Other Forums Containment Thread

[HaughtyFrank]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/deadline-robbie-coltrane-dies-%E2%80%98harry-potter%E2%80%99-%E2%80%98james-bond%E2%80%99-%E2%80%98cracker%E2%80%99-star-was-72.643500/page-4#post-94905702

Locking this temporarily while we review reports

 

Locking forward to the "Robbie Coltrane was a very controversial figure..." threadmark

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/deadline-robbie-coltrane-dies-%E2%80%98harry-potter%E2%80%99-%E2%80%98james-bond%E2%80%99-%E2%80%98cracker%E2%80%99-star-was-72.643500/page-4#post-94899936

Just gonna boost this to make sure it's on every page. Fuck TERFs. I don't magically start respecting someone just because they died if I didn't respect them while they were alive.

Yawn.

User Banned (permanent): Troll account

https://www.resetera.com/threads/deadline-robbie-coltrane-dies-%E2%80%98harry-potter%E2%80%99-%E2%80%98james-bond%E2%80%99-%E2%80%98cracker%E2%80%99-star-was-72.643500/page-4#post-94900575

Just gonna boost this to make sure it's on every page. Fuck TERFs. I don't magically start respecting someone just because they died if I didn't respect them while they were alive.

Go get some psychological help, you clearly need it. The only thing your posts are doing is proving him correct.

RIP to Coltrane, he seemed like a genuinely nice person who was liked by everyone that worked with him. I first saw him in Cracker but Hagrid was his best role and the one he’ll be remembered for

User banned (permanent): Hostility and transphobic rhetoric over a series of posts

[Snoopycat_]

They really are the new BCT aren't they

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/deadline-robbie-coltrane-dies-%E2%80%98harry-potter%E2%80%99-%E2%80%98james-bond%E2%80%99-%E2%80%98cracker%E2%80%99-star-was-72.643500/page-4#post-94903572

The part about going on the internet waiting for something to be offended about. Coltrane’s comments were not TERF or anti trans, he simply stuck up for his friend because she was getting death threats from people online because of her comments (which he neither agreed or disagreed with), and thought that too many people (in general) are too sensitive and get angry over everything. Something that ConVito is proving correct by continuing to come into this thread which is about the news of Coltrane’s passing, for the sole purpose of bashing the man and twisting his comments to accuse him of being a TERF. That kind of behavior is not normal, is inappropriate and the person should seek help.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/deadline-robbie-coltrane-dies-%E2%80%98harry-potter%E2%80%99-%E2%80%98james-bond%E2%80%99-%E2%80%98cracker%E2%80%99-star-was-72.643500/page-4#post-94903647

User banned (1 month): Agreeing with a post banned for inappropriate commentary

100% agree

[Snoopycat_]

Ree when they first started -

It's a new dawn. It's a new day. Our moderation will be completely different from the old place. No more cliques. No more mod personalities or favourites. Permanent bans will be a last resort.


Ree now -


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[SmokyDave]

Good to see reset continuing to raise awareness of the plight of transphobia. I can’t imagine how I’d feel having to read tweets like ‘people are looking to be offended’ in the middle of an ongoing genocide.

I’m certain that sustained efforts such as these will make a difference when it comes to people supporting trans rights.

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/gotham-knights-on-consoles-will-run-at-30-fps-with-no-performance-quality-mode-option.643665/page-10#post-94902918

I still have a thread bookmarked from a couple of years ago where I predicted the majority of PS5/XSX titles would have 60FPS as an option. Most of you were clowning me in that thread. Now 2 years later a game dares not include 60FPS and the internet is having a hissy fit. Now time to see if this will become a thing now that crossgen is ending or if I will be right and get to make many of you eat Crow. I plan to revisit the thread in 2025 (I set a reminder in my calendar). Even if I'm right I'll probably get criticized for bringing up "old news" but at least I'll have personal satisfaction.

The Same thing happened when I predicted that the majority of posters would go all digital like 10 years ago on GAF, I was clowned to no end and I bet many of those that were clowning me now are mostly digital.

I'd normally say "who remembers shit like this" but given how often reee drags people for saying something decades ago it wouldn't make much sense

Lol, so bitter.

Just letting forum posters live rent free in your head. 😅

[Sman]

Nepenthe random race-obsessed meltdown #5473

You're talking down to a Black professional animator. I already fucking know what it's like to have your art and yourself as an artist, both in present day and historically, undervalued and considered worthless.
But your flippant rhetoric about the painting itself being expendable is the same shit people say about what I do, and my craft in general.

We can criticize how high art ties back into systems of capitalism and class and white supremacy without targeting the very existence of the original works themselves. None of that please.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/climate-protesters-throw-tomato-soup-at-van-goghs-sunflowers-painting.643485/page-10#post-94874025

Does she have a site with her art?

www.furrycapoiera.net

That link does not comply with EU's GDPR. This mirror site of hers does:

www.furrycapoiera.eu

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/do-you-drink-bottled-water-at-home-or-are-you-a-normal-person.643650/

I have a friend who I just found out only drinks bottled water. When he goes to the grocery store, he gets bottled water for him to drink for the week.

Is this normal? Or is this insane? Am I crazy for just drinking tap water or slapping a filter on the faucet? Have I been living a lie?

Asking ResetEra if they're normal 

[ShutUp]

Robbie Coltrane sticks up for a friend 

Letitia Wright shares a transphobic anti-vax video to millions of her followers and never apologizes for it 


And since you read this thread Era mods, yes, this is the mindset you’ve allowed to rot that site from the inside out because you are cowards afraid to tell two communities (at the expense of many others who finally had enough, left the site and formed their own boards) how its going to be and if they don’t like it, then leave. Good job. Hope the zero amounts of dollars you get for being utterly spineless are worth it!

[Lonewulfeus]

They really are the new BCT aren't they

Alright, this thread is now unlocked. Anyone,  anyone who to talk past our trans members or downplay transphobia will be shown the door.

Cheeseburgers on resetera are right about everything at all times

[BIONIC]

Wouldn’t mind a nice juicy cheeseburger right about now 

[Nintex]

Has Ree picked up on the Bayonetta story yet? Will they cancel Nintendo or side with the capitalists?

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/do-you-remember-the-outrage-over-a-trans-teacher-with-obscenely-big-boobs.643791/

Well.

It turns out it was a hoax started by the far-right chuds at Rebel News.

They keep saying chuds, why are they describing themselves?

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/musk-threatens-to-stop-funding-starlink-internet-ukraine-relies-on-in-war.643638/#post-94884756

Honestly throw this dude in jail at this point

For what?

[Pissy F Benny]

and who would be doing the arrest and throwing in jail?

[Uncle]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/musk-threatens-to-stop-funding-starlink-internet-ukraine-relies-on-in-war.643638/#post-94884756

Honestly throw this dude in jail at this point

For what?

the first time a soldier dies due to lack of information starlink could've provided to him, musk literally killed that man (or woman!)

[Pissy F Benny]

for a forum supposedly staunchly opposed the po po they sure want a lot of police work done

or is karen from social services going to arrest musk?

[Nintex]

Ah I have my answer

FYI: and IDK if this adds anything, but someone on Twitter I follow checked Hellena's Taylor's twitter acount, and apparently she follows the Trump family???

so uhhh IDK if that is a factor in what potentially could have happened with her but I think it's worth bringing it up regardless cause yeah I would be glad if they replaced someone that seemed ignorant to Trump's actions.

