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[seagrams hotsauce]

god timu sucks ass so bad

[benjipwns]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/shouldn%E2%80%99t-the-republicans-be-figuring-out-their-front-runner.153984/post-26608599

They're betting on their 36% + gerrymandering winning the electoral college again.

this is a top favorite meme

[Snoopycat_]

I swear these people invent labels every day for the sole purpose of creating imaginary enemies

[Momo]

Because snark and self depreciation are my weapons.

Found the slayven alt!

If thsi is woh I thikn it is, I got bannend for tellign tihs guy he's an idiot (in a nice way) on orangegaf, always thoguht he was fishy

[benjipwns]

everybody get in the pool!
https://www.resetera.com/threads/resetera-moderation-staff-is-fucking-up-beyond-belief-on-lgbt-issues.153951/post-26608630

I'm still in the process of reading up on all the things that happened, and frankly, I'm not particularly surprised about all of this, and would like to add in that as member of marginalized groups (gay/demi, Jewish, and less importantly, but still worth mentioning, furry), I generally feel like things such as concerns about representation et al is handled extremely poorly by the staff, particularly on the gaming side (I don't partake much in Ecetera, truth be told). I've encountered pretty blatant bigotry and dismissal of minority concerns within these discussions, and even some of the ones I reported have not been acted upon.

I don't even want to begin talking about the threads shittalking furries whenever they happen to be in the news, like holy shit. Obviously not comparable to the rubbish trans and ace people have to go through, but it's one of the many clear indicators about how the moderation is working with a double standard.

Is this a serious post? I honestly cannot tell. You're starting off by telling an asexual trans person they are factually wrong about an asexual community problem and calling me idiotic. I haven't seen any other posts here quite so disrespectful. I'm autistic and have a hard time with this so please let me know

I hope no one comes at me but i don't think royalan should be de moded, i don't know how to feel about a gay black man being this come after, like yes hes an idiot that shit was 2 YEARS ago, hes also very shitty for acting like him and the other mods were the victims in this.

I bet alot of the people coming after him are white and that shit simply doesnt sit right with me. Someone said he wasnt the one that said the transphobic stuff on he disord so at this point im hoping his opression olympics with ace people has gone away cause he didnt say they werent apart of the queer community. Thats all.

[VomKriege]

https://twitter.com/brainchildlight/status/1196707953576939520

https://twitter.com/brainchildlight/status/1196720309031886848

I was super invested in those admins I didn't even care to know stepped down several weeks and months ago !

[thisismyusername]

How did this thread grow 12 pages overnight? Is something actually happening or are you guys just bored?

Literally just caught up:

tl;dr of 12 pages: /no1banned/Ceriumisn'toutedasashowerrapistredux

Also: Pogi, post hog in PM bb.

[BisMarckie]

As a person with two major knee injuries and a messed up shoulder, you are all valid. I am valid. Everyone is valid. Except shosty.

[Lonewulfeus]

Do we have a name for this saga yet?  I nominate ReeeeGate, it’s about ethics in forum moderation

[benjipwns]

you are all valid. I am valid. Everyone is valid.

Your invalidphobia is not wanted in this safe space. Stop trying to talk over invalid folx.

[benjipwns]

Please don't downplay it like that. Corrective rape is a severe issue for asexual people and they can't even drive in Russia. This isn't just general ignorance and people being blunt off the back of it.

[Joe Molotov]

Did Cerium self-impeach yet?

[thisismyusername]

Did Cerium self-impeach yet?

He'll consider SweetNicoles offer to self-impeach.

[Rufus]

god timu sucks ass so bad

Hey Seagrams, long time no see.

[thisismyusername]

god timu sucks ass so bad

Hi, Rah. Did Seagrams give you their account?

[joeboy101]

Do we have a name for this saga yet?  I nominate ReeeeGate, it’s about ethics in forum moderation

How about ‘Aces High’?

[BisMarckie]

Please don't downplay it like that. Corrective rape is a severe issue for asexual people and they can't even drive in Russia. This isn't just general ignorance and people being blunt off the back of it.

You have to have sex to drive in Russia? How would any government be able to enforce this? Do you have to fuck a police officer while their colleagues watch?

[PogiJones]

god timu sucks ass so bad

Maybe if you'd bottom every once in a while you could show him how to do it properly

[benjipwns]

I think the site as a whole needs an actual, experienced community director as site staff. While moderators here are human and volunteers, the history of moderation and enforcement of the site's rules has been spotty at best and looked like favoritism at it's worst, and certain topics, such as this one, show deeprooted problems that really need to be solved over the long term and prevented in the future.

