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HaughtyFrank

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #30600 on: September 27, 2022, 09:20:29 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/cubans-decided-to-legalize-same-sex-marriage-in-family-code-reform-referendum-67-yes-vs-33-no.636567/post-93941469

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If cuba isn’t a democracy then there are none in this world by any cracked definition you have in your head.

Cuba is probably the most democratic state in the Americas. If you understood how the grassroots and government organizations work in partnership to serve the people of the island, you wouldn’t ask silly questions like “are you calling cuba a democracy”

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Im confused
Cubans cant even vote for another party if they wanted to

that’s because they want the communist party.

Tankie gonna tankie.

Cuba’s one-party communist state outlaws political pluralism, bans independent media, suppresses dissent, and severely restricts basic civil liberties.

Amazing that right after he admits that people aren't allowed to form any parties but actually that's a good thing

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What you want is the 30% who voted NO to gay rights to have the political right to form a party like Republicans so they can advocate for regime change and capitalism to come fuck up the island more. Why would they allow that?

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #30601 on: September 27, 2022, 09:24:55 AM »
Uh Oh, they're turning on Sterling -

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Non-critical support for shitty people just because their critics are also shitty isn't a good look.

And before you ask: Yes, I wasn't interested in this topic (because Dunkey is a shitty person) until someone I generally like (who generally calls out shitty people for being shitty) posted a video in support of the endeavors of said shitty person.


https://www.resetera.com/threads/videogamedunkey-announces-bigmode-a-videogame-publishing-company.634931/page-9

Why are people in that thread acting like Dunkey is a serious journalist not a guy who uploads comedic video game content to YouTube?
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #30602 on: September 27, 2022, 10:41:36 AM »
Cuba is more progressive than the US because while Cuba is legalizing same-sex marriage, the US might someday outlaw it.  :brain

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #30603 on: September 27, 2022, 10:44:10 AM »
A lot of people in that thread talking about how Dunkey has no experience and he has no business starting a game publishing company.  They're right, he should just aim to stock shelves for a living in his late 30s, and sit on the internet and create dossiers of evil people to guise the nihilistic misanthropy into some feeling of moral righteousness.   Don't try for anything.  Don't risk anything.  Just scowl all day long.   Viva Cuba, the One True Democracy.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #30604 on: September 27, 2022, 10:59:26 AM »
Cuba is more progressive than the US because while Cuba is legalizing same-sex marriage, the US might someday outlaw it.  :brain

social media is full of hysterical foaming takes about how america is worse than iran because it's heading toward a theocracy as stifling as theirs but at least islam is good and represents a rich and diverse culture  :dizzy
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #30605 on: September 27, 2022, 11:16:16 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/content-creators-that-ended-up-having-far-right-views.635877/post-93930768

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I gotta be real, what's the point of these sorts of threads except for people to complain about YouTubers they dislike? They're not informative, they're not timely, they cover ground that's been covered a million times before.

Whether they're bigoted or rightwing or not, streamers and YouTubers and social media influencers are all exploitative. Parasocial relationships are inherently exploitative.

Beyond that, these people are just people and have all the faults we all do. Someone are bigger assholes than others, but threads like this don't do anything about that. Especially when most users aren't bringing reciepts.

All these sorts of threads do is reinforce the idea of negative engagement and make us feel superior for a fleeting moment. We'd be better served by focusing on content creators who are wholesome and with fewer blind spots, giving them a spotlight they might not normally recieve due to the fact they don't constantly shoot out inflammatory or spicy takes just to get trending on Twitter.

Seriously, reconsider how you engage with the content you consume and why you have the discussions you do and how best to be the change you want to see in the world. Because, even if you've got good intentions, this ain't it.


Bdumbs is so close to his own "Den of cunts" heel turn. These little screeds that accompany his thread locks are sailing increasingly closer to the "stop being so damn woke" wind.

Era Discords gearing up to accidentally discover his old “nicca moment” post.
Oh they know.  Remember how he made an apology thread for the transphobic, pedo, racist and sexist posts?  Yeah, Ree went we forgive you King and he locked the thread lol

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All these sorts of threads do is reinforce the idea of negative engagement and make us feel superior for a fleeting moment.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #30606 on: September 27, 2022, 11:32:18 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/vladimir-putin-grants-russian-citizenship-to-former-us-security-contractor-edward-snowden.636606/page-5#post-93940872

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Extreme solitary confinement is considered torture by many.

To be frank I find the responses here to be psychotic.

"Yeah he's a whistleblower that exposed the largest illigal surveillance operation in US history, but like have you seen what he posts on Twitter? He should be killed or at least be put away into prison and tortured for the rest of his life 😂🤣"
So you mean his seven days in solitary (I think that was his only stint)? Ok, just want to be sure what you were referring to.

And yeah, no one here has seriously said anything like your quote.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #30607 on: September 27, 2022, 11:34:35 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-last-of-us-hbo-teaser-trailer-coming-2023.636591/page-3#post-93903771

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He's been very involved in the production of this show. What a weird assumption to make.
I’m making fun of the fact that having his name on a trailer is meaningless to the people this needs to appeal to to be successful. Also I think just like Kojima, Druckmann would be better off in Hollywood instead of making games at odds with the gameplay.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #30608 on: September 27, 2022, 11:41:47 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/vladimir-putin-grants-russian-citizenship-to-former-us-security-contractor-edward-snowden.636606/page-5#post-93940872

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Extreme solitary confinement is considered torture by many.

