Game of Thrones Season 8, we can finally stop waiting on GURM

[MMaRsu]

man, I'm with agrajag now. khaleesi's story was fucked good. jon snow's story was fucked good. winter was fucked good. I know this isn't really high fantasy but years ago I was looking forward to the Azor Ahai resurrection / REAL Lightbringer prophecy culminating with Jon Snow's heroic arc and Daenerys' justice arc.

Maybe Jon Snow is supposed to kill Daenerys - but how about as the ultimate sacrifice to bring out Lightbringer's power to defeat the Night King, like in the legend? Maybe King's Landing was supposed to be destroyed, like in Dany's vision - but how about not retconning snow into ash, and letting the Night King kill Cersei instead? Take every lesson from the story and make it add up to something.

Stop projecting your hopes & dreams from the books into the fucking show

 

" Hey guys maybe this should have happened! Or this instead! I was really looking forward to discovering more about ... from the books! Maybe the show could have gone in this direction instead?"

Lulz

[agrajag]

Maybe the show could've been good?

[MMaRsu]

Maybe the show could've been good?

It was great, stop crying.

[agrajag]

you're the only one crying you little fanboy bitch! how many GoT shirts do you have in your closet?

MMaRsu:

[MMaRsu]

Lol I have enjoyed every season. Not sure why all of a sudden this season the show turned to shit. Its fucking hilarious to see some of yall get so worked up over the smallest littlest details. BUT CAN A DRAGON FIRE EVEN BREAK STONE?

But whatever like I said Ive enjoyed all seasons, sure there were some errors or stupid continuation errors but none of that impacted my fun and pleasure watching the show.

Really have a feeling some of yall watched it looking like this the entire time.


With an angry look, and a magnifying glass that everything that's not 100% up to snuff makes the show bad.

Oh well I thought it was a grandiose undertaking, the writers did the best they could and sometimes it def could have been written better but they worked with what they had and I respect them for that.

But I guess its easier to shit on them, make memes instead of looking from a realistic human standpoint.

I'm glad it's over so I dont have to be confronted by people going nuts over the smallest details. If anything is cringe worthy to me, that would be it.

( stuff like Euron attack by Dany? Yeah ok that was stupid fucking writing )

[Nintex]

Alternative outcome:
- The council meets to pick a new King
Sansa: "John is and was the Rightful heir. If Dany had known her place she would've still lived. He should be our king"
Davos: "I fought and died for Stannis Baratheon because I believed he was the prince that was promised. I don't know much about magic and prophecies but I do know that Jon Snow is our promised King"
Grey Worm: "Jon Snow cannot be King"
Tyrion: "Daenerys burned Varys and with him, she burned reason. You would've fought and died for nothing had she still lived"
Sam: "I watched Jon die and then I watched him come back from the dead. He has a mission and I believe that Mission is to be our King"
etc.

What we got was:
Tyrion thinks: "Oh dear, guess these idiots can't decide on a King. Let's see, Bronn still wants my head so who is easy to manipulate and won't care about anything that is going on."
Tyrion: "ALL HAIL BRAN THE BROKEN!"
All: "What about Jon tho?"
Bran: "Fuck him, Just send him to the wall"

[BisMarckie]

lol stfu you autstys

[shosta]

Stop projecting your hopes & dreams from the books into the fucking show

 

" Hey guys maybe this should have happened! Or this instead! I was really looking forward to discovering more about ... from the books! Maybe the show could have gone in this direction instead?"

Lulz

This is going to blow your tiny dutch brain, but the show is based on the books

[MMaRsu]

Alternative outcome:
- The council meets to pick a new King
Sansa: "John is and was the Rightful heir. If Dany had known her place she would've still lived. He should be our king"
Davos: "I fought and died for Stannis Baratheon because I believed he was the prince that was promised. I don't know much about magic and prophecies but I do know that Jon Snow is our promised King"
Grey Worm: "Jon Snow cannot be King"
Tyrion: "Daenerys burned Varys and with him, she burned reason. You would've fought and died for nothing had she still lived"
Sam: "I watched Jon die and then I watched him come back from the dead. He has a mission and I believe that Mission is to be our King"
etc.

What we got was:
Tyrion thinks: "Oh dear, guess these idiots can't decide on a King. Let's see, Bronn still wants my head so who is easy to manipulate and won't care about anything that is going on."
Tyrion: "ALL HAIL BRAN THE BROKEN!"
All: "What about Jon tho?"
Bran: "Fuck him, Just send him to the wall"

Really? The three eyed Raven? Easy to manipulate?

[MMaRsu]

Stop projecting your hopes & dreams from the books into the fucking show

 

" Hey guys maybe this should have happened! Or this instead! I was really looking forward to discovering more about ... from the books! Maybe the show could have gone in this direction instead?"

