Other Forums Containment Thread

[team filler]

the most ridiculous thing about the "trans genocide!" is there's not much point to genociding .0001% of the population they make up. people for the most part don't care about things which do not directly effect them. so they don't care one way or the other about trans people because they never meet any, or have any bad experiences dealing with them.

such a small percentage of the population that you can go your entire life without ever having a single bad experience with any of them. then on top of their numbers being so miniscule, they mostly off themselves or get killed because they dated someone who didn't want anyone else finding out they were into trans women.

you don't kill off an ant colony that numbers in the tens and sticks to a small area in your backyard where you never notice them. you exterminate the colony that numbers in the thousands and infests your kitchen.

top of the page joanne is always right

[joeboy101]

And the funniest part is being trans is the least interesting or noteworthy part of me, though it's essential to my being. So I have no time for being reduced to someone else's debate point, especially if they are not trans or non binary.

So you are a nobody.

She must be if she is BRINGING IT UP ALL THE TIME! If all your passion, time, and identity is dedicated to her being trans, and she herself says its the least interesting thing about herself... well... she said it.

[Snoopycat_]

Humble brag thread is still going wild

Comrade, we are all the same, worker solidarity? TBH. Eat shit.

I'll give you a humble brag, I'm teaching your kids for 50k. We aren't comrades, in fact, I will willfully vote for a candidate that raises your taxes.

The mental gets called out -

You're the same guy that was disgruntled in the Amazon WFH thread, aren't you? Like every thread we have where people are more fortunate than you in some way, you’re on a crusade. Might want to take it down a notch. These threads are clearly triggering for you, so maybe avoid them?

An admin is forced to step in -

The OP shared his good fortune. If the title was something that was going to agitate you and result in you being hostile instead of offering productive feedback/discourse, why not just be a god damn adult and click that 'ignore' button and hide the thread.

There's a serious problem with people trying to bring down other people just because they, themselves, are in a hard spot. We should be better than that. There's nothing wrong in celebrating in someone else's success.

OP, congrats on the huge bonus. You've obviously earned it, as it's 50% of your base. Investing half of it in a long term investment may be some of the best long term advice. The rest? Go do something fun for yourself, partner, and/or friends/family.

[Uncle]

I make about 50k Canadian a year fixing bicycles

BikeJesus

oh my god

[NekoFever]

The OP shared his good fortune. If the title was something that was going to agitate you and result in you being hostile instead of offering productive feedback/discourse, why not just be a god damn adult and click that 'ignore' button and hide the thread.

There's a serious problem with people trying to bring down other people just because they, themselves, are in a hard spot. We should be better than that. There's nothing wrong in celebrating in someone else's success.

OP, congrats on the huge bonus. You've obviously earned it, as it's 50% of your base. Investing half of it in a long term investment may be some of the best long term advice. The rest? Go do something fun for yourself, partner, and/or friends/family.

What is this? A sane response from Era staff? ColdSun's Hogwarts Legacy achievements about to get discovered.

If only they'd expand this policy...

If the title was something that was going to agitate you and result in you being hostile instead of offering productive feedback/discourse, why not just be a god damn adult and click that 'ignore' button and hide the thread.

...to everything.

[Tuckers Law]

I make about 50k Canadian a year fixing bicycles

BikeJesus

oh my god

Man doesn’t fix bicycles; he cures them and then saves their souls.

[Snoopycat_]

Just ignore threads you don't like? OOF. Big Yikes. Kyuuji and the gorilla arms crew won't like that one

[railGUN]

REE: Respect someones pronouns you bigot...

