Author Topic: Laissez-faire Politics Thread - Praxis? I didn't play Deus Ex, sorry. (Read 294062 times)

jakefromstatefarm · « **Reply #1260 on:** February 10, 2020, 11:53:24 PM »

if your points just that the chapos arent good brainthinkers then i think we’re all in agreement

as much of an autist as i wanna be about plebs getting the s word wrong, de-chudifying america after a century+ of firm-as-fiefdom agitprop is a little more important right now than capital-t Theory

OnlyRegret · « **Reply #1261 on:** February 12, 2020, 12:17:30 AM »

smugness of internet lefties reminded me of this

curly · « **Reply #1262 on:** February 12, 2020, 04:10:54 PM »

Quote from: jakefromstatefarm on February 10, 2020, 11:53:24 PM

if your points just that the chapos arent good brainthinkers then i think we’re all in agreement

as much of an autist as i wanna be about plebs getting the s word wrong, de-chudifying america after a century+ of firm-as-fiefdom agitprop is a little more important right now than capital-t Theory

Didn't see shosta's post but piggybacking off this a bit I've been somewhat surprised by the degree to which Sandersismo has become hegemonic on the left in my mostly anecdotal experience, drawing in support from both ideologically adjacent wings: people who are generally left but were turned off in 2016 by the evangelical tone of his supporters and weren't primed to break with more orthodox Democratic politics yet and radicals who were skeptical of voting at all and have become more open to a hybrid electoral/direct action approach. I expected more discord tbh. The aggrandizing tendencies of the Chapos and the Jacobin set of his supporters are definitely obnoxious (Bernie or we're all doomed!) but easier to overlook now that the primary is underway and there's something to distract the left's interest from navel-gazing over the flaws of its celebrities.

Mandark · « **Reply #1263 on:** February 12, 2020, 04:46:16 PM »

Quote from: curly on February 12, 2020, 04:10:54 PM

now that the primary is underway and there's something to distract the left's interest from navel-gazing over the flaws of its celebrities.

Roughly same dynamic as moving from primaries to general election for normal party politics, isn't it? Hating on Mayor Pete smooths over the differences, the way hating on Trump will among casual Dems.

curly · « **Reply #1264 on:** February 12, 2020, 04:54:14 PM »

Pretty much

benjipwns · « **Reply #1265 on:** February 13, 2020, 10:12:19 PM »

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when's the last time you read the Illiad or the Odyssey in the original Homeric Greek? When's the last time you had a student come to your office at the University of Iowa to cry and express her doubt that she had what it took to complete your course?

newsfeed

team filler · « **Reply #1266 on:** February 14, 2020, 02:29:41 PM »

https://twitter.com/Raiders/status/1220136133339811840

MD2020!

OnlyRegret · « **Reply #1267 on:** February 14, 2020, 07:25:39 PM »

centrists, the true final boss

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/05/23/opinion/international-world/centrists-democracy.html

benjipwns · « **Reply #1268 on:** February 15, 2020, 01:52:17 AM »

benjipwns · « **Reply #1269 on:** February 15, 2020, 01:58:08 AM »

Shhh.

But if we're going to get technical, it's a bit earlier than that. Although you could pretty well argue that the major regular European succession wars essentially proved the system never truly went away.

OnlyRegret · « **Reply #1270 on:** February 15, 2020, 02:55:49 AM »

Amateur hour there.
Here
https://www.reddit.com/r/CommunoCapitalism/comments/e1m1hc/communo_capitalism_shall_rise_again/

team filler · « **Reply #1271 on:** February 15, 2020, 04:12:36 AM »

https://twitter.com/helloitsthao/status/1228581489698361344

toku · « **Reply #1272 on:** February 15, 2020, 01:53:24 PM »

https://twitter.com/scottsantens/status/1228481712465813504

Tripon · « **Reply #1273 on:** February 15, 2020, 06:41:43 PM »

https://twitter.com/chrisdonato04/status/1228769913394741249

benjipwns · « **Reply #1274 on:** February 15, 2020, 06:44:20 PM »

https://www.pressherald.com/2020/02/06/u-s-senate-candidate-selects-guillotine-as-symbol-of-the-work-we-have-to-do/

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A U.S. Senate candidate in Maine has selected an unusual logo for campaign T-shirts – the guillotine – citing the need for a revolution to remove big money from politics.

