River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible

[marrec]

Runaways on Hulu will be getting at least three seasons, which isn't too bad.

The first and third seasons of Daredevil were damn good and certainly better than most of the movies. Second season had lots going on and a bit jumbled but still pretty good. Jon Bernthal as Punisher and Vincent D'Onofrio as Kingpin was some  tier casting.

I was being a bit hyperbolic, Bernthal and D'onofrio were great, but the dude they actually got to play Daredevil was painfully boring.

Season 1 of Jessica Jones was a really good adaptation of a really good comic and it all fell apart after that because there is only one good Jessica Jones story.

The rest is mediocre to bad though, with Iron Fist being a special kind of awful.

I think the lessons learned here should be that you can't build a Cinematic Universe(tm) on TV like you can via movies... unless you just embrace the goofy nature of comic books like CW does with Arrowverse.

[porkbun]

The Marvel shows on Netflix aren't necessarily bad because of the characters and/or actors.  It's because -- like most Netflix shows -- they are too fucking long.  Captain America, Thor, Iron Man, etc. managed to get their origin stories told in two hours, there's no reason minor characters like Jessica Jones and Iron Fist need 13 fucking hours to do the same.

[thetylerrob]

I can't wait to go see "Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings" with the whole family.

 

[marrec]

I bet it makes more than Ant-Man

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

yeah, see the problem with your arguments against the netflix mcu tv shows, is that you're literally just saying "well I didn't like them".

Nobody has viewing numbers on netflix stuff outside of netflix. You have zero clue what kind of numbers they were pulling in.

But if you seriously want to make a case that Sabrina The Edgelord Witch has more name recognition and built in fanbase than The Punisher does, and that these properties were killed off by sad dad netflix, not house cleaning reappropriations committee marvel.... I don't know what to tell you.

[porkbun]

I'm a little hyped for Shang-Chi because of Tony Leung's involvement.

 

[marrec]

yeah, see the problem with your arguments against the netflix mcu tv shows, is that you're literally just saying "well I didn't like them".

Nobody has viewing numbers on netflix stuff outside of netflix. You have zero clue what kind of numbers they were pulling in.

But if you seriously want to make a case that Sabrina The Edgelord Witch has more name recognition and built in fanbase than The Punisher does, and that these properties were killed off by sad dad netflix, not house cleaning reappropriations committee marvel.... I don't know what to tell you.

Listen, I understand you liked the shows but they were bad and they were ended BECAUSE they were bad. If they were doing numbers then Netflix and Marvel would have been more than happy to continue their relationship.

Also, Sabrina the Teenage Witch ABSOLUTELY has more name recognition and a larger fanbase than The Punisher, a D-tier hero who's mostly known not for his comic books but for a few bad movies and having his logo appropriated by fashy cops.

[Ghoul]

sabrina is woke, no edge lord I think??? By that assumption birdbox is the best movie.

Netflix dropped that at the right time for bored housewives over christmas to be like "hey gang let's watch a scary movie"

[Raist]

Isn't the use of photo ID contrary to the tenant of anonymous voting?

That seems fucked up...like it was taken right out of China

It's not a practical issue, it's one of principles.

[marrec]

I mean, who among these studios actually cares about quality over viewership and name recognition? That's sort of what this whole debacle is about, Marvel movies are just assembly line popcorn affairs that are easy and fun to watch but ERA seems to get upset about these facts whenever Scorsese is the one saying it.

Marvel TV shows don't even rise to the "easy and fun to watch" level.

[VomKriege]

Heh I think the Punisher has more recognition than that. He's no Spiderman and his popularity predates the films.

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

yeah, see the problem with your arguments against the netflix mcu tv shows, is that you're literally just saying "well I didn't like them".

Nobody has viewing numbers on netflix stuff outside of netflix. You have zero clue what kind of numbers they were pulling in.

But if you seriously want to make a case that Sabrina The Edgelord Witch has more name recognition and built in fanbase than The Punisher does, and that these properties were killed off by sad dad netflix, not house cleaning reappropriations committee marvel.... I don't know what to tell you.

Listen, I understand you liked the shows but they were bad and they were ended BECAUSE they were bad. If they were doing numbers then Netflix and Marvel would have been more than happy to continue their relationship.

Also, Sabrina the Teenage Witch ABSOLUTELY has more name recognition and a larger fanbase than The Punisher, a D-tier hero who's mostly known not for his comic books but for a few bad movies and having his logo appropriated by fashy cops.

