Corona Thread |OT| Nu variant, who dis?

[Dickie Dee]

https://twitter.com/jdawsey1/status/1241821435372417026

 

[Lonewulfeus]

30% unemployment and 50% drop in gdp, Thanks Trump

[Nintex]

30% unemployment and 50% drop in gdp, Thanks Trump

And the Democrats block quickly passing relief so the stock markets will be in free fall tomorrow.

[EightBitNate]

Some good news for once

https://twitter.com/3m/status/1241822783153340417

[team filler]

https://twitter.com/Tiff_FitzHenry/status/1241826380138020866

[I'm a Puppy!]

The last of the three tenors.

[james]

The virus was obviously engineered to take out sex offenders.

Thats why it affects men so much worse that women.

Thats why all these rich politicians are getting it, but regular people arent.

Of course, that begs the question...what the fuck was going on in Wuhan? Is wet market code for something...?

[EightBitNate]

The virus was obviously engineered to take out sex offenders.

Thats why it affects men so much worse that women.

Thats why all these rich politicians are getting it, but regular people arent.

Of course, that begs the question...what the fuck was going on in Wuhan? Is wet market code for something...?

If this were true then why is this forum still so active

[Mandark]

Stores should raise the prices; that would be the appropriate thing for them to do, and it works out better for everyone.

If say, toilet paper... if toilet paper costs what it appropriately should right now given the sudden scarcity, people who need it would have it available to buy in the store at the correct price instead of panicked randos buying it up cheap because the stores can't - by law - make the adjustment they should.  Increasing the price means said randos can't walk away with so much and wouldn't want to in the first place.  This also obviously incentivizes increased production.

Same principle where concerts don't cost what they should and scalpers swoop in and take profits because they get what people are actually willing to pay.

The concert example shows the opposite of what you think it does: an efficient* market for Rolling Stones tickets results in a lot of people who like the Rolling Stones not seeing them live. Which is fine, not everyone needs to see the Rolling Stones. But it does not "work out better for everyone." Likewise, raising the price of toilet paper will not ensure that everyone has access to toilet paper.

I hope this clears things up for you. Cheers, buddy.

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*In the sense of finding a clearing price with no transaction or information costs blah blah blah.

[close]

[team filler]

https://twitter.com/krskur/status/1241553957400371201

 

[Leadbelly]

May have been posted before but...

Lorenzo Sanz: Former Real Madrid president dies after contracting coronavirus

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/51991851

[thisismyusername]

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[Leadbelly]

Basically echoes what we already know

Coronavirus: When will the outbreak end and life get back to normal?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-51963486

But even if the number of cases starts to fall in the next three months, then we will still be far from the end.

It can take a long time for the tide to go out - possibly years.

It is clear the current strategy of shutting down large parts of society is not sustainable in the long-term. The social and economic damage would be catastrophic.

What countries need is an "exit strategy" - a way of lifting the restrictions and getting back to normal.

But the coronavirus is not going to disappear.

If you lift the restrictions that are holding the virus back, then cases will inevitably soar.

Basically no way out.

[EchoRin]

To Our Valued Guests,
We really needed to sell Animal Crossing and Doom Eternal you stupid fucks! Now shut up and leave us alone.
 
Reggie halp!

fixed

[Bebpo]

I feel like if no one can come up with a solution for a year until there's a vaccine (and then give 2 months to vaccinate the entire world), the solution is just going to be to give up and go back to normal and figure a % of the population is going to die and move on. Some people will continue the bunker/quarantine/wfh lifestyle, but a good percentage of the population, especially the younger people will get back out and do normal stuff, go the movies, go shopping, eat out and things will go back to normal a certain amount.

I'd like to think the world can just dig in for a year until the vaccine is out, but idk.

Also maybe if they come up with a effective treatment solution much sooner, that will work. If someone gets sick, they get tested right away, and get treatment right away and they're better in a week. ICU's/Hospitals aren't overrun if they can catch these sicknesses and treat them right away, and business can be back to normal. Just need enough tests and enough of the meds.

[Leadbelly]

A part of me just feels like, lets get this shit over and done with. Mitigate the spread as much as we can, but fuck this lock down shit.

Not sure many people are with me on this though. And I'm not sure I am to be honest. It's just that the more I read about how it is going to take years, and that obviously we can't keep shit shut down for the long term anyway, the more I kind of feel like, 'fuck it then!'.

