Author Topic: Laissez-faire Politics Thread - Praxis? I didn't play Deus Ex, sorry. (Read 218880 times)

BisMarckie's Hegel 2020 Project status update: I have bought Encyclopedia of the Philosophical Sciences and held the books in my hands once by unpacking them. Felt pretty smart doing that tbh.

jakefromstatefarm · « **Reply #1573 on:** February 20, 2020, 09:40:34 PM »

guys, going through kant and hegel is cool and fine, but you don’t have to read everyone in the canon^TM. best piece of advice someone can give you is don’t let reading get in the way of things you actually want to read. you’ll better understand marx, or whoever, just by reading marx.

BisMarckie · « **Reply #1574 on:** February 20, 2020, 09:47:31 PM »

My favorite professor was a huge Hegel stan, he unironically had the position that all philosophy ended with Hegel.

I thought to myself: Well if he is that good, I'll have to read his magnum opus one day.

But here I am shitposting on a neogaf splinter forum.

El Babua · « **Reply #1575 on:** February 20, 2020, 09:56:00 PM »

Honestly a better use of your time

jakefromstatefarm · « **Reply #1576 on:** February 20, 2020, 10:12:46 PM »

Quote from: Esch on February 20, 2020, 09:56:33 PM

dialectics

part of what you find out is that this is just a giant red herring getting in the way of actually understanding anything. not in the sense that ‘it’ is bullshit, but in the sense that ‘it’ depends entirely on who’s talking and how theyre using it.

benjipwns · « **Reply #1577 on:** February 20, 2020, 10:25:18 PM »

Stolen from NeoGAF.com during the 504 Gateway Error Period: https://www.idrlabs.com/communism/test.php

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The IDRlabs Communist Beliefs Test (IDR-CBT©) was developed by IDRlabs International. The IDR-CBT is based on principles developed by notable communists such as Marx and Engels. The IDR-CBT is not associated with any specific researchers in the fields of political psychology or sociology, or any affiliated research institutions.

The IDRlabs Communist Beliefs Test was informed by classic works of literature and the historical foundations of Marxist communism to create this free online test. As a political ideology, proponents of communism believe that society’s resources should be communally shared, while social classes should be eliminated. IDRlabs International and the present IDRlabs Communist Beliefs Test are independent from any researchers who have produced work in the area of communism or any such related topics.

The current test was created by professionals certified in the delivery and scoring of numerous psychological measures, who have worked professionally in various fields of psychology including social psychology, political psychology, and personality testing.

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BisMarckie · « **Reply #1578 on:** February 20, 2020, 10:35:43 PM »

33 %

higher than benji, which means he should be the first in the gulag after the revolution, not me.

jakefromstatefarm · « **Reply #1579 on:** February 20, 2020, 10:39:43 PM »

Quote from: Esch on February 20, 2020, 10:20:18 PM

I just want to read hegel for hegel.

this is a good look. one of the biggest things i’m alluding to above is that virtually everyone points to hegel when they need to explain ‘dialectics’ and it turns out that that’s just an awful way of understanding what’s going on in the phenomenology or the rest of his system. there’s a kernel of truth to it, but the term brings too much osmotic baggage with it, to the point where it’s better to just scrap it and start with a clean sheet

benjipwns · « **Reply #1580 on:** February 20, 2020, 10:40:13 PM »

A 24%er is someone who can help implement land and copyright reform while not being a threat to leadership, a 33%er sounds more like someone who will make doctrinal disputes and try to challenge centralism.

OnlyRegret · « **Reply #1581 on:** February 20, 2020, 10:44:56 PM »

35%

what's the labour camp cutoff?

Tripon · « **Reply #1582 on:** February 21, 2020, 01:11:55 AM »

https://twitter.com/ohplease_DEAR/status/1230721396038201344

team filler · « **Reply #1583 on:** February 21, 2020, 02:57:06 PM »

Quote from: jakefromstatefarm on February 20, 2020, 09:40:34 PM

(Image removed from quote.) guys, going through kant and hegel is cool and fine, but you don’t have to read everyone in the canon^TM. best piece of advice someone can give you is don’t let reading get in the way of things you actually want to read. you’ll better understand marx, or whoever, just by reading marx.

https://twitter.com/LassPeaches/status/1230942720975233024

OnlyRegret · « **Reply #1584 on:** February 21, 2020, 02:59:18 PM »

prolific incel Jake will disregard that due to feminine pronouns

team filler · « **Reply #1585 on:** February 21, 2020, 05:09:15 PM »

https://twitter.com/josiahsilas/status/1230872204335775745

curly · « **Reply #1586 on:** February 21, 2020, 05:57:24 PM »

Quote from: benjipwns on February 20, 2020, 10:25:18 PM

Stolen from NeoGAF.com during the 504 Gateway Error Period: https://www.idrlabs.com/communism/test.php
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The IDRlabs Communist Beliefs Test (IDR-CBT©) was developed by IDRlabs International. The IDR-CBT is based on principles developed by notable communists such as Marx and Engels. The IDR-CBT is not associated with any specific researchers in the fields of political psychology or sociology, or any affiliated research institutions.

