Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread

[ShutUp]

Good luck keeping faces out of videos when you had however many people there recording. Or since this is all amidst a pandemic, wear a mask.

[BisMarckie]

Like 100 officers outside the murderer's house and not a single one of them bringing him in.

Tells you all you need to know.

Tells me nobody knows how the legal system operates. And I am not even American.

[BisMarckie]

That being said, if these riots had an aim of declaring the Soviet Republic of Minnesota, I would be all for it.

[HaughtyFrank]

Good to hear, if true. There are still a shit ton of horribly racist and bigoted first responders and the institutions as a whole aren't much better than law enforcement, but as a whole, there seem to be some decent human beings here compared to the latter.

What is this guys beef with first responders?

[Propagandhim]

What's taking so long to arrest Derek Chauvin, though?

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

Good to hear, if true. There are still a shit ton of horribly racist and bigoted first responders and the institutions as a whole aren't much better than law enforcement, but as a whole, there seem to be some decent human beings here compared to the latter.

What is this guys beef with first responders?

Terrorist playbook is you hit a target, then wait for the first responders to take them out for maximum disruption

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

That thread now seem to be over the cognitive dissonance that rioting is simultaneously both the only thing that really works, but also exactly what the people they want ousted wanted to happen and they infiltrated to cause it.

Thing is though, if that Twitter video they're using is correct, that dudes not an undercover cop.
They don't dress for a sustained fight against riot police. Because that's not what they do - they start shit then bail, and they don't get shit because they wear a flag identifying them as undercover and police are informed prior to things starting what to look out for, like a blue baseball cap or red tape on their back packs or whatever.

That dudes dressed like antifa, eras favorite most woke allies and definitely not terrorists. All black, facial covering, gas mask, umbrella.

[Propagandhim]

What's taking so long to arrest Derek Chauvin, though?

they don't want to charge him

I was thinking maybe it wasn't safe enough to even transport him in the midst of that chaos, but with the morning, you'd think they'd have taken him in by now.

[Don Rumata]

All these people going „no biggie, it‘s all insured“ never had to deal with insurance companies, especially if it involves a large payout.

I dunno, but i saw in the movies that you throw your car off a cliff and wait for the Benjamins.

[ShutUp]

That thread now seem to be over the cognitive dissonance that rioting is simultaneously both the only thing that really works, but also exactly what the people they want ousted wanted to happen and they infiltrated to cause it.

Thing is though, if that Twitter video they're using is correct, that dudes not an undercover cop.
They don't dress for a sustained fight against riot police. Because that's not what they do - they start shit then bail, and they don't get shit because they wear a flag identifying them as undercover and police are informed prior to things starting what to look out for, like a blue baseball cap or red tape on their back packs or whatever.

That dudes dressed like antifa, eras favorite most woke allies and definitely not terrorists. All black, facial covering, gas mask, umbrella.

Yeah that guy was dressed like someone who has done this kind of shit before. Could it possibly be a cop disguised? Sure. But then why are so many still cheering on the rioting and looting?

[Don Rumata]

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Basically, Watch it for the Plot equivalent.

[Propagandhim]

I'll bet you everything in James' paypal account that he gets charged.

[ShutUp]

Is a city allowed to just ... not have a police force? Like could we in theory just not have one and create a new system that has "security," "mental health response," etc.?

And what exactly does he think a security system would be armed with? Are guns outlawed in this future where cops are gone?

[HaughtyFrank]

Is a city allowed to just ... not have a police force? Like could we in theory just not have one and create a new system that has "security," "mental health response," etc.?

And what exactly does he think a security system would be armed with? Are guns outlawed in this future where cops are gone?

I've yet to see anyone come up with an alternative that's not just a police force under a different name

[ShutUp]

”how to move forward" lol it's pretty clear what needs to be done.

Emotionally immature video game message board poster doesn’t understand that the mayor can’t just say they need to string up whitey.

[ShutUp]

Is a city allowed to just ... not have a police force? Like could we in theory just not have one and create a new system that has "security," "mental health response," etc.?

And what exactly does he think a security system would be armed with? Are guns outlawed in this future where cops are gone?

I've yet to see anyone come up with an alternative that's not just a police force under a different name

Yup. Always comes back to some type of authority that’s in charge of the population.

[thisismyusername]

If I can't play Ninja Gaiden Black and Dead or Alive 2: Ultimate online, I can't care.

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

Is a city allowed to just ... not have a police force? Like could we in theory just not have one and create a new system that has "security," "mental health response," etc.?