[thisismyusername]

Restaurant around here stayed open to the public despite county orders to be "delivery or take-out only."
Restaurant: "FUCK THE PO-PO! WE'RE DOING A TRIVIA NIGHT!"
(Later today)
" WE HAVE TO SHUT DOWN UNTIL THIS SHIT BLOWS OVER. FUCK YOU COUNTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Here's a go-fund-me for helping our employees)"
Me: "Ya'll should've known you were going to get popped eventually advertising a trivia night on Facebook. "
(Cue thousands of replies)

Like, what the fuck did you expect? Comply or lose your license/business.

[Leadbelly]

A part of me just feels like, lets get this shit over and done with. Mitigate the spread as much as we can, but fuck this lock down shit.

Are you not worried your parents die? What a callous attitude. I'm so sorry you're uncomfortable right now.

Yeah. And I'm not sure I even want to do it anyway just yet. The thing is though, it seems like there is no way out of it. That eventually we will give up on it anyway.

[Madrun Badrun]

You were pretty quick to jump on the UK's herd immunity strategy too.  Kind of seems like you are OK with some collateral damage. 

[team filler]

https://twitter.com/benkesslen/status/1241779575388024832

[Human Snorenado]

OH NO RAND PAUL HAS CORONAVIRUS LET'S SEE I GUESS HE COULD SEE HIS DAD FOR TREATMENT

https://twitter.com/RonPaul/status/1239551403074433025

WELP, GUESS THE MARKET HAS SPOKEN, ATLAS COUGHED, ETC ETC

[thisismyusername]

Oh no, baby. Ru supports Fracking?

*Cross into a fire of PD's.gif*

[EightBitNate]

We don’t need to go right back to normal OR stay in lockdown for a year. “Flattening out the curve” doesn’t necessarily mean fewer people get infected—they just get infected over a longer amount of time than they would had we not implemented social distancing.

[Leadbelly]

You were pretty quick to jump on the UK's herd immunity strategy too.  Kind of seems like you are OK with some collateral damage.

I didn't jump on it, I said I understood it after reading more about the issues with containing it. It's not like I wouldn't want a better solution or anything.

I will say one thing though. I also understand there is a tragic side of life, something the West has forgot a little bit. We've gone through this many times already. Sometimes it is inescapable.

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/MayorOfLA/status/1241908563590578177

[james]

https://www.earthcam.com/usa/nevada/lasvegas/fremontstreet/?cam=catsmeow_lv_fremont

There is no social distancing going on

Isnt everything closed?

WTF are they browsing?

[Tripon]

OH NO RAND PAUL HAS CORONAVIRUS LET'S SEE I GUESS HE COULD SEE HIS DAD FOR TREATMENT

https://twitter.com/RonPaul/status/1239551403074433025

WELP, GUESS THE MARKET HAS SPOKEN, ATLAS COUGHED, ETC ETC

Ron Paul releases this a day after his son got tested. Dare I accuse Ron Paul of grifting?

[EchoRin]

Oh yeah. Let's have a look at live footage of the Shibuya crossing. Is it nothing but a tumbleweed?

Hmm... not really.

[Madrun Badrun]

Literally, my mom said to me that she thought of all people I will be fine because I spent so much time in my room during highschool and undergrad.

[team filler]

https://twitter.com/ABCWorldNews/status/1241915111020867584

 

[Nuitangg]

Sounds like Era has found a new ally.

[Mandark]

The "let's get this over with" sentiment reminds me of arguments made in favor of post-crash austerity a decade ago.

[OnlyRegret]

I feel like if no one can come up with a solution for a year until there's a vaccine (and then give 2 months to vaccinate the entire world), the solution is just going to be to give up and go back to normal and figure a % of the population is going to die and move on. Some people will continue the bunker/quarantine/wfh lifestyle, but a good percentage of the population, especially the younger people will get back out and do normal stuff, go the movies, go shopping, eat out and things will go back to normal a certain amount.

I'd like to think the world can just dig in for a year until the vaccine is out, but idk.

Also maybe if they come up with a effective treatment solution much sooner, that will work. If someone gets sick, they get tested right away, and get treatment right away and they're better in a week. ICU's/Hospitals aren't overrun if they can catch these sicknesses and treat them right away, and business can be back to normal. Just need enough tests and enough of the meds.