Woman says she wants to be called a woman, not a "person with a uterus"

REE: 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/at-the-height-of-the-attack-on-trans-folk-cenk-and-ana-of-the-young-turks-decide-to-dabble-in-some-old-news-transphobia.700291/

[maninthemirror]

just when you think they couldn't get anymore fucking distinguished mentally-challenged today.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/world-athletics-bans-transgender-women-who-went-through-male-puberty-from-competing-in-female-world-ranking-events.700516/

If they were really guided by the science, they wouldn’t be doing it. Disgusting anti trans people.

muscles mass, internal organ size, skeletal structure and the overall longterm effects of testosterone do not exist!

https://theconversation.com/how-world-sport-got-into-a-mess-over-trans-athletes-and-how-it-can-get-out-of-it-202188

One new development has been a sort of quietening on the scientific front. Although you still get the odd piece trying to make the claim that testosterone suppression can remove male advantage, most of the serious people in the debate have given up on this claim. A systematic review of studies showed that, even if hormone therapy reduces levels to those seen in women, strength, lean body mass and muscle area remained higher for at least three years. And we always knew that the skeletal advantages remained.

The fascinating thing about RE is that they claim to be so firmly on the side of science while never even taking a look at that science.

Like what are the chances that posting this study would get you banned?

Results Twenty-four studies were identified and reviewed. Transwomen experienced significant decreases in all parameters measured, with different time courses noted. After 4 months of hormone therapy, transwomen have Hgb/HCT levels equivalent to those of cisgender women. After 12 months of hormone therapy, significant decreases in measures of strength, LBM and muscle area are observed. The effects of longer duration therapy (36 months) in eliciting further decrements in these measures are unclear due to paucity of data. Notwithstanding, values for strength, LBM and muscle area in transwomen remain above those of cisgender women, even after 36 months of hormone therapy.

Conclusion In transwomen, hormone therapy rapidly reduces Hgb to levels seen in cisgender women. In contrast, hormone therapy decreases strength, LBM and muscle area, yet values remain above that observed in cisgender women, even after 36 months. These findings suggest that strength may be well preserved in transwomen during the first 3 years of hormone therapy.

https://bjsm.bmj.com/content/55/15/865.abstract

Oddly similar to when they say Rowling contributes in trans genocide but refuse to prove how and run away when asked to define what a genocide is

[Propagandhim]

Oddly similar to when they say Rowling contributes in trans genocide but refuse to prove how and run away when asked to define what a genocide is

Can I interest you in a 4 hour video?

[Averon]

I learned a new word today, serophobia.

Although I might argue that it is pretty reasonable to be afraid of HIV. Even though I am 100% sure that not wanting to get infected makes you a bigot these days. 

I'm pretty sure ERA, back before GAF's implosion, helped bully a porn star into suicide by calling her a bigot because she didn't want to do a scene with a gay porn star because HIV was running rampant in the gay porn community at the time.

[Uncle]

Oddly similar to when they say Rowling contributes in trans genocide but refuse to prove how and run away when asked to define what a genocide is

(or what a woman is)

[Tuckers Law]

I learned a new word today, serophobia.

Although I might argue that it is pretty reasonable to be afraid of HIV. Even though I am 100% sure that not wanting to get infected makes you a bigot these days. 

I'm pretty sure ERA, back before GAF's implosion, helped bully a porn star into suicide by calling her a bigot because she didn't want to do a scene with a gay porn star because HIV was running rampant in the gay porn community at the time.

August Ames.

When these tumblrtransrina fascists actually deign to "educate" others on why they're mad, it always feels like this is how they want it done:

[NekoFever]

Oddly similar to when they say Rowling contributes in trans genocide but refuse to prove how and run away when asked to define what a genocide is

(Image removed from quote.)

Can I interest you in a 4 hour video?

Haven't listened yet but she's in the latest episode of the Witch Trials of JK Rowling podcast

[PogiJones]

REE: Respect someones pronouns you bigot...

