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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #37500 on: August 19, 2019, 11:24:45 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/an-epic-problem-the-jimquisition.135767/

and the DARQ topic gets a reboot :rofl

I swear it's like every Jimquisition over the past year has been LOOTBOXES!/UBISOFT!/EPIC!  over and over again.
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« Reply #37502 on: August 19, 2019, 11:37:48 AM »
Ion Fury devs: Certain SJWs trying to destroy people over a random comment is dumb, also teenagers getting gender-reassignment surgery is pretty wack

RE: OMG DESTROY THEM THEY DON'T DESERVE TO LIVE

Tide come in, tide goes out, ect. You can't explain that.

You took my joke and made it better, I need to hire you as an editor.

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 ERA: *proceeds to try and ruin lives*

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« Reply #37503 on: August 19, 2019, 12:01:17 PM »
How the fuck is the equivalent of a casino giving a record label a fat paycheck 2 weeks before a bands album drops to book them to play exclusively at their casino for 6 months instead of letting them do a nationwide tour "better" for that band than letting them tour while their albums hot or funding them making an album in the first place?

 :brain

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« Reply #37504 on: August 19, 2019, 12:04:28 PM »

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« Reply #37505 on: August 19, 2019, 12:07:25 PM »
He does not manufacture outrage. The outrage already exists, at the MOST he stokes the flames that are already there.

yeah, you can say the same thing about every other hate mongering piece of shit, it doesn't absolve them of all responsibility for the shit their fans go off and do after they're good and riled up

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« Reply #37507 on: August 19, 2019, 12:08:58 PM »
How the fuck is the equivalent of a casino giving a record label a fat paycheck 2 weeks before a bands album drops to book them to play exclusively at their casino for 6 months instead of letting them do a nationwide tour "better" for that band than letting them tour while their albums hot or funding them making an album in the first place?

 :brain

Wait, is this your analogy or from Re?

its mine because some people apparently don't understand the difference between a 'dev' and a 'publisher' is akin to a record label and a band.
Giving a record label a big fat paycheck to put a bands works exclusively at one venue or one streaming service does fuck all to help a band.

Its sure as fuck not 'better' than paying a band to make an album.

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« Reply #37508 on: August 19, 2019, 12:10:00 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/can-we-have-real-progress-in-the-us-while-white-americans-are-the-majority.135770/

 :brain

What world do these people live in where white countries are conservative and brown/black countries are progressive

Have you never heard of progressive powerhouses like Saudi Arabia, Nigeria and so on?

Lol noob.

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« Reply #37509 on: August 19, 2019, 12:12:28 PM »
How the fuck is the equivalent of a casino giving a record label a fat paycheck 2 weeks before a bands album drops to book them to play exclusively at their casino for 6 months instead of letting them do a nationwide tour "better" for that band than letting them tour while their albums hot or funding them making an album in the first place?

 :brain

Wait, is this your analogy or from Re?

its mine because some people apparently don't understand the difference between a 'dev' and a 'publisher' is akin to a record label and a band.
Giving a record label a big fat paycheck to put a bands works exclusively at one venue or one streaming service does fuck all to help a band.

Its sure as fuck not 'better' than paying a band to make an album.

What, and be specific, exactly are you talking about?

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« Reply #37510 on: August 19, 2019, 12:12:34 PM »
How the fuck is the equivalent of a casino giving a record label a fat paycheck 2 weeks before a bands album drops to book them to play exclusively at their casino for 6 months instead of letting them do a nationwide tour "better" for that band than letting them tour while their albums hot or funding them making an album in the first place?

 :brain

I'm not sure that's the best analogy (live acts is only one facet of music distribution)... But reportedly the paycheck are fat enough that taking the money upfront offsets the potential (but not guaranteed) profits of a wide release.

Honestly we might have to wait a couple years (and the follow up games they managed to make with Epic's money) before being able to form a judgement on how beneficial it was for devs to take those moneyhats.
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« Reply #37511 on: August 19, 2019, 12:17:33 PM »


I'm not sure that's the best analogy (live acts is only one facet of music distribution)... But reportedly the paycheck are fat enough that taking the money upfront offsets the potential (but not guaranteed) profits of a wide release.

Honestly we might have to wait a couple years (and the follow up games they managed to make with Epic's money) before being able to form a judgement on how beneficial it was for devs to take those moneyhats.