To be frank I find the responses here to be psychotic.

"Yeah he's a whistleblower that exposed the largest illigal surveillance operation in US history, but like have you seen what he posts on Twitter? He should be killed or at least be put away into prison and tortured for the rest of his life 😂🤣"
So you mean his seven days in solitary (I think that was his only stint)? Ok, just want to be sure what you were referring to.

And yeah, no one here has seriously said anything like your quote.
Did he misgendered Snowden? ???

HaughtyFrank

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #30609 on: September 27, 2022, 11:49:33 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/vladimir-putin-grants-russian-citizenship-to-former-us-security-contractor-edward-snowden.636606/page-5#post-93940872

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Quote from: Pasha
Extreme solitary confinement is considered torture by many.

To be frank I find the responses here to be psychotic.

"Yeah he's a whistleblower that exposed the largest illigal surveillance operation in US history, but like have you seen what he posts on Twitter? He should be killed or at least be put away into prison and tortured for the rest of his life 😂🤣"
So you mean his seven days in solitary (I think that was his only stint)? Ok, just want to be sure what you were referring to.

And yeah, no one here has seriously said anything like your quote.
Did he misgendered Snowden? ???

In those posts they were talking about Chelsea Manning

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #30610 on: September 27, 2022, 11:52:35 AM »
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Its funny y'all huffing and puffing about the ones "silenced" by the Cuban government when those ones "silenced" are against same-sex marriage lmao

Fuck me they're stupid.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #30611 on: September 27, 2022, 12:09:01 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/school-defends-gender-rights-of-trans-teacher-with-large-breasts.635655/#post-93778530

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #30612 on: September 27, 2022, 12:13:38 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/mass-protests-have-erupted-in-iran-over-the-death-of-mahsa-amini.634367/page-5#post-93940158

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It burns me with anger that some people around the world seem to care more about the image of their religion than basic human rights.
People are literally getting murdered over here (One guy was killed less than a 100ms away from my house) and this person has the audacity to teach me about the religion I've been forced to study all my life in Iran and pretend that all of the shit show is a "culture" thing.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #30613 on: September 27, 2022, 12:15:06 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-last-of-us-hbo-teaser-trailer-coming-2023.636591/page-3#post-93903771

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He's been very involved in the production of this show. What a weird assumption to make.
I’m making fun of the fact that having his name on a trailer is meaningless to the people this needs to appeal to to be successful. Also I think just like Kojima, Druckmann would be better off in Hollywood instead of making games at odds with the gameplay.

sony ponies absolutely fuming

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #30614 on: September 27, 2022, 12:18:41 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/cubans-decided-to-legalize-same-sex-marriage-in-family-code-reform-referendum-67-yes-vs-33-no.636567/post-93941469

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If cuba isn’t a democracy then there are none in this world by any cracked definition you have in your head.

Cuba is probably the most democratic state in the Americas. If you understood how the grassroots and government organizations work in partnership to serve the people of the island, you wouldn’t ask silly questions like “are you calling cuba a democracy”

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Im confused
Cubans cant even vote for another party if they wanted to

that’s because they want the communist party.

Tankie gonna tankie.

Cuba’s one-party communist state outlaws political pluralism, bans independent media, suppresses dissent, and severely restricts basic civil liberties.

Amazing that right after he admits that people aren't allowed to form any parties but actually that's a good thing

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What you want is the 30% who voted NO to gay rights to have the political right to form a party like Republicans so they can advocate for regime change and capitalism to come fuck up the island more. Why would they allow that?

The worst part of democracy is that people that you don't agree with get to vote too.
« Last Edit: September 27, 2022, 12:25:39 PM by Hap Shaughnessy »
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #30615 on: September 27, 2022, 12:20:12 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/cubans-decided-to-legalize-same-sex-marriage-in-family-code-reform-referendum-67-yes-vs-33-no.636567/post-93941469

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If cuba isn’t a democracy then there are none in this world by any cracked definition you have in your head.

Cuba is probably the most democratic state in the Americas. If you understood how the grassroots and government organizations work in partnership to serve the people of the island, you wouldn’t ask silly questions like “are you calling cuba a democracy”

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Im confused
Cubans cant even vote for another party if they wanted to

that’s because they want the communist party.

Tankie gonna tankie.

Cuba’s one-party communist state outlaws political pluralism, bans independent media, suppresses dissent, and severely restricts basic civil liberties.

Amazing that right after he admits that people aren't allowed to form any parties but actually that's a good thing

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What you want is the 30% who voted NO to gay rights to have the political right to form a party like Republicans so they can advocate for regime change and capitalism to come fuck up the island more. Why would they allow that?

The worst part of democracy is people that you don't agree with get to vote too.

Real sick fuckers, man.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #30616 on: September 27, 2022, 12:21:00 PM »

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-last-of-us-hbo-teaser-trailer-coming-2023.636591/page-3#post-93903771

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?????

