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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #15240 on: March 18, 2022, 06:20:43 PM »
Does that Ori guy still post on Ree regularly?  If so, witch hunters ‘bout to eat.

https://venturebeat.com/2022/03/18/despite-its-beautiful-ori-games-moon-studio-is-called-an-oppressive-place-to-work/
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Welp, guess I’m not buying the Ori games.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #15241 on: March 18, 2022, 06:29:08 PM »
That guy has a point.  Nobody gives a shit about women's sports.  Fill them up with trans athletes, I'm bored of women being unable to do a simple give and go.  Let them show them how it's done.
FACT CHECK: No, you need some cis women.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #15242 on: March 18, 2022, 07:11:20 PM »
These threads never go well.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/amid-protests-penn-swimmer-lia-thomas-becomes-first-known-transgender-athlete-to-win-division-i-national-championship.563851/

I've only seen this pic going around and... yeah

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(The ones who placed second, third and fourth having their own little celebration)

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Ranking significantly lower in the mens division, if anything, means that she was physically disadvantaged because she isn't cis-male and was in the wrong division.

 :science

I kind of like how she's all, "yeah, I'm a woman, I swom with womens.  Deal."  Despite all the shit she get's she just goes for it.


I love how bad all their arguments in favor of it are. Just tell cis women to get the fuck over it, trans women are better at being women swimmers than they are. Deal with it.

And I agree with this.  It's a subject matter I'd prefer not to be informed of so I don't have to form an opinion.  Blissful ignorance.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #15243 on: March 18, 2022, 07:29:49 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/anyone-here-been-to-canc%C3%BAn-looking-for-advice-suggestions.562918/#post-83739763

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Make sure to take a bulletproof vest -

That's ridiculous. By that same token I guess don't go anywhere in the US as there are mass shootings on an almost daily basis. You are twice as likely to get shot dead in the US than in Mexico. So fuck off with this racist ass fear mongering.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/gun-deaths-by-country

Countries with the Highest Total Gun Deaths (all causes) in 2019

    Brazil (49436)
    United States (37038)
    Venezuela (28515)
    Mexico (22116)
    India (14710)
    Colombia (13169)
    Philippines (9267)
    Guatemala (5980)


Anyway, I'd also highly recommend Tulum. Absolutely the most beautiful beaches I've seen in Mexico. Fish just swimming around your feet while you drink in the ocean.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #15244 on: March 18, 2022, 08:20:43 PM »
Men compete in mens sports.

Women compete in women's sports.

Trans compete in trans sports.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #15246 on: March 18, 2022, 08:47:48 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/anyone-here-been-to-canc%C3%BAn-looking-for-advice-suggestions.562918/#post-83739763

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Make sure to take a bulletproof vest -

That's ridiculous. By that same token I guess don't go anywhere in the US as there are mass shootings on an almost daily basis. You are twice as likely to get shot dead in the US than in Mexico. So fuck off with this racist ass fear mongering.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/gun-deaths-by-country

Countries with the Highest Total Gun Deaths (all causes) in 2019

    Brazil (49436)
    United States (37038)
    Venezuela (28515)
    Mexico (22116)
    India (14710)
    Colombia (13169)
    Philippines (9267)
    Guatemala (5980)


Anyway, I'd also highly recommend Tulum. Absolutely the most beautiful beaches I've seen in Mexico. Fish just swimming around your feet while you drink in the ocean.

That’s not what those numbers say, at all though.  If you want to know how safe an environment is regarding gun violence you probably need to take out the suicide numbers and just leave the accidental deaths and homicides.  Turns out America’s 7.42 gun related suicides per 100k people significantly skews the overall numbers compared to Mexico’s 0.44 per 100k population.  As far as homicides go you’re looking at 6.34/100k for Mexico and 4.46/100k for the US.

Frankly I wouldn’t have banned him for hostility, I’d have banned him for not being able to read a simple fucking chart :trumps

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #15247 on: March 18, 2022, 10:03:32 PM »
https://twitter.com/SportIsARight/status/1504897643259912192

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #15248 on: March 18, 2022, 10:18:14 PM »
« Last Edit: March 18, 2022, 11:30:36 PM by BisMarckie »

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #15249 on: March 18, 2022, 10:35:54 PM »
NEVER ADMIT YOU'RE WRONG!

In fact it's their fault that you were wrong!

Edit:she pinned the tweet where she calls for an investigation  :lol

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #15250 on: March 18, 2022, 10:43:11 PM »

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« Reply #15251 on: March 18, 2022, 10:50:01 PM »
The problem with virtue signaling is that it always highlights what you don't stand up for.

Like RE never changing the logo to a Ukraine flag and celebrating Elden Ring for three weeks now

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« Reply #15252 on: March 18, 2022, 11:13:39 PM »
Kudos if they stay committed. Current record is the boycott against Blizzard. Only lasted that one week when people cared about Hong Kong. Not everyone possesses the mental fortitude of the angry video game nerd boycotting ghostbusters.

