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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10980 on: January 06, 2022, 08:35:11 PM »
Imagine causing all this chaos over Jason Derulo of all people.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/someone-calls-pop-singer-jason-derulo-usher-as-an-insult-and-gets-a-2-piece-combo-meal-for-lunch-spicy.535289/page-13#post-79769285

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Words have ended in people being murdered.

blahblahblah

Only difference is there's some historical context for why a Black person would be triggered to lash out.

You white folk looking for a reason to feel aggrieved? Nah.
I can't help but read the same energy as I used to see in 'black people are inherently violent' racists. Sure, you're providing what you feel is a justification for why a black person might lash out, but you're still ultimately absolving them of responsibility due to nebulous historical circumstances that might have fuck all bearing on their decision.

I do think racial understanding is moving forwards, but fuck me some of the steps look regressive.

It is very weird to me that royalan has chosen to stake a claim of historical racial context when the easier route to try and excuse all the "talk shit get hit" behavior would be toxic masculinity.
cant accuse black guys of toxic masculinity despite having a huge cultural toxic masculinity problem.

especially rnb singers who can dance, who are a bizarrely protected class (how much dumb shit does chris brown have to do before people get sick of him?)

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10981 on: January 06, 2022, 08:58:02 PM »
You can't expect Black people to be non-violent. That's white supremacist thinking forcing unrealistic standards from white culture on them. Black people are inherently predisposed to violence. That's why they shouldn't be forced to participate in modern capitalism and instead should have a simple life of simple labor on the land in exchange for food, housing and other necessities provided for free. Ideally back in Africa where the land has a form of spiritual call to them.

I am a progressive thinker on race.

NOBODY TAKE THIS POST OUT OF CONTEXT!

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« Reply #10982 on: January 06, 2022, 09:15:51 PM »
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I would love to see some of you all's reaction if someone followed you and your mother, sister, daughter around and called her a "fucking cunt" while you were standing next to them, better if they were trying to put their hands on them at the same time. This "sticks and stones" elementary school pacifist "dealing with bullies" bullshit you're trying to pass is devoid of reality to the point where I doubt those of you using it have ever really been bullied in your lives. Sometimes the only option to deal with a bully is to stand up for yourself and in more extreme cases make them fear you.

"You shouldn't punch someone because they called you a bitch."
"Ok, so you'd let them grope your daughter?"

What is this genius rhetoric device called?  :lol

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10983 on: January 06, 2022, 09:46:20 PM »
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10984 on: January 06, 2022, 09:58:42 PM »
Wkd Box Office • 12/31/2021-01/02/22 • Christian Trash Buries Trans Art, Welcome to 2022
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Is this the original thread title? :lol

https://www.resetera.com/threads/wkd-box-office-•-12-31-2021-01-02-22-•-christian-trash-buries-trans-art-welcome-to-2022.534404/page-3#post-79646336

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The OT is offensive. Trash? Lol that movie has a higher score from fans and critics than Matrix. Matrix was certainly trash though lol

But I guess this is a parody OT? Jokes on me.

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Hi and welcome to the box office threads. We routinely make jokes about the latest releases because honestly it's one of the few ways to keep thread creation entertaining for ourselves in an age when the numbers themselves aren't particularly exciting. As a paint-by-numbers holiday release christian movie in a country that won't stop pretending that white, straight christian morals are under attack, it's a valid target for skewering the story about how a hulking mountain of a main with perfect throwing aim overcame all odds to become a hall of fame QB while thanking Jesus for winning the lottery.

It'll be fine if in one corner of the internet this middling inspirational release aimed at the dominant culture in the United States gets called trash as a gag.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10985 on: January 06, 2022, 10:06:01 PM »
lmao, reading that thread from near the perma ban: https://www.resetera.com/threads/someone-calls-pop-singer-jason-derulo-usher-as-an-insult-and-gets-a-2-piece-combo-meal-for-lunch-spicy.535289/post-79749707
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It does need to be said because people are arguing that provoking people should absolutely be an allowable action towards certain non-violent groups, like Black celebrities.
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If you're not in a position to get into a discussion about race, then you are absolutely unequipped to address the tons of openly-identifying Black folks in here who are not offended with Jason's response, much less the dynamics that have constantly been pointed out in a thread on a majority white forum leveling judgement about the emotional maturity of a Black man who is literally more talented than they are. The sociopolitical dynamics of the world we live in don't magically go away just because you want to vacuously wax about your principles.
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Damn, that should be on every piece of the internet
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The last sentence was exactly the thoughts that I couldn't quite articulate. Too many non-Black people aren't equipped to handle why certain people might be liable to react differently when harassed. Glad to see you and other people call out ERA users for showing their asses as usual on race. Just because I avoid violence doesn't mean the nicca next to me has the exact same mindset. People wildin on this thread, B.
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You would think, after so many years and so many topics, people would be able to detect the undercurrent just based on who's posting without anyone having to just say it.
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Nah, you know that only Black members on this site recognize other Black members, while many others quite literally "don't see color"

The overbearing tone of these threads is so predictable
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People can't fathom that we deal with a sea of racist stupidity on the daily that erodes patience, or that Black people still ain't hot from the protests in 2020. You don't know which nicca has had enough, which is why I stress to leave people alone.
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Every black ERA member knows where this is stemming from, consciously or otherwise.

It perfectly explains why so many in this thread are framing this as if Derulo was the instigator and not the other way around.
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So like, where is this energy even coming from?
You know exactly where it's coming from.
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What gets me, and I usually keep it to myself, is the low keep expectations that Black time, mental health, and bodies are expected to edure bullshit. Especially if they got a little money. "He got cash, he can eat a little shit". Same shit as "Shut up and dribble" but they won't admit it.

The slave chains are gone, but the sense of entitlement isn't.
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Yep. We aren't allowed to be as emotional or as vulnerable as whites, mainly because we all know the validation of our experiences and observations opens up a can of worms, which is that we don't actually have any reason to treat whites and their institutions with any respect or grace. They haven't actually fucking earned it. This relationship is basically just the maintenance of white supremacy.
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But anyways, please do tell me more why physical violence is a justified response…
Because every single ounce of control and power that White Society has amassed over the globe stemmed from unwarranted violence. None of that violence even had a justification and yet look at the results it produced for white people.......