Netflix are a licencee.
It doesn't matter how fucking ecstatic they are with something if they're not making it, and don't own any rights except to broadcast.

If Marvel hadn't internally restructured to put all for broadcast properties under the helm of the film division, as part of its move towards making its own streaming service, netflix would have happily continued paying those broadcast fees in perpetuity. They are known properties and they attracted subscribers.

I don't really see how anyone can look at what happened and come to the conclusion "oh, netflix canned them cos they suck!"   

Sabrina as in the fucking Archie comic has broader recognition. If only through the age of the IP.
Dark edgy reboot about stealing penises and making literal deals with the devil ain't something that going to attract a subscriber going "Oh, hey, I know sabrina, I read those as a kid... oh my!"

[Uncle]

also all the 7-11s here are being renamed to KD or some shit. It's weird as fuck and people here are HEATED about both things

We lost 7-11's here back in the 90s.

Still miss Slurpees - Icees are a pale imitation

 

it is shocking how different crushed ice frozen beverages can be

like fair food shaved is weird shit and you drink out all the flavoring no matter what you do and are left with a pile of shards of ice

dairy queen misty slush is like too large of ice bits

both slurpees and icees are on the better end of the spectrum I think

[BisMarckie]

I can't wait to see the reactions on REEE when Marvel phase 4  bombs. Have you seen those upcoming movies? No one outside of the freaks and geeks is going to see that shit.

I hate to be this guy, but Guardians of the Galaxy made 770m. I have no doubt an Eternals movie will move numbers as long as they get the right people on the marketing team.

lol, I don’t even know what Guardians of the Galaxy is, you fucking nerd.

[Potato]

I can't wait to see the reactions on REEE when Marvel phase 4  bombs. Have you seen those upcoming movies? No one outside of the freaks and geeks is going to see that shit.

That's what they said about the Marvel films prior to being made.
Comic books were sort of bottom of the barrel entertainment and comic book movies below that.

It didn't take off until RDJ did Iron Man.

And RDJ is no longer iron man.

My opinion is based on me being the mainstream target market for these films being that I like blockbusters, I'm a little bit geeky and I like going to the cinema.

I walked out of Endgame satisfied and a little bit relieved that it was all over. I also distinctly remember feeling like having this weight lifted off my shoulders that I now no longer HAD to go see the latest MCU film for fear of being out of the loop.

I mean, I felt a slight anxiety at not having seen Captain Marvel and worrying that there would be important story information that would mean i wouldn't be able to follow what was happening in Endgame.

My completely amateur prediction is that a huge chunk of the moviegoing public feels the same way and these films are going to see a definite downwards trend. Obviously not to the point that they are irrelevant, but enough that we won't be seeing anywhere near the same box office performance.

[marrec]

Heh I think the Punisher has more recognition than that. He's no Spiderman and his popularity predates the films.

I mean, Thor's popularity predates his films as well but it's a relative level of popularity you know?

[Potato]

The Marvel shows on Netflix aren't necessarily bad because of the characters and/or actors.  It's because -- like most Netflix shows -- they are too fucking long.  Captain America, Thor, Iron Man, etc. managed to get their origin stories told in two hours, there's no reason minor characters like Jessica Jones and Iron Fist need 13 fucking hours to do the same.

Spot on.

[Uncle]

Isn't the use of photo ID contrary to the tenant of anonymous voting?

That seems fucked up...like it was taken right out of China

It's not a practical issue, it's one of principles.

https://theessayexpert.com/writing-tips-tenet-vs-tenant-and-obamas-tucson-speech/

[Chim Richalds]

yeah, see the problem with your arguments against the netflix mcu tv shows, is that you're literally just saying "well I didn't like them".

Nobody has viewing numbers on netflix stuff outside of netflix. You have zero clue what kind of numbers they were pulling in.

But if you seriously want to make a case that Sabrina The Edgelord Witch has more name recognition and built in fanbase than The Punisher does, and that these properties were killed off by sad dad netflix, not house cleaning reappropriations committee marvel.... I don't know what to tell you.

Listen, I understand you liked the shows but they were bad and they were ended BECAUSE they were bad. If they were doing numbers then Netflix and Marvel would have been more than happy to continue their relationship.

