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Re: Off-Site Discussion: Forum 4 Sale for $4.5 Million OBO
« Reply #4680 on: October 17, 2021, 02:30:31 PM »
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Does anybody here work for Best Buy corporate?

Long story short, I ordered an item, picked it up, said item was not on the box. Called Best Buy online and they told me to go to the store. Went to the store, the store manager was not helpful and told me to call Best Buy.com. I explained to him over and over that the Best Buy dot com people sent me to the store. I asked him to call them with me so we could sort this out and he said no. He gave me a script of what I should tell them and said they’d take care of me.

I left, and I just spent the last hour on the phone with bestbuy.com and while the guy I talked to was super helpful, he couldn’t help me get a refund or exchange. They advised I go back to the store and demand that the store manager help me. I asked him for information about who I could contact at corporate for help and he said he wasn’t allowed to give that to me. WTF.


At this point it feels like I should file a police report and a charge back with my credit card.

I remember reading a horror story about a TV purchase gone wrong here a while back and wondered if the folks who helped out there could help here too. I can’t afford to spend half a day in the store to just not get helped. Does ANYONE have any suggestions here or shutouts I just go straight to chargeback? Feels like if I do that Best Buy will close my account and I’d still rather do business with them than Walmart.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/best-buy-is-fucking-me-and-i-don%E2%80%99t-know-what-to-do.500892/

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It’s a graphics card. We were going to get our roof fixed but it turns out we didn’t have to so I was using the money I set aside to was getting upgrading my wife’s Pc this year for Christmas. There was a giant bag of powder and another graphics card in the box but not the one I ordered.

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Re: Off-Site Discussion: Forum 4 Sale for $4.5 Million OBO
« Reply #4681 on: October 17, 2021, 02:46:06 PM »
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Maybe Era can be passed around to different countries every year. I would like to be owned by the Dutch next please.

Nintex, is that your alt?
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Nintex

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Re: Off-Site Discussion: Forum 4 Sale for $4.5 Million OBO
« Reply #4682 on: October 17, 2021, 02:48:20 PM »
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Maybe Era can be passed around to different countries every year. I would like to be owned by the Dutch next please.

Nintex, is that your alt?
nope, I never make alt accounts.
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benjipwns

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Re: Off-Site Discussion: Forum 4 Sale for $4.5 Million OBO
« Reply #4683 on: October 17, 2021, 02:52:55 PM »
So again, I don't mean to pick on Poodlestrike, especially since he seems a bit slow, but this doesn't apply just to him:
This, yeah. I don't know what's going to happen with advertising, and I'll certainly be annoyed if it becomes a burden, but all I can speak to is moderation, which is not going to change because of the buy-out. Or if it is, you'll all know about it immediately, because I know for a fact that I and most likely the rest of the mod team will be ringing the alarm bells.
Poodlestrike is not a moderator, he's an admin.

Their own staff guide lists this many admins:
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AliceAmber (Mod Captain)
B-Dubs (General Manager)
ColdSun
Delphine
ghostcrew
Hecht
JayC3 (Mod Captain)
Minaret (Mod Captain)
Nepenthe (Mod Captain)
Poodlestrike (Mod Captain)
The Woods
Transistor (Mod Captain)

Of these, only two have been mentioned as doing something other than being a moderator. Hecht and ColdSun have been mentioned as being able to read "traffic logs" which I assume is just a page/tab within the XF admin panel. Hecht apparently is the alt-stalker but that also seems like a moderator task.

Now, none of these people get paid (PLEASE DON'T PAY THEM THEY DON'T WANT IT) but even so when MOBA Network AB appoints someone to oversee the forum (and they will) he should definitely ask why they have so many fucking admins who don't do anything at all simply from a structural standpoint.

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Re: Off-Site Discussion: Forum 4 Sale for $4.5 Million OBO
« Reply #4684 on: October 17, 2021, 02:52:57 PM »
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Add most of accessibility era too given that most of them were either driven away or just banned

WTF?

First of all, accessibility era? Was that like a community for the physically disabled?

Second, how the fuck were they so offended by something they up and left en masse?
« Last Edit: October 17, 2021, 03:00:51 PM by Potato »
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Re: Off-Site Discussion: Forum 4 Sale for $4.5 Million OBO
« Reply #4685 on: October 17, 2021, 02:53:37 PM »
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The with the image is that a majority of the groups left, so they are "dead". You're the one splitting hairs when you are the one implying that the communities are just totally dead and gone. Like, PoliEra... some central members left but it doesn't seem like the thread is all that much slower than it was before the 2020 primary season (which was the massive breaking point in a half-dozen ways).

And, yes, I'm actually defending PlanetSmasher here. Just going down a huge list of groups that died or is a clear attempt at massively inflating the scale of the various exoduses.
We've managed to regrow thankfully.

