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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #49500 on: September 12, 2021, 11:25:33 AM »
Look, its really very simple;
  • when you're talking about how YTs have erased all black contributions to history, Europe was full of black people doing important jobs, they were kings and queens of egypt and carthage, and held one of the largets and longstanding empires in the Ottomans.
  • when you're talking about how YTs built white supremacy by making black people eternal victims, black people didn't exist until Columbus invented slavery in 1492

just make sure you don't forget which argument you;re making, because It's A Bad Look having the Ottomans as one of the biggest colonisers in history, or the Egyptians being brutal slave owners

Taking ethnic pride in brutal moorish colonization of Southern Europe is always a fun pitstop, too.
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #49501 on: September 12, 2021, 11:27:35 AM »
 :gaben :gaben :gaben :gaben

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #49502 on: September 12, 2021, 11:52:00 AM »
Can someone whos not banned at era give me a temperature check on where this poll is landing?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/is-flirting-with-a-19-year-old-at-28-creepy.485089/

because without a mod telling people what Officially Allowed Opinion is, you've already got posters telling other posters their marriage is effectively based on rape

You were groomed by your husband. I mean, I'm happy that you're living a happy life and that you're an anomaly because you're not emotionally traumatised but let's not try to sugarcoat a predatory life story
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« Last Edit: September 12, 2021, 11:58:31 AM by HaughtyFrank »

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #49503 on: September 12, 2021, 12:14:11 PM »
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I think the only thing to be cautious of is that it seems like psychiatrists and Pediatricians are saying the adulthood really begins at 25 in the modern era, based on how 18-25 year olds actually behave and that’s it’s essentially an extended period of adolescence. I don’t think it’s “creepy” necessarily but you’d be at very different life stages.

 :girlaff

If the op wasn’t a lesbian they’d be screeching pedo. Instead they’re pulling out shite like this so they can insinuate it without getting banned

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #49504 on: September 12, 2021, 12:20:02 PM »
Can someone whos not banned at era give me a temperature check on where this poll is landing?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/is-flirting-with-a-19-year-old-at-28-creepy.485089/

because without a mod telling people what Officially Allowed Opinion is, you've already got posters telling other posters their marriage is effectively based on rape

You were groomed by your husband. I mean, I'm happy that you're living a happy life and that you're an anomaly because you're not emotionally traumatised but let's not try to sugarcoat a predatory life story
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OP, pursue a relationship that could make you happy.

or

Get the approval of the 43% of Era who might think you're a creep, without knowing anything about you or your life. A forum which has frequent threads with people trying to figure out the proper way to wipe their ass.

 :dead :gladbron :preach :rejoice

Bonus Question: Who gets the ban, the poster accusing another poster’s husband of sexually grooming them, or the user properly encapsulating the level of self reliance most of that board has?

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #49505 on: September 12, 2021, 12:29:17 PM »
he may have groomed her, but in return she brided him
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #49506 on: September 12, 2021, 12:46:18 PM »
Can someone whos not banned at era give me a temperature check on where this poll is landing?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/is-flirting-with-a-19-year-old-at-28-creepy.485089/

because without a mod telling people what Officially Allowed Opinion is, you've already got posters telling other posters their marriage is effectively based on rape

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #49507 on: September 12, 2021, 12:50:04 PM »
You were groomed by your husband. I mean, I'm happy that you're living a happy life and that you're an anomaly because you're not emotionally traumatised but let's not try to sugarcoat a predatory life story
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"Wow, era really had someone willing to admit to a decade-ish age gap?"

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It's funny how so many posts all assume either of these people want to go out to the bar and being together is a bad idea because one can legally go to the bar and another cannot.

I met my now husband when I was 14 turning 15 and he was 18 turning 19. We started dating 7 days after I turned 15 and have now been together 23 years, married 15. He has been in exactly 2 bars his entire life, once when he was 18 right before we started dating and once with me for a concert a few year ago which was attached to a bar. Neither of us drink or care to go out and party.

People thought I was too young to be in a serious relationship and that he was too old for me. I'm glad neither of us cared what other people thought because if we did we would have missed out on a great marriage and life together.

