Final Fantasy VII Remake |OT| The Unknown Journey Will Continue

[Himu]

The Elmyra flashback in hd modern graphics

Aerith is my favorite FFVII character so I'm at seeing my girl just do damage in this game and all of her pivotal scenes with better graphics.

"Mommy don't be sad. Someone that you care about a lot was coming to see you but he has returned to the planet." My God I should have made a separate save file like back in the day to relive that scene.

[Great Rumbler]

I noticed that NPCs got reused sometimes, but I didn't care because it wasn't a big deal and didn't effect my enjoyment of the game.

[HardcoreRetro]

No "This guy are sick" line in this game. Awful.

7/10

[bork]

https://twitter.com/Fobwashed/status/1250931339072688129

[Mr Gilhaney]

Got to wall market. Cummy as cuck

[Raist]

I have no idea who you are responding to and refuse to click your spoiler.

Not to you or anyone else, otherwise I would have quoted someone.

And obviously you shouldn't read that spoiler no - that's why it's a spoiler 

[Raist]

Also can you not interact with npc's at all in the game?

There's like, a trillion of them.
You can "interact" with the majority of them, as in they will have a couple lines of dialogues if you stand next to them (no need to press a button). That's pretty much equivalent to every RPG ever.


In any case it's slightly amusing for you to point that stuff out when you're stanning so much for TW3

[demi]

Both Chapter 11 bosses on Hard Mode got me heated. But I won, moving on

[Himu]

HOLY SHIT

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Post sector 7 plate is blowing my fucking mind!!

[Himu]

They truly did the Evangelion Rebuild route and it's GLORIOUS

[Himu]

this is the most surprising cindi 180, I feel like this was aimed to target you personally

not gonna lie

??

180 from what and target me how

[Himu]

I was worried how they would treat it compare to the original but I've also said multiple times I'm fine with story changes so long as they're good (emphasis). Compilation offered nothing good or worth saving. It was a disaster.

I've said multiple times I'm down with changes. Cut out Cait Sith and stick with Reeve - Cait sucks balls. Kill Aerith earlier than expected to throw fans for a loop. It's a remake after all. Even REmake reshuffles, rearranged, and changes the story. Surprise me.

RahX and others wrongly assume I'm a purist. I'm not. I just want something GOOD (emphasis). You interpret my prior criticism towards any chance and really, it's change towards the worse. Given Genesis and Crisis Core, Advent Children, Dirge of Cerberus and the whole Hojo affair, the characterizations of Cloud and Aerith in Kingdom Hearts, there's far more evidence in my corner than anyone initially going into this with hype that this would be a shit show.

[Himu]

and its non-turn base nature

Game barely has arpg sensibilities like hit boxes lol. Hit an attack or ability and character will literally jet across the screen to use it. The combat is just an evolution on active battle combat. Nothing more. It's not turn based, but it's definitely time based and almost no different than previous FF battle system efforts. It's basically IV, X-2, XIII, and Valkyrie Profile 2 thrown into a blender. Unlike XV it's barely an action rpg and far more command based (emphasis).

I play FF on active mode fastest speed. Wait mode is for suckers. VII R's battle system is just a continuation of that once you get used to it.

[Himu]

It’s pretty much confirmed Cait is going to be in, I expect him to be to good though

Unfortunately a certain scene did confirm this.

I was very annoyed. God I hate that character.

[demi]

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I love the "twist" because it reminded me of Lost's "flash-forward" where they suddenly remember their other lives - the scene where Cloud sees Aeris dying and crying over it reminded me of it.

Red 13 says after seeing the cutscene post-OG ending and says "this is what happens if we fail" which is funny because they won in the end so Red's comment seems weird, or he misinterpreted it because (that) Red doesn't actually know what's going on in that scene.

It seems like only Aerith knows what's going on and being coy about it - probably knows she will die anyway

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[Cheddahz]

much rather only be able to talk to a few npcs who have unique dialogue and not every npc who recycle the same three lines over and over again

[Himu]

much rather only be able to talk to a few npcs who have unique dialogue and not every npc who recycle the same three lines over and over again

It also does the job. In FFVII you talk to the guy in sector 5 and he talks about avalanche and Shinra while watching the report on the Reactor 5 explosion. Here, you see people in sector 5 crowding around a massive tv. You hear tons of what people think of the situation and it's a very realized place. In VII og you have like two towns - one character talks about how she walks without looking on the ground and half of the npcs in the wall market concern themselves with Cloud's prior cross dressing and say nothing about the plate drop.

In terms of sheer atmosphere and variety of gathering how the locales feel about the events through out the game, FFVII Remake is superior.