Iirc, PoliEra used to have a new OT each month more or less, so 20000 posts per month.  The 2021 PoliEra thread is only OT3 so it seems to be a drop of roughly 66% without getting into the actual numbers cause I’m not that autistic.  Build back better amiright?

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Re: Off-Site Discussion: Forum 4 Sale for $4.5 Million OBO
« Reply #4686 on: October 17, 2021, 02:54:36 PM »
I really want to return to this, because Poodlestrike really is such a fucking moron;

Nothing about paying moderators is tied to quality of moderation; see Facebook and Twitter and so on.

The impliction being that Facebook and Twitter moderators are of a shittier quality than era are.

But you know what?

If you click the "I would like my account to be deleted" button on twitter or facebook, it removes fucking everything.
It doesn't get pissy about 'how' you decided to leave their service, and start reinstating your posts and images because it feels you weren't deferential enough in how you left and that the TOS said that you technically don't own your own copyright or usage rights anymore, which would most definitely stand up in court if pressed.

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Re: Off-Site Discussion: Forum 4 Sale for $4.5 Million OBO
« Reply #4687 on: October 17, 2021, 02:54:59 PM »
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Add most of accessibility era too given that most of them were either driven away or just banned

WTF?

First of all, accessibility era? Was that like a community for the physically disabled?

Second, how the fuck were they do offended by something they up and left en masse?
There was the annoying furry that kept complaining how Super Mario was too difficult or some shit and shitted up every thread with "THIS GAME SHOULD HAVE EASY MODE FOR PEOPLE WITH NO BRAIN".

Probably the only poster they saved from themselves.


Also with regards to data on Era. The GDPR is a paper tiger in this case. It only applies to personal data such as names, addresses, email etc. .
The 'deleted user #' thing they usually do is good enough along with a privacy policy and a cookie consent button.

Also Europe is not the US where you can just sue anybody, it's more of a last resort after no settlement could be made between the parties.
Lawsuits are expensive and I can't imagine a lawyer is going to prosecute a case regarding forum posts.

A case could work when it involves copyrights but you can't copyright your own fan wank based on existing brands and products.
That's the same problem the YouTube content creators have that rely on copyrighted material.
« Last Edit: October 17, 2021, 03:01:06 PM by Nintex »
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GreatSageEqualOfHeaven

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Re: Off-Site Discussion: Forum 4 Sale for $4.5 Million OBO
« Reply #4688 on: October 17, 2021, 02:55:16 PM »
So again, I don't mean to pick on Poodlestrike,

I fucking do

benjipwns

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Re: Off-Site Discussion: Forum 4 Sale for $4.5 Million OBO
« Reply #4689 on: October 17, 2021, 02:55:45 PM »
Also note again that while the staff were gone the European users came up with a bunch of questions and other things. The staff came back on and rather than say something like "we agree, we hope to find out more about these exact things" they instead immediately went right back to complaining about the users acting in bad faith by saying they want the mods paid and/or relitigating CrackerGate where K.Jack/Royalan couldn't be bothered to actually read a conversation but felt they had to "jump in" due to "black/white relations" and then they complained when they didn't understand the conversation.

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Re: Off-Site Discussion: Forum 4 Sale for $4.5 Million OBO
« Reply #4690 on: October 17, 2021, 02:58:15 PM »
So again, I don't mean to pick on Poodlestrike, especially since he seems a bit slow, but this doesn't apply just to him:
This, yeah. I don't know what's going to happen with advertising, and I'll certainly be annoyed if it becomes a burden, but all I can speak to is moderation, which is not going to change because of the buy-out. Or if it is, you'll all know about it immediately, because I know for a fact that I and most likely the rest of the mod team will be ringing the alarm bells.
Poodlestrike is not a moderator, he's an admin.

You mean, the same way the community was immediately informed about ownership changes when cerium enforced his hostile takeover back in 2018-19 and when the plan was put into place months ago to flog that shithole to the first buyer willing to stump up some cash?
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benjipwns

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Re: Off-Site Discussion: Forum 4 Sale for $4.5 Million OBO
« Reply #4691 on: October 17, 2021, 03:01:34 PM »
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Add most of accessibility era too given that most of them were either driven away or just banned

WTF?

First of all, accessibility era? Was that like a community for the physically disabled?

Second, how the fuck were they do offended by something they up and left en masse?
Read this Twitter thread:
https://twitter.com/Mendinso/status/1448683676791943170
Or one of his old threads:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/we-need-to-have-a-talk-about-how-era-users-interact-with-users-with-disabilities-and-accessibility-issues.260895/

This guy and Android Sophia were about the bulk of AccessibilityERA.

