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Re: Serious stonks strategy talk
« Reply #1800 on: March 10, 2023, 06:59:03 PM »
https://twitter.com/RyanMaue/status/1634319326202265604

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Re: Serious stonks strategy talk
« Reply #1801 on: March 11, 2023, 08:28:20 PM »
Bailing out the banks is going to do wonders for inflation
https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1634716099626381312
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Re: Serious stonks strategy talk
« Reply #1802 on: March 11, 2023, 11:43:05 PM »
Whats funny is that its basically the opposite of 2008

2008: We're going to go balls deep in the riskiest assets known to man
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2023: We're going to go balls deep in the safest assets known the man
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How safe can an asset be when the generators of them say they're deliberately going to devalue them for seemingly forever after having already done this for over a decade? This is like the third time in four years the Fed/ECB has seen a market they deliberately fucked with crash. :lol

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I wouldn't be surprised that if like the other ones this is the result of the openly foreseeable consequences of something they did. :kermit
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Re: Serious stonks strategy talk
« Reply #1803 on: March 12, 2023, 09:38:05 AM »
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« Reply #1804 on: March 13, 2023, 10:39:50 AM »
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I wouldn't be surprised that if like the other ones this is the result of the openly foreseeable consequences of something they did. :kermit
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Re: Serious stonks strategy talk
« Reply #1805 on: March 13, 2023, 12:15:37 PM »
Why did he list a bunch of things that weren't the result of a failure of regulation?

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« Reply #1807 on: March 13, 2023, 01:09:10 PM »
https://twitter.com/chimeracoder/status/1635122685729722369

Well, yes, insider trading has been prosecuted for losing trades before, but this isn't insider trading just stupidity. :lol

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« Reply #1808 on: March 13, 2023, 06:26:20 PM »
iANAL?

Is that an Apple product I missed?

Also Silicon Valley bank and 'lifehack' bank runs are peak LinkedIn hustle culture.
All we need is to respond with some flames emoji's and meaningless comments like: "@hustlegrindvalley Great stuff!" , "@topgredpilled always FOMO BRO UP 400 MRR!!!", "@mrbusinessgeek Keep building Alex!", "@thot69 Me or a PS5"
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« Reply #1809 on: March 13, 2023, 08:03:39 PM »
iANAL?

Is that an Apple product I missed?
I Am Not A Lawyer

In case for some reason you think some engineer at Stripe has a law degree related to his hundred tweet thread on banking operation, financial regulation, etc. :lol

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Re: Serious stonks strategy talk
« Reply #1810 on: March 14, 2023, 04:12:20 PM »
So I was investing my yearly pension into a safe ETF/Mutual Fund and looked at my pension account and it's worth -17% less than the cost basis of what I put in/aka if I had just left it all sitting in cash.

Most of this is because the "safe" Mutal Fund I put it into a decade ago and which is 50% of my portfolio has been total shit and is -17% down over the past five years.

Decided to ditch that and changed over to basic boring vanguard VOO Index ETF to put into from now on instead. I only invest like 20k/year into pension because I feel like my chances of living until I get pension money is 50/50, so it's not a huge deal. Even if I retire at 65 (ha ha ha) I'd probably only have enough in my pension to live on for a couple of years max unless I start investing more in.

My dad's almost in his 80s and still works, when you run your own business and don't have a government retirement fund or anything, basically seems like you just keep working until you die. That's what I'm assuming I will do. But it's not like I've got anything better to do during my M-Fs...

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« Reply #1811 on: March 14, 2023, 04:16:23 PM »
There's some that do a split mutual/index fund, though you would have still probably been down on the mutual side. Jerry "Even Steven" Seinfeld probably has a split one that always delivers him exactly 0%. You might want to consider getting out of an ETF form altogether for just a regular one or a mix since ETF's can be more volatile. (I know this now because I read that book.)

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« Reply #1812 on: March 14, 2023, 04:20:40 PM »
Also, just an aside, but I am terrible at investing. Definitely doing the worst out of all my family members, though I also have the lowest cost of living.

Everyone else owned good property prior to the 2020 housing 150% price jump. Plus my other family members have made better investments in things, even just better index funds than the one I was recommending by my financial advisor.

I have zero money in the stock market outside my pension.

My savings basically just sit in cash and get a little bit of interest from online banks. Doesn't even keep up with inflation.

After I buy a house and don't need all my savings liquid I'll at least stick them in a CD or something to get a little better %, but overall I'm just not making any money on money because I am terrible at investing.

Also when I do buy a house now at the absolute top of the market, a lot of my savings will be locked in a house which who knows if it will appreciate much beyond where were at for the forseeable future.

I just suck at this, but luckily I make enough salary that as long as I keep working until I die and business stays constant I'll be fine.

Maybe I'll meet and marry someone someday who is better with their investments than me. So far everyone I date has like $5 in their bank account.

