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« Reply #2160 on: August 26, 2019, 10:52:47 PM »
If we all agree that gender is a construct that hurts men and women and divides us in various ways, isn't it just better to yeet it?
esch inching closer and closer towards social category nominalism :money

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« Reply #2161 on: August 26, 2019, 11:22:47 PM »


The last third is pretty good

Her solution is sort of gender 'reformist', yeah? Why do we have to construct a notion of proper masc to replace the old one? I would suggest that there's danger in constructing a new correct, nontoxic masculinity in the place of a blatantly shit one. If we all agree that gender is a construct that hurts men and women and divides us in various ways, isn't it just better to yeet it?

Very :hitler for someone who clearly leans toward a libsoc mentality to say the left needs to tell those lost boys what to be and do. Sounds very authoritarian, no thanks Tatyana Tankikova.


She has mentioned that she doesn't believe that getting rid of gender is an achievable thing in previous videos. 

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« Reply #2163 on: August 27, 2019, 12:54:12 AM »
why is Boxxy talking about pedophiles
She's pretty much just a social commentator now, heard a show of hers once and she sounded dumb, then heard another and she sounded alright so i've been checking in on and off.

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« Reply #2164 on: August 27, 2019, 12:57:48 AM »
why is Boxxy talking about pedophiles
She's pretty much just a social commentator now, heard a show of hers once and she sounded dumb, then heard another and she sounded alright so i've been checking in on and off.

lol it's not Boxxy, but they look very much alike, hence my joke

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« Reply #2165 on: August 27, 2019, 12:58:45 AM »
why is Boxxy talking about pedophiles
She's pretty much just a social commentator now, heard a show of hers once and she sounded dumb, then heard another and she sounded alright so i've been checking in on and off.

Is she still dating that dude that uses some kind of knight armor as his avatar? Maybe "Knight" was even part of his name.

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« Reply #2166 on: August 27, 2019, 01:04:29 AM »
why is Boxxy talking about pedophiles
She's pretty much just a social commentator now, heard a show of hers once and she sounded dumb, then heard another and she sounded alright so i've been checking in on and off.

Is she still dating that dude that uses some kind of knight armor as his avatar? Maybe "Knight" was even part of his name.

armored skeptic  :lol

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« Reply #2167 on: August 27, 2019, 01:05:58 AM »
The top google link to that is rationalwiki.org LOL

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« Reply #2168 on: August 27, 2019, 01:06:07 AM »
yeah she's still dating that weirdo, it's weird cause she's pretty left leaning and he's a goober lmao, also I know it's not boxxy, I dunno why i answered that way but i assumed you meant why she isnt doing videos like her old ones  :brain

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« Reply #2169 on: August 27, 2019, 11:18:39 AM »
I don't really know much of Ngo or Quillette so can someone fill me in a little bit? He is/was a journalist for that publication and decided to quit because some far right group was gonna protect him (from what? I know he got roughed up a little in Portland. Crying that those "darn Antifas huwt lil ol me") and he was gonna protect a far right group how? By virtue of his writing?

Or did he get fired by Quillette? So we are laughing at him for not even having a home on a crappy conservative publication?
https://www.portlandmercury.com/blogtown/2019/08/26/27039560/undercover-in-patriot-prayer-insights-from-a-vancouver-democrat-whos-been-working-against-the-far-right-group-from-the-inside

ngo was another common conservative grifter fraud that tried to make right wing violence look like left wing violence.

My favorite part of the article is how the only vetting these right wing groups do is that you say you hate the left:lol
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« Reply #2170 on: August 27, 2019, 12:14:40 PM »
yeah she's still dating that weirdo, it's weird cause she's pretty left leaning and he's a goober lmao, also I know it's not boxxy, I dunno why i answered that way but i assumed you meant why she isnt doing videos like her old ones  :brain
When you said you don't know who this person is, I assumed you meant her, not the dude. :lol

Skimming her Rationalwiki page makes her look like an opportunistic grifter.

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« Reply #2171 on: August 27, 2019, 09:55:00 PM »
lmao
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« Reply #2172 on: August 27, 2019, 09:55:37 PM »
this is the second time in a week I'm baffled at a website having employees to dismiss, first Daily Kos, now Quillette

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« Reply #2174 on: August 28, 2019, 12:04:17 AM »
I AM the most influential modern philosopher. Walt Disney.