[HaughtyFrank]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/do-you-remember-the-outrage-over-a-trans-teacher-with-obscenely-big-boobs.643791/

Well.

It turns out it was a hoax started by the far-right chuds at Rebel News.

They keep saying chuds, why are they describing themselves?

It's funny how that person being a right wing troll is the only way they can conclude that it's unacceptable to teach kids while wearing giant fake tits, but now the thread is realizing that there actually isn't any proof so I guess it's back to respecting the right to wear fake tits in school again.

[Nintex]

Unpopular opinion here but they offered her a price and she refused. That’s business. They are not obligated to use her just like she’s not obligated to take their lowball offer.

Not sure how I feel about crying to the fanbase about contract negotiations and trying to damage the game that other people are probably getting paid based on sales for.

And exactly how is this fair to the new VA? She’ll probably get some backlash from idiot fans over this.

What the hell is with all the kneejerk "fuck Nintendo" in this thread? This wouldn't have been them; they didn't have any role in production. It would have been Platinum. She never even mentions Nintendo apart from tagging them in the tweets, which is probably more just to draw their attention to the issue she had with Platinum than anything. She does mention Kamiya by name as the buck-stops-here name she appealed to.

Come on, you guys are smarter than this.

[Taco Bell Tower]

Come on, you guys are smarter than this.

Oh man, I needed a good laugh.

[Taco Bell Tower]

Kinthey

Never heard such a heartfelt call to boycott a game. Definitely feel like I need to reevaluate now....

[Propagandhim]

Bayonetta story is weird.  Sounds like they wanted to get rid of her and offered her a pittance that they knew she'd refuse instead of outright firing her.  $4k for voicing the main character of a popular game?  Sounds fishy.

[Taco Bell Tower]

Oh yeah, sure as Hell sounds like it.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/hellena-taylor-breaks-nda-to-explain-why-she%E2%80%99s-not-back-for-bayonetta-3-was-only-offered-a-4k-buyout-for-vo-work-after-renegotiating-from-even-less.643764/page-2#post-94907244
Planetsmasher

Wasn't really planning on buying the game new, but now I definitely won't. Voice actors get treated like such shit by this industry. If your name isn't Troy Baker, you're probably getting screwed left, right and center.

Omg stfu, you don't play videogames!

[BIONIC]

The TERF BITCH eating crackers thread has been spunoff to a new thread that is members only. Better get those @nintex.edu burners while they last!

https://www.resetera.com/threads/j-k-rowling-and-her-legacy-of-hate-the-uk-gender-critical-movement.643740/

Here’s the manifesto in the OP:

spoiler (click to show/hide)

 

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TL;DR
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It's likely of no surprise to many here at this point that J.K. Rowling is a bigot, but unless you follow it it can be hard to keep track of what she's done, who she's inspired, who they in turn support or are supported by, and what the culmination of these things has been. This thread will aim to shed a light on this, in addition to tracking the Gender Critical movement in the UK at large as it continues to grow and influence everyone from the public to politicians, lawmakers, celebrities and regulatory organisations. For now though, it's probably easiest to start with a summary of who J.K. Rowling is in 2022.

J.K. Rowling is someone who:

• Helps drive trans children toward self harm and suicide.
  
• Openly supports and champions people who call for the genocide of trans people.
  
• Vilified a charity for vulnerable children so much they had to close and restrict their services, and withdraw staff over fears for their safety.
  
• Supported and praised the anti-trans propaganda video of a self-confessed fascist, who believes we are one of the greatest evils in human history.
  
• Calls the movement for trans rights an 'authoritarian, misogynistic and homophobic movement'.
  
• Denies trans people are a minority, plays up trans women as sex offenders and pushes conspiracy theories.
  
• Drives key support for Allison Bailey and the LGB Alliance – a far-right hate group who are directly working to erode the rights of trans people.
  
• Sends love to allies of hers responsible for doxxing trans women.
  
• Helped reduce the ILGA score of the UK by being a prime motivator in increased hostility towards trans people.
  
• Acts as, and is seen as, the primary figurehead of the anti-trans movement in the UK, one that has seen sentiment toward us erode dramatically since 2020.
  
• Related transition to being a new form of gay conversion therapy, one that should be further restricted.
  
• Regularly platforms and boosts lobbying groups and individuals who are working to remove rights of trans people in the UK.
  
• Led a revolt that saw the most basic reform for Gender Recognition in the UK scrapped, despite a 70% approval rating.
  
• Openly supports people who are anti-abortion, anti-gay marriage and would prefer AIDS to charities that support trans women and children.
  
• Added to a pressure that resulted in links to support systems for vulnerable trans children being removed by the BBC.
  
• Pushed for a move that saw young trans people face further hardships in accessing trans-affirming healthcare.
  
• Has been cited by foreign politicians in their own bids to restrict trans rights, healthcare access and freedoms.
  

It is inarguable at this point that Rowling is actively and demonstrably destructive to trans lives, especially that of children and those in the UK. The wave of transphobia she ignited and continues to drive has led to legislation being scrapped, rights being removed, career paths denied, children's charities closing services, proposed bans on torture reversed and hate crimes against trans people reaching record highs. That is all to say that this is having not just a real impact, but a significant one. Life for trans people in the UK grows more uncertain as a direct consequence of the above, and it's not about to stop.

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What is 'Gender Critical'?
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Self-described Gender Critical [GC] people are, in short, transphobes who couch their bigotry in concerns over women's rights. They consistently fall back on the reasoning that trans women cannot have the rights we do, and those we aim to achieve, without it coming at the expense of the hard-fought rights of cisgender women. That by virtue of having access to women's spaces, we pose a danger them and that they are made vulnerable as a consequence. They consistently argue against the spread of 'gender ideology' or 'trans ideology' as a shorthand for trans people and the trans community, as openly calling for the end of a people directly is more frowned upon (though as we will see later, something some do not shy away from).

It is important to note at this point that trans women in the UK already have the right to women's spaces under the Equality Act of 2010, and this is not bound by medical or surgical intervention but instead the self-determination of the person indicated by going through some form of transition, even social. This is not commonly understood though, and one success of the GC movement has been in convincing the public both that this is a new threat that has yet to come to pass (often fear mongered as GRA reform or Self-ID) or that trans people ourselves are a new phenomenon. A trend; something inspired by TikTok and the soft youth. We also see the suggestion, as from Rowling herself, that transition is a new form of conversion therapy. Aiming to coerce young gay men and women into becoming straight by transitioning to another gender – this is where many of the accusations of homophobia come from.

As the movement grows, the 'concerns' become more and more thin and the bigotry more apparent. Other reasons contend that trans people:

• Present a threat to children, both as groomers and pedophiles
• Are sexual deviants seeking to sexually assault lesbian women
• Are perverts getting off on the thrill of pretending to be women
• Are duped by Big Pharma into a lifetime of needless medical needs
• Hate young people and are trying to coerce them into self mutilation
• Want access to women's bathrooms and shelters in order to rape them
• Are to women what blackface is to Black people.