He's been very involved in the production of this show. What a weird assumption to make.
I’m making fun of the fact that having his name on a trailer is meaningless to the people this needs to appeal to to be successful. Also I think just like Kojima, Druckmann would be better off in Hollywood instead of making games at odds with the gameplay.

Nah, that ban was deserved. Say what you will about Kojima obsession with cutscenes, but he can polish his fucking games and make genuinely good gameplay loop when he wants too.

Neil Druckmann is overhyped, thought.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #30617 on: September 27, 2022, 12:34:33 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/cubans-decided-to-legalize-same-sex-marriage-in-family-code-reform-referendum-67-yes-vs-33-no.636567/page-3#post-93949902

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Enough with the derail. If you aren't here to discuss the referendum, don't post. Like at all. Don't care which side you're arguing from. This constantly happens, people find ways to turn threads about LGBTQ+ wins into personal political battlegrounds.

How about this? The only people who get to talk shit either way in this thread are people who are either from or actually live in Cuba. So far that's not only none of you but nobody that's been linked too either.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #30618 on: September 27, 2022, 12:38:05 PM »
Bdubs needs a vacation :lol

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #30619 on: September 27, 2022, 12:40:18 PM »
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Don't care which side you're arguing from.

bOtH sIdEs
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #30620 on: September 27, 2022, 12:40:20 PM »
B-Chuds in 6 months: :insane
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #30621 on: September 27, 2022, 12:55:18 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/school-defends-gender-rights-of-trans-teacher-with-large-breasts.635655/#post-93778530

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I genuinly think this has very little to do with trans people, if a cis woman would show up post breast enlargening like this, there would be conversations about it aswell

Ah the classic ‘Close the thread and quietly come around days later to make contentious bans’ strategy. I mean, just look at that hate filled post!

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #30622 on: September 27, 2022, 01:00:01 PM »
do you ever feel like Denethor gazing into his palantir being fed a continuous diet of doom and hopelessness

era watching the world, or us watching era
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #30623 on: September 27, 2022, 01:06:36 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/school-defends-gender-rights-of-trans-teacher-with-large-breasts.635655/#post-93778530

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I genuinly think this has very little to do with trans people, if a cis woman would show up post breast enlargening like this, there would be conversations about it aswell

Ah the classic ‘Close the thread and quietly come around days later to make contentious bans’ strategy. I mean, just look at that hate filled post!

What did Hektor say that was wrong, though?  :confused
Are the mods saying it's transphobic to question why this person is wearing comically huge fake tits in front of students?
« Last Edit: September 27, 2022, 01:14:33 PM by Averon »

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #30624 on: September 27, 2022, 01:14:21 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/what-is-your-favorite-planet.636972/#post-93949623
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definitely not earth, i would not miss it if someone blew up earth and freed me from this mortal coil


https://www.resetera.com/threads/vent-about-minor-stuff-that-annoys-you-regularly.636708/page-4#post-93939402
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when people say "games are supposed to be fun" and all of that stuff, it's just a fundamentally short of imagination thing to say and one wonders how they live their lives
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #30625 on: September 27, 2022, 01:30:38 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/school-defends-gender-rights-of-trans-teacher-with-large-breasts.635655/#post-93778530

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:cop User Banned (Permanently): Dismissing Concerns Around Transphobia; Prior Ban for the Same and Dismissive Commentary
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I genuinly think this has very little to do with trans people, if a cis woman would show up post breast enlargening like this, there would be conversations about it aswell

Ah the classic ‘Close the thread and quietly come around days later to make contentious bans’ strategy. I mean, just look at that hate filled post!

What did Hektor say that was wrong, though?  :confused
Are the mods saying it's transphobic to question why this person is wearing comically huge fake tits in front of students?

That seems to be the conclusion RE arrived at. Even banned the OP for daring to share this story

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #30626 on: September 27, 2022, 01:59:55 PM »
Amazing that right after he admits that people aren't allowed to form any parties but actually that's a good thing

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What you want is the 30% who voted NO to gay rights to have the political right to form a party like Republicans so they can advocate for regime change and capitalism to come fuck up the island more. Why would they allow that?
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Its funny y'all huffing and puffing about the ones "silenced" by the Cuban government when those ones "silenced" are against same-sex marriage lmao

Fuck me they're stupid.
Broken record benji: these lunatics have never read it but Repressive Tolerance is their religion. China, the Soviet Union, Cuba, etc. have all justified the complete suppression of speech on the same grounds, that "right-wing" ("revisionist", "fascist", etc.) speech creates an immediate threat to their "democracy" and national security. What they don't realize out of willful ignorance about their supposed enemies is that the Nazis, Fascists, Pinochet, America, South Korea, Taiwan, etc. did the same thing with "left-wing" ("communist") speech but every single one of those states now effectively admits that they regret it and the people who did that (McCarthy didn't personally but he's the avatar for it in America) are always cast as the villains. The "left" claims to be better than the "right" but continues to adhere to a demand that basic human rights need be suppressed (hopefully by the state) because their free usage is too dangerous to allow including any speech that argues for the equal protection of these human rights and their necessity.