I volunteered my time in the past (proper community building, marketing, PR, all areas of expertise this site is currently lacking) when this place was being spun up and got promptly ignored (which is 100% okay!) but I still believe to this day that this place needs experienced guidance on issues such as this, and "winging it" is not, and has not, been working. I really hope a thread like this leads to an open discussion about what needs to happen and an actual proper plan on how to get there.

It is now 2019, almost 2020. Forums and communities as a whole can not be run in the modern area in a style of how they were run 5-10 years ago.

[thisismyusername]

Pogi, it's time.

Send TIMU your hog.

Yes, free me from this shit board.

Edit: Actually, wait... the only other person/horcrux would be Esch.

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[PogiJones]

Please don't downplay it like that. Corrective rape is a severe issue for asexual people and they can't even drive in Russia. This isn't just general ignorance and people being blunt off the back of it.

You have to have sex to drive in Russia? How would any government be able to enforce this? Do you have to fuck a police officer while their colleagues watch?

They don't call it a sex drive for nothin'

 

[thisismyusername]

Wrath, you don't have to fight my battles for me.

[HaughtyFrank]

Please don't downplay it like that. Corrective rape is a severe issue for asexual people and they can't even drive in Russia. This isn't just general ignorance and people being blunt off the back of it.

You have to have sex to drive in Russia? How would any government be able to enforce this? Do you have to fuck a police officer while their colleagues watch?

(My condolences to anyone who has to get with the guys)

[thisismyusername]

I just want you to be happy, bb

I'll never be happy, though. Even on meds, I never was happy.   I should take my own advice to AutistBot.

You've earned that hog.

You'd think. But the "I'M A BREEDER! I'M A BREEDER!" thing. :sigh

[PogiJones]

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[BisMarckie]

You are not allowed to make dad jokes unless you have 4 kids and/or you are over 50 years old.

[thisismyusername]

You are not allowed to make dad jokes unless you have 4 kids and/or you are over 50 years old.

So Mac's the only resident (giant) dad besides Chronovore in that case then?

[Momo]

Please don't downplay it like that. Corrective rape is a severe issue for asexual people and they can't even drive in Russia. This isn't just general ignorance and people being blunt off the back of it.

You have to have sex to drive in Russia? How would any government be able to enforce this? Do you have to fuck a police officer while their colleagues watch?

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(My condolences to anyone who has to get with the guys)

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[Transhuman]

You have to have sex to drive in Russia? How would any government be able to enforce this?

[Ghoul]

[benjipwns]

I don't personally think putting an artificial length of time on how long one could be a moderator would solve much. Mods should be managed and given support/support tools by a proper community director, like any other real established community, and given time off when needed. They should also be given proper guidance in how to deal with even the thorniest of PR issues, as being a moderator also means speaking for a site, the site policies and what the organization stands for.

All in all, this place would benefit from becoming a bit more "professional" so the speak and being run much like how a modern business runs their community. The fact that this hasn't been implemented yet is what's biting the site in the ass right now.

As I said earlier, the site as a whole needs an actual experienced professional in the marketing/PR/community building and management realm.

[benjipwns]

Bottom line, if someone who is ace says it's acephobic and offensive then no other viewpoints on the matter, well, matter.

[bork]

I don't personally think putting an artificial length of time on how long one could be a moderator would solve much. Mods should be managed and given support/support tools by a proper community director, like any other real established community, and given time off when needed. They should also be given proper guidance in how to deal with even the thorniest of PR issues, as being a moderator also means speaking for a site, the site policies and what the organization stands for.

All in all, this place would benefit from becoming a bit more "professional" so the speak and being run much like how a modern business runs their community. The fact that this hasn't been implemented yet is what's biting the site in the ass right now.

As I said earlier, the site as a whole needs an actual experienced professional in the marketing/PR/community building and management realm.

POST A LINK TO THIS

[Hermit]

God damn, I missed a helluva bomb being dropped.

This shit makes my morning coffee even better.

[BisMarckie]

I don't personally think putting an artificial length of time on how long one could be a moderator would solve much. Mods should be managed and given support/support tools by a proper community director, like any other real established community, and given time off when needed. They should also be given proper guidance in how to deal with even the thorniest of PR issues, as being a moderator also means speaking for a site, the site policies and what the organization stands for.

All in all, this place would benefit from becoming a bit more "professional" so the speak and being run much like how a modern business runs their community. The fact that this hasn't been implemented yet is what's biting the site in the ass right now.

As I said earlier, the site as a whole needs an actual experienced professional in the marketing/PR/community building and management realm.

I would respect the hustle, if he wasn’t offering to become a mod for free.

[benjipwns]

This is what all of you are supporting with your cute little Russia images: https://www.resetera.com/threads/fuck-acephobes.153939/post-26609537

Asexuality is persistently seen as a joke or something that can be cured by the right person. It can lead to extremely dangerous situations around relationships, especially with volatile and incendiary partners. They are rarely given validation because it is perceived as a pending state.