It's important to note that while the prime focus of GC rhetoric revolves around trans women, the negative impact of it and the actions it spurs impacts a far greater section of society than us. It works to deny all trans and non-binary people access to gender affirming healthcare, and recognition and respect of who we are. It works to uphold gender norms and beauty standards as cisgender women who are less stereotypically feminine are scrutinised as someone that might be trans, especially butch lesbians. This is a poison that affects the broader LGBTQ+ community and cisgender women alike. It upholds the patriarchy under the guise of combatting it.

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The British Press
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It goes without saying that such arguments, as with any bigotry, rely heavily on ignorance in order to thrive, and trans people are the perfect target when we only make up ~1% of the population. The fact remains that most people do not know a trans person, and have never interacted with one. So they get their understanding from the news, and the wider media. As most will not take an active interest in either sense, their baseline assumptions are made through osmosis from headlines, how we're presented or discussed in films and other media. Which means that most people's starting point will be inherently transphobic even if not consciously so, as the media has historically sought to present us as either something to be disgusted by, or something to be mocked and for our identities to not be taken seriously.

This is far from just a historical point though. Over the past number of years the British press has made a concerted effort to vilify trans people and our lives. Boosting Gender Critical voices and all the rhetoric that comes with it, and even calling them the most significant women's movement since the Suffragettes. This attack is made clear when looking at the data, as this twitter thread shows (I recommend clicking through and reading the full thing):

[URL unfurl="true" media="twitter:1578411876488126465"]https://twitter.com/mimmymum/status/1578411876488126465?s=20&t=jPQ02kjIEzM7CObXYCEyqQ[/URL]

As we make up such a small percentage of the population, we simply lack the numbers to combat the rhetoric of the Gender Critical movement when it is being backed by the entire media apparatus of the country. Media that has been repeatedly exposed as being institutionally transphobic, right down to the BBC.

It doesn't stop at the media though...

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The UK Government
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The UK Government are transphobic. In their actions, in their rhetoric. The recent conservative party leadership campaign saw all primary candidates rely on transphobic commentary and GC talking points in order to try and curry favour from the public:
[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.varsity.co.uk/opinion/24044[/URL]
[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/5050/tory-leadership-contest-transphobia-penny-mordaunt-kemi-badenoch-rishi-sunak/[/URL]
[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.indiependent.co.uk/conservative-leadership-contest-is-fuelling-british-transphobia/[/URL]

We have also seen direct intervention from them as in the case of the Financial Conduct Authority, who had planned to push pro-trans policies toward the 58,000 businesses it regulates. The UK Government intervened by writing letters to the FCA pushing back on their proposed moves, and subsequently worked to block Freedom of Information requests after the fact to cover up their involvement and that of the EHRC.

[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.vice.com/en/article/n7zbmd/kemi-badenoch-fca[/URL]

The EHRC – that is, the Equalities and Human Rights Commission, so we all understand the full irony – are themselves institutionally transphobic:


[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.vice.com/en/article/wxdzwn/ehrc-trans-rights-leaked-emails[/URL]

Yes, this is the same Liz Truss who currently sits at the head of the UK Government as our current prime minister. Who has taken her transphobia with her into office and now seeks to try and undermine Scotland's attempts to reform the Gender Recognition Act for their trans citizens:


[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.vice.com/en/article/3adva3/liz-truss-scotland-gender-identity[/URL]

Which just happened to coincide with the backlash from the Gender Critical community on Scottish GRA weeks prior.

So it should be evident that the outlook for trans people in the UK is looking bleak at best, and this is unlikely to change anytime soon as transphobia is not a partisan concept. It is still very much an issue within the Labour party, and the Green Party. It seems the best we can hope for with a change of party is less harm, than any actual progression on our issues or quelling of the GC movement. This all sits within the context that the UK is in the middle of a healthcare crisis for trans people, where we face waiting times of 5 years just for a referral for a first appointment on hormones. As such I'd suggest there's not really free healthcare for many trans people in this country, not in any reasonable sense. Especially when stories of people being withheld access to gender-affirming care for not wearing a dress (in the case of trans women) or similar are far from uncommon. We must convince people of our identity at every turn in order to be allowed to live as who we are.

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Boosting the signal
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This issue didn't arrive overnight though. It was boosted and championed by people with enough reach and popularity to convince people that the Gender Critical movement is a valid cause. A fight where the rights of women and girls hang in the balance, threatened by a group of men looking for yet another avenue of dominance over them. This, I contend, is where JK Rowling came in. She is seen as, and treated as, the figurehead of this movement by media and followers alike. We have already covered the main points surrounding her in the opening, but I want to delve a little deeper into how she was so convincing.

J.K. Rowling
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If the Gender Critical movement was a cult, and you could contend it is, then JK Rowling is the leader. Lunches are held in her name, she is the string that ties many of the associated personalities together, she helps fund and support people affiliated directly with far-right groups, is championed by the press as the key defender of women's rights, and dedicates almost all of her online presence to manipulating people with misinformation about trans people. She has not only been championing the rhetoric, but creating it since day one. For anyone who's followed her movements in this regard over the past few years, it is clear that she has been pivotal in the pipeline of extreme opinions entering the mainstream. Where in 2019 it was once merely a discussion of how trans people could sleep with whoever will have us, now constant comparisons are made between us and sex offenders and those who would seek to prey on children. Even going as far as to deny seeing us as a minority. Where before it was standing up for a woman unafraid to say 'sex is real', now she congratulates self-described fascists who regard us as one of the greatest evils in human history, and selectively chooses people to respond to with kind messages who have previously said things like they will drive us out to the desert and bury us 9 feet deep after setting us on fire and pissing on us. Something that could be brushed off as coincidence until you recognise the pattern of it happening multiple times.

The adoration, wealth, fame and following of the Harry Potter franchise has given her unparalleled access to the hearts of many, and the presumption of good intent. At the time of writing this she has some 14 million followers on Twitter. She weaponises the franchise and the respect of the fans it affords her in order to push anti-trans disinformation and further entrench the notion that trans women are an existential threat to the rights of women. This isn't just my opinion either, it's something she's been called out for by charities and organisations tracking LGBTQ+ sentiment as being a prime motivator for transphobia in Britain. She is consciously cunning in doing so. This wasn't a blunder down the rabbit hole, it was an active and malicious progression. Starting with subtle dog whistles and progressing her dialogue slowly over time as each point is taken, adopted and boosted by the media. It is testimony to the success of this that even today with all she puts out, she is still defended as a feminist whose main interest is in the safety and security of women and girls.

As she knows she can't leap the rhetoric forward too much with any given step, she has instead relied upon boosting and supporting people who do not have such a concern. Leading those 14 million people toward people and organisations who are more extreme in their views and positions, while still being able to lean back on not quoting or pushing it directly for anyone who's not quite there on the pipeline.

So who are these people? Let's lift the lid on a few:


Allison Bailey and the LGB Alliance
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Allison Bailey is a founder of the LGB Alliance. An anti-trans organisation recognised as a hate group in its own right, while also being given charity status by the government. Someone that Rowling frequently champions and goes as far as to describe as a heroine of hers. In turn Bailey often relies upon her connection to Rowling to curry favour for her and her actions, including donations toward her to aid in her court case against the LGBTQ+ charity Stonewall. A court case that saw gender critical (read: transphobic) views become protected within the workplace. The LGB Alliance themselves are involved in lobbying the Government and organisations to block trans-positive regulation and legislation:




In addition, Allison herself has made it clear that the GC movement should welcome racists and homophobes as a necessary element in order to prevent women's rights from disappearing.


