Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread

[HaughtyFrank]

they keep circling the wagons on how people are "more pissed about" the looting than the murder

Not people, just the one group of people they like to cast as the cartoon baddies.

I must admit though, I found it weird how many white protesters I saw on the streams. Got to be as welcome as a fart in a spacesuit.

One guy who was filming footage for Unicorn Riot which is a is a decentralized, educational 501(c)(3) non-profit media organization of artists and journalists. Our work is dedicated to exposing root causes of dynamic social and environmental issues through amplifying stories and exploring sustainable alternatives in today’s globalized world.

He was filming and his friend came up to him after being punched in the face.  "dude, why did they punch you?"  "He said white people suck and hit me.  It doesn't matter, it's cool.  It looks worse than it is." 

At least those guys burning down an autozone and releasing toxic fumes have balls.

In the protesters defense, someone who joins a group called "unicorn riot" deserves a punch in the face

[Don Rumata]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/protests-in-minneapolis-over-police-killing-of-george-floyd-police-response-is-more-severe-than-when-white-supremacists-stormed-capitol-weeks-ago.213759/page-14#post-35199345

Screw the police, but no one should be attacking first responders.

Institutions that are just as racist as law enforcement.

Get out of here with this shit.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/protests-in-minneapolis-over-police-killing-of-george-floyd-police-response-is-more-severe-than-when-white-supremacists-stormed-capitol-weeks-ago.213759/page-17#post-35201439

And you're calling me racist for wanting the firefighters to be left alone so they can do their job and save lives.

Your concern trolling makes that easy and so does your pitiful attempt to accuse the protesters as the ones engaging in this behavior.

The fact that you don't actually understand systemic racism and its influence throughout countless institutions, including yes, EMT and Fire, is problematic. Wish stamping it out was as easy as your privilege affords you to think it is.

Nice forum you got there etc etc..

Love the dark descent into full on anarchist dementia.

Eat the rich. 
Fuck the police. 
Fuck the Government. 
Burn private property. 
Burn Firefighters.
Rape doctors. 
Kill nurses. 
Set off those nukes! 

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Pre-order PS5. 

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[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

Of course era identify primarily with the looters, and not the protesters.

The protesters were out there trying to enact change through legal means and were exercising their civil rights.
If you're worried about an overly militaised police force, that's how you reduce it.
That's why police forces in other countries that don't want that use agents provocateurs to infiltrate peaceful protests and turn them violent. Because it then gives them grounds to push back harder.

Looters don't give a fuck about any of that. They just see an opportunity to fuck someone elses shit up and maybe enrich themselves, and they take it.
Which is the era poster mentality in a nutshell.

Also note how much angrier and how many posts there were about central park karen than about the unlawful killing of a suspect in police custody while they about people caring more about "order" than "justice" until they had to jump in and defend the indefensible as is their wont

[Tektonic]

Someone needs to remind this resetti that burning down target means one less place to purchase Disney's STAR WARS: EPISODE IX - THE RISE OF SKY WALKER which is out now on 4K Blu-Ray.

ahem, resetti only need TLJ on bluray, which any true ally would have already.
still it does prevent them from buying another copy in solidarity with POC like Finn & his girlfriend* Rose Tico

*for one movie only

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

This week was pretty sweet bruh, I harrassed some bitch cunt on twitter and got her fired, then got me a new phone and a crate of liquor.
I'm only mad I paid for some shit I wanted with my stimulus check when I could have just waited. It's cool, I'll do a chargeback.

[Uncle]

the current official line at era

They've been protesting peacefully for years, because Minneapolis police have been killing people (and especially Black people) for years. This isn't an overnight shift.

Peaceful protest did fuck all to secure justice. It wasn't the way either. What do you think that leaves people with?

The only peaceful protest that has ever acomplished anything by itself is a strike because the only thing the powers that be care about is material. A riot is a completely valid form of protest

Pretty much. If your protest movement doesn't fuck with the flow of capital, it will only accomplish anything on the whims of the powerful.

