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When it comes to things like this, remember Hitler didn't cross the line for the West when he was subjugating jews in Germany, it was when he went international and invaded Poland, and he didn't cross the line for the Soviets until he turned around and invaded them.Until there's a Muslim or very muslim friendly superpower that has a vested interest in protecting the rights of muslims abroad then little will change. The US only takes some action because it can be used to undermine China as a geopolitical threat, otherwise we'd look the other way like Yemen.On the international stage the only protection you can count on is yourself. There's no actual world police to run to and there's no one to take true hard action against nuclear powers or any nation backed by one.
I really don't understand why we can't speak to one another like we would in person. I feel like a lot of people even on this very forum are only interested in arguing or being dick heads. If you want to get a lot of replies to a comment you make just make a mistake or state something incorrect. You will get responses for the next 3 days about how you're wrong and "displaying ignorance" or all these other debate bro phrases to just try to be rude to you.Also in game chat it's terrible it's like people go out of their way to hurt you and I just don't understand what makes people like this. It's almost like people delight in others misery. I'm guilty of it in ways too. I often will try to make a joke at other people's expense when they say something silly or incorrect. Is it this normal behavior like are we just inherently this way? I just don't know why it's so easy to tear people down and so difficult to build people up.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-are-people-so-rude-online.626986/QuoteI really don't understand why we can't speak to one another like we would in person. I feel like a lot of people even on this very forum are only interested in arguing or being dick heads. If you want to get a lot of replies to a comment you make just make a mistake or state something incorrect. You will get responses for the next 3 days about how you're wrong and "displaying ignorance" or all these other debate bro phrases to just try to be rude to you.Also in game chat it's terrible it's like people go out of their way to hurt you and I just don't understand what makes people like this. It's almost like people delight in others misery. I'm guilty of it in ways too. I often will try to make a joke at other people's expense when they say something silly or incorrect. Is it this normal behavior like are we just inherently this way? I just don't know why it's so easy to tear people down and so difficult to build people up.
As a mixed race person I’m real tired of hearing that I’m both white passing and don’t experience racism while simultaneously being called a distinguished black fellow by white folks so please believe me when I say I appreciate where you’re coming from but white passing is still something you ascribe to someone. I’m not ignoring racial dynamics, I’m living them every day. White passing assumes everyone sees and treats them as white when that isn’t always true.That isn’t me defending her actions by the way or even speaking to this specific situation, just that the label shouldn’t be stated as an inherent trait
ts a bit of a deeper conversation than on a messageboard but if you’re readily experiencing slurs from passerbys who know you aren’t white I don’t know if that’s what we are discussing here. This is someone who looks unabashedly of European descent literally engaging in White Supremacy is a bit different than someone who looks ethnic as it is presumably in your case. Its fucked up someone questioning who you are, but I don’t think she’s got the problem…she’s clicking white on that census with a quickness, lol.
This is an own goal from the EU liberals and progressives who block EU payments or attempt to block EU payments to Poland on a regular basis.The Poles are right, the Germans wrecked them and the Soviets (meaning East Germany) didn't want to pay up. So after invading Poland with Germany, a Soviet puppet government also signed away their rights to ever be compensated.
QuoteThe US only takes some action because it can be used to undermine China as a geopolitical threat, otherwise we'd look the other way like Yemen.
The US only takes some action because it can be used to undermine China as a geopolitical threat, otherwise we'd look the other way like Yemen.
in the thread title and throughout, it refers directly to "china" rather than the CCP, which is a racist indictment against the innocent people of china rather than their government
Quote... then I have no reason to doubt the accusations. I mean everyone has a right to legal representation, but this guy seems to specialize in just keeping the worst people from facing consequences.That is not how it works you prick.And not, this dude is just a celebrity lawyer, not a fucking mafia fixer you idiot. QuoteDeveloping news, so hard to tell where the true lies.Outing the name of the defender's family member, is absolutely unacceptable though.That's on Haddish.With this I agree. But dude, that the lawyer is a scumbag doesnt mean the other side is telling the truth or have a case. It looks terrible, thought.
... then I have no reason to doubt the accusations. I mean everyone has a right to legal representation, but this guy seems to specialize in just keeping the worst people from facing consequences.
Developing news, so hard to tell where the true lies.Outing the name of the defender's family member, is absolutely unacceptable though.That's on Haddish.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/what-is-happening-with-the-mcu-do-they-not-use-lighting-references-or-something-how-is-this-cgi-happening.627181/As you probably expect, this turns into a "mus protek mahvel" wankfest real fast.
These lists composed of nothing but White Americans are literally comical.