Helen Joyce
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Helen Joyce, a staple at gender critical gatherings and someone has retweeted in the past, has little use for a mask at this point. She is a cisgender straight woman who feels confident enough to write a book about trans people, discuss us with Jordan Peterson, cut the trans, intersex and racial aspects off of the Progress flag and openly state that her aim is to reduce the number of trans people, as we are a problem to the world and the fewer of us there are the better it would be for a sane world:

[URL unfurl="true" media="twitter:1532511819583062025"]https://twitter.com/joss_prior/status/1532511819583062025[/URL]


Kellie-Ray Keen (Posie Parker)
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Kellie-Ray is an unabashed fascist who holds rallies across the country that openly invites and courts the far-right. Someone that for a long time seemed too extreme for Rowling to promote, lest she give the game away, but now who openly sports the anti-trans t-shirts she designs (and promotes under Rowling's tweets) and tweets in favour of her rallies. Distorting them from the explicit anti-trans rants they are and sanitising them to her followers as pro-lesbian marches and women's rights speakers. Here is what she recently had to say on her podcast about trans people:

[URL unfurl="true" media="twitter:1568379412491522049"]https://twitter.com/lgbwiththet/status/1568379412491522049[/URL]

It isn't just hate groups, journalists and pundits though, we also have lawmakers and politicians:


Baroness Nicholson
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Baroness Nicholson is a member of the House of Lords and is able to directly influence law in the UK. She is against same-sex marriage, homosexuality in general, supports legislation seeking to restrict abortion rights, and refers to Black trans women as weird creatures. In addition to being extremely transphobic on a consistent basis, so much so that she was dropped by the Booker Prize. She also openly pushes for repealing the rights we have under the Equality Act.

Yet remains a fond friend of JK Rowling, who frequently responds and jokes with her, and boosts her tweets when they focus on persuading other MPs to roll back our rights.

In addition to her, we also have MP's like Joanne Cherry who openly advocated for torture (as described by the Human Rights Council) and Rosie Duffield, who refers to trans women as male-bodied people and pushes anti-trans sentiment within the Labour party. Most recently calling out for

I will expand this list with others over time, but if you are interested in more detail on this side of things, Shaun recently did a brilliant unwrapping of them and other far-right connections to Rowling. I highly recommend giving it a watch:

[URL unfurl="true"][/URL]

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These are the people J.K. Rowling is comfortable pointing her 14 million followers toward, both directly and indirectly. Fans of Harry Potter, both new and old, who hold her words with more weight and love her for the stories they enjoy are being fed transphobic propaganda, made to believe that trans people's existence is a threat to women's rights and the safety of children, being spurred into action and pointed toward fascist extremists and far-right hate groups.

She continues to spearhead the Gender Critical movement and has helped give credibility and a veil to transphobic rhetoric. A movement that has grown to seem to be so popular that it has been pushed by lawmakers and the UK Government, and broadcast every day in headlines, interviews, articles and podcasts by the British media. We are 1% of the population, we have no voice, no ability to effectively combat this ill. Which is why we are losing ground, and people's perceptions on us and our rights are being turned:

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We risk losing our access to healthcare, our safety and our ability to exist as ourselves, and precious few people are bothering to speak out against it. The precious few that do, are attacked by these Gender Critical fanatics and maligned as misogynists. We need more people to speak up. We are where we are because of the silence of others. People are dying because of the silence of others. It isn't enough to dismiss this as people being offended, or tolerate transphobic pipelines because they're attached to media or comedians you enjoy. At some point being an ally means doing something beyond just saying you are. It means doing what little you can to push back, even if it's a bucket of water against a tidal wave to start. Progress for minorities isn't won in a single act, or a single day. You shouldn't only take part if you think success is guaranteed or a large impact delivered, you should do it because you recognise that without the individual a movement isn't made.

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Bonus:

When this was all first breaking I literally threw away my Harry Potter books.  Didn't donate them or resell them, literally threw them in a dumpster.

The only thing Harry Potter I kept was the Bellatrix movie Death Eater mask because it was a thing I bought with my partner on our Honeymoon so it has value beyond the franchise.

People like Joanne Kathleen Rowling are the reason I'm still in the closet about my gender fluid nature for the most part.  I am out to my partner and some of my friends but my family and co-workers are not aware.

To me it messed up that she took the name JK Rowling so it wasn't obvious that she was a woman author, and now attacks those who want to express their own names without fear.

She is literally sitting in her ivory tower declaring what is real and what is not.

[Taco Bell Tower]

Why they gotta private that thread?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/hellena-taylor-breaks-nda-to-explain-why-she%E2%80%99s-not-back-for-bayonetta-3-was-only-offered-a-4k-buyout-for-vo-work-after-renegotiating-from-even-less.643764/page-16#post-94913334
https://twitter.com/WorstFEPlayer/status/1581325512571355137

oh ok so they are reading this thread hi if that's the case

[Propagandhim]

Meanwhile in Iran https://news.un.org/en/story/2022/09/1128181

The state - which is wealthier and more powerful than Rowling, so no this isn't about 'power dynamics', is sentencing LGBTQ activists to a public hanging for fighting for rights.  But ya know, JK Rowling tweeted that 'women need female spaces'.    And not a fucking peep from Resetera.

JK Rowling's biggest crime is that she's a white women, let's be real.  These people don't have actual normative, objective values when it comes to peoples' rights.   Excuse my 'complete disregard for Islam' or whatever is bannable these days on that shithole site.   

[NekoFever]

You’ve somehow managed to twist my words as an attack and accused me of basically being a transphobic bigot who is trying to tell trans women to shut up, when I have said no such thing.

He must be new there.

[BIONIC]

Why they gotta private that thread?

I wish there was a way to send this out to people not on Era.

Every time I do, the link doesn't seem to work.

It's a non-public thread because this type of thread is a honey pot for malicious actors, best bet is to copy-paste relevant sections into a google doc.

Educate yourself, shitlord 

[NekoFever]

Not sure if this was originally created in the non-public forum or just sent to the shadow realm but:

https://www.resetera.com/threads/would-you-be-down-for-a-harry-potter-tv-series-remake.643809/

[Propagandhim]

Why they gotta private that thread?

I wish there was a way to send this out to people not on Era.

Every time I do, the link doesn't seem to work.

It's a non-public thread because this type of thread is a honey pot for malicious actors, best bet is to copy-paste relevant sections into a google doc.

Educate yourself, shitlord 

Malicious actors who weaponize their use of free speech.  We're safe here, just preaching to our own echo chamber, changing no minds, and trying to clamp down on the freedom to believe and say things in free countries in the name of fighting against fascism.   

[HaughtyFrank]

Why they gotta private that thread?

I wish there was a way to send this out to people not on Era.

Every time I do, the link doesn't seem to work.

It's a non-public thread because this type of thread is a honey pot for malicious actors, best bet is to copy-paste relevant sections into a google doc.

Educate yourself, shitlord 

It's a non-public thread because this type of thread is a honey pot for malicious actors, best bet is to copy-paste relevant sections into a google doc.

