Other Forums Containment Thread

[Raist]

Cerium was involved in most every crisis that ResetEra dealt with in meaningful ways trying to find solutions forward. You can scream into the void all you want, but it's just that: screaming into the void. Anyone who has ever worked with Cerium will tell you otherwise.

Where’s the proof? He was involved in “most every crisis ResetErs dealt with”? Where? Where is the proof? What do you exactly mean? What he giving advice in Discord or something?

Source: literally me

Oh OK then

[Rman]

Cerium was involved in most every crisis that ResetEra dealt with in meaningful ways trying to find solutions forward. You can scream into the void all you want, but it's just that: screaming into the void. Anyone who has ever worked with Cerium will tell you otherwise.

Where’s the proof? He was involved in “most every crisis ResetErs dealt with”? Where? Where is the proof? What do you exactly mean? What he giving advice in Discord or something?

Source: literally me

Oh OK then

links?

[HaughtyFrank]

How do I cancel Era clear? I thought I was helping the site stay afloat, not padding an individual's pockets.

 

[Propagandhim]

How do I cancel Era clear? I thought I was helping the site stay afloat, not padding an individual's pockets.

 

 

[bork]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/resetera-ownership-update.499677/page-47#post-75229794

For the record, that was never part of the original plan, but a lot of things change in four years. ResetEra has become almost unrecognizable from what it was then. I do not begrudge Cerium from wanting to separate himself from the constant work and wanting to move on with his life.

I would genuinely love to read a book about y'all's original aspirations and efforts -- the trials and tribulations that went into the launch and success of ResetEra. I don't doubt that I would deeply empathize and find it difficult to disagree with every step of the process that's led to this point. But at this specific moment, I can't help but wish we could have avoided this.

 

[benjipwns]

Epic grift.

Can someone perma my account or whatever? Not interested in getting my user data sold. Thanks

You have 96 posts and no avatar.

Whose alt are you?

[Propagandhim]

More posts than Cerium

[Cauliflower Of Love]

More posts than Cerium

[Lonewulfeus]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/resetera-ownership-update.499677/page-47#post-75229794

For the record, that was never part of the original plan, but a lot of things change in four years. ResetEra has become almost unrecognizable from what it was then. I do not begrudge Cerium from wanting to separate himself from the constant work and wanting to move on with his life.

I would genuinely love to read a book about y'all's original aspirations and efforts -- the trials and tribulations that went into the launch and success of ResetEra. I don't doubt that I would deeply empathize and find it difficult to disagree with every step of the process that's led to this point. But at this specific moment, I can't help but wish we could have avoided this.

 

A book on how to grift, I got just the thing fam.

[BikeJesus]

These people are fucking idiots. Asking the members to donate to all kinds of charities, but keeping all the ad revenue for himself.

Even 8chan had monthly transparency reports about how much was made, and where the money was going.

[benjipwns]

Sorta, except the site also sold Era Clear passes under the (now known to be) deceptive "keep the lights on" pitch. That affects the behavior of not just staff but posters as well. It would be like finding out that your local NPR execs were buying Teslas with the teledrive donations or whatever.

NOTE: Do not look up what NPR executives make.

[maninthemirror]

How does a racist white era liberal become a minority?

say you are a woman

[Raist]

Cerium was involved in most every crisis that ResetEra dealt with in meaningful ways trying to find solutions forward. You can scream into the void all you want, but it's just that: screaming into the void. Anyone who has ever worked with Cerium will tell you otherwise.

Where’s the proof? He was involved in “most every crisis ResetErs dealt with”? Where? Where is the proof? What do you exactly mean? What he giving advice in Discord or something?