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« Reply #15253 on: March 18, 2022, 11:58:35 PM »
the thing that is most important to remember is that trans women ARE women

so this is a historic moment featuring the first woman to win an NCAA swimming competition; previously, while other wins had been awarded to women, no woman had yet won one of these

it's an important moment for women everywhere, and it will be exciting to eventually see the day when all women's sporting records are held by women, rather than women

proving once again that women are simply inferior to women and lack the backbone and conviction necessary to defend spaces they once perceived as theirs
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« Reply #15254 on: March 19, 2022, 12:48:34 AM »
the thing that is most important to remember is that trans women ARE women

so this is a historic moment featuring the first woman to win an NCAA swimming competition; previously, while other wins had been awarded to women, no woman had yet won one of these

it's an important moment for women everywhere, and it will be exciting to eventually see the day when all women's sporting records are held by women, rather than women

proving once again that women are simply inferior to women and lack the backbone and conviction necessary to defend spaces they once perceived as theirs

The backbone density maybe :teehee

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« Reply #15255 on: March 19, 2022, 01:06:02 AM »
User Banned (1 Week): Concern trolling, previous warn for trolling

Thread titles like this are exactly what they’re writing about. Instead of having a discussion of the subject you just flame and shame because you know most people that post here will agree with you.
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« Reply #15256 on: March 19, 2022, 01:53:34 AM »
That guy has a point.  Nobody gives a shit about women's sports.  Fill them up with trans athletes, I'm bored of women being unable to do a simple give and go.  Let them show them how it's done.
FACT CHECK: No, you need some cis women.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #15257 on: March 19, 2022, 04:09:04 AM »

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« Reply #15258 on: March 19, 2022, 04:38:26 AM »
« Last Edit: March 19, 2022, 04:42:47 AM by Potato »
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #15259 on: March 19, 2022, 04:39:22 AM »
"Broken bones: UK rugby referees quitting after bearded transgender players injure women"

"Transgender MMA Fighter Fallon Fox beat her female opponent Tamika Brents so severely that she suffered a broken skull."

Those women are basically just transphobes.


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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #15260 on: March 19, 2022, 04:39:43 AM »
Matildas lose to team of Newcastle Jets teenagers, prompting backlash from pundits

More from the annals of men being afraid of women's dominance in sport.

U14 team from one of our local clubs smashed the senior women's national team 7-0 in a friendly which didn't even last the regulation 90 minutes.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #15261 on: March 19, 2022, 05:05:25 AM »
Ah, so sports are segregated to protect men from women winning everything. Of course.

I’m entirely in favour of desegregating sports where men’s size, strength, speed and weight advantages won’t lead to them winning everything, but if you look at the Olympic categories that’s maybe two events — equestrian and shooting.

Ones where the format allows for mixed teams should have mixed events… and they increasingly do. Like the mixed 4x100 relay at the Tokyo Olympics. And the countries that dominate the men’s events but are suddenly nowhere to be seen in the mixed ones should be made to to have a long look at the resources they give to women’s sports.

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« Reply #15262 on: March 19, 2022, 05:58:41 AM »
https://twitter.com/imranzomg/status/1504572336820744199

He'll change his tune when he gets a marriage arranged to a dude in a dress.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #15263 on: March 19, 2022, 07:26:10 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/elden-ring-vs-horizon-forbidden-west-which-will-be-the-best-selling-game.537143/page-27#post-83892124

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I am shocked ER has sold as well as it did and even pushed Horizon Forbidden West into obscurity. All signs were Horizon was the more mainstream game with the usual mainstream features. Dark Souls games have never sold well because of their niche features. IMO we should treat that 12 million sales with a grain of salt. It’s likely the Game of thrones viewer base consisting of casuals bought the game due to association with GRRM and once they find out how frustrating the enemies are and how it’s not a typical video game, there would be huge refunds.



We need to know how many of those 12 million were refunded because logically Horizon should outsell ER handily.



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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #15264 on: March 19, 2022, 08:56:14 AM »
https://twitter.com/leighalexander/status/1505134001434025989

Cancel culture doesn't even exist, but STAY TUNED for my BIG MONDAY CANCELLING!

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #15265 on: March 19, 2022, 09:20:19 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-are-so-many-people-hating-on-the-mario-movie-already.563230/page-2#post-83767744

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People have a weird hatred for Chris Pratt for something he’s never done, and they want to take it out on the movie.

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His politics are right-leaning and his church is hateful.

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Okay. What has he done tho? You can lean right and go to Church, and not be a bad person. He hasn’t said anything to indicate at all that he’s a bad dude.

