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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #28320 on: August 30, 2022, 06:07:21 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/terf-jk-rowling-continues-to-be-a-hateful-bigot.221245/page-55#post-92365540

Quote from: Wildflowerblahblah
I got a totally legit for real download of the book and holy shit from a skimming it is fucking embarrassing. Rowling should be ashamed she wrote such self serving dreck.

Whereas you should definitely be proud of how you spend your time.

These cats are fucking weird.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #28321 on: August 30, 2022, 06:25:36 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/ign-forspoken-new-gameplay-overview-game-includes-dmc-style-combat-rankings.623704/page-10#post-92162680
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:cop User Banned (Permanent): Misrepresenting prior ban; transphobia
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The forums here are pretty wild sometimes. I got banned for a month for choosing NOT to argue about trans people. Literally said I'm not here to discuss people's rights or choices they make and BOOM ban hammer 🤦🏾‍♂️. Not everything needs to be an argument. Sometimes the correct option here is to not say anything...as terrible as that sounds.


Previous ban:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/ghostwire-tokyo-review-thread.564640/page-6#post-84009592
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:cop User Banned (1 Month): Excusing transphobia across multiple posts
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Quote from: Kyle Cross
This is ultimately unrelated to Ghostwire and ACGs opinion on it, but I feel like it's important to let you know as someone who consumes their content. While I of course can't tell you who to value the opinion of, just letting you know that ACG exposed themselves as a transphobe back during the Cyberpunk fiasco.
Oh? I hadnt heard that. Pretty unfortunate as he seems like a cool dude, but at the end of the day to each his own. As long as his personal views aren't effecting his objectivity...unless that's already happened 🤔.

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What does "to each his own" mean here in the context of being informed of someone's transphobia?

Quote from: Boots The God
It means everyone is entitled to their own opinions and views. What you or he or anyone else believes has no bearing on my life. As a result, I'm not here to judge you or him for those views.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #28322 on: August 30, 2022, 06:26:21 AM »


Also PlanetSmasher

God. the last two dates I went on in Chicago, one of them had the disappointed "oh" and the other one just watched the olympics and ate french fries and barely spoke a word to me for the entire meal.

So that's where Hannah Gadsby got her material

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #28323 on: August 30, 2022, 06:32:25 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/wild-arms-shadow-hearts-creators-kickstarter-armed-fantasia-pennyblood-now-live.624781/page-4#post-92229379
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Armed Fantasia designs don't look terrible to me, I was expecting Xenoblade Chronicles 2-level bad or horny by the comments.

I just hope both games turn out good.
Era hates shorts. All shorts are banned on Era. If you wear shorts, people will not be happy!! I guess she likes drawing girls with shorts! and pink cowboy boots.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #28324 on: August 30, 2022, 06:43:36 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/terf-jk-rowling-continues-to-be-a-hateful-bigot.221245/page-55#post-92365540

Quote from: Wildflowerblahblah
I got a totally legit for real download of the book and holy shit from a skimming it is fucking embarrassing. Rowling should be ashamed she wrote such self serving dreck.

Whereas you should definitely be proud of how you spend your time.

These cats are fucking weird.

They're studying at university, and managed to piss off their tutor, their entire whatsapp study group, and then couldn't be arsed to do their final piece of work, so are just gonna restart uni again.

I guarantee you they will be moaning about student loans.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #28325 on: August 30, 2022, 07:20:07 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/ign-forspoken-new-gameplay-overview-game-includes-dmc-style-combat-rankings.623704/page-10#post-92162680
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:cop User Banned (Permanent): Misrepresenting prior ban; transphobia
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The forums here are pretty wild sometimes. I got banned for a month for choosing NOT to argue about trans people. Literally said I'm not here to discuss people's rights or choices they make and BOOM ban hammer 🤦🏾‍♂️. Not everything needs to be an argument. Sometimes the correct option here is to not say anything...as terrible as that sounds.


Previous ban:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/ghostwire-tokyo-review-thread.564640/page-6#post-84009592
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:cop User Banned (1 Month): Excusing transphobia across multiple posts
Quote from: Boots The God
Quote from: Kyle Cross
This is ultimately unrelated to Ghostwire and ACGs opinion on it, but I feel like it's important to let you know as someone who consumes their content. While I of course can't tell you who to value the opinion of, just letting you know that ACG exposed themselves as a transphobe back during the Cyberpunk fiasco.
Oh? I hadnt heard that. Pretty unfortunate as he seems like a cool dude, but at the end of the day to each his own. As long as his personal views aren't effecting his objectivity...unless that's already happened 🤔.

Quote from: Zor
What does "to each his own" mean here in the context of being informed of someone's transphobia?

