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« Reply #18900 on: April 28, 2022, 11:36:35 AM »
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« Reply #18901 on: April 28, 2022, 12:00:45 PM »
"excelsiorlef said:

I've condemned Amber Heard.

Leave me out of this."

Sure chief

Cauliflower Of Love

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« Reply #18902 on: April 28, 2022, 12:29:41 PM »
More like AM never Heard of her.


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Cauliflower Of Love

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« Reply #18904 on: April 28, 2022, 12:43:02 PM »

Cauliflower Of Love

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« Reply #18905 on: April 28, 2022, 01:42:26 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/cnn-the-republican-blueprint-to-steal-the-2024-election.577973/


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I’m really beginning to think that the seat Obama should have appointed and RBG not retiring sooner may be the lynchpin our democracy will fall upon.


Imagine putting the blame on the current situation on Obama and Ruth Baiter Ginsburg.


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Cauliflower Of Love

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #18906 on: April 28, 2022, 01:47:46 PM »
musk hates trans people.

https://www.resetera.com/goto/post?id=85778179

https://consequence.net/2022/03/elon-musk-transphobic-meme-grimes-dating-chelsea-manning/


also apparently people love traitor manning again?




Imagine not knowing what p2p encryption is and then weaponizing it.

GreatSageEqualOfHeaven

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #18907 on: April 28, 2022, 02:17:49 PM »
But that was last season Morrigers. It'd be fun to have new season, fuck the power rage against the machine Morry come over.

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« Reply #18908 on: April 28, 2022, 02:17:55 PM »
Same dumb take making the rounds on Twitter

https://twitter.com/kmele/status/1519699428206067713

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #18909 on: April 28, 2022, 02:34:58 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-internet-and-the-two-minutes-hate.577765/

Kyuuji: "I don't see the problem?" :pika

Messofaneggo: "it might be bad, when its for people who don't deserve it anyway" :iface

RedMercureeeee: "its fine, I don't think the people who dogpile even think much about it afterwards, so thats okay then" :wut


I guess incelchief missed this thread and the opportunity to state that cancel culture isnt even real

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #18910 on: April 28, 2022, 02:41:48 PM »

Cauliflower Of Love

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« Reply #18911 on: April 28, 2022, 02:41:51 PM »
too busy trying to compile a masatadon client.

Boredfrom

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« Reply #18912 on: April 28, 2022, 02:59:00 PM »

Cauliflower Of Love

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« Reply #18913 on: April 28, 2022, 03:02:12 PM »
Mask's off and he's embracing just being another alt-right troll.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1519735033950470144

:dunno

Being fair, becoming a conservative is also all kinds of shitty.

yea also, liberals don't fart that big

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« Reply #18914 on: April 28, 2022, 03:28:24 PM »
I was on board with Elon's goals for a less censored twitter but the idea that the complany is now run by someone who thinks that picture is funny or insightful or witty scares me a bit. He should stick to his strong suits, rocket science, and not his weaknesses, social interaction.

Cauliflower Of Love

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« Reply #18915 on: April 28, 2022, 03:47:05 PM »
I mean, if we dig down into the picture, he's not wrong.

The right hasn't changed, neither has their perception on the scale. 

They're just laughing it up while liberals try to reframe themselves in the eyes of the others.

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« Reply #18916 on: April 28, 2022, 04:13:29 PM »
It's misleading and classic data manipulation. The marker for Conservative stays in the same place, but it's also further away from "center". And then there's the scale changing. I get that he's saying Liberals are further left, but is he saying Conservatives are further right as well? Whatever point he's trying to make is too muddled by the shittiness of the graphic. He thinks he's PBF but he's worse at memes than a senate Democrat, and that's saying something.

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« Reply #18917 on: April 28, 2022, 04:20:39 PM »
I've been thinking about this recently, seen a ton of overton window memes along these lines



but I've also heard good arguments stating the opposite, that the overton window shifted the other way, and images like his above

is it just both sides saying "no u," or do both interpretations sort of work out?

like if you shift the window to the right, it does create a longer tail on the left

or if people radicalize left, they look at where they once stood and say "wow I used to be so much closer to the right, the window's way over there and I'm supposedly too far left now, things have gotten so much worse"