And what exactly does he think a security system would be armed with? Are guns outlawed in this future where cops are gone?

I've yet to see anyone come up with an alternative that's not just a police force under a different name

What if they only allow people who voted for Obama in to the Security Force?

all authority should be derived from people with blue ticks on twitter

[Propagandhim]

https://twitter.com/Amir0x/status/833565244777717760

[ShutUp]

Man NeoGAF was briefly an Xbot playground after the Restera exodus but it's full insane Sony Pony land now..


Tons of comments like this:

This is just shameful.

In response to:

https://twitter.com/Xbox/status/1265991319832293376

Which is just Microsoft saying their BC works without downclocking while it's assumed the majority of PS5 BC will need to downclock to PS4 levels.  You can tell hardly any of them actually clicked the link or thought more than 2 seconds about the tweet as they are all assuming it's about the variable clock rates.

You'd think MS insulted their mothers or something lol

When Sony consoles are the weaker of the 2, the Snoys go nutso.

But that SSD though.

[Joe Molotov]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/aerial-image-provides-one-of-the-best-looks-into-super-nintendo-world-that-weve-seen-since-it-was-announced-and-it-looks-glorious.214386/

oh no

NO SPOILERS!!!!!

[SmokyDave]

https://twitter.com/Amir0x/status/833565244777717760

Children are a real riot?!

I dunno man, I would keep an eye on that random twitter user.

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/Amir0x/status/833565244777717760

Children are a real riot?!

I dunno man, I would keep an eye on that random twitter user.

Still stuck in some prison in Pennsylvania, IIRC.

[ToxicAdam]

I wish the rioters would burn down the Mall of America. Everyone wins in that scenario.

[HaughtyFrank]

"Justice for Floyd but we don’t support looting " lol ok

 On RE this is apparently a paradox

[Boredfrom]

"Justice for Floyd but we don’t support looting " lol ok

 On RE this is apparently a paradox

I dunno what they expected to happen? That white guys with guns don’t use it as a excuse to parade their guns?

[ShutUp]

I honestly think some of them don’t grasp that people own these smaller stores that have been destroyed. Target and shit is fine but small local places could be fucked now.

[porkbun]

Good luck keeping faces out of videos when you had however many people there recording. Or since this is all amidst a pandemic, wear a mask.

Also a lot of the looters are posting the videos on their personal social media and then use hashtags that are easily searchable.

 

[HaughtyFrank]

A small local restaurant owned by minorities was robbed of $15,000. That was keeping them afloat. I live in the city too. I don't want it to burn down. Do you live here?

Source? They can get that back through donations easily.

 

[ShutUp]

A small local restaurant owned by minorities was robbed of $15,000. That was keeping them afloat. I live in the city too. I don't want it to burn down. Do you live here?

And it gets this response

Source? They can get that back through donations easily.

Yes, people in the midst of this pandemic, very possibly unemployed, will just donate whatever money they do have to help. Era is so clueless

[ShutUp]

And they keep fucking going on about things damaged or stolen are all covered so it’s not a big deal. They have ZERO idea how these insurance companies operate.

Talk about privilege constantly but then turn around and not give a shit about people’s livelihoods.

[Joe Molotov]

I hope the guy that doesn't want his town to burn down gets banned for downplaying racism and/or drive-by trolling in a sensitive thread..

[ShutUp]

Commedieu speaking for the “community” when they aren’t even from the area it’s happening, meanwhile two people actually from the area on the same page are upset with what’s happening but being scolded for daring to speak up.

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/black-woman-lets-white-woman-in-wheelchair-through-white-woman-tries-to-stab-her-with-knife-then-gets-fire-extinguisher-in-the-face.214677/

Hey mods, you might wanna lock this one up before too much ass is shown in cheering on attacking a disabled woman trying to stop looters from stealing shit.

Just saying.

[ShutUp]

Source? They can get that back through donations easily.

lol

It’s only 15k man. Surely people already hurting for money can all chip in, no sweat. 

[porkbun]

A small local restaurant owned by minorities was robbed of $15,000. That was keeping them afloat. I live in the city too. I don't want it to burn down. Do you live here?

And it gets this response

Source? They can get that back through donations easily.