Quote from: Herbert Marcuse
The tolerance expressed in such impartiality serves to minimize or even absolve prevailing intolerance and suppression. If objectivity has anything to do with truth, and if truth is more than a matter of logic and science, then this kind of objectivity is false, and this kind of tolerance inhuman. And if it is necessary to break the established universe of meaning (and the practice enclosed in this universe) in order to enable man to find out what is true and false, this deceptive impartiality would have to be abandoned. The people exposed to this impartiality are no tabulae rasae, they are indoctrinated by the conditions under which they live and think and which they do not transcend. To enable them to become autonomous, to find by themselves what is true and what is false for man in the existing society, they would have to be freed from the prevailing indoctrination (which is no longer recognized as indoctrination). But this means that the trend would have to be reversed: they would have to get information slanted in the opposite direction. For the facts are never given immediately and never accessible immediately; they are established, 'mediated' by those who made them; the truth, 'the whole truth' surpasses these facts and requires the rupture with their appearance. This rupture--prerequisite and token of all freedom of thought and of speech--cannot be accomplished within the established framework of abstract tolerance and spurious objectivity because these are precisely the factors which precondition the mind against the rupture.

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Liberating tolerance, then, would mean intolerance against movements from the Right and toleration of movements from the Left. As to the scope of this tolerance and intolerance: ... it would extend to the stage of action as well as of discussion and propaganda, of deed as well as of word. The traditional criterion of clear and present danger seems no longer adequate to a stage where the whole society is in the situation of the theater audience when somebody cries: 'fire'. It is a situation in which the total catastrophe could be triggered off any moment, not only by a technical error, but also by a rational miscalculation of risks, or by a rash speech of one of the leaders. In past and different circumstances, the speeches of the Fascist and Nazi leaders were the immediate prologue to the massacre. The distance between the propaganda and the action, between the organization and its release on the people had become too short. But the spreading of the word could have been stopped before it was too late: if democratic tolerance had been withdrawn when the future leaders started their campaign, mankind would have had a chance of avoiding Auschwitz and a World War.

The whole post-fascist period is one of clear and present danger. Consequently, true pacification requires the withdrawal of tolerance before the deed, at the stage of communication in word, print, and picture. Such extreme suspension of the right of free speech and free assembly is indeed justified only if the whole of society is in extreme danger. I maintain that our society is in such an emergency situation, and that it has become the normal state of affairs. Different opinions and 'philosophies' can no longer compete peacefully for adherence and persuasion on rational grounds: the 'marketplace of ideas' is organized and delimited by those who determine the national and the individual interest. In this society, for which the ideologists have proclaimed the 'end of ideology', the false consciousness has become the general consciousness--from the government down to its last objects. The small and powerless minorities which struggle against the false consciousness and its beneficiaries must be helped: their continued existence is more important than the preservation of abused rights and liberties which grant constitutional powers to those who oppress these minorities. It should be evident by now that the exercise of civil rights by those who don't have them presupposes the withdrawal of civil rights from those who prevent their exercise, and that liberation of the Damned of the Earth presupposes suppression not only of their old but also of their new masters.

Withdrawal of tolerance from regressive movements before they can become active; intolerance even toward thought, opinion, and word, and finally, intolerance in the opposite direction, that is, toward the self-styled conservatives, to the political Right--these anti-democratic notions respond to the actual development of the democratic society which has destroyed the basis for universal tolerance. The conditions under which tolerance can again become a liberating and humanizing force have still to be created. When tolerance mainly serves the protection and preservation of a repressive society, when it serves to neutralize opposition and to render men immune against other and better forms of life, then tolerance has been perverted. And when this perversion starts in the mind of the individual, in his consciousness, his needs, when heteronomous interests occupy him before he can experience his servitude, then the efforts to counteract his dehumanization must begin at the place of entrance, there where the false consciousness takes form (or rather: is systematically formed)--it must begin with stopping the words and images which feed this consciousness.

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These same conditions render the critique of such tolerance abstract and academic, and the proposition that the balance between tolerance toward the Right and toward the Left would have to be radically redressed in order to restore the liberating function of tolerance becomes only an unrealistic speculation. Indeed, such a redressing seems to be tantamount to the establishment of a "right of resistance" to the point of subversion. There is not, there cannot be any such right for any group or individual against a constitutional government sustained by a majority of the population. But I believe that there is a "natural right" of resistance for oppressed and overpowered minorities to use extralegal means if the legal ones have proved to be inadequate. Law and order are always and everywhere the law and order which protect the established hierarchy; it is nonsensical to invoke the absolute authority of this law and this order against those who suffer from it and struggle against it--not for personal advantages and revenge, but for their share of humanity. There is no other judge over them than the constituted authorities, the police, and their own conscience. If they use violence, they do not start a new chain of violence but try to break an established one.