Hard because the system isn't exactly conducive to tanking a crisis. Things barely begun and the bailout requests have begun. Too many poor people without a cheque coming soon.
Government fuckery is of course also culpable.

Learn more about the rona and perhaps things may change. Might have to consider odd solutions like quarantining the most vulnerable for some time while others return to a degree of normalcy.

[Great Rumbler]

Literally, my mom said to me that she thought of all people I will be fine because I spent so much time in my room during highschool and undergrad.

When you get dunked on during an international crisis by your mom.

[Mandark]

My friend's dad left him a letter when he died. My friend had me read it and give him the gist of it because he couldn't read it directly for something like three months after his dad passing.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

I'm just subbing, i'll try not to shit up this thread i didnt know was here.

[team filler]

My friend's dad left him a letter when he died. My friend had me read it and give him the gist of it because he couldn't read it directly for something like three months after his dad passing.

did you dig out some old posts from his dad and deliver some cowardly snark 

[team filler]

https://twitter.com/SGafety/status/1241923240496377985

 

[Bebpo]

The other thing about how long can this last.

So a huge 78% of USA lives paycheck to paycheck. (https://www.forbes.com/sites/zackfriedman/2019/01/11/live-paycheck-to-paycheck-government-shutdown/#c51c8624f10b)
You freeze rents and now people have a roof over their head. Good long term solution.
You give out a check or two to people and now they can buy food for a couple months. This only lasts a couple of months.

Then after a couple of months 78% of people will run out of money.
This means they can't buy food.
This means they can't buy gas for their car.

There is no way this works.

Either they give people a check every month until the economy recovers/lockdown lifts,
or 78% of USA will starve to death and before that will riot, rob and loot every food location there is.

Since it doesn't look like they'll be giving people checks monthly, after a few months this is going to reach a breaking point and something will have to be done. There's just no way around it. This is not sustainable.

[Madrun Badrun]

https://globalnews.ca/news/6715814/coronavirus-n95-masks-ontario/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

Fuck ya

[OnlyRegret]

The other thing about how long can this last.

So a huge 78% of USA lives paycheck to paycheck. (https://www.forbes.com/sites/zackfriedman/2019/01/11/live-paycheck-to-paycheck-government-shutdown/#c51c8624f10b)
You freeze rents and now people have a roof over their head. Good long term solution.
You give out a check or two to people and now they can buy food for a couple months. This only lasts a couple of months.

Then after a couple of months 78% of people will run out of money.
This means they can't buy food.
This means they can't buy gas for their car.

There is no way this works.

Either they give people a check every month until the economy recovers/lockdown lifts,
or 78% of USA will starve to death and before that will riot, rob and loot every food location there is.

Since it doesn't look like they'll be giving people checks monthly, after a few months this is going to reach a breaking point and something will have to be done. There's just no way around it. This is not sustainable.

Exactly.
With a system where food, utilities, shelter, and distractions were available. You could manage a longer quarantine, but that just isn't the case for probably most of the world.

[Madrun Badrun]

The other thing about how long can this last.

So a huge 78% of USA lives paycheck to paycheck. (https://www.forbes.com/sites/zackfriedman/2019/01/11/live-paycheck-to-paycheck-government-shutdown/#c51c8624f10b)
You freeze rents and now people have a roof over their head. Good long term solution.
You give out a check or two to people and now they can buy food for a couple months. This only lasts a couple of months.

Then after a couple of months 78% of people will run out of money.
This means they can't buy food.
This means they can't buy gas for their car.

There is no way this works.

Either they give people a check every month until the economy recovers/lockdown lifts,
or 78% of USA will starve to death and before that will riot, rob and loot every food location there is.

Since it doesn't look like they'll be giving people checks monthly, after a few months this is going to reach a breaking point and something will have to be done. There's just no way around it. This is not sustainable.

Ya, the check-in the mail is short term economic stimulus aid, not an actual solution to the crisis - and people will love it because it's money they didn't expect.  People will remember Trump as the president who gave them a xmas bonus not as the president who killed their grandma.   

[Madrun Badrun]

This guy is live blogging his experience as a doctor in the NHS.

[Bebpo]

One idea I read, which isn't practical logistically at all

is if someone could make a test that tells if you have ever had Covid-19 as well as if you still have it. If they could make enough of this test for the worldwide population (which isn't likely, though how they're going to make enough vaccines for the worldwide population, I don't know that either),

Then people could get tested and if they test that they've had Covid-19 and recovered and don't have it anymore, they get a mark on their SSN/identity card and some type of permanent identifying marker that lets them go back to regular day to day living.