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Re: Off-Site Discussion: Forum 4 Sale for $4.5 Million OBO
« Reply #4692 on: October 17, 2021, 03:03:03 PM »
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We've managed to regrow thankfully.

Iirc, PoliEra used to have a new OT each month more or less, so 20000 posts per month.  The 2021 PoliEra thread is only OT3 so it seems to be a drop of roughly 66% without getting into the actual numbers cause I’m not that autistic.  Build back better amiright?

This has some massive Shower Goblin circa 2020 desperation stink to it.
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Re: Off-Site Discussion: Forum 4 Sale for $4.5 Million OBO
« Reply #4693 on: October 17, 2021, 03:03:13 PM »
If he leaned on his gay furry status he would've been protected better :trumps
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Re: Off-Site Discussion: Forum 4 Sale for $4.5 Million OBO
« Reply #4694 on: October 17, 2021, 03:05:29 PM »
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The with the image is that a majority of the groups left, so they are "dead". You're the one splitting hairs when you are the one implying that the communities are just totally dead and gone. Like, PoliEra... some central members left but it doesn't seem like the thread is all that much slower than it was before the 2020 primary season (which was the massive breaking point in a half-dozen ways).

And, yes, I'm actually defending PlanetSmasher here. Just going down a huge list of groups that died or is a clear attempt at massively inflating the scale of the various exoduses.
We've managed to regrow thankfully.

Iirc, PoliEra used to have a new OT each month more or less, so 20000 posts per month.  The 2021 PoliEra thread is only OT3 so it seems to be a drop of roughly 66% without getting into the actual numbers cause I’m not that autistic.  Build back better amiright?
Kyrsten Sinema is blocking the thread from having more posts

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Re: Off-Site Discussion: Forum 4 Sale for $4.5 Million OBO
« Reply #4695 on: October 17, 2021, 03:06:19 PM »
The MTG community is just perpetually miserable, somehow moreso than the WoW community. There's just a massive swarm of people that are angry all of the time and absolutely lose it at people that don't treat the game or creators with pure contempt. There being layers and layers of splintering shouldn't be surprising.
:teehee

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benjipwns

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« Reply #4696 on: October 17, 2021, 03:07:30 PM »
This, yeah. I don't know what's going to happen with advertising, and I'll certainly be annoyed if it becomes a burden, but all I can speak to is moderation, which is not going to change because of the buy-out. Or if it is, you'll all know about it immediately, because I know for a fact that I and most likely the rest of the mod team will be ringing the alarm bells.
You mean, the same way the community was immediately informed about ownership changes when cerium enforced his hostile takeover back in 2018-19 and when the plan was put into place months ago to flog that shithole to the first buyer willing to stump up some cash?
No, no, they mean when MOBA reduces them to regular pleb users they'll spam the forum with porn and gore images and "MOBA RETIRE BITCH" threads on the way out like they did with NeoGAF.com.

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Re: Off-Site Discussion: Forum 4 Sale for $4.5 Million OBO
« Reply #4697 on: October 17, 2021, 03:08:33 PM »
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Add most of accessibility era too given that most of them were either driven away or just banned

WTF?

First of all, accessibility era? Was that like a community for the physically disabled?

Second, how the fuck were they do offended by something they up and left en masse?
Read this Twitter thread:
https://twitter.com/Mendinso/status/1448683676791943170
Or one of his old threads:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/we-need-to-have-a-talk-about-how-era-users-interact-with-users-with-disabilities-and-accessibility-issues.260895/

This guy and Android Sophia were about the bulk of AccessibilityERA.
So basically typical Reeeeesetera, "Why doesn't everyone care deeply about my own personal niche complaint!!!!!!"
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Re: Off-Site Discussion: Forum 4 Sale for $4.5 Million OBO
« Reply #4698 on: October 17, 2021, 03:09:43 PM »
14 tweets is a small thread? Fuck, “dark souls is too hard” sums it all up.

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« Reply #4699 on: October 17, 2021, 03:10:24 PM »
Who knew ERA mods were complete simps to the owner class to the point where they are glad the owners aren't paying them. Where is all that "Worker rights! Unionize! Pay a fair wage! Eat the rich!" rhetoric they love to spew? Funny how the only rich guy they are fine with is Cerium, the man who got them to work for free for four years straight. Utterly bizarre.

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Re: Off-Site Discussion: Forum 4 Sale for $4.5 Million OBO
« Reply #4700 on: October 17, 2021, 03:11:24 PM »
Has accessibility era ever answered the question of why don't they just play another game? the vast majority of modern games go out of their way to make games as easy and accessible as possible. why did this guy nuke his account over being too stupid to beat dark souls or super mario?