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« Reply #2176 on: August 28, 2019, 01:21:51 AM »

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« Reply #2177 on: August 28, 2019, 01:28:51 AM »
The owner talking about how Bernie "lost his vote" when he'd already donated a couple thousand dollars to Kamala Harris.

C'mon man.
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« Reply #2178 on: August 28, 2019, 04:22:21 AM »
uh...what's the issue momo?

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« Reply #2179 on: August 28, 2019, 04:27:58 AM »
uh...what's the issue momo?
Couple of things:

- I dont listen to David Pakman to get more orange man bad, he's generally pretty good at being principled. Adding Donald Trump into that is just unnecessary orange man bad. The story is about an asshole owner and an alleged asshole Bernie.

- No one in the media I have heard has ever claimed Trump is 'good' as this seems to imply - 'Trump sexually assaulted a dozen women, but Bernie is bad' at best people who defend him (I dont listen to far right commentators) are moderates who say he isnt as bad as the general media claims.

- 'Trump sexually assaulted a dozen women' literally fake news.

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« Reply #2180 on: August 28, 2019, 05:50:12 AM »

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« Reply #2181 on: August 28, 2019, 05:54:15 AM »
https://twitter.com/JustinWhang/status/1166518657452781569

okay enough politweets for me for today :dead

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« Reply #2182 on: August 28, 2019, 12:53:11 PM »
- 'Trump sexually assaulted a dozen women' literally fake news.

p sure well over a dozen women have accused him of some degree of sexual assault, from groping to rape

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« Reply #2183 on: August 28, 2019, 02:42:01 PM »
https://twitter.com/XasthurWithin/status/1163441859215147008

Things I dont expect to hear from Fox :dead

the libs are whipping people into a frenzy of racial fear, says Fox News anchor

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« Reply #2184 on: August 28, 2019, 03:03:39 PM »
- No one in the media I have heard has ever claimed Trump is 'good' as this seems to imply - 'Trump sexually assaulted a dozen women, but Bernie is bad' at best people who defend him (I dont listen to far right commentators) are moderates who say he isnt as bad as the general media claims.
He is replying to Sean Hannity. Fair implication, I think. And wide swathes of the US public do listen to far right commentators.

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« Reply #2185 on: August 28, 2019, 04:59:49 PM »
I've only heard the name but never seen any of his content, but again, I'm a listener of david pakman and can't give a fuck who he's responding to, I only care about what he's saying as it's someone I hold in high regard.

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« Reply #2186 on: August 28, 2019, 05:18:30 PM »
Feels like you were out of your element on this one, Momo.
not really, I care about what I care about, which is mostly people I listen to playing it as straight as possible. Pakman is a smart bloke and I like what he has to say on a variety of topics, but I really can't stand culture war shit.

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« Reply #2187 on: August 28, 2019, 05:24:49 PM »
coward momo  ::)

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« Reply #2188 on: August 28, 2019, 10:11:09 PM »
"i can't stand this culture war shit" - constantly engages in culture war shit   ::)

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« Reply #2189 on: August 28, 2019, 10:20:38 PM »
exactly. it's an annoying, common stance for apologist types like momo to take. you aren't above the muck. you're fucking bathing in it.
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« Reply #2190 on: August 28, 2019, 10:27:24 PM »
untrue, I am completely above it, unlike my opponents


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« Reply #2192 on: August 28, 2019, 10:39:43 PM »
uh...what's the issue momo?
Couple of things:

- I dont listen to David Pakman to get more orange man bad, he's generally pretty good at being principled. Adding Donald Trump into that is just unnecessary orange man bad. The story is about an asshole owner and an alleged asshole Bernie.

- No one in the media I have heard has ever claimed Trump is 'good' as this seems to imply - 'Trump sexually assaulted a dozen women, but Bernie is bad' at best people who defend him (I dont listen to far right commentators) are moderates who say he isnt as bad as the general media claims.