Quote from: Boots The God
It means everyone is entitled to their own opinions and views. What you or he or anyone else believes has no bearing on my life. As a result, I'm not here to judge you or him for those views.

I want to see the same sentiment expressed in a way that doesn't "mIsRePrEsEnT pRiOr BaN"

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #28326 on: August 30, 2022, 07:49:21 AM »

Also PlanetSmasher

God. the last two dates I went on in Chicago, one of them had the disappointed "oh" and the other one just watched the olympics and ate french fries and barely spoke a word to me for the entire meal.

Wife material tbf.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #28327 on: August 30, 2022, 09:01:39 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/wild-arms-shadow-hearts-creators-kickstarter-armed-fantasia-pennyblood-now-live.624781/page-4#post-92229379
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:cop User Banned (1 month): Sexist trolling and dismissive commentary.
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Armed Fantasia designs don't look terrible to me, I was expecting Xenoblade Chronicles 2-level bad or horny by the comments.

I just hope both games turn out good.
Era hates shorts. All shorts are banned on Era. If you wear shorts, people will not be happy!! I guess she likes drawing girls with shorts! and pink cowboy boots.
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/wildarms/images/4/47/Rebecca_Streisand.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20080320184027



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You'd think people would dislike the droopy eyes artstyle, not that the girl shows a tiny amount of skin

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #28328 on: August 30, 2022, 09:04:15 AM »
Where are her organs and/or pants?!?
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #28329 on: August 30, 2022, 09:09:52 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/terf-jk-rowling-continues-to-be-a-hateful-bigot.221245/page-55#post-92365540

Quote from: Wildflowerblahblah
I got a totally legit for real download of the book and holy shit from a skimming it is fucking embarrassing. Rowling should be ashamed she wrote such self serving dreck.

Whereas you should definitely be proud of how you spend your time.

These cats are fucking weird.

I guess you don’t get banned for admitting to pirating TERF BITCH material  :idont
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #28330 on: August 30, 2022, 11:39:06 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/i-dont-watch-horror-movies.625789/
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I saw Nope yesterday, and during one scene a song plays by an artist a girl I used to date introduced me to. I texted her and asked if she had seen it, which she hadn't. I told her about the artist being in it, and that it was a pretty good movie.

She replied "Haven't heard about it. Oh it's a horror movie. I don't watch horror movies".

I've met like four or five people in my life who have a hard rule about not watching horror movies, just none of them.

It just confuses me when people completely dismiss and refuse an entire genre. I don't like country music in general, but there are some artists and records in the genre that I do like a lot, so there should be a good horror movie for everyone out there.

Anyone else got any experience with this?
What a weird comparison

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #28331 on: August 30, 2022, 11:51:11 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/terf-jk-rowling-continues-to-be-a-hateful-bigot.221245/page-54#post-92336266
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Is there a reason WHY she still writes under that name? Like, I get at first the publishing excuse of "women authors deter sales" or some such.... But if she wanted to prove that women can be successful writers, shouldn't she have shed that name a long time ago?
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #28332 on: August 30, 2022, 11:51:15 AM »
What a convenient excuse to not watch any of Jordan Peeles movies. Lady is clearly racist

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #28333 on: August 30, 2022, 02:15:27 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/i-dont-watch-horror-movies.625789/
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I saw Nope yesterday, and during one scene a song plays by an artist a girl I used to date introduced me to. I texted her and asked if she had seen it, which she hadn't. I told her about the artist being in it, and that it was a pretty good movie.

She replied "Haven't heard about it. Oh it's a horror movie. I don't watch horror movies".

I've met like four or five people in my life who have a hard rule about not watching horror movies, just none of them.

It just confuses me when people completely dismiss and refuse an entire genre. I don't like country music in general, but there are some artists and records in the genre that I do like a lot, so there should be a good horror movie for everyone out there.

Anyone else got any experience with this?
At some point we're going to need to have a talk about how other people are, in fact, different from you.

benjipwns

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #28334 on: August 30, 2022, 02:32:34 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/ign-forspoken-new-gameplay-overview-game-includes-dmc-style-combat-rankings.623704/page-10#post-92162680
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:cop User Banned (Permanent): Misrepresenting prior ban; transphobia
Quote from: Boots The God
The forums here are pretty wild sometimes. I got banned for a month for choosing NOT to argue about trans people. Literally said I'm not here to discuss people's rights or choices they make and BOOM ban hammer 🤦🏾‍♂️. Not everything needs to be an argument. Sometimes the correct option here is to not say anything...as terrible as that sounds.