Yes, people in the midst of this pandemic, very possibly unemployed, will just donate whatever money they do have to help. Era is so clueless

Especially along east Lake Street, which has long been one of the poorer areas of the city -- the bits of gentrification that have been popping up the last few years haven't really done anything to change that (it should be pointed out that a lot of the new developments are specifically for low-cost housing).  A lot of the non-chain businesses (many that are run by minorities/immigrants) along there were already on life support due to COVID quarantine.  And even if they didn't get smashed up, they will lose even more business because white people from the more affluent areas are going to be staying away from Lake Street for quite a while (Lake Street was getting a reputation as a "foodie" area of the city, due to the rise in authentic ethnic restaurants).  To just say "oh insurance will cover that, or they can do a GoFundMe" shows how incredibly stupid and self-centered they are.

[cosmicblizzard]

Requirements for positive change to happen via violence:

1. A more powerful foreign entity (or multiple entities) getting involved.
2. The people that actually want change having more physical power (so weapons basically) than the state.

So yeah, neither really apply because America.  The mechanisms that allowed the Civil Rights Movement to succeed were visibility more than anything, a lot of which can be attributed to the nonviolent resistance and likely would not have had it been all anarchism all the time.  A lot of the violent resistance was straight up useless.  Hell, people just kind of shrugged their shoulders after the Watts riots and blamed communism despite the 34 deaths and $40 million in property damage, which in the long term amounted to increased racial tensions even decades later and a nifty thing to reference in music.

We also live in a VERY different era compared to the 60s, which is to say nothing of the fact we're in the middle of the biggest story of most of a lifetime since WWII, which is going to take away any visibility from more social causes assuming things don't escalate to an unreasonable degree.

That Era doesn't understand this is just sad.

[ShutUp]

If you want to complain about rioting and loss of property, it's best left to another thread. Just look at the staff post.

The entire thread is about what started as a protest and turned into rioting and looting. But let’s attempt to silence discussion yet again.

[ShutUp]

Nothing important in history ever happened because the oppressed filed a nicely worded complaint to the authorities.

When you feel you have nothing to lose, when the state has long since abandoned you, this is the result.

And the rioting in Minneapolis barely got talk on news talk this morning. A collective shrug of the shoulders. So how did that work out for you, privileged fuck?

[stufte]

Riot ends, nothing changes except for a tiny increase in material goods redistributed to the "protesters" . Rinse, repeat.

Maybe target government buildings next time you dumb fucks.

[Don Rumata]

Man NeoGAF was briefly an Xbot playground after the Restera exodus but it's full insane Sony Pony land now..


Tons of comments like this:

This is just shameful.

In response to:

https://twitter.com/Xbox/status/1265991319832293376

Which is just Microsoft saying their BC works without downclocking while it's assumed the majority of PS5 BC will need to downclock to PS4 levels.  You can tell hardly any of them actually clicked the link or thought more than 2 seconds about the tweet as they are all assuming it's about the variable clock rates.

You'd think MS insulted their mothers or something lol

Can Phil Spencer be impeached for this Tweet? He should drop out of the race, tbh.

[porkbun]

so what you're saying is they should have burned down the banks.

Ah well, next riot.

They did put a bomb on an ATM on a bank on Lake Street - one which specifically gives low interest loans to minority owned small businesses.

[BIONIC]

Riot ends, nothing changes except for a tiny increase in material goods redistributed to the "protesters" . Rinse, repeat.

Maybe target government buildings next time you dumb fucks.

That's not true, when a riot ends the police get a huge budget increase for new armored vehicles, more riot equipment, and retaliatory crackdowns. The businesses that are destroyed don't recover for years, other businesses leave, jobs are lost, and school or pension budgets are cut to repair damage.

Okay?

All of that can be covered by donations 

[stufte]

and INSURANCE!

[ShutUp]

The insurance companies will either pay for it all or they are all racists who condone police brutality. Era has spoken.

[Propagandhim]

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

I like that thing Slavoj Zizek says about how rioting is best understood through capitalist ideology - the market and the market relationship is what's sacred, so when you want to reject the order and lash out, you defile the marketplace.

...did anyone else see his shitty movie, or

yes, and I was living in london at the time (the example he was using).
It really was just pikey chav cunts on the rob though (and I know some of them who were at it that weekend personally).
It's an interesting intelletual exercise to frame it and recontextualise it as being the only means of expression of a stifled proletariat, but... I mean, only if you consider most low level crime to be that, which I don't. Less Robin Hood, and more robbing hoods, and mostly white dudes despite the catalyst nominally being an unlawful shooting of a black man.