Source: literally me

Oh OK then

links?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/resetera-ownership-update.499677/page-46#post-75228558

https://www.resetera.com/threads/resetera-ownership-update.499677/page-47#post-75228900

https://www.resetera.com/threads/resetera-ownership-update.499677/page-47#post-75229035

[benjipwns]

I was under the assumption at that time that is truly was a community effort, and he would be compensated for his time and investment in the infrastructure, but once that was taken care of, it would be the community's board, not his. I really thought at some point, when it was up and running and made enough revenue to keep the lights on, it would be "owned" by those community members.

i love this guy

[Cauliflower Of Love]

These people, even when it's explained to their face, don't understand things.

[benjipwns]

lol
This is not a chill gig. Them being hands off still leaves us with the task of running the day to day on the site.

"running the day to day"

[Propagandhim]

I was under the assumption at that time that is truly was a community effort, and he would be compensated for his time and investment in the infrastructure, but once that was taken care of, it would be the community's board, not his. I really thought at some point, when it was up and running and made enough revenue to keep the lights on, it would be "owned" by those community members.

i love this guy

 

So many people born yesterday.  Loving this.

[benjipwns]

I don't know Cerium well. But I do remember him posting some heinous shit back on the previous forum while he was active. I am not surprised that this is the result.

[bork]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/resetera-ownership-update.499677/page-48#post-75230787

I don't think it would be that interesting. We never really had time to even figure out what our aspirations and efforts were before launching. All we knew is we wanted to make a new home for the community. There was not time to figure out anything else. It was a lot of flying by the seat of our pants, making it up as we go, and long, long discussions about how we wanted to do things. Fun times, but also not fun times. The only thing that hasn't ever really been discussed much is that there was a lot of infighting / arguing in those early times within the staff, and Cerium really had to walk a fine line to keep the peace.

You all knew first hand the amount of money Evilore was making and had been offered in buyouts. In addition to the number of users migrating over. The idea that discussions on finances and ownership were an afterthought is frankly insulting to the intelligence of everyone here. If you were all that naieve and altruistically idealed, you would have demanded it be set up as a nonprofit donating to marginalized charities like AJ proposed, lest it be raized to the ground again.

[Yulwei]

I don't know Cerium well. But I do remember him posting some heinous shit back on the previous forum while he was active. I am not surprised that this is the result.

I'm surprised it took this long for the accusations to start coming out 

[Propagandhim]

He's long gone, buddy.  He's on his mental health vision quest.  The cancelling should have started earlier.  Go back to complaining about how Sakurai is sending out coded racist messages to you idiots that can't see real, explicit ones. 

[cosmicblizzard]

He actually did it.  Cerium had more foresight than Evilore and Lowtax to get the fuck out before the vultures came for them.

This could also genuinely be a big issue for the site.  And no, I don't mean due to the aversion of corporations from a bunch of performative hypocrites posting on a hobby site reliant on corporations.  I mean:

https://www.resetera.com/threads/resetera-ownership-update.499677/page-9#post-75198219

 

Now that you're owned by an EU registered business, time for some light reading: https://gdpr-info.eu/

You're not complying to most of this btw.

It just takes one person asking for their data to be deleted to cause a shitstorm.  We're talking ALL data here, which means deleting/editing every post that quoted said poster.  They very likely do not have a mechanism in place to do this automatically, so they'd have to do it manually and finish it in 30 days or potentially face heavy fines.  Now imagine someone with a post count in the 5 digits asking for this.  Imagine multiple doing so.

This also counts retroactively for long-banned members, and it isn't limited to people living in Europe.  People with a grudge against the place could either get a payout or make the staff's lives even more miserable, so it's win/win for them.

[M]

The mods are so spineless. Just fucking quit for the drama at least. Boring seeing these spineless idiots desperate to keep their mod position under the new company. Want more drama. Quit. ALL OF YOU JUST FUCKING QUIT. Do it for the memes. It will work. It will literally work.