Explain to me how America exists today without the use of violence? How was an entire population of Native people removed from their land without the use of violence?

I never understand moral grandstanding about violence. Fucking especially when coming from White people, ones who gained the most from violence to begin with

You can soapbox and granstand all you want but the simple fact of the matter is Violence is a part of this world and has shaped this world from the beginning of time. You can move through life with love in your heart for everyone and violence could still meet you at your doorstep. The only control you have in that matter is avoiding situations, provocations, and being capable of defending yourself from it.

Quite literally everything else is irrelevant on that topic.
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Wait, so because of racial oppression and violence --- that gives Jason Derulo (or anyone) the right to attack someone insulting them?
Black people have no reason to respect your arbitrary moral codes when all they do is uphold systems of oppression.
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I hope you can recognize the privilege inherent to categorically disclaiming violence in this context.
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"Violence isn't right, I say as I live comfortably in a world built on violence towards people who look suspiciously like the man I'm finger-wagging towards."

Like God, you know how much unbridled crackery it takes to get me to sympathize with Jason fucking Derulo?
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You're supposed to understand that different groups of people are raised by different sets of rules because we live in a shitty society, and these double standards result in different moral outlooks and reactions, and that yours doesn't automatically deserve any sort deference. Like, seriously, you have no authority.

So repeating "So violence is okay?!" as a gotcha only works if everyone has already agreed to your utopic terms. However, to a group of people who experience violence daily without people like you ever coming to their defense (because ultimately colonialist violence is okay to most people on Era), your assumption that all violence is worthy of disgust and condemnation falls on deaf ears to people who live differently, especially in such a mild situation as a dude getting punched for being an asshole.

Literally, everything you've brought to this topic is meaningless because you don't understand- and have refused to understand- the cultural gaps at work (Don't think I missed you calling any dissenting opinion nonsense) because you keep trying to act like this happened in a vacuum. It did not. Jason is Black. Being Black in 2022 means something. You cannot ignore that.

And the funny thing is, you don't even have to agree what Jason did was right!

But you should at least have a basic learning ability to understand why a lot of Black people aren't as offended as you are that he punched someone. And if you're too confused to manage even that basic understanding, then take your advice and bounce. Maybe stew on it for awhile. Reread the thread.
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Have to hand it to the black folk in this thread the sea of bullshit and underhanded intentions is clear as water in here.

the only problem in here is that a black man punched someone in the face in public a successful black man.

people in here with their underhanded intentions veiling it with their thin “excuse” of “toxic masculinity”, or “ physical violence”

Y’all are as clear as water. Applause to the black folk in here seeing shit for what it is.
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Yes, if you randomly get your ass beat yelling fuck you to random people in public. It is 100% your fault. Absolutely.
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Say fuck you to the wrong person on the wrong topic on the wrong day and you can totally be deserving of physical violence.
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This whole "violence is never the acceptable response to any situation" is so dumb. I can think of a 100 situation where someone said some shit and I would absolutely be fine if someone punched them in the face.

The whole "these are just words bro" persona is so fucking disingenuous. Especially while many of these same people wanna pretend they are mental health advocates and want people to be kinder with their speech.

At least don't front. I aint pretending that I think people can get the hands if they talking mad reckless nor that provoking someone then getting slapped the fuck out is not worth empathy.
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Imagine being condescendingly badgered about words just being words by people who are too fragile to confront their racist ass family members for their beliefs lol.
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Goddamn!
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The internet has raised an entire generation of people who think they can say whatever they want to people.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10987 on: January 07, 2022, 01:04:56 AM »
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Wait, so because of racial oppression and violence --- that gives Jason Derulo (or anyone) the right to attack someone insulting them?

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Black people have no reason to respect your arbitrary moral codes when all they do is uphold systems of oppression

How does "Don't assault people over childish insults" count as an oppressive, white, arbitrary moral code?  That will land you in prison in every country on earth.  :lol You crazy for this one, Nep Nep!

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10988 on: January 07, 2022, 02:05:40 AM »
How does "Don't assault people over childish insults" count as an oppressive, white, arbitrary moral code?  That will land you in prison in every country on earth.
Because the colonialist violence of white supremacist capitalism has imposed it on every country. :ufup

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10989 on: January 07, 2022, 08:51:01 AM »
I’d say some shit to NepNep’s face but she would Eddie Gordo my ass.
Oi Oi

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10990 on: January 07, 2022, 08:55:48 AM »
Philosophically, established moral codes are the opposite of arbitrary, they have been codified over generations based on the previous peoples lived experiences.

"Don't assault someone just because they called you a bitch" isn't some new white colonial imposition, it's a small part of how we've been able to maintain larger groups of humans all living and working together for common goals.

You can call laws arbitrary, as they often are, but shared moral values are some of the least arbitrary concepts humans can grasp.

Further, the American system of white supremacy isn't upheld by shared societal morals it is in direct opposition to those morals. That's why the framers of the constitution were so flummoxed by the issue of slavery, these self-evident truths were not compatible with the fact that slavery was accepted normal and ethical.

Nepenthe is just saying things that she thinks sound smart and revolutionary, but she sounds like an idiot. She's just playing Malcom X Madlibs.
« Last Edit: January 07, 2022, 09:00:21 AM by marrec »

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10991 on: January 07, 2022, 09:37:36 AM »
literally, mad libs  :ohhh
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10993 on: January 07, 2022, 10:01:35 AM »
Philosophically, established moral codes are the opposite of arbitrary, they have been codified over generations based on the previous peoples lived experiences.

"Don't assault someone just because they called you a bitch" isn't some new white colonial imposition, it's a small part of how we've been able to maintain larger groups of humans all living and working together for common goals.

You can call laws arbitrary, as they often are, but shared moral values are some of the least arbitrary concepts humans can grasp.