KEFFALS IS IN THE HOUSEhttps://www.resetera.com/threads/steam-delists-domina-after-devs-transphobic-rant-mentioning-keffals-cw-transphobia.627241/Let the bloodbath begin.
Good riddance to bad bigot.Sad that it took this long to get this hatred filled arsehole off of Steam but there we go.
How many splinter forums are there now? They seem to be fighting amongst one another.https://icon-era.com/threads/ot-drama-other-gaming-forums-gaf-resetera-d-pad-etc.864/page-2#post-28432
This is a non-political website about games... take your agenda somewhere else.
QuoteThis is a non-political website about games... take your agenda somewhere else.
Quote from: Maiden Voyage on September 02, 2022, 11:24:38 AMHow many splinter forums are there now? They seem to be fighting amongst one another.https://icon-era.com/threads/ot-drama-other-gaming-forums-gaf-resetera-d-pad-etc.864/page-2#post-28432lol, looks like JordaN tried to get in on it You can find him on the ban pagehttps://icon-era.com/banned-users-list
Quote from: Boredfrom on September 02, 2022, 02:11:18 AMKEFFALS IS IN THE HOUSEhttps://www.resetera.com/threads/steam-delists-domina-after-devs-transphobic-rant-mentioning-keffals-cw-transphobia.627241/Let the bloodbath begin.QuoteGood riddance to bad bigot.Sad that it took this long to get this hatred filled arsehole off of Steam but there we go.TIL there's good bigot.
isn't that keffals a massive piece of shit and nonce who hides behind the shield of being transgender?
reading posts in that thread, if they are true sounds like d-pad is a massive nanny state, silencing their most active users by putting them in mod-approval mode so all their posts have to be approved before they go through, making them leave voluntarily rather than banning them, so their numbers look better
Albatross & excel sheet are slapping at each other.https://www.resetera.com/threads/biden-to-target-maga-republicans-in-prime-time-speech-about-threats-to-democracy-8pm-est-today.627139/page-17#post-92554294
You should be utterly embarrassed by everything you just said here.Your analogy is the grossest thing I've ever been called and I've had transphobic nazis says fucked up shit about me.
While I do agree that all of us can be led by our convictions a little at times, caught in the lie of the algorithm, and put a bit too much emphasis on the opinions of randoms, or sometimes even misreading the tone of something because we take offense at a headline and miss the forest for the trees, I think this post is needlessly long winded and condescending.excelsiorlef is usually on the money when they call out specific things in an article or piece of media in my experience, and while I can sometimes disagree with her take in the context of the full piece, and while I might even agree with you overall in the context of your original exchange, I don't think this post was warranted in the way you made it.
Quote from: excelsiorlefI've literally posted stuff from the NYT that's carrying water for Republicans after the speech I know you have, and the reason you post it is because you want to give the impression that the only coverage of this speech from mainstream sources is unfair, right wing talking points. Your MO is to undermine media literacy, it's pretty much all of your threads, nearly all of your posts. And when you're wrong on something, which you have been, your defense is usually to say "listen, I'm just creating a thread on a videogame forum, are you really going to call me out on that?"The result is really not very different from Rush Limbaugh in the 90s or Sean Hannity in the 2000s. I think your goals are different than their's though. Their goals were to sew distrust in all mainstream media so that they could easily manipulate a large majority of the population into trusting only them as the source of truth. For you, I definitely don't think you have that belief, I think you're coming from a good place, but that you're manipulated by your algorithm or reddit or wherever you get today's "Daily outrage that doesn't tell the full story." It's your gimmick, I get it. I agree with a lot of those complaints too, and get fed up and call out articles that I think are poorly done or in bad faith, but you never, ever, show the full picture. I don't think you do it to be malicious or harmful like someone like Rush or another right wing personality has done -- but the result is the same, "What information can be trusted? Nothing."