But this would create a black market for those markers, cause non-immune people to mix in and spread the disease, cause people to purposefully try to get infected just to clear it and get back out, etc..etc... so wouldn't work.

[Bebpo]

Ya, the check-in the mail is short term economic stimulus aid, not an actual solution to the crisis - and people will love it because it's money they didn't expect.  People will remember Trump as the president who gave them a xmas bonus not as the president who killed their grandma.

Eh, if they remember him as the guy that gave them their bonus and then they all died on the streets and society collapsed I don't think they're gonna still love Trump.

Maybe if he passed the Dem version of the checks idea with $2k/month for everyone until the crisis is over.

[OnlyRegret]

One idea I read, which isn't practical logistically at all

is if someone could make a test that tells if you have ever had Covid-19 as well as if you still have it. If they could make enough of this test for the worldwide population (which isn't likely, though how they're going to make enough vaccines for the worldwide population, I don't know that either),

Then people could get tested and if they test that they've had Covid-19 and recovered and don't have it anymore, they get a mark on their SSN/identity card and some type of permanent identifying marker that lets them go back to regular day to day living.

But this would create a black market for those markers, cause non-immune people to mix in and spread the disease, cause people to purposefully try to get infected just to clear it and get back out, etc..etc... so wouldn't work.

Good luck passing something like that in the States.

[james]

This next month is going to be the longest month of your guys' lives so get ready for that psychologically.

Good. I need all the time available with my gf before she leaves me

[OnlyRegret]

This next month is going to be the longest month of your guys' lives so get ready for that psychologically.

Good. I need all the time available with my gf before she leaves me

 

[Don Rumata]

He seems to be recovering.
Maybe it wasn't COVID tho.

[Ghoul]

They’re closing Nando’s, McDonald’s and Primark stores today. Lockdown is deffo near here.
The issue we’re having in the U.K. is that gov say one thing then the media are saying oh parks are still open
go out for walks whilst on social distancing, but don’t explain not to spend all fucking day in them.
I know that London parks are now closing and expect other regions to do the same. It’s kinda rubbish.
Then they say visit your mums on Wednesday and don’t on Friday. Utter fuckery going on.

[brawndolicious]

I've said it to a dozen people this weekend, we don't have a mechanism to fix this and companies/governments are cowards that don't have the balls to be transparent or the will to commit to a 12 month solution of any kind. All the damage so far has just been from the fear of what's going to happen, we haven't actually felt the loss in productivity and socialization yet. Until the resources are made available for people to survive the partial economic hibernation, as well maybe some sort of assisted living for those in vulnerable populations, it's going to get a lot worse.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

I got a 11 50 pm notification about getting my unpaid invoices in before afternoon on monday from a client.

[naff]

nz is going into full lockdown in 48 hours and we're at barely 100 cases. ty based jacinda

[VomKriege]

They’re closing Nando’s, McDonald’s and Primark stores today. Lockdown is deffo near here.
The issue we’re having in the U.K. is that gov say one thing then the media are saying oh parks are still open
go out for walks whilst on social distancing, but don’t explain not to spend all fucking day in them.
I know that London parks are now closing and expect other regions to do the same. It’s kinda rubbish.
Then they say visit your mums on Wednesday and don’t on Friday. Utter fuckery going on.

If it offers any consolation, it's been the same in France until they started lockdown. Expect the media to get a bit patronizing towards you foolish citizens because four chavs are smoking cigs on a sidewalk somewhere after weeks of mixed messaging from the top.

[VomKriege]

A lot of medical speculation from several countries that a loss of smell and / or taste might be a symptom. It's been observed in China, Italy and by specialized physicians in France and the UK.

[Don Rumata]

A lot of medical speculation from several countries that a loss of smell and / or taste might be a symptom. It's been observed in China, Italy and by specialized physicians in France and the UK.

That's a thing even with regular cold tho.
So just another symptom of flu/cold.

[CatsCatsCats]

Ugh can’t believe my ass is going back to work today

[Don Rumata]

The whole world is going to have to come to see money in a completely different way going forward. And by have to, I mean forced.

How so?

[who is ted danson?]

Really want some Boris bucks. Give everyone some fucking money you mop haired bastard.

[ToxicAdam]

We collectively felt that in 2008 and it didn't change much.