Further, the American system of white supremacy isn't upheld by shared societal morals it is in direct opposition to those morals. That's why the framers of the constitution were so flummoxed by the issue of slavery, these self-evident truths were not compatible with the fact that slavery was accepted normal and ethical.

Nepenthe is just saying things that she thinks sound smart and revolutionary, but she sounds like an idiot. She's just playing Malcom X Madlibs.
To be fair the larger concept of proportionality of justice, or proportional response to an offense is old as society, but the specifics of it vary wildly.

Honor killings for example were a thing not too long ago (and still are in some places).
So you could argue a punch to the face is rightful retribution for a perceived offense to your honor.

That is, if you're ok living in a barbaric society with medieval values.  :)

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10994 on: January 07, 2022, 10:14:37 AM »
Common goals? Y’all ain’t slick.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10995 on: January 07, 2022, 10:46:44 AM »
Philosophically, established moral codes are the opposite of arbitrary, they have been codified over generations based on the previous peoples lived experiences.

"Don't assault someone just because they called you a bitch" isn't some new white colonial imposition, it's a small part of how we've been able to maintain larger groups of humans all living and working together for common goals.

You can call laws arbitrary, as they often are, but shared moral values are some of the least arbitrary concepts humans can grasp.

Further, the American system of white supremacy isn't upheld by shared societal morals it is in direct opposition to those morals. That's why the framers of the constitution were so flummoxed by the issue of slavery, these self-evident truths were not compatible with the fact that slavery was accepted normal and ethical.

Nepenthe is just saying things that she thinks sound smart and revolutionary, but she sounds like an idiot. She's just playing Malcom X Madlibs.
To be fair the larger concept of proportionality of justice, or proportional response to an offense is old as society, but the specifics of it vary wildly.

Honor killings for example were a thing not too long ago (and still are in some places).
So you could argue a punch to the face is rightful retribution for a perceived offense to your honor.

That is, if you're ok living in a barbaric society with medieval values.  :)

To continue down this fun tangent:

Well, even within the moral frameworks that allow for honor killings they are often seen less retributive and more restorative; they are less ad hoc and more ceremonial, having to follow the previously established processes within a religion or other larger controlling superset of moral codes. Of course, that doesn't ever stop people from carrying out this kind of justice in a very ad hoc way with no repercussions because people will warp whatever framework they're following to suit their needs. Punching someone for calling you a bitch may not have always been illegal, but in many times across many cultures it would still be viewed as immoral or uncouth.

For a white colonial example and a non-white colonial example; killing someone in the street for besmirching you would still be seen as a criminal act within 16th Century England, the structural "duel" was not made illegal until the 17th century and even then was still practiced without repercussion for decades after. Even now men in white colonial society will arrange for a time and place to fight and restore honor, even if we don't call these duels the origination is the same.

Today in Pakistan, honor killings are still carried out regularly and normally these killings are done by close family members not because the women have made someone mad, but because some previously established illicit activity has besmirched the honor of the entire family and the only way to restore it is through honor killing which must be carried out in specific ways.

What I'm saying is that Jason Derulo should have found out who this dude was and made this guys Uncle splash him in the face with Acid.

Nep refusal to accept "your" arbitrary moral codes is less about colonial supression and more about her own lack of empathy toward other humans.

 

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10996 on: January 07, 2022, 12:15:49 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/datingera-this-isnt-like-one-of-your-animes.666/page-449#post-79589768

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Do you all hire photographers to get pictures of yourself for dating apps ?

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That might be a last resort if someone doesn't have friends, family, or others who've taken pictures of them. Selfies only can only say so much about a person.

Sex God Messy obviously has much dating app experience from his days on BuyAWife dot com  :teehee
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10997 on: January 07, 2022, 12:31:28 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/datingera-this-isnt-like-one-of-your-animes.666/page-449#post-79589768

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Do you all hire photographers to get pictures of yourself for dating apps ?

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That might be a last resort if someone doesn't have friends, family, or others who've taken pictures of them. Selfies only can only say so much about a person.

Sex God Messy obviously has much dating app experience from his days on BuyAWife dot com  :teehee

To be fair he went on dates, dates accompanied by their parents who likely mostly discussed economics. You know, a typical date.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10998 on: January 07, 2022, 12:36:17 PM »
This outdated customs-shaming is such white privilege. It honestly sickens me.

I'm so tired.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10999 on: January 07, 2022, 01:34:40 PM »
it's honestly pretty fucking  :brain to try and push the idea that philosophical opposition to violence is a "european colonialist" construct, when the most famous and influential proponents of that philosophy are a middle eastern jew, a fat bald asian, and a bespectacled indian

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« Reply #11000 on: January 07, 2022, 01:46:44 PM »
it's honestly pretty fucking  :brain to try and push the idea that philosophical opposition to violence is a "european colonialist" construct, when the most famous and influential proponents of that philosophy are a middle eastern jew, a fat bald asian, and a bespectacled indian

If pressed I'm sure Nep would say that these philosophical concepts are not applied equitably and that white colonial oppressors put higher expectations on black celebrities etc. etc. and while that certainly is the case, I don't think it can be applied in a situation like this where the same type of outrage would be shown if it were Tom Holland or Usher.

Or, at the very least, the concepts of non-violent morality are still valid even if some hick from Texas applies his racism to every situation involving black people.

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« Reply #11001 on: January 07, 2022, 01:55:32 PM »
it's honestly pretty fucking  :brain to try and push the idea that philosophical opposition to violence is a "european colonialist" construct, when the most famous and influential proponents of that philosophy are a middle eastern jew, a fat bald asian, and a bespectacled indian

If pressed I'm sure Nep would say that these philosophical concepts are not applied equitably and that white colonial oppressors put higher expectations on black celebrities etc. etc. and while that certainly is the case, I don't think it can be applied in a situation like this where the same type of outrage would be shown if it were Tom Holland or Usher.

Or, at the very least, the concepts of non-violent morality are still valid even if some hick from Texas applies his racism to every situation involving black people.