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Given this situation, I suggested in 'Repressive Tolerance' the practice of discriminating tolerance in an inverse direction, as a means of shifting the balance between Right and Left by restraining the liberty of the Right, thus counteracting the pervasive inequality of freedom (unequal opportunity of access to the means of democratic persuasion) and strengthening the oppressed against the oppressed. Tolerance would be restricted with respect to movements of a demonstrably aggressive or destructive character (destructive of the prospects for peace, justice, and freedom for all). Such discrimination would also be applied to movements opposing the extension of social legislation to the poor, weak, disabled. As against the virulent denunciations that such a policy would do away with the sacred liberalistic principle of equality for 'the other side', I maintain that there are issues where either there is no 'other side' in any more than a formalistic sense, or where 'the other side' is demonstrably 'regressive' and impedes possible improvement of the human condition. To tolerate propaganda for inhumanity vitiates the goals not only of liberalism but of every progressive political philosophy.

If the choice were between genuine democracy and dictatorship, democracy would certainly be preferable. But democracy does not prevail.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #30627 on: September 27, 2022, 02:17:52 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/russia-has-begun-a-full-scale-invasion-in-ukraine-read-staff-posts.556366/page-1732#post-93956766

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #30628 on: September 27, 2022, 02:20:26 PM »
What did Hektor say that was wrong, though?  :confused
Are the mods saying it's transphobic to question why this person is wearing comically huge fake tits in front of students?

It Is Known that this definitely trans because they say so and therefore must accept its definitely not a fetishist person is just living their best life, and to gawk at unnaturally huge fake tits is making them into a spectacle, and thats a paddling transphobic

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« Reply #30629 on: September 27, 2022, 02:21:40 PM »
do you ever feel like Denethor gazing into his palantir being fed a continuous diet of doom and hopelessness

era watching the world, or us watching era

Do you ever feel like a plastic bag
Drifting through the wind, wanting to start again?
Do you ever feel, feel so paper thin
Like a house of cards, one blow from cavin' in?
Do you ever feel already buried deep?
Six feet under screams, but no one seems to hear a thing
Do you know that there's still a chance for you?
'Cause there's a spark in you
You just gotta ignite the light
And let it shine
Just own the night
Like the Fourth of July

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« Reply #30630 on: September 27, 2022, 02:23:34 PM »
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What you want is the 30% who voted NO to gay rights to have the political right to form a party like Republicans so they can advocate for regime change and capitalism to come fuck up the island more. Why would they allow that?

The worst part of democracy is that people that you don't agree with get to vote too.

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« Reply #30631 on: September 27, 2022, 02:30:41 PM »
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Ultimately, like a lot of transphobia, this hurts cis people too. There are cis women who get breast reduction surgery because their boobs are just too big! It's not difficult to imagine a cis woman who uses a binder or some equivalent until surgery is possible, not due to gender feelings, but due to practicality.

But of course, the defining trait of trans exclusionary radical feminists is not that they're feminists, it's that they're anti trans at any cost.
Calling themselves "feminists" is just a shield to accuse anyone who criticises them as misogynists just like calling anyone who supports LGBT-rights groomers and pedophiles.
It's to throw around morally unambigous accusations to keep the pretension of moral righteousness when in fact they are just hateful fashs.

:dunno

If you go and look at JKRs twitter account - who is also accused in the Bitch Eating Crackers OT of being supposedly 'obsessed' with trans people and having 'brain worms' - her most recent tweets are primarily about the murder of an Iranian woman.

Interestingly, None of the twitter profiles posted in the JKR Eating Crackers OT 'dunking' on her, or any of the regular era posters of that thread seem to give a solitary fuck to post about it, staunch 'real' feminists that they are.

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« Reply #30632 on: September 27, 2022, 02:48:48 PM »
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Ultimately, like a lot of transphobia, this hurts cis people too. There are cis women who get breast reduction surgery because their boobs are just too big! It's not difficult to imagine a cis woman who uses a binder or some equivalent until surgery is possible, not due to gender feelings, but due to practicality.

But of course, the defining trait of trans exclusionary radical feminists is not that they're feminists, it's that they're anti trans at any cost.
Calling themselves "feminists" is just a shield to accuse anyone who criticises them as misogynists just like calling anyone who supports LGBT-rights groomers and pedophiles.
It's to throw around morally unambigous accusations to keep the pretension of moral righteousness when in fact they are just hateful fashs.
Two things.

The first regards binders. This is not a "solution" to having breasts that are too big and the claim that this isn't "gender dysphoria" if the problem isn't related to physical pain by the large breasts would support the argument that "gender dysphoria" is not an impossible conception. A woman who finds her breast size dissatisfying is normal, it is not dysphoria of any kind. A woman who finds them dissatisfying to the extent of wanting them to not exist is not an appeal to the validity of trans theories about gender. This post is completely absurd.