Because on its own non-violence is completely ineffectual at creating any real, systemic change.

peaceful protest doesn't work!  only violent protest gets you real results!

meanwhile back on previous pages

How do riots fare in US history? do they bring changes at least at local level?

Not really... Rodney King happened in the 90's....we're still dealing with this almost 30 years later

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

In any form of democracy the only change that occurs is through peaceful means, because it has to be enacted by some kind of vote and everyone knows that you don't capitulate to terrorism.

People on era like to pretend otherwise because they just want an excuse to be the deplorables they are.
You didn't get gay marriage from car bombs. You didn't get baby steps towards affordable healthcare by firebombing ambulances.

[clothedmacuser]

I can't wait till they go full Cambodian and agree to kill everyone with glasses.

[porkbun]

This maybe me acting white here, but surely looting target in the middle of a pandemic is only going to make getting food etc later on harder for a while?

There's a grocery store next to it that hasn't been looted AFAIK.  But that Target is a major employer in the area and is staffed by mostly minorities making a decent wage ($12/hour in Minneapolis is pretty high for non skilled work).  Not to mention all of the other local mom and pop businesses that are being looted/vandalized, or the shutdown of the transit system that will force many people to not be able to work for at least a day or two (a major issue for people living paycheck to paycheck).

I 100% agree that what that cop did was wrong.  I used to live a couple of blocks from Cup Foods and the neighborhood cops were assholes, especially to black people.  The protesters can overturn all the cop cars they want.  But ultimately, the real purpose of the rage was lost fairly quickly and now we just have a group of thugs (of all races from different parts of the city) just trying to get free shit so they can gloat about it on Twitter.  It's sad.

[jorma]

the LANDLORDS probably have INSURANCE anyway

burn the whole city down until white genocide ends

(Image removed from quote.)

Speaking of which:

Minneapolis protesters started looting a Target
And white people are more pissed about that (insured property whose value amounts to a rounding error for Target) than the guy fucking murdered on the streets
some idiots were like "omg what if it was your business huh??", like just anyone is ceo of fucking target
they didn't loot a local mom-n-pop, but for The Whites that distinction doesn't seem to matter

Someone needs to remind this resetti that burning down target means one less place to purchase Disney's STAR WARS: EPISODE IX - THE RISE OF SKY WALKER which is out now on 4K Blu-Ray.

or you could tell them they can download a copy off the internet for free if their local target has been burned down

oh no wait they'll ban you so hard for that 

[Transhuman]

Man the twitter footage of that Target looting was just awful. Here are my tips

-Travel in a pair if possible so you can take shit from other looters and divide tasks ("Go grab some bags while break open this cabinet")
-Go for smartphones/tablets/smartwatches first if possible (high value small dimensions) should be in draws/ cabinets in electronics section, as well as display cases
-Backpacks, suitcases. This means once you're outside you can just put them straight into your car, or if you're walking, it means you're not pushing a trolley full of obviously looted shit
-If you can't find those, go for a pillowcase and do it Santa style
-If you're very late to looting wait outside the store for looter to come out, and then just grab the most expensive thing out of their trolley and bolt (it's not in their interest to leave their trolley and chase you)
-Don't show weakness to the other looters. Act erratic: if they're scared of you, they'll give you a wider berth
-Remember that while the most important thing is to have fun you're also time-limited so don't don't waste any. Cover up, get in, get out, get gone.
-Burn the clothes you were wearing that day, don't brag to anyone about it, if you went high-end, sit on that shit for at least a month

[Uncle]

[Uncle]

In any form of democracy the only change that occurs is through peaceful means, because it has to be enacted by some kind of vote and everyone knows that you don't capitulate to terrorism.

People on era like to pretend otherwise because they just want an excuse to be the deplorables they are.
You didn't get gay marriage from car bombs. You didn't get baby steps towards affordable healthcare by firebombing ambulances.

however you also don't win friends with salad

[Straight Edge]

Looting is going to embolden some “stand-your-ground” gun nut to shoot one of them.

