Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread

[VomKriege]

Twist : The doxxs are coming from inside the house.
 

[bork]

https://twitter.com/Plipster/status/1251869245543264258

[Ghoul]

average looking girl mocks someone who lost their job during pandemic. What a hellscape.

[bork]

The full stream:

https://twitter.com/ItsTrust_/status/1251964533415055363

"It's JUST FIVE DOLLARS.  It's just TEN DOLLARS.  Me?  I don't sub to anyone else except an IRL friend."

[benjipwns]

If it wasn’t unreadable before, it is now. 2+ pages of junk.

[SmokyDave]

Scrubbed through that twitch to see tits. Left empty-handed and with no fucking idea what the young people of today are spending their money on.

[bork]

Scrubbed through that twitch to see tits. Left empty-handed and with no fucking idea what the young people of today are spending their money on.

Quality content, like this!

https://twitter.com/EmperorFridge/status/1251745144736530433

She lost 87,000 followers after the rant. 

[Transhuman]

"If you don't have $10 you probably don't have time to watch twitch because you should be working"



@2:29

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

[thisismyusername]

Scrubbed through that twitch to see tits. Left empty-handed and with no fucking idea what the young people of today are spending their money on.

Twitch is a strict "no tits zone." It's why the titty streamers are even more pathetic. Breeders spending $10-500 on a streamer to say their name (You're goddamn right), and they get nothing from it.

[HaughtyFrank]

Donate for your very own cyberstalker girlfriend

[SmokyDave]

Twitch is a strict "no tits zone." It's why the titty streamers are even more pathetic. Breeders spending $10-500 on a streamer to say their name (You're goddamn right), and they get nothing from it.

Seems like a recipe for disaster. Much healthier to fire up a porn site, bash one out, and then move on with something more productive. Still, I suppose it isn't really hurting anyone. Just seems like such a shit return on investment.

Respect her name though, Thighranosaurus Rex ain't bad.

[VomKriege]

This thread is so pathetic 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/david-fuck-marvel-ayer-acknowledges-mcus-additional-photography.188295/

YAASSSSS DISNEY, ROAD TO $10B THAT WILL FATTEN SHAREHOLDERS WHILE WORKERS ARE LET GO OF IN THE MIDDLE OF A MAJOR CRISIS WAIT IT DOESN'T SOUND SO GOOD WHY AM I SHOUTING I NEVER WATCHED LA DOLCE VITA AM I WASTING MY LIFE FOLLOWING SUCH MEDIOCRE DIRECTORS AS DAVID AYER
 

[VomKriege]

Ok, so I've been a member of this particular community since like 2010 and I've had some odd feelings about it lately. I'm no longer in the discord, so this is now my only connection.

Frankly, the implication that this isn't a community or that it should be getting shunted off into another thread is wrong. That's not how I've ever really looked at it and anyone that does doesn't get the history. There's always been a lot of diverse opinions in here. Hell, for a time I was one of them. I mostly lurk at this point. When I said I feel unwelcome earlier, it's because I feel like a human starting gun lately. I say something and it's off to the races. Both off-site and on.

Look, the bottom line is there are some legitimate grievances as to how we've managed this thread in the last few weeks. Some people just come in to start fights or to troll or antagonize. You're right, that's happened. We've banned some of it, but not nearly enough. People shouldn't be coming into a community thread to start fights. Especially when they aren't regulars. The personal insults and insinuations thrown around by some people need to stop. You're all right that we wouldn't allow it in any other community thread, so we're going to stop allowing it in this one. Frankly, it's not right and goes against the rules of the site. We'll be coming down harder on that going forward. I know it might be hard to believe it right now, but the way things have been in here aren't the way they're going to be. People who came in here to just mess around or troll yesterday got banned, we know who is actually here to talk and participate and who is here spoiling for a fight. The former is welcome and the latter isn't.

I'd like to think this isn't the last time I'm going to see a bunch of people I consider friends. I know between the election and quarantine everyone's tensions are high. I get that.