The logo, unveiled this week by Democrat Bre Kidman, recalls the execution device known for its role in the 18th century French Revolution and is intended to symbolize revolt by low- and middle-income people, Kidman said.

“The guillotine is an image which calls to mind what people have done for revolution before,” said Kidman, an attorney who’s running for the seat held by Republican Sen. Susan Collins. “If we can find a better path to revolution than that we owe it to ourselves and our country.”

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Kidman said the campaign, which had raised about $16,000 by the end of last year, stopped actively fundraising in July. Merchandise, including t-shirts, patches and buttons, with the new logo is not for sale and instead will be given away to people who want to talk about the campaign ideas with fellow Mainers.

Kidman said the logo is not supposed to be taken literally.

“We’re not going to start a guillotine in Monument Square (in Portland) and start beheading people,” Kidman said. “It’s a symbol of the work we have to do to overcome flaws in our system – flaws that have become deeply evident in the last few weeks.”

https://twitter.com/BeeKay4ME/status/1225177542853828608

team filler · « **Reply #1275 on:** February 16, 2020, 03:22:19 PM »

shosti, you gotta get in on that

team filler · « **Reply #1276 on:** February 16, 2020, 03:32:14 PM »

team filler · « **Reply #1277 on:** February 16, 2020, 03:59:21 PM »

Quote from: filler on February 16, 2020, 03:22:19 PM

shosti, you gotta get in on that

OnlyRegret · « **Reply #1278 on:** February 16, 2020, 07:23:33 PM »

these black flag people offer such interesting takes

https://twitter.com/postje1917/status/1226840520841928704

OnlyRegret · « **Reply #1279 on:** February 17, 2020, 02:36:28 AM »

OnlyRegret · « **Reply #1280 on:** February 17, 2020, 02:40:41 AM »

I learned about the existence of Distributism in my meme tap.
I don't get it, cool logo though.

team filler · « **Reply #1281 on:** February 17, 2020, 02:47:03 AM »

Tripon · « **Reply #1282 on:** February 18, 2020, 12:11:44 AM »

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #1283 on:** February 18, 2020, 09:03:27 AM »

Truly a modern Renaissance man.

OnlyRegret · « **Reply #1284 on:** February 18, 2020, 10:41:58 PM »

c'mere benjimans

https://twitter.com/hilaryagro/status/1229177598003077123

benjipwns · « **Reply #1285 on:** February 18, 2020, 10:45:21 PM »

I don't have feelings, why would other people have them?

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team filler · « **Reply #1286 on:** February 19, 2020, 12:50:19 PM »

https://twitter.com/peakyeyes/status/1229988750031114241

team filler · « **Reply #1287 on:** February 20, 2020, 04:18:26 AM »

https://twitter.com/jennineak/status/1230418805194514433

team filler · « **Reply #1288 on:** February 20, 2020, 02:33:23 PM »

team filler · « **Reply #1289 on:** February 20, 2020, 03:37:33 PM »

https://twitter.com/anyaparampil/status/1230590704151388160

BisMarckie · « **Reply #1290 on:** February 20, 2020, 08:48:35 PM »

BisMarckie's Hegel 2020 Project status update: I have bought Encyclopedia of the Philosophical Sciences and held the books in my hands once by unpacking them. Felt pretty smart doing that tbh.

jakefromstatefarm · « **Reply #1291 on:** February 20, 2020, 09:40:34 PM »

guys, going through kant and hegel is cool and fine, but you don’t have to read everyone in the canon^TM. best piece of advice someone can give you is don’t let reading get in the way of things you actually want to read. you’ll better understand marx, or whoever, just by reading marx.

BisMarckie · « **Reply #1292 on:** February 20, 2020, 09:47:31 PM »

My favorite professor was a huge Hegel stan, he unironically had the position that all philosophy ended with Hegel.