That doesn't make much sense at all, does it? Thread is supposed to highlight all the receipts they have on Rowling but they don't want anyone to see them? Could it be that they actually don't want anyone to see them who could disagree? 

[Nintex]

Bayonetta story is weird.  Sounds like they wanted to get rid of her and offered her a pittance that they knew she'd refuse instead of outright firing her.  $4k for voicing the main character of a popular game?  Sounds fishy.

Sounds more like poorly managed expectations and miscommunication.

Her expectation was that she did the iconic voice and thus would get a great offer for returning to the role of Bayonetta beyond just doing a gig. After all the fans value her performance.
When she didn't get a good offer, she requested a "living wage" from Kamiya. The average monthly salary in Japan is ~$4k. So that's what they offered. Which in their book is probably not bad for 10 - 20 hours of recording.

It seems to me that she really wants to immerse hersellf into the character of Bayonetta for the fans and deliver a memorable performance.
While Nintendo and Platinum just wanted someone to grunt and moan into a microphone and voice a dozen cutscenes in one take.
They all claim Jennifer Hale isn't cheap but maybe she accepted $4k for 1 or 2 days of work.

[Propagandhim]

Yeah, to be fair, I have no idea how many hours of voicework goes into a game like Bayonetta.  I don't even know how many voice lines there are.   

[Skullfuckers Anonymous]

Haven’t seen a thread on this. Not shocked Resetera excuses white actors playing minority roles when it comes to Nintendo adaptations.

https://twitter.com/JohnLeguizamo/status/1442576322316931074

[Propagandhim]

Is John Leguazamo fucking distinguished mentally-challenged?   

[HaughtyFrank]

https://twitter.com/NTHAMISTOFWORDS/status/1443199707715616769

 

[Daffy Duck]

The TERF BITCH eating crackers thread has been spunoff to a new thread that is members only. Better get those @nintex.edu burners while they last!

https://www.resetera.com/threads/j-k-rowling-and-her-legacy-of-hate-the-uk-gender-critical-movement.643740/

Here’s the manifesto in the OP:

spoiler (click to show/hide)

 

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TL;DR
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It's likely of no surprise to many here at this point that J.K. Rowling is a bigot, but unless you follow it it can be hard to keep track of what she's done, who she's inspired, who they in turn support or are supported by, and what the culmination of these things has been. This thread will aim to shed a light on this, in addition to tracking the Gender Critical movement in the UK at large as it continues to grow and influence everyone from the public to politicians, lawmakers, celebrities and regulatory organisations. For now though, it's probably easiest to start with a summary of who J.K. Rowling is in 2022.

J.K. Rowling is someone who:

• Helps drive trans children toward self harm and suicide.
  
• Openly supports and champions people who call for the genocide of trans people.
  
• Vilified a charity for vulnerable children so much they had to close and restrict their services, and withdraw staff over fears for their safety.
  
• Supported and praised the anti-trans propaganda video of a self-confessed fascist, who believes we are one of the greatest evils in human history.
  
• Calls the movement for trans rights an 'authoritarian, misogynistic and homophobic movement'.
  
• Denies trans people are a minority, plays up trans women as sex offenders and pushes conspiracy theories.
  
• Drives key support for Allison Bailey and the LGB Alliance – a far-right hate group who are directly working to erode the rights of trans people.
  
• Sends love to allies of hers responsible for doxxing trans women.
  
• Helped reduce the ILGA score of the UK by being a prime motivator in increased hostility towards trans people.
  
• Acts as, and is seen as, the primary figurehead of the anti-trans movement in the UK, one that has seen sentiment toward us erode dramatically since 2020.
  
• Related transition to being a new form of gay conversion therapy, one that should be further restricted.
  
• Regularly platforms and boosts lobbying groups and individuals who are working to remove rights of trans people in the UK.
  
• Led a revolt that saw the most basic reform for Gender Recognition in the UK scrapped, despite a 70% approval rating.
  
• Openly supports people who are anti-abortion, anti-gay marriage and would prefer AIDS to charities that support trans women and children.
  
• Added to a pressure that resulted in links to support systems for vulnerable trans children being removed by the BBC.
  
• Pushed for a move that saw young trans people face further hardships in accessing trans-affirming healthcare.
  
• Has been cited by foreign politicians in their own bids to restrict trans rights, healthcare access and freedoms.
  

It is inarguable at this point that Rowling is actively and demonstrably destructive to trans lives, especially that of children and those in the UK. The wave of transphobia she ignited and continues to drive has led to legislation being scrapped, rights being removed, career paths denied, children's charities closing services, proposed bans on torture reversed and hate crimes against trans people reaching record highs. That is all to say that this is having not just a real impact, but a significant one. Life for trans people in the UK grows more uncertain as a direct consequence of the above, and it's not about to stop.

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What is 'Gender Critical'?
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Self-described Gender Critical [GC] people are, in short, transphobes who couch their bigotry in concerns over women's rights. They consistently fall back on the reasoning that trans women cannot have the rights we do, and those we aim to achieve, without it coming at the expense of the hard-fought rights of cisgender women. That by virtue of having access to women's spaces, we pose a danger them and that they are made vulnerable as a consequence. They consistently argue against the spread of 'gender ideology' or 'trans ideology' as a shorthand for trans people and the trans community, as openly calling for the end of a people directly is more frowned upon (though as we will see later, something some do not shy away from).

It is important to note at this point that trans women in the UK already have the right to women's spaces under the Equality Act of 2010, and this is not bound by medical or surgical intervention but instead the self-determination of the person indicated by going through some form of transition, even social. This is not commonly understood though, and one success of the GC movement has been in convincing the public both that this is a new threat that has yet to come to pass (often fear mongered as GRA reform or Self-ID) or that trans people ourselves are a new phenomenon. A trend; something inspired by TikTok and the soft youth. We also see the suggestion, as from Rowling herself, that transition is a new form of conversion therapy. Aiming to coerce young gay men and women into becoming straight by transitioning to another gender – this is where many of the accusations of homophobia come from.

As the movement grows, the 'concerns' become more and more thin and the bigotry more apparent. Other reasons contend that trans people:

• Present a threat to children, both as groomers and pedophiles
• Are sexual deviants seeking to sexually assault lesbian women
• Are perverts getting off on the thrill of pretending to be women
• Are duped by Big Pharma into a lifetime of needless medical needs
• Hate young people and are trying to coerce them into self mutilation
• Want access to women's bathrooms and shelters in order to rape them
• Are to women what blackface is to Black people.

It's important to note that while the prime focus of GC rhetoric revolves around trans women, the negative impact of it and the actions it spurs impacts a far greater section of society than us. It works to deny all trans and non-binary people access to gender affirming healthcare, and recognition and respect of who we are. It works to uphold gender norms and beauty standards as cisgender women who are less stereotypically feminine are scrutinised as someone that might be trans, especially butch lesbians. This is a poison that affects the broader LGBTQ+ community and cisgender women alike. It upholds the patriarchy under the guise of combatting it.