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Re: Off-Site Discussion: Forum 4 Sale for $4.5 Million OBO
« Reply #4701 on: October 17, 2021, 03:12:55 PM »
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Add most of accessibility era too given that most of them were either driven away or just banned

WTF?

First of all, accessibility era? Was that like a community for the physically disabled?

Second, how the fuck were they do offended by something they up and left en masse?
There was the annoying furry that kept complaining how Super Mario was too difficult or some shit and shitted up every thread with "THIS GAME SHOULD HAVE EASY MODE FOR PEOPLE WITH NO BRAIN".

Probably the only poster they saved from themselves.


Also with regards to data on Era. The GDPR is a paper tiger in this case. It only applies to personal data such as names, addresses, email etc. .
The 'deleted user #' thing they usually do is good enough along with a privacy policy and a cookie consent button.

Also Europe is not the US where you can just sue anybody, it's more of a last resort after no settlement could be made between the parties.
Lawsuits are expensive and I can't imagine a lawyer is going to prosecute a case regarding forum posts.

A case could work when it involves copyrights but you can't copyright your own fan wank based on existing brands and products.
That's the same problem the YouTube content creators have that rely on copyrighted material.

the gay barra furry? :info
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Re: Off-Site Discussion: Forum 4 Sale for $4.5 Million OBO
« Reply #4702 on: October 17, 2021, 03:13:55 PM »
I know I've been a bit lenient, but I'm gonna give Cerium maybe a few more minutes to come back

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« Reply #4703 on: October 17, 2021, 03:15:35 PM »
He's a good man.  One of the best.  He's the only person that would DM me and ask me if I was okay when I was doing poorly.  He called my mother to wish her a happy birthday.  He's one of the best people I know, and he'll be back in minutes like he said he would.

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Re: Off-Site Discussion: Forum 4 Sale for $4.5 Million OBO
« Reply #4704 on: October 17, 2021, 03:15:36 PM »
Did they ever answer the question if their members # on the front page includes perma’d and deleted users?

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Re: Off-Site Discussion: Forum 4 Sale for $4.5 Million OBO
« Reply #4705 on: October 17, 2021, 03:15:58 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/probably-about-to-walk-through-a-big-%E2%80%9Cpro-life%E2%80%9D-gathering.501408/post-75345126

What do I do?

I don't know, walk and get you damn burger?

resolution later

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Stay Safe
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Re: Off-Site Discussion: Forum 4 Sale for $4.5 Million OBO
« Reply #4706 on: October 17, 2021, 03:16:49 PM »
Did they ever answer the question if their members # on the front page includes perma’d and deleted users?

Nope, they dodged that one with as much finesse as Mendinso playing Dark Souls. 

Re: Off-Site Discussion: Forum 4 Sale for $4.5 Million OBO
« Reply #4707 on: October 17, 2021, 03:17:24 PM »
I am enjoying the spectacle of a regular-ass poster pointing out to a mod that he could have just taken shit to PMs instead of being a dick in public:
Quote from: breakfuss
Noticed how I fell back? You could have just as easily PMd me instead of all the "iokno wut he talkin bout fam" posts. Baiting me into your signature dogpiles but whatever, fuck it. I didn't generalize the site as anti-white. I was only addressing an unhinged individual. Since you want to mischaracterize what I said as being pressed over someone using cracker I'll clarify: it's lazy and needlessly divisive. You can argue all day about power structures precluding it from being racist (I, too, watch TED talks on my days off…omG  sooooo edifying!) but the intent/context matters. Disqualifying a person's opinions because they happen to be a different color/sex/orientation than you is lame as fuck. That's not what this place used to be about. Oh trust, I can clown bothered white folk all day but I know where the hell to do it and when to reel it in. Every poster/dev/whatever can't be fucking racist, sexist or a homophobe as I often see being inferred by the moderation. Some of yall are so overzealous you even got white women out here calling grown ass black men "crackers" lmfao. Yikes. Who signs up to ResetEra (fucking ResetEra!!!), with their work or school emails no less, to push bigoted ideologies? We can tackle the nonsense without painting broad strokes on everyone who may have a differing opinion.

There's obviously an undercurrent of anti-[take your pick] among the moderation. Can't fully articulate it at the moment it but it's there. And there are also staff I've interacted with who are cool as hell and compassionate. It's just my opinion. I empathize because I get frustrated with life's unjust bullshit as well. I think I've been more than charitable while addressing some concerns. I'm still applauding your efforts and still remaining in your corner but it's only been met with derision.

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Re: Off-Site Discussion: Forum 4 Sale for $4.5 Million OBO
« Reply #4708 on: October 17, 2021, 03:19:07 PM »
Did they ever answer the question if their members # on the front page includes perma’d and deleted users?