It's misleading and classic data manipulation. The marker for Conservative stays in the same place, but it's also further away from "center". And then there's the scale changing. I get that he's saying Liberals are further left, but is he saying Conservatives are further right as well? Whatever point he's trying to make is too muddled by the shittiness of the graphic. He thinks he's PBF but he's worse at memes than a senate Democrat, and that's saying something.

he's saying that the growth of extreme leftist views has recontextualized where the center is located, even though everyone else didn't significantly change their worldviews

one example might be the idea that hiring the most qualified candidate for a job regardless of race or gender used to be seen as a left-leaning position, but now it's a right wing dogwhistle because "everyone knows" that hiring practices aren't colorblind so you still end up hiring whites, and the current left position is that the best way to correct the imbalance to hire a quota of other races, even if a white candidate seems more qualified

so if you still believe you should make a genuine effort to hire the best person suited to a job, you are now espousing a bigoted right wing view rather than a left one
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« Reply #18919 on: April 28, 2022, 04:54:03 PM »
They're so obsessed with that mask off line lol

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #18920 on: April 28, 2022, 04:58:37 PM »
I don’t know how you can look at conservatives prior to trump and now and say that republicans haven’t changed. :idont

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« Reply #18921 on: April 28, 2022, 05:00:56 PM »
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he's saying that the growth of extreme leftist views has recontextualized where the center is located, even though everyone else didn't significantly change their worldviews

Come on, man. Trump really changed a lot of assholes for the worst.

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« Reply #18922 on: April 28, 2022, 05:11:15 PM »
I don’t know how you can look at conservatives prior to trump and now and say that republicans haven’t changed. :idont

how far prior to trump, though? less than 20 years ago there were movies that had the word f*ggot in them and you were supposed to laugh at it

now the right has extremely meek takes like "how dare the left take away the green m&m's high heels" and "please don't ban this dr. seuss book"

himu just showed back up on the forum saying "they shouldn't have legalized gay marriage" which doesn't seem like moving further right from 2004-2015's "they shouldn't legalize gay marriage"

it seems like staying in the same ideological place (and in all honesty it seems further right than you will hear from most right wingers right now)

but when the rest of the culture makes that view less and less acceptable, it feels like it's moved further right, when it's really just the same opinion
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #18923 on: April 28, 2022, 05:13:43 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/do-you-plan-to-leave-twitter-after-the-elon-musk-takeover.576661/page-3#post-85631188

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Cauliflower Of Love

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« Reply #18924 on: April 28, 2022, 05:18:35 PM »
I don’t know how you can look at conservatives prior to trump and now and say that republicans haven’t changed. :idont

They're just more open about it.

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« Reply #18925 on: April 28, 2022, 05:23:27 PM »
I don’t know how you can look at conservatives prior to trump and now and say that republicans haven’t changed. :idont

how far prior to trump, though? less than 20 years ago there were movies that had the word f*ggot in them and you were supposed to laugh at it

now the right has extremely meek takes like "how dare the left take away the green m&m's high heels" and "please don't ban this dr. seuss book"

himu just showed back up on the forum saying "they shouldn't have legalized gay marriage" which doesn't seem like moving further right from 2004-2015's "they shouldn't legalize gay marriage"

it seems like staying in the same ideological place (and in all honesty it seems further right than you will hear from most right wingers right now)

but when the rest of the culture makes that view less and less acceptable, it feels like it's moved further right, when it's really just the same opinion

We are not just talking about culture wars sperging, but stuff like antiVaxx expanding. Or ProRussia sentimient. Or non fiscal responsibility.


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They're just more open about it.

You could say the same shit with leftists.

Cauliflower Of Love

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #18926 on: April 28, 2022, 05:38:12 PM »
Not really, leftist used to hate gays just as much as conservatives

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« Reply #18927 on: April 28, 2022, 05:39:50 PM »
I don’t know how you can look at conservatives prior to trump and now and say that republicans haven’t changed. :idont

how far prior to trump, though? less than 20 years ago there were movies that had the word f*ggot in them and you were supposed to laugh at it

now the right has extremely meek takes like "how dare the left take away the green m&m's high heels" and "please don't ban this dr. seuss book"

himu just showed back up on the forum saying "they shouldn't have legalized gay marriage" which doesn't seem like moving further right from 2004-2015's "they shouldn't legalize gay marriage"

it seems like staying in the same ideological place (and in all honesty it seems further right than you will hear from most right wingers right now)

but when the rest of the culture makes that view less and less acceptable, it feels like it's moved further right, when it's really just the same opinion