Woman says she wants to be called a woman, not a "person with a uterus"

REE: 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/at-the-height-of-the-attack-on-trans-folk-cenk-and-ana-of-the-young-turks-decide-to-dabble-in-some-old-news-transphobia.700291/

By RE's logic, I guess they should be totally fine if instead of calling certain legislation anti-trans, everyone calls it anti-biological-males-wearing-dresses since it doesn't just affect trans people but also drag queens. I'm sure they'll be totally fine with that framing since it's more inclusive.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/got-a-45k-bonus-today-at-work-what-should-i-do-with-it.700192/page-17#post-103108972

User Banned (1 week): Hostility towards another member over multiple posts

Yeah, I typically get a 15% bonus every year so long as my performance is satisfactory and the company is doing okay financially. We also get occasional smaller bonuses (like 1-2% of salary if my team meets certain milestones).

90k salary
13k salary bonus yearly
1k bonuses on the side
45k bonus we did really good this time

Stans, help me out, lets keep it rolling, help me feel like this isn't a brag thread.

Where are you haters?

Comrade, we are all the same, worker solidarity? TBH. Eat shit.

[Taco Bell Tower]

I make about 50k Canadian a year fixing bicycles

BikeJesus

oh my god

[Propagandhim]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/got-a-45k-bonus-today-at-work-what-should-i-do-with-it.700192/page-17#post-103108972

User Banned (1 week): Hostility towards another member over multiple posts

Yeah, I typically get a 15% bonus every year so long as my performance is satisfactory and the company is doing okay financially. We also get occasional smaller bonuses (like 1-2% of salary if my team meets certain milestones).

90k salary
13k salary bonus yearly
1k bonuses on the side
45k bonus we did really good this time

Stans, help me out, lets keep it rolling, help me feel like this isn't a brag thread.

Where are you haters?

Comrade, we are all the same, worker solidarity? TBH. Eat shit.

   This dude counting OP's money

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/anime-that-you-feel-is-overly-hated.698917/#post-102897961

User Banned (3 Months): Sexist trolling and dismissing concerns of misogyny; history of advocating for suspect content and then refusing to respond when questioned

Boruto
Naruto Shippuden
Naruto

Shield Hero
Redo of Healer
Jobless Reincarnation

Guilty Crown
Sword Art Online
Valvrave
A/Z

Gundam Seed
Gundam Seed Destiny
Gundam Age
Gundam Build Divers

[Propagandhim]

I hope ChatGPT takes your fuckin' job, comrade.  Workers rights my ass!  You're doing better than me!

[HaughtyFrank]

I learned a new word today, serophobia.

Although I might argue that it is pretty reasonable to be afraid of HIV. Even though I am 100% sure that not wanting to get infected makes you a bigot these days. 

I'm pretty sure ERA, back before GAF's implosion, helped bully a porn star into suicide by calling her a bigot because she didn't want to do a scene with a gay porn star because HIV was running rampant in the gay porn community at the time.

I don't think they were part of the bullying itself but we're happy to make excuses for the bullying after she had killed herself.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/man-accused-of-streaming-castrations-other-extreme-body-modifications-for-eunuch-maker-website-faces-court.700540/

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/eunuch-maker-marius-gustavson-accused-london-court-streaming-castration-online/

In 2012, Japanese artist Mao Sugiyama, 23, had his genitals removed and then cooked and served them to paying guests at a banquet.

[Propagandhim]

Everyone in that thread making jokes about genitals being removed...kinda sus tbh.

[Skullfuckers Anonymous]

REE: Respect someones pronouns you bigot...

Woman says she wants to be called a woman, not a "person with a uterus"

REE: 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/at-the-height-of-the-attack-on-trans-folk-cenk-and-ana-of-the-young-turks-decide-to-dabble-in-some-old-news-transphobia.700291/

I love that it’s excel posting. She always throws a fit if someone uses the word female instead of woman.

[HaughtyFrank]

REE: Respect someones pronouns you bigot...

Woman says she wants to be called a woman, not a "person with a uterus"

REE: 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/at-the-height-of-the-attack-on-trans-folk-cenk-and-ana-of-the-young-turks-decide-to-dabble-in-some-old-news-transphobia.700291/

I love that it’s excel posting. She always throws a fit if someone uses the word female instead of woman.