STONKS BANS

"Frankly, it's not right and goes against the rules of the site."
Sun Tzu

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-poliera-2020-ot5-guidance-recommends-quarantining-poliera.178039/post-31803384

[nachobro]

https://twitter.com/Plipster/status/1251869245543264258

with talk like that you'd think this ho would be better than just average looking

[Uncle]

remember that time NeoGAF.com had a nurse admit to harming people deliberately and they covered it up and banned the person who pointed it out, I'm glad ResetERA.com has implemented many controls to ensure something like that could never happen again, even if they do need to implement everything Vom's cataloged to make sure we can feel safe again

Isn’t said nurse now a moderator

besada banned riposte for criticizing him, saying it was off topic

I think people mostly ignored it because it was off-topic and had nothing to do with the discussion, not to mention it's difficult to tell who's being an edgelord and who isn't.

That said, I couldn't help but notice that trying to stir up shit about the issue on Twitter wasn't enough for you, but you thought you'd come to stir some up in the thread itself. That was probably not your best idea.

the "stirring up shit on twitter:"
https://twitter.com/FriendlyRiposte/status/845123377794760704

then at some point in their shame they renamed titanoboa to "already torn"

and later either deleted the post or removed the user wholesale from the archives, but a quote still remains

[VomKriege]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-poliera-2020-ot5-guidance-recommends-quarantining-poliera.178039/post-31804947

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-poliera-2020-ot5-guidance-recommends-quarantining-poliera.178039/post-31805235

B-Dubs uses pandering
It's not very effective

[VomKriege]

Disrupting legitimate and often unrelated communities in this way is a documented tactic by the alt right.

 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-poliera-2020-ot5-guidance-recommends-quarantining-poliera.178039/post-31806909

It's really crazy that lurkers can be following the community silently and post high quality thoughts like this one.

 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-poliera-2020-ot5-guidance-recommends-quarantining-poliera.178039/post-31808346

[Tripon]

I don't get it, is the complaint from the Politics Era thread is that people are discussing politics? 

[Switters]

Free likes to whoever can produce Ketkat's ban message for ya boi. I can't find it.

[Uncle]

Disrupting legitimate and often unrelated communities in this way is a documented tactic by the alt right.

 

Disrupting legitimate and often unrelated communities in this way is a documented tactic by the alt right. The Donald on Reddit destroyed many communities through exactly this tactic. Sowing discord, mistrust and confusion is an end goal in an of itself. If we fall for it and move elsewhere, they'll just keep coming. New news in new threads and drive by trolling being punishes is one of the ways you can isolate it though as it makes patterns more visible.

if they actually accomplished anything like this they would've crowed about it for ages and it would've been posted and reposted on era like "it can happen here tooooo"

and in the next breath they'll mock the same people for being boring ineffectual drones who always out themselves immediately and can't accomplish anything

[Uncle]

Free likes to whoever can produce Ketkat's ban message for ya boi. I can't find it.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-poliera-2020-ot5-guidance-recommends-quarantining-poliera.178039/post-31740105

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

> pick all of your moderators as 'prominent members' from various clique communities
> discover your moderators play favorites with the clique communities they came from

[Snoopycat_]

"but the real sad effect is the loss of quality discourse..."

 
 

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

Damn this place is toxic for anyone not 100% participating in a hivemind

You make having critical thinking skills, morality, and empathy for others sound negative. Do you lack these? Join us in the hive mind and be a better person.

[HaughtyFrank]

Free likes to whoever can produce Ketkat's ban message for ya boi. I can't find it.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-poliera-2020-ot5-guidance-recommends-quarantining-poliera.178039/post-31740105

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over a series of posts
over multiple threads
over multiple days

so tired...

[thisismyusername]

Scrubbed through that twitch to see tits. Left empty-handed and with no fucking idea what the young people of today are spending their money on.

Quality content, like this!

https://twitter.com/EmperorFridge/status/1251745144736530433

She lost 87,000 followers after the rant. 

https://twitter.com/montana_steel/status/1252095214350671872

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

Damn this place is toxic for anyone not 100% participating in a hivemind

watcha gonna do about it? cry?

