People predicting the demise of baseball seem to forget that there will always be new old people.
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Quote from: bork on October 15, 2021, 01:16:35 PM It seems like instead of a mass exodus like shower-gate, the forum just keeps on splintering into smaller forums.If Cerium was as smart as they say he is, he'd have his hands in every one of those
It seems like instead of a mass exodus like shower-gate, the forum just keeps on splintering into smaller forums.
Quote from: PlanetSmasherIf MOBAnet actively fucks around with the site, I will complain, and loudly. Everyone on Era knows how loud I am when I want to be.
If MOBAnet actively fucks around with the site, I will complain, and loudly. Everyone on Era knows how loud I am when I want to be.
Speaking only for myself, I have enough actual shit going on in my life right now. I don't need to spend my time catastrophizing about what a corporation might do.
i wonder if the new regime will let ksweeley post full articles from the baltimore sun again
Just saying. If you guys want to start hanging out in more transparent forums that are actually owned by the users, made from people who left ResetEra following many different disputes:Mod edit: we're not here for other people to advertise their personally owned websites
Frankly, one of the issues with the reports against the trolls in the Media Create thread was the fact that the bulk of the reports consisted of one word:TrollWith that much information, there's very little to work on. Additionally, the context of a history of trolling from a single post is extremely unclear, especially when the above information is all that's given. It wasn't until AFTER Chris's ban that people brought up the troll's off-site behavior. We can only work with the information we're given. We're a handful of people on a site of 50+ thousand. If you want us to do our jobs effectively, we need your help to give us actual information into what you're reporting.I can guarantee you without a doubt that had we had that information from the get-go, that troll would have been banned a lot sooner. In fact, we're actually looking into ways we can improve the report system to help y'all provide us the information that we need to make more accurate judgements.
Losers- ResetEra mods
This will be my last post on Era.This site was built and maintained off the backs of so many people, so all financial gains belonging to one man is gross as fuck. I had no idea Cerium was making in the range of 700k a year off this, and to then sell it for 4.5 million is slimy.Era really should have been a nonprofit with the proceeds going to worthy causes.
Sorry to see you go and hope you will change your mind. We are losing some great members.
QuoteYou're assuming Era wasn't on an organic growth path already.
You're assuming Era wasn't on an organic growth path already.
I for 1 am glad corporate ownership is taking over. I hate how people who work in the industry are put on a pedestal here no matter how shitty their opinion is it's like Era's role is to pander to the industry and not the fans and it was all for a big payday.
i don't know what any of that is supposed to mean, but i agree.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/resetera-ownership-update.499677/page-74#post-75286809Quote from: AliceAmber (Administrator)Frankly, one of the issues with the reports against the trolls in the Media Create thread was the fact that the bulk of the reports consisted of one word:TrollWith that much information, there's very little to work on. Additionally, the context of a history of trolling from a single post is extremely unclear, especially when the above information is all that's given. It wasn't until AFTER Chris's ban that people brought up the troll's off-site behavior. We can only work with the information we're given. We're a handful of people on a site of 50+ thousand. If you want us to do our jobs effectively, we need your help to give us actual information into what you're reporting.I can guarantee you without a doubt that had we had that information from the get-go, that troll would have been banned a lot sooner. In fact, we're actually looking into ways we can improve the report system to help y'all provide us the information that we need to make more accurate judgements.And yet you have no problem doing the same thing to user accounts. Here's what I see when I try to log on:"You have been banned for the following reason: Troll account.."No reason was ever given.
Wow, what a complete shit show this place really was. I remember when the GAF exodus happened and this place was supposed to be basically by the community for the community. Many people have contributed to this place over the years, some a lot more than others so to see the reality that one guy owned it all for profit is pretty fucking sickening.We've allowed collectively this place to become an ever so slightly better place than GAF all whilst happily wearing the mask of a progressive community that is welcome to all. Collectively we've chased away communities from here, collectively we've chased away some amazing members and collectively we've once again allowed certain mods to treat themselves like minor celebrities.To think this place was started to be better, to raise standards...it's all a bit Emperors new fucking clothes. $4.5m off the back off everyone else's work, yikes. Pay your mods.