- 'Trump sexually assaulted a dozen women' literally fake news.

dude literally every single thing here is wrong lol

also, using the 'orange man bad' meme? something tells me you don't hate culture war stuff as much as you let on  :doge

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« Reply #2193 on: August 28, 2019, 10:41:25 PM »
Bit of a side track but culture war as a term is such a broad, vague and nebulous one that I feel like it could literally apply to any and all arguments. So when is something not a "culture war"?

i'm of the opinion that such a thing is literally impossible.

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« Reply #2195 on: August 28, 2019, 11:41:21 PM »
You fucks sure like making assumptions about people :lol

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« Reply #2196 on: August 28, 2019, 11:45:55 PM »
It's a hobby :shrug

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« Reply #2197 on: August 29, 2019, 02:39:43 AM »
Feels like you were out of your element on this one, Momo.
not really, I care about what I care about, which is mostly people I listen to playing it as straight as possible. Pakman is a smart bloke and I like what he has to say on a variety of topics, but I really can't stand culture war shit.

aight but you made a couple factual claims that were just straight up wrong and have been corrected in the thread and you haven't owned up to

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« Reply #2198 on: August 29, 2019, 03:15:22 AM »
they arent wrong though, I chose not to engage with you because I cant be arsed.

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« Reply #2199 on: August 29, 2019, 03:27:36 AM »
they arent wrong though, I chose not to engage with you because I cant be arsed.

homie this is your fourth reply since getting corrected nobody's buying this shit

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« Reply #2200 on: August 29, 2019, 03:34:43 AM »
I chose not to engage with you, galaxy brain, also Oblivion because he randomly accused me of stuff when he could have just asked.

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« Reply #2201 on: August 29, 2019, 03:39:58 AM »
they arent wrong though, I chose not to engage with you because I cant be arsed.

homie this is your fourth reply since getting corrected nobody's buying this shit
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« Reply #2202 on: August 29, 2019, 04:11:49 AM »
I chose not to engage with you, galaxy brain, also Oblivion because he randomly accused me of stuff when he could have just asked.

you're engaging with me now

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« Reply #2203 on: August 29, 2019, 04:17:29 AM »
I chose not to engage with you, galaxy brain, also Oblivion because he randomly accused me of stuff when he could have just asked.

you're engaging with me now
It's a different day my being nice quota reset :idont

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« Reply #2204 on: August 29, 2019, 04:36:46 AM »
 :lol
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« Reply #2205 on: August 29, 2019, 05:12:26 AM »
Forget that Momo. My question was genuine: what would you say isn't "culture war"? Cause I think you have a different way of looking at it.
There's 4 or 5 main components of what I see as culture war products that annoy me, one much more so than others.
 
1) politicization of entertainment, be it comedy or games or comics or whatever. It's infuriating having to deal with people REEEEing that Dave Chapelle made a joke and it's also infuriating that people rally against things like America Chavez getting a Marvel TV show. Who cares, fuck off both camps, dont watch it.
2) Trump derangement syndrome, making everything about Trump (like reverse thanks Obama) and or being opposed to anything he does even when good because hey it's Trump.
3) News commentators (thing i care about most), misrepresentation of your opponents and facts so you can get a dunk on the libs/conservatives/MCU/DC, I care mostly about this because it impacts conversations I have with others as you have to first wade through the garbage to get to an actual conversation and mostly by then everyone's checked out of the topic. Dont care if people here do it because it's just fun and jokes, I do care when it's Pakman.

If you want to know more about my personal politics ask, but in general I'm liberal with a tinge of libertarian when it comes to government our government is absolutely worthless and I want them to fuck off. I dont talk about politics too often because you're all Americans and it's waaay to different from here, but it's hard to avoid since american culture dominates every English speaking talking space on the internet.