Lulz

This is going to blow your tiny dutch brain, but the show is based on the books

It is, and then the writer stopped writing and the writers of the show had to fill in the blanks itself.

Many things from the books aren't even mentioned in the show.

So yes it's stupid to project your assumptions and hopes from the book onto the show, since it has been clear for a few seasons that this is it's own story.

[agrajag]

when Nintex fanfics make more sense than what we got

 

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[MMaRsu]

fanfics

 

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https://www.facebook.com/NinjaJesus/videos/10157459977395625/

[Nintex]

Alternative outcome:
- The council meets to pick a new King
Sansa: "John is and was the Rightful heir. If Dany had known her place she would've still lived. He should be our king"
Davos: "I fought and died for Stannis Baratheon because I believed he was the prince that was promised. I don't know much about magic and prophecies but I do know that Jon Snow is our promised King"
Grey Worm: "Jon Snow cannot be King"
Tyrion: "Daenerys burned Varys and with him, she burned reason. You would've fought and died for nothing had she still lived"
Sam: "I watched Jon die and then I watched him come back from the dead. He has a mission and I believe that Mission is to be our King"
etc.

What we got was:
Tyrion thinks: "Oh dear, guess these idiots can't decide on a King. Let's see, Bronn still wants my head so who is easy to manipulate and won't care about anything that is going on."
Tyrion: "ALL HAIL BRAN THE BROKEN!"
All: "What about Jon tho?"
Bran: "Fuck him, Just send him to the wall"

Really? The three eyed Raven? Easy to manipulate?

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Bran made Bronn the master of coin and the lord of Highgarden.
The same Bronn that needed an explanation of how a bank loan works in a previous season.

[BisMarckie]

Bran is in beast mode

[agrajag]

wow, the writers are so clever Bran the Broken parallels our own leader by hiring the best people

 

edit: fuck your Kenny

[Nintex]

Jon: "You can still visit me Arya"

Arya: "LAWL no you bastard. I will sail away fuck you"

Jon: "Can't I just come and sail with you?"

Arya: "Nope, you can die without titles, lands and children in the North"

Jon: "So if Grey Worm is leaving and has no reason to head for Winterfell, can I just come back to Winterfell?"

Sansa: "And contest me for my throne? Just die already Jon"

[BisMarckie]

wow, the writers are so clever Bran the Broken parallels our own leader by hiring the best people

 

edit: fuck your Kenny

I know you are frustrated about Game of Thrones, but there is no reason to resort to dead naming

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[Kara]

Would have liked for Jon to be king in the end too;  but also liked how he ended up King North of the Wall as really that's more fitting for his character.  Having people follow him despite not really trying to rule, and being the "King" of freefolk is a totally different type of "King" more fitting of Jon's personality.

Yeah, with the caveat that he was doing a Johnny Utah at the time, Jon seemed most at home among the free folk.

[BisMarckie]

Would have liked for Jon to be king in the end too;  but also liked how he ended up King North of the Wall as really that's more fitting for his character.  Having people follow him despite not really trying to rule, and being the "King" of freefolk is a totally different type of "King" more fitting of Jon's personality.

Yeah, with the caveat that he was doing a Johnny Utah at the time, Jon seemed most at home among the free folk.

That was an unexpected reference.

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[Nintex]

[MMaRsu]

https://twitter.com/WillSloanEsq/status/1130834448935727104

I think with online viewers this number is probably a lot higher, on both shows.

Ofcourse HBO is a pay to watch channel only, and a lot of people just download it.

[BIONIC]

[shosta]

I mentally checked out after Stannis the Mannis failed at Winterfell. He was the realest one.

[Himu]

https://twitter.com/WillSloanEsq/status/1130834448935727104

GoT is the most watched show in the world with over 100 million viewers. There’s the live watchers but there’s also the HBO Go watchers and pirates.

It’s the pirates that really boost its numbers with over 80-90 million downloads at last count.

[Joe Molotov]

https://twitter.com/WillSloanEsq/status/1130834448935727104

I think with online viewers this number is probably a lot higher, on both shows.

Ofcourse HBO is a pay to watch channel only, and a lot of people just download it.

The series ended after eight seasons in 1999. Richardson was offered $25 million to do a ninth season; Allen was offered $50 million. The two declined the offer and the series came to an end as a result.[5]

The Home Improvement finale was so good, they begged Tim Allen to come back, but he respected the artistic vision of the writers too much to sully the show with a cash grab.

[Himu]

https://twitter.com/WillSloanEsq/status/1130834448935727104

I think with online viewers this number is probably a lot higher, on both shows.

Ofcourse HBO is a pay to watch channel only, and a lot of people just download it.