Nope, they dodged that one with as much finesse as Mendinso playing Dark Souls. 
I feel like it’s been hovering about 50k since the first month the place opened too. If they do have 50-100 daily applications they must be turning a lot of them away…

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« Reply #4709 on: October 17, 2021, 03:20:48 PM »
I am enjoying the spectacle of a regular-ass poster pointing out to a mod that he could have just taken shit to PMs instead of being a dick in public:
Quote from: breakfuss
Noticed how I fell back? You could have just as easily PMd me instead of all the "iokno wut he talkin bout fam" posts. Baiting me into your signature dogpiles but whatever, fuck it. I didn't generalize the site as anti-white. I was only addressing an unhinged individual. Since you want to mischaracterize what I said as being pressed over someone using cracker I'll clarify: it's lazy and needlessly divisive. You can argue all day about power structures precluding it from being racist (I, too, watch TED talks on my days off…omG  sooooo edifying!) but the intent/context matters. Disqualifying a person's opinions because they happen to be a different color/sex/orientation than you is lame as fuck. That's not what this place used to be about. Oh trust, I can clown bothered white folk all day but I know where the hell to do it and when to reel it in. Every poster/dev/whatever can't be fucking racist, sexist or a homophobe as I often see being inferred by the moderation. Some of yall are so overzealous you even got white women out here calling grown ass black men "crackers" lmfao. Yikes. Who signs up to ResetEra (fucking ResetEra!!!), with their work or school emails no less, to push bigoted ideologies? We can tackle the nonsense without painting broad strokes on everyone who may have a differing opinion.

There's obviously an undercurrent of anti-[take your pick] among the moderation. Can't fully articulate it at the moment it but it's there. And there are also staff I've interacted with who are cool as hell and compassionate. It's just my opinion. I empathize because I get frustrated with life's unjust bullshit as well. I think I've been more than charitable while addressing some concerns. I'm still applauding your efforts and still remaining in your corner but it's only been met with derision.


That guy is really laying it bare. It's a clique of assholes who happen to be black or trans and have appropriated the language of oppression for their little video games thing

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« Reply #4710 on: October 17, 2021, 03:22:45 PM »
Era safe space = reality echo chamber

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Re: Off-Site Discussion: Forum 4 Sale for $4.5 Million OBO
« Reply #4711 on: October 17, 2021, 03:26:50 PM »
I am enjoying the spectacle of a regular-ass poster pointing out to a mod that he could have just taken shit to PMs instead of being a dick in public:
Quote from: breakfuss
Noticed how I fell back? You could have just as easily PMd me instead of all the "iokno wut he talkin bout fam" posts. Baiting me into your signature dogpiles but whatever, fuck it. I didn't generalize the site as anti-white. I was only addressing an unhinged individual. Since you want to mischaracterize what I said as being pressed over someone using cracker I'll clarify: it's lazy and needlessly divisive. You can argue all day about power structures precluding it from being racist (I, too, watch TED talks on my days off…omG  sooooo edifying!) but the intent/context matters. Disqualifying a person's opinions because they happen to be a different color/sex/orientation than you is lame as fuck. That's not what this place used to be about. Oh trust, I can clown bothered white folk all day but I know where the hell to do it and when to reel it in. Every poster/dev/whatever can't be fucking racist, sexist or a homophobe as I often see being inferred by the moderation. Some of yall are so overzealous you even got white women out here calling grown ass black men "crackers" lmfao. Yikes. Who signs up to ResetEra (fucking ResetEra!!!), with their work or school emails no less, to push bigoted ideologies? We can tackle the nonsense without painting broad strokes on everyone who may have a differing opinion.

There's obviously an undercurrent of anti-[take your pick] among the moderation. Can't fully articulate it at the moment it but it's there. And there are also staff I've interacted with who are cool as hell and compassionate. It's just my opinion. I empathize because I get frustrated with life's unjust bullshit as well. I think I've been more than charitable while addressing some concerns. I'm still applauding your efforts and still remaining in your corner but it's only been met with derision.

The only question now is if they can top the "alt account" ban

Yulwei

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« Reply #4712 on: October 17, 2021, 03:27:09 PM »
I am enjoying the spectacle of a regular-ass poster pointing out to a mod that he could have just taken shit to PMs instead of being a dick in public:
Quote from: breakfuss
Noticed how I fell back? You could have just as easily PMd me instead of all the "iokno wut he talkin bout fam" posts. Baiting me into your signature dogpiles but whatever, fuck it. I didn't generalize the site as anti-white. I was only addressing an unhinged individual. Since you want to mischaracterize what I said as being pressed over someone using cracker I'll clarify: it's lazy and needlessly divisive. You can argue all day about power structures precluding it from being racist (I, too, watch TED talks on my days off…omG  sooooo edifying!) but the intent/context matters. Disqualifying a person's opinions because they happen to be a different color/sex/orientation than you is lame as fuck. That's not what this place used to be about. Oh trust, I can clown bothered white folk all day but I know where the hell to do it and when to reel it in. Every poster/dev/whatever can't be fucking racist, sexist or a homophobe as I often see being inferred by the moderation. Some of yall are so overzealous you even got white women out here calling grown ass black men "crackers" lmfao. Yikes. Who signs up to ResetEra (fucking ResetEra!!!), with their work or school emails no less, to push bigoted ideologies? We can tackle the nonsense without painting broad strokes on everyone who may have a differing opinion.