Society as a whole was pretty anti gay not that long ago, it wasn’t an exclusively right wing position in the US until recently.  The biggest change to me is that republicans don’t seem to stand for anything anymore.  Himu is a great example of this mentality, he was back for 3 hours and was posting “lib tears” this, “owned the libs” that.  They seem to be an entirely reactionary party now.  Repugnant as well but just motivated to do whatever the opposite of what liberals want even if it would benefit them too.  Of course the racism is the most overt it’s been since the civil rights era as well.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #18928 on: April 28, 2022, 05:46:15 PM »
It's misleading and classic data manipulation. The marker for Conservative stays in the same place, but it's also further away from "center". And then there's the scale changing. I get that he's saying Liberals are further left, but is he saying Conservatives are further right as well? Whatever point he's trying to make is too muddled by the shittiness of the graphic. He thinks he's PBF but he's worse at memes than a senate Democrat, and that's saying something.
Elon didn't make it, he just reposted it. That image has been around for ages.

I've been thinking about this recently, seen a ton of overton window memes along these lines

(Image removed from quote.)

but I've also heard good arguments stating the opposite, that the overton window shifted the other way, and images like his above

is it just both sides saying "no u," or do both interpretations sort of work out?
It only makes sense if the two end poles are already defined and make sense and actually represent views. Except they don't. The terms are completely based on self-identification and in the United States are tied to two large corporations with an antagonistic zero-sum relationship rather than actual ideologies.

A "left-right" spectrum only makes sense when you reduce it to a single concept such as "collectivism vs. individualism" or "state ownership vs. private ownership" or something else along those lines. When you make it a grab bag of "Democratic Party associated views vs. Republican Party associated views" it will never make sense. Even the common one you're taught in schools of "social freedom, economic control vs. economic freedom, social control" has never worked or made sense because it places both "social freedom, economic freedom" and "social control, economic control" either in the center simultaneously (the traditional idiot view) or one of those completely off the spectrum (the actual way it would work if it were a spectrum) instantly debunking itself.

The point of "left" and "right" is to identify yourself to others and let them assume the entire field of views you hold even if you don't actually hold any particular one of them. If I decide that when you tell me you're on the "left" that means you want to bash gays in the head for stealing representation in video games, support major corporations doing whatever they want and suppress free speech of individuals it's your own problem if "THAT'S NOT WHAT I MEANT I ACTUALLY MEANT UTOPIAN COMMUNISM" is your ideal. The entire point is to write people off as not belonging to your "side" if they deviate by either writing JOANNE TERF BITCH out of the "left" or saying that Republicans who don't genuflect enough to Trump are "leftists" or that if you're opposed to immediate communism you're a social fascist until we sign a secret deal to divide Poland until one side breaks that deal and invades us and now working with capitalist democracies is actually a good thing and has been the proper view all along until the war ends and then we become revisionists because Mao has a staked out a position further to the "left" and is the true non-betrayer of the revolution now.

In a system where you can't simply dictate any view and impose it on the populace and must pursue compromise and incremental change then you're just social signaling about how you perceive your maximalist "pure" identity, not actually practicing adherence to a clear ideology that marks off obvious deviation which undermines your position.
« Last Edit: April 28, 2022, 05:50:44 PM by benjipwns »

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #18929 on: April 28, 2022, 05:53:54 PM »
I'm gonna read all benji posts in my head with the voice and cadence of Ben Croshaw of Zero Punctuation
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #18930 on: April 28, 2022, 06:17:38 PM »
This one is for Benji.

Quote from: Mancha
Saw some stuff from the panelists of Legal Bytes and a whole vibe on their live chat and I don’t feel comfortable sharing their streams any longer.

