E3 hopes and dreams - THE DARKNESS IS SO THICK WE CAN TASTE IT

[Bebpo]

And I mean SMT3's entire map was a fucking bright desert wasteland. Like RE8 being RE4 again, SMTV looks like it's taking SMT3 as its main inspiration with a bit of SMT4's anime characters.

[demi]

I watched some Chaos demo and honestly it seemed to remind me of FF7 Remake, with the UI and the general flow of combat

[Human Snorenado]

This game looks like it has the potential to be dope af too, and yes demi it will be a day 1 gamepass title

[remy]

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And I mean SMT3's entire map was a fucking bright desert wasteland. Like RE8 being RE4 again, SMTV looks like it's taking SMT3 as its main inspiration with a bit of SMT4's anime characters.

The game apparently makes reference to a war between angels and demons 18 years ago aka 2003 aka nocturne release date.

I bet that + the timing of nocturne remake mean this game is set after SMT3 as a direct sequel. the similar overworld makes sense if so.

[Pissy F Benny]

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2021-06-16-microsoft-says-it-will-use-cloud-streaming-to-bring-2022-exclusives-to-xbox-one

[Svejk]

I dunno that Avatar game looks pretty dookie because, you know, Avatar, but by and large you're right- there's a shit ton of promising games coming to like, all the systems and shit.

However, this is a video games forum on the internet, so THERE WILL BE BITCHING

i thought frontiers of pandora looked quite pretty, and seems like it's going to play like a sci-fi fantasy far cry. could be a fun hollywood gaming romp. i know so many people employed in wellington atm working on this franchise lol.

digging the laputa vibe of the botw2 trailer

I was totally giddy about Avatar... Not that I'm gonna play it (at least, wasn't planning on it), but my daughter is a huge Avatar fan!  So I was super excited with her. 

[tiesto]

The SMTV UI is kind of ugly, too many colors and clashing fonts reminiscent of a mobile gatcha. I much preferred the clean, simplified look of Nocturne and DDS.

[Joe Molotov]

SMT V looks great, y'all just leave this one to the real gamers.

[Human Snorenado]

The "serious games journalism" apology tour for the lack of a switch pro announcement has begun.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2021/06/15/so-whats-the-deal-with-the-nintendo-switch-pro/?sh=53bf80f43e79

https://www.cnet.com/news/nintendos-switch-pro-no-show-at-e3-re-set-your-2021-expectations/

https://kotaku.com/why-was-nintendos-switch-pro-missing-from-e3-1846986576

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

https://kotaku.com/why-was-nintendos-switch-pro-missing-from-e3-1846986576

I can’t blame anyone for expecting Nintendo to reveal a New Nintendo Switch or Nintendo Switch Pro or Super Nintendo Switch or what have you alongside E3 2021. It seemed far more likely than Metroid Dread being revived, at least. Not only is E3 the biggest video game industry event of the year, but the months leading up to the show were full of credible reporting about an imminent Switch-related announcement. And I don’t mean from some random jerk on Reddit or 4chan.

I'd love to see some of those "credible reporters" insider track records actually compared to some of the better known reddit leakers (or whatever that 4chan hashing system uses to retain accounts)

[Raist]

A day later, Bloomberg’s Jason Schreier (who didn’t write the original story) made a speculative Tweet about the possibility of a reveal that night. His tweet, which he tells Kotaku was misinterpreted as definite proof, has since been deleted but a screenshot has been saved here.

[tiesto]

SMT V looks great, y'all just leave this one to the real gamers.

You think I'm gonna let a buttugly UI stop me from turn-based SMT goodness?

[Nintex]

The "serious games journalism" apology tour for the lack of a switch pro announcement has begun.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2021/06/15/so-whats-the-deal-with-the-nintendo-switch-pro/?sh=53bf80f43e79

https://www.cnet.com/news/nintendos-switch-pro-no-show-at-e3-re-set-your-2021-expectations/

https://kotaku.com/why-was-nintendos-switch-pro-missing-from-e3-1846986576

With Nintendo you never know. They could announce it the day after E3 or they canned it because they weren't happy with the product.
If it was supposed to be at E3 there should've been more signs. With the state Zelda was in this definitely wasn't one of those "oops we pulled it at the last minute"

[Pissy F Benny]

you have to imagine its down to the chip shortage, whats the point in cock teasing people with one if you can only manufacture 10k units (worldwide) for launch

[Don Rumata]

I was thinking during the announcement of Kazuya in Smash, how lame it is, to have fighting game characters as guests in a fighting game like Smash.

What was fun about Smash was seeing characters that didn't usually fight (or fight like that) in a fighting context, like Mario, Ness, Kirby etc.
To have characters who already fighting game characters in, is just boring.

I get that it's a pedigree thing, but i guess i'm also one of those thinking the game should be less FGC style shit, and more party game.