DanteSparda504 is playing with fire.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #15266 on: March 19, 2022, 09:22:29 AM »
These threads never go well.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/amid-protests-penn-swimmer-lia-thomas-becomes-first-known-transgender-athlete-to-win-division-i-national-championship.563851/


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Close minded: Women's sports should exist
Open minded: Sports being men dominated entirely is social evolution
So you’re arguing men have a biological advantage against women even if they’re the same weight class and frame? Hmmm

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Oh I see your game

You should just say you think trans women are men and be honest about your beliefs

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giving a bit of side eye to this one.

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You ain't slick

Fucking WOW.
Takes the transwomen=women mantra at face value: "side eyesing this transphobe"
Takes the implications of male sports dominance to their natural conclusion: "You ain't slick transphobe"


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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #15267 on: March 19, 2022, 09:26:26 AM »
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It's such a massive advantage that she was behind most of the race and won at the very end?
Someone lagging behind during the race and then pulling ahead in the finish seems pretty normal in any racing sport, I think? It's just strategy, pushing ahead early vs preserving energy for a final spurt. What counts is the end result
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People keep acting like trans women and cis men are the same physically, at the point of transitioning that you're able to compete in women's sport... you don't have the advantages cis men do.
I don't think anyone's saying that, and what I read makes clear that Lia's performance significantly declined ater going on HRT. The question is if she still has an inherent advantage over cis women even after that.
She deserves to live as herself and having to choose between her identity and career would be terrible, but if she has an actual physical advantage, that's unfair to others all the same

The women on second and third place here all competed at the 2020 Olympics and took home silver medals. Lia beating them does seem significant if she wasn't at that level before

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #15268 on: March 19, 2022, 09:37:27 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/so-my-dad-died-and-i-was-left-out-of-the-obituary.564013/

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My father died Thursday, and the obituary omitted my sister and I. My parents divorced when I was 17, and apparently it's my fault that we never had a relationship - though he was never interested in having one with me when they were together. I'm his only biological child (my sister has a different biological father), and his obituary listed "daughters" I've never even fucking heard of. He's a piece of shit, even in death.

A parent dying feels very weird, regardless of the quality of your relationship. I'm not surprised that his family allowed his Crypt Keeper of a wife to excise us from memory. I can only hope that he died as miserably as he lived.

I don't know what the point of this was, but I felt like talking about it, and really have no one to do so with.

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I'm glad he's dead for the simple fact that I no longer have to hear about him dying anymore. The belief that he was some victim, and not a mean asshole who stole some of my shit when he left and didn't show to my high school graduation is some blindly loyal, dogmatic shit. He was an asshole and pathological liar, and a creep to boot.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #15269 on: March 19, 2022, 09:42:46 AM »
I wonder why they left him out he sounds like a fun person to hang with
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #15270 on: March 19, 2022, 09:48:21 AM »
https://twitter.com/leighalexander/status/1505134001434025989

Cancel culture doesn't even exist, but STAY TUNED for my BIG MONDAY CANCELLING!

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https://twitter.com/leighalexander/status/1505136870358933504

Toxic positivity?

There are reasons to call out people but when you run a "weekend preview" to get an extra rush and drop words like toxic positivity I'm getting my doubts

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #15271 on: March 19, 2022, 10:06:06 AM »
I imagine being one of the worst writers is what closed those doors. Not smiling women.

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« Reply #15272 on: March 19, 2022, 10:44:27 AM »
This Discourse™ is going places I never knew I needed:
https://twitter.com/shereebekker/status/1504899940497170442
https://twitter.com/shereebekker/status/1504899952992038912

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She made sure to list things like running or shooting air rifles as examples but left out anything remotely involving physicality  :lol

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« Reply #15273 on: March 19, 2022, 10:46:16 AM »
All this passive agressive cryptic sand in their whatever posting.

Most of the time these 'toxic workplace' stories are basic examples of mismanagement and they could just quit or resign.
(which isn't surprising considering most of those indie devs were used to working alone and not with large development teams. so the concept of HR is alien to them)

The second type is them realizing that their cutesy art farts aren't a hobby anymore and their 'creative' process isn't commercially viable when they spend half their time on virtue signaling and activism.
And all this of course circles back to their desire to cut out the big evil corporate publisher in favor of Kickstarter and start-up culture.
Because who needs to have things like contracts, experience, time tracking and milestones when you have a message to share and talent. :idont

The choice is pretty simple, either you go work at a big corpo publisher/developer who has hammered out most of the HR processes and you can count on stability at the expense of being a cog in the machine.
Or you go and work for an indie dev or start-up, knowing that they are inexperienced and will have to learn as they go but your invidivual contribution will make a bigger mark when it all works out.
Both have their pro's and cons.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #15274 on: March 19, 2022, 01:56:27 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/russia-has-begun-a-full-scale-invasion-in-ukraine-read-staff-posts.556366/page-890#post-83902495

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Politically, where does Zelensky sit?
Around a table with a senior Azov politician - head of one of the two councils of the Ministry of Veteran's Affairs, left - and the leader of C14, right.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/russia-has-begun-a-full-scale-invasion-in-ukraine-read-staff-posts.556366/page-890#post-83902924
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And still he is the good guy. Since when has sitting down with bad people made you a bad person?