Like I can understand being a little wary of senior-freshman hookups in high school, but it's classic Era to escalate that to RELATIONSHIP TAINTED BY GROOMING FOREVER. Never seen a group of people so eager to trivialize everything by treating minor and major transgressions the exact same.

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #49508 on: September 12, 2021, 12:56:58 PM »
They have a very paternalistic view of women where they always need to be protected from themselves by the wise men of Era. It's weird and creepy how little Era thinks women can be trusted to think for themselves.
« Last Edit: September 12, 2021, 01:05:36 PM by Hap Shaughnessy »
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #49509 on: September 12, 2021, 01:12:58 PM »
I don't know what I expected, but I had an hour so I skipped through maybe two or three dozen Project Eve reaction videos on Youtube. The only channel that complained about the character design was Digital Foundry. Female streamers and Youtubers in particular reacted universally positive, with statements like "she's cute", "love the character design", "she looks badass" or "I'd love to cosplay this". Bonus comment: "I wish I could walk in heels as well as the girl fights in shoes like that". One really has to wonder if Western character designers actually understand their audience.

The reactions of normal people who can handle mature content without childishly overthinking it.
This is gator propaganda.

The fact is that so-called "gaming" streamers/YouTubers are immediately suspect and can't be considered to be operating in good faith because if they were honest they would upset the chuds who make up their audience. A proper cross-section of women would only include those able to speak their truth about the harm caused them by the problematic nature of this game and Sony's unethical immoral decision to promote it.

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #49510 on: September 12, 2021, 01:15:35 PM »
Can someone whos not banned at era give me a temperature check on where this poll is landing?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/is-flirting-with-a-19-year-old-at-28-creepy.485089/

because without a mod telling people what Officially Allowed Opinion is, you've already got posters telling other posters their marriage is effectively based on rape

You were groomed by your husband. I mean, I'm happy that you're living a happy life and that you're an anomaly because you're not emotionally traumatised but let's not try to sugarcoat a predatory life story
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User Banned (Duration Pending): Armchair diagnosing, antagonizing another member, and concern trolling with regards to child grooming across a series of posts; previous severe ban for concern trolling around sexism

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #49511 on: September 12, 2021, 01:25:36 PM »
Can someone whos not banned at era give me a temperature check on where this poll is landing?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/is-flirting-with-a-19-year-old-at-28-creepy.485089/

because without a mod telling people what Officially Allowed Opinion is, you've already got posters telling other posters their marriage is effectively based on rape

You were groomed by your husband. I mean, I'm happy that you're living a happy life and that you're an anomaly because you're not emotionally traumatised but let's not try to sugarcoat a predatory life story
:dead

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User Banned (Duration Pending): Armchair diagnosing, antagonizing another member, and concern trolling with regards to child grooming across a series of posts; previous severe ban for concern trolling around sexism

Wow! With the mod's outright condescending attitude toward women's choices at times, I didn't expect them to get got the dummy there.

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #49512 on: September 12, 2021, 01:26:10 PM »
I mean a 14, year old and an 18 year old is kinda  :jared
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #49513 on: September 12, 2021, 01:58:16 PM »
Is that the longest ban message yet?

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #49514 on: September 12, 2021, 02:00:40 PM »
I asked the girl in the local shop what she thought of the male gaze, She said, oh yeah, I like nice eyes too, and a tight ass. Which proves we're all the same

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #49515 on: September 12, 2021, 02:06:43 PM »
King Kingo's previous severe ban for "concern trolling around sexism" is:
User Banned (3 months): concern trolling around sexism, prior ban for dismissing concerns of colorism over a series of posts

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It kinda seems like the implication of this is that the poster you're replying to shouldn't say bad things about the design because other women that aren't being addressed by the post like the designs? It's kind of a leap from this to accusations of dismissing the opinions of other women and a real bad look to call what was posted that.
That's not what I said at all? I said her points were valid but that not all women share her opinion which is an objective truth as I quoted a woman who liked her design. That wasn't to invalidate her opinion but to reinforce that not everybody shares said opinion.

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What the fuck does that have to do with anything I said? How about you stop hiding behind what some women happen to like and actually address the points of criricism. I like 2B as a character but her design is still sexist objectification.

And stop tone policing, thanks.

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So no, I am not "tone policing", I am just trying to have a civil conversation. Like I said earlier, your points are valid but they're not universally shared with every woman.

