Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread

[VomKriege]

Empathy is a two-way street, but when you have people driving on their side and the other side of the road in a tank, it's hard to keep a "can't we all just get along" attitude.

At this point, I've seen enough posts in these threads to be able to say that with some certainty that there's plenty of tanks to go around.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-poliera-2020-ot5-guidance-recommends-quarantining-poliera.178039/post-31747740

Can't we all just try to get along as we're being insulted?

This is a stunning thing to say in a community thread less than a page from it being brigaded, again.

at this point if you can't tell the difference between sides here then congratulations, you're boogie.gif

[VomKriege]

Cheebo said he'd vote for reincarnated Hitler if he was the Dem nominee but would he do the same if it was Boogie2988 ?
 

[nudemacusers]

I mean just in terms of accomplishment alone, boogie doesn’t even stack up.

[Lonewulfeus]

User Banned (2 weeks): engaging in metacommentary and hostility over a series of posts and threads over a number of days
Sorry but it is complete bullshit.  The comment does not have to be about me personally for the accusations people keep throwing out at minority members to be disgusting.

That specific thread does have people accusing members of being Trump supporters for feeling that a video was racist, but this is a large issue throughout our political atmosphere.  People are so quick to throw out accusations of bad faith, or being a Russian agent, or secretly a Trump supporter that realistic concerns that people have are trampled over and ignored.

People are pressured repeatedly to look past Biden's sleaziness, the accusations against him, and his track record on quite a few issues for the "greater good" when all that does is repeatedly hammer home how little those issues actually matter to people.  And don't try and pull the "People recognize just how shitty those discussions can get" when people have been shitting on others who bring this up on this forum alone for weeks, let alone how this idea of being behind Biden 100% has been pushed across the media and from other people in general.

If we criticize him, we're helping the enemy build a narrative.  If we express being uncomfortable voting for him, we're directly helping the enemy gain power.  Those are dismissive attitudes to have because no one is actually addressing why people are uncomfortable, or how we can hold our leaders to a higher standard instead of being forced to choose between two rapists who will never be held accountable.

I know it’s ketkat but nothing there seems unreasonable to me with a cursory glance

[Propagandhim]

If we could all just have a little faith that most people they run into here are actually interested in making the world a better place, and are fully realized people on the other side of their keyboards, that'd be... much better, lol. But making that kind of assessment is another thing that goes out of the window when you're hurting and afraid.

 

Getting along with each other despite having differences of opinions? 


Wait a second...

 

That could be a really transformative idea for this forum...

 




 

Mmmmm nah

[VomKriege]

Let the site bleed long standing and well respected posters because bullies deserve equal space, then.

The problem here is that there's some disagreement on who the bullies are.

You're on the verge of figuring it out, Ensign !

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-poliera-2020-ot5-guidance-recommends-quarantining-poliera.178039/post-31752573

[VomKriege]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-poliera-2020-ot5-guidance-recommends-quarantining-poliera.178039/post-31751808

Moderator's Blues by Poodlestrike

Respectfully, spare me the comparisons to the nazi-enabler. Plenty of people will all kinds of positions have done the "if you don't agree with me you have no empathy so shut up and get in line" shit around here, on Biden, on Bernie, on everything.

All I'm saying is: everybody's hurting. Try to give people their space. I don't harbor any illusions at this point about everybody coming together in a grand agreement and harmony, I just want to stop seeing people compounding the pain because they're all suffering.

Be blue no matter who.

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[Momo]

User Banned (2 weeks): engaging in metacommentary and hostility over a series of posts and threads over a number of days
Sorry but it is complete bullshit.  The comment does not have to be about me personally for the accusations people keep throwing out at minority members to be disgusting.

That specific thread does have people accusing members of being Trump supporters for feeling that a video was racist, but this is a large issue throughout our political atmosphere.  People are so quick to throw out accusations of bad faith, or being a Russian agent, or secretly a Trump supporter that realistic concerns that people have are trampled over and ignored.

People are pressured repeatedly to look past Biden's sleaziness, the accusations against him, and his track record on quite a few issues for the "greater good" when all that does is repeatedly hammer home how little those issues actually matter to people.  And don't try and pull the "People recognize just how shitty those discussions can get" when people have been shitting on others who bring this up on this forum alone for weeks, let alone how this idea of being behind Biden 100% has been pushed across the media and from other people in general.

If we criticize him, we're helping the enemy build a narrative.  If we express being uncomfortable voting for him, we're directly helping the enemy gain power.  Those are dismissive attitudes to have because no one is actually addressing why people are uncomfortable, or how we can hold our leaders to a higher standard instead of being forced to choose between two rapists who will never be held accountable.