I have this suspicion that excel and some of the other trans members don't dislike "females" because it reminds them of creepy Ferengis but because "female" is more of a biological term that could exclude trans women. After all they haven't gone quite as far yet and proclaimed that "trans women are female".

[Uncle]

Everyone in that thread making jokes about genitals being removed...kinda sus tbh.

I wonder if you would still feel it, you know, like a phantom limb

[nobody of note]

I feel like any time Trans Era wonders why a given Very Important Trans Thread is getting ignored by the cis, they could just reread a random Jessi777 post.

Are you Trans? If so maybe attacking the majority trans users with a problem with this is not a good look in public. If not, kindly shut the fuck up and stop telling me how to feel about my own oppression. And since most cis "allies" who talk the right talk still disappear when shit  gets real how am I supposed to put any faith in someone spewing terf points.

And if you're not trans I don't give a shit what you have to say. We don't get support now, deferring to others just weakens us and we still don't get the support. It's not a political issue, or a debate, it's basic human rights, my right to live, be me, and pursue my happiness as long as I'm not hurting others, it's a basic freedom everyone should have and cis people of any political spectrum need to keep our community's name out there mouth. If you're cis and engaging in the "debate" you're hurting us by making it into something that is an "issue" and needs a "debate" when it's not. It's basic human fucking rights.

Are you trans and disagreeing? If so fuck you for arguing in front of the cis. Are you cis and disagreeing? Fuck you for arguing. Are you cis and agreeing? Fuck you for disappearing when shit gets real and for participating in the discussion at all.

[BIONIC]

BrainLeakage77

[Taco Bell Tower]

Damned if you do or dammed if you don't want to be an ally.  No wonder Ree don't have any allies.  They keep running them off when they try to be an ally.

[Propagandhim]

It's not a political issue, or a debate, it's basic human rights, my right to live, be me, and pursue my happiness as long as I'm not hurting others*

Includes my right to allow a defacto policy of puberty-blockers for children so they can never achieve orgasm as adults, instead of them just waiting to go through the process naturally and then transitioning

[BIONIC]

It's not a political issue, or a debate, it's basic human rights, my right to live, be me, and pursue my happiness as long as I'm not hurting others*

Includes my right to allow a defacto policy of puberty-blockers for children so they can never achieve orgasm as adults, instead of them just waiting to go through the process naturally and then transitioning

They’re doing the world a favor. No other human should ever make this face again 

[maninthemirror]

REE: Respect someones pronouns you bigot...

Woman says she wants to be called a woman, not a "person with a uterus"

REE: 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/at-the-height-of-the-attack-on-trans-folk-cenk-and-ana-of-the-young-turks-decide-to-dabble-in-some-old-news-transphobia.700291/

I love that it’s excel posting. She always throws a fit if someone uses the word female instead of woman.

I have this suspicion that excel and some of the other trans members don't dislike "females" because it reminds them of creepy Ferengis but because "female" is more of a biological term that could exclude trans women. After all they haven't gone quite as far yet and proclaimed that "trans women are female".

Someone needs to push that idea in a post on era see it take life

[maninthemirror]

Maybe trans activists are taking out their frustrations on biological women because they cannot experience orgasm anymore ?

[Uncle]

[joeboy101]

Damned if you do or dammed if you don't want to be an ally.  No wonder Ree don't have any allies.  They keep running them off when they try to be an ally.

They don’t want allies. They want a quiet, subservient, audience who nods like a bobble head at anything they screech or pontificate about. Dissent is cruelty.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/world-athletics-bans-transgender-women-who-went-through-male-puberty-from-competing-in-female-world-ranking-events.700516/#post-103088740

User Banned (Permanent): Transphobia

Can someone post the science? I think it would be helpful in this thread and I'd also like to learn.