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What happened?


https://www.resetera.com/threads/johnny-depp-v-amber-heards-defamation-trial-is-underway.572257/page-25#post-85812650
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Crazy bullshit about how ACLU should go back to their ways to defend free speech to nazis and kkk and the Legal Bytes host actively endorsed the stupid idea that to protect free speech, speeches like those should be protected by the 1st Amendment. This happened during a rant of one of the panelists that said that he used to contribute to ACLU before it got ‘too woke’. Like I said, trash and I’d highly recommend to drop that channel altogether. It happened during the lunch break. Just atrocious stuff.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #18931 on: April 28, 2022, 06:28:45 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/do-you-plan-to-leave-twitter-after-the-elon-musk-takeover.576661/page-3#post-85631188

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And many aren't as privileged as you are and would rather not have their already marginalized voices drowned out by bigots and white supremacists under the guise of "freeze peach".
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« Reply #18932 on: April 28, 2022, 06:33:25 PM »
I don’t know how you can look at conservatives prior to trump and now and say that republicans haven’t changed. :idont

Yeah, gotta agree with this. I considered, and still do consider myself conservative, but my classical definition of that term didn't jive with most republicans even back in the 90s and is alien to what dunderhead trumpers and republicans think of it nowadays. I now feel like the lone japanese soldier on the pacific island who thinks WWII is still on.
« Last Edit: April 28, 2022, 06:38:28 PM by joeboy101 »

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« Reply #18933 on: April 28, 2022, 06:50:39 PM »
Or ProRussia sentimient.

this in particular is an extremely small minority

https://twitter.com/conorsen/status/1502664180406620164

you can say "that any pro Russia sentiment exists at all is alarming" but you can find tankies on the left too who hate Zelenskyy because he's a horrible right winger who supports Israel and wants Ukraine to not be liberal or European
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« Reply #18934 on: April 28, 2022, 06:53:20 PM »
This one is for Benji.

Quote from: Mancha
Saw some stuff from the panelists of Legal Bytes and a whole vibe on their live chat and I don’t feel comfortable sharing their streams any longer.

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What happened?


https://www.resetera.com/threads/johnny-depp-v-amber-heards-defamation-trial-is-underway.572257/page-25#post-85812650
Quote from: Mancha
Crazy bullshit about how ACLU should go back to their ways to defend free speech to nazis and kkk and the Legal Bytes host actively endorsed the stupid idea that to protect free speech, speeches like those should be protected by the 1st Amendment. This happened during a rant of one of the panelists that said that he used to contribute to ACLU before it got ‘too woke’. Like I said, trash and I’d highly recommend to drop that channel altogether. It happened during the lunch break. Just atrocious stuff.


That thread is weird, everyone agrees that Amber Heard is most probably playing the victim and acting like a psycho while they were wrong about Depp... but people still bitch about “both sides” or “whataboutism”. At best some people are pointing out how superficial was the reporting about DeppVSHeard early on but nobody seems to connect the dots of “maybe our attitude is at fault that psychos like Heard can take advantage of the socio political climate and maybe we should not care that much about celebrity gossip to begin with”.

Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #18935 on: April 28, 2022, 06:53:33 PM »
I'm gonna read all benji posts in my head with the voice and cadence of Ben Croshaw of Zero Punctuation
i hear them like this

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« Reply #18936 on: April 28, 2022, 06:58:28 PM »
Or ProRussia sentimient.

this in particular is an extremely small minority

https://twitter.com/conorsen/status/1502664180406620164

you can say "that any pro Russia sentiment exists at all is alarming" but you can find tankies on the left too who hate Zelenskyy because he's a horrible right winger who supports Israel and wants Ukraine to not be liberal or European

And yet most people in that party will not call out Trump for waiting to suck Putin cock so hard or how his impeachment was not without reason given that he was essentially trying to manipulate Ukraine (or how hard he was trying to kill NATO).

Is like a McCarthy and McDonell cursing Trump out of public eye but kissing the ring when their power is threatened.

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« Reply #18937 on: April 28, 2022, 07:16:25 PM »
This one is for Benji.

Quote from: Mancha
Saw some stuff from the panelists of Legal Bytes and a whole vibe on their live chat and I don’t feel comfortable sharing their streams any longer.

Quote from: Zor
What happened?


https://www.resetera.com/threads/johnny-depp-v-amber-heards-defamation-trial-is-underway.572257/page-25#post-85812650
Quote from: Mancha
Crazy bullshit about how ACLU should go back to their ways to defend free speech to nazis and kkk and the Legal Bytes host actively endorsed the stupid idea that to protect free speech, speeches like those should be protected by the 1st Amendment. This happened during a rant of one of the panelists that said that he used to contribute to ACLU before it got ‘too woke’. Like I said, trash and I’d highly recommend to drop that channel altogether. It happened during the lunch break. Just atrocious stuff.