- Shostium: Discords can't be sold
i think bork is breakingslayven sort this
Every single living wage thread...Every single worker's rights thread...Every single evil wealthy person thread...All of the posts were literally feeding the wealth of one individual who paid his employees less than sweatshop wages. I'm not sure I'm prepared to handle this level of irony.
In other newshttps://twitter.com/verge/status/1449082929808920587
The employee was terminated on suspicion of leaking metrics to the press related to the Dave Chappelle special. Those metrics — about how much Netflix paid for The Closer and how many people it reached — subsequently ended up in a report on Bloomberg. While the employee had shared the metrics internally, they spoke out against the leaks to colleagues, worried they might hurt the walkout movement.The leaking of internal data is highly unusual at Netflix. While the company prides itself on transparency, employees are told that the culture can only thrive when Netflix data remains internal.
Who the fuck is afraid of those larping twerps over at KiwiFarms?
It's a smart plan.1) Take a social stand against some policy or action by your employer2) Do some firable offense3) Get fired4) Use your firing to further embolden activism since you can make it look like you were fired for being an activist
https://www.resetera.com/threads/resetera-ownership-update.499677/page-69#post-75265638Quote from: rrostYou guys are awfully trustful of corporations these days. Didn't recognise if I was in the same forum."Now if you'll excuse me, after making this post on the ResetEra, LLC™ forum, I'm off to play Marvel's® Avengers™, from Square Enix®, on my Sony® Playstation 5™, while watching Disney® Plus™ on my Apple TV™®.
You guys are awfully trustful of corporations these days. Didn't recognise if I was in the same forum.
Quote from: marrec on October 15, 2021, 03:23:22 PMIt's a smart plan.1) Take a social stand against some policy or action by your employer2) Do some firable offense3) Get fired4) Use your firing to further embolden activism since you can make it look like you were fired for being an activistIt's a smart plan.1) See that your employees are taking a social stand against some policy or action 2) Make up a reason to fire them 3) Fire them 4) Use your vast army of PR people to spread word about the infraction you made up
Quote from: PlanetSmasherSpecific mods already get enough harassment as it is. Why would you want them to get even more? Mod decisions aren't done by one person, so having a "this user was banned by X" message wouldn't increase transparency, it would just put further targets on mods' backs for being the person unlucky enough to have their name on the ban-line when someone gets banned that a Discord doesn't agree with.To quote some prominent members:Quote from: The AdderIt's not harassment, it's her fucking job.Quote from: Mercury FredWhy are you calling being held accountable "harassment"?Quote from: RustyNailsWhy do you call this harassment?
Specific mods already get enough harassment as it is. Why would you want them to get even more? Mod decisions aren't done by one person, so having a "this user was banned by X" message wouldn't increase transparency, it would just put further targets on mods' backs for being the person unlucky enough to have their name on the ban-line when someone gets banned that a Discord doesn't agree with.
It's not harassment, it's her fucking job.
Why are you calling being held accountable "harassment"?
Why do you call this harassment?
How do they know the person discussing the metrics internally (which is allowed it seems) was the one who leaked it to Bloomberg? Could have been someone they discussed it with or anyone who has access to that info. Seems like a hit to me
Quote from: Lonewulfeus on October 15, 2021, 03:25:53 PMHow do they know the person discussing the metrics internally (which is allowed it seems) was the one who leaked it to Bloomberg? Could have been someone they discussed it with or anyone who has access to that info. Seems like a hit to me I'm sure not everyone at Netflix has access to the metrics data. If you share data internally to people that haven't been given official access, and then those people leak the data outside, there's still a good chance you will face disciplinary actions.