Also, Sabrina the Teenage Witch ABSOLUTELY has more name recognition and a larger fanbase than The Punisher, a D-tier hero who's mostly known not for his comic books but for a few bad movies and having his logo appropriated by fashy cops.

Netflix are a licencee.
It doesn't matter how fucking ecstatic they are with something if they're not making it, and don't own any rights except to broadcast.

If Marvel hadn't internally restructured to put all for broadcast properties under the helm of the film division, as part of its move towards making its own streaming service, netflix would have happily continued paying those broadcast fees in perpetuity. They are known properties and they attracted subscribers.

I don't really see how anyone can look at what happened and come to the conclusion "oh, netflix canned them cos they suck!"   

Sabrina as in the fucking Archie comic has broader recognition. If only through the age of the IP.
Dark edgy reboot about stealing penises and making literal deals with the devil ain't something that going to attract a subscriber going "Oh, hey, I know sabrina, I read those as a kid... oh my!"

[Uncle]

I always get Buffy the Teenage Witch and Sabrina the Vampire Slayer mixed up for some reason

fucking tweens and their magic shit

[Rman]

Regarding the Hawkeye news, how stupid is ERA to take allegations in divorce proceedings at face value? The naivete of that forum never ceases to amaze.

Divorce lawyers are scums of the earth and cosign all this stuff in bitter custody fights.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/jeremy-renner-accused-by-ex-wife-of-threatening-to-kill-her.147039/

[benita]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/paedophile-richard-huckle-murdered-in-prison.146946/post-25444373

I don't think this argument is going to be very productive and I don't want to derail the thread so I'm going to drop the conversation, but suffice to say that my post wasn't about "tut-tutting" posters here but contributing to a moral perspective other than what the general consensus has offered at this point.

AKA you got me, so I'm gonna dip.

 

[NekoFever]

Admittedly I don't know much about Shang-Chi, but are his powers essentially that he's really good at kung fu?

Really breaking boundaries there for Marvel's first Asian superhero.

[Uncle]

Admittedly I don't know much about Shang-Chi, but are his powers essentially that he's really good at kung fu?

Really breaking boundaries there for Marvel's first Asian superhero.

the only question that matters is, is this what papa China wants to be seen on the big screen

[james]

I can't wait to see the reactions on REEE when Marvel phase 4  bombs. Have you seen those upcoming movies? No one outside of the freaks and geeks is going to see that shit.

I hate to be this guy, but Guardians of the Galaxy made 770m. I have no doubt an Eternals movie will move numbers as long as they get the right people on the marketing team.

On the flip side, Marvels Netflix and Hulu shows all bombed

Well, lots of reasons for that, mostly poor writing and Netflix not wanting to carry anything but pure winners. If Daredevil was on NBC it would probably have gotten as many seasons as Agents of Shield, another mediocre show about superheroes who don't interact with Marvel Heroes.

Shield was a commercial bomba.

It only stayed alive because Disney owns ABC and Marvel

[Nintex]

UPDATED 4:40 p.m. ET: Legal documents filed by Jeremy Renner dispute allegations from his ex-wife, Sonni Pacheco, and level new claims back at her. Renner says he doesn’t have substance abuse issues but Pacheco does, and that her time with their daughter Ava should be limited. TMZ reports the Marvel actor “even states he submitted to random drug testing for 3 months to defeat Sonni's claims" and "hired a mental health specialist to monitor his visits with Ava to prove he was both sober and a capable parent.”

[Lonewulfeus]

Jeremy Renner might have the craziest year of any celebrity. Started out being in the biggest movie of all time, became a summer punchline because of his insane app & music career, and now he's probably going to be cancelled.

 

[Nintex]

What do you mean am I high, I always wear my coat during interviews.

[Rman]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/has-reading-era-off-topic-made-you-a-more-intelligent-person.147060/

Obvious troll thread lol.

[Lonewulfeus]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/jeremy-renner-accused-by-ex-wife-of-threatening-to-kill-her.147039/page-2#post-25444187

After that update from Renners side I think I'm just gonna stand back and see how this shakes out because it seems like there's a lot to unpack here

Weird that this isn't the initial thing people do.

Who would just read a thread title and then post without doing any critical thinking?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/infowars-legal-team-turns-over-emails-some-containing-child-abuse-images-sent-to-jones-to-sandy-hook-families-lawyers-as-part-of-lawsuit.123967/#post-21978657

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha he's finally going to jail and we all know how child predators are treated hhahahahahahahahahaha what a fucking idiot

Oh right, you would.