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The British Press
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It goes without saying that such arguments, as with any bigotry, rely heavily on ignorance in order to thrive, and trans people are the perfect target when we only make up ~1% of the population. The fact remains that most people do not know a trans person, and have never interacted with one. So they get their understanding from the news, and the wider media. As most will not take an active interest in either sense, their baseline assumptions are made through osmosis from headlines, how we're presented or discussed in films and other media. Which means that most people's starting point will be inherently transphobic even if not consciously so, as the media has historically sought to present us as either something to be disgusted by, or something to be mocked and for our identities to not be taken seriously.

This is far from just a historical point though. Over the past number of years the British press has made a concerted effort to vilify trans people and our lives. Boosting Gender Critical voices and all the rhetoric that comes with it, and even calling them the most significant women's movement since the Suffragettes. This attack is made clear when looking at the data, as this twitter thread shows (I recommend clicking through and reading the full thing):

[URL unfurl="true" media="twitter:1578411876488126465"]https://twitter.com/mimmymum/status/1578411876488126465?s=20&t=jPQ02kjIEzM7CObXYCEyqQ[/URL]

As we make up such a small percentage of the population, we simply lack the numbers to combat the rhetoric of the Gender Critical movement when it is being backed by the entire media apparatus of the country. Media that has been repeatedly exposed as being institutionally transphobic, right down to the BBC.

It doesn't stop at the media though...

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The UK Government
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The UK Government are transphobic. In their actions, in their rhetoric. The recent conservative party leadership campaign saw all primary candidates rely on transphobic commentary and GC talking points in order to try and curry favour from the public:
[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.varsity.co.uk/opinion/24044[/URL]
[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/5050/tory-leadership-contest-transphobia-penny-mordaunt-kemi-badenoch-rishi-sunak/[/URL]
[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.indiependent.co.uk/conservative-leadership-contest-is-fuelling-british-transphobia/[/URL]

We have also seen direct intervention from them as in the case of the Financial Conduct Authority, who had planned to push pro-trans policies toward the 58,000 businesses it regulates. The UK Government intervened by writing letters to the FCA pushing back on their proposed moves, and subsequently worked to block Freedom of Information requests after the fact to cover up their involvement and that of the EHRC.

[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.vice.com/en/article/n7zbmd/kemi-badenoch-fca[/URL]

The EHRC – that is, the Equalities and Human Rights Commission, so we all understand the full irony – are themselves institutionally transphobic:


[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.vice.com/en/article/wxdzwn/ehrc-trans-rights-leaked-emails[/URL]

Yes, this is the same Liz Truss who currently sits at the head of the UK Government as our current prime minister. Who has taken her transphobia with her into office and now seeks to try and undermine Scotland's attempts to reform the Gender Recognition Act for their trans citizens:


[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.vice.com/en/article/3adva3/liz-truss-scotland-gender-identity[/URL]

Which just happened to coincide with the backlash from the Gender Critical community on Scottish GRA weeks prior.

So it should be evident that the outlook for trans people in the UK is looking bleak at best, and this is unlikely to change anytime soon as transphobia is not a partisan concept. It is still very much an issue within the Labour party, and the Green Party. It seems the best we can hope for with a change of party is less harm, than any actual progression on our issues or quelling of the GC movement. This all sits within the context that the UK is in the middle of a healthcare crisis for trans people, where we face waiting times of 5 years just for a referral for a first appointment on hormones. As such I'd suggest there's not really free healthcare for many trans people in this country, not in any reasonable sense. Especially when stories of people being withheld access to gender-affirming care for not wearing a dress (in the case of trans women) or similar are far from uncommon. We must convince people of our identity at every turn in order to be allowed to live as who we are.

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Boosting the signal
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This issue didn't arrive overnight though. It was boosted and championed by people with enough reach and popularity to convince people that the Gender Critical movement is a valid cause. A fight where the rights of women and girls hang in the balance, threatened by a group of men looking for yet another avenue of dominance over them. This, I contend, is where JK Rowling came in. She is seen as, and treated as, the figurehead of this movement by media and followers alike. We have already covered the main points surrounding her in the opening, but I want to delve a little deeper into how she was so convincing.

J.K. Rowling
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If the Gender Critical movement was a cult, and you could contend it is, then JK Rowling is the leader. Lunches are held in her name, she is the string that ties many of the associated personalities together, she helps fund and support people affiliated directly with far-right groups, is championed by the press as the key defender of women's rights, and dedicates almost all of her online presence to manipulating people with misinformation about trans people. She has not only been championing the rhetoric, but creating it since day one. For anyone who's followed her movements in this regard over the past few years, it is clear that she has been pivotal in the pipeline of extreme opinions entering the mainstream. Where in 2019 it was once merely a discussion of how trans people could sleep with whoever will have us, now constant comparisons are made between us and sex offenders and those who would seek to prey on children. Even going as far as to deny seeing us as a minority. Where before it was standing up for a woman unafraid to say 'sex is real', now she congratulates self-described fascists who regard us as one of the greatest evils in human history, and selectively chooses people to respond to with kind messages who have previously said things like they will drive us out to the desert and bury us 9 feet deep after setting us on fire and pissing on us. Something that could be brushed off as coincidence until you recognise the pattern of it happening multiple times.

The adoration, wealth, fame and following of the Harry Potter franchise has given her unparalleled access to the hearts of many, and the presumption of good intent. At the time of writing this she has some 14 million followers on Twitter. She weaponises the franchise and the respect of the fans it affords her in order to push anti-trans disinformation and further entrench the notion that trans women are an existential threat to the rights of women. This isn't just my opinion either, it's something she's been called out for by charities and organisations tracking LGBTQ+ sentiment as being a prime motivator for transphobia in Britain. She is consciously cunning in doing so. This wasn't a blunder down the rabbit hole, it was an active and malicious progression. Starting with subtle dog whistles and progressing her dialogue slowly over time as each point is taken, adopted and boosted by the media. It is testimony to the success of this that even today with all she puts out, she is still defended as a feminist whose main interest is in the safety and security of women and girls.

As she knows she can't leap the rhetoric forward too much with any given step, she has instead relied upon boosting and supporting people who do not have such a concern. Leading those 14 million people toward people and organisations who are more extreme in their views and positions, while still being able to lean back on not quoting or pushing it directly for anyone who's not quite there on the pipeline.

So who are these people? Let's lift the lid on a few:


Allison Bailey and the LGB Alliance
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Allison Bailey is a founder of the LGB Alliance. An anti-trans organisation recognised as a hate group in its own right, while also being given charity status by the government. Someone that Rowling frequently champions and goes as far as to describe as a heroine of hers. In turn Bailey often relies upon her connection to Rowling to curry favour for her and her actions, including donations toward her to aid in her court case against the LGBTQ+ charity Stonewall. A court case that saw gender critical (read: transphobic) views become protected within the workplace. The LGB Alliance themselves are involved in lobbying the Government and organisations to block trans-positive regulation and legislation:




In addition, Allison herself has made it clear that the GC movement should welcome racists and homophobes as a necessary element in order to prevent women's rights from disappearing.