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« Reply #2206 on: August 29, 2019, 05:13:14 AM »
I forgot what the other thing was i wanted to mention in the time i went to make coffee  :doge :brain

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« Reply #2207 on: August 29, 2019, 05:32:58 AM »
momo doesn't like arguments that are obviously aligned on traditional left-right divides and thinks you can get more productive conversation by avoiding them. now I'm kindasorta sympathetic to that instinct cause obviously most partisan argumentation is just autopilot regurgitating of the same talking points, HOWEVER...

tryna solve this problem through online autodidacticism and preemptively dismissing any ideas that seem too partisan just creates more problems than it solves. you're not only refusing to consider a whole host of ideas, you're not even considering how those viewpoints became so widely held, and what cultural trends (or, ahem, material conditions) brought us to this point.

plus giving a clean slate means sabotaging your bullshit detector. "jordan peterson is a reactionary sexist" maybe feels reductive or too much like a jezebel post for comfort, but it also has the benefit of being true, immediately obvious, and predictive of all his statements about sex and gender.

that reminds me I need to yell at shosta more for that. I mean goddam.

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« Reply #2208 on: August 29, 2019, 05:37:44 AM »
tbh I really wanna know how the long list of accusations against trump for sexual assault are "fake news."

cause if your self-conception is as someone who plays it straight, doesn't tolerate mischaracterizations of shit, then it behooves you to back up a statement like that. unless you just want the veneer of above-the-fray objectivity without backing it up.

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« Reply #2209 on: August 29, 2019, 05:38:20 AM »
I'm exposed to both far-left and alt-light or whatever they are calling themselves now it's unavoidable, it seeps everywhere, ito anime boards, tv boards, whatever you like, it's there and unavoidable, so i'm aware of what either side is saying. When I want to listen to something deeper about a topic however, I try not to seek these people out, if I'm giving up my time I could have spent going over the nudes shosta sent me again to listen to a guy, I'd rather he be straight(not that way :doge). 

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« Reply #2210 on: August 29, 2019, 05:40:42 AM »
tbh I really wanna know how the long list of accusations against trump for sexual assault are "fake news."
David Pakman didn't present them as accusations and this goes into what im saying about people misrepresenting things to get a dunk. I get twitter isnt a medium that allows you to be verbose, however he chose not to keep it in his pants when he easily could have or just tweeted about how dumb the Bernie thing is, sans Trump.

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« Reply #2211 on: August 29, 2019, 05:47:31 AM »
I would still like to know what doesn't count as culture wars to you?
Do you mean in a political sense? News? The culture wars is pretty much limited to the alliance of anti-intersectional-fems/conservatives/centrists/trumpeters against intersectional-fems/further-leftist/ant-trumpers fighting each other, the issue is it spans waay too many topics. I'm not convinced the first group of people even like each other tbh :lol

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« Reply #2212 on: August 29, 2019, 05:52:22 AM »
In that specific context Sean Hannity is a well know Trump dick rider, and he was going at Bernie for being a candidate that could face Trump. So it's not exactly shocking that trump would be brought there.

I do get what you mean by your earlier posts. Be it anime or comics you'd like to discuss something without it being a political debate, hell I relate to that fully. Especially when it's full on this is either SJW or Alt-right when it doesn't have to be. But my argument with you on that very example is that it was political to the US from the jump, so any reply was going to be that.
It doesn't matter to me who it is. I'm not trying to remove the context, I'm saying despite the context he can be better, I expect him to be better and I want him to be better as this isnt why im a listener. Tbh he doesnt do this really in podcast/interview form and yesterday was one of the 5 days a year i chose to open twitter.

I dont mind him being political, he was replying to a politically charged guy about a politician, being political isnt the issue, trying to get a dunk by doing 2 and 3 on my list is my issue.


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« Reply #2213 on: August 29, 2019, 06:43:37 AM »
 
1) politicization of entertainment, be it comedy or games or comics or whatever. It's infuriating having to deal with people REEEEing that Dave Chapelle made a joke and it's also infuriating that people rally against things like America Chavez getting a Marvel TV show. Who cares, fuck off both camps, dont watch it.
2) Trump derangement syndrome, making everything about Trump (like reverse thanks Obama) and or being opposed to anything he does even when good because hey it's Trump.
3) News commentators (thing i care about most), misrepresentation of your opponents and facts so you can get a dunk on the libs/conservatives/MCU/DC, I care mostly about this because it impacts conversations I have with others as you have to first wade through the garbage to get to an actual conversation and mostly by then everyone's checked out of the topic. Dont care if people here do it because it's just fun and jokes, I do care when it's Pakman.
I still don't see how 2) applies in this case. Sean Hannity is a prominent Fox News host who has defended Trump in the past (Trump tacitly admitted to expecting support from them, cause he was upset they criticised him for a change). Bringing up his double standards when he goes after Sanders for something minor is perfectly valid. Should he have held off because Trump is otherwise being bashed unfairly just to 'balance' the scales?
I'm calling reflexive anti-cirklejerk. I've been there, cause I don't like zealotry either.
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« Reply #2214 on: August 29, 2019, 06:57:41 AM »
reflexive anti-cirklejerk