Previous ban:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/ghostwire-tokyo-review-thread.564640/page-6#post-84009592
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:cop User Banned (1 Month): Excusing transphobia across multiple posts
Quote from: Boots The God
Quote from: Kyle Cross
This is ultimately unrelated to Ghostwire and ACGs opinion on it, but I feel like it's important to let you know as someone who consumes their content. While I of course can't tell you who to value the opinion of, just letting you know that ACG exposed themselves as a transphobe back during the Cyberpunk fiasco.
Oh? I hadnt heard that. Pretty unfortunate as he seems like a cool dude, but at the end of the day to each his own. As long as his personal views aren't effecting his objectivity...unless that's already happened 🤔.

Quote from: Zor
What does "to each his own" mean here in the context of being informed of someone's transphobia?

Quote from: Boots The God
It means everyone is entitled to their own opinions and views. What you or he or anyone else believes has no bearing on my life. As a result, I'm not here to judge you or him for those views.
Created a no-win scenario and banned him for being honest. If he said whatever wasn't transphobic he'd be banned for downplaying or defending transphobia. He said he didn't care so he's banned for excusing transphobia. And it became a black mark on his permanent record for the progressive forum which claims to prefer rehabilitation over draconian criminal punishment because his admitting to not having reformed from his earlier crime earns him the "two strikes" death penalty. The only way for him to show he had been rehabilitated was to never again admit to liking a certain YouTuber and to proclaim that he would never watch it again, nor to complain about how he had been treated by the state staff since refusing to admit your guilt by accepting that you committed the crimes you erroneously think yourself innocent of proves you haven't reformed. (A common reason in the real world for why innocent people on death row have been denied both parole and having their cases re-examined.)

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #28335 on: August 30, 2022, 02:32:58 PM »
Created a no-win scenario and banned him for being honest. If he said whatever wasn't transphobic he'd be banned for downplaying or defending transphobia. He said he didn't care so he's banned for excusing transphobia. And it became a black mark on his permanent record for the progressive forum which claims to prefer rehabilitation over draconian criminal punishment because his admitting to not having reformed earns him the "two strikes" death penalty. The only way for him to show he had been rehabilitated was to never again admit to liking a certain YouTuber and to proclaim that he would never watch it again, nor to complain about how he had been treated by the state staff since refusing to admit your guilt by accepting that you committed the crimes you erroneously think yourself innocent of proves you haven't reformed. (A common reason in the real world for why innocent people on death row have been denied both parole and having their cases re-examined.)
Why's it gotta be a BLACK mark on his record? :social

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #28337 on: August 30, 2022, 02:56:36 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-obfuscation-of-minority-and-its-application-in-racial-topics.626164/
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I don't like it because it sounds a lot like saying colored people with more effort.

I'm Black. I will use Black. I will capitalize Black. There will be no ambiguity...unless you meet me in person where people tend to equate my fair skin with other ethnicities. I will correct you.

If the topic is about a specific minority group, there's no need to chime in.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #28338 on: August 30, 2022, 02:58:41 PM »
"We need to know everyone's ethnicity so we can place what they say properly in the progressive stack" -> "How dare you try to use your status to gain advantage in the progressive stack if the topic is not about YOUR PEOPLE, MIND YOUR OWN PEOPLE'S BUSINESS" :social

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #28339 on: August 30, 2022, 03:00:13 PM »
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I've seen this a few times over the years, often in a dismissive nature toward the issue at hand. You sometimes get a similar thing with people saying they're LGBTQ+ and speaking to trans issues or saying they don't think X is transphobic. The act of obfuscating it always stands out to me as the person being aware that there's a difference there as well.
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"The struggle is intersectional, we need solidarity" -> "HOLD UP, THIS DOESN'T INCLUDE YOU, KNOW YOUR PLACE" :social

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #28340 on: August 30, 2022, 03:05:04 PM »
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I've seen this a few times over the years, often in a dismissive nature toward the issue at hand. You sometimes get a similar thing with people saying they're LGBTQ+ and speaking to trans issues or saying they don't think X is transphobic. The act of obfuscating it always stands out to me as the person being aware that there's a difference there as well.
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"The struggle is intersectional, we need solidarity" -> "HOLD UP, THIS DOESN'T INCLUDE YOU" :social

And yet Kyuuji has zero issue with speaking on issues concerning cis women  :kermit

I think it's pretty obvious that they're not upset about those people speaking up, they're upset that they have the wrong opinion.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #28341 on: August 30, 2022, 03:21:15 PM »
silence person who menstruates :wag
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #28342 on: August 30, 2022, 04:34:28 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/rian-johnson-is-%E2%80%98even-more-proud%E2%80%99-of-star-wars-the-last-jedi-five-years-on-holy-it%E2%80%99s-been-half-a-decade.626029/

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"I'm even more proud of it five years on," he says. "When I was up at bat, I really swung at the ball." The film, he says, is not just a Star Wars movie – it's a movie about Star Wars, and what it means to fans (himself included). "I think it's impossible for any of us to approach Star Wars without thinking about it as a myth that we were raised with, and how that myth, that story, baked itself into us and affected us," Johnson explains. "The ultimate intent was not to strip away – the intent was to get to the basic, fundamental power of myth. And ultimately I hope the film is an affirmation of the power of the myth of Star Wars in our lives."