There's obviously an undercurrent of anti-[take your pick] among the moderation. Can't fully articulate it at the moment it but it's there. And there are also staff I've interacted with who are cool as hell and compassionate. It's just my opinion. I empathize because I get frustrated with life's unjust bullshit as well. I think I've been more than charitable while addressing some concerns. I'm still applauding your efforts and still remaining in your corner but it's only been met with derision.

 :neogaf that brother had time for those bitch ass mods today


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Re: Off-Site Discussion: Forum 4 Sale for $4.5 Million OBO
« Reply #4713 on: October 17, 2021, 03:27:33 PM »
Has accessibility era ever answered the question of why don't they just play another game? the vast majority of modern games go out of their way to make games as easy and accessible as possible. why did this guy nuke his account over being too stupid to beat dark souls or super mario?
I recall it was something about Super Mario Galaxy or Oddessey. The gay bara furry had to hold a button and press another button to beat a boss and couldn't mentally do that or some shit.
People offered some solutions, like ask someone else to beat that particular boss or download a save file.

But he shut them down and his position was basically, the entire game needs to be reworked so people with severe mental disabilities can play it.
Others tried to explain that some people find challenging games (such as super mario *cough*) fun, while others like easier games, which the gay furry took a personal insult because the gay furry should be able to play any game and challenging games should not exist period. Some back and forth 'git gud' and Ree'ing later and the furry's thread was nuked. Then the gay furry decided to do what transEra does, which is shit up every unrelated thread with their personal grievances, in this case accessibilty.
Mostly targetting especially difficult games like the Souls games but also just completely random and unrelated topics.

Most posters decided to simply ignore the furry's posts. So that prompted the gay furry to make a thread about how they needed to discuss how the community would handle those accessibilty issues because everyone ignored their whining.
I think at that point a mod figured out the gay furry would win the opression olympics as he wasn't just pretending to be fucked in the head like most of the others so they swung with the ban hammer.
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Pissy F Benny

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« Reply #4714 on: October 17, 2021, 03:31:38 PM »
wtf is a gay bara furry anyway?

someone who gets fucked in the ass by cholo gangsters while wearing a fursuit?

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Yulwei

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Re: Off-Site Discussion: Forum 4 Sale for $4.5 Million OBO
« Reply #4715 on: October 17, 2021, 03:32:52 PM »
Has accessibility era ever answered the question of why don't they just play another game? the vast majority of modern games go out of their way to make games as easy and accessible as possible. why did this guy nuke his account over being too stupid to beat dark souls or super mario?
I recall it was something about Super Mario Galaxy or Oddessey. The gay bara furry had to hold a button and press another button to beat a boss and couldn't mentally do that or some shit.
People offered some solutions, like ask someone else to beat that particular boss or download a save file.

But he shut them down and his position was basically, the entire game needs to be reworked so people with severe mental disabilities can play it.
Others tried to explain that some people find challenging games (such as super mario *cough*) fun, while others like easier games, which the gay furry took a personal insult because the gay furry should be able to play any game and challenging games should not exist period. Some back and forth 'git gud' and Ree'ing later and the furry's thread was nuked. Then the gay furry decided to do what transEra does, which is shit up every unrelated thread with their personal grievances, in this case accessibilty.
Mostly targetting especially difficult games like the Souls games.

Most posters decided to simply ignore the furry's posts. So that prompted the gay furry to make a thread about how they needed to discuss how the community would handle those accessibilty issues because everyone ignored their whining.
I think at that point a mod figured out the gay furry would win the opression olympics as he wasn't just pretending to be fucked in the head like most of the others so they swung with the ban hammer.

 :sabu :sabu :sabu A+ breakdown. Thank you nintex  :bow

and after looking over his twitter for a bit, you can just TELL he would instantly go back to era if he could. this guy's tweets get 1-2 likes on average. it's a lot harder to get attention on twitter than it is on era. he overplayed his hand!

benjipwns

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« Reply #4716 on: October 17, 2021, 03:34:39 PM »
The only question now is if they can top the "alt account" ban
Thread derail of a "sensitive" thread.