The second regards feminism. It's actually possible to read TERF arguments, they're available for free on the internet. I would never claim that all TERFs, especially not all people accused of being TERFs, to be feminists (let alone radical feminists) but those who claim it often very clearly appeal to sex. They consider the "oppression" of females to be specifically sex-based. To deny sex is to deny the existence of this oppression. To claim that males can simply claim the status of females is to deny the existence of this oppression. To claim that trans women are oppressed by cis women who believe in the primacy of sex is to deny the existence of this oppression. I don't think Joanne is a radical feminist, but she's very clearly appealing to the very same sex-based concerns. These feminists consider the violence that women suffer to be a condition of the male sex, not that all males are violent but that male violence against females stems from the power difference via sex. There is no condition in which they consider trans women to escape this power differential because trans women remain males. This is the complaint about allowing trans women (males) into female spaces. Not that all trans women (or cis men) are threats but that the male remains the threat represented by their sex. The argument is that in prioritizing trans womens interests they are prioritizing male desires over female desires and I have yet to see anything other than a blanket dismissal of this argument as somehow bigoted from the "trans rights" activists. I'm not a feminist so I'm not required to accept their premises but by the same token I'm not required to accept those of the "trans right" crowd either, that said only one of these two groups has a clearly logical and rational argument on this point requiring me to effectively "side" with the feminists until the "trans rights" people find a way to conceptualize an argument rather than screaming "transphobe" or "TERF" or "fascist" at liberals who see the conflict of rights claims occurring.

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« Reply #30633 on: September 27, 2022, 02:50:50 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/what-is-your-favorite-planet.636972/#post-93951552

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Mars, largely in part because we’ve been able to see so much of it now. It’s very clearly a dead world and it’s fascinating to think about what may have once been. And it’s honestly a really beautiful planet even in its current state.
Have they ever found ruins or hints at some form of civilization?

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #30634 on: September 27, 2022, 02:55:50 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/russia-has-begun-a-full-scale-invasion-in-ukraine-read-staff-posts.556366/page-1732#post-93956766

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Pretty sure the US destroyed those pipelines. But why?

That's a conspiracy theory but all them looking for globalist bankers, rothchild connections in the women train track cop story aren't?
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« Reply #30635 on: September 27, 2022, 02:57:46 PM »
do you ever feel like Denethor gazing into his palantir being fed a continuous diet of doom and hopelessness

era watching the world, or us watching era

"If you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."
-Distinguished German, Albert Einstein

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« Reply #30636 on: September 27, 2022, 03:00:55 PM »
OBE

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« Reply #30637 on: September 27, 2022, 03:05:24 PM »
do you ever feel like Denethor gazing into his palantir being fed a continuous diet of doom and hopelessness

era watching the world, or us watching era

"If you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."
-Distinguished German, Albert Einstein

what if you gaze at Made In Abyss
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« Reply #30638 on: September 27, 2022, 03:06:28 PM »
do you ever feel like Denethor gazing into his palantir being fed a continuous diet of doom and hopelessness

era watching the world, or us watching era

"If you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."
-Distinguished German, Albert Einstein

what if you gaze at Made In Abyss

Chris Hansen gazes back

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« Reply #30640 on: September 27, 2022, 03:22:34 PM »
What about a Great Reset?
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #30641 on: September 27, 2022, 03:23:57 PM »
When Denethor pops that cherry tomato in his mouth in the movie….
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« Reply #30642 on: September 27, 2022, 03:24:57 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/cubans-decided-to-legalize-same-sex-marriage-in-family-code-reform-referendum-67-yes-vs-33-no.636567/post-93941469

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If cuba isn’t a democracy then there are none in this world by any cracked definition you have in your head.

Cuba is probably the most democratic state in the Americas. If you understood how the grassroots and government organizations work in partnership to serve the people of the island, you wouldn’t ask silly questions like “are you calling cuba a democracy”

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Im confused
Cubans cant even vote for another party if they wanted to

that’s because they want the communist party.

Tankie gonna tankie.

Cuba’s one-party communist state outlaws political pluralism, bans independent media, suppresses dissent, and severely restricts basic civil liberties.

Amazing that right after he admits that people aren't allowed to form any parties but actually that's a good thing

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What you want is the 30% who voted NO to gay rights to have the political right to form a party like Republicans so they can advocate for regime change and capitalism to come fuck up the island more. Why would they allow that?

As of 2021, Cuba was ranked 142 out of 167 on the democracy index, designating it as authoritarian and only beating out Venezuela in all of Latin America.  The idea that Cuba is a democracy in any way, shape or form is absurdly fringe, regardless of how this referendum turned out.

At this point, I'd rather they just say they'd like "benevolent" authoritarianism over democracy.  Don't try to convince people that a thing is actually a different thing just because it's not widely acceptable to like that thing.

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« Reply #30643 on: September 27, 2022, 03:31:30 PM »
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Ultimately, like a lot of transphobia, this hurts cis people too. There are cis women who get breast reduction surgery because their boobs are just too big! It's not difficult to imagine a cis woman who uses a binder or some equivalent until surgery is possible, not due to gender feelings, but due to practicality.

But of course, the defining trait of trans exclusionary radical feminists is not that they're feminists, it's that they're anti trans at any cost.
Calling themselves "feminists" is just a shield to accuse anyone who criticises them as misogynists just like calling anyone who supports LGBT-rights groomers and pedophiles.
It's to throw around morally unambigous accusations to keep the pretension of moral righteousness when in fact they are just hateful fashs.
Two things.