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Quote from: james on October 15, 2021, 03:24:43 PMQuote from: marrec on October 15, 2021, 03:23:22 PMIt's a smart plan.1) Take a social stand against some policy or action by your employer2) Do some firable offense3) Get fired4) Use your firing to further embolden activism since you can make it look like you were fired for being an activistIt's a smart plan.1) See that your employees are taking a social stand against some policy or action 2) Make up a reason to fire them 3) Fire them 4) Use your vast army of PR people to spread word about the infraction you made upIf I were in PR I would simply advise Netflix NOT fire Trans Employees until all this blows over.
Quote from: marrec on October 15, 2021, 03:28:36 PMQuote from: james on October 15, 2021, 03:24:43 PMQuote from: marrec on October 15, 2021, 03:23:22 PMIt's a smart plan.1) Take a social stand against some policy or action by your employer2) Do some firable offense3) Get fired4) Use your firing to further embolden activism since you can make it look like you were fired for being an activistIt's a smart plan.1) See that your employees are taking a social stand against some policy or action 2) Make up a reason to fire them 3) Fire them 4) Use your vast army of PR people to spread word about the infraction you made upIf I were in PR I would simply advise Netflix NOT fire Trans Employees until all this blows over.they seem to be planning to continuously fire trans employees until it blows over
Quote from: bork on October 15, 2021, 08:36:18 AMhttps://www.resetera.com/threads/resetera-ownership-update.499677/page-69#post-75265638Quote from: rrostYou guys are awfully trustful of corporations these days. Didn't recognise if I was in the same forum."Now if you'll excuse me, after making this post on the ResetEra, LLC™ forum, I'm off to play Marvel's® Avengers™, from Square Enix®, on my Sony® Playstation 5™, while watching Disney® Plus™ on my Apple TV™®.Exactly. Makes all these “fuck corporations” posts so damn hollow. They are literally ranting about this shit on a video game forum. Where do they think the money comes from to even make these games or Marvel movies they love so much?
Quote from: james on October 15, 2021, 03:24:43 PMQuote from: marrec on October 15, 2021, 03:23:22 PMIt's a smart plan.1) Take a social stand against some policy or action by your employer2) Do some firable offense3) Get fired4) Use your firing to further embolden activism since you can make it look like you were fired for being an activistIt's a smart plan.1) See that your employees are taking a social stand against some policy or action 2) Make up a reason to fire them 3) Fire them 4) Use your vast army of PR people to spread word about the infraction you made upIf I were in PR I would simply advise Netflix NOT fire Trans Employees until all this blows over. Like, this isn't exactly a hard decision from a press standpoint. Let the person do the walkout, encourage your employees to participate because you love Trans people, make Ted stfu about Dave, and 6 months from now quietly let Trans Walkout Organizer go for procedural bullshit.
Quote from: Nintex on October 15, 2021, 03:06:35 PMIn other newshttps://twitter.com/verge/status/1449082929808920587QuoteThe employee was terminated on suspicion of leaking metrics to the press related to the Dave Chappelle special. Those metrics — about how much Netflix paid for The Closer and how many people it reached — subsequently ended up in a report on Bloomberg. While the employee had shared the metrics internally, they spoke out against the leaks to colleagues, worried they might hurt the walkout movement.The leaking of internal data is highly unusual at Netflix. While the company prides itself on transparency, employees are told that the culture can only thrive when Netflix data remains internal. That will 100% get you fired from Netflix.
I would unsubscribe over this if I was actually paying for it currently. Makes me glad I'm family sharing now honestly and not personally giving this transphobic company a dime.