[Tektonic]

[Transhuman]

Looting is going to embolden some “stand-your-ground” gun nut to shoot one of them.

Surprised it hasn't happened already to be honest.

Are those reports of a civilian hitting protestors with their car multiple times true? I heard someone say it but I can't find a source.

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

These truly are extraordinary times.

Transhuman posted a funny bit.

[porkbun]

Looting is going to embolden some “stand-your-ground” gun nut to shoot one of them.

Already happened.  A pawn shop owner shot and killed a looter.

[Uncle]

era:

It's not like anybody would be paying any attention to the protesters or having any of these conversations if they were all dressed in surfer shorts, singing kumbaya, quoting Gandhi, and assuming the lotus position to summon good vibes from the universe.

no media coverage of the protests at all unless it's violent. got it.

also era:

It's amazing how this is not being covered on msm as sort of a historic moment In history. I know it's a joke to keep up the status quo. But damn. Very much obvious at this point.

[Coitus]

In any form of democracy the only change that occurs is through peaceful means, because it has to be enacted by some kind of vote and everyone knows that you don't capitulate to terrorism.

People on era like to pretend otherwise because they just want an excuse to be the deplorables they are.
You didn't get gay marriage from car bombs. You didn't get baby steps towards affordable healthcare by firebombing ambulances.

took burning down birmingham to get the civil rights act.

[Uncle]

Man, if that one protester hadn't been killed, this may have ended up being as good as riots ever get.

the riots are about the death of one man who had family, aspirations, a life cut short

a life is lost in protest of a life being lost: "gee other than that one dude this has been pretty lit"

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/was-yogi-bear-a-victim-of-circumstance-or-criminal-scum.214362/

For me, nonviolent protests only work when the people protesting are either part of the hegemony itself or if the institution that they’re protesting against inherently functions to serve them.

[bork]

https://www.siliconera.com/dead-or-alive-xtreme-venus-vacations-nagisa-has-made-her-debut-in-the-english-version/

This article was put up by the site EIC.

In the comments:

The objectification of characters and questioning sexual preferences of community members will not be tolerated on the website. If this continues, bans will be implemented to those continuing to do so.

[bork]

https://twitter.com/Kotaku/status/1265713809563385856

The comments 

[Ghoul]

https://www.siliconera.com/dead-or-alive-xtreme-venus-vacations-nagisa-has-made-her-debut-in-the-english-version/

This article was put up by the site EIC.

In the comments:

The objectification of characters and questioning sexual preferences of community members will not be tolerated on the website. If this continues, bans will be implemented to those continuing to do so.

Staff do it it's fine? Community,

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

https://www.siliconera.com/dead-or-alive-xtreme-venus-vacations-nagisa-has-made-her-debut-in-the-english-version/

This article was put up by the site EIC.

In the comments:

The objectification of characters and questioning sexual preferences of community members will not be tolerated on the website. If this continues, bans will be implemented to those continuing to do so.

They're not playing it for the waifu collecting, they're playing it for those sweet sweet gacha mechanics?

[Ghoul]

Gacha mechanics. Ugly chicks as low tier volley ball players,

[jorma]

These truly are extraordinary times.

Transhuman posted a funny bit.

that's how you know he wasn't joking 

[Uncle]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Minneapolis/comments/gs0vm4/this_is_the_man_who_smashed_the_windows_of/

White dude concealed, was one of the first to smash windows and get the crowd going while POC try to stop him and he slinks off.

i-is this guy a hero or are we supposed to hate him?  I thought destruction of property was a natural consequence of the fucked up situation and fun for the whole family


era: burning down buildings is good, but if it's not, it was the whites

[Uncle]

No Justice, No Peace
Black Lives Matter
Hands Up, Don’t Shoot

...

Shoot At Us, We Shoot Back

yes, you can clearly see the energy evolve over time.This country still have us resorting to tearing shit up in order to get some basic fucking crumb of human rights.