 

[Lonewulfeus]

What do you mean am I high, I always wear my coat during interviews.
(Image removed from quote.)

Maybe he has body image issues and his coat helps him hide his fat. 

[Raist]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/fort-worth-pd-press-conference-on-killing-of-atatiana-jefferson-officer-off-the-force-under-criminal-investigation-no-defense-of-police-action.147016/


I'm sure reetahters will be glad that shit is immediately hitting the fan for this officer.

*reads thread*


lolz.

[nudemacusers]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/paedophile-richard-huckle-murdered-in-prison.146946/post-25444373

I don't think this argument is going to be very productive and I don't want to derail the thread so I'm going to drop the conversation, but suffice to say that my post wasn't about "tut-tutting" posters here but contributing to a moral perspective other than what the general consensus has offered at this point.

AKA you got me, so I'm gonna dip.

 

Someone had to take Opiate’s mantle as the resident “rational pedo debate” Marshall.

[clothedmacuser]

https://twitter.com/cushbomb/status/1180189025245773825

https://www.resetera.com/threads/martin-scorsese-clarifies-his-marvel-movies-comments-%E2%80%98there-is-only-one-spielberg-lucas.146751/post-25421958

Welp, I guess people who find Scorce's statements unfair and a tad gatekeep-y are Nazis now, pack it in boys, the Anti-MCU crowd has reached their biggest low yet.

Sad to see that movie discourse on Era has reached this sort of level, but I guess some people just gotta feel good about their superior Cinema/Kino no matter the cost.

I wonder what pretentious crap should i be watching so that i can avoid being compared to MAGA dudes, just for liking some marvel movies.

Film snobs are the fucking worst.

I don't think you would be banned for saying Nintendo games are formulaic... but you would probably be banned for comparing Nintendo fans to white supremacists.

It's honestly pretty disturbing how many on the last page saw nothing wrong with that comparison. I'm not even that big of an MCU fan these days but it's really not a hill to die on.

Exactly. Not to mention even trying to imply the levels of self righteousness and hatred that the MAGA camp subscribes to in their self-victimization.

User Banned (5 Days): Defending an inflammatory point of comparison over multiple posts

Then you're seriously missing something. If a comparison invokes something so politically charged, you're more or less bringing all that with it. No one is gonna read an image like this and go "Ha ha, it's funny because they're both over-sensitive", they're going to think that the two groups share values in the eyes of whomever created it.

Well it appears we have a different sense of humour I guess. It's a silly meme making fun of sensitivity within groups. One of the punchlines is the oversensitivity of MAGA people so I am not sure why I am being accused of racism lol.

Is this now a Sensitive Thread™?
 

That's the best display of the law of Era.  Get butthurt, claim you aren't, "why don't you just call me a ______, you clearly want to, get them banned.

[Boredfrom]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/hillary-clinton-says-we-must-be-‘sensitive’-to-transphobia.147072/

 

[stufte]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/hillary-clinton-says-we-must-be-‘sensitive’-to-transphobia.147072/

 

Oh shit, Hilldawg cancelled??

[Cauliflower Of Love]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/hillary-clinton-says-we-must-be-‘sensitive’-to-transphobia.147072/

 

She's still coming to terms with Bill and the blue dress.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

I'd be interested in ready the whole interview transcript, since this is parsed twice(three) times already?

Also this title?

The former First Daughter

Like, why is that even being used.

[Boredfrom]

Resetera is a TERF wet dream.

[Boredfrom]

I think those differences in life experiences can be shared and acknowledged without using them to gatekeep womanhood or restrooms. But they're more often used as a divide rather than as a bridge. Hilary had an opportunity to learn something here but it seems like she just dug her heels in. 

 

[clothedmacuser]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/don%E2%80%99t-be-afraid-to-call-out-shitty-americans-abroad.146960/post-25433289

How did you manage to turn to the woman with your head fully inserted in your ass?

Imagine if Excel or RedMercury made this thread.  There would be a Era genocide.

[Boredfrom]

. how are you still learning about this 3 years after you were supoposed to be elected. 

 

[Uncle]

"you have absolutely no idea what it's like to be me" apparently only applies to some kinds of people

[Boredfrom]

So she's uncomfortable being in a bathroom with a trans woman, but not uncomfortable getting into bed with her serial sexual harasser husband every night? 