I know the science is pretty clear that a lot of the advantages of testosterone completely disappear over time on HRT, but like what about being bigger, taller and longer because of male puberty?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/world-athletics-bans-transgender-women-who-went-through-male-puberty-from-competing-in-female-world-ranking-events.700516/page-2#post-103117609

User Banned (Permanent): Transphobia

If this is your stance, you're not progressive.

Do you notice the irony of your statement while we are having a conversation about trans rights?

Isn't shit like "if you have a penis, you're not a woman" what actual transphobes use to shut people out of conversation?

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/at-the-height-of-the-attack-on-trans-folk-cenk-and-ana-of-the-young-turks-decide-to-dabble-in-some-old-news-transphobia.700291/page-4#post-103086709

User banned (2 weeks): Drive-by posting in a sensitive thread

I listen to TYT, they often speak about the number 1 issue in US (read: the world) money in politics. Anna's coverage and deep dive on right to work laws is worth a listen to be sure.

[Propagandhim]

I know the science is pretty clear that a lot of the advantages of testosterone completely disappear over time on HRT

Where did this shit come from?  This idea that men are just women with a little more testosterone and they excel at sports over women because of it?    It's said as fact so confidently now.   

[HaughtyFrank]

I know the science is pretty clear that a lot of the advantages of testosterone completely disappear over time on HRT

Where did this shit come from?  This idea that men are just women with a little more testosterone and they excel at sports over women because of it?    It's said as fact so confidently now.

It's the way alternative facts on Resetera work. It starts with "Cyberpunk 2077 might be problematic" and ends with "Cyberpunk 2077 is an anti-trans manifesto"

Meanwhile anyone who disagrees with it gets banned, fostering the echo chamber. Like they even banned the person you quoted for stating that trans athletes would be taller, which statistically would obviously be the case.

[PogiJones]

(Image removed from quote.)

[Lonewulfeus]

User Banned (permanent): Multiple recent bans for console wars and hostility

I don't think you are in the position to tell people what they should or shouldn't be excited about. When you are an Xbox player or Xbox Game Pass subscriber, you have all the rights to ask for more content and first-party titles, a commitment Microsoft made to the Xbox community starting in 2018:

"Industry consolidation is fine because my favorite box is getting everything after years of being in the mud."

Legit dunno how a fanboy mouthpiece like you isn't banned from this forum. Actually, is not a surprise considering the joke the administration is here. How can someone expect good moderation in a thread like this when most of them benefit from having this acquisition going through?

[joeboy101]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/world-athletics-bans-transgender-women-who-went-through-male-puberty-from-competing-in-female-world-ranking-events.700516/#post-103088740

User Banned (Permanent): Transphobia

Can someone post the science? I think it would be helpful in this thread and I'd also like to learn.

I know the science is pretty clear that a lot of the advantages of testosterone completely disappear over time on HRT, but like what about being bigger, taller and longer because of male puberty?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/world-athletics-bans-transgender-women-who-went-through-male-puberty-from-competing-in-female-world-ranking-events.700516/page-2#post-103117609

User Banned (Permanent): Transphobia

If this is your stance, you're not progressive.

Do you notice the irony of your statement while we are having a conversation about trans rights?

Isn't shit like "if you have a penis, you're not a woman" what actual transphobes use to shut people out of conversation?

No mention of past histories, instantly perm’d. Sulik had over 8K posts.

Remember kids, dissent is cruelty. Questioning is transphobia.

[Jansen]

I feel like any time Trans Era wonders why a given Very Important Trans Thread is getting ignored by the cis, they could just reread a random Jessi777 post.

Are you Trans? If so maybe attacking the majority trans users with a problem with this is not a good look in public. If not, kindly shut the fuck up and stop telling me how to feel about my own oppression. And since most cis "allies" who talk the right talk still disappear when shit  gets real how am I supposed to put any faith in someone spewing terf points.