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« Reply #1813 on: March 15, 2023, 04:07:13 AM »
vet this with your advisor but why not go for i-series bonds or t-bills? they're yielding something like 9% and 5% respectively, which is pretty good for a virtually risk-free asset right now compared with equities

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« Reply #1814 on: March 15, 2023, 06:33:58 AM »
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« Reply #1816 on: March 15, 2023, 03:17:39 PM »
Just curious:  Bebpo, did you switch to VOO based on what your financial advisor told you?  Did they give you a reason why?  Also, he or she must have advised you not to hold cash in a savings account, too.  No?


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« Reply #1817 on: March 15, 2023, 03:29:19 PM »



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« Reply #1818 on: March 15, 2023, 04:23:46 PM »
Just curious:  Bebpo, did you switch to VOO based on what your financial advisor told you?  Did they give you a reason why?  Also, he or she must have advised you not to hold cash in a savings account, too.  No?

No, I switched to VOO after reading some financial websites talking about the ten best and most stable index ETFs/MFs in 2023. It's also rated like #2 on my financial institutes ranking whereas the other MF I'm in is rated something like #122.

I don't have a financial advisor currently. I had one initially who recommended the MF which was good back then. I keep cash in a savings account because I've needed it liquid for the last bunch of years as I've been looking for a house since it's my down payment money.

vet this with your advisor but why not go for i-series bonds or t-bills? they're yielding something like 9% and 5% respectively, which is pretty good for a virtually risk-free asset right now compared with equities

I don't know what these are. I'm tbh not very sophisticated in stock market stuff. I have a very small amount of bonds and an account manager who manages them for me and calls me up to buy stuff when he sees good deals.

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« Reply #1819 on: March 15, 2023, 05:23:16 PM »
Got it.  A financial advisor might help you figure out if ETFs are better for you, tax-wise, than mutual funds based on what your finances look like.  Mutual funds are actively managed and ETFs are more passive, so the former tend to have higher fees and expense ratios associated with them, but better downside risk protection (I know you lost money these past 2 years, but it could have been worse given the circumstances).  ETFs tend to be more tax efficient and lower expense ratios because they don't offer as many shareholder services.  Alot of this shit is tailored to your individual condition, which is why you'd go to an advisor.  I can't really tell you what to do with your money because everything carries risk, bu I think your choice of the VOO is fine.   

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I don't know what these are. I'm tbh not very sophisticated in stock market stuff. I have a very small amount of bonds and an account manager who manages them for me and calls me up to buy stuff when he sees good deals.

Yeah, so just the very basic shit: A bond is just an instrument that represents a loan made by an investor (you) to a borrower (with i-bonds, it's the gov't).  You're lending money to the gov't, and receive money when it matures after a period of time, at a fixed interest rate.    I-Bonds use a more variable rate:  they are issued specifically as protection against the inflation rate, determined to pay out based on the interest rate which serves as a protection against it - which is why the Fed raises rates to encourage people to buy-in, reducing the money supply to lower inflation.  They're considered safe investments because they're low risk - at the end of the maturity period, they simply pay out.  I-bonds are a type of bond that earns interest based on a semi-annual inflation rate based on changes in the consumer-price index - so it combines two different rates: a fixed rate and an inflation rate.  They're meant to give investors a return and plus protection from inflation.  i-bonds are considered very low-risk, largely because they can never decrease in value like treasury bonds, corporate bonds or stocks. The trade-off is that i-bonds also won’t pay out interest as income, but rather, the interest is added to the principal( the amount of money you invest in the bond).  Twice a year, all the interest the bond earned in the previous 6 months is added to the principal value of the bond. That gives the bond the i-bond a new value (old value + interest earned).  The i-bond rate is very high right now, so it's a safe investment but you must hold them for at least a year, and, if you decide to redeem them before five years have passed, you forfeit the previous three months’ worth of interest..  If you're sitting on money you're not using, and you don't want to risk anything, it's a good bet.  Again, a financial advisor would help you figure out whats best for you.
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Re: Serious stonks strategy talk
« Reply #1820 on: March 16, 2023, 03:28:41 PM »
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« Reply #1821 on: March 16, 2023, 03:38:30 PM »
Look, at a certain point you just have to start doing all the crimes in the time you have left.

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« Reply #1822 on: March 16, 2023, 03:58:25 PM »
The altruism is very effective

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« Reply #1823 on: March 16, 2023, 04:21:02 PM »
He tried to get their money back by investing it in a great new opportunity that couldn't possibly fail.
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« Reply #1824 on: March 16, 2023, 04:25:22 PM »
The altruism is very effective
Are you suggesting that the most effective place to put money is not with a guy who suddenly found $2.2 billion to use? Every dollar he left in the customer accounts was a dollar wasted rather than being maximized effectively.