I've literally posted stuff from the NYT that's carrying water for Republicans after the speech
User Banned (5 days): inflammatory comparisons
Quote from: excelsiorlefYou should be utterly embarrassed by everything you just said here. I'm not, and I'm happy to tell you why.For current events topics, your corner in this community is criticizing the mainstream media. It's your niche. For current events, it's the bent of most of your threads -- "You should be outraged at how the NYT is covering this story!" But it's always based on a viral tweet, facebook post, reddit link, or whatever, and in most of these circumstances, if you go to the New York Times website or the newspaper, they're not covering the story in the way elicits outrage, they're covering it in a pretty straight, accurate, facts-based approach, and usually there's some addendum of analysis on top of the coverage. But if you read the actual coverage, and not a snippet of an article, or one of the algorithm-driven headlines, or someone synthesizing an article so that it gets upvotes on reddit, you're going to see that the coverage usually doesn't elicit strong feelings or outrage. It's usually informative, accurate, and boring.You think that you're above criticism when you post things that are wrong, because your overall narrative is right -- mainstream media cannot be trusted, so while you might post tweets, articles, selective quotes from a piece, an OpEd, or a tweet by someone who works for a newspaper, or something, even if you're misrepresenting the truth, because you believe so strongly that your narrative (mainstream media cannot be trusted) is right, it justifies posting things that are misleading, innaccurate, not the whole story, etc. Now, of course, we're nobodies... This is a nobody website... we have no influence over anything, we're very unimportant, so the stakes are low for us, but it's the community that we're a part of, but when I think your narrative is wrong, I'm going to come with evidence that shows that it's wrong. I don't think you're a bad person or that you're intentionally acting maliciously (where as I DO think that right wing media personalities ARE bad people and are acting maliciously), I think you're a good person who wants to make the world better, but that you're being manipulated by artificial intelligence that is programmed to appeal to whatever makes you feel most righteous.In the grand scheme of the universe it doesn't matter at all though, we're unimportant people talking about current events on a dying format videogame website, but it is our community, and the reason I stand on my corner (being a shill for what I think is usually pretty good reporting & analysis sources), is because I look at what the "media distrust industry" did on the right wing and I see the spark of this happening on the left wing. I talk about it a lot and spill a lot of words, waste time, about it because I think it's important.I have a strong belief that one of the major reasons that the right wing is so untethered to reality is because of lack of media literacy. There's always been some skepticism of "big city media" or mainstream media from all over the political spectrum, there's always been some hostility usually from the populist parts of left/right in America. Media criticism from presidents isn't new, Kennedy was critical of how the media covered his foreign policy, Lyndon Johnson was critical of how the media covered the Great Society, but Nixon really was the first president to go to war with media in a generation over, first, Vietnam/SE Asia, and then Agnew's scandals, Watergate. Reagan seized on that too, and by the 80s/90s, you had the right wing radio talk show hosts make it their corner on radio talk shows. By 2000 it was a huge media business on the right wing to undermine mainstream, boring, facts-based reporting. And today most of the American right or right-voting public is media illiterate. In the vacuum of reporting, anything can be believed and nothing can be challenged because if it doesn't fit the narrative in your brain, it's just another piece of fake news, dismiss it, and find something that fits the narrative. This partially explains the recurring trend we have on the left of "YouTuber who told me everything I want to hear for the last year is actually a piece of shit." It's like, well, yeah, no shit they are, they're chud nobody had ever heard of a year ago, stumbled upon something that triggered our pleasure receptors, went in hard on that, and then reality comes for a lot of them eventually.Your threads are always very popular, and they should be, you're a good poster who knows how to make engaging posts in this format. You're 100x better than me.What I really wish though is that when you see something on twitter, facebook, reddit, News+, Google News, or wherever, is that instead of coming here to repost it verbatim with the narrative of "The mainstream news cannot be trusted," I want you to pause for 10 minutes, go to the website or the source you're going to criticize, and read/engage/whatever with the complete coverage of that story or the complete coverage from that week. There's still going to be plenty of examples of shit news that you can bury, and I'll join you on those ones (for instance, I totally agree with your criticism of CNN, especially this morning anchor's show, It's garbage infotainment nonsense that probably makes viewers *less informed* for watching it), but I think you'll find that in a lot of the other cases, the actual coverage is not as biased, not as unfair, not as outrage inducing as the ~200 character tweet, screenshot from an article, or the reddit title is.A criticism I have of NYT, WaPo, some of the others, is the ability to write multiple headlines for one article depending on the site it's being posted or picked up on. I hate this. But I think it's a symptom of the problem, not the problem. The problem is the strength that algorithms, artificial intelligence, and companies like Facebook, Twitter, Reddit, etc, have on our news consumption. The symptom of that problem is that NYT/Wapo/Etc have technology that writes multiple headlines for stories based on chasing those recommendation algorithms. I hate that and I'm really critical of it. At the same time I know they have to do it or else they're going the way of the other 1400 newspapers that have closed since Facebook launched in 2004. I hate it, I'm critical of it, but it's the result that algorithms and AI have over our brains. We're victims of it.