[Raist]

The new Swede overlords will have a fun time making that dumpster GDPR-compliant. Especially when the place has admins that enjoy doxxing

Also,

https://imgur.com/a/u5UIWFi

[bork]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/resetera-ownership-update.499677/page-49#post-75231057

As I said, it was obvious from the GAF days, did people really volunteer under the assumption that financials magically went to zero after the GAF-ERA transition? Did people miss the trips, the partying, the cars, the apartments, from Evil, for an entire decade? He did not hide that he was flush, it was a major part of his character.

The last time it was a "garage project" was when Evilore was still 18, after the first handoff from IGN.

I was on GAF ~2012 till the end and I missed all of that. I think the biggest indication I ever saw of his wealth was when we has spotted with a prime seat in a Dave Chappelle Netflix special.

 

[Boredfrom]

I felt this sounds like a cult were the leader just fuck ups with all the money while the true believers are denied the sweet release of death and are forced to deal with the fallout.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

The new Swede overlords will have a fun time making that dumpster GDPR-compliant. Especially when the place has admins that enjoy doxxing

Also,

https://imgur.com/a/u5UIWFi

I'd be surprised if they don't just dump the current software, pull some fresh data over and just nuke the rest.

They probably don't want the eekiness of community on their servers anyways.

[M]

He actually did it.  Cerium had more foresight than Evilore and Lowtax to get the fuck out before the vultures came for them.

This could also genuinely be a big issue for the site.  And no, I don't mean due to the aversion of corporations from a bunch of performative hypocrites posting on a hobby site reliant on corporations.  I mean:

https://www.resetera.com/threads/resetera-ownership-update.499677/page-9#post-75198219

 

Now that you're owned by an EU registered business, time for some light reading: https://gdpr-info.eu/

You're not complying to most of this btw.

It just takes one person asking for their data to be deleted to cause a shitstorm.  We're talking ALL data here, which means deleting/editing every post that quoted said poster.  They very likely do not have a mechanism in place to do this automatically, so they'd have to do it manually and finish it in 30 days or potentially face heavy fines.  Now imagine someone with a post count in the 5 digits asking for this.  Imagine multiple doing so.

This also counts retroactively for long-banned members, and it isn't limited to people living in Europe.  People with a grudge against the place could either get a payout or make the staff's lives even more miserable, so it's win/win for them.

This is not true. The data just has to be anonymised. It does not apply to data that does not identify the individual. But there are certain aspects of the law that can be used to make yourself a nuisance. I have used GDPR to silence people on social media before using special category data. Political views fit into that.

[bork]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/resetera-ownership-update.499677/page-49#post-75231210

As stated before in the thread, Ceri was still around constantly helping handle any sort of incident on the site. It’s not like he just took a vacation to go kickboxing

[Propagandhim]

He won't stop 

[benjipwns]

What software is Era built on?

XenForo, and a pretty basic install at that, it's why they have a "tech team" of a single person

[Skullfuckers Anonymous]

Cerium was working 150 hour weeks alongside the ad team. Shame on you all for thinking he doesn’t deserve the 4.5 million.

[benjipwns]

Lotus, incelsiorlef and Slayven should form a union and go on strike until the revenues are distributed by post count.

[Propagandhim]

Why would you do the cruel thing of tasking Slayven with a division problem.

[Boredfrom]

Cerium was involved in most every crisis that ResetEra dealt with in meaningful ways trying to find solutions forward. You can scream into the void all you want, but it's just that: screaming into the void. Anyone who has ever worked with Cerium will tell you otherwise.

Where’s the proof? He was involved in “most every crisis ResetErs dealt with”? Where? Where is the proof? What do you exactly mean? What he giving advice in Discord or something?

Source: literally me

Oh OK then

Cerium could be Jesus Christ in private and nobody will give a fuck because the guy rarely posted there and the word of the mods mean shit.

Nepehente cries about abuse but then says: “why so serious?, while Slayven admits he would have been a hobo if didn’t have the shadow cabal acting as his therapists. How the fuck anyone can take your word?