We don't need to see sales figures to know for an absolute certainty that a title being fully funded from scratch is better than a last minute snatch and grab; both in terms of financial security, in fostering new works, and in promoting goodwill towards the funder.

e:
again, its the difference between nintendo / sony funding development of Bayonetta / SFV, and MS cockblocking other platforms from playing Ballad Of Gay Tony for 6 months.

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« Reply #37512 on: August 19, 2019, 12:20:04 PM »
https://twitter.com/SophNar0747/status/1163311643276849153
https://twitter.com/SophNar0747/status/1163315552221368320

GET 'EM! :punch :punch

It anyone else tired of tweets that just like... are like this? Everything is Cuban Missile Crisis levels of importance and everyone is always Very Upset™... enough already...

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« Reply #37513 on: August 19, 2019, 12:21:49 PM »
"I'm done playing nice! :maf"

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« Reply #37514 on: August 19, 2019, 12:26:20 PM »


I'm not sure that's the best analogy (live acts is only one facet of music distribution)... But reportedly the paycheck are fat enough that taking the money upfront offsets the potential (but not guaranteed) profits of a wide release.

Honestly we might have to wait a couple years (and the follow up games they managed to make with Epic's money) before being able to form a judgement on how beneficial it was for devs to take those moneyhats.

We don't need to see sales figures to know for an absolute certainty that a title being fully funded from scratch is better than a last minute snatch and grab; both in terms of financial security, in fostering new works, and in promoting goodwill towards the funder.

But isn't the argument from some of the people who signed exclusivity deals is that those upfront money are helping for their next titles "from scratch" (or financial security for their next cycle) ?

I don't think the current level of controversy and animosity against the EGS store and some of the companies who took this deal can be sustained for years on end. The EGS possibly stagnating as "one of those other launchers" or the lost of potential sales, outreach and publicity on their current titles may end hurt some for their following release but it's difficult to predict. It's probably gonna be case by case, I would imagine people could hold a grudge longer with YsNet than with Klei.
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« Reply #37515 on: August 19, 2019, 12:27:09 PM »
How the fuck is the equivalent of a casino giving a record label a fat paycheck 2 weeks before a bands album drops to book them to play exclusively at their casino for 6 months instead of letting them do a nationwide tour "better" for that band than letting them tour while their albums hot or funding them making an album in the first place?

 :brain

Wait, is this your analogy or from Re?

its mine because some people apparently don't understand the difference between a 'dev' and a 'publisher' is akin to a record label and a band.
Giving a record label a big fat paycheck to put a bands works exclusively at one venue or one streaming service does fuck all to help a band.

Its sure as fuck not 'better' than paying a band to make an album.

I mean, this depends on how shitty of a contract negotiator you are.

That dude for that game, never even entered negotiations to be able to tell if it was a shitty deal or not.

:yeshrug

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #37516 on: August 19, 2019, 12:28:09 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/can-we-have-real-progress-in-the-us-while-white-americans-are-the-majority.135770/

 :brain

What world do these people live in where white countries are conservative and brown/black countries are progressive

Have you never heard of progressive powerhouses like Saudi Arabia, Nigeria and so on?

Lol noob.

I guess that explains why they were shocked that Palestine's leadership is anti-lgbt

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« Reply #37517 on: August 19, 2019, 12:30:31 PM »
Very Serious Twitter Thread and Something I've Been Thinking About For Awhile But Haven't Spoken Out About

Tweet 1/9 > Boring preamble
Tweet 2/9 >Boring preamble
Tweet 3/9 >Boring preamble
Tweet 4/9 >Still unnecessary detail
Tweet 5/9 >More unnecessary detail
Tweet 6/9 >The one thing you actually cared about
Tweet 7/9 >Bullshit
Tweet 8/9 >Bullshit
Tweet 9/9 >Smug self righteous patting on own back

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« Reply #37518 on: August 19, 2019, 12:31:36 PM »
I'm well aware it's more normal than not to have a publisher;  I wouldn't have made that comment if the context of the conversation wasn't spawned form a self published indie being the one that caused the largest controversy.

The vast majority of the exclusivity deals made so far have been with publishers, not developers.
Publishers are going to be okay regardless of moneyhats.

But isn't the argument from some of the people who signed exclusivity deals is that those upfront money are helping for their next titles "from scratch" (or financial security for their next cycle) ?

I don't think the current level of controversy and animosity against the EGS store and some of the companies who took this deal can be sustained for years on end. The EGS possibly stagnating as "one of those other launchers" or the lost of potential sales, outreach and publicity on their current titles may end hurt some for their following release but it's difficult to predict.