I know it’s ketkat but nothing there seems unreasonable to me with a cursory glance

the only real rule there has ever been on both orange and purple gaf is to never annoy mods

[Raist]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-poliera-2020-ot5-guidance-recommends-quarantining-poliera.178039/page-191#post-31745025

That threadmark

[VomKriege]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-poliera-2020-ot5-guidance-recommends-quarantining-poliera.178039/page-191#post-31745025

That threadmark

We live... In a community. 

DROVES :

me neither. I'm out. Barely post anyway. There is only so much I can ignore before it's just become unreadable. I used Poliera for years to escape the madness and now it has infiltrated here.

Same here. I’m mostly a lurker but have been reading “here” since 2012. Basically everyone has left due to very obvious issues with the site and it’s just not worth it anymore. The fact that this thread isn’t considered a “community”, despite very obviously being a community (I guess a shell of a community at this point), is madness.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-poliera-2020-ot5-guidance-recommends-quarantining-poliera.178039/post-31755192

Yeah, I think I'll probably try to follow Aaron's lead. I really don't have the patience for this nonsense on an internet forum, and it's pretty clear nothing will change.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-poliera-2020-ot5-guidance-recommends-quarantining-poliera.178039/post-31754523

Completely disagree. If you have the right set of opinions, you get the benefit of the doubt. If not, you don't.

 

I don't plan to stick around either. There has been no improvement whatsoever, despite the mods claiming heroic efforts in trying to manage the "chaos" (mainly by banning the thread regulars, it seems).

I think it might be more accurate to say that at risk communities are hurting and lashing out.
Many of the thread regulars here are from at-risk communities

A lot of the people who keep this thread active, even if they don't have the approved set of opinions, have skin in the game, and they're all trying to have good-faith discussions of substance and argue their informed perspective. These are valuable voices, but they don't count for anything here.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-poliera-2020-ot5-guidance-recommends-quarantining-poliera.178039/post-31754163

WITNESS ME CERIUM

[Raist]

We are a quantum community/thread that only exists in one space when it serves the interests of others, and only generates moderation involvement when it is targeted at them. See the sudden influx and scrutiny as Wonderment was getting targeted.

Summit NAO

[nudemacusers]

Feeding on whiny poliera bitch baby tears now that cerium (pbuh) has stopped giving a fukk about the forum 

[VomKriege]

I want to know this: who said it's not a community? Because it is.

Yeah, this has had staff confused for a minute. Who's said that this isn't a community thread?

Yeah, if people come in here just to start fights and do personal attacks they should be getting banned. If that hasn't been happening it's going to start again.

If people are cheering bans, they should be getting reported.

Maybe a little late, guys 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-poliera-2020-ot5-guidance-recommends-quarantining-poliera.178039/post-31755495

[Raist]

Feeding on whiny poliera bitch baby tears now that cerium (pbuh) has stopped giving a fukk about the forum 

Like he ever gave a fuck

[nachobro]

every single one of those whiny fruits who are "quitting the board" will be back within a week

[Lonewulfeus]

PoliEra acting like they aren’t one of the most protected communities on the entire board?   

[nudemacusers]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-poliera-2020-ot5-guidance-recommends-quarantining-poliera.178039/page-193#post-31757127

Whining about Cheeto getting called out 

Btw if everyone is using gamergate gaslighting rhetoric (which btw is alt-right nazi rhetoric), any all parties are getting banned for it, doesn’t that mean the board is full of alt right gamergate nazis?

[nudemacusers]

It's a democratic outcome. Sorry you don't like it. Losing sucks, I know. Losing twice betting on the same shit horse probably sucks twice as much.

This post will age as well as a cup of milk in the sun.

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

If people are cheering bans, they should be getting reported.

Is this another new secret rule?
"prominent members" fucking love putting a post mortem boot into the freshly banned

[VomKriege]

🚨 Oh I see that now that it’s a 5 alarm fire and good members are leaving publicly, you decide to call us a community. While making more empty promises while still both sidesing endlessly. How convenient. 🔥 🚨

 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-poliera-2020-ot5-guidance-recommends-quarantining-poliera.178039/post-31757031

[Raist]

Been talking about this for a while now.

In complete honesty, I've felt like I can't post in here and I run the damn site. And yes, it's a damn community.

[nudemacusers]

Sounds like quitter talk... Tbh if ketkat can get two bodies for a two week ban I’d respect it

[VomKriege]

When the Could I get an invite to the Discord start blooming, you know there's big trouble in little-GAF.

One problem I've had is how it feels like my reports are getting ignored.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-poliera-2020-ot5-guidance-recommends-quarantining-poliera.178039/post-31757406

[VomKriege]

Biden will do fine, "voters" like yourself are the hopeless ones.

"Voter"... Call me how you really feel ! 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-poliera-2020-ot5-guidance-recommends-quarantining-poliera.178039/post-31757565

[Propagandhim]

Wasn't this Evilore's excuse at some point?   