The series ended after eight seasons in 1999. Richardson was offered $25 million to do a ninth season; Allen was offered $50 million. The two declined the offer and the series came to an end as a result.[5]

The Home Improvement finale was so good, they begged Tim Allen to come back, but he respected the artistic vision of the writers too much to sully the show with a cash grab.

Jonathon taylor Thomas left that show like an asshole. Fuck that kid. Left for better horizons when he’s not even an actor at this point.

[Himu]

Joe would you watch a Home Improvement reboot

[BisMarckie]

What would the cast look like?
And is it a reboot or a reboot with excessive violence and sex?


Either way, no.

[Himu]

What would the cast look like?
And is it a reboot or a reboot with excessive violence and sex?


Either way, no.

I was thinking more Roseanne sequel

[Himu]

https://twitter.com/WillSloanEsq/status/1130834448935727104

GoT is the most watched show in the world with over 100 million viewers. There’s the live watchers but there’s also the HBO Go watchers and pirates.

It’s the pirates that really boost its numbers with over 80-90 million downloads at last count.

It's a joke, not a serious post lol

spoiler (click to show/hide)

I remember being sad af that home improvement ended as a kid  :'(

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I know it's a joke.

And I also cried when Home Improvement ended

[MMaRsu]

I must admit I thought Home Improvement was cheesy as hell, but I still watched it as a kid. Never saw a finale or anything like that, it wasn't airing in order here anyway

[MMaRsu]

So are we watching Chernobyl next guys?

[thisismyusername]

Spoilered in case Riotious wigs out

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Do you guys really just think it's super kool that shosta spoiled the last episode by reading leaks and posting them in an unrelated thread hours before it aired?

Like the fact you guys are giving me grief for calling him out on that is some serious edgelord 12 year old shit.

The fact that you're perma-triggered about this is what is funny to me. You even were sitting there for an hour waiting for the moment just to go "goddamn it, Shosta..." in front of your wife.

Like dude, it's not as big a deal as you made it out to be. It sucks, yes. But come on.

So are we watching Chernobyl next guys?

Sci-fi coming back into vogue as I'm pretty much quitting TV. :'(

[thisismyusername]

https://twitter.com/cindtrillella/status/1130297061717544961

This thread is hilarious. Must read. She tears the series apart lmao

That text message, I'm wheezing.

[Himu]

https://twitter.com/cindtrillella/status/1130297061717544961

This thread is hilarious. Must read. She tears the series apart lmao

That text message, I'm wheezing.

Yeah it killed me

[Joe Molotov]

What would the cast look like?
And is it a reboot or a reboot with excessive violence and sex?


Either way, no.

I was thinking more Roseanne sequel

Home Improvement Season 9:

Tim's alt-right tool podcast gets banned from Facebook, his wife left him for Wilson, one or more of his sons have gotten gay married, and Al gets #MeToo'd by Heidi.

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https://twitter.com/WISN_Watson/status/1130931040200077314

[BIONIC]

What would the cast look like?
And is it a reboot or a reboot with excessive violence and sex?


Either way, no.

I was thinking more Roseanne sequel

Home Improvement Season 9:

Tim's alt-right tool podcast gets banned from Facebook, his wife left him for Wilson, one or more of his sons have gotten gay married, and Al gets #MeToo'd by Heidi.

Al’s a perfect gentlemen. Don’t you dare motherfucker, don’t…you…d…

Oh god, he totally did it, didn't he?

[agrajag]

https://twitter.com/WISN_Watson/status/1130931040200077314

 

[Himu]

Is under NDA

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[BisMarckie]

She also lost her cool.   

[Great Rumbler]

lol get rekt dany

[agrajag]

https://www.gamesradar.com/george-r-r-martin-fromsoftware-game-e3-norse-great-rune/

here we go lads

[Kara]

Actually read the Zizek article about the bad dragon show. Reading Zizek in 2019 (my god).

1. Describing Dany as a Bonapartist figure is an interesting observation but I'm not sure it's one I agree with. In Meereen she certainly attempted to mediate a revolution in individual freedoms and a profoundly reactionary culture, but she wasn't particularly successful in that endeavor and she only slid into such a course of action after it became apparent she was dealing with (to deliberately use the language of imperialism) an armed insurgency. Her time in Westeros was brief but there was never anything similar to that; her arc as a cautionary tale about legitimist movements seems a much more supportable argument.