[benjipwns]

i find it odd that a company that is focused on esports and runs mostly tools/guide sites, each with a generic forum of their own (all of whom seem very dead) is interested in a community/website like resetera. I don‘t understand what the „best match“ here is

so a community-driven project to build a new forum/community was sold out from under its feet to a random company, as soon as they are unhappy with the forum, they can nuke it or sell it off again

At least you owe the community the up front truth and have the balls just to say you had the opportunity to sell the site for 4.5 million instead of this announcement

[benjipwns]

Well he certainly isn't donating to any political causes I support if his stances on "the other forum" are to be believed regarding Bernie Sanders. Also very funny that he accused Bernie of "running a ponzi scheme" because he got small donations only to be the sole beneficiary running off with 4.5 million with of ad revenue and Era Clear money.

[cosmicblizzard]

He actually did it.  Cerium had more foresight than Evilore and Lowtax to get the fuck out before the vultures came for them.

This could also genuinely be a big issue for the site.  And no, I don't mean due to the aversion of corporations from a bunch of performative hypocrites posting on a hobby site reliant on corporations.  I mean:

https://www.resetera.com/threads/resetera-ownership-update.499677/page-9#post-75198219

 

Now that you're owned by an EU registered business, time for some light reading: https://gdpr-info.eu/

You're not complying to most of this btw.

It just takes one person asking for their data to be deleted to cause a shitstorm.  We're talking ALL data here, which means deleting/editing every post that quoted said poster.  They very likely do not have a mechanism in place to do this automatically, so they'd have to do it manually and finish it in 30 days or potentially face heavy fines.  Now imagine someone with a post count in the 5 digits asking for this.  Imagine multiple doing so.

This also counts retroactively for long-banned members, and it isn't limited to people living in Europe.  People with a grudge against the place could either get a payout or make the staff's lives even more miserable, so it's win/win for them.

This is not true. The data just has to be anonymised. It does not apply to data that does not identify the individual. But there are certain aspects of the law that can be used to make yourself a nuisance. I have used GDPR to silence people on social media before using special category data. Political views fit into that.

Does it not count if the registered user is linked to their real name/social media with real name?  There's a sizable amount of users that applies to.

[benjipwns]

I'm not an expert on the GDPR in the slightest, but one problem for ResetERA.com brought to you by M.O.B.A. Network AB will be the e-mails they require, that is considered personal data in the EU.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

where is excel?

[Boredfrom]

Cerium was working in private m, you guys. He just never bothered to post like he used to do in the old site or trying to be a community voice like when he bitched about Crossplay for months and people took him seriously.

[Raist]

I don't know Cerium well. But I do remember him posting some heinous shit back on the previous forum while he was active. I am not surprised that this is the result.

Posting heinous shit on GAF? That's it?

Oh, sweet summer child.

http://www.parentadvocates.org/nicecontent/dsp_printable.cfm?articleID=7983

[benjipwns]

Cerium was working in private m, you guys. He just never bothered to post like he used to do in the old site or trying to be a community voice like when he bitched about Crossplay for months and people took him seriously.

My familiarity with Cerium was more his bitching about Nintendo not being social justice enough and the fact that he constantly spammed in support of Hillary while not even knowing how elections worked.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

I'm gonna keep pushing this crypto under the table exchange conspiracy theory until it becomes true for the reason all these known users and mods are choosing to die on this hill.

[Boredfrom]

I don't know Cerium well. But I do remember him posting some heinous shit back on the previous forum while he was active. I am not surprised that this is the result.

Posting heinous shit on GAF? That's it?

Oh, sweet summer child.

http://www.parentadvocates.org/nicecontent/dsp_printable.cfm?articleID=7983

Cerium was a hero:

https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/former-high-school-librarian-sentenced-15-years-prison-kidnapping-conspiracy

[Nuitangg]

Thread still not locked yet? 