I really would love if she would explain what her (absolutely not arbitrary) moral code is without sounding like a raving racist.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #11002 on: January 07, 2022, 02:00:01 PM »

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #11003 on: January 07, 2022, 02:11:05 PM »
https://twitter.com/JohnDiesattheEn/status/1479524941917794309


I feel like this speaks to RE as well

Horseshoe theory isn't actually horseshoe shaped, it's an expression of basic human psychology where despite both sides being on extreme opposite ends of ideology, the people who express these extreme ideas share the fact that they're morons.

Don't even get me started about the fucking LOTR discourse on Twitter right now.

The need to make every M/M relationship in media a homosexual relationship is super fucking toxic and perpetuates toxic masculinity, but they aren't ready to talk about that.

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« Reply #11004 on: January 07, 2022, 02:23:32 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/im-struggling-with-some-known-corruption.536564/
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So, none of this applies to me directly, but the situation kind of makes me sick, and yet at the same time I feel like not bringing it to anyone's attention is the best answer.

Here are the details:

Recently a comic shop donated a ton (like 300-400) comics and other toys to a children's hospital. This was done before Christmas, as a way to give kids trapped in the hospital extra Christmas presents.

The Person who acts as the "Head of Donations" so to speak, is a person with a lot of connections in the city, and because of this, they get a lot of donations rounded up for the hospital.

However, this person also takes advantage of this situation in crummy ways. Those comics that were donated? They gave their significant other first go at the comics. Basically, the comics were sorted and anything "good" was pulled out for someone to add to their personal collection. What remained is what was given to the children.

Now, when I discovered this, it made me sick. The idea that someone would abuse a situation like that is straight up appalling. But here is where I struggle: If this "Head of Donations" was found out and removed, chances are the amount of gross donations made to the hospital for kids would shrink significantly. So basically, them being there, while crummy, does act as a net positive for the children.

So it feels like the answer is to do nothing, because doing so would hurt more than just the perpetrator, every child in that hospital would suffer from it.

I don't have any direct interaction with any of these people, so I have no place to intervene in anyway. Just a situation I am aware of. I've been wrestling with this in my mind for a while and just needed to pour out some thoughts somewhere. I hope I didn't put any of you in a bad mood from this.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #11005 on: January 07, 2022, 02:27:53 PM »
300-400 comics is a ton?

I have like 100 sitting in a box being dripped on with water.

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« Reply #11006 on: January 07, 2022, 02:33:25 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/channel-5-q-shaman-prison-interview.536060/#post-79803395
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This guy is getting forced fed Turkey Gravy up his asshole in prison.
No ban for prison rape jokes?

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« Reply #11007 on: January 07, 2022, 02:36:10 PM »
https://twitter.com/JohnDiesattheEn/status/1479524941917794309


I feel like this speaks to RE as well

Horseshoe theory isn't actually horseshoe shaped, it's an expression of basic human psychology where despite both sides being on extreme opposite ends of ideology, the people who express these extreme ideas share the fact that they're morons.

Don't even get me started about the fucking LOTR discourse on Twitter right now.

The need to make every M/M relationship in media a homosexual relationship is super fucking toxic and perpetuates toxic masculinity, but they aren't ready to talk about that.

I think it makes sense though, why else would Gandalf think that Frodo was the best choice when it came to destroying rings?


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« Reply #11008 on: January 07, 2022, 02:59:54 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/channel-5-q-shaman-prison-interview.536060/#post-79803395
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This guy is getting forced fed Turkey Gravy up his asshole in prison.
No ban for prison rape jokes?

When it's made at the expense of the Q peeps mods be like :larry

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #11009 on: January 07, 2022, 04:01:31 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/im-struggling-with-some-known-corruption.536564/
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So, none of this applies to me directly, but the situation kind of makes me sick, and yet at the same time I feel like not bringing it to anyone's attention is the best answer.

Here are the details:

Recently a comic shop donated a ton (like 300-400) comics and other toys to a children's hospital. This was done before Christmas, as a way to give kids trapped in the hospital extra Christmas presents.

The Person who acts as the "Head of Donations" so to speak, is a person with a lot of connections in the city, and because of this, they get a lot of donations rounded up for the hospital.

However, this person also takes advantage of this situation in crummy ways. Those comics that were donated? They gave their significant other first go at the comics. Basically, the comics were sorted and anything "good" was pulled out for someone to add to their personal collection. What remained is what was given to the children.

Now, when I discovered this, it made me sick. The idea that someone would abuse a situation like that is straight up appalling. But here is where I struggle: If this "Head of Donations" was found out and removed, chances are the amount of gross donations made to the hospital for kids would shrink significantly. So basically, them being there, while crummy, does act as a net positive for the children.

So it feels like the answer is to do nothing, because doing so would hurt more than just the perpetrator, every child in that hospital would suffer from it.

I don't have any direct interaction with any of these people, so I have no place to intervene in anyway. Just a situation I am aware of. I've been wrestling with this in my mind for a while and just needed to pour out some thoughts somewhere. I hope I didn't put any of you in a bad mood from this.

I was gonna  :mindblown at this but this post said everything I was thinking

Quote from: Osu 16 Bit, Verified developer at NetherRealm Studios
How do you know this is happening? Are you absolutely positive? Why are you in a position to know this is a fact but have no way of talking to them directly about it?

Like, are we saying they're taking 2 or 3 low value books and giving them to someone? That's not good, but pretty harmless. Maybe the comic shop owner knows them and actually says here are some books, take a few for yourself then you can just give the rest to the kids. Or are they finding valuable books? If that's the case perhaps they take those out of the collection for the kids and are doing something more appropriate and valuable for the hospital. Basically, how sure are you there's not a reasonable explination?

of course it has gone completely ignored and everyone keeps pulling faces about how "it's so awful"

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« Reply #11010 on: January 07, 2022, 04:47:57 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/me-uses-clearly-british-scottish-terminology-era-assumed-us-based-because-reasons.536558/
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This is more of a humorous version (I hope so anyway) of something I brought up last year, but so often I write threads and posts and usd clearly British terminology but those replying still assume the US.

There is also another gripe here which ties into this point, which is the fact that shows that some users just flat out do not read the OP.