Prior ban "dismissing concerns of colorism over a series of posts" is not logged.

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #49516 on: September 12, 2021, 02:14:03 PM »
Here it is:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/was-terra-in-kingdom-hearts-birth-by-sleep-supposed-to-be-absolute-idiot.352633/page-3#post-55127596

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User Banned (1 month): Dismissing concerns of colourism over a series of posts
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I literally said I was a black woman back on page one so again, maybe read people's posts.

And nah, you've been downplaying the issue multiple times in this thread. We wouldn't even be discussing this if it wasn't for you trying to excuse the issues within the game. I'm not the only one who has noticed it nor am I the only calling you out on it. Every time someone counters you, you move goal posts or ignore it. People called out that you bringing up the Mad Doctor doesn't address the colorism issue they were actually talking about and you ignore that. I called how Disney still currently has a history of racism and colorism after you brought them up and you ignore that. How is any of this supposed to be read other than you're just trying to shut down others' criticism when you're not actually engaging with what people are saying and just post excuses like other 'japanese media does it' as if that somehow excuses KH? Also lol at 'if' I think colorism is a larger issues. Jfc.

Edit: You know what, I'm done. Good luck to anyone who wants to continue this but I think I will make that thread about SE and colorism.
Why are you responding to me as if I have any creative decision-making power to change how Square Enix approaches people of colour in their video games? I'm not downplaying colourism, I'm just giving my opinions. If colourism is a genuine issue that you want to change then there are channels to express those concerns.
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #49517 on: September 12, 2021, 02:32:05 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/do-you-agree-were-living-in-a-golden-age-of-character-diversity.485254/page-6#post-73214038

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Wow, of course not. You say diversity, yet all of the examples you've used show humans! Too human centric for my tastes.
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #49518 on: September 12, 2021, 02:39:08 PM »
Ree would shit their pants over my story. I started dating my wife when she was 15 and I was 19. I'm sure I'd get accused of grooming nowadays.

The actual fact of the story is that she asked me out. She's tall, 5 ft 11 in, same height as me, and was very mature for her age. On track for an Ivy League college and smart. We dated through her high School, through her undergrad, through law School and then got married. We've been together for 40 years and have three kids. World's worst groomer.

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #49519 on: September 12, 2021, 02:54:05 PM »
risible is a hotty  :whoo
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #49520 on: September 12, 2021, 03:23:35 PM »
Not really sure you can ban people for criticising a game (incorrectly) as being woke. Where do you draw the line? These are discussion points that are debunked but aren’t really bannable offences. You can’t control every little thing in forum discussions.
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Saying something is "woke" because it has black people is racist.
Sure, if your reference to it being woke is because it has minorities as characters then it’s couched in racism. I’m not sure Valve is going to moderate that though. People are free to downvote the game for that particular reason. I just don’t think Valve is going to — or is even interested in — moderate such criticism.
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #49521 on: September 12, 2021, 03:49:43 PM »
“Account in junior phase” always gets me. How dare they be a newer member!

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #49522 on: September 12, 2021, 03:57:06 PM »
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For one thing, Valve didn’t publish those titles, they just stocked them, in the same way that Amazon stocks Ayn Rand and anti-vax material.
That is electron scope level of spliting of hairs. "They didn't make them, they just offer them to the public AND profit off of them".

So let's follow this train of thought; Era doesn't post calls for violent insurrection, they just offer them to the public AND profit off of them", right?
Because era moderators are always talking about how they can't see every post and rely on posts being reported, but that's obviously NO EXCUSE for being held completely liable for anything that does slip through, yes?

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #49523 on: September 12, 2021, 03:57:15 PM »
“Account in junior phase” always gets me. How dare they be a newer member!

also AFAIK they don't actually have any guideline, mandate, forum title, or definition of what it means to be in the "junior phase"
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #49524 on: September 12, 2021, 03:58:02 PM »
“Account in junior phase” always gets me. How dare they be a newer member!

their "all members are equal, none of that 'shut the fuck up junior' nonsense here!" early days pledge went the same way as their moderator transparency

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #49525 on: September 12, 2021, 04:04:31 PM »
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That was just an example of what I could see misogynists arguing about. As for the rest of your other post, that was exactly my point: it doesn't happen often in other types of entertainment not because they're not big (on the contrary, they're just as big as games), but because misogynists don't engage in discussions. In gaming, they think they have to participate. Every. Single. Time.
Case in point, the "Why women criticise sexualised character designs" thread here on Era. Multiple threads littered with people going in to defend or "just ask questions" about sexualised character designs.