[Uncle]

they should have burned down the fucking police stations and the murderer's house, not random small businesses and Target

yeah honestly that's what I can't wrap my head around

don't shit where you eat!

to use the worst fucking analogy, the kind of people looting their own neighborhood are the kind of people who throw controllers when they lose, and now you've just got a hole in the wall to fix and a broken controller, and you still lost

how about this, you destroy the local police station and then you drive south to Rochester and destroy that town, then drive home again to your comfy un-burned homes and local businesses
 

[eleuin]

they should have burned down the fucking police stations and the murderer's house, not random small businesses and Target

Easy way to get killed

[BisMarckie]

Where can I enlist for the Bore militia to protect YUM! Brands restaurants?

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

So.. has anyone come up with a solution other than "lets burn the city down, wait till another 100 or so innocent black people die by police and then do it again"?

the system is what it is due to multiple variables; expecting real change to a system without changing multiple variables simultaneously isn't going to work, which is why its slow and it requires more people wanting to fix things than not working together to get it done.

[Uncle]

 

you would've been fucking livid if the police HAD been trying to de-escalate the situation

not one person on era would've said "good on these cops for getting the rioting under control and dispersing the protesters"

[Superstar]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/black-woman-lets-white-woman-in-wheelchair-through-white-woman-tries-to-stab-her-with-knife-then-gets-fire-extinguisher-in-the-face.214677/

I feel like I'm completely missing something in the op videos where every reply is celebrating this

[stufte]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/black-woman-lets-white-woman-in-wheelchair-through-white-woman-tries-to-stab-her-with-knife-then-gets-fire-extinguisher-in-the-face.214677/

I feel like I'm completely missing something in the op videos where every reply is celebrating this

I was waiting for this to surface on REE. I'm pretty sure that the knife didn't come out until they started stealing from her wheelchair and fucking her shit up for blocking them.

[stufte]

Here's more "context" which happens to be missing from that thread.

Notice how NOT stabby and violent she is, just puttting herself in the way of the looters:

http://www.twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1265881810245808128

Then she is assaulted:

http://www.twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1265883038409322497

Still no video or pictures of her stabbing anyone.

 

spoiler (click to show/hide)

I know, it's Andy Gnome. But that's the only place I could find the other videos.

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[cosmicblizzard]

So.. has anyone come up with a solution other than "lets burn the city down, wait till another 100 or so innocent black people die by police and then do it again"?

In the context of America, incremental progress is pretty much the only thing that can work.  Every other solution that people put forth requires the non-affected to suddenly get affected, but to be affected in a way that they can't weaponize back onto the groups the system fucks over.  You basically need an "enemy of my enemy" situation, which Trump has actually worked as a good example of, but not to the scale necessary for radical change because he also split the country in half ideologically.

Of course that's sort of an accelerationist mindset as well, which is going to fuck over marginalized groups even more than incremental progress.  This is why those who truly want a "burn it down" solution should be voting Trump in November.  Of course they'd be making a huge gamble on whether it works or not because it's just as likely they just end up with a generations-long regression as far as rights go rather than the Mad Max world they want.

[thisismyusername]

So.. has anyone come up with a solution other than "lets burn the city down, wait till another 100 or so innocent black people die by police and then do it again"?

In the context of America, incremental progress is pretty much the only thing that can work.  Every other solution that people put forth requires the non-affected to suddenly get affected, but to be affected in a way that they can't weaponize back onto the groups the system fucks over.  You basically need an "enemy of my enemy" situation, which Trump has actually worked as a good example of, but not to the scale necessary for radical change because he also split the country in half ideologically.

...How did that work out for Flint which rioted (IIRC) along with other cities that have rioted?

[Joe Molotov]

So.. has anyone come up with a solution other than "lets burn the city down, wait till another 100 or so innocent black people die by police and then do it again"?

In the context of America, incremental progress is pretty much the only thing that can work.  Every other solution that people put forth requires the non-affected to suddenly get affected, but to be affected in a way that they can't weaponize back onto the groups the system fucks over.  You basically need an "enemy of my enemy" situation, which Trump has actually worked as a good example of, but not to the scale necessary for radical change because he also split the country in half ideologically.

...How did that work out for Flint which rioted (IIRC) along with other cities that have rioted?

Didn't NYC invent hiphop after the '77 blackout riots?

[thisismyusername]

Yeah, but that was forty years ago, son. At this point, that might as well be the dinosaurs.

[stufte]

Yah she was fucking stupid to try and save the Target or whatever, but the idea that she ran (wheeled, lol) up on them stabbing black folks is bullshit. She got in their way, they fucked her up, she produced a knife and they sprayed her down.