So many times time I will clearly mention a specific thing in my list and users will bring it up like I am unaware of it. Motherfucker, if you took the time to read fully before replying I wouldn’t have to waste my time with replies bringing up points I originally mentioned.

Now that I have finished my wee rant, I’m gaun tae hae a look through my cupboards, find some skran tae eat fer ma denner, then efter that ah’m going to get properly fucking pished. Enjoy your weekend, ERA.

Edit: Autocorrect hates Scottish slang, what a surprise, I had to undo so many corrections for that last part.
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« Reply #11011 on: January 07, 2022, 05:01:32 PM »
it's honestly pretty fucking  :brain to try and push the idea that philosophical opposition to violence is a "european colonialist" construct, when the most famous and influential proponents of that philosophy are a middle eastern jew, a fat bald asian, and a bespectacled indian

If pressed I'm sure Nep would say that these philosophical concepts are not applied equitably and that white colonial oppressors put higher expectations on black celebrities etc. etc. and while that certainly is the case, I don't think it can be applied in a situation like this where the same type of outrage would be shown if it were Tom Holland or Usher.

Or, at the very least, the concepts of non-violent morality are still valid even if some hick from Texas applies his racism to every situation involving black people.

I really would love if she would explain what her (absolutely not arbitrary) moral code is without sounding like a raving racist.
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« Reply #11012 on: January 07, 2022, 05:03:17 PM »
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a lot of these kids don't have a "long run" ahead of them.


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« Reply #11014 on: January 07, 2022, 08:11:39 PM »
I've often seen YouTube arseholes hyping LootCrate and wondered who would be dumb enough to sub to them. Turned out it was this dick -

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I ordered a Crate back in early October because I liked the little Pyramid Head figure. Was supposed to ship end of October, well that comes and goes, then they update the shipping date to mid-November. Then, early to mid December. Then late December-early January. Now it's mid-late January and I don't see how it won't just get pushed back again. It's a monthly subscription as well, so they have the gall to continue charging people every month for items that a customer may not even see for months.

I read through their customer support twitter and there seem to be plenty of people who haven't received anything for like 8 months! I have no idea how this company is allowed to be in business.

I just hope this serves as warning for people, do not ever sign up for them.


https://www.resetera.com/threads/so-loot-crate-is-kind-of-a-scam-yeah.536621/

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« Reply #11015 on: January 07, 2022, 08:20:19 PM »
What did we do to deserve these Marrec gems? He’s posting banger after banger, almost benji-esque.
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« Reply #11016 on: January 07, 2022, 08:40:15 PM »
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So, none of this applies to me directly, but the situation kind of makes me sick, and yet at the same time I feel like not bringing it to anyone's attention is the best answer.

Here are the details:

Recently a comic shop donated a ton (like 300-400) comics and other toys to a children's hospital. This was done before Christmas, as a way to give kids trapped in the hospital extra Christmas presents.

The Person who acts as the "Head of Donations" so to speak, is a person with a lot of connections in the city, and because of this, they get a lot of donations rounded up for the hospital.

However, this person also takes advantage of this situation in crummy ways. Those comics that were donated? They gave their significant other first go at the comics. Basically, the comics were sorted and anything "good" was pulled out for someone to add to their personal collection. What remained is what was given to the children.

Now, when I discovered this, it made me sick. The idea that someone would abuse a situation like that is straight up appalling. But here is where I struggle: If this "Head of Donations" was found out and removed, chances are the amount of gross donations made to the hospital for kids would shrink significantly. So basically, them being there, while crummy, does act as a net positive for the children.

So it feels like the answer is to do nothing, because doing so would hurt more than just the perpetrator, every child in that hospital would suffer from it.

I don't have any direct interaction with any of these people, so I have no place to intervene in anyway. Just a situation I am aware of. I've been wrestling with this in my mind for a while and just needed to pour out some thoughts somewhere. I hope I didn't put any of you in a bad mood from this.
The answer is to eliminate capitalism and colonialism so everyone can have as many comics as they want while never needing to go to the hospital. :curious

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« Reply #11017 on: January 07, 2022, 08:43:16 PM »
What did we do to deserve these Marrec gems? He’s posting banger after banger, almost benji-esque.

He's been radicalized by Fox News
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« Reply #11018 on: January 07, 2022, 08:43:43 PM »
I really would love if she would explain what her (absolutely not arbitrary) moral code is without sounding like a raving racist.
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« Reply #11019 on: January 07, 2022, 08:46:54 PM »
What did we do to deserve these Marrec gems? He’s posting banger after banger, almost benji-esque.

He's been radicalized by Fox News
He claimed to just be watching it for the transphobic content and now look at him.

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« Reply #11020 on: January 07, 2022, 09:20:03 PM »
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#1 reason I dislike character creators. I would rather just play as a generic white guy (not like there isn't a shortage of those) than be belittled by a game developer that says that the character creator is to "put yourself in the game"

https://www.resetera.com/threads/black-artists-are-creating-an-open-source-database-of-3d-modeled-black-hairstyles-set-to-launch-on-juneteenth-2023.536717/#post-79884914

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« Reply #11021 on: January 07, 2022, 09:32:30 PM »
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#1 reason I dislike character creators. I would rather just play as a generic white guy (not like there isn't a shortage of those) than be belittled by a game developer that says that the character creator is to "put yourself in the game"

https://www.resetera.com/threads/black-artists-are-creating-an-open-source-database-of-3d-modeled-black-hairstyles-set-to-launch-on-juneteenth-2023.536717/#post-79884914

For many of them, it is never enough. Or they just move the goalpost to make up an excuse to complain and assume hidden malicious intent only they can see.

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« Reply #11022 on: January 07, 2022, 09:43:19 PM »
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#1 reason I dislike character creators. I would rather just play as a generic white guy (not like there isn't a shortage of those) than be belittled by a game developer that says that the character creator is to "put yourself in the game"

https://www.resetera.com/threads/black-artists-are-creating-an-open-source-database-of-3d-modeled-black-hairstyles-set-to-launch-on-juneteenth-2023.536717/#post-79884914

For many of them, it is never enough. Or they just move the goalpost to make up an excuse to complain and assume hidden malicious intent only they can see.