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Your example of why gamers are the worst is the fucking judging womens clothing circlejerk thread that only exists as is because the worlds most prudish satanist personally endorses it?  :brain

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« Reply #49526 on: September 12, 2021, 04:06:55 PM »
“Account in junior phase” always gets me. How dare they be a newer member!
Just another one of those things they grabbed wholesale from GAF without even knowing the reason it was there.
I bit like the "port begging" thing.

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« Reply #49527 on: September 12, 2021, 04:10:37 PM »
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I think the only thing to be cautious of is that it seems like psychiatrists and Pediatricians are saying the adulthood really begins at 25 in the modern era, based on how 18-25 year olds actually behave and that’s it’s essentially an extended period of adolescence. I don’t think it’s “creepy” necessarily but you’d be at very different life stages.

 :girlaff

If the op wasn’t a lesbian they’d be screeching pedo. Instead they’re pulling out shite like this so they can insinuate it without getting banned
Blue is the warmest color, is the evidence i need to approve of this hook-up.  :rash

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #49528 on: September 12, 2021, 04:15:41 PM »
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I think the only thing to be cautious of is that it seems like psychiatrists and Pediatricians are saying the adulthood really begins at 25 in the modern era, based on how 18-25 year olds actually behave and that’s it’s essentially an extended period of adolescence. I don’t think it’s “creepy” necessarily but you’d be at very different life stages.

 :girlaff

If the op wasn’t a lesbian they’d be screeching pedo. Instead they’re pulling out shite like this so they can insinuate it without getting banned
Blue is the warmest color, is the evidence i need to approve of this hook-up.  :rash

i think you missed the part where she said she was "ace" and that there'd be no sexy time for them. Not sure the younger grill is aware of this yet.  :lol


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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #49529 on: September 12, 2021, 04:24:40 PM »
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That was just an example of what I could see misogynists arguing about. As for the rest of your other post, that was exactly my point: it doesn't happen often in other types of entertainment not because they're not big (on the contrary, they're just as big as games), but because misogynists don't engage in discussions. In gaming, they think they have to participate. Every. Single. Time.
Case in point, the "Why women criticise sexualised character designs" thread here on Era. Multiple threads littered with people going in to defend or "just ask questions" about sexualised character designs.

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Your example of why gamers are the worst is the fucking judging womens clothing circlejerk thread that only exists as is because the worlds most prudish satanist personally endorses it?  :brain



I'm still  :doge :lol at the idea the reason they keep pruning posters with a dissenting opinion from that thread is because GAMURZ are MISOGINNISTS and nobody would dare post otherwise if you made a thread on a film site about how wonder woman DRESSES LIKE A WHORE, LOOK AT THOSE FEMORAL ARTERIES and not because making that kind of post would have you BTFO as a loony and go scurrying back to the era whoreswhoreswhores thread talking about how shitty the entire rest of the internet is

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #49530 on: September 12, 2021, 04:32:11 PM »
Is Phoenix Wright called the ace attorney cause he never fucks the hotties he hangs out with?

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« Reply #49533 on: September 12, 2021, 04:41:42 PM »
"What white is saying some racist shit today? ON MY OFF DAY!!!!"

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« Reply #49534 on: September 12, 2021, 05:21:52 PM »
I'm working and don't have time to see if you gents posted this already. The whole thread is distinguished.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/steam-has-a-right-wing-extremism-racism-problem-on-their-discussion-forums-that-needs-to-be-addressed.485398/post-73209169

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I moderated the old place for years pre implosion. What happened was not that the community became caring, friendly and supportive, the frothing assholes just stopped using slurs basically.

Yeah, like the current B-Chud in chief.

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #49536 on: September 12, 2021, 05:48:40 PM »
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Okay, and if you don't consider Greeks white (like apparently half the thread)?  Then black folks are erasing, marginalizing and stealing work from a minority ethnicity that never get their own representation in games?