That thread is weird, everyone agrees that Amber Heard is most probably playing the victim and acting like a psycho while they were wrong about Depp... but people still bitch about “both sides” or “whataboutism”. At best some people are pointing out how superficial was the reporting about DeppVSHeard early on but nobody seems to connect the dots of “maybe our attitude is at fault that psychos like Heard can take advantage of the socio political climate and maybe we should not care that much about celebrity gossip to begin with”.

Someone brought up how "trust and verify" might be a more sensible believe set but that was shot down with "but the alt-right says that"

It's this dumb culture war where you can't even acknowledge a mistake because that might give the other side "points"

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #18938 on: April 28, 2022, 07:22:38 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/celeb-news-demi-lovato-says-they-identify-as-non-binary-and-will-be-officially-changing-their-pronouns.427991/

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #18939 on: April 28, 2022, 07:37:12 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/celeb-news-demi-lovato-says-they-identify-as-non-binary-and-will-be-officially-changing-their-pronouns.427991/#post-85821806

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« Reply #18940 on: April 28, 2022, 07:37:16 PM »
Fuck anyone who questions the validity of changing pronouns or complains about the inconvenience or says it’s attention seeking. You are why trans people stay in the closet. Learn to treat people with basic dignity. When people tell you “this is who I am”, say “cool”, and move on. Appreciate the privilege that comes with not have to deal with assholes rolling their eyes and making The One Joke about gender identity and also abusing or murdering you for being truthful about your gender. Be better.

BIONIC, everything alright pal?


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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #18942 on: April 28, 2022, 08:31:09 PM »
you can say "that any pro Russia sentiment exists at all is alarming" but you can find tankies on the left too who hate Zelenskyy because he's a horrible right winger who supports Israel and wants Ukraine to not be liberal or European
Disappointed this isn't a link to the ResetERA.com thread where this happened. :hmph

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« Reply #18943 on: April 28, 2022, 08:32:25 PM »
This one is for Benji.

Quote from: Mancha
Saw some stuff from the panelists of Legal Bytes and a whole vibe on their live chat and I don’t feel comfortable sharing their streams any longer.

Quote from: Zor
What happened?


https://www.resetera.com/threads/johnny-depp-v-amber-heards-defamation-trial-is-underway.572257/page-25#post-85812650
Quote from: Mancha
Crazy bullshit about how ACLU should go back to their ways to defend free speech to nazis and kkk and the Legal Bytes host actively endorsed the stupid idea that to protect free speech, speeches like those should be protected by the 1st Amendment. This happened during a rant of one of the panelists that said that he used to contribute to ACLU before it got ‘too woke’. Like I said, trash and I’d highly recommend to drop that channel altogether. It happened during the lunch break. Just atrocious stuff.
Fucking atrocious bigots who think "shall make no law" means that literally instead of "shall make law whenever it wants to suppress marginalized voices" in 2022, like I can't even right now with that vibe.

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« Reply #18944 on: April 28, 2022, 08:34:25 PM »
Fuck anyone who questions the validity of changing pronouns or complains about the inconvenience or says it’s attention seeking. You are why trans people stay in the closet. Learn to treat people with basic dignity. When people tell you “this is who I am”, say “cool”, and move on. Appreciate the privilege that comes with not have to deal with assholes rolling their eyes and making The One Joke about gender identity and also abusing or murdering you for being truthful about your gender. Be better.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #18945 on: April 28, 2022, 08:49:14 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/captain-astronauts-why-no-black-people-in-video-games-video-deemed-hateful-derogatory-by-youtube-after-manual-review-monetization-was-limited.578081/
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good video I watched all the way through with very reasonable, intelligent takes

however yes it's not advertiser-friendly, he doesn't resist being an edgy boi at times, briefly political, capitalism being bad (the least advertiser-friendly thing), Donkey Kong as a black character meme, big bold RACIST on screen, etc

get banned on era for posting this screengrab without context, and advertisers do not care about context

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« Reply #18946 on: April 28, 2022, 08:54:08 PM »
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I’m not surprised. This idea of internet libertarianism (“The Marketplace of Ideas”) was always going to give way to fascism.

Techno-oligarchies are going to increasingly make moves like this in the future. Expect it to happen more on Twitter too now that Musk is in charge.

yes it's literally fascist to still be able to post your video and even be able to earn revenue from Youtube Premium and get ads from advertisers who don't mind the content
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #18947 on: April 28, 2022, 08:59:41 PM »
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This idea of internet libertarianism (“The Marketplace of Ideas”) was always going to give way to fascism.
Really don't understand how this theory is supposed to work in these people's brains.