[benjipwns]

I'm gonna keep pushing this crypto under the table exchange conspiracy theory until it becomes true for the reason all these known users and mods are choosing to die on this hill.

Hook it up with my theory that M.O.B.A. Network is big into NFTs.

[maninthemirror]

ok now that this is officially owned by swedes. I will use my banned username *censored* to nuke era into orbit. I will ask EU to have them delete all of my posts from the website. every trace, and every mention. I want them to squeeze in pain for banning me for saying atrocities against Palestinians amounts to same treatment ww2 victims suffered


now tell me. where do I request this purge of my data?

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Thread still not locked yet? 

The mods are being hit with the reality that they shouldn't give a shit anymore.

Or, none of the mods have permissions to close a thread from super user cerium.

[Lonewulfeus]

Maybe they finally learned that containment threads are better than letting the shit spill over into the rest of the threads?

[benjipwns]

One funny thing about all them talking about a "big corporation" taking over, is that it seems M.O.B.A. Network AB is at best, AT BEST, just a handful of people. Their reporting documents say they have less than ten employees total. (Or more specifically say they fit into the category for a company with less then ten employees.)

[marrec]

The irony is that even though Evilore turned out to be a creep, he did at least turn down a 10 million offer for the good of the community at the time.

These motherfuckers have to be some of the stupidest people on the planet.

[Propagandhim]

The irony is that even though Evilore turned out to be a creep, he did at least turn down a 10 million offer for the good of the community at the time.

These motherfuckers have to be some of the stupidest people on the planet.

They're like little kids.  I have never seen so much naivety in one place, ever.  This has been hilarious. 


"So...so...Cerium is coming back and is going to listen to my thoughts that I journaled about how he can spend his newfound capital...for the community...right...right?"

[benjipwns]

Evilore told us all at the time that he turned it down because he thought he could get a better offer. That was the entire reason we knew about it.

[marrec]

One funny thing about all them talking about a "big corporation" taking over, is that it seems M.O.B.A. Network AB is at best, AT BEST, just a handful of people. Their reporting documents say they have less than ten employees total. (Or more specifically say they fit into the category for a company with less then ten employees.)

How has MOBA Network made money up until this point?

[Joe Molotov]

One funny thing about all them talking about a "big corporation" taking over, is that it seems M.O.B.A. Network AB is at best, AT BEST, just a handful of people. Their reporting documents say they have less than ten employees total. (Or more specifically say they fit into the category for a company with less then ten employees.)

Those 10 employees probably get paid tho.

[Propagandhim]

  Oh shut the fuck up. They said they were introducing new revenue generating policies.  They'll make major overhauls to get numbers up and make their 4.5 milly investment back quickly.   They'll change anything at the drop of a hat.   

[nobody of note]

oh my god:

I’m positive you’d see heavy pushback from staff if they were going to try to change policy.

Has he never been in a buyout before? Has he never witnessed the old guard being confronted with the harsh reality that their new corporate overlords aren't going to give a terribly large amount of fucks if staff doesn't like the new direction?

As has been made abundantly clear, staff is just a bunch of volunteers with no actual authority over general direction. The absolute  first time MOBA's bottom line conflicts with Era staff's personal beliefs, who does he think is winning.

[Boredfrom]

One funny thing about all them talking about a "big corporation" taking over, is that it seems M.O.B.A. Network AB is at best, AT BEST, just a handful of people. Their reporting documents say they have less than ten employees total. (Or more specifically say they fit into the category for a company with less then ten employees.)

How has MOBA Network made money up until this point?

Probably by selling your data.

[marrec]

One funny thing about all them talking about a "big corporation" taking over, is that it seems M.O.B.A. Network AB is at best, AT BEST, just a handful of people. Their reporting documents say they have less than ten employees total. (Or more specifically say they fit into the category for a company with less then ten employees.)

How has MOBA Network made money up until this point?

Probably by selling your data.

I hope they aren't charging much my data is garbage.