[Positive Touch]

much rather only be able to talk to a few npcs who have unique dialogue and not every npc who recycle the same three lines over and over again

huh? i spent an hour in sector 7 walking around listening to all the conversations and each one was unique. and most of them got updated after story events. the amount of unique npc dialog has been insane so far.

[Himu]

much rather only be able to talk to a few npcs who have unique dialogue and not every npc who recycle the same three lines over and over again

huh? i spent an hour in sector 7 walking around listening to all the conversations and each one was unique. and most of them got updated after story events. the amount of unique npc dialog has been insane so far.

Cheddar is saying FF7R sounds more the former than the latter.

[Raist]

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I love the "twist" because it reminded me of Lost's "flash-forward" where they suddenly remember their other lives - the scene where Cloud sees Aeris dying and crying over it reminded me of it.

Red 13 says after seeing the cutscene post-OG ending and says "this is what happens if we fail" which is funny because they won in the end so Red's comment seems weird, or he misinterpreted it because (that) Red doesn't actually know what's going on in that scene.

It seems like only Aerith knows what's going on and being coy about it - probably knows she will die anyway

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Well the glimpses they get don't seem all that good so I guess it would be fair enough to make that mistake.

What I'm not sure about is them potentially introducing a 3rd timeline with Zack presumably surviving. That seems a bit much.

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[Joe Molotov]

10/10 GOTY 

[Svejk]

Finally hearing Under the Rotting Pizza remix.  Joy.. 

[demi]

Platinum finished. See you for the next one

[Himu]

Doing sidequests in Chapter 14, god what a good ass game.

So fun and satisfying.

Literally my only complaint is that I wanted to really have an openworld plate segment, but that's really minor.

Same.

My complaints:

- Roche. Wtf.
- Train Graveyard too long.
- Cait Sith tease during such an emotional, serious moment. God I hate that character.

[Himu]

This did open my mind to the possibilities of a 30 hour JRPG

Chrono trigger? Parasite Eve or Suikoden?

10-20 hour RPGs are extremely underrated.  The good news is that they often offer many reasons to replay.

I guess it's wrong to say short jrpgs are underrated. That is one element of them that's always praised. I guess the issue is that they're just not that common compared to RPGs that last 40-60.

[Himu]

FFVIIR offers multitudes of builds, options, and customization. There's more materia than you can possibly even equip which forces you to choose. FFVIIR, more than any single player FF since XII, realizes that the behind the mechanisms of FF the series, with few exceptions, is basically about choice and curating your own game experience in a limited, albeit rewarding, manner. Did a great job here.

[Positive Touch]

just got aerith. fuck me this game is so fun. no spoilers, but is the game fully linear or will there be a point before shinra tower (or whatever the endgame is) where i can go back to areas?

[Great Rumbler]

just got aerith. fuck me this game is so fun. no spoilers, but is the game fully linear or will there be a point before shinra tower (or whatever the endgame is) where i can go back to areas?

You can go back to all the slum areas [except Sector 7] before you head up to Shinra Tower.

[demi]

Yes to both

Just make sure you do all the green quests

[Cheddahz]

much rather only be able to talk to a few npcs who have unique dialogue and not every npc who recycle the same three lines over and over again

huh? i spent an hour in sector 7 walking around listening to all the conversations and each one was unique. and most of them got updated after story events. the amount of unique npc dialog has been insane so far.

I was saying it sounds more like the former than the latter (since someone was just complaining about not being able to talk to everyone NPC or something lol). I won't be able to play the game for at least a year because I own an Xbox 

[Himu]

much rather only be able to talk to a few npcs who have unique dialogue and not every npc who recycle the same three lines over and over again

huh? i spent an hour in sector 7 walking around listening to all the conversations and each one was unique. and most of them got updated after story events. the amount of unique npc dialog has been insane so far.

I was saying it sounds more like the former than the latter (since someone was just complaining about not being able to talk to everyone NPC or something lol). I won't be able to play the game for at least a year because I own an Xbox 

Watch my video with sector 5 gameplay. You'll see how the remakes handling of NPCs is entirely superior. You get so much context to events and what people are thinking. It adds so much to the locale and atmosphere.

[demi]

The NPCs have different dialogue depending on the dresses you get too. If you get the worst option, they're like "what a cheap dress, haha" and even Aerith is like : (

[Positive Touch]

this game reminds me so much of FFXIII except not boring

[Himu]

this game reminds me so much of FFXIII except not boring

So like FFX?

[Positive Touch]

mmmm sorta. to me FFX still felt like an old school jrpg but without the world map, while FFXIII felt like it was structured like an action game or something. VIIR feels more like that because of the linearity, but it of course does have actual towns and (simple) dungeons to give it some variety that XIII ofc lacked.

