Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread

[maninthemirror]

This little thread is kind of proof how much much of a political bubble era is in
https://www.resetera.com/threads/rashida-tlaib-boos-hillary-clinton-on-stage.167863/

Even the leftists on stage are being outnumbered on twitter by the left leaning but on era it’s like Hillary = Trump

[HaughtyFrank]

When two people get accused of violence then they both are abusers not exactly hard to work out is it...

https://www.resetera.com/threads/audio-indicating-amber-heard-abused-johnny-depp.167950/post-28753274

Does he know about the concept of lying?

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

Huh, I wonder why RedMercury is all up in that topic pretending that nobody would have been banned if they'd tried to pull a "she probably deserved it" or "they're probably as bad as each other" post upon first allegations.



Oh, right.
Here's why.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-trouble-with-johnny-depp-a-rolling-stone-expos%C3%A9.50774/page-4

[Propagandhim]

It's just a forum, RedMercury.

[Pissy F Benny]

plus it’s a forum without likes 

[ldcommando (notthegafone)]

Beefy is catching a whopping in that Depp thread, so fucking funny. He is so mad people are calling him out on his bullshit.

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

Beefy is catching a whopping in that Depp thread, so fucking funny. He is so mad people are calling him out on his bullshit.

don't worry, slayven poodlestrikes sorting it

[nachobro]

Beefy taking a beating in that thread and suddenly

Locking while we review reports and figure out how to move forward. This is a serious topic, and we need to be careful on how to handle it.

 

[Klelk]

Beefy should get banned but won't, the piece of shit

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

What they should do:
"In future we're not going to let you start attacking other members for expressing a 'wait and see' attitude towards unsubstantiated allegations, and we're not going to ban people for 'downplaying' for expressing scepticism before the facts are known"

What they'll actually do:
"Reopened, and even though there's obvious double standards, some posters just get a free pass on stuff because reasons, so don't report protected users for obvious hypocrisy because we're not going to do anything about it. Also those of you pointing it out got banned. Lawls."

[Nintex]

When is resetera going private so only registered members can view posts? With kiwi bots spying on us, it's becoming necessary imo.

DO IT ! 

Era had an even better idea once.
The idea was that the board would be private and every member had to verify with a personal call from their personal phone number. 

Also Depp just needs to give Kushner a call and become ambassador to the UK for the US.

[Great Rumbler]

When two people get accused of violence then they both are abusers not exactly hard to work out is it...

https://www.resetera.com/threads/audio-indicating-amber-heard-abused-johnny-depp.167950/post-28753274

Does he know about the concept of lying?

BELIEVE *clap* WOMEN *clap*

[HaughtyFrank]

What they should do:
"In future we're not going to let you start attacking other members for expressing a 'wait and see' attitude towards unsubstantiated allegations, and we're not going to ban people for 'downplaying' for expressing scepticism before the facts are known"

What they'll actually do:
"Reopened, and even though there's obvious double standards, some posters just get a free pass on stuff because reasons, so don't report protected users for obvious hypocrisy because we're not going to do anything about it. Also those of you pointing it out got banned. Lawls."

I like how Beefy argued that we can't be a 100% certain that Depp is innocent.

If it is only him protecting himself than he did no wrong, if it isn't he did wrong. We have no idea if he was just protecting himself. Is it looking more and more likely he was? Yes. But again we can't be 100% with that.

So close to realizing why it's so difficult to judge these cases from the outside and yet so far.

[Rman]

Lol at mods rescuing one of their protected members with the thread lock.

Place is so overmoderated for all the wrong reasons.

[nachobro]

This is obviously a thorny issue. Heard is clearly abusing Depp, and her allegations are as yet unproven. However, while it would seem there is not sufficient evidence to completely discount her assertion that Depp abused her, it's become clear that her abuse of him was primary in the relationship. Going forward, do not equivocate between the two. Any downplaying of Heard's abusive behavior will be moderated harshly.