[VomKriege]

Damn it's real interesting how right after a post is made about "people coming in here just to start fights" four people who Rarely Post decide to come in and post shit that might start fights

 

[Momo]

I followed one of the links and read half a page of that politics thread. They all just seem like Biden apologists, nice nuance you're trying to protect there lol

[Raist]

making an enormous group DM with limited-use discord invites, hold on to your butts

Droves

[nudemacusers]

Damn, even anime era lasted longer 

[Momo]

I legit don't see the point of having a US politics thread if there are no Trump supporters, republicans, Tulsi, Yang, that guy that looks like big boss from the Joe Rogan show etc in there, without the entire spectrum of voters and opinions you might as well just call it the 'DNC fanclub : I know he's a rapist but man Trump sucks OT of let's stay in our safe bubble friends'

[VomKriege]

I followed one of the links and read half a page of that politics thread. They all just seem like Biden apologists, nice nuance you're trying to protect there lol

I'll let you know that no one even likes Biden there. 

[nudemacusers]

Time to start a death pool for the next community to flame out.

[Momo]

I followed one of the links and read half a page of that politics thread. They all just seem like Biden apologists, nice nuance you're trying to protect there lol

I'll let you know that no one even likes Biden there. 

Biden gave me ice cream once and whispered in my ear, I don't know if it was ice cream but something cold went down the back of my dress

[VomKriege]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-poliera-2020-ot5-guidance-recommends-quarantining-poliera.178039/post-31758555

More dirty laundry 

Gaston ! A bucket for Monsieur !

[Raist]

Where did this sudden hopelessness about Biden come from? Nearly every data point, poll, and election result recently has shown us that we have an excellent chance in Novemeber.

Yeah that worked out really well last time.

[nachobro]

imagine thinking resetti isn't enough of a safe space bubble that you need to make a smaller, even safer bubble

[Momo]

imagine thinking resetti isn't enough of a safe space bubble that you need to make a smaller, even safer bubble

Narrator : "eventually the regretti spaghetti poster found themselves bursting their bubble of one, but the future refused to change"

[Raist]

imagine thinking resetti isn't enough of a safe space bubble that you need to make a smaller, even safer bubble

Which inevitably will burst too. It's amazing how they are completely oblivious to their own endgame

[VomKriege]

I think each community should have their own mod or mods, to police what is looking like malicious posting buy non regulars. Would help filter who is being disingenuous and would help out the general mod team who may not be too keen on who and what from each community.

More mods will surely solve this.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-poliera-2020-ot5-guidance-recommends-quarantining-poliera.178039/post-31759173

[VomKriege]

I will note, we banned the person who did that to Auto. As for that other stuff, we literally can't see everything. If people are harassing other people please report that stuff. Be specific with what is going on in the reports. There's days we're literally flooded with reports, and completely overwhelmed. Some stuff is going to get missed, but if anyone is harassing anyone else (on the site or in DMs) we absolutely want to know about it. That shit is unacceptable and needs to stop.

Report more. Also we're already drowning in reports.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-poliera-2020-ot5-guidance-recommends-quarantining-poliera.178039/post-31759401

[VomKriege]

My reports go entirely unanswered despite the fact that I've had three mods tell me I make good reports (you, Poodle, and Finale when they were a mod). I am specific with my reports to a fault in that even if I think someone is acting like an ass, I won't report them if it is not against a rule I can find. My reports cite the General Guide (which I know better than some on staff, again as I have been told) and I link to previous banned infractions and other posts to illustrate the trail. Those good reports go unnoticed, or at the least unanswered, and unactioned. And that too is also unacceptable.

 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-poliera-2020-ot5-guidance-recommends-quarantining-poliera.178039/post-31760289

[maninthemirror]

Russian Hacking
Leftist nut jobs: 🤐

Chinese atrocities on Rohingya
Leftist nut jobs: 🤐

Israeli atrocities on Palestinians
Leftist nut jobs: 🤐

Biden: Trump caved to Chinese
Leftist Nut jobs: This is a racist by Biden as he didn’t use word “government”


Era has completely lost the plot and people are laughing 😂

[Raist]

stop going into discord people. if you have problems, get together and talk to the people who runs the site.

this place will become another lunatic subreddit if posters keep leaving like this.

Will?

[VomKriege]

stop going into discord people. if you have problems, get together and talk to the people who runs the site.

this place will become another lunatic subreddit if posters keep leaving like this.

I mean, one way for this to not become a lunatic subreddit is to...........get rid of the lunatics.

Please give more details on the lunatics.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-poliera-2020-ot5-guidance-recommends-quarantining-poliera.178039/post-31760373

[Lonewulfeus]

stop going into discord people. if you have problems, get together and talk to the people who runs the site.

this place will become another lunatic subreddit if posters keep leaving like this.