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The final images of the movie, to me, are not deconstructing the myth of Luke Skywalker, they're building it, and they're him embracing it," the director explains. "They're him absolutely defying the notion of, 'Throw away the past,' and embracing what actually matters about his myth and what's going to inspire the next generation. So for me, the process of stripping away is always in the interest of getting to something

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #28343 on: August 30, 2022, 04:55:30 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-obfuscation-of-minority-and-its-application-in-racial-topics.626164/

“Silence, cracka-adjacent  :ufup

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For instance, if the topic of discussion concerns the rise in anti-Asian sentiments within parts of Sacramento, and the story entails slurs and violence being thrown towards a member of that demographic at a particular location/venue, it adds absolutely nothing to the discussion if I provide my experiences as another minority native of the city, knowing damn well I'm not Asian. In fact, I would say the disingenuous nature of my sentiments comes across as dismissive to another's lived experience by needless elevating my voice in a space where it would've better suited for me to listen.


 :anhuld


Did he just say that pulling an excel or a nepenthe is a big oof?  Black people should "stay in their own lane," as it were regarding issues of other minorities?



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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #28344 on: August 30, 2022, 04:57:06 PM »
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #28345 on: August 30, 2022, 05:07:41 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-obfuscation-of-minority-and-its-application-in-racial-topics.626164/

“Silence, cracka-adjacent  :ufup

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For instance, if the topic of discussion concerns the rise in anti-Asian sentiments within parts of Sacramento, and the story entails slurs and violence being thrown towards a member of that demographic at a particular location/venue, it adds absolutely nothing to the discussion if I provide my experiences as another minority native of the city, knowing damn well I'm not Asian. In fact, I would say the disingenuous nature of my sentiments comes across as dismissive to another's lived experience by needless elevating my voice in a space where it would've better suited for me to listen.


 :anhuld


Did he just say that pulling an excel or a nepenthe is a big oof?  Black people should "stay in their own lane," as it were regarding issues of other minorities?



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https://www.resetera.com/threads/70-year-old-asian-american-attacked-in-san-francisco.614940/page-2#post-90955146
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Let's keep in mind the post George Floyd anti-Blackness going on.

The powers that be don't actually care about Asian people. The news signal boosts the hell out of anti Asian attacks when the perps are Black, so that anti-Black sentiment can fester. They tried the whole "see Blacks are the REAL racists!" thing two years ago with signal boosting anti-Semitism in the Black community but that didn't stick. So they moved on to footage after footage of Blacks attacking Asians when whites are the ones lopsidingly commiting those crimes.


https://www.resetera.com/threads/70-year-old-asian-american-attacked-in-san-francisco.614940/page-3#post-91061025
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Also not related to above, but do we *really* need posts in *this thread* about how racist Asians are? I mean seriously, why spit in the river of your grandma's blood from your ivory tower. What possible purpose does that serve.

THANK YOU!!!

My sentiments exactly!

No one - absolutely motherfucking no one - said a thing about the race of the perpetrators of this shit.

So Powdered Egg, was it necessary to start a that thread derail? I wanted to call it out as soon as I saw it, but past examples have shown me that when Asian issues and Black issues collide on Era the mods tend to have a knee-jerk reaction, and it sure as hell isn't in support of Asians.

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It wasn't a thread derail. We can walk and chew gum at the same time mon ami.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #28347 on: August 30, 2022, 05:22:25 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/mikhail-gorbachev-has-died.626251/#post-92396698
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Huh. I saw him speak at my college about 9 years ago. It was interesting to get to see him in person.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #28348 on: August 30, 2022, 05:37:10 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/70-year-old-asian-american-attacked-in-san-francisco.614940/page-2#post-90955146
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Let's keep in mind the post George Floyd anti-Blackness going on.

The powers that be don't actually care about Asian people. The news signal boosts the hell out of anti Asian attacks when the perps are Black, so that anti-Black sentiment can fester. They tried the whole "see Blacks are the REAL racists!" thing two years ago with signal boosting anti-Semitism in the Black community but that didn't stick. So they moved on to footage after footage of Blacks attacking Asians when whites are the ones lopsidingly commiting those crimes.


https://www.resetera.com/threads/70-year-old-asian-american-attacked-in-san-francisco.614940/page-3#post-91061025
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Also not related to above, but do we *really* need posts in *this thread* about how racist Asians are? I mean seriously, why spit in the river of your grandma's blood from your ivory tower. What possible purpose does that serve.