"The problem is that too much free speech and free markets will lead to roaring success for everyone with increased proliferation of platforms from nothingness at which point fascism simply takes over without any resistance." :idont

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #18948 on: April 28, 2022, 10:16:10 PM »
 :drudge ISLAMOPHOBIA :drudge
I mainly wish that shit like

guns
racism
hate speech
homophobia
misogyny/misandry &
religion in general

Were all illegal everywhere like we just did with lynching, & not just here in this country. It would make the world a better place.
Watch the fascist staff refuse to ban this violent bigot for his hate speech. Might as well let Elon moderate ResetERA.com really if they're going to allow this kind of far-right shit on their forum in the middle of a war in the middle of a pandemic just years after Gamergate.

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« Reply #18949 on: April 28, 2022, 10:17:23 PM »
I got a DM from a dude on discord asking me about my politics, he said I must be a socialist at least which he said he found surprising cause I was such a dick.

Anyway the left rules the right drools I'm out losers.

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« Reply #18950 on: April 28, 2022, 10:23:56 PM »
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How the fuck is this lukewarm Tim Pool take getting 900k likes?
Because it resonates with a lot of people?
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Another troll undermining productive discussion annihilated by the tireless staff. :american

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #18951 on: April 28, 2022, 10:29:58 PM »
Can’t believe this day one troll account with 11k+ posts hid under the radar for so long!
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« Reply #18952 on: April 28, 2022, 10:41:17 PM »
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are you threatening me with moderation for not falling in line with groupthink here?
This is some serious loser speak lol
All the cool kids agree. :smug

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« Reply #18953 on: April 28, 2022, 10:43:22 PM »

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« Reply #18954 on: April 29, 2022, 12:41:58 AM »
you can say "that any pro Russia sentiment exists at all is alarming" but you can find tankies on the left too who hate Zelenskyy because he's a horrible right winger who supports Israel and wants Ukraine to not be liberal or European
Disappointed this isn't a link to the ResetERA.com thread where this happened. :hmph

https://www.resetera.com/threads/israeli-forces-storm-the-al-aqsa-mosque-yet-again-400-palestinians-arrested-150-injured.573397/page-2#post-85201864

Anton Sugar is still permed, so I guess the mods investigated themselves and decided they didn't do anything wrong. :cop
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #18955 on: April 29, 2022, 01:40:54 AM »
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« Reply #18956 on: April 29, 2022, 01:44:25 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/parents-of-kids-under-5-fed-up-with-lack-of-fda-action-on-covid-vaccine-stuck-in-a-cruel-pandemic-time-warp.577627/#post-85758280

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« Reply #18957 on: April 29, 2022, 01:47:00 AM »
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Looks rad, but I can't see myself giving up dump truck ass Chun Li for... reasons.

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« Reply #18958 on: April 29, 2022, 01:50:40 AM »
The church's official glossary defines a Suppressive Person as being:

a person who possesses a distinct set of characteristics and mental attitudes that cause him to suppress other people in his vicinity. This is the person whose behavior is calculated to be disastrous. Also called antisocial personality.[8]

The church regards these "antisocial personalities" as being those "who possess characteristics and mental attitudes that cause them to violently oppose any betterment activity or group,"[9] This concern with "groups" continues in the official Scientology Handbook, which states the corollary: "The antisocial personality supports only destructive groups."[10]

Policies and practices
According to the Hubbard textbook Introduction to Scientology Ethics ("the Ethics book"), when an individual is found to be under the influence of a Suppressive Person, it is believed that this will affect their general well-being. An individual with an SP in their vicinity is likely to be under stress or frequently upset, and this would potentially jeopardize the stability of any treatment or education. Therefore, a parishioner who is found to have such suppressive connections is not permitted to participate in certain Scientology classes and counseling until the situation has been adequately resolved.

The Ethics book provides a guideline for use in sorting out such a condition. A first step is always to educate the person about the phenomenon of the Suppressive Person and the effects this is believed to have on the individuals close to the SP. Once the education step is completed, the person can further follow the guidelines to sort out the situation so that the parishioner is no longer negatively affected.