[Human Snorenado]

I feel like there's enough legit smoke for there to be a fire (the big tell is the screen manufacturer mentioning it on an earnings call or whatever)

The delay is probably a combo of the chip shortage, Zelda delay due to pandemic/whatever, and The Nintendo Difference: Please Understand™

On the one hand I have some level of sympathy for the "games journalists" who were just reporting what are most likely legit leaks from reputable sources, on the other hand who doesn't love a good dragging of the self important wankers that make up that esteemed club (also I am constitutionally incapable of NOT trolling nintendo/ninthings when the opportunity arises, so)

[Nintex]

They weren't just wrong about the Switch Pro, they were wrong on basically everything.
From Metroid Prime Trilogy to a Zelda Anniversary collection.

Nintendo pulled a fast one and dug up Metroid Dread, which they mostly stopped talking about last year.
Everything Nintendo showed wasn't on their lists.

[bork]

https://kotaku.com/why-was-nintendos-switch-pro-missing-from-e3-1846986576

I can’t blame anyone for expecting Nintendo to reveal a New Nintendo Switch or Nintendo Switch Pro or Super Nintendo Switch or what have you alongside E3 2021. It seemed far more likely than Metroid Dread being revived, at least. Not only is E3 the biggest video game industry event of the year, but the months leading up to the show were full of credible reporting about an imminent Switch-related announcement. And I don’t mean from some random jerk on Reddit or 4chan.

I'd love to see some of those "credible reporters" insider track records actually compared to some of the better known reddit leakers (or whatever that 4chan hashing system uses to retain accounts)

"Browsing resetera dot com and making stories out of rumor posts."

[bork]

 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/jason-schreier-suggests-that-the-switch-pro-could-be-announced-tonight.432362/page-3#post-65882963

I don't know for sure it's tonight. If I was reporting something that I knew to be true I wouldn't say "possibly." All I know for a fact is that it's happening and getting announced soon.

 

[Human Snorenado]

They weren't just wrong about the Switch Pro, they were wrong on basically everything.
From Metroid Prime Trilogy to a Zelda Anniversary collection.

Nintendo pulled a fast one and dug up Metroid Dread, which they mostly stopped talking about last year.
Everything Nintendo showed wasn't on their lists.

Here's the thing- I could see how vague leaks led to those rumors.

Source at Nintendo, knowing about Metroid Dread: "Prime 4 is still in development, no news about that but there's something metroid related"

Idiot games journalist: ZOMG A HD PRIME TRILOGY, MAKES PERFECT SENSE

Source at Nintendo, knowing about BS game and watch: "There will be a Zelda anniversary announcement/collection"

Idiot games journalist: ZOMG ZELDA ANNIVERSARY COLLECTION JUST LIKE MARIO CONFIRMED

The problem is that they don't just report the vague rumors as they get them, it's almost assuredly that they try to extrapolate and figure out what Nintendo is going to do

[tiesto]

you have to imagine its down to the chip shortage, whats the point in cock teasing people with one if you can only manufacture 10k units (worldwide) for launch

But at the same time, Nintendo is legendary for using perceived "chip shortages" to spur demand...

[Don Rumata]

It's tonight.
Switch Pro announcement.
Book it.

[Pissy F Benny]

did your uncle tell you?

[Bebpo]

you have to imagine its down to the chip shortage, whats the point in cock teasing people with one if you can only manufacture 10k units (worldwide) for launch

But at the same time, Nintendo is legendary for using perceived "chip shortages" to spur demand...

Nintendo is also legendary for just being a real dick and doing whatever the fuck they want tho


The trick to Nintendo is to never expect anything and just enjoy paying full price for the things they do announce if you like them.

/goes and buys Origami King for $41.99...

[Tuckers Law]

I’m not gonna lie: I preordered that Game and Watch along with my copy of Dread.  I like the Mario one well enough, and like the clock functionality of it.

also I am constitutionally incapable of NOT trolling nintendo/ninthings when the opportunity arises, so

The funny thing is even if this wasn’t the case, we are plenty good at trolling ourselves as well, especially when trying to oracle whatever meaning from the weird specks of Nintendo info that escape into the wild from time to time.

[Svejk]

I now see where 120fps would be required to play a game remotely smooth.... if at all.   wtf

[Himu]

For me it's not desert setting (as SMT3 had that) but tone. All the colors. The brightness. It looks pop to be SMT, which has origins in horror. Nothing about that trailer or video speaks anything of the horror elements of SMT's past.

I watched the PV and it confirmed my feelings. It's trying extremely hard to look cool, it's almost embarrassing. Sliding down deserts, looking all anime. I like SMT because, for the most part, it's subdued. This is extremely extra. I won't be purchasing it.

Certainly, there could be horror in it, but the way they're marketing it says otherwise. Better to trust what they're showing rather than putting all hope that it's traditional Megaten horror. I'll replay past games instead.

[Nintex]

What is it with Ubisoft games just dissapearing.
I just realized they were working on
Prince of Persia Sands of Time Remake

Where did it go 

[Nintex]

For me it's not desert setting (as SMT3 had that) but tone. All the colors. The brightness. It looks pop to be SMT, which has origins in horror. Nothing about that trailer or video speaks anything of the horror elements of SMT's past.