Damn this place is toxic for anyone not 100% participating in a hivemind

Jesus Christ go look for a shitty centrist forum or something. "centrist" don't contribute absolutely anything to the conversation yet think they're super woke for looking at "both perspectives". You remind me of a friend I just unfollowed on Facebook.

Damn this place is toxic for anyone not 100% participating in a hivemind

Bye then.

F'real, go away then.

Damn this place is toxic for anyone not 100% participating in a hivemind

Feel free to fucking leave.

Damn this place is toxic for anyone not 100% participating in a hivemind

Go lick door knobs you knob.

Damn this place is toxic for anyone not 100% participating in a hivemind

GAF is just down the road, if you'd rather be in an environment where Trump's shitty fucking moronic cultists are coddled like you apparently want

way to prove them wrong, braintrust

[Ghoul]

worst of all after her rant she got 50 subs so made 250 and that is not including paypal donations, ad rev and bits.

[clothedmacuser]

• A big issue I see is that we've replaced trolling that involves shitposting with the intent of getting a rise out of someone with trolling to bait people into crossing lines in forum rules resulting in harsh bans

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-poliera-2020-ot5-guidance-recommends-quarantining-poliera.178039/post-31806459

Remember when enzom and co would call the idea of so called "ban baiting" absurd?  Now they have embraced it as a defense against those who disagree with them.   Just more "if you do it it's bad, if i do it its correct."

How do the mods think we're should feel any pity for them when this was the foundation from day one?

[VomKriege]

I even prefer not seeing threads taking cheap "President Shitbag" jabs in thread titles.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-poliera-2020-ot5-guidance-recommends-quarantining-poliera.178039/post-31808475

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

[HaughtyFrank]

Damn this place is toxic for anyone not 100% participating in a hivemind

watcha gonna do about it? cry?

Damn this place is toxic for anyone not 100% participating in a hivemind

Jesus Christ go look for a shitty centrist forum or something. "centrist" don't contribute absolutely anything to the conversation yet think they're super woke for looking at "both perspectives". You remind me of a friend I just unfollowed on Facebook.

way to prove them wrong, braintrust
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Right, I'm hoping they don't get banned. You should be able to moderately disagree with a thread title without getting fucking pummelled. I disagree with the take too (they are dumbfuck cultists) but we've taken our pound of flesh.

No quarter for death cult apologism, especially not when they are out likely getting people killed

All he said was that the title is needlessly inflammatory

[VomKriege]

Someone several pages back suggested having Mods for the Mods, essentially an "Internal Affairs" group. I was laughing to myself thinking this is an overkill, but on further reflection NeoGAF/ResetEra are basically the size of a large virtual city that's as diverse as New York city if not more.

 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-poliera-2020-ot5-guidance-recommends-quarantining-poliera.178039/post-31808991

[VomKriege]

Yeah. For discourse to work, it needs to be honest discourse. And since moderators don't have a magic ball to see into the hearts of posters, it's difficult to separate honest discussion from dishonest discussion -- but that's where heavy, rules-based, fairly-applied moderation comes into play...

I don't know why you have a collective hard-on for HEAVY moderation but OK I'm following you, seems a fair premise.

...Look at the Biden ad threads. Having watched the ad, claiming that Biden is 'more racist than Trump' (as the first thread title did) was clearly dishonest bullshit -- and I'm glad that thread was locked and reformed.

But look at the current ad thread -- even with the fairer title and moderation statement, it's still a shitshow of dishonest garbage.

(...)

Instead, that thread is full of the same dishonest discussion and shit-stirring that has been popular lately.

I guess it's not so difficult to identify dishonesty after all.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-poliera-2020-ot5-guidance-recommends-quarantining-poliera.178039/post-31809105

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

All he said was that the title is needlessly inflammatory

fucking piece of shit, gtfo with that toxic attitude

[VomKriege]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-poliera-2020-ot5-guidance-recommends-quarantining-poliera.178039/post-31811874

But mainly just realize you're posting on an internet politics forum. If someone calls biden shit that's their prerogative. Get over it, report their post, block them, take time out of the thread to cool off, just stop having crisis and creating spinoff servers/forums because you feel invisible slights from moderation which has been extremely deferential all the way along.