[Raist]

The wild mix of people losing their shit because "they ruined muh game" or people going for absolutely insane theories (like it really needs that) is quite entertaining.

[Joe Molotov]

The wild mix of people losing their shit because "they ruined muh game" or people going for absolutely insane theories (like it really needs that) is quite entertaining.

Just what you'd expect from the master, Nomura-sensei.

[recursivelyenumerable]

edifice xi

[Great Rumbler]

 

[Great Rumbler]

Great ending. Bring on Part 2.

[bluemax]

mmmm sorta. to me FFX still felt like an old school jrpg but without the world map, while FFXIII felt like it was structured like an action game or something. VIIR feels more like that because of the linearity, but it of course does have actual towns and (simple) dungeons to give it some variety that XIII ofc lacked.

XIII also has this weird thing where you can't go back to most of the locations in the game once you get through them. There aren't too many areas in X that you can't go back to (if any?).

[Great Rumbler]

Ending spoilers:

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The Whispers are actually a metaphor for hardcore FF7 fans who don't want the Remake to be different from the original. In the end, the player proves to Nomura-san that they aren't satisfied with being guided by Destiny and now he has been given full reign to unleash his imagination.

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[recursivelyenumerable]

https://twitter.com/ProceduralJOYE/status/1252264032448524290

https://twitter.com/ProceduralJOYE/status/1252301140559048704

[Raist]

I don't know, every "insane theory" I've seen has been telegraphed in the story, which ones do you mean?

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The three whisper bosses are actually the scrubs from Advent Children

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[Himu]

https://twitter.com/ProceduralJOYE/status/1252264032448524290

https://twitter.com/ProceduralJOYE/status/1252301140559048704

They were terrorists. Fort Condor wouldn't want to join up with that. Same with people from Gongaga after their town was attacked.

[bork]

Are all three FFXIII games bad?  I thought people liked Lightning Returns?

[Pissy F Benny]

I think only complete weirdos played the sequels

[Himu]

Are all three FFXIII games bad?  I thought people liked Lightning Returns?

13 was so bad I never played the sequels.

[nachobro]

13-2 was pretty good. Never played the third one.

[Himu]

Yeah I'm giving 2 and LR a shot after VIIr.

[demi]

Nomura saves final fantasy again

https://twitter.com/finalfantasyvii/status/1252583111390408706

[Positive Touch]

i had a lot of fun with XIII-2. helped me get over the disappointment of the first one. gameplay is much less tight in the sequel unfortunately, but the tradeoff is that you get a normal rpg with towns and dungeons and shit. postgame encourages you to get 100% and for the most part it's pretty fun. story is also classic silly jrpg, with wacky time travel and one of the best villains in the series.

never played LR because time restraints stress me out, and the first area annoyed the shit out of me. i hear it's kinda like valkyrie profile tho.

[Himu]

LR was codeveloped by Tri-Ace. VIIR also uses LR system as a basis apparently so it makes sense it reminds me of VP2.

Nomura saves final fantasy again
https://twitter.com/finalfantasyvii/status/1252583111390408706

Again? When did he save FF the first time?

[demi]

when he made kingdom hearts

[tiesto]

I think only complete weirdos played the sequels

What does that say with the people who platinumed the sequels then?

I actually liked FFXIII-2 a whole lot but Lightning Returns was shit-tier. I hate time limits in games and in LR it was done really poorly. Not to mention the complete nonlinearity of the game and the bevy of technical issues made it a chore to play. The battle system was slightly LR-ish but clunky too, instead of changing paradigms you'd change jobs, but I never felt I had the control I would have in the VP games.

[Pissy F Benny]

I don't know how anyone could tolerate any more FF13 bullshit

Unless you really liked the gameplay and zoned out when the cutscenes started or whatever, I ditched it once you got the other planet

[Cheddahz]

final fantasy xiii is terrible and i can't believe i bought a console for the sole intention of it playing it

[Himu]

X-2 owns

[Himu]

My favorite is when they say 7R is no different than XIII.

In XIII all you do is press up, literally. 7R has actual exploration, and even light dungeons. It's also not a brainless game. In FFXIII you're healed after every battle. 7R is five times the game XIII is and we aren't even talking about the fact it's a remake but decisions it employed on its own, separate from the original.

FFXIII was so bad I didnt buy an FF for almost a decade. Still haven't played 13-2, LR, 4WOL, or Type 0.

[Positive Touch]

i started 4 heroes of light the other day, and i gotta say it was pretty fun. it's a simple game so far, but it's obviously meant to emulate 8 bit rpgs without the bullshit. nice change of pace right now.