The first regards binders. This is not a "solution" to having breasts that are too big and the claim that this isn't "gender dysphoria" if the problem isn't related to physical pain by the large breasts would support the argument that "gender dysphoria" is not an impossible conception. A woman who finds her breast size dissatisfying is normal, it is not dysphoria of any kind. A woman who finds them dissatisfying to the extent of wanting them to not exist is not an appeal to the validity of trans theories about gender. This post is completely absurd.

The second regards feminism. It's actually possible to read TERF arguments, they're available for free on the internet. I would never claim that all TERFs, especially not all people accused of being TERFs, to be feminists (let alone radical feminists) but those who claim it often very clearly appeal to sex. They consider the "oppression" of females to be specifically sex-based. To deny sex is to deny the existence of this oppression. To claim that males can simply claim the status of females is to deny the existence of this oppression. To claim that trans women are oppressed by cis women who believe in the primacy of sex is to deny the existence of this oppression. I don't think Joanne is a radical feminist, but she's very clearly appealing to the very same sex-based concerns. These feminists consider the violence that women suffer to be a condition of the male sex, not that all males are violent but that male violence against females stems from the power difference via sex. There is no condition in which they consider trans women to escape this power differential because trans women remain males. This is the complaint about allowing trans women (males) into female spaces. Not that all trans women (or cis men) are threats but that the male remains the threat represented by their sex. The argument is that in prioritizing trans womens interests they are prioritizing male desires over female desires and I have yet to see anything other than a blanket dismissal of this argument as somehow bigoted from the "trans rights" activists. I'm not a feminist so I'm not required to accept their premises but by the same token I'm not required to accept those of the "trans right" crowd either, that said only one of these two groups has a clearly logical and rational argument on this point requiring me to effectively "side" with the feminists until the "trans rights" people find a way to conceptualize an argument rather than screaming "transphobe" or "TERF" or "fascist" at liberals who see the conflict of rights claims occurring.

As far as I see it, one side is being all-or-nothing with the issue, and it's preventing anyone from making any progress.  If one has a healthy concern that trans women in female prisons present a liability for other biologically female inmates, that doesn't preclude that one from being supportive of trans people in other ways, or even accepting that trans women are women.  It doesn't have to be all or nothing -- but the implication for the other side is that if you don't accept a perfect one-to-one conceptual match of trans women as women, then you're anti-trans and negating their identity.  Someone can accept them as women, but still concede that there are biological differences -- but to trans-rights activists, if there are biological differences, there can never be a practical situation where they matter.  There is no obligation to prove that they don't matter, because that's degrading and denies their existence.   To the average person, certain things are just unreasonable with the accepted condition of what makes someone trans.  A trans woman wearing female clothes and presenting as trans is certainly reasonable. A trans woman presenting as female and using a woman's bathroom is certainly reasonable.  But huge, "manly" transwomen claiming to be trans, sharing the same space in female prisons is an obvious liability to anyone with common sense.   Maybe it could be deemed that trans women can compete in women's leagues in certain sports, but not combat sports.  That nuance isn't allowed because you're destroying their identity, but it doesn't have to be framed that way.  They can still be considered women, albeit with a qualifier -- but that isn't allowed.  It doesn't have to be like this, they could budge on the issue.

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« Reply #30644 on: September 27, 2022, 03:45:49 PM »
Uh Oh, they're turning on Sterling -

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Non-critical support for shitty people just because their critics are also shitty isn't a good look.

And before you ask: Yes, I wasn't interested in this topic (because Dunkey is a shitty person) until someone I generally like (who generally calls out shitty people for being shitty) posted a video in support of the endeavors of said shitty person.


https://www.resetera.com/threads/videogamedunkey-announces-bigmode-a-videogame-publishing-company.634931/page-9

Why are people in that thread acting like Dunkey is a serious journalist not a guy who uploads comedic video game content to YouTube?
Because the so-called serious video game journalists actually also upload comedic video game content, people like Dunkey just intend it to be comedic...
« Last Edit: September 27, 2022, 04:09:13 PM by Potato »
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« Reply #30645 on: September 27, 2022, 04:21:04 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/cubans-decided-to-legalize-same-sex-marriage-in-family-code-reform-referendum-67-yes-vs-33-no.636567/post-93941469

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If cuba isn’t a democracy then there are none in this world by any cracked definition you have in your head.

Cuba is probably the most democratic state in the Americas. If you understood how the grassroots and government organizations work in partnership to serve the people of the island, you wouldn’t ask silly questions like “are you calling cuba a democracy”

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Im confused
Cubans cant even vote for another party if they wanted to

that’s because they want the communist party.

Tankie gonna tankie.

Cuba’s one-party communist state outlaws political pluralism, bans independent media, suppresses dissent, and severely restricts basic civil liberties.

Amazing that right after he admits that people aren't allowed to form any parties but actually that's a good thing

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What you want is the 30% who voted NO to gay rights to have the political right to form a party like Republicans so they can advocate for regime change and capitalism to come fuck up the island more. Why would they allow that?