I thought to myself: Well if he is that good, I'll have to read his magnum opus one day.

But here I am shitposting on a neogaf splinter forum.

El Babua · « **Reply #1293 on:** February 20, 2020, 09:56:00 PM »

Honestly a better use of your time

jakefromstatefarm · « **Reply #1294 on:** February 20, 2020, 10:12:46 PM »

Quote from: Esch on February 20, 2020, 09:56:33 PM

dialectics

part of what you find out is that this is just a giant red herring getting in the way of actually understanding anything. not in the sense that ‘it’ is bullshit, but in the sense that ‘it’ depends entirely on who’s talking and how theyre using it.

benjipwns · « **Reply #1295 on:** February 20, 2020, 10:25:18 PM »

Stolen from NeoGAF.com during the 504 Gateway Error Period: https://www.idrlabs.com/communism/test.php

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The IDRlabs Communist Beliefs Test was informed by classic works of literature and the historical foundations of Marxist communism to create this free online test. As a political ideology, proponents of communism believe that society’s resources should be communally shared, while social classes should be eliminated. IDRlabs International and the present IDRlabs Communist Beliefs Test are independent from any researchers who have produced work in the area of communism or any such related topics.

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BisMarckie · « **Reply #1296 on:** February 20, 2020, 10:35:43 PM »

33 %

higher than benji, which means he should be the first in the gulag after the revolution, not me.

jakefromstatefarm · « **Reply #1297 on:** February 20, 2020, 10:39:43 PM »

Quote from: Esch on February 20, 2020, 10:20:18 PM

I just want to read hegel for hegel.

this is a good look. one of the biggest things i’m alluding to above is that virtually everyone points to hegel when they need to explain ‘dialectics’ and it turns out that that’s just an awful way of understanding what’s going on in the phenomenology or the rest of his system. there’s a kernel of truth to it, but the term brings too much osmotic baggage with it, to the point where it’s better to just scrap it and start with a clean sheet

benjipwns · « **Reply #1298 on:** February 20, 2020, 10:40:13 PM »

A 24%er is someone who can help implement land and copyright reform while not being a threat to leadership, a 33%er sounds more like someone who will make doctrinal disputes and try to challenge centralism.

OnlyRegret · « **Reply #1299 on:** February 20, 2020, 10:44:56 PM »

35%

what's the labour camp cutoff?

Tripon · « **Reply #1300 on:** February 21, 2020, 01:11:55 AM »

https://twitter.com/ohplease_DEAR/status/1230721396038201344

team filler · « **Reply #1301 on:** February 21, 2020, 02:57:06 PM »

Quote from: jakefromstatefarm on February 20, 2020, 09:40:34 PM

(Image removed from quote.) guys, going through kant and hegel is cool and fine, but you don’t have to read everyone in the canon^TM. best piece of advice someone can give you is don’t let reading get in the way of things you actually want to read. you’ll better understand marx, or whoever, just by reading marx.

https://twitter.com/LassPeaches/status/1230942720975233024

OnlyRegret · « **Reply #1302 on:** February 21, 2020, 02:59:18 PM »

prolific incel Jake will disregard that due to feminine pronouns

team filler · « **Reply #1303 on:** February 21, 2020, 05:09:15 PM »

https://twitter.com/josiahsilas/status/1230872204335775745

curly · « **Reply #1304 on:** February 21, 2020, 05:57:24 PM »

Quote from: benjipwns on February 20, 2020, 10:25:18 PM

Stolen from NeoGAF.com during the 504 Gateway Error Period: https://www.idrlabs.com/communism/test.php
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The IDRlabs Communist Beliefs Test (IDR-CBT©) was developed by IDRlabs International. The IDR-CBT is based on principles developed by notable communists such as Marx and Engels. The IDR-CBT is not associated with any specific researchers in the fields of political psychology or sociology, or any affiliated research institutions.

The IDRlabs Communist Beliefs Test was informed by classic works of literature and the historical foundations of Marxist communism to create this free online test. As a political ideology, proponents of communism believe that society’s resources should be communally shared, while social classes should be eliminated. IDRlabs International and the present IDRlabs Communist Beliefs Test are independent from any researchers who have produced work in the area of communism or any such related topics.