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« Reply #1826 on: March 17, 2023, 08:00:01 PM »
https://twitter.com/joeprkns/status/1635933638725451779

https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/11t7t21/250b_of_indias_exports_are_gpt4_tokens_let_this/

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I tried to make a block stacking animation in Three JS with Chat GPT-4 today.
The first attempt the blocks were floating and flashing but not falling. The second attempt the blocks fell but didn't stack because the blocks never landed at the bottom of the screen.
The third attempt the blocks fell upwards but still didn't stack. The co-pilot thing works great but having AI's built your code from scratch is still tricky. I did give me some good pointers and suggestions on how to improve my own version of the same code though.

Also it was very realistic in terms of interacting with a developer: "thanks for your suggestion, I've rewritten the code to make sure the blocks stack"

"Your code is broken because the first block never stops at the edge of the screen"

"Thank you, let me try again. I've improved my code so now the first blocks stop and it stacks"

"Your blocks are now moving up"

"This is not possible, have you tried changing the variable "falling.block" to "true" ?"

At some point it gave up and said: "I'm a language model, I can't write code but here's some pointers for you to write it yourself"

In any case, only 186 banks left to bail out  :lol
https://twitter.com/financialjuice/status/1636817207064768512
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Re: Serious stonks strategy talk
« Reply #1828 on: March 19, 2023, 02:48:49 PM »
 :bernie
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« Reply #1829 on: March 19, 2023, 03:51:20 PM »
https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1637527867104829444

Reports that 2 more European banks on the brink.
Probably Deutsche Bank
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« Reply #1830 on: March 19, 2023, 03:57:30 PM »
Its a disgrace the banks kind of have us by the balls and know they will be bailed out, which makes it free money to them they're playing with.
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« Reply #1831 on: March 19, 2023, 07:23:07 PM »
https://twitter.com/macro_dose/status/1637571045296046081

Seeing more and more stonk folks argue that the FED/ECB should backstop ALL the banks  :lol

https://twitter.com/TKL_Adam/status/1637521918667419649
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« Reply #1832 on: March 19, 2023, 08:44:57 PM »
Normies must not give a shit about this, cos you'd think there would be an epic global bank run, looking at past scares like toilet roll early in the planny, the masssive 2 week run on petrol in the UK based on 2 whole stations nationwide being out of petrol on a single day etc.
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« Reply #1833 on: March 19, 2023, 08:48:39 PM »
They just make it too complicated with 'technical' terms.

https://twitter.com/ecb/status/1637559761976664064

If you say: "The bank is on fire" people panic if you say "We're implementing a policy to provide additional liquid to the out of control heat source" everthing sounds under control.

https://twitter.com/TheInsiderPaper/status/1637606795723120646
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« Reply #1834 on: March 20, 2023, 04:00:19 AM »
Wonder if anymore banks will blow up this week


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« Reply #1836 on: March 20, 2023, 02:44:20 PM »
Normies must not give a shit about this, cos you'd think there would be an epic global bank run, looking at past scares like toilet roll early in the planny, the masssive 2 week run on petrol in the UK based on 2 whole stations nationwide being out of petrol on a single day etc.
Bank failures happen all the time, thousands of banks failed in a couple years twice in the 1980's for example, I think it was close to 500 during 2007-09. Normies in Western nations are covered by the government, why would they withdraw their money so they can put it in another bank?

The people needing non-standard coverage in bailouts are the ones actually doing bank runs coordinated online and drawing down the capital holdings of the failed banks.

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« Reply #1837 on: March 20, 2023, 02:46:59 PM »
re: first rep
Both banks are headquartered in San Francisco and drew clients from the region’s tech and venture capital spaces.  Not looking good

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« Reply #1839 on: March 21, 2023, 06:25:31 PM »
They have to "study ways" to do something they've done before? Just ignore the FDIC and the law, have the Fed setup a special vehicle, dump a bunch of "cash" in it, wait for bank to collapse, give "cash" to some other bank to buy the shell if they use some of it to backstop the accounts.

This is almost literally what they did a decade ago. :lol

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« Reply #1841 on: April 06, 2023, 03:47:40 PM »
Managed to cash out my remaining crypto from Binance but it was quite a struggle.
Because of the sanctions Binance has been restricted in Europe, so I had to sell my DOGE, convert it to BTC, send the BTC to coinbase and use coinbase to transfer the money to my PayPal account.

Again thanks to Elon Musk for bailing me out :rejoice
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« Reply #1846 on: July 20, 2023, 11:23:29 AM »
Tesla stock this year

+162.61 (150.43%)
year to date

Someone needs to take care of the Musk problem
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« Reply #1847 on: July 20, 2023, 06:15:43 PM »
I keep hearing about peeps jumping on Nvidia stocks.

They don't know about all the unsold inventory or they're just really bullish on the AI thing.
I get it, Nvidia is good on AI and Switch 2 will probably be a big hit also. But the car stuff is not going anywhere and all those unsold Geforces... I dunno.  :doge
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« Reply #1849 on: September 21, 2023, 01:35:46 AM »
buy worthless sell high, benj!
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