I haven't actually seen anyone making that argument; the "pro developer!" stance is based on uncertainty of launch sales, not ongoing development comittments.

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« Reply #37519 on: August 19, 2019, 12:32:28 PM »
Very Serious Twitter Thread and Something I've Been Thinking About For Awhile But Haven't Spoken Out About

Tweet 1/9 > Boring preamble
Tweet 2/9 >Boring preamble
Tweet 3/9 >Boring preamble
Tweet 4/9 >Still unnecessary detail
Tweet 5/9 >More unnecessary detail
Tweet 6/9 >The one thing you actually cared about
Tweet 7/9 >Bullshit
Tweet 8/9 >Bullshit
Tweet 9/9 >Smug self righteous patting on own back

Tweet 10/9 > And another thing
Tweet 11/9 > Be sure to like and subscribe
Tweet from random user > quickly undermines the whole thing and embarrasses you
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« Reply #37520 on: August 19, 2019, 12:32:41 PM »
Very Serious Twitter Thread and Something I've Been Thinking About For Awhile But Haven't Spoken Out About

Tweet 1/9 > Boring preamble
Tweet 2/9 >Boring preamble
Tweet 3/9 >Boring preamble
Tweet 4/9 >Still unnecessary detail
Tweet 5/9 >More unnecessary detail
Tweet 6/9 >The one thing you actually cared about
Tweet 7/9 >Bullshit
Tweet 8/9 >Bullshit
Tweet 9/9 >Smug self righteous patting on own back

Can I have that as a half hour long YT video?

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« Reply #37521 on: August 19, 2019, 12:36:46 PM »

Either way, my point was:  devs are taking these money hat deals left and right, including self published indies because they clearly think they are a great deal.

I mean... they're literally not. There was just a Nintendo indie hype video of titles not going to the EGS.
Todays era controversy du jour isn't EGS exclusive.

Epic are specifically targeting high profile titles, and they're still getting more misses than hits to take that deal.
It's not that sweet.

e:
And yet my comment you decided to make fun of.. was about indie devs.. specifically self published ones.

the vast majority of which... have publishers.
Ooblets had a publisher. One they dropped when they got a moneyhat.

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« Reply #37522 on: August 19, 2019, 12:41:09 PM »
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I haven't actually seen anyone making that argument; the "pro developer!" stance is based on uncertainty of launch sales, not ongoing development commitments

I mean it's implicitly one and the same, especially for a small studio ? Guarantee of being in the black (and in some cases apparently very much above that*) for the current release means lights will stay on regardless for a year or two.

* Phoenix Point one year exclusivity EGS deal reportedly amounted to a 191% revenue / budget ratio.
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« Reply #37523 on: August 19, 2019, 12:41:13 PM »
So they are taking the deals because they think the deals are terrible.

Got it.

I've never heard of any of the indie titles they've grabbed lol.. super high profile.

they're taking the deal because they're naive as fuck and believe the hype.

Its moot anyway, we only have ~4 months or so before the regretblogs

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I haven't actually seen anyone making that argument; the "pro developer!" stance is based on uncertainty of launch sales, not ongoing development commitments

I mean it's implicitly one and the same, especially for a small studio ? Guarantee of being in the black (and in some cases apparently very much above that*) for the current release means lights will stay on regardless for a year or two.

* Phoenix Point one year exclusivity EGS deal reportedly amounted to a 191% revenue / budget ratio.

I mean, every studio is different, and every title so fars motivation is similarly different; if the deal was as good as epic and the gaming blogs would have people believe, there would be more celebration of it by people who have agreed to it.

Nobody NDAs good news.

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« Reply #37524 on: August 19, 2019, 12:41:26 PM »
I remember when this thread was about secret open pedophiles and secret open nazis, now it's just nerds arguing over which icon they double click on their PC :fbm

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« Reply #37525 on: August 19, 2019, 12:42:07 PM »
why does everyone start their sentences with "i mean" now?

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« Reply #37526 on: August 19, 2019, 12:44:23 PM »
why does everyone start their sentences with "i mean" now?


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« Reply #37527 on: August 19, 2019, 12:45:07 PM »
How the fuck is the equivalent of a casino giving a record label a fat paycheck 2 weeks before a bands album drops to book them to play exclusively at their casino for 6 months instead of letting them do a nationwide tour "better" for that band than letting them tour while their albums hot or funding them making an album in the first place?