Scientology Security checks are also common for SP and PTS situations. If reasonable attempts have been made to "handle" the situation to no avail, the parishioner may take the option of "disconnecting" from the SP. In Introduction to Scientology Ethics, "disconnection" is defined as a self-determined decision made by an individual that he is not going to be connected to another. It is a severing of communication by one individual against the other.

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Non-Scientologists as well as Scientologists can be and have been labelled Suppressive Persons. A Suppressive Person is anyone who has been responsible for "suppressive acts", defined by Hubbard as being "the overt or covert actions or omissions knowingly and willfully undertaken to suppress, reduce, prevent or destroy case gains, and/or the influence of Scn on activities, and/or the continued Scn success and actions on the part of organizations actions and Scientologists."[14] Similarly, entire groups can be declared Suppressive; Suppressive Groups, in Hubbard's view, are "those which seek to destroy Scn or which specialize in injuring or killing persons or damaging their cases or which advocate suppression of mankind."[15] Under this broader definition, suppressiveness included more than just publicly opposing Scientology; it also included any group supporting activities to which Hubbard was strongly opposed, especially psychiatry. Specifically, Hubbard considered reporters and government agents to be members of Suppressive Groups: "There are no good reporters. There are no good government or SP group agents. The longer you try to be nice, the worse off you will be. And the sooner one learns this, the happier he will be."[16]

The Church of Scientology maintains a central list of ex-members and splinter groups formally declared to be Suppressive. In an executive directive of 1992, the Church's "International Justice Chief" lists over 400 groups and over 2,300 individuals considered to be Suppressive.[17] The list includes individual ex-Scientologists and breakaway groups regarded as hostile or heretical, such as Erhard Seminars Training (EST).

Abuse of the label
In a lecture he made on 19 July 1966, L. Ron Hubbard expressed concern about the possible abuse of the "Suppressive Person" label in respect of those who are otherwise good citizens and contribute to civil society:

You should upgrade your idea of what an SP is. Man, meet one sometime! A real one! A real monster....Well, in all the time we've been around here we only had one SP that I know of. One real SP that was on staff.... And I don't know of another single SP that we've ever had on staff. Isn't that interesting. You see all these SP orders and so on...Don't throw it around carelessly, because this is an—a very exaggerated condition, SP.[18]
Disconnection is the severance of all ties between a Scientologist and a friend, colleague, or family member deemed to be antagonistic towards Scientology. The practice of disconnection is a form of shunning.[1][page needed] Among Scientologists, disconnection is viewed as an important method of removing obstacles to one's spiritual growth. In some circumstances, disconnection has ended marriages and separated children from their parents.[2][3][4][5][6] The Church of Scientology has repeatedly denied that such a policy exists,[7][8][9] though as of February 2012 its website acknowledged the practice and described it as a human right.[10] In the United States, the Church has tried to argue in court that disconnection is a constitutionally protected religious practice. However, this argument was rejected because the pressure put on individual Scientologists to disconnect means it is not voluntary.[11]

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In Introduction to Scientology Ethics, L. Ron Hubbard sets out the doctrine that by being connected to Suppressive Persons, a Scientologist could become a Potential Trouble Source (PTS):

A Scientologist can become PTS by reason of being connected to someone that is antagonistic to Scientology or its tenets. In order to resolve the PTS condition, he either HANDLES the other person's antagonism (as covered in the materials on PTS handling) or, as a last resort when all attempts to handle have failed, he disconnects from the person. He is simply exercising his right to communicate or not to communicate with a particular person.[12]

Hubbard defined "handling" as an action to lessen a situation towards an antagonistic individual by means of communication, and disconnection as a decision to cut communication with another individual.[12] Hubbard also wrote that Scientology Ethics Officers should recommend handling rather than disconnection when the antagonistic individual is a close relative.[13] He also stated that failure, or refusal, to disconnect from a Suppressive Person is a Suppressive Act by itself.[14] In one case cited by the UK government, a six-year-old girl was declared Suppressive for failing to disconnect from her mother.[6]

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According to Church statements, disconnection is used as a "last resort", only to be employed if the people antagonistic to Scientology do not cease their antagonism—even after being provided with "true data" about Scientology, since it is taught that usually only people with false data are antagonistic to the Church.[15]
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #18959 on: April 29, 2022, 02:07:30 AM »
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Looks rad, but I can't see myself giving up dump truck ass Chun Li for... reasons.
Some really prude ( presume fat and flat assed) mod always bans people for using dump truck or dumpy

kinda homophobic and anti black imo