 PICK ONE MOTHAFUCKA   

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« Reply #49537 on: September 12, 2021, 05:49:58 PM »
potato is black  :rejoice
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #49538 on: September 12, 2021, 05:51:57 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/i-left-insomniac-games-because-of-how-they-treat-women-ex-employee-speaks-out.233752/page-25#post-73236487
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I am more surprised how the staff of ERA hasn't made a statement yet on this. Because I feel it is being buried again.
Pretty sure some of 'em are actually hyped for their games still, so...

ERA mods are now tagged as being pro-worker abuse  :wag

Wonder how long the mods can ignore this. Sure, the voices wanting the forum to ban entire publishers from it is small, but they are persistent and loud and are mostly part of the prominent, protected crew on the site. Then again, if there's one golden rule that even usually protected members can't break is criticizing the mods. Their paper-thin skin just can't take it. By the way, all of this could have been avoided if they'd just ignored Kyuuji regarding CP 2077 :lol That is when this entire idea of banning entire publishers started.

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #49539 on: September 12, 2021, 05:57:48 PM »
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I think the only thing to be cautious of is that it seems like psychiatrists and Pediatricians are saying the adulthood really begins at 25 in the modern era, based on how 18-25 year olds actually behave and that’s it’s essentially an extended period of adolescence. I don’t think it’s “creepy” necessarily but you’d be at very different life stages.

 :girlaff

If the op wasn’t a lesbian they’d be screeching pedo. Instead they’re pulling out shite like this so they can insinuate it without getting banned
Blue is the warmest color, is the evidence i need to approve of this hook-up.  :rash
I don't think I've ever watched a film as many times as that one without ever watching the whole thing.
 :delicious
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #49540 on: September 12, 2021, 06:00:07 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/i-left-insomniac-games-because-of-how-they-treat-women-ex-employee-speaks-out.233752/page-25#post-73236487
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Like another poster said, is kind of fucked up how despite this still being a problem there is a thread in the front page whose only point is circlejerking about how great Insomniac is
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Yeah couldn't help but roll my eyes.

Lots of devs work on multiple games at a time.

This doesn't warrant ignoring sexual harassment.
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It does worry me that circlejerk and hype threads are still allowed for a lot of these studios who have had their skeletons in the closet exposed to the world, yet suddenly mod policy is to just let it slide because of the slippery slope fallicy.

I mean, official policy is that Cyberpunk conversation has to be limited to the one thread, to avoid distressing anyone from the communities that CDPR negatively impacted. A policy I agree with.

Yet Activision-Blizzard is guilty of not just crunch and transphobia, it's guilty of tax fraud via legal loop hole, victimisation of women and male staff priding themselves in the fact they commited it (What with things like the Bill Cosby Room.) And their apology involved using an infamous union buster of a lawfirm to "investivage" working conditions.

But when demands were being made that Activision games be treated in kind, suddenly we have to be concerned where it will all end. Despite no conversation about a game being impacted, just that it would all have to go in one thread to avoid potentially distressing celebratory conversation for a problematic team hogging up the forum.

And I bring this up because, as much as I love their output (I got a ps5 last month just for the new Ratchet and Clank.) Insomniac haven't really been put on any kind of blast for their bad behaviours.
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Yeah, it's hard. I wish the admin team would at least have a conversation about this instead of just making that decision, while some of them don't participate in threads like this one while participating in hype threads. It's disheartening, to say the least.
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I’m right there with you. Even trying to discuss the games (without actually buying them) felt wrong to me……at least unless I shine a very bright light on the current issues with the company. They really should be a discussion on limiting known problematic companies like ActiBlizz, Ubisoft, Insomniac, & more to a single thread (for each of them) like what happened with Cyberpunk. In those threads, they can clearly highlight the problems with each company & why they’ve been isolated to their respective threads. But that’s just my two cents on the matter.
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Not happy with how the resetera team is handling this either. Pretty pathetic tbh
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Yeah, the fact that it seems like the moderation team hasn't said or done anything makes it seem like they are just going to ignore it and sweep it under the rug.