The IDRlabs Communist Beliefs Test was informed by classic works of literature and the historical foundations of Marxist communism to create this free online test. As a political ideology, proponents of communism believe that society’s resources should be communally shared, while social classes should be eliminated. IDRlabs International and the present IDRlabs Communist Beliefs Test are independent from any researchers who have produced work in the area of communism or any such related topics.

The current test was created by professionals certified in the delivery and scoring of numerous psychological measures, who have worked professionally in various fields of psychology including social psychology, political psychology, and personality testing.

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This quiz might be even worse than the political compass one

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64%

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I'm a dirty democratic socialist

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OnlyRegret · « **Reply #1587 on:** February 22, 2020, 12:08:06 AM »

browsing elsewhere on idrlabs
https://www.idrlabs.com/villain/test.php

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The 20 murderous villains are: Heinrich Himmler, Joseph Goebbels, Hermann Goering, Adolf Hitler, Albert Speer, Karl Doenitz, Rudolf Hess, Joachim von Ribbentrop, Joseph Stalin, Vladimir Putin, Vladimir Lenin, Mao Zedong, Che Guevara, Ulrike Meinhof, Osama bin Laden, Ruhollah Khomeini, Saddam Hussein, Benito Mussolini, Idi Amin, and Muammar Gaddafi.

benjipwns · « **Reply #1588 on:** February 22, 2020, 11:47:06 AM »

Quote from: OnlyRegret on February 22, 2020, 12:08:06 AM

browsing elsewhere on idrlabs
https://www.idrlabs.com/villain/test.php

They have two separate pyschopath tests.

Also:
https://www.idrlabs.com/libertarian/test.php

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You are 89% Libertarian, which makes you a Hardcore Libertarian.
Watch out, we've got a badass over here.

benjipwns · « **Reply #1589 on:** February 22, 2020, 11:57:57 AM »

Of course not. How do you know that's not the 11% I missed!!!!!!! Seriously, I didn't get 100%! Not at all! 11 as a percentage or age is much too small!

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #1590 on:** February 22, 2020, 12:00:01 PM »

Quote from: benjipwns on February 22, 2020, 11:47:06 AM

Quote from: OnlyRegret on February 22, 2020, 12:08:06 AM
browsing elsewhere on idrlabs
https://www.idrlabs.com/villain/test.php
They have two separate pyschopath tests.

Also:
https://www.idrlabs.com/libertarian/test.php
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You are 89% Libertarian, which makes you a Hardcore Libertarian.
Watch out, we've got a badass over here.

When a personality test is secretly a direct attack against you.

benjipwns · « **Reply #1591 on:** February 22, 2020, 12:05:53 PM »

https://www.idrlabs.com/political-left-right/test.php

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Left / Right Test
Based on the scientific work of John R. Hibbing, Kevin B. Smith and John R. Alford, this test aims to guess your political orientation based on your lifestyle.

I got 75% left-wing, this is why I can hide in plain sight despite being a badass.

BisMarckie · « **Reply #1592 on:** February 22, 2020, 12:11:07 PM »

Hang on, what do purple carrots or reading about sports tell me about my political leaning?
Am I already on an anticommunist watch list?

BisMarckie · « **Reply #1593 on:** February 22, 2020, 12:14:48 PM »

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Philosophical discussions are mostly:

Boring
Fun
Pointless

Where is the ‚all of the above‘ option?

benjipwns · « **Reply #1594 on:** February 22, 2020, 12:15:17 PM »

Stro out here trying to smear me when he was a CENTRIST the whole time.

BisMarckie · « **Reply #1595 on:** February 22, 2020, 12:17:40 PM »

It was the arugula, wasn‘t it?

Tripon · « **Reply #1596 on:** February 22, 2020, 12:24:21 PM »

Fuck, this proves that I'm Joe Rogan.

nachobro · « **Reply #1597 on:** February 22, 2020, 12:25:56 PM »

guess i have to vote for trump daddy over berndawg now $:-\$

i said that i like arugala AND i'd try the purple carrots and i still end up with this

benjipwns · « **Reply #1598 on:** February 22, 2020, 12:27:42 PM »

centrists to the left of me, centrists to the right of me

Mandark · « **Reply #1599 on:** February 22, 2020, 12:28:29 PM »

The #1 question for discerning political stances from ostensibly non-political questions would be "Agree or disagree: college basketball is more entertaining to watch than the NBA because of the teamwork and fundamentals."

benjipwns · « **Reply #1600 on:** February 22, 2020, 12:29:55 PM »

it's because you guys are all thinking of this and picking country music:

BisMarckie · « **Reply #1601 on:** February 22, 2020, 12:31:39 PM »

Quote from: Mandark on February 22, 2020, 12:28:29 PM

The #1 question for discerning political stances from ostensibly non-political questions would be "Agree or disagree: college basketball is more entertaining to watch than the NBA because of the teamwork and fundamentals."