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #15275 on: March 19, 2022, 02:28:19 PM »
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It's such a massive advantage that she was behind most of the race and won at the very end?
Someone lagging behind during the race and then pulling ahead in the finish seems pretty normal in any racing sport, I think? It's just strategy, pushing ahead early vs preserving energy for a final spurt. What counts is the end result
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People keep acting like trans women and cis men are the same physically, at the point of transitioning that you're able to compete in women's sport... you don't have the advantages cis men do.
I don't think anyone's saying that, and what I read makes clear that Lia's performance significantly declined ater going on HRT. The question is if she still has an inherent advantage over cis women even after that.
She deserves to live as herself and having to choose between her identity and career would be terrible, but if she has an actual physical advantage, that's unfair to others all the same

The women on second and third place here all competed at the 2020 Olympics and took home silver medals. Lia beating them does seem significant if she wasn't at that level before

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It's amazing how they got to the point that simply posing the question that someone might have an advantage is transphobic. By the same logic they'd have to despise that there are even studies and be outraged that there are any guidelines about the length of HRT etc at all

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #15276 on: March 19, 2022, 02:28:51 PM »
https://twitter.com/leighalexander/status/1505134001434025989

Cancel culture doesn't even exist, but STAY TUNED for my BIG MONDAY CANCELLING!

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https://twitter.com/leighalexander/status/1505136870358933504

Toxic positivity?

There are reasons to call out people but when you run a "weekend preview" to get an extra rush and drop words like toxic positivity I'm getting my doubts

lol remembering what Leigh Alexander's thing used to be when she was a game 'journo', ie being abrasive and by and large mostly unpleasant, and the likelihood that shes not changed in the past decade, this has a high chance of backfiring :society

also why do all these tweets trying to cancel someone all look like the same copypasta, it makes them come across very disingenuous :trumps
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« Reply #15277 on: March 19, 2022, 03:32:38 PM »

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« Reply #15278 on: March 19, 2022, 03:58:23 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/shaun-breaks-down-the-politics-of-harry-potter.559873/
JK Rowling always living rent free on their minds
"Someone without emotional investment in the franchise."

*Makes two hour video examining the politics of a children's book.
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« Reply #15279 on: March 19, 2022, 04:05:06 PM »
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Director of Communications said that financial control of a city or town to this degree is rare, assuring that the decision came after the town failed to make improvements after more than one corrective active plan.

"This level of oversight is not a first step; rather, it is usually the final step in restoring financial stability to a local government," Dunn said. "As as our Financial Fact sheet on Mason details... we've attempted two, five-year corrective action plans in Mason beginning in FY 2013 and FY 2016 that did not work."

Dunn acknowledged that the closing of the Federal prison in September of 2021 crippled the towns finances even more. Mason collected property tax from the prison, which sat on 44-acre of land, making its closure a hard hit.

However, Gooden said Mumpower has offered "little to no help" in assisting the town's financial needs.

Moving forward

According to Mumpower's release, all expenditures involving taxpayer or ratepayer money going forward must be reviewed and approved by the Comptroller's Office.

Mumpower will also direct the town to operate on a balanced budget and pay back the estimated $597,905 that Mason currently owes to its Water and Sewer Fund by June 30, 2024.

In his previous open letter, Mumpower acknowledged that Mason currently has the highest municipal property tax rate in Tipton County, which he criticized.

"I asked your mayor how these taxes help you," Mumpower said. "Other than the town's 26 paid employees, it was difficult for the mayor to identify any benefit to the citizens from the town's existence as an incorporated municipality. This is unfair to you and your neighbors."

Dunn said that Comptroller Mumpower "would not look to a tax increase as a means of balancing the town's budget and repaying the improper transfers from its Water and Sewer Fund."
Source: https://www.localmemphis.com/articl...oval/522-6dbca81a-d7c7-4fff-a210-f22e548d1aa9

It doesn't look like this is a cut-and-dry situation where the comptroller is 100% in the wrong. According to this one of the 5-year recovery plans was instituted in 2016 which was during or after the time that the political makeup of the town changed (according to the OP). If the town (which is extremely tiny) owes over half a million dollars then it makes sense to me why a comptroller would be heavily involved. And according to this the plan is to have the funds paid back by 2024, so this isn't a permanent "takeover". Maybe I'm missing something, but this doesn't appear to be a case where the town is being attacked due to their predominant race or political leanings. If I am missing something please feel free to reply to me with other sources.

get the fuck out of here with your voice of reasoncaucasity, this is "tale as older time" white people

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #15280 on: March 19, 2022, 04:45:14 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-are-so-many-people-hating-on-the-mario-movie-already.563230/page-2#post-83767744

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People have a weird hatred for Chris Pratt for something he’s never done, and they want to take it out on the movie.