As this thread is better constructed, we're going to leave the old one locked and move discussion here.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/justiceforjohnnydepp-trending-following-amber-heard-admitting-to-hitting-and-throwing-pots-pans-and-vases-at-depp-in-leaked-audio-see-staff-post.167967/post-28755894

aka "please ignore beefy being getting rekt, let's just start over"

[Rahxephon91]

Yeah I'd expect Ree to understand the complexity and nuance of male and female relationships.

[Tuckers Law]

  did they really start a new thread to protect Beefy of all people 

[james]

ALWAYS

BELIEVE

WOMEN

[Tripon]

Is beefy a woman?

[TVC15]

[shosta]

Goes to show that while stepping up for the victims is important, we should wait for all the facts before jumping to conclusions and condemn someone in the public square.

How is this not banable?

[BisMarckie]

shosta abused me mentally and physically in our 2 years long forum relationship

[shosta]

I never abused BisMarckie or any other woman.

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/AlexanderDHall/status/1223783531723345920
https://twitter.com/atPeteDodd/status/1223519436096921600
https://twitter.com/guek_jc/status/1223245355942400000

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

This is actually a rare, perfect example of “cancel culture gone wrong.” I remember people on here were ready stop watching Depp movies (and he’s definitely not getting as many roles as he used to) because of this controversy, but we never had all the facts. People are also less likely to believe male victims of abuse.

It being so rare indicates that "cancel culture" isn't really a thing, is the thing. The general public reacted as any people would react in the situation, they were misled and made a judgment. That is not a new phenomenon, people have been manipulating people since people were a thing probably. If it weren't for the internet, it would be tabloids, if not for that, the papers, if before papers, word of mouth. There has always been a shitty aspect of people making judgments off incomplete information because it's just what people do. Everyone who has ever lived has had an opinion about something they did not know 100% about.

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[Joe Molotov]

What they should do:
"In future we're not going to let you start attacking other members for expressing a 'wait and see' attitude towards unsubstantiated allegations, and we're not going to ban people for 'downplaying' for expressing scepticism before the facts are known"

What they'll actually do:
"Reopened, and even though there's obvious double standards, some posters just get a free pass on stuff because reasons, so don't report protected users for obvious hypocrisy because we're not going to do anything about it. Also those of you pointing it out got banned. Lawls."

Women and have been told to wait and see for 6 billion years, so how about you FUCK OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF?

[Pwnz]

Wait, the woman with abuser history is the guilty one and not the man without a record? It's the exception. In most cases it's the one with the penis because believe all women you bigoted cunts.

[BisMarckie]

I never abused BisMarckie or any other woman.

Joke's on you, I gave you chlamydia.

[HaughtyFrank]

That's because at the time with the information that is available there is usually only one right opinion. It doesn't do much good to share an opinion in the moment that downplays something for a future date that may never come, if you feel like you want to wait to have an opinion you can do that but I don't know what kind of discussion it is to post it.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/justiceforjohnnydepp-trending-following-amber-heard-admitting-to-hitting-and-throwing-pots-pans-and-vases-at-depp-in-leaked-audio-see-staff-post.167967/post-28757205

 

[OnlyRegret]

This is actually a rare, perfect example of “cancel culture gone wrong.” I remember people on here were ready stop watching Depp movies (and he’s definitely not getting as many roles as he used to) because of this controversy, but we never had all the facts. People are also less likely to believe male victims of abuse.

It being so rare indicates that "cancel culture" isn't really a thing, is the thing. The general public reacted as any people would react in the situation, they were misled and made a judgment. That is not a new phenomenon, people have been manipulating people since people were a thing probably. If it weren't for the internet, it would be tabloids, if not for that, the papers, if before papers, word of mouth. There has always been a shitty aspect of people making judgments off incomplete information because it's just what people do. Everyone who has ever lived has had an opinion about something they did not know 100% about.

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"cancel culture" is at its most effective when you can leverage a class advantage and capital to deprive a poor of means of sustainment, see: uber "contractors"
you can't effectively cancel someone who isn't in a vulnerable state so that's why they whine cancel culture isn't a thing because it's hard to cancel multimillionaires

[pgtl_10]

Anyone else notice the Blizzard troll in the Warcraft thread?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/warcraft-3-reforged-reviews-63-on-metacritic.167757/

People have a right to be mad but it doesn't change the fact the underlying game is still brilliant. A brilliant game with a mound of crap on it - 60 ish seems fair.