Nintex

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #49541 on: September 12, 2021, 06:05:10 PM »


PLAY IT TACTICAL BOIS
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Boredfrom

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #49542 on: September 12, 2021, 06:06:34 PM »
If is not blowing out, is not blowing out, the mods can do little is not a real shitshow there. The Apple woman thread was also ignored by forum (and by the mainstream media it seems):

https://www.resetera.com/threads/apple-places-female-engineering-program-manager-on-administrative-leave-after-tweeting-about-sexism-harassment-and-assault-in-the-office-up-fired.473163/page-7#post-73079167


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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #49543 on: September 12, 2021, 06:07:29 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/i-left-insomniac-games-because-of-how-they-treat-women-ex-employee-speaks-out.233752/page-25#post-73236487
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I am more surprised how the staff of ERA hasn't made a statement yet on this. Because I feel it is being buried again.
Pretty sure some of 'em are actually hyped for their games still, so...

ERA mods are now tagged as being pro-worker abuse  :wag

Wonder how long the mods can ignore this. Sure, the voices wanting the forum to ban entire publishers from it is small, but they are persistent and loud and are mostly part of the prominent, protected crew on the site. Then again, if there's one golden rule that even usually protected members can't break is criticizing the mods. Their paper-thin skin just can't take it. By the way, all of this could have been avoided if they'd just ignored Kyuuji regarding CP 2077 :lol That is when this entire idea of banning entire publishers started.

B-dubs has made a statement:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-isnt-activision-ubisoft-discussion-limited-to-about-their-work-cultures.465195/#post-70571883

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EDIT: I literally just woke up and I apologize for being short.



Literally every publisher and studio in the industry is guilty of misogyny and sexism. There isn't a single one that hasn't had someone come forward against them. Ubisoft, Riot, Insomniac, Microsoft, Naughty Dog, the list goes on and on and on. Big publishers and independent developers both. This is systemic across the entire industry. Banning just one publisher/studio and not all of the others sends a message that we only care about this when it gets particularly bad. It's wholly unacceptable regardless of who does it.

Banning just Acti/Blizz sends the message that it's just them that's the problem. They aren't the only ones. It's everyone. Every game we enjoy is tainted by this, there is no getting around that or minimizing it. This is why we pointed people towards charities to help women because this is a systemic problem. You cannot pretend it's just Acti/Blizz because it isn't. You don't get to write this off as just a single studio or publisher.
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #49544 on: September 12, 2021, 06:12:15 PM »
CDPR after literally making the most inclusive game in history  :dunno
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #49545 on: September 12, 2021, 06:12:44 PM »
Dismissing concerns of sexism by saying "they all do it so who cares?   Just go out and buy games from devs that rape women because they all do it.  I love rape."    I don't feel safe on this forum anymore.

Lonewulfeus

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #49546 on: September 12, 2021, 06:20:31 PM »
I had a Greek classmate and he went to Greece to visit family and said they’d never seen deodorant before and tried to eat his :crowdlaff

Also his sister tried to trade blowjobs for Pokémon cards.  I wisely kept my Pokémon cards :smug

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #49547 on: September 12, 2021, 06:38:13 PM »
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B-dubs has made a statement:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-isnt-activision-ubisoft-discussion-limited-to-about-their-work-cultures.465195/#post-70571883

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EDIT: I literally just woke up and I apologize for being short.



Literally every publisher and studio in the industry is guilty of misogyny and sexism. There isn't a single one that hasn't had someone come forward against them. Ubisoft, Riot, Insomniac, Microsoft, Naughty Dog, the list goes on and on and on. Big publishers and independent developers both. This is systemic across the entire industry. Banning just one publisher/studio and not all of the others sends a message that we only care about this when it gets particularly bad. It's wholly unacceptable regardless of who does it.

Banning just Acti/Blizz sends the message that it's just them that's the problem. They aren't the only ones. It's everyone. Every game we enjoy is tainted by this, there is no getting around that or minimizing it. This is why we pointed people towards charities to help women because this is a systemic problem. You cannot pretend it's just Acti/Blizz because it isn't. You don't get to write this off as just a single studio or publisher.

I like how his last sentence makes it seem like people complaining about Moderation are the real assholes

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #49548 on: September 12, 2021, 06:42:25 PM »
Even for Era moderation standards that's a garbage take.
I wonder if B-Dubs is going to throw in the towel, he seems completely burned out.

