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[Jenkem]

waiting for royalan, nepenthe, bronsonlee 

[benjipwns]

a lot of people suddenly ignoring the modpost, we feel you frothing

[Propagandhim]

All those fucking people that were banned for shit like, "I mostly believe him, but some things seem a little off"   

[benjipwns]

I don't want another ban, but If I had to bet, It's not looking good for Jussie telling the whole truth right now...

ffs mods, get this MAGA piece of shit

[Bore Expert]

are we ever going to find out exactly what kind of sandwich Jussie had?!?

Turns out it wasn’t a sandwich. It was actually an Empire Wrap.

 

[Cauliflower Of Love]

My job here is done.

[benjipwns]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/cnn-new-evidence-suggests-jussie-smollett-orchestrated-attack.100144/

please do not make duplicate threads, thanks, closed for further replies

[agrajag]

Honestly, the second he started refusing to let law enforcement pull information from his phone it was a bit suspicious. Youd expect someone in this situation to fully cooperate with police no matter your opinion about police in general

I actually don't to be honest.

I am starting to be suspicious that Incel attended the same ESOL classes/school for children with learning disabilities as Slayven

[benjipwns]

They locked the other thread.

[agrajag]

My job here is done.

So is Jussie's. At Empire. His acting job at Empire is done. /joke

[Jenkem]

All those fucking people that were banned for shit like, "I mostly believe him, but some things seem a little off"   

The truth of the situation doesn't negate the fact that they decided to spout violent rhetoric at a time when marginalized users were feeling the fear of being a POC in Trump's Amerikkka as a result of this story. I'm glad he wasn't assaulted and what he did was to bring relevant discussion to issues that POC face every day, but that does NOT make it OKAY to justify doubting him when we are better off after having necessary discussions.

[benjipwns]

I hope this isn't allowed to tun into people gloating that they never believed Jussie and they are somehow vindicated or in the right for not doing so.

[Leadbelly]

So much for the misreporting theory. It is starting to look like the Chicago reporters got everything pretty much spot on.

[benjipwns]

So, about those members who were banned for "victim blaming" when they questioned the original reporting...

RELISHING IN MODWHINING

[VomKriege]

I vow I'll find the MAGA hats aggressors, Seth Rich and Nicole Brown killers wherever they're all hiding together !

[benjipwns]

Victim blaming is victim blaming. At that point (and even up to now) there was still a lot up in the air and it was wrong of people to cast doubt. That's all there is to it.

[LurkinMerkin]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/jussie-smollett-breaks-his-silence-after-vicious-attack-im-ok.97099/page-20#post-17993616

 

[Uncle]

BTW with all the talk about how people were just frothing at the mouth and hungry to crow about how a black man hoaxed

The new signs that it might be a hoax started coming out at the bottom of page 3, and the police walked back the news' statements near the top of page 6

So people "crowed" (largely just surprised and saying "not a good look") for about 2 and a half pages

It is now 14 pages later and they've been reverse crowing since then and arguing about how terrible anyone who ever questioned it was

[benjipwns]

I truly, truly hope not.

[benjipwns]

So, about those members who were banned for "victim blaming" when they questioned the original reporting...

So fucking what? you're still victim blaming before you know all the facts and none of it was done in good faith anyway.

yessss

[Propagandhim]

Victim blaming is victim blaming. At that point (and even up to now) there was still a lot up in the air and it was wrong of people to cast doubt. That's all there is to it.

    No other explanation other than, "the people that were suspicious of all the info were racists.   We're still the good guys."

[agrajag]

So, about those members who were banned for "victim blaming" when they questioned the original reporting...

Fuck outta here with this shit.

 

[VomKriege]

I think you’re now doing the victim blaming...

They should be unbanned.

 

[Tripon]

[LurkinMerkin]

BTW with all the talk about how people were just frothing at the mouth and hungry to crow about how a black man hoaxed

The new signs that it might be a hoax started coming out at the bottom of page 3, and the police walked back the news' statements near the top of page 6

So people "crowed" (largely just surprised and saying "not a good look") for about 2 and a half pages

It is now 14 pages later and they've been reverse crowing since then and arguing about how terrible anyone who ever questioned it was

https://www.resetera.com/threads/cnn-new-evidence-suggests-jussie-smollett-orchestrated-attack.100144/#post-17993700

Fuck outta here with this shit.

EDIT: late 

[benjipwns]

So, about those members who were banned for "victim blaming" when they questioned the original reporting...

This is extremely crass and inappropriate.

So, about those members who were banned for "victim blaming" when they questioned the original reporting...

Fuck outta here with this shit.

So, about those members who were banned for "victim blaming" when they questioned the original reporting...

DELETE THIS

There's going to be a lot of this, people speaking up now that they feel it's safe to do so

[agrajag]

I vow I'll find the MAGA hats aggressors, Seth Rich and Nicole Brown killers wherever they're all hiding together !

Yikes letting Liam Neeson get away with his crimes scott free, not a good look.

[benjipwns]

So, about those members who were banned for "victim blaming" when they questioned the original reporting...

Add you to them.

So, about those members who were banned for "victim blaming" when they questioned the original reporting...

Let them stay banned and cry about it on r/KotakuInAction. Victim blaming before there were even any concrete details is ban-worthy, simple as that.

[Mr. Nobody]

When acting on emotion goes wrong

[benjipwns]

Take this more seriously and stop being ridiculous.

[benjipwns]

Nice try.

