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Re: Star Trek Thread part 2: The Kurtzman Strikes Back
« Reply #600 on: July 07, 2022, 05:18:52 PM »
The villain isnt even non binary what a non interview
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« Reply #601 on: July 07, 2022, 05:20:05 PM »
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It's the chick who hijacked the enterprise how she is non-binary maybe you are as confused as I am.  :lol
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https://www.cinemablend.com/interviews/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-jesse-james-keitel-discusses-why-playing-angel-was-refreshing

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I know there were concerns that having a villain who is played by a trans woman who is clearly a queer person would be sending a wrong message. I understand that queer people have had a really long and complicated history with TV and film, and they’ve been very mistreated in the media. Now we see [that] in legislation and in real life. That being said, I think it’s high time we let queer people be villains, you know?

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« Reply #602 on: July 07, 2022, 06:57:05 PM »
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Fnished up the Season of SNW and I got to say that I never would have imagined that I would be typing these words but Shart Trek has surpassed The Orville at least tentatively it might change when The Orville finishes up but here we are. :mindblown
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This season of the Orville has been pretty underwhelming so far, my nitpicks:

1. The humor being gone I regret ever saying it shouldn't be there in the first place.

2. The lighting being darker it isn't as egregious as in Shart Trek but it still annoys me, this is probably because they use different cameras.

2a. To expand on the lighting this is more of a art direction thing the third series has a way more generic inside the ship it went all brushed metal with the light blue lighting instead of the comfy 80's office design language that was very TNG era ripoffy so maybe this was changed because of a copyright issue.

3. The CG looks worse, what the fuck was up with that episode with the Talla fighting the alien CG creatures talk about amateur hour.

4. I don't like the shuttle redesign or their fighter jet thing design wise this could be down to copyright shenanigan's for all i know.

5. Charly sucks.

6. New OP sucks, nah the soundtrack in general compared to previous seasons.

Things I do like:

1. Bortus's make up was improved, the last episode it looked odd the one about time travel.

2. Repercussions from previous seasons have been addressed or made worse.

3 I like the homage to Galaxy Quest since they have a beryllium sphere on their engineering deck.  :lol

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Can only hope this is a direction shows take from now on not just trek but all shows and or media and feck off with injecting current year politics into shit. :rejoice
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SNW EP1 was absolute current year politics gobshite, but fucked off with that shit after that episode.
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The Orville was probably hampered by the Coof which caused 4 eps to be canned and maybe that's why it's a mess but only time will tell when the season actually ends.
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MMaRsu

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Re: Star Trek Thread part 2: The Kurtzman Strikes Back
« Reply #603 on: July 08, 2022, 09:12:50 AM »
I havent enjoyed the orville this season at all.. i dunno why because I was hyped for it but its just not that fun to watch.
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« Reply #604 on: July 09, 2022, 07:51:06 AM »
This week's Orville was pretty good, I liked seeing

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the return of Laura, as I still think the first episode with that character is probably the strongest in the whole series.
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The ending was really abrupt and resolved things too neatly, without really dealing with the consequences of what they'd done, but the show has been pretty good about coming back to unresolved plot points like this (Topa, Teleya) so I expect we'll see more of this storyline if we miraculously get a 4th season.

The stuff with Isaac and Charly was fun too, the show's humor is kinda hit-and-miss for me but I thought this was right in the sweet spot of where it works.

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« Reply #605 on: July 11, 2022, 08:35:57 PM »
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« Reply #606 on: July 12, 2022, 10:46:31 AM »
Linking to purple site because there was some discussion of Patrick Stewart being very much at the front seat of steering the TNG movies and Picard (which makes a lot of sense that he has so much leverage) :

https://www.resetera.com/threads/redlettermedia-ot-very-cruel.804/page-244#post-84198724

https://www.resetera.com/threads/redlettermedia-ot-very-cruel.804/page-245#post-84809068

Which you don't have to read in the most uncharitable way but certainly Stewart himself coopted a tone change.

Certainly failure are as much a team effort than success though it's always fun pointing fingers at the usual suspects.
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Re: Star Trek Thread part 2: The Kurtzman Strikes Back
« Reply #607 on: July 13, 2022, 02:46:53 AM »
The TNG movies took the tone from an ensemble cast and made things nearly entirely about Picard or Data.

ST: Picard let’s you know from the title where the focus will be, sadly.

“Absolute fucking hubris!”

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Re: Star Trek Thread part 2: The Kurtzman Strikes Back
« Reply #608 on: July 13, 2022, 09:08:28 AM »
Doesn't explain why Discovery was fucking awful though, unless we think clem fandango has real hollywood juice

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« Reply #609 on: July 14, 2022, 01:26:22 PM »
I gotta say I was apprehensive of Strange New Worlds, but on Episode 10 now and I have to say its really good, I would say its a perfect mix of classic Trek and some stuff.
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« Reply #610 on: July 14, 2022, 03:25:24 PM »
Stewart had leverage with the films because he was becoming a big enough star that he could just give up the role and still find himself stuff like X-Men. He's since admitted that he probably pushed too hard for Picard to get the "best stuff" in the movies, in particular Insurrection should have been more balanced. But I imagine that they had to give him nearly everything he wanted to get him back now. Even Jeri Ryan probably wouldn't have as much pull for Seven.

Data became the B-plot in Nemesis because Spiner was aging out of the role and wanted to be killed off which is leverage no one else on the cast had. It was less natural than fitting his role into First Contact was. Also because the director knew nothing about Trek he thought all the stuff about Data was super fascinating even though it was mostly just retreading ground TNG had done countless times before. They probably should have let Frakes direct again instead of blaming him for Insurrection. It also would have been far smarter if they had pushed all that to irrelevance in the movie until the end where Data realizes he can sacrifice himself and come back in B4 for a potential sequel rather than it being some stupid masterplot of Shinzon's that ultimately goes nowhere anyway.
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« Reply #612 on: July 18, 2022, 07:22:25 AM »
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« Reply #613 on: July 18, 2022, 09:52:45 AM »
I cant watch anymore Picard. Not even funny joking memes
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« Reply #614 on: July 18, 2022, 10:35:18 PM »
Yeah, I'm sad about it, but I noped out partway through s2e2. Just… no.


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Re: Star Trek Thread part 2: The Kurtzman Strikes Back
« Reply #616 on: July 25, 2022, 06:59:13 PM »
Patrick Stewart Money
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