We will defend our lives, it’s a promise

in the very next breath 3 minutes later

https://www.reddit.com/r/Minneapolis/comments/gs0vm4/this_is_the_man_who_smashed_the_windows_of/

White dude concealed, was one of the first to smash windows and get the crowd going while POC try to stop him and he slinks off.

Cops do Op shit like that. That’s basic law enforcement tactics, FBI/CIA

Even if that person has no affiliation, same tactic. Doing escalatory shit to incite chaos within a high tension environment

"ACAB, we WILL defend ourselves and riot  "

"the only reason we're rioting is because the cops started it as an op to make us look bad"

[ShutUp]

I mean, all these places have insurance I would imagine so it's the insurance companies paying out that suffer but also fuck them anyway.

  are the insurance companies racist now too or what?

[Uncle]

Same shit happens evertywhere: cops kills a poor-minority-protester, people go ape shit for justice, other people in the comfort of their homes start crying about buildings.

Peak late capitalism, a building is more important than the lives of the people, than the whole corrupt system in place that allows it.

what actually happens:

people in the comfort of their homes start chanting for violence and destruction of property as long as it's NIMBY, hurr explosions fun to see, next week the people who actually have to live there realize how bad they just fucked themselves over

[ShutUp]

Era not getting why people are bringing up the burning buildings is definitely some peak Era shit.

[Uncle]

everyone was karen

[Straight Edge]

Increased insurance premiums will result in higher store prices, dummies.

[Uncle]

Been listening to Minnesota Public Radio this morning, and their reporters down there are on the air saying the destruction is way worse than you've seen on the news last night and this morning, which are mainly focusing on the Target and autozone and the large buildings in the vicinity. According to MPR, the destruction stretches for "miles", and that many small businesses have been looted and/or torched as well. And its still ongoing.

I'm not concerned about buildings, rioting is good and just

[porkbun]

Does it take rioting/looting to get attention for these issues or does it take away from it?  I personally think it's at least at risk of taking away from it.

Yeah there's no real cut and dry way to go about it.  I know a lot of cops in Minneapolis are pissed at the mayor because he has mandated that they not target people for street level crimes like loitering, public intox, small drug amounts, etc.  I think that the cop's actions were definitely a reaction to that, and the tin foil hat in me doesn't dispute that at least some of the rioting/looting actions were initiated by police or plants/sympathizers in order to swing more authority back to the cops. 

But ultimately, people trashing a Target and whooping it up while they are taking out TVs and posting it to Twitter totally undermines what started the outrage in the first place.  Again, it's just sad to me.  The neighborhood is not "good" by any means, but it's mostly because of isolated pockets of asshole dumb thugs.  Most of the residents are just trying to get by and, in the end, these negative actions are going to affect them the most.

[jorma]

I was at the Seattle "WTO riots";  it was a bunch of peaceful protesters who at most were blocking streets without permit.

The "Anarchists" showed up;  they were looting/punching random protesters, etc.  all without the Police doing anything to stop them.   Like literally cops watching peaceful protesters getting beaten up from a few feet away.

It was all plain and obvious why it was being let to happen;  there was maybe a dozen anarchists running around causing it all..they easily could have been stopped/arrested... to the cheers of the actual protesters.   But that's not what the Police wanted;  they wanted them to cause damage, make the news, associate the violence with the protests, etc.  All of which justified their response;  which was to gas / shoot rubber bullets at the people blocking the streets being non violent.

There was actually a local news report confused about it all;  they showed that the "Anarchists" were staying at a certain hostel...hanging a banner from the windows.  The news said they'd contacted the Police to let them know where the anarchists were so they could arrest them.  Peaceful protesters had showed up to tell the Anarchists to fuck off;  the local news actually reported that the Police, instead of arresting them.. escorted them safely to another hostile.