(side note too, I really like Vox too, but Vox isn't really "Alt news." Vox's founder is AOL-TimeWarner exec Jim Bankoff, the founding editorial team was Ezra Klein from the Washington Post and now at the NYT, Matt Yglesias from the WaPo now I think writing a newsletter or something, Melissa Bell from the WaPo who is still at Vox I think. Joined early by Wall Street Journal alums Kara Swisher, who went onto join the NYT and is now back at Vox, and Walter Mossberg, now retired. THey merged with New York Media which is one of the big establishment current events analysis publishers, owners of New York Magazine. Vox is usually really good, I love their informative docs and some of their deep dives, but they don't hire reporters, or if they do they don't do reporting when they get to Vox. Vox is "new" in that its not a long time NY establishment like The Times or the New Yorker, but they're as mainstream media as anybody else, and they're usually pretty good. If you went to Vox today to get coverage of Biden's speech, you wouldn't find it at least as of early this morning because they don't employ reporters at scale. They did publish something at 9 or 10, and the coverage is pretty similar to the establishment media we're doing laps dunking on)FUCK I'm sorry I know this is way too long and I'm adding more to it, I'm sorry, you don't have to engage with it, it's me rambling. There are places that *don't deserve any benefit of the doubt.*. Those are the usual culprits in the right wing press, Murdoch owned businesses, right wing outlets like Washington Examiner, Washington Times, NYPost, Boston Herald, obviously anything Fox/Nation, and the far right crazy shit. They have no credibility, no reliability, and they never come at anything from good faith. Those outlets, especially the new ones from the last 10 years or so that have exploded, are the result of the 80s/90s/2000s assault on the establishment media. Right now the left doesn't have those reaching the same amount of people that the right does, but I don't think we're immune to it... Like there's not a special gene that makes us immune to that sort of false manipulation, I think it's the bullwark of facts based journalism which most on the left still mostly ascent to that inoculates us from that for now.
You should be utterly embarrassed by everything you just said here.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/biden-to-target-maga-republicans-in-prime-time-speech-about-threats-to-democracy-8pm-est-today.627139/page-16#post-92550949Quote from: The AlbatrossQuote from: excelsiorlefI've literally posted stuff from the NYT that's carrying water for Republicans after the speech I know you have, and the reason you post it is because you want to give the impression that the only coverage of this speech from mainstream sources is unfair, right wing talking points. Your MO is to undermine media literacy, it's pretty much all of your threads, nearly all of your posts. And when you're wrong on something, which you have been, your defense is usually to say "listen, I'm just creating a thread on a videogame forum, are you really going to call me out on that?"The result is really not very different from Rush Limbaugh in the 90s or Sean Hannity in the 2000s. I think your goals are different than their's though. Their goals were to sew distrust in all mainstream media so that they could easily manipulate a large majority of the population into trusting only them as the source of truth. For you, I definitely don't think you have that belief, I think you're coming from a good place, but that you're manipulated by your algorithm or reddit or wherever you get today's "Daily outrage that doesn't tell the full story." It's your gimmick, I get it. I agree with a lot of those complaints too, and get fed up and call out articles that I think are poorly done or in bad faith, but you never, ever, show the full picture. I don't think you do it to be malicious or harmful like someone like Rush or another right wing personality has done -- but the result is the same, "What information can be trusted? Nothing." Edit: Quote User Banned (5 days): inflammatory comparisons That was quick.
Here's the reality it doesn't really matter if they also publish the truth somewhere else in the paper/on the website because they also publish copious amounts of work that denies and undermines the truth.It'd be one thing if the argument was that we're being fed false headlines from fake journalists... but we're not these are real articles from real journalists/columnists being paid for and solicited by these outlets.It's stunning to be told that media literacy is to ignore everything bad mainstream media publishes in order to get the true picture of what these outlets stand for.As a trans woman these outlets certainly will not protect my community... and I think you're naive of you think they'll protect yours.But what do I know apparently I'm Sean Hannity
Every time I start typing a response on Twitter, when I send it Twitter says, "Whoa! Hold your horses! Most people don't send [insert name] messages like that. Are you sure?"Fucking YES I am sure. Be glad I'm not in a more prominent position to call out your fucking bullshit.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/so-who-are-the-most-legendary-actors-actresses-of-all-time.625429/page-2#post-92297695QuoteThese lists composed of nothing but White Americans are literally comical.
But what do I know apparently I'm Sean Hannity
Quote from: Taco Bell Tower on September 02, 2022, 11:12:57 AMhttps://www.resetera.com/threads/so-who-are-the-most-legendary-actors-actresses-of-all-time.625429/page-2#post-92297695QuoteThese lists composed of nothing but White Americans are literally comical. He doesn't even bother adding some black or non-black POCs to the list. Nor does he point out any faults with the people selected. What a bitch.