If that's what you post when you've literally just woke up, yikes oof
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #49549 on: September 12, 2021, 06:47:49 PM »
Any normal user making this post would get banned so hard

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #49550 on: September 12, 2021, 06:53:21 PM »
I had a Greek classmate and he went to Greece to visit family and said they’d never seen deodorant before and tried to eat his :crowdlaff

Also his sister tried to trade blowjobs for Pokémon cards.  I wisely kept my Pokémon cards :smug
Kind of like how when Greeks migrated to places like Australia and the UK and the US and those people had never seen garlic or oregano or pasta and they only ate salted meat with boiled cabbage and boiled potatoes seasoned with salt.

Also, what sort of weirdo uses stick deodorant? :oreilly
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #49551 on: September 12, 2021, 06:55:40 PM »
Don't listen to him Potato.  Us southern euros taught them cavebeasts how to bathe.

 :smug :smug

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #49552 on: September 12, 2021, 07:05:36 PM »
Don’t shoot the messenger I’m just telling you what he told us, maybe his cousins were the Greek equivalent of American rednecks.

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #49553 on: September 12, 2021, 07:05:42 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/i-left-insomniac-games-because-of-how-they-treat-women-ex-employee-speaks-out.233752/post-73239418
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Out of interest what do you want the team here to do?
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No idea, but I think an active thread warning on top of each thread (instead of on the bottom) and a stickied thread about abuses from IG and other companies would be the bare minimum. It's kinda crazy that only this thread is where I learned about this and not from actual media outlets. Whole issue feels ignored.
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Bare minimum, they should put a staff notation in every Insomniac thread pointing out the shit going on at the company (ideally at the top).

What should be done is limit all Insomniac talk to either 1 compressive thread or 2-3 threads for each game similar to what was done for Cyberpunk. But the same could be said of ActiBlizz & Ubisoft, which sadly didn’t happen.
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why is nobody contacting them or @ them?

is it because people are afraid of getting banned?
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It should be called out but to utter the word “Insomniac” under the same breath as Activision Blizzard is an exaggeration. Unless more people come out and employees start having walk outs at the company it’s not even comparable. If Era mods didn’t do something about Activision games’ threads I don’t see how expecting that for Insomniac is realistic.
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Unfortunately, the only reason we know as much as we do about the shit going on at Activision Blizzard is because of the lawsuit. Likewise, the bare minimum suggestion I made is something that’s already being applied to Activision Blizzard threads, that being putting a notation of what’s going on at Insomniac.

This point, I just want justice for the victims & for more people to be aware of what’s going on.
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Did anyone create a moderation ticket yet? If not, I'm considering it to at least ask what they have considered doing and what are their plans regarding Insomniac.
You're supposed to spam all over the place, reveal PMs, expose other users Twitter accounts, talk about how you're literally being murdered, talk about how everyone is leaving in droves due to it, rage if anyone in the cohort gets banned for any reason, etc. not do this "by the book" shit. :rage

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #49554 on: September 12, 2021, 07:06:00 PM »
God PLEASE give Insomniac/Spider-Man the Cyberpunk treatment. People there ultimately probably didnt care too much that it happened with Cyberpunk because it was a multi platform game but a Sony owned studio and their mega popular superhero games?

It would be absolute chaos  :rejoice

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #49555 on: September 12, 2021, 07:19:36 PM »
We've said that for every freakout now, but it won't happen again.
The Cyberpunk thing was special, because of the "transphobia" element, and the guy that wanted to do the OT "playing the mods".

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #49556 on: September 12, 2021, 07:24:28 PM »
Damn it man, let me believe  :brazilcry

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #49557 on: September 12, 2021, 07:25:45 PM »
Don't listen to him Potato.  Us southern euros taught them cavebeasts how to bathe.

 :smug :smug
Them savages don't even eat olives and they use vegetable oil.
 :crowdlaff
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #49558 on: September 12, 2021, 07:27:14 PM »
That story that the one ex-insomniac guy shared about him screaming at his colleagues that they shouldn't dare to put breasts on a female character honestly made me question how severe the situation at the studio actually is. The media also seems a bit hesitant to pick it up, but maybe Schreier just wants that "I knew for years" cred

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #49559 on: September 12, 2021, 07:27:19 PM »
potato is black  :rejoice
Only one part of my body

 :mynicca
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