What if I enjoy college hoops more because the crowds are more into it?

Third way wins again

OnlyRegret · « **Reply #1602 on:** February 22, 2020, 03:07:00 PM »

Quote from: benjipwns on February 22, 2020, 12:05:53 PM

https://www.idrlabs.com/political-left-right/test.php
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Left / Right Test
Based on the scientific work of John R. Hibbing, Kevin B. Smith and John R. Alford, this test aims to guess your political orientation based on your lifestyle.
I got 75% left-wing, this is why I can hide in plain sight despite being a badass.

Solidly right wing
Guess we're deporting purple carrots and invading arugula

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You are 0% Libertarian, which makes you Not Libertarian.

In your case it is safe to say that you are *not* a libertarian. Whether because you prefer a greater degree of social discipline or economic regulation (or possibly both), you probably tend to find large swatches of the libertarian program to be far-fetched, extremist, and possibly even downright repulsive. If you are not the argumentative type, you had best stay clear of libertarians - they have a reputation for being insufferable in an argument.

Sounds good to me, man.

toku · « **Reply #1603 on:** February 22, 2020, 06:12:51 PM »

https://twitter.com/hellakyra/status/1230999706785980419

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #1604 on:** February 22, 2020, 08:26:17 PM »

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #1605 on:** February 22, 2020, 08:32:32 PM »

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You are 0% Libertarian, which makes you Not Libertarian.

In your case it is safe to say that you are *not* a libertarian. Whether because you prefer a greater degree of social discipline or economic regulation (or possibly both), you probably tend to find large swatches of the libertarian program to be far-fetched, extremist, and possibly even downright repulsive. If you are not the argumentative type, you had best stay clear of libertarians - they have a reputation for being insufferable in an argument.

shosta · « **Reply #1606 on:** February 23, 2020, 01:37:28 AM »

OnlyRegret · « **Reply #1607 on:** February 23, 2020, 01:48:26 AM »

Just work a bit harder bro, and you can be just like O'Leary!
Just tug the bootstraps more than your avocado toast dick

OnlyRegret · « **Reply #1608 on:** February 23, 2020, 01:56:37 AM »

Well, judging from family, on the topic of happiness. There'd be hardships for sure but I think the strong sense of community, belonging, and peers makes a big difference. That and life-long adversity shapes you as a person differently. So that I, the second-gen, am much more squishier than older relatives. Some lame, but rather mundane and stable employment after growing up in real hardship must seem a breeze.

OnlyRegret · « **Reply #1609 on:** February 23, 2020, 02:58:21 PM »

why you hiding your care posts punkass

team filler · « **Reply #1610 on:** February 23, 2020, 03:28:31 PM »

https://twitter.com/SleepyDjango/status/1231669007100436480

shosta · « **Reply #1611 on:** February 23, 2020, 08:09:56 PM »

Quote from: shosta on February 15, 2020, 08:20:51 PM

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How long do you guys think she lasts at the times

pushing it

benjipwns · « **Reply #1612 on:** February 23, 2020, 08:58:10 PM »

Speaking of those online tests, anybody ever made one? I tried to use a site that you could make them on to make a Star Trek one ages ago and it had the worst UI so I gave up.

Probably is just a simple thing to code yourself.

shosta · « **Reply #1613 on:** February 23, 2020, 09:02:38 PM »

what kind of test would you make

BisMarckie · « **Reply #1614 on:** February 23, 2020, 09:02:55 PM »

Working on: Which Bore mod are you?
Currently still in development.

Tripon · « **Reply #1615 on:** February 23, 2020, 09:07:48 PM »

Quote from: BisMarckie on February 23, 2020, 09:02:55 PM

Working on: Which Bore mod are you?
Currently still in development.

Where will you post your hog?

benjipwns · « **Reply #1616 on:** February 23, 2020, 09:13:42 PM »

No matter what I really want to use it for, I promise to make a TRUE Political Compass test with lots of serious well-worded questions but in reality all the results are just anarchist, MODERATE CENTRIST, communist or fascist.

OnlyRegret · « **Reply #1617 on:** February 23, 2020, 10:00:40 PM »

I'm ashamed I ever took political tests seriously.
Teenage girls taking those Buzzfeed-tier quizzes was something I looked down upon but poli-quizzes are on a much lower level since you get overly invested in it :'(

shosta · « **Reply #1618 on:** February 24, 2020, 02:46:42 PM »

I've been getting into Ralph Miliband (pls don't call me a reformist) and when I found out who his son was...

If you're a socialist please don't ever have children. They will only disappoint you and develop serious eating disorders:

benjipwns · « **Reply #1619 on:** February 24, 2020, 05:21:38 PM »

There's a whole Wikipedia page for that photo: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Miliband_bacon_sandwich_photograph

News:

Author Topic: Laissez-faire Politics Thread - Praxis? I didn't play Deus Ex, sorry. (Read 218880 times)