Ultimately we have different tolerance thresholds in terms of where we believe the good journalism is spoiled by the bad in mainstream outletsUltimately i believe rotten apples spoil the barrel and that these outlets do absolutely nothing to try and prevent having rotten apples in their barrels.Ultimately though you've also chosen to make some deeply personal disparaging comments about me that amount almost entirely removing my agency in terms of my perspective, and basically have decided to stand by them, and you compared me to abhorrent monsters in the process. Pro tip don't compare someone to fascists and then say you only think they don't have the same goals as said fascists.You made what maybe could have been at least a healthy conversation deeply condescending and frankly not worth my timeWhich is kind of ironic in the grand scheme of the topic at hand.
Who made this latest spinoff?
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I think comparison like that can be acknowledged, corrected, and confronted without an outright ban. We have mods calling people morons and stoking conflict in other threads and nothing happens except the posts get deleted. I don’t want to derail this thread anymore, but I think the all or nothing approach and double standards for some is a real issue.But again. Let’s not derail further. Though I’m not sure where this is even possible to discuss.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/biden-to-target-maga-republicans-in-prime-time-speech-about-threats-to-democracy-8pm-est-today.627139/page-18#post-92558674Quote from: excelsiorlefUltimately we have different tolerance thresholds in terms of where we believe the good journalism is spoiled by the bad in mainstream outletsUltimately i believe rotten apples spoil the barrel and that these outlets do absolutely nothing to try and prevent having rotten apples in their barrels.Ultimately though you've also chosen to make some deeply personal disparaging comments about me that amount almost entirely removing my agency in terms of my perspective, and basically have decided to stand by them, and you compared me to abhorrent monsters in the process. Pro tip don't compare someone to fascists and then say you only think they don't have the same goals as said fascists.You made what maybe could have been at least a healthy conversation deeply condescending and frankly not worth my timeWhich is kind of ironic in the grand scheme of the topic at hand.Waited until The Albatross was banned, so she could get the last word.
The Albatross got banned? Welp, I'm outta here. Not optimistic about the trajectory of discourse in this thread.
The post they got banned for was absolutely ban worthy, the comparison they made was ridiculous.
We just don’t need to be attacking each other and calling each other out. We’re on the same page.Edit: Christ I didn’t even see their last post. Fucking hell you call out doom scrollers yet proceed to not only be one but disparage a fellow poster like the toxic folks you rally against.
Compare someone here to Fascist-enablers and see how far that gets you...It was a just ban.
Yah. Between this and the abusive posts from mods in the past weeks that have gone without comment. I’m not a fan. I didn’t agree with their post entirely, but I think banning for that level of disagreement is absurd.Maybe this post will get me in trouble too, but there’s no provided platform for pushback and it’s been a glaring issue the past few months. There needs to be some allowance for discourse that conflicts and there are plenty of options besides just banning. Poor form.
They were banned for a ridiculous comparison, not their posts in general and not just for "disagreement". Please stop ignoring this, it was a horrible comparison to make and the ban was justified. Some of you really need to acknowledge this.
Sorry, but no. If you go as far as to compare a left wing trans person with right wing bigots like that to make your point then you absolutely deserve a ban. It's utterly thoughtless, harmful and horrible, and a 6 day ban to give the user some time to reflect is not only an incredibly benign punishment, but exactly what needs to be done when people cross a line like that.There is absolutely no need to use whataboutism here, either.
Exactly .They spent 1515 words calling out another poster and their history and admitted to rambling and being incoherent. They needed a time out. I respect them for some of their past posts but we don’t need to be attacking each other. Let the MAGA hats do it.
You compared a trans person to fucking Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity. If you can't see why that is embarrassing nobody can help you.EDIT: Didn't see the poster was banned
Albatross is a valuable member of this community, but he deserves his timeout, his post was wildly inappropriate. I hope he uses this time off for some reflection and comes back with his insightful posts on other matters
Albatross is a good dude who needed some time off. He'll come back and everything will be fine. No need to make this a bigger deal than it is, and no need to attack staff over it either.Albatross if you are reading this, use that time to go play Axiom Verge 2. It just came out on PS5 and Steam.In any case, fuck yes let's go midterms. Yall fuckers better go vote lol. Because I can't.
Quote from: Averon on September 02, 2022, 11:42:33 AMWho made this latest spinoff?https://icon-era.com/members/?key=founders
incredibly benign punishment, but exactly what needs to be done
Albatross is mostly a sane poster that somehow has maintained his account. It took getting annoyed by incelsior to get on the crosshair.
Call ‘em what they are, and let them bitch and moan about it. Let them fall flat on their face as they try to argue back.