 :brain

How is a casino vs a worldwide tour even remotely comparable to EGS and Steam? A game released on Steam is functionally identical to one released on EGS. Both EGS and Steam are giving the worldwide tour.

Why are so many of these terrible comparisons acting like being EGS exclusive somehow stops you from accessing facets of the game even though all you have to do is install the launcher?

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« Reply #37528 on: August 19, 2019, 12:47:54 PM »
I remember when this thread was about secret open pedophiles and secret open nazis, now it's just nerds arguing over which icon they double click on their PC :fbm

left click once and press enter  :rage
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« Reply #37529 on: August 19, 2019, 12:52:52 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/i-wish-capcom-wouldve-went-with-the-early-blaxploitation-style-dmc5-logo.135721/

Haven't seen a lot of old school cinema posters, huh ?

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« Reply #37530 on: August 19, 2019, 12:54:38 PM »
I remember when this thread was about secret open pedophiles and secret open nazis, now it's just nerds arguing over which icon they double click on their PC :fbm

left click once and press enter  :rage
right click, left click open

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« Reply #37531 on: August 19, 2019, 12:54:54 PM »
How is a casino vs a worldwide tour even remotely comparable to EGS and Steam? A game released on Steam is functionally identical to one released on EGS. Both EGS and Steam are giving the worldwide tour.

Why are so many of these terrible comparisons acting like being EGS exclusive somehow stops you from accessing facets of the game even though all you have to do is install the launcher?

EGS doesn't support certain types of payments and certain territories that steam does.
I cba to source the figures on this again, but theres a big swathe of people where egs exclusivity = no possible sale.

Japan for example.


But it's a bad analogy either way;   EGS also has far fewer products in it's store.. so every game gets more exposure inside the client than it would on Steam generally.  Not to mention the fact the world has now heard of these otherwise unknown games simply due to the controversy.

That's whats known as a non-scalable 'solution'.
Also "Well I haven't heard of it" is a pretty poor argument to dismiss people who had heard of titles - and in some cases had helped fund their development in the first place - and were told sometimes days before release they weren;t getting what they thought they were.

Console owners going "Yasssss fuck valve and pc master race, they're the worst!" aren't buying these games now they've heard of them, any more than the people whose first exposure to Ion Fury was an Era hitpiece are now cancelling their preorders

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« Reply #37532 on: August 19, 2019, 12:56:21 PM »
why does everyone start their sentences with "i mean" now?

I mean, how else do you differentiate a statement from a clarification?

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« Reply #37533 on: August 19, 2019, 01:03:31 PM »
How is a casino vs a worldwide tour even remotely comparable to EGS and Steam? A game released on Steam is functionally identical to one released on EGS. Both EGS and Steam are giving the worldwide tour.

Why are so many of these terrible comparisons acting like being EGS exclusive somehow stops you from accessing facets of the game even though all you have to do is install the launcher?

EGS doesn't support certain types of payments and certain territories that steam does.
I cba to source the figures on this again, but theres a big swathe of people where egs exclusivity = no possible sale.

I do think that it's probably the biggest issue with the store now that theyve put in cloud saving, and if I was affected I'd be mad as fuck. I just know that I mostly speak about this issue with americans/english speakers/people in unaffected territories, and it strikes me as embracing a fringe issue just to make one's more personal problems with EGS seem valid.

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« Reply #37534 on: August 19, 2019, 01:10:58 PM »
I remember when this thread was about secret open pedophiles and secret open nazis, now it's just nerds arguing over which icon they double click on their PC :fbm

left click once and press enter  :rage
right click, left click open
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« Reply #37535 on: August 19, 2019, 01:24:19 PM »
All of these titles are more known than they were before;  I can say that with confidence.  They weren't making headlines all over the place, now they are.  You want to believe otherwise be my guest.

And yes Kickstarted games taking these deals are undeniably taking the biggest reputation hit;  in some cases having to do refunds, etc.   Nobody is denying the negative aspects of this.  You are the one refusing to discuss any possible positive out of these deals.

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Console owners going "Yasssss fuck valve and pc master race, they're the worst!" aren't buying these games now they've heard of them, any more than the people whose first exposure to Ion Fury was an Era hitpiece are now cancelling their preorders
JFC you are one obnoxious fucking twat.  Who said anything about console owners?  And that Ion Fury example is a great one...lol.. the controversy surrounding that game might increase it's sales...