You're not wrong.

[bork]

Someone several pages back suggested having Mods for the Mods, essentially an "Internal Affairs" group. I was laughing to myself thinking this is an overkill, but on further reflection NeoGAF/ResetEra are basically the size of a large virtual city that's as diverse as New York city if not more.

 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-poliera-2020-ot5-guidance-recommends-quarantining-poliera.178039/post-31808991

[D3RANG3D]

 

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

I'm not an expert on internal affairs, but seems to me having posters who are fucking moderators get free passes on shitty behaviour because they are fucking moderators is a conflict of interest.

[Raist]

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"Just some discomfort".

Somebody never got a blood draw from someone who's incompetent (in this case willingly) Shit can mess up your arm real bad.

[headwalk]

can't think of anything ree needs more than a authorised inquisitor class.

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

Good to have a separate thread for this. Grifters have found how easy it is to dupe Trump supporters and this will never stop until Facebook/Twitter ect are forced to curate. These idiots can't be trusted to source things posted on the internet.

cue a thread of people claiming its definitely true because reddit said so, and implying mother jones reporters are alt right disinformation campaigns

[Uncle]

can't think of anything ree needs more than a authorised inquisitor class.

 

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

It's worth reminding folks that basically all these people who pull these acts of severe violent terrorism don't do so on a whim. They research, plan, find communities willing to work with them to foment their ideas and get them to play out in a way that shields them from the most risk. We don't do anything to stop them because it's considered a violation of their first amendment rights. We can only punish them after the events occur -- and this also doesn't get into the fact that these people often hold views shared by members of their municipal police departments.

I would say that not only are cops ineffective at stopping these sorts of people they compound the conditions that mould people into this kind of shape.

This seems like a particularly cunty response to make literally the day after canada suffered one of its worst spree killings ever, and one where an RCMP was literally killed defending others.

Oh yea, I forgot, because 'murica = the world

[HaughtyFrank]

So what do you do? When you see harm being done, when you worry for your safety, when you feel your rights are being violated? What do you do instead of calling the police? How do you keep yourself safe without seeking protection from a system whose default is still surveillance and erasure of others?

We start by shifting our perspective. We start by learning about the racist history of the police. We start by saying, an alternative to this system should exist. We start by pausing before we dial 911. We start by making different choices where we can. We start by getting to know our neighbors and asking them to be a part of this process.

Are they deflecting their own question?

[Momo]

How are these nerds still acting like babies over people calling Biden names

[VomKriege]

This problematic triggering has made me feel unsafe yikes so stop being a gross ghoul.

Is PoliERA the real Hate Machine™ ?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-poliera-2020-ot5-guidance-recommends-quarantining-poliera.178039/post-31819068

[Nintex]

Twitch bae is smart.

She says she looks them up and then she sort of does it in a flirty way: "I know about you guys " Which probably makes it more likely they will donate because she gives them attention.
Remember most breeders do this so they get a little 'adventure' on the side because they've lost interest in their existing relationship, the idea that they could get caught or she could blackmail them or show up at the door makes it more exciting.
This wouldn't work with nervous high school and college dudes who are in a 'I hope mom/sister/girlfriend doesn't find out' situation so she really understands her target audience.

I for one respect her innovative grifting skills 

[VomKriege]

Jesus, another admin dropping by PoliERA to appease summit. What is this ? An Iowa Caucus ?
 

Regarding the bolded, in that case you can report the OP, and explain what the issue is. For example, "Can mods please review this thread? It's devolved into hostility and backseat modding."