So effectively:Guy takes advantage of exodus from other site, ropes people into coming here with the help of othersThose others get no stake in ownershipGets people to work for him for free (for years)Charges people to help "keep the lights on" for a "community" forumMakes up to $500k/yr after costsSells for $4.5 million to ownership group that allows transphobia on their other sitesSounds like the ultimate grift, I have to congratulate him for pulling it off. Especially convincing everyone that it was a community forum that constantly needed help staying afloat. I can say for certain that I won't be as active here anymore after this. I have other sites I frequent that scratch the same itch (dayonepatch.com) for current events and gaming. And reddit will help with other general topics.
Quote So effectively:Guy takes advantage of exodus from other site, ropes people into coming here with the help of othersThose others get no stake in ownershipGets people to work for him for free (for years)Charges people to help "keep the lights on" for a "community" forumMakes up to $500k/yr after costsSells for $4.5 million to ownership group that allows transphobia on their other sitesSounds like the ultimate grift, I have to congratulate him for pulling it off. Especially convincing everyone that it was a community forum that constantly needed help staying afloat. I can say for certain that I won't be as active here anymore after this. I have other sites I frequent that scratch the same itch (dayonepatch.com) for current events and gaming. And reddit will help with other general topics.Why are they acting like they were all somehow conned by Cerium? Nobody forced them to join Ree and whine post for 4 years?
These people are so desperate to be victims that they're just pulling shit out of their asses.
Reddit is basically 500x resetera, with some subs that are larger than resetera as a whole. Of course there will be bad crap on it. But each sub is run by its own group, so there are fantastic ones out there. And my concern isn't just about transphobia, it's about everyone here being taken advantage of without their knowledge so a single person could run off with millions of dollars. Cerium should go down in internet history as a POS for what he did.
Quote from: Snoopycat_ on October 15, 2021, 04:00:29 PMQuote So effectively:Guy takes advantage of exodus from other site, ropes people into coming here with the help of othersThose others get no stake in ownershipGets people to work for him for free (for years)Charges people to help "keep the lights on" for a "community" forumMakes up to $500k/yr after costsSells for $4.5 million to ownership group that allows transphobia on their other sitesSounds like the ultimate grift, I have to congratulate him for pulling it off. Especially convincing everyone that it was a community forum that constantly needed help staying afloat. I can say for certain that I won't be as active here anymore after this. I have other sites I frequent that scratch the same itch (dayonepatch.com) for current events and gaming. And reddit will help with other general topics.Why are they acting like they were all somehow conned by Cerium? Nobody forced them to join Ree and whine post for 4 years?Also, there were others that had ownership stakes, but they gave them up early on, as they had industry connections and didn't want to be associated with the dumpster fire Ree quickly became. The mods are volunteers and are free to "quit" at any time - no one's forcing them to be there. And (at least to my knowledge) there was never any e-begging to pay the site's bills.These people are so desperate to be victims that they're just pulling shit out of their asses.
Quote from: RaijintoIt would have been nice if the mod who resigned practiced some of that empathy as well instead of calling users of a site they moderate "c*nts," "manbabies" and expressing a desire to ban at least one of them. And you also forgot to mention the only reason why the Discord servers were brought up was because one very popular user was perma banned for an off-site comment that was much more tame than what was being posted in these Discords by the staff showcasing a clear double-standard compared to staff members who were not reprimanded.A lot of people who made MC what it was here were lovely and it's doing them a diservice to act like it was all a targetted harasment campaign from the begining. They just wanted to discuss Japanese games sales which they had been doing for years before the moderation involvement. Oh boy here we go again huh. The people I called people cunts and manbabies were specifically the assholes who were constantly harassing and insulting cvxfreak and demanding that he resign etc. (this was made clear in the comment I was replying to, by the way). This means I "don't have empathy" now? LOL, spare me the pearl-clutching. No, I have empathy towards people like cvxfreak who didn't deserve any of this insane amount of vitriol, but yeah I guess I don't have much empathy towards toxic manchildren who harass my friends over petty nonsense like a 1-day ban. Funny that.