And if you're not trans I don't give a shit what you have to say. We don't get support now, deferring to others just weakens us and we still don't get the support. It's not a political issue, or a debate, it's basic human rights, my right to live, be me, and pursue my happiness as long as I'm not hurting others, it's a basic freedom everyone should have and cis people of any political spectrum need to keep our community's name out there mouth. If you're cis and engaging in the "debate" you're hurting us by making it into something that is an "issue" and needs a "debate" when it's not. It's basic human fucking rights.

Are you trans and disagreeing? If so fuck you for arguing in front of the cis. Are you cis and disagreeing? Fuck you for arguing. Are you cis and agreeing? Fuck you for disappearing when shit gets real and for participating in the discussion at all.

I know trans genocide is not a thing but can it be? at least for these terminally online posters

[Averon]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/world-athletics-bans-transgender-women-who-went-through-male-puberty-from-competing-in-female-world-ranking-events.700516/#post-103088740

User Banned (Permanent): Transphobia

Can someone post the science? I think it would be helpful in this thread and I'd also like to learn.

I know the science is pretty clear that a lot of the advantages of testosterone completely disappear over time on HRT, but like what about being bigger, taller and longer because of male puberty?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/world-athletics-bans-transgender-women-who-went-through-male-puberty-from-competing-in-female-world-ranking-events.700516/page-2#post-103117609

User Banned (Permanent): Transphobia

If this is your stance, you're not progressive.

Do you notice the irony of your statement while we are having a conversation about trans rights?

Isn't shit like "if you have a penis, you're not a woman" what actual transphobes use to shut people out of conversation?

No mention of past histories, instantly perm’d. Sulik had over 8K posts.

Remember kids, dissent is cruelty. Questioning is transphobia.

I can't quite understand why cis members avoid trans topics and ignore trans members on ERA. It's all so baffling

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

Can someone post the science?

[Uncle]

what's the alternative

can someone post the blind faith

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/world-athletics-bans-transgender-women-who-went-through-male-puberty-from-competing-in-female-world-ranking-events.700516/#post-103092436

So they've made the firmly misogynistic statement that men are better than women and always will be. Like it's a god damn cheat code.

I think it might be considered misogynistic to say that at the highest levels that men don't have a physical advantage in every sport. Otherwise we are calling women lazy (or too dumb to train correctly). Of course a talented trained woman is going to outperform untrained or untalented men.

We are comparing the extremes of the bell curve for men and women and, for any given sport, the combination of characteristics that make someone competitive at the highest levels is going to favor men (by varying degrees). It can sometimes be something super obvious like raw power (I can outproduce the wattage of women's olympic cyclists but I am nowhere near a pro in men's cycling) or other more subtle ways like height and build (they might not give me much of an advantage in a sport like cycling but might in something like swimming or basketball). Again, the bell curve extremes are going to be the optimal blend of every minor and major advantage an athlete can get for a given sport so unless transitioning addresses all of them then it really isn't fair to compete against those born female. The best way to handle this in sports is something I haven't figured out.

I do call bullshit on the banning of Caster (born and raised female regardless of testosterone levels) - basically a naturally physical outlier of outliers for women.

User Banned (Permanent): Transphobia

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/at-the-height-of-the-attack-on-trans-folk-cenk-and-ana-of-the-young-turks-decide-to-dabble-in-some-old-news-transphobia.700291/page-6#post-103121365

User Banned (Permanent): Troll account

I gotta be honest the way this thread is going really highlights the problem with online left discourse. Should Ana have chosen better words? Yes. Should she educate herself about trans terms and how to frame her arguments? Yes. Just because she slips up and has to educate herself about new terms that frankly the entire world is having to learn, does that mean she should be thrown under the bus? Of course not.

People who say that Ana is on the same level as Ben Shapiro and other bigots for this clearly have no idea what they are talking about. Anyone who knows what TYT or Ana talks about clearly knows they are allies for trans causes and frankly are not being honest if they say otherwise. People are allowed to make mistakes and learn from them. We all have. Let's try to have a little grace for people that are fighting for the right causes even if they're not our cup of tea.