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His politics are right-leaning and his church is hateful.

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Okay. What has he done tho? You can lean right and go to Church, and not be a bad person. He hasn’t said anything to indicate at all that he’s a bad dude.

DanteSparda504 is playing with fire.

Everytime I see purseowner post they are pearl clutching

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #15281 on: March 19, 2022, 05:01:16 PM »
A bunch of grown men crying about Chris Pratt voicing Mario in a children's movie, what a bunch of fucking weirdos.

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« Reply #15282 on: March 19, 2022, 05:02:24 PM »
I like callout threads where no one knows who the people in question are and no one can even really sum up what happened

https://www.resetera.com/threads/multiple-twitch-streamers-accused-of-abusive-behavior-bunny_gif-and-admiralbahroo.564166/

On the plus side we now know that Crossing Eden is into horny anime cosplayers

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« Reply #15283 on: March 19, 2022, 05:32:32 PM »
The "worst" they have on Chris Prat is that he's a white Christian guy that isn't outwardly political. That's enough to deem him an alt-right chud in their eyes. The fact that Pratt haven't given them any ammo to justify their hatred of him just makes them that much more salty.

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« Reply #15284 on: March 19, 2022, 06:08:05 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/elden-ring-vs-horizon-forbidden-west-which-will-be-the-best-selling-game.537143/page-27#post-83892124

Quote from: Shaz12567, post: 83892124, member: 97966

I am shocked ER has sold as well as it did and even pushed Horizon Forbidden West into obscurity. All signs were Horizon was the more mainstream game with the usual mainstream features. Dark Souls games have never sold well because of their niche features. IMO we should treat that 12 million sales with a grain of salt. It’s likely the Game of thrones viewer base consisting of casuals bought the game due to association with GRRM and once they find out how frustrating the enemies are and how it’s not a typical video game, there would be huge refunds.



We need to know how many of those 12 million were refunded because logically Horizon should outsell ER handily.



Sonyponies :lol
This guy is pretty good, the Elden Ring stans in that thread can't handle his facts:
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The publisher had targeted 4 million units to be sold in 5 weeks. This is the publisher. If it was so obvious, why did they target such a low number? No one expected this game to sell as it did. The game has sold twice as Sekiro did in a year. You have to wonder if it’s possible for such a miracle to happen. It’s clear the vast majority of those 12 million units are not Souls players so how did the game become so popular all of a sudden? And even if it did, it’s a notoriously difficult game, so as to how many of those 12 million sales stick around is another question altogether. Half of the sales are on Steam so it’s easy to refund within 2 hours
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DS3 sold 10 million units in 4 years. Sekiro sold 5 million copies in a year. This has nothing on Horizon Zero Dawn which sold over 20 million units. Even the publisher was targeting 4 million units. Based on historical track records, there was nothing indicating ER would catch up with FW, not even the publisher expected it.
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Have you ever heard of a publisher targeting 4 million units and the Actual results turn out to be 3x that number and destroying all historical records handily? Where did these players come from? Elden Ring is a Dark Souls game just in an open world setting which does nothing unique. There has to be a reason for this new found mass market appeal and I can only conclude it’s due to GRRM’s association with the game. Souls games are very niche and difficult to get into because there is no hand holding, journals or any story beat guiding the player. It’s game whuch is a perfect representation of "show no tell" and games of these types logically cannot outsell mass market franchise whuch are far more accessible

The sales targets are a clear indication that even the developers and publishers didn’t not think this game would be all that popular. It was supposed to sell better than past games, yes but not to this extent. Even guerilla games have been caught off guard by this release as it’s likely they would have shifted Forbidden West ahead had they known Elden Ring would completely wipe the floor with it in sales.Elden Ring is dominating Forbidden West on Sony’s own platform. There is no explanation for this.
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And you think grrm's fan base made up the 8 million difference. Lmao

The explanation seems pretty straightforward to me. Positive press, influencers, great reviews, an amazing beta and of course a good ole dash of FOMO.

But nah must of been those game of thrones fans.
Forbidden West also had all of that but hasn’t taken that giant leap which Elden Ring did. The Horizon series has basically stood still while ER has left it in the dust.
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You clearly haven't played the game
I have played it for around 2-3 hours now. The open world isn’t anything unique. Just take Witcher 3, remove all the map markers and indicators and instead of points of interest, include Dark Souls battle arenas.

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« Reply #15285 on: March 19, 2022, 06:10:48 PM »
The "worst" they have on Chris Prat is that he's a white Christian guy that isn't outwardly political. That's enough to deem him an alt-right chud in their eyes. The fact that Pratt haven't given them any ammo to justify their hatred of him just makes them that much more salty.
You're either with us or you're against us. I see four Nazis and Chris Pratt at a table, I see five Nazis.