THANK YOU!!!

My sentiments exactly!

No one - absolutely motherfucking no one - said a thing about the race of the perpetrators of this shit.

So Powdered Egg, was it necessary to start a that thread derail? I wanted to call it out as soon as I saw it, but past examples have shown me that when Asian issues and Black issues collide on Era the mods tend to have a knee-jerk reaction, and it sure as hell isn't in support of Asians.

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It wasn't a thread derail. We can walk and chew gum at the same time mon ami.
I'm not down with grouping "minorities" or "people of color" because all them folks practice anti-Blackness in their communities.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #28349 on: August 30, 2022, 05:39:34 PM »
That guy really fucking hates asian people.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #28350 on: August 30, 2022, 06:04:56 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/just-watched-a-clint-eastwood-film-called-the-beguiled-wtf.626137/page-2

Era upset about a 50 year old movie that takes place during the U.S Civil War.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #28351 on: August 30, 2022, 06:42:12 PM »
That guy really fucking hates asian people.
I think he's just confused, black is the absence of color. All colors are anti-black.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #28352 on: August 30, 2022, 07:11:17 PM »
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I'm not down with grouping "minorities" or "people of color" because all them folks practice anti-Blackness in their communities.
NepNep
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Nothing grinds my gears more than when I say "Hey, this is an issue" with regards to anti-Black bias and racism, and someone chimes in to go "Well, as a minority myself, I don't see the problem."

Are you Black? No? Then who the fuck asked you?

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« Reply #28353 on: August 30, 2022, 07:15:50 PM »
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Nothing grinds my gears more than when I say "Hey, this is an issue" with regards to anti-Black bias and racism, and someone chimes in to go "Well, as a minority myself, I don't see the problem."

Are you Black? No? Then who the fuck asked you?
It is incumbent on you to specify if you only want people of certain skin colors to reply to you because you don't care what people with different skin colors think.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #28354 on: August 30, 2022, 07:18:34 PM »
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Nothing grinds my gears more than when I say "Hey, this is an issue" with regards to anti-Black bias and racism, and someone chimes in to go "Well, as a minority myself, I don't see the problem."

Are you Black? No? Then who the fuck asked you?
It is incumbent on you to specify if you only want people of certain skin colors to reply to you because you don't care what people with different skin colors think.
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People too often conflate the freedom to offer their opinion with the misguided notion that it is warranted in every situation.

As I alluded in my OP, I strongly feel it would be more beneficial for those not apart of the affected group to take a position of listening rather than active involvement with regard to racism/bigotry targeting a specific group.
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Agreed, but I think another part of this too is the fact that people in general still fundamentally buy into notions of white supremacy and subsequently anti-Blackness, one of the consequences being that, even to other minorities, Black people actually have no autonomy worth respecting. This lack of autonomy and control also means that Black struggles, just by way of how Black culture is constantly taken and stolen without acknowledgement or compensation, are rendered universal. Reckeless comparisons to slavery, Jim Crow, segregation, and the n-word abound everywhere. Everyone's struggles, and imagined slights, inevitably bite off of ours, to the point where we're sometimes responsible not just for our fights, but everyone else's too simultaneously (ex. how many times have threads about Black representation been derailed with "well, what about my group?" Like....Start your own thread?)

So it makes sense then that people really do barge in with an unearned sense of authority to speak on Blackness and Black struggle even when they aren't Black. And when ignorance and paternalistic self-confidence mix, you get folks who muscle on in and say that, because something similar happened to them and they were fine with it, they don't see the problem when it happens to Black people. Like cool, if you are okay with being treated a certain kind of way by majority groups and in media, that's your prerogative. But it doesn't have shit to do with Black people.

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« Reply #28355 on: August 30, 2022, 07:24:35 PM »
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Black people actually have no autonomy worth respecting. This lack of autonomy and control also means that Black struggles, just by way of how Black culture is constantly taken and stolen without acknowledgement or compensation, are rendered universal.

10+ years of reading this sentence in some form or other and it still doesn't make any sense.   :derp




When I look at this man, all I can think of is: when are we getting compensated (or at least acknowledged) for the tragedy and cardinal sin of *sharing culture*?