Discourse like this makes the online left miss the forest through the trees. Instead of trying to rally to fight back against transphobia, we're throwing our allies under the bus needlessly. People need time to learn new terminology and learn. It happened when gay issues became mainstream and it's happening again.

Stop throwing away people for one mistake in a body of good work. Patience and understanding helps a lot more than slings and arrows.

[Uncle]

Stop throwing away people for one mistake in a body of good work. Patience and understanding helps a lot more than slings and arrows.

man shakespeare was a hack

a sling is a launcher, an arrow is the ammo

it should be rocks and arrows, or slings and bows

furthermore, slings are shit and not even comparable

[Propagandhim]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/at-the-height-of-the-attack-on-trans-folk-cenk-and-ana-of-the-young-turks-decide-to-dabble-in-some-old-news-transphobia.700291/page-6#post-103121365

User Banned (Permanent): Troll account

I gotta be honest the way this thread is going really highlights the problem with online left discourse. Should Ana have chosen better words? Yes. Should she educate herself about trans terms and how to frame her arguments? Yes. Just because she slips up and has to educate herself about new terms that frankly the entire world is having to learn, does that mean she should be thrown under the bus? Of course not.

People who say that Ana is on the same level as Ben Shapiro and other bigots for this clearly have no idea what they are talking about. Anyone who knows what TYT or Ana talks about clearly knows they are allies for trans causes and frankly are not being honest if they say otherwise. People are allowed to make mistakes and learn from them. We all have. Let's try to have a little grace for people that are fighting for the right causes even if they're not our cup of tea.

Discourse like this makes the online left miss the forest through the trees. Instead of trying to rally to fight back against transphobia, we're throwing our allies under the bus needlessly. People need time to learn new terminology and learn. It happened when gay issues became mainstream and it's happening again.

Stop throwing away people for one mistake in a body of good work. Patience and understanding helps a lot more than slings and arrows.

Perma'd for this. Yeah, definitely sounds like a "troll account"  

 Actually a cult.

[knux-future]

yeah they deserve to be miserable at this point lol

"hey maybe don't be total assholes to people who are on your side generally"

"NOPE ABSOLUTE FEALTY OR DEATH. HOLD THIS PERM"

what clowns

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/world-athletics-bans-transgender-women-who-went-through-male-puberty-from-competing-in-female-world-ranking-events.700516/page-3#post-103130905

Honestly, i think a lot of people have a differing opinion on this topic, but are afraid to voice / type it in this thread.

I'm progressive as fuck but i don't agree with letting trans women compete in biological women's category.

The fact that to a LOT of people insinuate or straight up say this immediately equates me to JK Rowling or fucking Matt Walsh shows why we can't have a level headed discussion about this.

I havent looked at the science of this so i have no opinion. But i know better than to ask questions about topics like this on era so i'll just read them and if someone posts something that answers my questions great and the other questions i might have are just gonna have to stay unanswered.

[Propagandhim]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/world-athletics-bans-transgender-women-who-went-through-male-puberty-from-competing-in-female-world-ranking-events.700516/page-3#post-103130905

Honestly, i think a lot of people have a differing opinion on this topic, but are afraid to voice / type it in this thread.

I'm progressive as fuck but i don't agree with letting trans women compete in biological women's category.

The fact that to a LOT of people insinuate or straight up say this immediately equates me to JK Rowling or fucking Matt Walsh shows why we can't have a level headed discussion about this.

I havent looked at the science of this so i have no opinion. But i know better than to ask questions about topics like this on era so i'll just read them and if someone posts something that answers my questions great and the other questions i might have are just gonna have to stay unanswered.

I want to ban him but he was too vague and non-committal

[Uncle]

Also, referring to cis women as "biological" women is TERF shit too.

 

[joeboy101]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/world-athletics-bans-transgender-women-who-went-through-male-puberty-from-competing-in-female-world-ranking-events.700516/page-3#post-103130905

Honestly, i think a lot of people have a differing opinion on this topic, but are afraid to voice / type it in this thread.