The current test was created by professionals certified in the delivery and scoring of numerous psychological measures, who have worked professionally in various fields of psychology including social psychology, political psychology, and personality testing.

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OnlyRegret · « **Reply #1305 on:** February 22, 2020, 12:08:06 AM »

browsing elsewhere on idrlabs
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benjipwns · « **Reply #1306 on:** February 22, 2020, 11:47:06 AM »

Quote from: OnlyRegret on February 22, 2020, 12:08:06 AM

browsing elsewhere on idrlabs
https://www.idrlabs.com/villain/test.php

They have two separate pyschopath tests.

Also:
https://www.idrlabs.com/libertarian/test.php

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You are 89% Libertarian, which makes you a Hardcore Libertarian.
Watch out, we've got a badass over here.

benjipwns · « **Reply #1307 on:** February 22, 2020, 11:57:57 AM »

Of course not. How do you know that's not the 11% I missed!!!!!!! Seriously, I didn't get 100%! Not at all! 11 as a percentage or age is much too small!

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #1308 on:** February 22, 2020, 12:00:01 PM »

Quote from: benjipwns on February 22, 2020, 11:47:06 AM

Quote from: OnlyRegret on February 22, 2020, 12:08:06 AM
browsing elsewhere on idrlabs
https://www.idrlabs.com/villain/test.php
They have two separate pyschopath tests.

Also:
https://www.idrlabs.com/libertarian/test.php
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You are 89% Libertarian, which makes you a Hardcore Libertarian.
Watch out, we've got a badass over here.

When a personality test is secretly a direct attack against you.

benjipwns · « **Reply #1309 on:** February 22, 2020, 12:05:53 PM »

https://www.idrlabs.com/political-left-right/test.php

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I got 75% left-wing, this is why I can hide in plain sight despite being a badass.

BisMarckie · « **Reply #1310 on:** February 22, 2020, 12:11:07 PM »

Hang on, what do purple carrots or reading about sports tell me about my political leaning?
Am I already on an anticommunist watch list?

BisMarckie · « **Reply #1311 on:** February 22, 2020, 12:14:48 PM »

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Philosophical discussions are mostly:

Boring
Fun
Pointless

Where is the ‚all of the above‘ option?

benjipwns · « **Reply #1312 on:** February 22, 2020, 12:15:17 PM »

Stro out here trying to smear me when he was a CENTRIST the whole time.

BisMarckie · « **Reply #1313 on:** February 22, 2020, 12:17:40 PM »

It was the arugula, wasn‘t it?

Tripon · « **Reply #1314 on:** February 22, 2020, 12:24:21 PM »

Fuck, this proves that I'm Joe Rogan.

nachobro · « **Reply #1315 on:** February 22, 2020, 12:25:56 PM »

guess i have to vote for trump daddy over berndawg now $:-\$

i said that i like arugala AND i'd try the purple carrots and i still end up with this

benjipwns · « **Reply #1316 on:** February 22, 2020, 12:27:42 PM »

centrists to the left of me, centrists to the right of me

Mandark · « **Reply #1317 on:** February 22, 2020, 12:28:29 PM »

The #1 question for discerning political stances from ostensibly non-political questions would be "Agree or disagree: college basketball is more entertaining to watch than the NBA because of the teamwork and fundamentals."

benjipwns · « **Reply #1318 on:** February 22, 2020, 12:29:55 PM »

it's because you guys are all thinking of this and picking country music:

BisMarckie · « **Reply #1319 on:** February 22, 2020, 12:31:39 PM »

Quote from: Mandark on February 22, 2020, 12:28:29 PM

The #1 question for discerning political stances from ostensibly non-political questions would be "Agree or disagree: college basketball is more entertaining to watch than the NBA because of the teamwork and fundamentals."

What if I enjoy college hoops more because the crowds are more into it?

Third way wins again

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Author Topic: Laissez-faire Politics Thread - Praxis? I didn't play Deus Ex, sorry. (Read 294062 times)