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YANG GANG 2020
« on: March 11, 2019, 09:08:52 PM »
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« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2019, 09:17:14 PM »
Imma download Bloodborne in celebration. Every demon I kill will be done with a deep held intention to destroy social injustices wherever they lurk
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« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2019, 09:23:30 PM »
https://twitter.com/AYYTEE1904/status/1104432819479048192

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« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2019, 09:25:21 PM »
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« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2019, 10:13:35 PM »
This guy has no chance. :lol
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« Reply #9 on: March 12, 2019, 04:19:40 AM »
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« Reply #10 on: March 12, 2019, 09:07:49 AM »
So, if all the illegal immigrants don't have access to UBI, and all UBI is going to do is create a new normed increase to the cost of goods and services....


....did we just build the wall?

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« Reply #11 on: March 12, 2019, 10:10:15 AM »
You know how I know Andrew Yang is a good person?

He started out as a corporate lawyer and didn't last a year before giving it up and never looking back.


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« Reply #12 on: March 12, 2019, 10:13:11 AM »
the worst thing that has happened to politics in recent memory is the relentlessly awful memes
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« Reply #13 on: March 12, 2019, 03:08:43 PM »
Andrew Yang is a great candidate. He's authentic, he has good policy ideas and he doesn't jump on the social justice controversy of the week.
Plus he's not 70+ years old.

He also knows how to get attention. Most other candidates (even Bernie) are barely visible at this point. The YangGang is already everywhere.
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« Reply #14 on: March 12, 2019, 03:21:10 PM »
Plus I bet he owned a Genesis.

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« Reply #15 on: March 12, 2019, 03:50:35 PM »
Yang is useful for bringing UBI into the discussion but weirdly Richard Spencer and a lot of other subhumans RT him on the reg.

Personally, I'm feeling the Buttmentum.

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« Reply #17 on: March 12, 2019, 04:02:31 PM »
Andrew Yang is a great candidate. He's authentic, he has good policy ideas and he doesn't jump on the social justice controversy of the week.
Plus he's not 70+ years old.

He also knows how to get attention. Most other candidates (even Bernie) are barely visible at this point. The YangGang is already everywhere.


Edit: Meh
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« Reply #18 on: March 12, 2019, 04:10:28 PM »
It's important to tell people the reality that those truck drivers... who had their jobs replaced by automation
At least they aren't out there turning more people into conservatives with their bad driving.
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« Reply #19 on: March 12, 2019, 04:20:55 PM »
I like how he retweets daily:

"Don't let them distract you, focus on the money"

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« Reply #23 on: March 12, 2019, 10:40:50 PM »
as a number of media outlets pointed out, he qualified for the debates by using the nasty and sneaky underhanded method of following the rules

https://www.thedailybeast.com/how-little-known-andrew-yang-may-end-up-on-the-2020-debate-stage-by-gaming-the-system
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How Little Known Andrew Yang May End Up on the 2020 Debate Stage by Gaming the System
You’ve probably never heard of him. And yet, he’s about to bust through the DNC’s debate entry threshold.

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Andrew Yang has been a Democratic presidential candidate for well over a year. But chances are, you’ve never heard of him. He’s not a lawmaker. He has just over 90,000 Twitter followers. As of Dec. 31, 2018, his campaign committee had $38,730.78 cash on hand. He’s spent a grand total of $33,000 on Facebook ads. And has not run a single TV ad.

And yet, the self-proclaimed “entrepreneur who understands the economy” has somehow managed to get more than 47,000 individual donors to his campaign as of Wednesday night. It’s a figure that’s caught the attention of Democrats on other campaigns. But, more importantly, it’s one that places Yang close to a critical threshold. If that number rises to 65,000 over the next two months, he will qualify to participate in the first primary debate.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/06/2020-democrat-debates-yang-williamson-1208255
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Dem long shots crash 2020 debate stage
Andrew Yang and Marianne Williamson, who have never held public office, could qualify for the first Democratic primary debate.

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Under newly crafted rules, two little-known candidates with no governmental experience are poised to qualify for the first debate later this year. The extraordinary shift from past campaigns will squeeze the amount of time on stage for candidates looking to the debates for breakout campaign moments. And it will force the senators and governors — and maybe even a former vice president — running for president to contend with and respond to the outsiders’ ideas on national TV.