They weren't banned because they were wrong or right, they were banned for victim blaming when all we knew was Jussie had been attacked. Maybe not the best hill to die on.

i love you

[Propagandhim]

Victim blaming a non-victim when we all agreed that he was a victim unless you thought he wasn't, in which case you got banned for victim blaming.

 

[PogiJones]

I hope this isn't allowed to tun into people gloating that they never believed Jussie and they are somehow vindicated or in the right for not doing so.

Every one of his posts he is such a twat

[agrajag]

So, about those members who were banned for "victim blaming" when they questioned the original reporting...

This is extremely crass and inappropriate.

So, about those members who were banned for "victim blaming" when they questioned the original reporting...

Fuck outta here with this shit.

So, about those members who were banned for "victim blaming" when they questioned the original reporting...

DELETE THIS

There's going to be a lot of this, people speaking up now that they feel it's safe to do so

those fucking assholes, speaking up when it's safe to, the nerve of them!

[EightBitNate]

RedMercury is such a tool. How can you victimblame someone who isn’t a victim?

[Propagandhim]

RedMercury is such a tool. How can you victimblame someone who isn’t a victim?

It's like he was innocent at some point to them, and people doubting him at some point in the past did him wrong.  They're fucking mentally deranged.

[agrajag]

RedMercury is such a tool. How can you victimblame someone who isn’t a victim?

quiet you, the Era referendum will decide who is a victim or not. Why don't you sit your ass down and read the modpost

[benjipwns]

RedMercury is such a tool. How can you victimblame someone who isn’t a victim?

He was at the time.

[Leadbelly]

More to the point: I bet some of those bans were people being skeptical of the event rather than outright saying he was a liar.

[benjipwns]

But the doubt that was cast may very well have been correct in the first place. Why does questioning a situation have to turn into victim blaming?

Because a lot of the doubt was done in bad faith. One thing to question the story.

Another thing to act like something like this was impossible. Saying “but it’s Chicago!” “Who carries a noose in 2019” etc.

[Nintex]

 

[benjipwns]

Also inb4 "He wasn't that good of an actor/singer anyway"

Really hope not, but only a matter of time

[Propagandhim]

More to the point: I bet some of those bans were people being skeptical of the event rather than outright saying he was a liar.

I remember at least two people getting banned for saying something like, "I'm not saying he's lying, but I live around that area and it's really out of character for anyone to be like, "This is MAGA country." 


 

Oh well, back to KotakuInAction with those alt-right fucktards.

[benjipwns]

Is casting doubt victim blaming? The story seemed suspicious from the start. I’m asking as I did not witness the specific bans.

A gay black man being targeted for a hate crime is not rare.

I think it would be rare just by raw statistics?

[Leadbelly]

But the doubt that was cast may very well have been correct in the first place. Why does questioning a situation have to turn into victim blaming?

Because a lot of the doubt was done in bad faith. One thing to question the story.

Another thing to act like something like this was impossible. Saying “but it’s Chicago!” “Who carries a noose in 2019” etc.

Because the doubt was in bad faith.

[benjipwns]

Still like the original allegations, I’d rather wait for the final report.

[benjipwns]

If someone thinks this vindicates the alt-right, they probably weren't all that critical of the alt-right in the first place.

There is a guy in this thread right now asking for the mods to unban everyone that was previously banned as an apology for acting rashly.

It's just one guy here but that kind of thinking isn't uncommon.

wut

[EightBitNate]

Is casting doubt victim blaming? The story seemed suspicious from the start. I’m asking as I did not witness the specific bans.

A gay black man being targeted for a hate crime is not rare.

I think it would be rare just by raw statistics?

As a gay black man myself, I can say it happens everyday on my work commute (both ways)

[Cauliflower Of Love]

nah naha wait till i get my maga right


(is this racist?)

[benjipwns]

Is this the report of a hoax that was debunked by the police a couple days ago or a NEW report that the attack is a hoax.

you're a secret favorite

[agrajag]

Royalan has left the chat

[BisMarckie]

are we ever going to find out exactly what kind of sandwich Jussie had?!?

I bet it was tuna. People who eat tuna sandwiches are up to no good.

[benjipwns]

Ehhhh, most of the people who ate a ban or warning in that thread deserved it, and it wasn't for victim blaming, just popping off at the moderation staff.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Is casting doubt victim blaming? The story seemed suspicious from the start. I’m asking as I did not witness the specific bans.

A gay black man being targeted for a hate crime is not rare.

I think it would be rare just by raw statistics?

As a gay black man myself, I can say it happens everyday on my work commute (both ways)

How many of those have you orchestrated though?

[benjipwns]

People are free to think critically about whatever they want, there are no forum rules in your brain.

I have never seen anyone so dedicated to shutting down discussion on a discussion forum.

SAVAGE

[Nintex]

This is like a practice run for the Mueller report. 

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Ehhhh, most of the people who ate a ban or warning in that thread deserved it, and it wasn't for victim blaming, just popping off at the moderation staff.

let me guess, red merc?

[Propagandhim]

Fuck. I had been hearing bits about this for the last week or so, but thought it was just one of those baseless things that circles around the alt-right net enough times until it's just a base assumption. Vindicates them from a public opinion perspective if true.

Chicago news btfo

[Cauliflower Of Love]

This is like a practice run for the Mueller report. 

half of the people wont be there when the _____ /mueller report finally comes out.

[benjipwns]

my favorite part of these types of threads are how everyone drops the phony civility and starts throwing fire in personal beefs rather than anything to do with the actual topic