The worst part of democracy is that people that you don't agree with get to vote too.
Don't know what you're complaining about. Cuba, like the most democratic State in Africa (Wakanda), is a utopia compared to that ethno-religious-fascist State called Trump's USA.
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« Reply #30646 on: September 27, 2022, 04:24:55 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/school-defends-gender-rights-of-trans-teacher-with-large-breasts.635655/#post-93778530

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I genuinly think this has very little to do with trans people, if a cis woman would show up post breast enlargening like this, there would be conversations about it aswell

Ah the classic ‘Close the thread and quietly come around days later to make contentious bans’ strategy. I mean, just look at that hate filled post!

What did Hektor say that was wrong, though?  :confused
Are the mods saying it's transphobic to question why this person is wearing comically huge fake tits in front of students?
Prior experience has taught the mods that, in trans threads, it's better to ban everybody who doesn't agree with the screeching idiots.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #30647 on: September 27, 2022, 04:28:21 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/cubans-decided-to-legalize-same-sex-marriage-in-family-code-reform-referendum-67-yes-vs-33-no.636567/post-93941469

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If cuba isn’t a democracy then there are none in this world by any cracked definition you have in your head.

Cuba is probably the most democratic state in the Americas. If you understood how the grassroots and government organizations work in partnership to serve the people of the island, you wouldn’t ask silly questions like “are you calling cuba a democracy”

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Im confused
Cubans cant even vote for another party if they wanted to

that’s because they want the communist party.

Tankie gonna tankie.

Cuba’s one-party communist state outlaws political pluralism, bans independent media, suppresses dissent, and severely restricts basic civil liberties.

Amazing that right after he admits that people aren't allowed to form any parties but actually that's a good thing

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What you want is the 30% who voted NO to gay rights to have the political right to form a party like Republicans so they can advocate for regime change and capitalism to come fuck up the island more. Why would they allow that?

As of 2021, Cuba was ranked 142 out of 167 on the democracy index, designating it as authoritarian and only beating out Venezuela in all of Latin America.  The idea that Cuba is a democracy in any way, shape or form is absurdly fringe, regardless of how this referendum turned out.

At this point, I'd rather they just say they'd like "benevolent" authoritarianism over democracy.  Don't try to convince people that a thing is actually a different thing just because it's not widely acceptable to like that thing.

FACT CHECK: Cuba is a "people's Democracy" that implements with the will of the people directly, without a need for elections that are easily stolen.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #30648 on: September 27, 2022, 04:30:05 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/how-long-do-i-have-to-be-silent-before-next-door-goes-away.637119/

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Edit: OP is a prominent They/them/their.  Also a furry (goes without saying)
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« Reply #30649 on: September 27, 2022, 04:33:58 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/how-long-do-i-have-to-be-silent-before-next-door-goes-away.637119/

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Reeeeeesetera: ACAB. Fuck the police. Defund the police.

Resetera: Call the cops
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« Reply #30650 on: September 27, 2022, 04:34:47 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/how-long-do-i-have-to-be-silent-before-next-door-goes-away.637119/

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Was just coming post this.

Has to be a troll surely?

:jeanluc

EDIT You can see that person is actually insane the more they post in that thread

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« Last Edit: September 27, 2022, 04:39:31 PM by Vertigo »

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« Reply #30651 on: September 27, 2022, 04:36:31 PM »
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Call the police, Era can't help you

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Ah. That's the thing. I have. Many times.

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And what did they do?? Why are you asking us? This is legit a CRIME
Beat the shit out of me.

I have a suspicion there is more to this story...

btw. the same person who recently went on about how Zack Snyder loves rape and then got people banned when they disagreed. I doubt they're well adjusted

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« Reply #30652 on: September 27, 2022, 04:40:52 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/how-long-do-i-have-to-be-silent-before-next-door-goes-away.637119/

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this is now gone
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« Reply #30653 on: September 27, 2022, 04:42:36 PM »
Thread nuked

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« Reply #30654 on: September 27, 2022, 04:48:30 PM »
well, nuked to the members only area, it's still there
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« Reply #30655 on: September 27, 2022, 04:51:37 PM »
Thread unclear, broke into my neighbors house again.
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« Reply #30656 on: September 27, 2022, 04:59:29 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/school-defends-gender-rights-of-trans-teacher-with-large-breasts.635655/#post-93778530

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I genuinly think this has very little to do with trans people, if a cis woman would show up post breast enlargening like this, there would be conversations about it aswell
They finally took the pedo down :success

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« Reply #30657 on: September 27, 2022, 05:02:13 PM »
It’s wild that legit lunatics like TheGummyBear are the type of people that sort of dictate who gets banned and who doesn’t on that forum. The entire community is basically catered to the whims of people who need serious mental help, people that can barely even function in the real world.
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« Reply #30658 on: September 27, 2022, 05:09:04 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/how-long-do-i-have-to-be-silent-before-next-door-goes-away.637119/

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this is now gone
It's locked too
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It's clear OP is going through some very rough stuff at the moment. However, in times like these it's best to contact the relevant authorities and perhaps seek professional counselling to address the trauma that this person has gone through. While people online may mean well and can help through rough times, in these situations bad advice, though well-meaning, can do more harm than good.

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« Reply #30659 on: September 27, 2022, 05:17:26 PM »
That gummy person seriously has to be trolling, right?  Claims to have a cousin aka ACAB and didn't do anything about it.