Andrew Yang and Marianne Williamson, a pair of little-known 2020 contenders, both say they are on track to meet the grassroots donation threshold set by the DNC to get into the first debate in June. They’d join Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson, both African-American ministers and civil rights activists, as the only non-elected officials to make the first Democratic presidential debate in the past 40 years.
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« Reply #30 on: March 13, 2019, 06:49:06 AM »
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Probably not.

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« Reply #31 on: March 13, 2019, 07:49:00 AM »
Ron Paul - Trump - Yang

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« Reply #32 on: March 13, 2019, 02:47:20 PM »
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Probably not.
The point isn't to win. It's to move UBI into the mainstream again.

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« Reply #33 on: March 13, 2019, 02:49:31 PM »
Oppa Yang gang style? :thinking

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My mother explained the magic with this machine the very, very first day. She said, “Now Hans, we have loaded the laundry; the machine will make the work. And now we can go to the library.” Because this is the magic: you load the laundry, and what do you get out of the machine? You get books out of the machines, children’s books. And mother got time to read for me. She loved this. I got the “ABC.” This is where I started my career as a professor, when my mother had time to read for me. And she also got books for herself. She managed to study English and learn that as a foreign language. And she read so many novels, so many different novels here. And we really, we really loved this machine. And what we said, my mother and me, “Thank you industrialization. Thank you steel mill. Thank you power station. And thank you chemical processing industry that gave us time to read books.”
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« Reply #42 on: March 14, 2019, 03:40:25 PM »
I think Yang should change his messaging. You gotta go for shock and awe.

People can't do math. Don't say $1k a month, say $12k a year. Say $24k a year for two parent households. If people are worried that their money is being taxed and then given back to them, say that your family always comes out net positive until you spend over $240k a year. It's a wealth transfer from untaxed corporate transactions to the 95%.

Stress the radical change that's within our grasp. No more poverty. Practically no more homelessness (there's not much you can do for crazies, but most homeless are locked in a vicious cycle of circumstance). No more coming out of jail and having nothing left to start over with. No more getting coerced to do a wage slave job because you're afraid of eviction. It's the greatest general strike fund in human history.

Scare people with the future. Cause a panic. 30% of jobs at risk from technological gains in the next ten to twenty years. That's the low end estimate from every source I can find. Retraining programs don't work: 0% to 20% success rate with only 10% of displaced workers qualifying. 50 year old truck drivers are not going to learn to code. Retail workers, clerks, accountants, fast food workers, waiters, sales, you're all fucked. Show them this picture:
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What are you waiting for? Get that bag.
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« Reply #43 on: March 14, 2019, 04:46:27 PM »
Because of his ability to breach the left/right divide, Yang has much more appeal in the general than in the primary - assuming the cold day in hell that he'd make it there.  Curious as to how frontrunners -- particularly Bernie, will frame their opposition to UBI.  If Yang's popularity increases and UBI actually enters mainstream discourse, he'll need a convincing opposition strategy ..but I can't see Bernie actually disagreeing with UBI.   Yet, waffling on that could be a big problem for him.

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« Reply #44 on: March 14, 2019, 05:00:08 PM »
What's good about Yang is that unlike others who explained UBI before, he's able to do it with just a few sentences.
He has an answer to all the 'critical' questions and he can back up his claims with real world examples.

Also $1000 a/month sounds better than $12k a year because it sounds more realistic and most people look at their monthly paycheck and budget.
He always says: "Just think about what you could do with another $1000 in your pocket". With $12k you start thinking complicated stuff or you head into the Romney big figures "$100k bet" terroritory.
With $1k it's more like "Yay more parties, some nice new shoes, a few games and save a bit for the summer holiday". It is much easier to spend $1000 in your head than it is to spend $12k.

You either have the make the sum bigger than anyone imagines (BILLIONS AND BILLIONS like Trump does) or you have to keep it 'real' (thousand dollars a month).
Also note how Yang always uses 'Thousand' and 'Freedom Dividend'. Because no one wants a 'basic' income of 'One'.