God... I remember the first time I vividly ran into acephobia online. There was a tweet being passed around in support of a new, more inclusive lesbian pride flag, because the original one was actually made by a flagrant racist. And I was all on board... until someone in the comments section pointed out that the designer of the new lesbian pride flag had been spewing acephobic drivel on her tumblr for years.

I have an ace friend. When i told my parents about her, they said "well she probably hasnt found the right person". That microcosm represents the invisilibity and indifference ace people receive. A lot of people simply dont understand what they arent.

People are acephobic for the same reasons people are phobic of any sexual orientation or gender variance. They don't understand, leads to fear, leads to big jumps in logic allowing for further harmful behaviour. Etc etc. The two main reasons for aphobia is parents, because they often don't believe that their child could possibly be old enough. Or that it's just a phase. Things you've probably seen crop up elsewhere. The rest that I have experienced is actually from within the queer communities online, in person support groups, and the like where people's ignorance of asexuality allows them to justify saying they aren't queer. Many don't believe in the split attraction model, so to acephobes there is no heterosexual aromantic or asexual heteroromantic it's literally just "Oh these het assholes are trying to invalidate our struggle and infiltrate our community because they want to feel special for not having sex" which ends up getting us called incels which like --- Holy fuck. Not a fan. Our experiences are oversimplified and weaponized against us to keep us from having a place to feel accepted.

Being asexual is a very specific set of othings. There are things it is, and things that it is not. But I have found it difficult to elaborate on the nuance to people who feel typical sexual attraction inasmuch as I fail to grasp a good chunk of society's innate attitudes towards sex. But there are gray areas. Asexuality is supposed to imply a spectrum, but we get oversimplified and wrote as people who are not 'interested' in sex. Which is close but no cigar, because plenty of asexuals might have sex for a number of reasons that don't typically even involve sexual attraction in the first place. I feel like it is much easier to justify dismissal of asexuals because TONS of people choose not to have sex, take breaks, have libido concerns, ED, etc. It's more about attraction, and the nuance is found within the word choice of 'does not feel sexual attraction.' Instead of over simplifying it, it would be helpful to maybe change attitudes of those who are aphobic.

Cishets aren't the problem as much for asexuals. It's the queer community mininmizing us trying to justify treating us like cishets. It is attitudes exactly like yours that make me feel more unsafe. I don't think you're being hostile, I think you are being harmful, abusive, and actively engaging in acephobia and I would like to see you stop, possibly even apologize-- so I take a break from trying to convince the internet my existence is valid.

[benjipwns]

To be fair, things used to be a lot better. We used to have two administrators who were transgender (including myself), plenty of other LGBTQ admins, and a representation closer to 40% of administrators. Today, there's one administrator on staff who is a woman, no transgender administrators, to the best of my knowledge. Not sure about the rest of the LGBTQ among administrators, but it is certainly far less than what it was previously.

Change, particularly among staff, starts at the top, and administrators are the ones who set and determine the policies that the forum is moderated by. I think rotating mods would actually be harmful in the grand scheme of things because being a mod requires very specific skill sets, isn't for everyone, and is extremely easy to abuse or mess up. I'm all for more diversification in the administration though. It was something I championed for even while I was on the admin team and we we were doing better, and it is needed now more than ever.

[Ghoul]

KetKat other than Resetera has really no digital footprint no twitter, nothing. What if the real twist is that she is just a head mate of Robins?

Also bitterNicole a member who destroyed the Steam community and further baited with the "MW2 Boycott" going around acting like her shit doesn't stink is absolutely insane.

I think moderation are actually letting the crazies just fight this one out until they're all tired and then will come back and black bag and tag (duration pending) on the ring leaders.

[thisismyusername]

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See what I mean, Wrath?

All these fake breeder allies: "Oh I respect your sexuality!"
"I find your attractive!"
"I'M ONLY SIXTEEN! I'M ONLY SIXTEEN! I'M A BREEDER! I'M A BREEDER!"

*sigh* Faux-progressives, so fake.

(Not necessarily an attack on Pogi, just something I've noticed)

I don't personally think putting an artificial length of time on how long one could be a moderator would solve much. Mods should be managed and given support/support tools by a proper community director, like any other real established community, and given time off when needed. They should also be given proper guidance in how to deal with even the thorniest of PR issues, as being a moderator also means speaking for a site, the site policies and what the organization stands for.

All in all, this place would benefit from becoming a bit more "professional" so the speak and being run much like how a modern business runs their community. The fact that this hasn't been implemented yet is what's biting the site in the ass right now.

As I said earlier, the site as a whole needs an actual experienced professional in the marketing/PR/community building and management realm.