That last one is the one that pisses me off, they thinking all of that is malicious, specially when it comes from Japanese devs.

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Not strictly limited to skin colour, but very clearly designed to stick closely to the preset with a little bit of tweaking. Also a game where if you don't use the preset "black" face, any other face with a darker skin colour winds up looking like an alien.

Also I sure as hell am not giving Japanese games any sort of slack. Why the fuck should I? This aint 1960. I'm sure they can use the internet and google what black people look like right? Japan aint so homogeneous that these people aint never seen a black person in their life anyways.

 :lol :lol :lol

Yes, Japan is THAT homogeneous, have you seen how nightmarish is their immigration policies? I bet many rJapanese persons from rural communities have never seen a black dude outside of TV.

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But I know how it is. I know about Terra Formars. I know about them Eyeshield 21 and Hajime no Ippo "black muscles" that never gets called out so whatever.

Terra Formars is the only one of your examples that is unapologetic in its blackface... and people bitch about it all the time when is in conversation, so it gets called out. The other is just sports manga using pseudoscience to explain shit concepts, some concepts that even BCT believes on.

Yes, Japanese devs should know better at this point, but why act like it is malicious or to belittle you.

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« Reply #11023 on: January 07, 2022, 09:51:43 PM »
Controversial Steam Best Seller Ready Or Not Is An Unsettling SWAT Fantasy
Tactical gunplay and edgy copaganda mix in Void Interactive’s incomplete shooter

Ready or Not is a tactical horror game where you creep through sprawling mazes of American decay searching for violent suspects amidst cowering bystanders. Steam currently loves it, but after spending a few hours with it I can’t say I do. At its best it’s an admirably tense puzzle game punctuated by twitchy shootouts, but it’s also a violent political fantasy with no capacity for self-interrogation.

...

 Ready or Not’s realism is effective enough to disturb but too shallow not to descend into farce, or worse, Blue Lives Matter cosplay with fascist overtones and alt-right dog whistles.

An easter egg in the game’s starting headquarters area consists of a discarded “red pill” box in a trash can with the words “Noggin Joggers” on the side, which some have interpreted as 4chan-speak for the N-word (Void Interactive did not immediately respond to a request for comment to clarify the intended meaning. Update: the studio’s response has been added below). Elsewhere a box of Vitamin D supplements for “Bonor Health” from “Whore Foods” sits on a table next to spare ammunition, while another vitamin box references the Pepe meme. There’s also the now infamous “Anal Staircase” sign from one of the game’s old trailers which belongs to an upcoming sex club level.

Random bystanders have only a few recorded lines they’ll bark at you at the moment, one of which is, “My mom has a Mexican maid, you might know her.” There’s already a “Mute Cringey Voice Lines” mod to remove it, though Void Interactive announced it also plans to replace it in a later update. Then there’s the law and order ideology that frames the rest of the game. America is on the brink. Crime is at an all-time high. It can’t be fixed, only subdued. The game trains you to fear everyone you meet, not as commentary but as wish-fulfillment, and with seemingly no awareness of the nation’s recent reckoning with an epidemic of police killings.

Amidst these disorienting tonal shifts, which range from the juvenile to the openly racist, there are incredibly grim moments like when you come across a child writhing in pain in her pink bedroom. “Wounded civilian clear and prepped for evac,” your SWAT officer says in his RoboCop voice. Whether because Ready or Not remains an incredibly barebones Early Access game or because Void Interactive lacks the sophistication, it makes the entire affair feel crass and exploitative.

That hasn’t stopped Ready or Die from receiving a flood of positive user-reviews praising the game on Steam. Some no doubt because they see in it the seeds of a faithful successor to the old SWAT games, and thus a return to the kind of slow, tactical, claustrophobic gunplay that even games like Rainbow Six Siege have mostly abandoned. Others likely because of the way it drapes that gameplay in strong-man cop worship (there are no female police in the game yet) and provides a neat and tidy way to counter one system of violence with another.

...

Update: 1/7/21, 9:43 a.m. ET: Void Interactive issued the following statement to Kotaku regarding some of the references contained in Ready or Not.

https://twitter.com/VOIDInteractive/status/1479304331270762508
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« Reply #11024 on: January 07, 2022, 09:56:35 PM »
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#1 reason I dislike character creators. I would rather just play as a generic white guy (not like there isn't a shortage of those) than be belittled by a game developer that says that the character creator is to "put yourself in the game"

https://www.resetera.com/threads/black-artists-are-creating-an-open-source-database-of-3d-modeled-black-hairstyles-set-to-launch-on-juneteenth-2023.536717/#post-79884914

For many of them, it is never enough. Or they just move the goalpost to make up an excuse to complain and assume hidden malicious intent only they can see.

entire thread is predicated on "I just want to make characters who look like me, realistic hairstyles that I actually see on the street" and then the hair database is like





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« Reply #11025 on: January 07, 2022, 10:09:40 PM »
"hey era, i have evidence that a guy i know is cheating on his wife, what should i do?"

Era - "mind your own fucking business!"

"hey era, a guy gave away a few comics out of the hundreds he is donating to a children's hospital, what should i do?"

Era - "Report his fucking ass!"

Jesus they are all garbage humans.

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« Reply #11026 on: January 07, 2022, 10:23:15 PM »
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An easter egg in the game’s starting headquarters area consists of a discarded “red pill” box in a trash can with the words “Noggin Joggers” on the side, which some have interpreted as 4chan-speak for the N-word

Wat?