Helen Joyce
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Helen Joyce, a staple at gender critical gatherings and someone has retweeted in the past, has little use for a mask at this point. She is a cisgender straight woman who feels confident enough to write a book about trans people, discuss us with Jordan Peterson, cut the trans, intersex and racial aspects off of the Progress flag and openly state that her aim is to reduce the number of trans people, as we are a problem to the world and the fewer of us there are the better it would be for a sane world:

[URL unfurl="true" media="twitter:1532511819583062025"]https://twitter.com/joss_prior/status/1532511819583062025[/URL]


Kellie-Ray Keen (Posie Parker)
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Kellie-Ray is an unabashed fascist who holds rallies across the country that openly invites and courts the far-right. Someone that for a long time seemed too extreme for Rowling to promote, lest she give the game away, but now who openly sports the anti-trans t-shirts she designs (and promotes under Rowling's tweets) and tweets in favour of her rallies. Distorting them from the explicit anti-trans rants they are and sanitising them to her followers as pro-lesbian marches and women's rights speakers. Here is what she recently had to say on her podcast about trans people:

[URL unfurl="true" media="twitter:1568379412491522049"]https://twitter.com/lgbwiththet/status/1568379412491522049[/URL]

It isn't just hate groups, journalists and pundits though, we also have lawmakers and politicians:


Baroness Nicholson
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Baroness Nicholson is a member of the House of Lords and is able to directly influence law in the UK. She is against same-sex marriage, homosexuality in general, supports legislation seeking to restrict abortion rights, and refers to Black trans women as weird creatures. In addition to being extremely transphobic on a consistent basis, so much so that she was dropped by the Booker Prize. She also openly pushes for repealing the rights we have under the Equality Act.

Yet remains a fond friend of JK Rowling, who frequently responds and jokes with her, and boosts her tweets when they focus on persuading other MPs to roll back our rights.

In addition to her, we also have MP's like Joanne Cherry who openly advocated for torture (as described by the Human Rights Council) and Rosie Duffield, who refers to trans women as male-bodied people and pushes anti-trans sentiment within the Labour party. Most recently calling out for

I will expand this list with others over time, but if you are interested in more detail on this side of things, Shaun recently did a brilliant unwrapping of them and other far-right connections to Rowling. I highly recommend giving it a watch:

[URL unfurl="true"][/URL]

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These are the people J.K. Rowling is comfortable pointing her 14 million followers toward, both directly and indirectly. Fans of Harry Potter, both new and old, who hold her words with more weight and love her for the stories they enjoy are being fed transphobic propaganda, made to believe that trans people's existence is a threat to women's rights and the safety of children, being spurred into action and pointed toward fascist extremists and far-right hate groups.

She continues to spearhead the Gender Critical movement and has helped give credibility and a veil to transphobic rhetoric. A movement that has grown to seem to be so popular that it has been pushed by lawmakers and the UK Government, and broadcast every day in headlines, interviews, articles and podcasts by the British media. We are 1% of the population, we have no voice, no ability to effectively combat this ill. Which is why we are losing ground, and people's perceptions on us and our rights are being turned:

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We risk losing our access to healthcare, our safety and our ability to exist as ourselves, and precious few people are bothering to speak out against it. The precious few that do, are attacked by these Gender Critical fanatics and maligned as misogynists. We need more people to speak up. We are where we are because of the silence of others. People are dying because of the silence of others. It isn't enough to dismiss this as people being offended, or tolerate transphobic pipelines because they're attached to media or comedians you enjoy. At some point being an ally means doing something beyond just saying you are. It means doing what little you can to push back, even if it's a bucket of water against a tidal wave to start. Progress for minorities isn't won in a single act, or a single day. You shouldn't only take part if you think success is guaranteed or a large impact delivered, you should do it because you recognise that without the individual a movement isn't made.

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Bonus:

When this was all first breaking I literally threw away my Harry Potter books.  Didn't donate them or resell them, literally threw them in a dumpster.

The only thing Harry Potter I kept was the Bellatrix movie Death Eater mask because it was a thing I bought with my partner on our Honeymoon so it has value beyond the franchise.

People like Joanne Kathleen Rowling are the reason I'm still in the closet about my gender fluid nature for the most part.  I am out to my partner and some of my friends but my family and co-workers are not aware.

To me it messed up that she took the name JK Rowling so it wasn't obvious that she was a woman author, and now attacks those who want to express their own names without fear.

She is literally sitting in her ivory tower declaring what is real and what is not.

It’s not a private thread, I can read it just fine…

[BIONIC]

It was when I posted it. Must’ve changed it to spread the wealth of knowledge to the public 

[Daffy Duck]

Yep got to boost the news following the death of the comrade in arms Robbie Coltrane

[ShutUp]

Why they gotta private that thread?

I wish there was a way to send this out to people not on Era.

Every time I do, the link doesn't seem to work.

It's a non-public thread because this type of thread is a honey pot for malicious actors, best bet is to copy-paste relevant sections into a google doc.

Educate yourself, shitlord 

“Malicious actors”

Gotta stay on alert or the Putin agents might sneak in! 

[Averon]

Funny how in that Bayonetta VA thread that the notion of scrolling through someone's Twitter TL to find something to use to deflect/cancel them over is beyond the pail when that has been ERA's standard operating procedure for years.

[Daffy Duck]

Funny how in that Bayonetta VA thread that the notion of scrolling through someone's Twitter TL to find something to use to deflect/cancel them over is beyond the pail when that has been ERA's standard operating procedure for years.

Zeo will be more than happy to oblige. He loves a good old witch hunt

[clothedmacuser]

Funny how in that Bayonetta VA thread that the notion of scrolling through someone's Twitter TL to find something to use to deflect/cancel them over is beyond the pail when that has been ERA's standard operating procedure for years.

Are mess and zeo now banned?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/hellena-taylor-breaks-nda-to-explain-why-she%E2%80%99s-not-back-for-bayonetta-3-was-only-offered-a-4k-buyout-for-vo-work-after-renegotiating-from-even-less.643764/post-94917885

That she is a Trump follower and is citing weird bible verses makes her look like an unlikeable person too.

Is there actual proof of this besides really bad twitter detective work? Because that ain't the way to go with this.

Oh, she's one of those people that likes Trump tweets but is also a good person.  Era is known for defending those people


https://www.resetera.com/threads/hellena-taylor-breaks-nda-to-explain-why-she%E2%80%99s-not-back-for-bayonetta-3-was-only-offered-a-4k-buyout-for-vo-work-after-renegotiating-from-even-less.643764/post-94916817

It's the "oh she follows trump", "oh she's religious", "maybe she only had 4 lines!" type of thinking. Like trying to find any angle possible to doubt the laborer and not the corporation.

and she's religious!  A female Chris Pratt!

[Propagandhim]

Lol they found out she follows Trump.  To the dumpster with you, bitch.   

[Daffy Duck]

Lol they found out she follows Trump.  To the dumpster with you, bitch.   

She had a good run

[Yulwei]

 

that woman's story has smelled funny from the beginning, but everyone's in too deep now. they HAVE to keep supporting her even if she's a hardcore MAGAt christian. they've been harassing Kamiya all day long 

it wouldn't do good to admit fault and realize that you ganged up on and harassed a person based on extremely little info. 

[paprikastaude]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/hellena-taylor-breaks-nda-to-explain-why-she’s-not-back-for-bayonetta-3-was-only-offered-a-4k-buyout-for-vo-work-after-renegotiating-from-even-less.643764/page-26#post-94918164

People reading ANYTHING into Hellena's twitter follows or bible quoting need to take a break from the Internet.
Stop.