None of this changes the fact that the gameplay is great, the story is blizzard at their peak and the new models are decent. Being a shit version of Warcraft 3 doesn't stop it still being Warcraft 3. You seriously think this is worse than bad rats?

This isn't a review of Blizzards shitty practices. It's a review of a game. A very good game that's been made significantly worse in many ways, but still.. a good game.

Again, yes it's fair to significantly lower the score. Again, that doesn't make the game 0.8/10. They could replace every unit model with a picture of Donald Trumps face and it would still deserve a higher score than that because Warcraft 3 is good.

How much does Blizzard pay to get someone to stan their game?

[Boredfrom]

That's because at the time with the information that is available there is usually only one right opinion. It doesn't do much good to share an opinion in the moment that downplays something for a future date that may never come, if you feel like you want to wait to have an opinion you can do that but I don't know what kind of discussion it is to post it.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/justiceforjohnnydepp-trending-following-amber-heard-admitting-to-hitting-and-throwing-pots-pans-and-vases-at-depp-in-leaked-audio-see-staff-post.167967/post-28757205

 

You could just said you don’t give a fuck and just want to bitch on the Internet to feel superior.

[Tripon]

How did RedMercury get protection when he's probably a white boy?

[Pwnz]

How did RedMercury get protection when he's probably a white boy?

He probably accused a dude.

So believe him or STFU. #ModsHelpppp

[Potato]

It's 2020, how the fuck are people still talking about Johnny Depp and Amber "male abuser" Heard?

Also, male domestic violence victims? How The Fuck are male domestic violence victims Real Hahahaha nicca Just Walk Away From The woman Like nicca walk away Haha

[Switters]

There's a technique you can use when you are being attacked called adrenaline dumping which confuses your attacker and makes them reassess their actions.

In most cases one would shout nonsensical phrases like WATER MELON DONUT or WITHSTRAINING ORDER at the aggressor.

Me, I'm gonna be like hol up, check out this Lil Tay video.

[remy]

Man I can't believe hunter s Thompson let Johnny Depp shoot his ashes out of a cannon when hd can't even win in a fight with Amber heard wtf

[team filler]

https://twitter.com/leastimnotfugly/status/1223632149695197185

 

[Boredfrom]

https://graziadaily.co.uk/celebrity/news/amber-heard-johnny-depp-domestic-violence-allegations/

[Transhuman]

https://twitter.com/leastimnotfugly/status/1223632149695197185

 

People forget Obama was against gay marriage before he "changed his mind". Being against gay marriage used to gain you more homophobe votes than it loses you homosexual votes.

[TVC15]

[team filler]

 

[clothedmacuser]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/justiceforjohnnydepp-trending-following-amber-heard-admitting-to-hitting-and-throwing-pots-pans-and-vases-at-depp-in-leaked-audio-see-staff-post.167967/post-28756257

I think it speaks more to Heard's manipulation and lying that she allowed it to perpetuate than anything regarding the general public. She could have stopped that in its tracks but chose not to, deliberately. When people see abuse, it's a natural reaction to want to come out against it because it sucks. In cases like this, we're never going to have a 100% accounting of every single thing that went down so opinions are going to be formulated with incomplete info much of the time. Now that there is more info, the general public will likely shift the other way.

Let's say you have a brother, and I spread a rumor in his town that your brother was in prison for 20 years. I say it over and over again, I offer proof of my claims, I get the media involved in it, eventually people are going to come to the conclusion it's true- not because they are bad people, but because they have been manipulated. I just think instead of attacking people who were honestly reacting to what at the time seemed a clear case of abuse, the ire should be directed at the person who propagated it when they knew the whole truth.