I'm progressive as fuck but i don't agree with letting trans women compete in biological women's category.

The fact that to a LOT of people insinuate or straight up say this immediately equates me to JK Rowling or fucking Matt Walsh shows why we can't have a level headed discussion about this.

I havent looked at the science of this so i have no opinion. But i know better than to ask questions about topics like this on era so i'll just read them and if someone posts something that answers my questions great and the other questions i might have are just gonna have to stay unanswered.

Thank you for not looking at the science or articles that have been posted by trans people in this thread to educate yourself, and instead feeling persecuted and silenced. Would you describe yourself as “worried about being cancelled”?

He says with no reflection in a thread where posters are getting perm’d in a heartbeat if they even ask a question, much less disagree.

As to the ‘science or articles’ mentioned, which would suggest there are multiple?

https://www.cces.ca/sites/default/files/content/docs/pdf/transgenderwomenathletesandelitesport-ascientificreview-e-final.pdf

That’s it. Yup, only link… a review of existing scientific literature done by a ‘research hub for gender+ equity in sport’.

It’s pretty predictable in its screed, especially on the conclusion. Yet, even in their section on Biological Considerations…

Biological data in this area are severely limited. In fact, an illuminating place to start is to note that, “to date, there have been no prospective studies investigating the changes in athletic performance in transgender athletes after hormonal transition” (Harper et al., 2021, p. 1), and many pertinent biological questions remained unexplored. The data that do exist often come with methodological concerns, and/or are limited in their ability to generalize to elite transgender athletes.

Yeeeaaaah, so a scientific literature review where the literature is near absent.

 

And that is what they are using for their ‘science’.

[NekoFever]

Why do these organizations care so much about Women. If this were truly about being fair then why only target Women? Is there no concern for the protection of Trans Men competing against Cis Men? Shouldn't they also stand up for Men who may have gone through female puberty?

They always treat this as a gotcha for some reason.

No one cares about trans men competing as men for the same reason why nobody cares about boxers choosing to compete in a higher weight class.

Hell, I bet most people wouldn’t care about a cis woman choosing to compete against cis men if she was good enough.

[joeboy101]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/world-athletics-bans-transgender-women-who-went-through-male-puberty-from-competing-in-female-world-ranking-events.700516/page-3#post-103130905

Honestly, i think a lot of people have a differing opinion on this topic, but are afraid to voice / type it in this thread.

I'm progressive as fuck but i don't agree with letting trans women compete in biological women's category.

The fact that to a LOT of people insinuate or straight up say this immediately equates me to JK Rowling or fucking Matt Walsh shows why we can't have a level headed discussion about this.

I havent looked at the science of this so i have no opinion. But i know better than to ask questions about topics like this on era so i'll just read them and if someone posts something that answers my questions great and the other questions i might have are just gonna have to stay unanswered.

I want to ban him but he was too vague and non-committal

Ask your questions respectfully, make sure they haven’t already been answered in this thread, and stop declaring preemptively that we’re going to crucify you for asking and I think you’ll be fine

Riiiight.

The passive aggressive pre self victimization that you willingly posted while otherwise declaring your attention to supposedly learn quietly is truly an effective way to ingratiate yourself with us

As she knows, the only effective way is supplication.

[Jansen]

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/man-accused-of-streaming-castrations-other-extreme-body-modifications-for-eunuch-maker-website-faces-court.700540/#post-103093993

Wondering when this story is going to somehow be spun to attack trans people.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/man-accused-of-streaming-castrations-other-extreme-body-modifications-for-eunuch-maker-website-faces-court.700540/#post-103094149

Sadly was my first thought too

https://www.resetera.com/threads/man-accused-of-streaming-castrations-other-extreme-body-modifications-for-eunuch-maker-website-faces-court.700540/page-2#post-103100179

Yup, pretty much what I was scrolling the thread to see.

[Jansen]

Yeah, well, look how y'all act...