well shit I wrote a whole damn carepost and Rufus just dinner for ones it

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« Reply #2215 on: August 29, 2019, 07:18:33 AM »
 
1) politicization of entertainment, be it comedy or games or comics or whatever. It's infuriating having to deal with people REEEEing that Dave Chapelle made a joke and it's also infuriating that people rally against things like America Chavez getting a Marvel TV show. Who cares, fuck off both camps, dont watch it.
2) Trump derangement syndrome, making everything about Trump (like reverse thanks Obama) and or being opposed to anything he does even when good because hey it's Trump.
3) News commentators (thing i care about most), misrepresentation of your opponents and facts so you can get a dunk on the libs/conservatives/MCU/DC, I care mostly about this because it impacts conversations I have with others as you have to first wade through the garbage to get to an actual conversation and mostly by then everyone's checked out of the topic. Dont care if people here do it because it's just fun and jokes, I do care when it's Pakman.
I still don't see how 2) applies in this case. Sean Hannity is a prominent Fox News host who has defended Trump in the past (Trump tacitly admitted to expecting support from them, cause he was upset they criticised him for a change). Bringing up his double standards when he goes after Sanders for something minor is perfectly valid. Should he have held off because Trump is otherwise being bashed unfairly just to 'balance' the scales?
I'm calling reflexive anti-cirklejerk. I've been there, cause I don't like zealotry either.
Anti-circlejerk against a guy i like in favor of a guy i dislike. You can call whatever you want my dude.

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« Reply #2216 on: August 29, 2019, 11:25:39 AM »
Alright Benji, you're not even being slick anymore

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« Reply #2217 on: August 29, 2019, 04:15:40 PM »
Bit of a side track but culture war as a term is such a broad, vague and nebulous one that I feel like it could literally apply to any and all arguments. So when is something not a "culture war"?
sloppy prima facie take: ’culture’ in general is a black box in which to throw whatever doesn’t fit/can’t be accounted for. it’s an explanation for when you don’t actually have an explanation

fake edit: the concept behind the term ‘culture’ can obviously be fleshed out by whoever’s using it. but imo the resulting definition is always too narrow for the kind of work we expect the colloquial term ‘culture’ to perform

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« Reply #2218 on: August 29, 2019, 04:20:17 PM »
:lol


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« Reply #2219 on: August 29, 2019, 11:34:54 PM »
I chose not to engage with you, galaxy brain, also Oblivion because he randomly accused me of stuff when he could have just asked.

whoa, whoa WHOA

let's go back to what i ACTUALLY said:


uh...what's the issue momo?

Couple of things:

- I dont listen to David Pakman to get more orange man bad, he's generally pretty good at being principled. Adding Donald Trump into that is just unnecessary orange man bad. The story is about an asshole owner and an alleged asshole Bernie.

- No one in the media I have heard has ever claimed Trump is 'good' as this seems to imply - 'Trump sexually assaulted a dozen women, but Bernie is bad' at best people who defend him (I dont listen to far right commentators) are moderates who say he isnt as bad as the general media claims.

- 'Trump sexually assaulted a dozen women' literally fake news.
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dude literally every single thing here is wrong lol

also, using the 'orange man bad' meme? something tells me you don't hate culture war stuff as much as you let on  :doge

1. i said your previous statements were incorrect
2. i said you saying certain things led to certain assumptions being made

and these (or at least the latter) were bad enough that you felt the need to blow up at me? come on, son!

what's funny is that i actually sorta like ya, momo. and i've always been pretty civil to ya as far as i can recall. so i don't appreciate you assuming things about me cause of me assuming things about you! :punch
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