2. I agree that the moral of the tale is quite conservative (the Six Kingdoms end with a literal philosopher king), but I'm a little surprised that Zizek didn't notice or chose not to write about how that conservativism in particular indicted democracy done outside the narrow confines of formal power. For example, I found it quite impressive (grading on the low curve television necessitates, obviously) that the sacking of King's Landing was explicitly depicted as a democratic action. Forces routinely ignored the commands of Jonny Utah (even our brave, noble, men of the north) to do some war crimes because they wanted to and the Unsullied have always been myrmidons by choice rather than by necessity. Sure the message itself is Nolan tier Tory drivel, but it was conveyed in such a manner that only the silliest Puritan type reads it as a fAlL oF mAn situation.

[Kara]

^shut up, nerd

[agrajag]

I agree, Zizek's article was thought provoking, if limited. He missed some things for sure, and he has an idealized vision of Dany. I would love to see someone push back on his points and see how he responds to criticism.

[shosta]

Describing Dany as a Bonapartist figure is an interesting observation but I'm not sure it's one I agree with. In Meereen she certainly attempted to mediate a revolution in individual freedoms and a profoundly reactionary culture, but she wasn't particularly successful in that endeavor and she only slid into such a course of action after it became apparent she was dealing with (to deliberately use the language of imperialism) an armed insurgency. Her time in Westeros was brief but there was never anything similar to that; her arc as a cautionary tale about legitimist movements seems a much more supportable argument.

That seems congruent with the French experience, which was to experiment with tumultuous revolution for nearly a decade and then fall back on some French traditionalism (the concordat of 1801, authoritarianism, etc.) when problems arose. But more importantly the comparison to Bonoparte (which he explicitly diminishes as "a kind of progressive bonopartist") was to contrast her with the ancien regime of the starks and noble houses in general, the transition away from birthright politics, and the deliberate campaign to export a revolution. Hardly seems like a sloppy comparison to me.

2. I agree that the moral of the tale is quite conservative (the Six Kingdoms end with a literal philosopher king), but I'm a little surprised that Zizek didn't notice or chose not to write about how that conservativism in particular indicted democracy done outside the narrow confines of formal power. For example, I found it quite impressive (grading on the low curve television necessitates, obviously) that the sacking of King's Landing was explicitly depicted as a democratic action. Forces routinely ignored the commands of Jonny Utah (even our brave, noble, men of the north) to do some war crimes because they wanted to and the Unsullied have always been myrmidons by choice rather than by necessity. Sure the message itself is Nolan tier Tory drivel, but it was conveyed in such a manner that only the silliest Puritan type reads it as a fAlL oF mAn situation.

I'm confused. You think the depiction of the sack was deliberately constructed, or at least unconsciously so, to demonstrate that participatory democracy is the same as anarchy? And that this is more likely than some soldiers just going nuts with bloodlust in a hastily written big budget tv finale? Because if so, you need to cite your sources ().

Anyway a feminist critique of Dany is interesting. Not sure if I am entirely certain of the conclusion (that her plot twist is the expression of patriarchal fear of female politicians) but it's possible and I'm big coolie with people talking about it

[agrajag]

[Momo]

Khaleesi - happy ending fucking a dragon in the afterlife

[agrajag]

[agrajag]

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[BisMarckie]

Actually read the Zizek article about the bad dragon show. Reading Zizek in 2019 (my god).

1. Describing Dany as a Bonapartist figure is an interesting observation but I'm not sure it's one I agree with. In Meereen she certainly attempted to mediate a revolution in individual freedoms and a profoundly reactionary culture, but she wasn't particularly successful in that endeavor and she only slid into such a course of action after it became apparent she was dealing with (to deliberately use the language of imperialism) an armed insurgency. Her time in Westeros was brief but there was never anything similar to that; her arc as a cautionary tale about legitimist movements seems a much more supportable argument.

2. I agree that the moral of the tale is quite conservative (the Six Kingdoms end with a literal philosopher king), but I'm a little surprised that Zizek didn't notice or chose not to write about how that conservativism in particular indicted democracy done outside the narrow confines of formal power. For example, I found it quite impressive (grading on the low curve television necessitates, obviously) that the sacking of King's Landing was explicitly depicted as a democratic action. Forces routinely ignored the commands of Jonny Utah (even our brave, noble, men of the north) to do some war crimes because they wanted to and the Unsullied have always been myrmidons by choice rather than by necessity. Sure the message itself is Nolan tier Tory drivel, but it was conveyed in such a manner that only the silliest Puritan type reads it as a fAlL oF mAn situation.

The Napoleon comparison falls completely  apart once you realize that there was no revolution in Mereen. It was a coup at best and an imperialist invasion at worst to remove a societal structure that she deemed to be inferior and savage. It's as asinine as saying that the government in Meereen past Daenerys was a metaphor for Vichy-France.
Slavoj doing anything for a quick buck these days.

[BisMarckie]

Also shosta calling him Bonoparte almost killed me.

[agrajag]

more like blow my partes