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #28356 on: August 30, 2022, 07:38:38 PM »
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Agreed, but I think another part of this too is the fact that people in general still fundamentally buy into notions of white supremacy and subsequently anti-Blackness, one of the consequences being that, even to other minorities, Black people actually have no autonomy worth respecting. This lack of autonomy and control also means that Black struggles, just by way of how Black culture is constantly taken and stolen without acknowledgement or compensation, are rendered universal. Reckeless comparisons to slavery, Jim Crow, segregation, and the n-word abound everywhere. Everyone's struggles, and imagined slights, inevitably bite off of ours, to the point where we're sometimes responsible not just for our fights, but everyone else's too simultaneously
Yeah, it'd definitely never fly if people compared their own struggles to things like the Holocaust or the crucifixion of Jesus or whatever. Like can you imagine if someone compared being falsely accused to the Salem Witch Trials or their silencing to Socrates or Galileo? Would never happen. Nobody would ever dare claiming that they were going to be put in camps by their political enemies that's for sure. The last thing we'd ever see is someone comparing Dave Chappelle or Ricky Gervais standup to the Rwandan genocide. Oh, oops, last one involves Black people, my bad. (Though maybe not Black-Black since Rwandans aren't African-American.)
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #28357 on: August 30, 2022, 07:45:52 PM »
I wonder what Nepenthe thinks when she sees a white (white-passing/white-adjacent/inherent disregard for melanin person) Brazilian doing capoeira.  "Hey, that's my culture!  Give it back!"

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #28358 on: August 30, 2022, 07:47:33 PM »
"STOP TAKING THIS AWAY FROM ME"
"It didn't happen to you."
"MY PEOPLE"
"It's happened to lots of types of people."
"STOP DENYING MY HUMANITY"

 :social

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #28359 on: August 30, 2022, 07:49:20 PM »
The purity of my culture is tainted by these CACs.  *fails a capoeira backflip in a wolf suit*  *shits pants*

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #28360 on: August 30, 2022, 07:52:57 PM »
Nepenthe (and many others on ResetERA.com) is that kid you played with who always came up with new powers or new rules of which the only consistent theme was that it ensured they always won or got their way.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #28361 on: August 30, 2022, 08:02:38 PM »
"It's happened to lots of types of people."

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #28362 on: August 30, 2022, 08:23:55 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/rian-johnson-is-%E2%80%98even-more-proud%E2%80%99-of-star-wars-the-last-jedi-five-years-on-holy-it%E2%80%99s-been-half-a-decade.626029/

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"I'm even more proud of it five years on," he says. "When I was up at bat, I really swung at the ball." The film, he says, is not just a Star Wars movie – it's a movie about Star Wars, and what it means to fans (himself included). "I think it's impossible for any of us to approach Star Wars without thinking about it as a myth that we were raised with, and how that myth, that story, baked itself into us and affected us," Johnson explains. "The ultimate intent was not to strip away – the intent was to get to the basic, fundamental power of myth. And ultimately I hope the film is an affirmation of the power of the myth of Star Wars in our lives."

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The final images of the movie, to me, are not deconstructing the myth of Luke Skywalker, they're building it, and they're him embracing it," the director explains. "They're him absolutely defying the notion of, 'Throw away the past,' and embracing what actually matters about his myth and what's going to inspire the next generation. So for me, the process of stripping away is always in the interest of getting to something

 :snob :ego

He really sounds in heavy denial. Not even art house directors are this kind of Divas.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #28363 on: August 30, 2022, 08:26:35 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/is-there-a-meme-that-encapsulate-a-game-better-than-this-one.625561/page-3#post-92334664

User Banned (2 Weeks): Posting a Meme Mocking Ethnic Accent

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MGS4 ending spoiler

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:dead

I thought I saw him unbanned in another thread so I went back to see if he did a mea culpa and he actually did :dead

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Hey ERA,

I want to say that i'm sorry for the meme (The MGS4 ending one) i posted here. I didn't realized that a word wasn't okay at all (The word "Like" was replaced with "Rike", which is a mockery about ethnic accent. So, it's pretty much racist). It wasn't my intention at all to post something like this here, and you probably saw me posting that meme a few times on ERA. Now that i realized that something is wrong with that meme, It will obviously never happen again.

i'd like to apologize once again if anyone felt hurt about it, you were absolutely right if that's the case.

Have a great day !

:rofl
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #28364 on: August 30, 2022, 08:36:31 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/leonardo-dicaprio-breaks-up-with-long-time-girlfriend-actress-camilla-morrone.626302/#post-92403382

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This isn't pedophilia....

but it's something...