You're an era poster, and era is a north american console forum.
You don't follow Pc gaming, so you don't know what upcoming PC titles people are looking forward to.

Half of the posts in any given EGS thread talking about how great EGS exclusivity is, are from people who don't fucking post in any topics except sony or nintendo threads, but suddenly get a boner for EGS.
Much like when people suddenly started cheerleading how great the Windows 10 Store is, when they only ever post in xbox threads.

If you don't think the majority of posts about how great EGS exclusives are aren't console war by proxy, you're kidding yourself.

I have no fucking clue what Man Of Medan is and couldn't give 2 fucks about it because I don't own a playstation and don't follow playstation news.
Doesn't mean nobody has heard of it.

I do think that it's probably the biggest issue with the store now that theyve put in cloud saving, and if I was affected I'd be mad as fuck. I just know that I mostly speak about this issue with americans/english speakers/people in unaffected territories, and it strikes me as embracing a fringe issue just to make one's more personal problems with EGS seem valid.

there's a laundry list of complaints about the EGS; again, I really cba to go through them all to persuade you why "just a strefront bro" is an awful, uninformed take.
the fact they don't do regional payments is just one of the many actual lies that have been told;
"70/30 split is terrible, nobody deserves that cut, we'll do 88/12"
"Why don't you support regional payments?"
"oh, well we can't afford to at an 88/12 split, so we pass those costs onto customers at checkout"

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« Reply #37536 on: August 19, 2019, 01:25:42 PM »
We've witnessed the birth of the "No True PC Gamer" fallacy

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« Reply #37537 on: August 19, 2019, 01:26:20 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/do-you-ever-think-about-how-much-grass-landscape-sucks.135707/

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1. Uses a lot of water, if you don't use very much then it looks like shit and everyone judges you. Major water waste area here.
2. Produces a lot of CO2 because of lawn mowing. And if you don't mow very much then it looks like shit and everyone judges you.
3. Lawn mowing is pretty freaking dangerous for a household vanity activity.
4. Even if you manage to make your lawn look good, it will manage to look like 10 different yards in the neighborhood and provide little to no individuality.

 :doge

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« Reply #37538 on: August 19, 2019, 01:29:21 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/do-you-ever-think-about-how-much-grass-landscape-sucks.135707/

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1. Uses a lot of water, if you don't use very much then it looks like shit and everyone judges you. Major water waste area here.
2. Produces a lot of CO2 because of lawn mowing. And if you don't mow very much then it looks like shit and everyone judges you.
3. Lawn mowing is pretty freaking dangerous for a household vanity activity.
4. Even if you manage to make your lawn look good, it will manage to look like 10 different yards in the neighborhood and provide little to no individuality.

 :doge

As someone who lives in western PA I have never once put water on my lawn for the love of god I wish the sky would stop putting water on my lawn

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« Reply #37539 on: August 19, 2019, 01:30:28 PM »

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« Reply #37540 on: August 19, 2019, 01:33:37 PM »
console war by proxy

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I get it, games like Ooblets are Syria, Steam and EGS are Russia and America, gamers are barely coherent terrorist organizations being paid in weaponry to fight.

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« Reply #37541 on: August 19, 2019, 01:33:42 PM »
We've witnessed the birth of the "No True PC Gamer" fallacy

I don't know what to say if you don't think eras interest skew NA single player console games :trumps

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« Reply #37542 on: August 19, 2019, 01:42:52 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/do-you-ever-think-about-how-much-grass-landscape-sucks.135707/

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1. Uses a lot of water, if you don't use very much then it looks like shit and everyone judges you. Major water waste area here.
2. Produces a lot of CO2 because of lawn mowing. And if you don't mow very much then it looks like shit and everyone judges you.
3. Lawn mowing is pretty freaking dangerous for a household vanity activity.
4. Even if you manage to make your lawn look good, it will manage to look like 10 different yards in the neighborhood and provide little to no individuality.