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« Reply #15286 on: March 19, 2022, 06:22:15 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/elden-ring-vs-horizon-forbidden-west-which-will-be-the-best-selling-game.537143/page-27#post-83892124

Quote from: Shaz12567, post: 83892124, member: 97966

I am shocked ER has sold as well as it did and even pushed Horizon Forbidden West into obscurity. All signs were Horizon was the more mainstream game with the usual mainstream features. Dark Souls games have never sold well because of their niche features. IMO we should treat that 12 million sales with a grain of salt. It’s likely the Game of thrones viewer base consisting of casuals bought the game due to association with GRRM and once they find out how frustrating the enemies are and how it’s not a typical video game, there would be huge refunds.



We need to know how many of those 12 million were refunded because logically Horizon should outsell ER handily.



Sonyponies :lol
This guy is pretty good, the Elden Ring stans in that thread can't handle his facts:
Quote from: Shaz12567
The publisher had targeted 4 million units to be sold in 5 weeks. This is the publisher. If it was so obvious, why did they target such a low number? No one expected this game to sell as it did. The game has sold twice as Sekiro did in a year. You have to wonder if it’s possible for such a miracle to happen. It’s clear the vast majority of those 12 million units are not Souls players so how did the game become so popular all of a sudden? And even if it did, it’s a notoriously difficult game, so as to how many of those 12 million sales stick around is another question altogether. Half of the sales are on Steam so it’s easy to refund within 2 hours
Quote from: Shaz12567
DS3 sold 10 million units in 4 years. Sekiro sold 5 million copies in a year. This has nothing on Horizon Zero Dawn which sold over 20 million units. Even the publisher was targeting 4 million units. Based on historical track records, there was nothing indicating ER would catch up with FW, not even the publisher expected it.
Quote from: Shaz12567
Have you ever heard of a publisher targeting 4 million units and the Actual results turn out to be 3x that number and destroying all historical records handily? Where did these players come from? Elden Ring is a Dark Souls game just in an open world setting which does nothing unique. There has to be a reason for this new found mass market appeal and I can only conclude it’s due to GRRM’s association with the game. Souls games are very niche and difficult to get into because there is no hand holding, journals or any story beat guiding the player. It’s game whuch is a perfect representation of "show no tell" and games of these types logically cannot outsell mass market franchise whuch are far more accessible

The sales targets are a clear indication that even the developers and publishers didn’t not think this game would be all that popular. It was supposed to sell better than past games, yes but not to this extent. Even guerilla games have been caught off guard by this release as it’s likely they would have shifted Forbidden West ahead had they known Elden Ring would completely wipe the floor with it in sales.Elden Ring is dominating Forbidden West on Sony’s own platform. There is no explanation for this.
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And you think grrm's fan base made up the 8 million difference. Lmao

The explanation seems pretty straightforward to me. Positive press, influencers, great reviews, an amazing beta and of course a good ole dash of FOMO.

But nah must of been those game of thrones fans.
Forbidden West also had all of that but hasn’t taken that giant leap which Elden Ring did. The Horizon series has basically stood still while ER has left it in the dust.
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You clearly haven't played the game
I have played it for around 2-3 hours now. The open world isn’t anything unique. Just take Witcher 3, remove all the map markers and indicators and instead of points of interest, include Dark Souls battle arenas.

is it bad that I can't tell if they're trolling or not   :rage

I'm leaning towards troll but I've seen Sony Stan's say stupid shit for years

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #15287 on: March 19, 2022, 06:42:52 PM »
The "worst" they have on Chris Prat is that he's a white Christian guy that isn't outwardly political. That's enough to deem him an alt-right chud in their eyes. The fact that Pratt haven't given them any ammo to justify their hatred of him just makes them that much more salty.
You're either with us or you're against us. I see four Nazis and Chris Pratt at a table, I see five Nazis.

Damn that reference is old :cat

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« Reply #15288 on: March 19, 2022, 06:49:11 PM »
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We need to know how many of those 12 million were refunded because logically Horizon should outsell ER handily.
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It’s game whuch is a perfect representation of "show no tell" and games of these types logically cannot outsell mass market franchise whuch are far more accessible

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« Reply #15289 on: March 19, 2022, 06:57:37 PM »
I like callout threads where no one knows who the people in question are and no one can even really sum up what happened

https://www.resetera.com/threads/multiple-twitch-streamers-accused-of-abusive-behavior-bunny_gif-and-admiralbahroo.564166/

On the plus side we now know that Crossing Eden is into horny anime cosplayers

Crossing Eden would HATE the main accuser if he knew anything about her.  Layna is firmly in the pro-objectification camp, and has argued at length with game and other journalists about it on Twitter.  She'd tell him to fuck off if she saw the women sexualization thread on Era.