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« Reply #4717 on: October 17, 2021, 03:35:26 PM »
Has accessibility era ever answered the question of why don't they just play another game?

Boiling their brains down to the point that they believe that all things that slightly challenge them are hostile specifically towards their personal beliefs.

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Being part of an ADHD generation of watching Netflix movies at x2 speed. I.e. people feeling obliged to participate in every circle jerk and spoiler talk of highly promoted products asap to not feel like being left behind.

blaze

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« Reply #4718 on: October 17, 2021, 03:42:11 PM »
I checked out famiboards and it seems weirdly normal for a forum created by nintendo era exodus

Uncle

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« Reply #4719 on: October 17, 2021, 03:44:31 PM »
from his tweet thread

Quote from: gay bara furry
The often defense is "Well, not every game is for everyone".  Like, look, that's a fair point. But what if it's not for me because I generally enjoy the mechanics, but the difficult itself is too hard?

...then it's still not for you?

what if a game is easy and fun, but the story is shit?

what if a game is easy to play and you love the story and music, but all the women characters reveal too much thigh?



what if you're dating a woman and she's perfect in every way but she has man hands
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Potato

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« Reply #4720 on: October 17, 2021, 03:45:48 PM »
I checked out famiboards and it seems weirdly normal for a forum created by nintendo era exodus
Give it time. Reeeeesetera seemed normal for a few minutes too
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Pissy F Benny

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Re: Off-Site Discussion: Forum 4 Sale for $4.5 Million OBO
« Reply #4721 on: October 17, 2021, 03:46:02 PM »
from his tweet thread

Quote from: gay bara furry
The often defense is "Well, not every game is for everyone".  Like, look, that's a fair point. But what if it's not for me because I generally enjoy the mechanics, but the difficult itself is too hard?

...then it's still not for you?

what if a game is easy and fun, but the story is shit?

what if a game is easy to play and you love the story and music, but all the women characters reveal too much thigh?



what if you're dating a woman and she's perfect in every way but she has man hands

why would a gay bara furry be dating a filthy wench? :gurl
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Yulwei

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Re: Off-Site Discussion: Forum 4 Sale for $4.5 Million OBO
« Reply #4722 on: October 17, 2021, 03:46:47 PM »
what if you're dating a woman and she's perfect in every way but she has man hands
then you'll be getting some mean handjobs. just how i like em

blaze

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Re: Off-Site Discussion: Forum 4 Sale for $4.5 Million OBO
« Reply #4723 on: October 17, 2021, 03:49:13 PM »
I checked out famiboards and it seems weirdly normal for a forum created by nintendo era exodus
Give it time. Reeeeesetera seemed normal for a few minutes too
Hmm did it?

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Let's Cyber

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« Reply #4725 on: October 17, 2021, 03:50:46 PM »
So the site is bleeding not just members but entire communities. The moderators and administrators are in denial about the incoming asteroid and openly hate their users, the users hate the moderators and administrators and the new owners haven't even shown up yet to change anything or cull the undesirables.

I'm sure this is going to work out great!

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« Reply #4726 on: October 17, 2021, 03:52:38 PM »
The MTG community is just perpetually miserable, somehow moreso than the WoW community. There's just a massive swarm of people that are angry all of the time and absolutely lose it at people that don't treat the game or creators with pure contempt. There being layers and layers of splintering shouldn't be surprising.
:teehee

Literally :spiders in text form.  :lol
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Re: Off-Site Discussion: Forum 4 Sale for $4.5 Million OBO
« Reply #4727 on: October 17, 2021, 03:53:14 PM »
I checked out famiboards and it seems weirdly normal for a forum created by nintendo era exodus
They adopted that obnoxious GAF/Era detached "staff" lingo, despite being a dozen people. 
Not a good start.

Also it's a Nintendo themed forum, chances of it being anything close to "normal" are .0%.  ;)

Uncle

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Re: Off-Site Discussion: Forum 4 Sale for $4.5 Million OBO
« Reply #4728 on: October 17, 2021, 03:54:15 PM »
from his tweet thread

Quote from: gay bara furry
The often defense is "Well, not every game is for everyone".  Like, look, that's a fair point. But what if it's not for me because I generally enjoy the mechanics, but the difficult itself is too hard?

...then it's still not for you?

what if a game is easy and fun, but the story is shit?

what if a game is easy to play and you love the story and music, but all the women characters reveal too much thigh?



what if you're dating a woman and she's perfect in every way but she has man hands

why would a gay bara furry be dating a filthy wench? :gurl

:notlikethis you got me
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Re: Off-Site Discussion: Forum 4 Sale for $4.5 Million OBO
« Reply #4729 on: October 17, 2021, 03:55:21 PM »
I checked out famiboards and it seems weirdly normal for a forum created by nintendo era exodus
They adopted that obnoxious GAF/Era detached "staff" lingo, despite being a dozen people. 
Not a good start.