If his messages resonates at the debates and he doesn't bomb or isn't tricked he will shoot straight to the top of the polls and stay there until election day.
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« Reply #45 on: March 14, 2019, 05:09:23 PM »
People can't do math. Don't say $1k a month, say $12k a year. Say $24k a year for two parent households.
That's why the nice round $1,000 a month is better. If the yearly total worked out to to some other round figure like $20,000 then that would be different. The rounder your figure the better it performs in hypotheticals. If another candidate comes out and says $1138 a month because they've legitimately crunched the numbers using some think tank type deal the actual figure won't be remembered as much as Yang's simpler and rounder figure even though it's objectively lower and arguably more arbitrary. That candidate would expend far more resources to sell their message while also looking like they're just trying to one-up him.

The Fair Tax polled well when it was nice round hypotheticals and averages, when candidates actually tried to run on the crunched figures and had to explain the confusing rebate system that would be different for everyone, support plummeted. Gary Johnson eventually gave up on it because it led to too many people coming up with questions for things already answered. He hadn't had that problem when he was just running around using a hypothetical version of it, everyone was loving it.

The others who will try to clip off some UBI stuff are mostly all regular politicians and will run into this as they try to craft it into actual policy. You're already seeing it as candidates who are "trying to be serious" like Copmala futz around with Medicare For All in a more traditional "writing legislation/policy" way versus being a goal. People take it as less sincere, while others don't like "their version" as much even though it's only different around the edges, etc.
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« Reply #46 on: March 14, 2019, 05:25:34 PM »
Ah, you guys are right.
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« Reply #47 on: March 14, 2019, 05:31:35 PM »
Most people don't know the poverty line though.

Also, to build off that monthly budgets, one thing they found on The Fair Tax was that talking about the rebate in yearly figures, even though it was given monthly, people would think they were getting paid once a year like Shaq used to do with his NBA contracts, instead of every other week or even monthly. So they thought about $9000 or whatever it was, getting it at the start of the year and having to survive the whole year on it. Even though nothing in the plan required this even for people who didn't get money any other way.

I'd like to add I was not a Fair Tax supporter, but I did pay attention to their failed attempt to sell the scheme to people who should have favored it first because that was pretty informative and real time.
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« Reply #48 on: March 14, 2019, 06:29:47 PM »
Because of his ability to breach the left/right divide, Yang has much more appeal in the general than in the primary - assuming the cold day in hell that he'd make it there.  Curious as to how frontrunners -- particularly Bernie, will frame their opposition to UBI.  If Yang's popularity increases and UBI actually enters mainstream discourse, he'll need a convincing opposition strategy ..but I can't see Bernie actually disagreeing with UBI.   Yet, waffling on that could be a big problem for him.

Sanders was pro UBI in 2013 and i imagine he still is.

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Would you support a bill for the establishment of our own unconditional basic income, and if so, have you even already considered sponsoring such a bill?

It does seem to be one of those rare ideas drawing support from both conservatives and liberals alike, and being that we stand to lose half of our jobs to automation within 20 years, it seems like an inevitable choice between technological unemployment causing great suffering or great liberation.

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« Reply #51 on: March 15, 2019, 07:51:10 PM »
is that mathcore?
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« Reply #54 on: March 16, 2019, 12:56:32 AM »
This is a big fucking crowd for a nobody.

https://twitter.com/AndrewYangVFA/status/1106767990320558080

EDIT2: It was over 3000 people!
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« Reply #57 on: March 17, 2019, 07:30:51 PM »
Democrats: "We can never win RED states. Abolish the electoral college!"
Trump: "FOX NEWS nEeDs BeTtAr ProGraMmIng"
Trump voters: "Wooohooo Build the wall"
TRUMP: "FaKE NeWs ThE WaLl is AlrEaDy BuIlt"
Trump voters: " :-\"
Yang: "Hey brehs, here's a $1000 a month instead. Use it to build your own wall or whatever"
Trump voters: " :wtf"

Trump when the results come in Election Night 2020:  ":'(  :-X  >:("

Planet: " :heart"
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« Reply #59 on: March 18, 2019, 01:55:32 AM »
shosta don't let your yangfluenza make you defend the dang electoral college. That would be Peterson and the red lipstick all over.