Yeah, what kind of creep would want to date 20-25 year old models?

spoiler (click to show/hide)
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #28365 on: August 30, 2022, 08:46:07 PM »
Of course Ree finds it creepy that one of Hollywood's biggest stars is fucking models instead of bearded freakshows.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #28366 on: August 30, 2022, 09:03:28 PM »
Weird how they infantalize fully grown, adult women and then turn around and say it is their detractors who are sexist and "mansplaining." Adult women are too stupid to know they were groomed by older men, apparently.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #28367 on: August 30, 2022, 09:07:50 PM »
Spending your twenties cruising through the world on Leonardo DiCaprio's yacht, it's a nightmare. How did he trick those women into this?

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #28368 on: August 30, 2022, 09:08:10 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/is-there-a-meme-that-encapsulate-a-game-better-than-this-one.625561/page-3#post-92334664

User Banned (2 Weeks): Posting a Meme Mocking Ethnic Accent

Quote from: Tridash, post: 92334664, member: 1015
MGS4 ending spoiler

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:dead

I thought I saw him unbanned in another thread so I went back to see if he did a mea culpa and he actually did :dead

Quote from: Tridash, post: 92334664, member: 1015
Edit :

Hey ERA,

I want to say that i'm sorry for the meme (The MGS4 ending one) i posted here. I didn't realized that a word wasn't okay at all (The word "Like" was replaced with "Rike", which is a mockery about ethnic accent. So, it's pretty much racist). It wasn't my intention at all to post something like this here, and you probably saw me posting that meme a few times on ERA. Now that i realized that something is wrong with that meme, It will obviously never happen again.

i'd like to apologize once again if anyone felt hurt about it, you were absolutely right if that's the case.

Have a great day !

:rofl


Yet Desh gets to go free without apologizing.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/is-there-a-meme-that-encapsulate-a-game-better-than-this-one.625561/post-92344225


 :thinking
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #28369 on: August 30, 2022, 09:08:30 PM »
Guys like Leo can afford to do this stuff. You ever read stories about Hugh Hefner? He’d pop a dick pill, lie down, and have a dozen ladies cheer for him to get stiff. They’d do all the work. He’d fall asleep during and they’d quietly sneak away. Leo can continue the lifestyle for another 30 years if he wants to.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/rian-johnson-is-%E2%80%98even-more-proud%E2%80%99-of-star-wars-the-last-jedi-five-years-on-holy-it%E2%80%99s-been-half-a-decade.626029/

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"I'm even more proud of it five years on," he says. "When I was up at bat, I really swung at the ball." The film, he says, is not just a Star Wars movie – it's a movie about Star Wars, and what it means to fans (himself included). "I think it's impossible for any of us to approach Star Wars without thinking about it as a myth that we were raised with, and how that myth, that story, baked itself into us and affected us," Johnson explains. "The ultimate intent was not to strip away – the intent was to get to the basic, fundamental power of myth. And ultimately I hope the film is an affirmation of the power of the myth of Star Wars in our lives."

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The final images of the movie, to me, are not deconstructing the myth of Luke Skywalker, they're building it, and they're him embracing it," the director explains. "They're him absolutely defying the notion of, 'Throw away the past,' and embracing what actually matters about his myth and what's going to inspire the next generation. So for me, the process of stripping away is always in the interest of getting to something

 :snob :ego

He really sounds in heavy denial. Not even art house directors are this kind of Divas.

Ignoring my feelings about it, that movie’s three plus years of his life under heavy stress. Having pride in your work to the point or defensive is normal without that weight.

But also in 2017, you had Logan, War for the Planet of the Apes, and Blade Runner 2049 hitting similar notes on myth. Not all that out there for Star Wars either. Somehow years of the same discussion made it this bold important movie or whatever.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #28370 on: August 30, 2022, 09:11:44 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/is-there-a-meme-that-encapsulate-a-game-better-than-this-one.625561/page-3#post-92334664

User Banned (2 Weeks): Posting a Meme Mocking Ethnic Accent

Quote from: Tridash, post: 92334664, member: 1015
MGS4 ending spoiler

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:dead

I thought I saw him unbanned in another thread so I went back to see if he did a mea culpa and he actually did :dead

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Edit :

Hey ERA,

I want to say that i'm sorry for the meme (The MGS4 ending one) i posted here. I didn't realized that a word wasn't okay at all (The word "Like" was replaced with "Rike", which is a mockery about ethnic accent. So, it's pretty much racist). It wasn't my intention at all to post something like this here, and you probably saw me posting that meme a few times on ERA. Now that i realized that something is wrong with that meme, It will obviously never happen again.

i'd like to apologize once again if anyone felt hurt about it, you were absolutely right if that's the case.

Have a great day !

:rofl


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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #28371 on: August 30, 2022, 09:32:42 PM »
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« Reply #28372 on: August 30, 2022, 09:32:57 PM »
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Ignoring my feelings about it, that movie’s three plus years of his life under heavy stress. Having pride in your work to the point or defensive is normal without that weight.