 :doge

As someone who lives in western PA I have never once put water on my lawn for the love of god I wish the sky would stop putting water on my lawn

Hasn't been a full 7 days since I last cut and it's already coming back thanks to it raining practically every day last week  >:(

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« Reply #37543 on: August 19, 2019, 01:46:42 PM »
Even our elders think Steam is outdated.

https://www.seniorforums.com/threads/steam-convoy.11944/
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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #37544 on: August 19, 2019, 01:50:34 PM »
Even our elders think Steam is outdated.

https://www.seniorforums.com/threads/steam-convoy.11944/

"Thanks Ken, they look like a sort of dinosaur walking in a scene out of context"

Truer words have never been written about Steam

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #37545 on: August 19, 2019, 01:54:29 PM »
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« Reply #37546 on: August 19, 2019, 01:54:53 PM »
So now they're mining the game easter eggs to keep that Ion bonfire going. :lol

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This is heart breaking. So much promise. Fuck bigots till the end of time. Fuck lecturing/teaching/goodwill/goodfaith conversing with them. Scrape them out your life and society and exile them, reward decent people with a shred humanity instead.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ion-fury-devs-show-signs-of-transphobia-among-other-issues-update-threadmark-full-context-of-conversation.135368/post-23710962

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ion-fury-devs-show-signs-of-transphobia-among-other-issues-update-threadmark-full-context-of-conversation.135368/post-23711537

hopefully one of them can enable noclip and comb through every last inch of that game in the name of justice

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Ahem.

As an aside, I read the noclip cheat in John Inman’s voice. Hmmm.

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« Reply #37547 on: August 19, 2019, 01:55:17 PM »
I do think that it's probably the biggest issue with the store now that theyve put in cloud saving, and if I was affected I'd be mad as fuck. I just know that I mostly speak about this issue with americans/english speakers/people in unaffected territories, and it strikes me as embracing a fringe issue just to make one's more personal problems with EGS seem valid.

there's a laundry list of complaints about the EGS; again, I really cba to go through them all to persuade you why "just a strefront bro" is an awful, uninformed take.
the fact they don't do regional payments is just one of the many actual lies that have been told;
"70/30 split is terrible, nobody deserves that cut, we'll do 88/12"
"Why don't you support regional payments?"
"oh, well we can't afford to at an 88/12 split, so we pass those costs onto customers at checkout"

I don't give a shit about the development split or any behind the scenes stuff, or even their fucking PR. I approach this strictly from the point of view of the consumer that is interested in the exclusive games on offer. That's why the supposed "laundry list" comes off as pointless posturing, because as far as I can tell I can purchase and play video games using this service.

Unless it actually prevents me from making a purchase (like the regional currency issues) at the end of the day it's just a clunky, shitty store launcher to purchase games on. And i've purchased my fair share of games from clunky, shitty launchers in the past decade because I game pretty heavily on PC.

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #37548 on: August 19, 2019, 01:55:49 PM »
Big fan of RGP games.

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #37549 on: August 19, 2019, 01:56:12 PM »
The fuck does this have to do with anything?

The games are getting more exposure;  not just to console warriors on Era, but to gamers as a whole.   Whether that creates more sales, offsets other negatives, etc. can't really be determined. 

It's about demographics.
If you're the type of person that buys indie titles day one, you're aware of those indie titles before the likes of ign pick up on a controversy.
Epic are specifically using SteamSpy to find the titles that are mostly highly wishlisted by steam users. The people most likely to buy those titles day one know of those titles. They've already wishlisted those titles.

"Now I've heard about it because there was controversy on era" doesn't equate to sales any more than "I play Fortnite every night, so I definitely want to build my gaming library through my Fortnite laucnher" does.
Fuck, if Epic can't even sell Unreal Tournament or Paragon to FortNite owners, how the fuck is it going to sell them a Phoenix Point or a Rebel Galaxy?

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #37551 on: August 19, 2019, 02:04:19 PM »
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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #37553 on: August 19, 2019, 02:04:49 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/if-you-could-choose-to-be-born-anywhere-on-earth-but-could-not-choose-the-point-in-history-where-would-you-choose.135848/

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If I can’t choose the time, I’ll go with Mexico

As a Puerto Rican it’s the only place I could fit in any point in time. This question seems very limited for non-whites

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Oi Oi

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #37554 on: August 19, 2019, 02:07:07 PM »
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Eyyyy some good came of this. Now all they have to do is follow through and all will be forgiven as long is actual change is happening. We should probably pay attention to the discord for a few days just to make sure they don't relapse and this is an inauthentic apology.

:mike

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #37555 on: August 19, 2019, 02:07:13 PM »

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« Reply #37556 on: August 19, 2019, 02:15:34 PM »
Oh, the brianna wu marketing strategy

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« Reply #37557 on: August 19, 2019, 02:28:56 PM »
Sage: Don't bother with riotious. He's a Chinese Spyware shill. :doge


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