Was one of the more obvious conspiracies in history to be honest;  witnessed it with my own eyes and on my own local news.  There were no "anarchists"; just cops paid to loot.   Eventually they had cops marching through the streets, literally marching, with "tanks" that shot tear gas.   

The Clinton admin was disgusting with it's escalation of militarization of Americas police forces, then the Bush admin ran with it after 9/11 selling literal surplus military supplies to our Police.  The cops love this stuff as it gives them an excuse to use their weapons.

Now my hope is these riots today are getting too much attention for them to use those kind of tacticts;  because that murder and coverup are completely fucked up and I truly do think it represents a common attitude of de-humanization of black people by US cops.. but people really should be careful with rioting/looting as in the past it's simply been used as an excuse to end protests.   

Does it take rioting/looting to get attention for these issues or does it take away from it?  I personally think it's at least at risk of taking away from it.

i'm not gonna pretend i don't think the acabs were capable of instigating some looting violence, but if you're trying to tell us that the entire black bloc were actually cops i'm gonna have to express some doubt.jpg

[ShutUp]

He's probably already indoctrinated his children with his vile racist views and groomed the next generation.

So if the kids somehow get hurt fuck them too.

Imagine having this view and being serious about it. Should be an immediate ban but that won't happen.

[Uncle]

Most of the residents are just trying to get by and, in the end, these negative actions are going to affect them the most.

don't worry they'll be fine they're gonna get crowdfunded

[Propagandhim]

Thanks for that guarantee boxter432

[Boredfrom]

Being honest, I remember Gaf being as bloodthirsty as RE right now. The same users are now surprised that this stuff has minimal effect or that people care more about a pandemic.

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

I was at the Seattle "WTO riots";  it was a bunch of peaceful protesters who at most were blocking streets without permit.

The "Anarchists" showed up;  they were looting/punching random protesters, etc.  all without the Police doing anything to stop them.   Like literally cops watching peaceful protesters getting beaten up from a few feet away.

It was all plain and obvious why it was being let to happen;  there was maybe a dozen anarchists running around causing it all..they easily could have been stopped/arrested... to the cheers of the actual protesters.   But that's not what the Police wanted;  they wanted them to cause damage, make the news, associate the violence with the protests, etc.  All of which justified their response;  which was to gas / shoot rubber bullets at the people blocking the streets being non violent.

There was actually a local news report confused about it all;  they showed that the "Anarchists" were staying at a certain hostel...hanging a banner from the windows.  The news said they'd contacted the Police to let them know where the anarchists were so they could arrest them.  Peaceful protesters had showed up to tell the Anarchists to fuck off;  the local news actually reported that the Police, instead of arresting them.. escorted them safely to another hostile.

Was one of the more obvious conspiracies in history to be honest;  witnessed it with my own eyes and on my own local news.  There were no "anarchists"; just cops paid to loot.   Eventually they had cops marching through the streets, literally marching, with "tanks" that shot tear gas.   

The Clinton admin was disgusting with it's escalation of militarization of Americas police forces, then the Bush admin ran with it after 9/11 selling literal surplus military supplies to our Police.  The cops love this stuff as it gives them an excuse to use their weapons.

Now my hope is these riots today are getting too much attention for them to use those kind of tacticts;  because that murder and coverup are completely fucked up and I truly do think it represents a common attitude of de-humanization of black people by US cops.. but people really should be careful with rioting/looting as in the past it's simply been used as an excuse to end protests.   

Does it take rioting/looting to get attention for these issues or does it take away from it?  I personally think it's at least at risk of taking away from it.

yeah, its a common tactic to use agents provocateur to pull sympathy away from legitimate protest and undermine it.
I don't think thats what happened here because the dipshit cops were already using tear gas while it was still a peaceful protest, and public sympathy was already with the protesters. They lose that support when protest becomes a riot.

I don't think the authorities here were smart enough to be making that play. If they'd held off on the tear gas until after things had started turning, they could have buried this much more successfully.