It would have been nice if the mod who resigned practiced some of that empathy as well instead of calling users of a site they moderate "c*nts," "manbabies" and expressing a desire to ban at least one of them. And you also forgot to mention the only reason why the Discord servers were brought up was because one very popular user was perma banned for an off-site comment that was much more tame than what was being posted in these Discords by the staff showcasing a clear double-standard compared to staff members who were not reprimanded.A lot of people who made MC what it was here were lovely and it's doing them a diservice to act like it was all a targetted harasment campaign from the begining. They just wanted to discuss Japanese games sales which they had been doing for years before the moderation involvement.
Quote from: ThisIsBlitz21CVX freak and Morrigan looked down on the community with absolute contempt. Nobody else drove away that community than the shitty moderation.Looking at the screenshots, you're telling me they were great mods when they were specifically targeting people in the thread (namely Chris) and then rallying people in their discord to defend them? It's simply laughable. See this is more false narratives. I never was involved with that community. I never stepped foot in those threads. I was literally Idontthinkaboutyouatall.gif about them. All I did was, in a semi-private Discord, say not-so-nice-things about people who were harassing and insulting cvxfreak over and over when that stuff going down. I also didn't "rally" anyone, I just reassured people who wanted to go in there to support cvxfreak that doing so wasn't bannable (because, well, it wasn't), as they were afraid of doing that and getting dogpiled.As for mods "driving them away", that's also laughable, as they had already decided to leave by then (over the 1-day ban), long before things escalated with the screenshots.In other words: you don't know what you're talking about, you're just parroting the same tired persecution complex nonsense that constantly circulates unchallenged in these Discord echo chambers where people whip each other into a frenzy over any slight, whether real or imaginary. Don't worry though, you're far from the first (nor the last) to do that. It is what it is.
CVX freak and Morrigan looked down on the community with absolute contempt. Nobody else drove away that community than the shitty moderation.Looking at the screenshots, you're telling me they were great mods when they were specifically targeting people in the thread (namely Chris) and then rallying people in their discord to defend them? It's simply laughable.
Quote from: MorriganLike, how are you so utterly lacking in self-awareness? Some of your first posts in this very thread were peddling insane conspiracy theories about staff and their policy decisions, implying the reason they chose to not ban ActiBlizz threads was because of the upcoming buyout (completely false, obviously). You also said the site didn't take "any kind of stance" which is also flat out untrue. All of those things are incredibly insulting to staff members, particularly the mods who worked hard on handling those topics. But you are so lacking in self-awareness that you cannot even see how your own toxic shitposts are routinely part of the problem yourself. Not the first time this happens either. Like who the shit are you? have I ever interacted with you? how many posts have I made on my mission to cover this forum in "toxic shitposts" only in here and the Cyberpunk thread to my mind which cover issues I feel strongly about for some fucking reason.you do not fucking know me you clown and you do not know the stresses and fears I have had being exposed to the shitheels from KiwiFarms for daring to stand up during the cyberpunk debacle, and how much I have stood up for ERA among the splinter groups that formed after that period.Yes, I am angry, yes I am scared, yes I am upset, and yes my words may be hyperbolic, but when I gets mods replying to DM's during the Blizzard shit saying essentially "we plan to do nothing" and we not 6 months later are sold to an owner with ties to Blizzard forums which allow fucking bigotry and transphobia and homophobia the YOU CAN BE DAMN SURE I WILL SHOUT ABOUT IT.
Like, how are you so utterly lacking in self-awareness? Some of your first posts in this very thread were peddling insane conspiracy theories about staff and their policy decisions, implying the reason they chose to not ban ActiBlizz threads was because of the upcoming buyout (completely false, obviously). You also said the site didn't take "any kind of stance" which is also flat out untrue. All of those things are incredibly insulting to staff members, particularly the mods who worked hard on handling those topics. But you are so lacking in self-awareness that you cannot even see how your own toxic shitposts are routinely part of the problem yourself. Not the first time this happens either.