[Uncle]

let's actually look at this voice actor pay thing

from what I see googling around, records on how much voice actors are paid are extremely hard to find, almost like a closely-guarded secret, game voice acting is in a weird place where there's a union but also they're all somewhat freelancers and on their own

but it seems like in general, a game voice actor (as opposed to narration, audiobook, commercials etc.) can expect $850 for a 4 hour recording session

so offering her $4000 is asking for 4.7 four-hour recording sessions (18.8 hours of recording)

is that long enough to get all the dialogue for a video game of the type that bayo is? I want to say...probably yes?

if you strung together all of bayonetta's voice lines in bayo 2 back-to-back, I'm not sure how much time it would take up. searching for "bayo 2 longplay" gets you 6 hour videos, searching for "bayo 2 movie all cutscenes" gets you 2.5 hour videos. outside of cutscenes, there's plenty of random lines and grunts and yells that go into a game as well. some of it they'll think will make it into the game but might end up left on the cutting room floor, too.

if we're generous, we could just assume bayonetta has 3 hours of finished dialogue coming out of her mouth. imagine that every line has an average of four takes in case she flubs it or wants to try it a slightly different way, so that's 12 hours in the booth. with the 18.8 hours figured above, that leaves 6.8 hours for the director giving directions, or breaks, or random wait times and adjustments.

does that seem like super out of the question? how much should she have gotten instead? did jennifer hale say "hell yeah I'll do it for 4k, that's close to my standard rate, cool?"

[HaughtyFrank]

that woman's story has smelled funny from the beginning, but everyone's in too deep now. they HAVE to keep supporting her even if she's a hardcore MAGAt christian. they've been harassing Kamiya all day long 

it wouldn't do good to admit fault and realize that you ganged up on and harassed a person based on extremely little info. 

It's true that things could easily turn upside down but a company lowballing a voice actor isn't really unbelievable

[mormapope]

This whole thing boils down to super neo lib identity politic nerd fucks collectively shitting on Bayonetta and they were given the perfect opportunity to do so. Instead of criticizing character designs and tone, they have labor ammunition. These people barely existed in 2010. They have now multiplied tenfold.

Can't wait for more info to come out, and people will respond with "Kamiya is still an asshole though!!!!!!"

[Taco Bell Tower]

Not sure if this was originally created in the non-public forum or just sent to the shadow realm but:

https://www.resetera.com/threads/would-you-be-down-for-a-harry-potter-tv-series-remake.643809/

It's in the non public section.  Logged on the riotous account to check.

Also locked:

I don't think there is any need to have this conversation.

[Averon]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/sexualized-video-games-are-not-causing-harm-to-male-or-female-players-according-to-new-research.606036/

Remember, all it took were a few Tweets, unsurprisingly hunted down and posted by Kyuuji, from just one of the authors to completely throw out this research and label it right-wing chud garbage for ERA.

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/hellena-taylor-breaks-nda-to-explain-why-she%E2%80%99s-not-back-for-bayonetta-3-was-only-offered-a-4k-buyout-for-vo-work-after-renegotiating-from-even-less.643764/page-16#post-94913370

Yep. Stalking someone’s socials is gross behavior, and only serves to distract from the conversation at hand in a way that makes it seem like whatever happens to the person is okay because [reason]. Whether she’s left- or right-leaning is entirely irrelevant to this issue unless proven otherwise by Platinum or other involved parties.

People didn’t learn shit from Kiwifarms.

[Boredfrom]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/hellena-taylor-breaks-nda-to-explain-why-she%E2%80%99s-not-back-for-bayonetta-3-was-only-offered-a-4k-buyout-for-vo-work-after-renegotiating-from-even-less.643764/page-16#post-94913370

Yep. Stalking someone’s socials is gross behavior, and only serves to distract from the conversation at hand in a way that makes it seem like whatever happens to the person is okay because [reason]. Whether she’s left- or right-leaning is entirely irrelevant to this issue unless proven otherwise by Platinum or other involved parties.

People didn’t learn shit from Kiwifarms.

Ayyy fuck off with this bullshit. 

I thought RE would get smarter as the woke squad has pulled this shit since gamergate  days to defend scumbags (but is okay if is a “problematic” person that currently bat for)

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/hellena-taylor-breaks-nda-to-explain-why-she%E2%80%99s-not-back-for-bayonetta-3-was-only-offered-a-4k-buyout-for-vo-work-after-renegotiating-from-even-less.643764/page-15#post-94913160

User Banned (1 month): Sinophobia

I think that it's more dangerous when you have people throwing someone under some social media follows while at the same time defending a company for executives for which you do not nearly have the same amount information because they don't have a social media account.

Like maybe it's okay for here to be out she probably has shitty political views... Like what the fuck is this shit?

That is entirely besides the problem, this is a labor issue if you want to fix something you will treat them differently based on the political spectrum that has nothing to do with your job?

Now wait a second why is it okay for her to follow the Trumps on Twitt--

Seriosuly some of you should move to China. You should be A-ok with there Social credit system.

Now you dun it

[benjipwns]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/gotham-knights-on-consoles-will-run-at-30-fps-with-no-performance-quality-mode-option.643665/page-10#post-94902918

Now time to see if this will become a thing now that crossgen is ending or if I will be right and get to make many of you eat Crow.

[benjipwns]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/deadline-robbie-coltrane-dies-%E2%80%98harry-potter%E2%80%99-%E2%80%98james-bond%E2%80%99-%E2%80%98cracker%E2%80%99-star-was-72.643500/page-4#post-94900575

Just gonna boost this to make sure it's on every page. Fuck TERFs. I don't magically start respecting someone just because they died if I didn't respect them while they were alive.

Go get some psychological help, you clearly need it. The only thing your posts are doing is proving him correct.

RIP to Coltrane, he seemed like a genuinely nice person who was liked by everyone that worked with him. I first saw him in Cracker but Hagrid was his best role and the one he’ll be remembered for

User banned (permanent): Hostility and transphobic rhetoric over a series of posts

Amazing that they consider arguing rationally and for a more complete understanding against hatred to be "hostility and transphobic rhetoric" worth an immediate permaban.

Bonus:

People like Joanne Kathleen Rowling are the reason I'm still in the closet about my gender fluid nature for the most part.  I am out to my partner and some of my friends but my family and co-workers are not aware.

To me it messed up that she took the name JK Rowling so it wasn't obvious that she was a woman author, and now attacks those who want to express their own names without fear.

She is literally sitting in her ivory tower declaring what is real and what is not.

"because of course trans rights are human rights and of course trans lives matter" - Joanne
"I just want trans women to be safe" - Joanne

spoiler (click to show/hide)

Nobody, especially not your co-workers, gives a fuck that think you're "genderfluid" and really think that should mean something to them, jesus christ, get over yourself.

[close]

Why they gotta private that thread?

It's a non-public thread because this type of thread is a honey pot for malicious actors, best bet is to copy-paste relevant sections into a google doc.

B-Dubs, when you finally snap and decide it's time to clean up your own mess, here's a good place to start.

[clothedmacuser]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/hellena-taylor-breaks-nda-to-explain-why-she%E2%80%99s-not-back-for-bayonetta-3-was-only-offered-a-4k-buyout-for-vo-work-after-renegotiating-from-even-less.643764/post-94932015


 

I hope that gets quoted in future threads