 

[Joe Molotov]

Gatekeeping is a cool word and not overused at all. Whenever someone doesn't like the same action figure commercials that you do, just accuse them of gatekeeping. If someone has a different opinion on any topic, that's gatekeeping.

[VomKriege]

Gatekeeping is a cool word and not overused at all. Whenever someone doesn't like the same action figure commercials that you do, just accuse them of gatekeeping. If someone has a different opinion on any topic, that's gatekeeping.

Stop gatekeeping the gatekeeping definition breh 

[thetylerrob]

It's so weird that they get triggered at women for pointing out that growing up as a woman is different than growing up as a male until you can transition.

[Uncle]

Gatekeeping is a cool word and not overused at all. Whenever someone doesn't like the same action figure commercials that you do, just accuse them of gatekeeping. If someone has a different opinion on any topic, that's gatekeeping.

gatekeeping is not as cool a word as normalizing

any time there's anything you dislike or don't agree with for any reason, just claim that it normalizes that thing which only emboldens those who support it, allowing them to take it a step further next time

this is absolutely not the same thing as a slippery slope argument

don't like how the whole blizzard protest thing is going?  say it normalizes sinophobia and makes people comfortable with the idea of criticizing the chinese which will lead to worse offenses down the line

want to take joker down a peg for glorious House of MCU?  obviously it normalizes negative portrayals of mental illness

 

[Uncle]

scrambling desperately for an out like "w-well scorsese said in this one interview he considers godfather to be true cinema, and clearly I was referencing that and disagreeing with him I didn't think he MADE the film heh"

[Cauliflower Of Love]

So she's uncomfortable being in a bathroom with a trans woman, but not uncomfortable getting into bed with her serial sexual harasser husband every night? 

 

Imagine thinking hillary slept in the same bed as bill

[HaughtyFrank]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/hillary-clinton-says-we-must-be-‘sensitive’-to-transphobia.147072/

 

Woah, really dodged a bullet by electing Trump

[james]

Let's see how the idiots at poliera are handling the Hillary news

.... And it's 6 pages of bashing Bernard

[clothedmacuser]

It's so weird that they get triggered at women for pointing out that growing up as a woman is different than growing up as a male until you can transition.

I don't understand how this is still a thing.  Gay men and straight men are both men but they clearly have different experiences.  It's basically saying "I don't see gender.  Everyone is the same."  That's what liberals would say all during the 80's and 90's.  At some point saying black and white people are the same got under the skin of black people and they had to say, "hold up.  Yes we are both equal as humans but your cracker ass doesn't know the shit I have to go through."

Trans women had to go through more shit but acknowledging that truth is wrong somehow.

[Uncle]

Trans women had to go through more shit but acknowledging that truth is wrong somehow.

it's not a contest of who goes through more

trans women didn't have a traumatic morning when they woke up covered in blood and their mothers had to give them The Talk

nor did they get any The Talks about how to avoid dangerous situations with men, how you have to be careful traveling anywhere alone, or growing up with anxiety that maybe people only really want you for your body and what will happen when someday your looks fade

the pressure to bear children, the monthly hormone imbalances, all of that shit

I'm not saying it's more or less, I'm saying it's different and all adds up to wildly different

[Averon]

Let's see how the idiots at poliera are handling the Hillary news

.... And it's 6 pages of bashing Bernard

Seeing Kirblar desperately trying to defend Hilary in that thread is 

[Cauliflower Of Love]

wow kirblar showing up to show some reading comprehension.

[ShutUp]

The Marvel shows on Netflix aren't necessarily bad because of the characters and/or actors.  It's because -- like most Netflix shows -- they are too fucking long.  Captain America, Thor, Iron Man, etc. managed to get their origin stories told in two hours, there's no reason minor characters like Jessica Jones and Iron Fist need 13 fucking hours to do the same.

Spot on.

I mean Thor and those mentioned were structured like a movie. Of course it had to be told within a two hour time frame. Would have been structured like the Netflix shows had they went the TV route with the characters mentioned.

And the shows still got at the least decent reviews all the way up to excellent reviews, with viewers liking the shows too. Whining about TV shows being structured like all TV shows is some quality  tier complaining.

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/Hecht_ERA_/status/1182888699119292417

 

[shosta]

caption this

[Lonewulfeus]

caption this

How shosta’s gender feels like today