I mean, one way for this to not become a lunatic subreddit is to...........get rid of the lunatics.

Please give more details on the lunatics.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-poliera-2020-ot5-guidance-recommends-quarantining-poliera.178039/post-31760373

All the regulars going to discord is getting rid of the lunatics

[VomKriege]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-poliera-2020-ot5-guidance-recommends-quarantining-poliera.178039/post-31760472

To snipe. To brigade.

Play it tactical.

[Momo]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-poliera-2020-ot5-guidance-recommends-quarantining-poliera.178039/post-31758546

Ooh this dude is not long for the reegretti world

[nachobro]

tbf this was predicted in the title of their stupid thread

US PoliEra 2020 |OT5| Guidance recommends quarantining PoliERA

seems like a win for everyone

[nudemacusers]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-poliera-2020-ot5-guidance-recommends-quarantining-poliera.178039/page-196#post-31760301

Like as an example, I used to browse /r/politics a lot, but then it became a bit too Bernie-focused for my taste, so I switched over to /r/neoliberal where conversations have a bit more nuance.

Lmao yes those nuanced /neoliberal threads

[maninthemirror]

Whose leaving in droves? The nutjobs Bernie folks or the chickenshit Biden supporters who don’t have the guts to speak out

[Lonewulfeus]

Whose leaving in droves? The nutjobs Bernie folks or the chickenshit Biden supporters who don’t have the guts to speak out

The latter, because the former is allowed to discuss leftist politics in the politics OT

[VomKriege]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-poliera-2020-ot5-guidance-recommends-quarantining-poliera.178039/post-31760835

Sure, let's just throw advice for how to handle bans. I'm sure B-Dubs will get to it between the reports, DMs, Discord invite begging, Departing Manifestos and that other guy who was denied the satisfaction of being rewarded bans despite always doing all his reports perfectly.

[BikeJesus]

More than 25 guests showing again for drama?

Now is the time to re-bring up the fact that I, 213372bu, was a really nice member who made multiple threads as a chill member and received a perma for simply telling excelsiorlef that bumping a thread shaming some dude going over a divorce is unnecessary.

It was an instant perma and it was because I was " a junior member" and I had previous "infractions".

One, I had already made multiple threads on the site that were productive. I was by all means a full member. Two, I had never been banned at all which can be checked on the weird ban tracker.

#justicefor213372bu #213372budidnothingwrong #prisonindustrialcomplexlookitup

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Also, B-DUBS IS A RACIST.

VOLIMAR IS A PEDOPHILE. https://m.imgur.com/a/5KbQBPr

[Lonewulfeus]

More than 25 guests showing again for drama?

Now is the time to re-bring up the fact that I, 213372bu, was a really nice member who made multiple threads as a chill member and received a perma for simply telling excelsiorlef that bumping a thread shaming some dude going over a divorce is unnecessary.

It was an instant perma and it was because I was " a junior member" and I had previous "infractions".

One, I had already made multiple threads on the site that were productive. I was by all means a full member. Two, I had never been banned at all which can be checked on the weird ban tracker.

#justicefor213372bu #213372budidnothingwrong #prisonindustrialcomplexlookitup

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As the unofficial ambassador to resetera I will endorse 213372bu, they would be an excellent member of resetera.  He throws a fit when he doesn’t get his way just like most of your current posters and he makes an extremely attractive woman in the Instagram or Snapchat whatever gender reversal thing.  Please reinstate his account mod admiral benji

[Momo]

Are we doing shoutouts now? Unban me Evilore and make filler a mod

[VomKriege]

if you have problems, get together and talk to the people who runs the site.

We've been doing that for over a year, both on and off Era. I'm sorry, I don't know what more we can do.

Cerium's inbox must be maxed out.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-poliera-2020-ot5-guidance-recommends-quarantining-poliera.178039/post-31761210

[nachobro]

however he is an expert at dramatically "quitting" a forum over nothing and then immediately coming back so they could find his advice pretty useful

[Momo]

I truly do love you all for entertaining me and keeping my mind off this covid hellhole where I can't even buy baked bread

[VomKriege]

They flee to escape the disease, but they were unaware they carried it within them... 

For anyone that is a mod/admin in the discord, instead of individually inviting everyone it might be easier to post an invite link (the kind where you have to post in this thread before you can view it), that's what the FilmEra OT discord does and it works fairly well. You could also limit who is allowed to post until roles are assigned, that way you can ban people that don't post here in good faith before they have a chance to troll in the server.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-poliera-2020-ot5-guidance-recommends-quarantining-poliera.178039/post-31761531

[nachobro]

while they were busy quashing dissenting opinions from the right they forgot about all the bigots (aka people who dont agree with me) there were on the left. so much bad faith!!