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« Reply #15290 on: March 19, 2022, 07:01:21 PM »
Chris Pratt stuff is part manufactured controversy of a target deemed too big to fail and part streisand effect. There's a morbid curiosity in trying to understand how we arrive at Obama's tan suit outrage. With Pratt, he was well liked from the sitcom to the huge movies. People formed this consensus that he carried that space movie he made with Jennifer Lawrence on his "boundless charisma". Some controversy there on how Jennifer Lawrence was seen as a try hard and overexposed while Chris Pratt wasn't. No blame on him. More on fans or audiences. Shift really came from two moments: Elliot Page on some talk show calling out his church. And a twitter poll ranking the Chris actors (:-\). Church in question has a number of celebrities who've attended, many who don't hold those values to the letter. I think he was singled out due to the movie star status. The too big to fail thing. So that, I assume, influenced the twitter poll he lost in. It led to the genuinely insane PR response of having various marvel actors talking about Chris Pratt like he's Raymond Shaw... including Robert Downey Jr using a photo of them together, photoshopped to crop out spider-man.

Nothing past that. Once he got in trouble for exposing his dick to elicit a reaction during Parks and Recreation. As in, actual trouble with HR. But people found it charming and quirky and like his marvel character.

Oh, and some fringe weirdos see him as an existential threat on the path to becoming Ronald Reagan 2.0. Marrying the daughter of famed Republican politician, Arnold Schwarzenegger, gives him an in towards these political ambitions he's never expressed.

 :anhuld


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« Reply #15291 on: March 19, 2022, 07:08:59 PM »
It never has to be anything more sophisticated than, 'these people are miserable and they search for excuses to hate people and stew in their misery.'

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« Reply #15292 on: March 19, 2022, 07:11:24 PM »
Quote from: https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-are-so-many-people-hating-on-the-mario-movie-already.563230/page-4#post-83866354
My friend, we are in the era of literal fucking nazi's taking over conservatism because of "go along to get along" conservatives who don't care about basic goddamn human rights.

As a bisexual trans woman, don't even think to talk down to me about "good conservatives".
There is no "good conservative" right now when you willingly follow and digest info from people like fucking Ben Shapiro.


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« Reply #15293 on: March 19, 2022, 07:14:49 PM »
I like callout threads where no one knows who the people in question are and no one can even really sum up what happened

https://www.resetera.com/threads/multiple-twitch-streamers-accused-of-abusive-behavior-bunny_gif-and-admiralbahroo.564166/

On the plus side we now know that Crossing Eden is into horny anime cosplayers
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Maybe I'm in the wrong here but this feels like petty ass high school drama that's just making me tired.

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« Reply #15294 on: March 19, 2022, 07:27:36 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/jeff-grubb-microsoft-didnt-fund-moon-studios-next-game-due-to-becoming-aware-of-the-studios-oppressive-culture.563839/page-6#post-83899351

B-chumps:
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So, the fact that I need to come in here and say this is appalling.

IF YOU USE THIS THREAD AS AN EXCUSE TO PLATFORM WAR YOU WILL BE GETTING A HUGE BAN. DO NOT USE SERIOUS ISSUES TO ENGAGE IN YOUR PETTY CONSOLE BATTLES.

I already banned one guy for it, and will be going through the rest of the thread, expect the same if you do it.
Capslock  :badass

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« Reply #15295 on: March 19, 2022, 09:16:35 PM »
Chris Pratt is guilty of the most heinous thought crimes boys, it's time to stop defending that pos :social2
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« Reply #15296 on: March 19, 2022, 09:25:08 PM »
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Director of Communications said that financial control of a city or town to this degree is rare, assuring that the decision came after the town failed to make improvements after more than one corrective active plan.

"This level of oversight is not a first step; rather, it is usually the final step in restoring financial stability to a local government," Dunn said. "As as our Financial Fact sheet on Mason details... we've attempted two, five-year corrective action plans in Mason beginning in FY 2013 and FY 2016 that did not work."

Dunn acknowledged that the closing of the Federal prison in September of 2021 crippled the towns finances even more. Mason collected property tax from the prison, which sat on 44-acre of land, making its closure a hard hit.

However, Gooden said Mumpower has offered "little to no help" in assisting the town's financial needs.

Moving forward

According to Mumpower's release, all expenditures involving taxpayer or ratepayer money going forward must be reviewed and approved by the Comptroller's Office.

Mumpower will also direct the town to operate on a balanced budget and pay back the estimated $597,905 that Mason currently owes to its Water and Sewer Fund by June 30, 2024.

In his previous open letter, Mumpower acknowledged that Mason currently has the highest municipal property tax rate in Tipton County, which he criticized.

"I asked your mayor how these taxes help you," Mumpower said. "Other than the town's 26 paid employees, it was difficult for the mayor to identify any benefit to the citizens from the town's existence as an incorporated municipality. This is unfair to you and your neighbors."