Also it's a Nintendo themed forum, chances of it being anything close to "normal" are .0%.  ;)
I don’t expect it to continue past maybe a week but I was just a shocked that a fucking Nintendo forum seems more sane than Reset even if it’s only for a minute lol

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« Reply #4730 on: October 17, 2021, 03:57:27 PM »
From that Redeye report someone posted:

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Adding communities and economies of scale
The group can grow by adding new communities, either through in-house launches on its proprietary platform or acquisitions. It develops and launches new in-house communities in conjunction with releases of new games. To get them off to strong starts, M.O.B.A. cross-promotes these launches to its existing communities in the same genre. New websites are increasing diversification, with the newly launched site Runeterrafire.com seeing rapid growth.
 
Furthermore, the company is working to improve its existing websites. This has led to traffic growth of several hundred percent at Counterstats.net, Smitefire.com, and Leaguespy.gg. We also believe that there is considerable room to improve the average revenue per user as well.
 
M.O.B.A.’s clear M&A focus in the gaming community niche is evident in its successful acquisition of CriticalClick in 2018. Today many communities in the sector operate at a “hobby” level that offers substantial potential for synergies and optimization if commercialized under M.O.B.A.’s umbrella. Accordingly, we see good scope for the company to make value-adding acquisitions through new game titles, rich media, and mobile. This is, however, not included in our base case estimates or base case valuation.


Cerium: MOBA Fire is a perfect fit
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Uncle

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« Reply #4731 on: October 17, 2021, 04:01:06 PM »
I checked out famiboards and it seems weirdly normal for a forum created by nintendo era exodus

https://famiboards.com/threads/xenoblade-2-is-a-wonderful-game.456/#post-29520

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« Reply #4732 on: October 17, 2021, 04:01:36 PM »
Over 100 pages of concern in this thread about MOBA turning this site in a direction that is harmful towards minorities, and yet it's users, not MOBA, that are pushing the idea that racism against white people is a thing and shouldn't be tolerated on this site and are demanding change. Something that has never been a rule on the site or enforced and is antithesis to supporting and giving a space to actual oppressed minority groups. Makes you think.
Oh, look, a former staff member wades in just as they start actually talking about the new owners to yet again decry the "toxic users" when it happens to be a single dude being egged on by Kyuuji.

railGUN

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« Reply #4733 on: October 17, 2021, 04:02:03 PM »
Quote
But my assessment either way, this just feels like a trivial issue. PoCs need ways of calling out white supremacy shenanigans. If not crackery, then it needs to be another word. I leave it to the poc community to decide what it should be, but its got to be something.

MOBA executives reading that right now be like :info
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benjipwns

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« Reply #4735 on: October 17, 2021, 04:03:29 PM »
After reading the report, I do get the impression that MOBA has their shit figured out when it comes to growth
I don't think we read the same report. Or the same anything about this company.

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« Reply #4736 on: October 17, 2021, 04:03:32 PM »
Quote
But my assessment either way, this just feels like a trivial issue. PoCs need ways of calling out white supremacy shenanigans. If not crackery, then it needs to be another word. I leave it to the poc community to decide what it should be, but its got to be something.

MOBA executives reading that right now be like :info

what word should whites use when they feel they are being treated unfairly by PoC
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benjipwns

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« Reply #4737 on: October 17, 2021, 04:06:12 PM »
what word should whites use when they feel they are being treated unfairly by PoC
This is not a thing that has ever happened so it's irrelevant.

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« Reply #4738 on: October 17, 2021, 04:09:07 PM »
After reading the report, I do get the impression that MOBA has their shit figured out when it comes to growth
I don't think we read the same report. Or the same anything about this company.
The fastest and most effective way that Moba can increase growth in Resetera traffic is to open registrations.

The second is to stop the "staff" from banning so many people.

They're fucked and they don't even know it.
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benjipwns

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« Reply #4739 on: October 17, 2021, 04:09:22 PM »
Can you guys even read? The users in question have repeatedly stated it’s not about the word - but about how if you’re a mod/a mod buddy, you can shit on someone and call them whatever you want and not get actioned, but as soon as someone not in the mod friend circle does it, they’re banned and told they’re trolling or causing problems.

If anyone other than Morrigan said to a user “shut up, cracker”, let alone to a black user, they’d have been perma banned immediately. Combine this with mods who laughed at suicide, or mods who drove away communities. I don’t see how you can’t get the point these people are making?
Sigh, they've already said multiple times THEY DON'T WANT TO GET PAID.

Now, who wants a custom title?