I would respect the hustle, if he wasn’t offering to become a mod for free.

Shost should make this their avatar, tbh.

[benjipwns]

he's trying

In the professional world of product marketing, public relations and community management, feedback about moderation, moderators and approaches to thread moderation should be welcomed and invited, and all of that feedback would head to someone in charge of parsing it, pulling out the important information and making community improvement/action plans based off the feedback. This would create a system where moderators are allowed to focus on doing their jobs efficiently while community members can also feel like they are being listened to and followed up on in a way that shows actionable change.

This is usually bolstered by ideas such as monthly community chats to talk about community direction and other ideas along those lines.

These ideas aren't "pie in the sky" or things that seem nice on paper. They are all fully achievable.

[seagrams hotsauce]

god you're so fucking boring. whata pussay

[thisismyusername]

god you're so fucking boring. whata pussay

Post hog, Seagrams. <3

[benjipwns]

Every single member of staff that has been a part of this should step down and make way for actual professional community managers. All of this reminds me of an old private Ragnarok Online forum, where the staff were just one big immature clique.

[BisMarckie]

Every single member of staff that has been a part of this should step down and make way for actual professional community managers. All of this reminds me of an old private Ragnarok Online forum, where the staff were just one big immature clique.

And Mexico Neogaf will pay for it!

[Snoopycat_]

 Sweet Nicole  - "being a mod requires very specific skill sets"

 

[Ghoul]

I see the Benji universe has not slept in like two days now to bring us all the hottest take quotes

  (They should make a Russian one I feel like this would offend you)

[Hermit]

Every single member of staff that has been a part of this should step down and make way for actual professional community managers. All of this reminds me of an old private Ragnarok Online forum, where the staff were just one big immature clique.

please no bully

[nachobro]

im not gonna read all this shit you people posted but just wanted to point out



 

[Ghoul]

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               is this acephobia?
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[benjipwns]

Please ensure that all hog is directed through the proper channels of the Mod Special Counsel. All hog must be evaluated by qualified staff with a special skill set to determine if hog is acephobic or not. This is NOT, we repeat NOT, something for regular members to er... uh... take into their own hands.

[thisismyusername]

im not gonna read all this shit you people posted but just wanted to point out

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It's not that far fetched.

Their partner (who is sexual) wants to have sex, they'll do it with them because that makes their partner happy which makes them happy.

But they have no interest in actually engaging/taking the initiative on having sex.

[HaughtyFrank]

im not gonna read all this shit you people posted but just wanted to point out

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[benjipwns]

I'd guess this difference is probably the largest obstacle to more widespread support -- a lot of people are likely going to point out that asexuality isn't legally, er, "compromised"? as homosexuality or transsexuality. There isn't a law against not having sex, I guess.

Keep in mind that a majority of white Americans also believe racism no longer exists following the passage of the Civil Rights Act. The idea that discrimination against marginalized groups is tied solely to legal oppression is a lie deliberately perpetuated by privileged power structures so that they can avoid having to address systemic problems within society.

"No means no."

[benjipwns]

Also sweetnicole I really miss your administrative updates. I used to get super excited whenever I got that notification that something new was happening with the site.

[Ghoul]

I'm A sexual, but I still fucked your bitch (folx).

[Joe Molotov]

im not gonna read all this shit you people posted but just wanted to point out

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It's not that far fetched.

Their partner (who is sexual) wants to have sex, they'll do it with them because that makes their partner happy which makes them happy.

But they have no interest in actually engaging/taking the initiative on having sex.

Stop using logic and post hog.

[bork]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/its-trans-awareness-week-nov-13th-19th.153146/reply?quote=26609170

I've spoken privately with friends about how I think moderation should be handled on this site, now and in the future. I think this thread is the right time to lay out those ideas, mostly building on the longer post you wrote earlier. I have a presentation to do at 9 est but if the thread is open when I get back I'm gonna give it ago. I've been a part of this community for nearly a decade and we need to do some thoughtful introspection on what we're supposed to be about.

Bet that made for some riveting discussion.
 

[Tiops]

Just found out about acephobia... damn that shit sucks man

[benjipwns]

I will remind people that Ketkat was also a major pillar of the mental health community here, many of whom are vulnerable and found great solace, comfort and confidence from the dedication she gave in supporting them.

This can't be understated. I made a post to the same effect in the thread describing moderation's actions within the LGBT community, but is anybody on the mod team willing to pick up the slack for people going through marginal times in that thread assuming Ketkat stays gone? Because I somehow doubt it. If their work's already this hard for them, I'm not sure any of them have the personal resources to take on that added responsibility. Having the personal poise to comfort people in those situations is a rare thing.

[VomKriege]

ERA keeping on saving those lives.