[ShutUp]

Again. White "liberals" love to tout their liberalism as long as it doesn't cost them anything. They'll speak correctly (most of the time), put people of color in ads, etc., but will they make sacrifices for POC? No.

This is the difference of a ally and a "liberal" when you have the opportunity to opt out, do you? That says it all.

Proceeds to not opt out and keep on doing everything he does normally Every day

[Propagandhim]

https://twitter.com/trackingalex_/status/1266005901175119878


At least we have boxter432's donation guarantees.

 

[Uncle]

 

[HaughtyFrank]

Again. White "liberals" love to tout their liberalism as long as it doesn't cost them anything. They'll speak correctly (most of the time), put people of color in ads, etc., but will they make sacrifices for POC? No.

This is the difference of a ally and a "liberal" when you have the opportunity to opt out, do you? That says it all.

Proceeds to not opt out and keep on doing everything he does normally Every day

I for one am smashing windows while these good for nothing protesters try to stop me.

[Uncle]

it only makes sense that violent anarchists would stay at a hostile

[ShutUp]

Someone should ask commedieu if they will go to Minneapolis and help rebuild the area and chip in to pay for some of the damages. Actually, ask everyone in that thread who doesn't live there. Thread will likely become quiet real quick.

[Uncle]

Someone should ask commedieu if they will go to Minneapolis and help rebuild the area and chip in to pay for some of the damages. Actually, ask everyone in that thread who doesn't live there. Thread will likely become quiet real quick.

firefighters aren't putting out fires in solidarity with the protesters, that applies to rebuilding too

if the protesters want buildings destroyed, they're gonna fucking stay destroyed

[Propagandhim]

You're all lamenting the destruction of the city and my ass is thinking about how to get HMO companies to start stocking TVs and appliances.

#achievesinglepayer

[Propagandhim]

What if we start selling them in 'HMO stores' like Tesla sells solar panels in their car showrooms?

 

[Uncle]

I don't want to keep harping on this but at this point I feel like this needs to be catalogued so that in a year when a bunch of minority-owned small businesses never recover and people in the area are desperate because they lost their jobs at the stores up in smoke we can look back at the glee from someone miles away who doesn't have to deal with any of that shit

[Propagandhim]

Tango-9, this is Foxtrot, come in.  Can you read? 
Yes, this is Tango-9.
Tango, we have a very important cashier at the Rite-Aid on first and third.  She needs to be....disposed of.

[SmokyDave]

The rioting and looting is pointless and counter-productive, but until I come up with a better alternative, I'm not going to look down my nose at them for it. The situation with police brutality in the US is fucking insane, I don't think there is a 'proper' way for the citizenry to react. To be honest, in a country with more guns than people and that much seething anger, I was amazed to see the police standing outside their station, like sitting ducks waiting to catch a bullet. Seems things aren't that bad yet though. The escalation from such an event would be more than anyone wants to deal with, I guess.

I dunno, the whole thing sucks shit.

Fuck resetera.

[BisMarckie]

All these people going „no biggie, it‘s all insured“ never had to deal with insurance companies, especially if it involves a large payout.

[Straight Edge]

Wondering what the ban message would be if someone posted "I hope these looters are identified and prosecuted."

[Uncle]

in fact this point has been made on era many times as one of the other downfalls of capitalism...

[BisMarckie]

Some dude totalled my new car while it was parked. The car was literally one week old. I had to go to court to be awarded 80% of the price two years later. If I didn‘t do the shit myself, paying the lawyer fees in advance would have wrecked me financially.

Insurance is a scam.

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

Just a head's up for folks that might want to share things on social media. Be careful to not share anything that might show a good look of faces of those protesting. We do not want another situation like in Ferguson where a lot of protesters died from "accidents" over the past few years.

                is this peddling conspiracy theories in a sensitive topic?
                 /

Feds and cops have been levying assassinations and bombings on us for ages. Don't think it's a tactic that suddenly became unfashionable. Do what you can to protect the people on the ground.

Apparently not