Also I'm surprised it took them so long to come for that game. These are after all the same people who were upset that Spiderman worked with the police. A swat simulator is never, ever going to be okay with them

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« Reply #11027 on: January 07, 2022, 10:25:29 PM »
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#1 reason I dislike character creators. I would rather just play as a generic white guy (not like there isn't a shortage of those) than be belittled by a game developer that says that the character creator is to "put yourself in the game"

https://www.resetera.com/threads/black-artists-are-creating-an-open-source-database-of-3d-modeled-black-hairstyles-set-to-launch-on-juneteenth-2023.536717/#post-79884914

For many of them, it is never enough. Or they just move the goalpost to make up an excuse to complain and assume hidden malicious intent only they can see.

entire thread is predicated on "I just want to make characters who look like me, realistic hairstyles that I actually see on the street" and then the hair database is like

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More like the Wachowski hair database

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« Reply #11028 on: January 08, 2022, 12:43:44 AM »
I've often seen YouTube arseholes hyping LootCrate and wondered who would be dumb enough to sub to them. Turned out it was this dick -

Quote from: author RedMercury
I ordered a Crate back in early October because I liked the little Pyramid Head figure. Was supposed to ship end of October, well that comes and goes, then they update the shipping date to mid-November. Then, early to mid December. Then late December-early January. Now it's mid-late January and I don't see how it won't just get pushed back again. It's a monthly subscription as well, so they have the gall to continue charging people every month for items that a customer may not even see for months.

I read through their customer support twitter and there seem to be plenty of people who haven't received anything for like 8 months! I have no idea how this company is allowed to be in business.

I just hope this serves as warning for people, do not ever sign up for them.


https://www.resetera.com/threads/so-loot-crate-is-kind-of-a-scam-yeah.536621/

Remember that weird time on the internet when EVERYTHING was a subscription box? Youtube used to hock the nerdy ones to me all the time until they all just died at the exact same time.

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« Reply #11029 on: January 08, 2022, 12:54:11 AM »
I didn't even know Loot Crate was still around, I thought they went out of business already. Everybody on Youtube was doing unboxings 5 years ago, then it just all died out.

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« Reply #11030 on: January 08, 2022, 01:27:20 AM »
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Nah just not for me. Too goofy often.
In other words
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« Reply #11031 on: January 08, 2022, 01:40:03 AM »

entire thread is predicated on "I just want to make characters who look like me, realistic hairstyles that I actually see on the street" and then the hair database is like

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Not only that, at least half the styles pictured would also be totally impractical to implement in a game that isn't Sims 4. They look like typical Zbrush artist designs, artists who have no fucking clue how game assets work. Fine for a static render or turntable for your Twitter, Instagram or Artstation portfolio, but that's about it.

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« Reply #11032 on: January 08, 2022, 01:51:28 AM »
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Then there’s the law and order ideology that frames the rest of the game. America is on the brink. Crime is at an all-time high. It can’t be fixed, only subdued.
Honestly the whole article is usual Kotaku dogshit riding on the latest controversy, but this line in particular, what does it even mean? Do they even understand what the point of a tactical unit is? The game's mostly comprised of hostage situations and active shooter situations... should you send in Bernie Sanders waving around a crime-reform bill to handle them?

It's the usual emotionally charged use of language, to hide a complete lack of argumentation, they don't even know what the problem with the game is, aside from a vague "the devs aren't equipped to handle this" and a couple of minor joke easter eggs (the horror).

I wonder if it were ZERO-HOUR to have blown up like this, whether or not it would've made the news; or is the fact that Ready or Not is set in the US (instead of Bangladesh) to be the point of contention.
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« Reply #11033 on: January 08, 2022, 06:25:37 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/harry-potter-ebooks-purchased-from-pottermore-will-not-be-available-for-download-after-1-31-22-fuck-jkr.536744/

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Fuck J.K. Rowling and her transphobic views. This is NOT a thread to promote JKR, her views or the Wizarding World franchise, it is for informational purposes.
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Fuck J.K. Rowling.

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« Reply #11034 on: January 08, 2022, 06:30:36 AM »
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While I 100% agree with eliminating any platform Rowling has for her to spew her TERF venom, it *is* possible to separate an artist from their work. Hate Rowling, sure, but the HP books were an important cultural touchstone and inspired many people (myself included) to pursue reading and writing as a form of expression.

It’s hard to read the books anymore knowing who Rowling is or care about the HP world going forward (I don’t), but their impact can’t be denied.

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Sorry but no. She explicitly uses the money and fame from those books to hurt people like me. And it has been documented how what she does explicitly has a real world impact. The U.K. Literally had a groundbreaking law that would have been unprecedented anywhere in its protection of trans people and it had the support of the general public and it was literally taken off the table at the 11th hour and more than one government official has outright said her and the movement she has inspired is literally one of the bigger reasons they tanked it.

there is no separating and I don’t care how many people it inspired when the clout those books have given her has led to her leading the charge to literally erase people like me from existence.

if you can still support her in anyway or form you also support the movement since they are inseparable  to either push all of us transgender people back in the closet at best, genocide us really. I was going to say at worse but the “best case “ scenario is still a genocide because not only does it push for us to not be validated, but it is a proven medical and scientific fact that the only thing that leads to lower suicide rates is acceptance and medical transition.

And that’s only the tip of the iceberg of real world negative affects that can be traced right back to her.

Besides the “ literacy“ argument is overstated as it is. Kids are more literate than ever, they read and write more than they ever have in the past, it’s just they are not doing it engaging with novels instead it’s texting and internet.

But if your going to argue separating art from the artist over a disengenious literacy issue over how the popularity of her work has led to her directly emboldening a movement that won’t be happy until people like me are either invisible or dead no amount of saying she should be deplatformed ( which your not really arguing for if your defending her books) or saying she is a terf and is bad changes the fact your not being an ally if you even consider yourself one.

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Just seeing the edit now because I wanted to think on it, and I really do hate even in instances like this that I can be so abrasive. It’s just as you yourself know it’s not a mental exercise for me. It’s my life and sadly enough in this day and age my safety up to and including my life. It seems like I have to point this out way too often that we are one of the few marginalized groups that still to this day are so unsafe and at risk that even during our pride week, which should be all about celebration and acceptance and love, we have to specifically take a day just to read a list of all of those of us that were murdered the previous year literally just for existing.

And yes I try not to bring this up and I have no interest in oppression Olympics especially considering that non-White members of our community are literally at the highest risk of violence than any other marginalized/minority group in the world, but it seriously amazes me the amount of stuff people are willing to say and on the other hand goes unactioned through moderation that if it was about just about any other group wouldn’t be said and if it was the person saying would be getting the permanent ban hammer.