On another note, I'm just coming back from a self care break, but I just wanted to say that there's been a lot of good feedback given over the past day here and we're listening, particularly in regards to hostility in the Etcetera section overall. That's also something that we want to tackle, and will be discussing as a team. There is general agreement that not enough has been done to tackle this type of behaviour, even after taking context into account. But I also have to state that some of the suggestions, such as moderating low effort posts that are against Biden, is not something we can do. While doing so may make the experience on the forum better for some, it would be silencing women, minorities, and abuse victims from expressing dissatisfaction against a politician who has let down many people from said marginalised groups. We have made promises to these groups, and protecting them and allowing them to air their concerns without sniping, aggression or dismissal is a part of the mission statement upon which this community was founded. I realise that silencing these groups is not the aim behind the suggestion at all, but that is what would effectively be happening. Staff are tasked with guiding moderation, and I agree that things are not ideal at the moment, and there's a lot more that we can and should be doing. However, I feel that would very much be taking things too far.

I haven't really slept in the past week, so I apologise if any of this is clumsily worded. I really appreciate all of the constructive feedback and criticism from members here. While we can only ever try to do our best, it's by listening to our community that we can improve. We can't take all of the feedback on, but I promise that we will listen, and we do care.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-poliera-2020-ot5-guidance-recommends-quarantining-poliera.178039/post-31820001

[VomKriege]

FREE (NOT BRONSONLEE) 2BEE !

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-poliera-2020-ot5-guidance-recommends-quarantining-poliera.178039/post-31822632

[VomKriege]

love too be told that minority concerns matter when you people unbanned a dude who said that jewish people didn't face hardship in america

also the dude who routinely shits on white women

and you people keep saying report this report that

reports do jack fuck man

i report stuff like a motherfucker and more often than not nothing happens, so i guess i just give up

also apparently you can get banned for reporting too much/not in the right way, which is a fuckin thing

real good shit boss

How is anyone supposed to know what you are referring to with a post like this?

Folks who need to know, know. If you don't know, it doesn't concern you.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-poliera-2020-ot5-guidance-recommends-quarantining-poliera.178039/post-31824795

[bork]

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/resetera-discussion-stay-civil-dont-get-personal-keep-it-in-here.1506304/page-325

Remember that guy who blamed me for his impending suicide back in 2017 because I got #metooed and gaf imploded, and browsing  gaf was the only thing keeping him alive, so his blood was on my hands? They exist.

Pepperidge Farm EviLore remembers.

[VomKriege]

ResetERA : You have 100% ignored my point. Which I sadly expected.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-poliera-2020-ot5-guidance-recommends-quarantining-poliera.178039/post-31824813

[bork]

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/resetera-discussion-stay-civil-dont-get-personal-keep-it-in-here.1506304/page-325

Remember that guy who blamed me for his impending suicide back in 2017 because I got #metooed and gaf imploded, and browsing  gaf was the only thing keeping him alive, so his blood was on my hands? They exist.

Wasn't that the furry dude who just went to go post on Era and continue to threaten suicide every once in a while?

Maybe I'm confusing him with someone else...

Does that even narrow it down? lol.

[stufte]

#FREEKETKAT

[VomKriege]

We know what concern trolling is. We know a bad faith actor when we see one. And if you, as a moderator, don't, then maybe you should have had a regular here as moderator or address these concerns a long time ago.

If bdubs thinks the Biden ad is problematic enough to cause the uproar that it has, like it's the biggest story in the world right now, that's all you need to know about the state of this board. We ALL know it's being blown out of proportion by concern trolling. Where is this story outside of the politically toxic mix of Bernie bros and Trump supporters and the resulting Twitter bubble?

I'm still in awe how they are hammering on those mythical Trump supporters.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-poliera-2020-ot5-guidance-recommends-quarantining-poliera.178039/post-31825773

[Uncle]

[bork]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/somehow-the-man-show-guy-turned-out-to-be-a-better-person-than-ellen-kimmel-paid-stage-hands-out-of-his-own-pocket-ellen-crew-was-union-busted.188436/

Just have to get that dig in at Jimmy Kimmel for being a straight cac male, I guess?

[thisismyusername]

How are these nerds still acting like babies over people calling Biden names

The same way BoredFrom and ShutUp A BLOO BLOO BLOO because me and a few others here don't want to vote for Bidet or Rump.

Oh shit, this wasn't meant for top of the page.

Top of the Page shilling:

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