I watched the PV and it confirmed my feelings. It's trying extremely hard to look cool, it's almost embarrassing. Sliding down deserts, looking all anime. I like SMT because, for the most part, it's subdued. This is extremely extra. I won't be purchasing it.

I wouldn't read much into it. It's a Japanese game on Switch, it'll obviously have some weebness in it and an anime look (as the system doesn't do realism well) but that doesn't necessarily mean the entire game is.

[Don Rumata]

Everyone called it shit (rightfully so) and they sent it back to the drawing board, AFAIK.

[Nintex]

Everyone called it shit (rightfully so) and they sent it back to the drawing board, AFAIK.

My bro said they put an entirely different team on it after making such a hoopla that it was head up by the folks in Mumbai 

[Himu]

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And I mean SMT3's entire map was a fucking bright desert wasteland. Like RE8 being RE4 again, SMTV looks like it's taking SMT3 as its main inspiration with a bit of SMT4's anime characters.

It's really interesting how gamers are incapable of targeting someone's main points. Only one person brought up the desert setting, and it wasn't me. I attacked its lack of emphasis on horror immediately. Uncle brought up the setting. I'm all about tone. But like all gamers, you have some gotcha point instead of countering my issue.

[Uncle]

I wasn't trying to represent cindi's viewpoint, just my own and I was being half facetious anyway

I never played 3 so I didn't know there was a desert before but I do prefer a grungy twisted metal apocalypse to a bright one

 

[remy]

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And I mean SMT3's entire map was a fucking bright desert wasteland. Like RE8 being RE4 again, SMTV looks like it's taking SMT3 as its main inspiration with a bit of SMT4's anime characters.

It's really interesting how gamers are incapable of targeting someone's main points. Only one person brought up the desert setting, and it wasn't me. I attacked its lack of emphasis on horror immediately. Uncle brought up the setting. I'm all about tone. But like all gamers, you have some gotcha point instead of countering my issue.

The Japanese trailer pretty clearly has some horror/creepy scenes and the game takes place during a demonic apocolypse/biblical war.

Complaining it's not like Strange Journey meaning it's not real SMT seems weird considering if anything that Strange Journey is the outlier.

It being set in antartica instead of tokyo and having the obvious western sci fi/The Thing influence makes it kinda feel like it's own thing. I think that's probably why they called it SJ instead of SMT 4. Of the mainline SMT games I've played 3, 4 and SJ I would say SJ is the most overtly horror one.

It's also weird to get up in arms because the main character has a anime kamen rider/super sentai vibe (nothing new considering past demon designs in SMT) when SMT has always had anime stuff in it.

Also: people talking online about what is and isn't real SMT is exhausting to me. I came late. I haven't played SMT 1 or 2, and I don't really care what is and isn't real SMT. SMT branded games and spinoffs have such a broad variety of settings, themes and vibes that if I see demons, apocalyptic setting and press turn i'm down.

[Rahxephon91]

If gamers are incapable of arguing then I think they are also incapable of accepting media changes.

SMT 1 and 2 came out in the 90s. An era of extreme multi media computer focus. An era where something like Lain and it’s depiction of computers seemed plausible.  It’s look and tone reflect that era. SMT3 doesn’t reflect that look and tone either. Neither does 4. The series has changed with the influence of the time. If you don’t like the look that’s fine. But the trailer displayed plenty of horror like creatures. So it hasn’t dropped that.

Yeah it doesn’t look very cyberpunk. It does look like more modern anime. But as awesome as the character art is in these games. It’s not like Kaneko’s art wasn’t out there for 90s aesthetic.

[naff]

hey now, i think because you are a GAMER you are INCAPABLE of targeting my main points 

[Himu]

Strange Journey was only one example but ok.

It's extremely flashy. They're showing off flash in a series not known for it.

[remy]

a guy with black jorts and glowing neon shaman tattoos punching the shit out of the netherworld was pretty flashy... this a game where dante jumps off a building and shoots you with two guns

[Himu]

See. Gamers with their gotcha arguments.

[Rahxephon91]

It for sure is lacking the grit and grime of the early games. And the music and visuals don't remind me of the quiet abstract apocalypse feeling of 3. It's a bit more bright and colorful sure.

I still think it looks solid. It certainly doesn't look like some cheerful jpop jrpg or something though.

[remy]

I like flashy stuff 



Fusion animation

[Bebpo]

I'm getting old and it all looks the same to me whether it's Nocturne or Persona 5 or SMTV or whatever /shrug

[Nintex]

Gamers gotta Gatcha 'em all 

[remy]

just thinking about how blessed I am that SMT is staying true to its roots with an excellent classic turn based battle system instead of turning into a half baked action game like other long running rpg series

[thetylerrob]

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a guy with black jorts and glowing neon shaman tattoos punching the shit out of the netherworld was pretty flashy... this a game where dante jumps off a building and shoots you with two guns

Demifiend is the dumbest fucking character design ever