The real victim was the RedMercury all along.  Poor guy got manipulated 

[shosta]

When you let yourself get "manipulated" by a person without evidence, that's called being a simple ass motherfucker

[shosta]

That said, nothing here contradicts any of the evidence that had us believing Depp's guilt in the first place. His former business manager has publicly backed her claims. There are apparently texts from the time backing her claims. You can find just a bit of that at https://jezebel.com/johnny-depps-former-business-managers-say-he-abused-amb-1796400980 . Does that mean he wasn't a victim as well? No, of course not. The tapes also seem to suggest he's the one who was trying to take steps to stop the cycle while she was trying to continue it, which is gross. We don't know what happened before and just isn't mentioned here though and we certainly don't know if things escalated at a later point in their relationship. Abusive relationships are toxic and often bring out the worst in people. So while I certainly support him in making his own claims against her, I still haven't seen anything that makes the evidence she's presented in the past less compelling.

So many people in this thread trying to split the difference. Disgusting.

[shosta]

Stuff like this hurts my soul. I remember when the news first broke about Amber Heard accusing Johnny Depp. I was saddened, but I did what I thought I should which is believe her.

After seeing the transcripts, to know that the coup de grace of her abuse was to accuse him and make him a pariah? And, to have helped her abuse him in some way by proxy? I feel like I just need to go sit in the shower and just figure out where the human race and my life went wrong.

All of these people absolutely devastated and crying in the shower could have just been a little more cautious in the first place.

[shosta]

Innocent until proven guilty. Such a simple concept that I like to believe in

That can be a dangerous ideology to apply in every case. A lot of victims never get justice because they don't have proof.

are you fucking kidding me

[OnlyRegret]

whoa there, benji2

[clothedmacuser]

Innocent until proven guilty. Such a simple concept that I like to believe in

That can be a dangerous ideology to apply in every case. A lot of victims never get justice because they don't have proof.

are you fucking kidding me

RM is Mr. "Death threats are ok if the person is bad."

I think he was the guy that argued just because a certain celeb he didn't like was proven to not have raped a girl we shouldn't assume he wasn't a rapist.  Maybe he had done so in another instance?  He is easily the most fascist tyrant supporter on the forum.

[BIONIC]

whoa there, benji2

Terrible comparison.

Benji is actually likable

spoiler (click to show/hide)

And he didn’t physically abuse KennyMarckie

[close]

[OnlyRegret]

whoa there, benji2

Terrible comparison.

Benji is actually likable

spoiler (click to show/hide)

And he didn’t physically abuse KennyMarckie

[close]

I have sinned and so retract.

[Bore Expert]

When you let yourself get "manipulated" by a person without evidence, that's called being a simple ass motherfucker

It’s also referred to as being a Ree mod.

 

[clothedmacuser]

When you let yourself get "manipulated" by a person without evidence, that's called being a simple ass motherfucker

But what about the statistics?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/justiceforjohnnydepp-trending-following-amber-heard-admitting-to-hitting-and-throwing-pots-pans-and-vases-at-depp-in-leaked-audio-see-staff-post.167967/post-28757924

If we want to be more accurate, we can say allegations by minorities are largely accurate (see statistics on sexual assault/rape allegations for example)

This was the same argument used for J-man.

It's like saying, "well statistically most presidents aren't impeached so why should Trump?"      


Maybe use your fucking brain. 

[shosta]

But what about the statistics?

We want to start going by statistics, now, huh?

[Transhuman]

It boggles my mind that people believed Heard. The stories Depp told painted her like a fucking psycho and then she never denied them.

[shosta]

Someone responding to RedMercury but is equally peanut brained:

I wonder why you feel the need to downplay what is said on Era so much. This is a large and influential forum. If what we said here didn't matter, then why can't people say they want to wait for more information? It seems like anytime this site collectively gets something wrong there are people that point out that it doesn't matter what we say here. I think it does, which is why certain things should be banned. This forum does have some impact on popular opinion, even if it's small.

Many of the public accusations I'm familiar with have been questionable. Which is why I think it's best to wait for proof before condemning someone. Apparently we aren't going to agree on this.

[clothedmacuser]

But what about the statistics?

We want to start going by statistics, now, huh?

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Could you remove my quote from that.  I'm not really feeling it.

[Nintex]

Amber Heard is cray

Still you know 

[Transhuman]

I don't know