But it sounds so phony, specially because he knew that if he fucked up everyone would hate him (he probably is thankful that JJ Abrams also shitted the bed). The guy has other projects to be proud but when talking about Star Wars he gets ultra defensive or that “he totally is going to get his trilogy and Disney is not outright canceling it to save face”. Even Lars Von Tier was being ironic with the “I’m the greatest director of the world” quip.

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« Reply #28373 on: August 30, 2022, 10:10:22 PM »

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #28374 on: August 30, 2022, 10:28:56 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/if-youre-watching-or-re-watching-game-of-thrones-beware-of-enormous-spoilers-for-house-of-the-dragon-no-spoilers.625927/#post-92360407

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Ya'll stay safe out there lol.
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« Reply #28375 on: August 30, 2022, 10:33:33 PM »
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2. This tactic only seems to pop up (at least when I notice on this forum ) when it comes to some horrible shit involving black people. I don’t see the black posters on this forum running to other threads about racial issues involving other groups and try to make their tribulations seem small or minute

:awesome

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #28376 on: August 30, 2022, 10:55:00 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-obfuscation-of-minority-and-its-application-in-racial-topics.626164/post-92410606
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I don’t give it any air, because in context to this forum and most times I see it, it’s used to downplay and obfuscate

1. Why are you so coy with your background? I’m Black, I say it with my whole chest. Not an ounce of shame in me claiming that, so it’s a telltale sign that your identity has no relation to the topic at hand

2. This tactic only seems to pop up (at least when I notice on this forum ) when it comes to some horrible shit involving black people. I don’t see the black posters on this forum running to other threads about racial issues involving other groups and try to make their tribulations seem small or minute

3. People fucking lie, there have been a few already caught trying to lie about their background thinking it will give their shitty opinion more weight. It’s the internet.

It's not the internet, it's Resetera - Where your background race is the only thing that matters in leveraging your arguments in the conversation.     

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #28377 on: August 30, 2022, 11:03:48 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-obfuscation-of-minority-and-its-application-in-racial-topics.626164/post-92410606
Quote from: DigitalOP
I don’t give it any air, because in context to this forum and most times I see it, it’s used to downplay and obfuscate

1. Why are you so coy with your background? I’m Black, I say it with my whole chest. Not an ounce of shame in me claiming that, so it’s a telltale sign that your identity has no relation to the topic at hand

2. This tactic only seems to pop up (at least when I notice on this forum ) when it comes to some horrible shit involving black people. I don’t see the black posters on this forum running to other threads about racial issues involving other groups and try to make their tribulations seem small or minute

3. People fucking lie, there have been a few already caught trying to lie about their background thinking it will give their shitty opinion more weight. It’s the internet.

It's not the internet, it's Resetera - Where your background race is the only thing that matters in leveraging your arguments in the conversation.   

I still remember Bobby darkening his pic in his avatar to appear black :lol
Then there's Enzom, the supposed black man that goaded and damn near begged people to call him a 'nicca' online and suddenly disappeared when he was accused of being white.  :neogaf

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #28378 on: August 30, 2022, 11:08:00 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/leonardo-dicaprio-breaks-up-with-long-time-girlfriend-actress-camilla-morrone.626302/page-6#post-92409718

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Make sure to tell your girlfriends how brave and subversive they're being by dating you. Tell them how wise they are for their age and how they have such an old soul unlike other 20 year olds.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #28379 on: August 30, 2022, 11:08:53 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-obfuscation-of-minority-and-its-application-in-racial-topics.626164/post-92410606
Quote from: DigitalOP
I don’t give it any air, because in context to this forum and most times I see it, it’s used to downplay and obfuscate

1. Why are you so coy with your background? I’m Black, I say it with my whole chest. Not an ounce of shame in me claiming that, so it’s a telltale sign that your identity has no relation to the topic at hand

2. This tactic only seems to pop up (at least when I notice on this forum ) when it comes to some horrible shit involving black people. I don’t see the black posters on this forum running to other threads about racial issues involving other groups and try to make their tribulations seem small or minute

3. People fucking lie, there have been a few already caught trying to lie about their background thinking it will give their shitty opinion more weight. It’s the internet.

It's not the internet, it's Resetera - Where your background race is the only thing that matters in leveraging your arguments in the conversation.   

I still remember Bobby darkening his pic in his avatar to appear black :lol
Then there's Enzom, the supposed black man that goaded and damn near begged people to call him a 'nicca' online and suddenly disappeared when he was accused of being white.  :neogaf

Not only disappeared but was made a unperson and treated like never existed.