And all over some books about a wizard aimed at tweens and teens, because that’s not an oversaturated genre that you can find a book like just by throwing a rock in the youth section of your local library.

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I figured you weren’t criticizing, it’s just something I am working on, my therapist hears about it all the time and I am goiGN to share here on era even though I normally wouldn’t, and hopefully some of the people who have issues with my posting style because of it and can get a look in why being closeted when you know is so mentally exhausting, and how it affects one, ine this case me.

I am not naturally competitive and when it comes to things like that and physical horseplay I am pretty traditionally girly girl feminine. But I was born in 77 so those “ formative years” were in the late eighties early nineties. I grew up with an extended family that is ultra right wing, racist, sexist, and heavily into the types of churches that are now known as the evangelical white American Christian ( I always like to point out that while my mother never made me or my brother participate with our belongings we still had to at least go so I have been to more than one book, comics, cd’s, movies, basically anything they could justify as being satanic or bad- so throw anything that was explicitly not racist, sexist, critical of American government on the list-burnings where they would have a bonfire and make each kid throw whatever had been deemed satanic that week that they owned into the fire) which beyond my point is part of why I didn’t decide to come out until I was 43 and even being out and excited to transition, off drugs and the happiest I have been in years I still struggle daily with feeling of self loathing and hatred, all unearned but instilled in me by the world around me (which is right where Rowling wants me to be and she pushes a philosophy that manifests I the real world of trying to make us all feel like that trying to push us back in the closet or kill ourselves). So I stayed in teh closet and tried to be male, which meant pretending to be competitive and act like being touched didn’t make me physically ill.

So while I tried as hard as I could to blend in not only was it fake but I dont understand why boys are like that in 5he way they are, which figured because I am not a boy and never was and it’s not in my nature, so instead of actually blending in and fitting it ended up coming off like a Saturday morning mustache twirling villian sort of thing, and I really just ended up being an abrasive asshole who always had to get the first, last and most hurtful word in. Add in that I am a catty bitch to begin with and you get a confrontational Personality the equal of biting tinfoil.

so even though it wasn’t my natural state or behavior, faking it and using that as a defense mechanism for 40 odd years made it ingrained enough that even without the need for it it’s become second nature. And I hate it so I am working with my therapist to unlearn it and I can start approaching the world, especially in instances like this that I feel call for a response in a more natural way that even though it would make my point and stand up for myself isn’t needlessly confrontational for no reason other than “ that’s what I have seen men do”.

I hope that clears up why I feel that way and gives anyone lurking just reading that is cis some understanding of both whyI am so abrasive, but even more more importantly what being in the closet does to some of us, the toll it takes and the damage and wreckage we have to navigate when we come out, and most importantly the harm trying to deny us our validity and genuine existence something Rowling promotes using money from her books and the platform she only has because of her books’ inflict upon us. That’s just a taste of my personal issues and the damage that has been done, all the harm the closet did to me, especially as someone who has known what they are before they even had words to describe it, all because of my fear of my family and the world , just for being who I am.

So it’s hard for me not to go off, and while I may not like how I did it I make no apology for getting upset and going off even if I wish I had done it differently, because she will try as hard as she can to use her money and fame that she only has from HP to not only try and erase me and put me back in the hell hole that was my closet ( and honestly, especially because of my addiction which is 100% because I was in the closet and trying to get so high I would just forget I was transgender, if I stayed in the closet or were to go back in guaranteed I am dead within a year or two) she wants that fate for all trans people.

Maybe it’s good I got so personal, I mean a lot of cis people, even ones that genuinely care just don’t get it, so hopefully this makes it clear, it’s not “identity politics” or “ my hurt feelings” it is for a lot of us a matter of life or death, and Rowling literally wants us to choose death and she uses both her money and fame to try and achieve that goal, and it’s clear enough at this point that if you know all she is done and you can still defend her your at best okay with that, and I’ll give the side eye because I am sure more than a small minority of people that know and still defend her actually agree with her.

Ill stop ranting now but yeah, when it’s a matter of my life or death I will have a problem with it, and that’s just how it has to be because beyond everything elseI have decided to be myself and love myself and that’s a hill I am willing to die on.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #11035 on: January 08, 2022, 06:35:22 AM »
"Maybe it’s good I got so personal, I mean a lot of cis people, even ones that genuinely care just don’t get it, so hopefully this makes it clear, it’s not “identity politics” or “ my hurt feelings” it is for a lot of us a matter of life or death, and Rowling literally wants us to choose death"

Finally a reasonable take.

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« Reply #11036 on: January 08, 2022, 07:17:56 AM »
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Kids are more literate than ever, they read and write more than they ever have in the past, it’s just they are not doing it engaging with novels instead it’s texting and internet.

But if your going to argue separating art from the artist over a disengenious literacy issue over how the popularity of her work has led to her directly emboldening a movement that won’t be happy until people like me are either invisible or dead no amount of saying she should be deplatformed ( which your not really arguing for if your defending her books) or saying she is a terf and is bad changes the fact your not being an ally if you even consider yourself one.

 :hhh

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« Reply #11037 on: January 08, 2022, 08:07:16 AM »
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Kids are more literate than ever, they read and write more than they ever have in the past, it’s just they are not doing it engaging with novels instead it’s texting and internet.

But if your going to argue separating art from the artist over a disengenious literacy issue over how the popularity of her work has led to her directly emboldening a movement that won’t be happy until people like me are either invisible or dead no amount of saying she should be deplatformed ( which your not really arguing for if your defending her books) or saying she is a terf and is bad changes the fact your not being an ally if you even consider yourself one.

 :hhh

Don't forget "disengenious" and that ridiculous run-on sentence at the end.  Very literate, indeed.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #11038 on: January 08, 2022, 08:37:27 AM »
Let's not forget about that time JK Rowling put 6 million banking goblins on the Hogwarts Express to hell.

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« Reply #11039 on: January 08, 2022, 09:43:09 AM »
genocide