Dunn said that Comptroller Mumpower "would not look to a tax increase as a means of balancing the town's budget and repaying the improper transfers from its Water and Sewer Fund."
Source: https://www.localmemphis.com/articl...oval/522-6dbca81a-d7c7-4fff-a210-f22e548d1aa9

It doesn't look like this is a cut-and-dry situation where the comptroller is 100% in the wrong. According to this one of the 5-year recovery plans was instituted in 2016 which was during or after the time that the political makeup of the town changed (according to the OP). If the town (which is extremely tiny) owes over half a million dollars then it makes sense to me why a comptroller would be heavily involved. And according to this the plan is to have the funds paid back by 2024, so this isn't a permanent "takeover". Maybe I'm missing something, but this doesn't appear to be a case where the town is being attacked due to their predominant race or political leanings. If I am missing something please feel free to reply to me with other sources.

get the fuck out of here with your voice of reasoncaucasity, this is "tale as older time" white people
Misuse of public money is ok if you're a majority black community?


Lol, the thread died after this post and the dude got shadow banned
« Last Edit: March 19, 2022, 09:34:01 PM by Potato »
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« Reply #15297 on: March 19, 2022, 09:56:40 PM »
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Director of Communications said that financial control of a city or town to this degree is rare, assuring that the decision came after the town failed to make improvements after more than one corrective active plan.

"This level of oversight is not a first step; rather, it is usually the final step in restoring financial stability to a local government," Dunn said. "As as our Financial Fact sheet on Mason details... we've attempted two, five-year corrective action plans in Mason beginning in FY 2013 and FY 2016 that did not work."

Dunn acknowledged that the closing of the Federal prison in September of 2021 crippled the towns finances even more. Mason collected property tax from the prison, which sat on 44-acre of land, making its closure a hard hit.

However, Gooden said Mumpower has offered "little to no help" in assisting the town's financial needs.

Moving forward

According to Mumpower's release, all expenditures involving taxpayer or ratepayer money going forward must be reviewed and approved by the Comptroller's Office.

Mumpower will also direct the town to operate on a balanced budget and pay back the estimated $597,905 that Mason currently owes to its Water and Sewer Fund by June 30, 2024.

In his previous open letter, Mumpower acknowledged that Mason currently has the highest municipal property tax rate in Tipton County, which he criticized.

"I asked your mayor how these taxes help you," Mumpower said. "Other than the town's 26 paid employees, it was difficult for the mayor to identify any benefit to the citizens from the town's existence as an incorporated municipality. This is unfair to you and your neighbors."

Dunn said that Comptroller Mumpower "would not look to a tax increase as a means of balancing the town's budget and repaying the improper transfers from its Water and Sewer Fund."
Source: https://www.localmemphis.com/articl...oval/522-6dbca81a-d7c7-4fff-a210-f22e548d1aa9

It doesn't look like this is a cut-and-dry situation where the comptroller is 100% in the wrong. According to this one of the 5-year recovery plans was instituted in 2016 which was during or after the time that the political makeup of the town changed (according to the OP). If the town (which is extremely tiny) owes over half a million dollars then it makes sense to me why a comptroller would be heavily involved. And according to this the plan is to have the funds paid back by 2024, so this isn't a permanent "takeover". Maybe I'm missing something, but this doesn't appear to be a case where the town is being attacked due to their predominant race or political leanings. If I am missing something please feel free to reply to me with other sources.

get the fuck out of here with your voice of reasoncaucasity, this is "tale as older time" white people
Misuse of public money is ok if you're a majority black community?


Lol, the thread died after this post and the dude got shadow banned

That guy getting banned for explaining the situation   :lol

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« Reply #15298 on: March 19, 2022, 09:58:47 PM »
Had to unfollow a lot of bigots on Instagram today unfortunately.

A lot of transphobes and TERFs are using that podium picture to prove how much bigger she is compared to her competitors, but their feeble minds aren't taking into account the fact that the first place podium is taller than the rest, making her look bigger than she actually is.

Why were you following so many bigots and transphobes on Instagram in the first place huh?  :ufup

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« Reply #15299 on: March 19, 2022, 10:09:10 PM »
Had to unfollow a lot of bigots on Instagram today unfortunately.

A lot of transphobes and TERFs are using that podium picture to prove how much bigger she is compared to her competitors, but their feeble minds aren't taking into account the fact that the first place podium is taller than the rest, making her look bigger than she actually is.

Why were you following so many bigots and transphobes on Instagram in the first place huh?  :ufup



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All this fuss about trans women in sports wouldn't exist if people actually believed trans women are women. There is no debate to be had, it's just airing transphobia.
When did anyone say they weren't?

This is a debate about how much of an advantage experiencing male puberty gives a competitor. This advantage is fact and is measurable.

All this fuss about trans women in sports wouldn't exist if people actually believed trans women have an innate advantage over cis women.
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