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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #32040 on: October 18, 2022, 09:53:29 AM »
They’re advocating for a world where past comments can invalidate current unrelated injustices. Surely some of them are smart enough to realize how this can be used against them too. Remember when B-dubs was dropping N-bombs?
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #32041 on: October 18, 2022, 10:14:14 AM »
they offered her the union rate....

how is that on them at this point lol?

Yeah there's a reason why if you look up any well-known VA's filmography they usually have 100+ acting credits across video-games, animation, and live-action. You don't get paid exorbitantly but because you're able to knock out a job pretty quickly it means you can line up new work much faster than an actor might, and it's a much much easier job in terms of stress. Plus if the thing you worked on becomes a hit you can do that comic-con thing and get paid multiple times more than you made in the first place by signing autographs for nerd losers.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #32042 on: October 18, 2022, 10:25:12 AM »
They’re advocating for a world where past comments can invalidate current unrelated injustices. Surely some of them are smart enough to realize how this can be used against them too. Remember when B-dubs was dropping N-bombs?

No no, you see, bringing up bdubs past internet crimes is participating in a hate campaign.  When resetera users do the same thing to someone else it’s justice or whatever.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #32043 on: October 18, 2022, 10:33:26 AM »
they offered her the union rate....

how is that on them at this point lol?

Yeah there's a reason why if you look up any well-known VA's filmography they usually have 100+ acting credits across video-games, animation, and live-action. You don't get paid exorbitantly but because you're able to knock out a job pretty quickly it means you can line up new work much faster than an actor might, and it's a much much easier job in terms of stress. Plus if the thing you worked on becomes a hit you can do that comic-con thing and get paid multiple times more than you made in the first place by signing autographs for nerd losers.

the only thing I would question in this case is if it's a flat rate $4k until the job is done vs. $1k for each day of work until the job is done
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #32044 on: October 18, 2022, 10:43:42 AM »
they offered her the union rate....

how is that on them at this point lol?

FFS, Chud, get a grip! You’re way behind. We’re now talking about a union supported genocide of trans people!

 :social

Side Note: How do some of the more sane ones not looking at the direction and result of that thread and go… “Get me off this board.”?

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #32045 on: October 18, 2022, 11:15:29 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/hellena-taylor-breaks-nda-to-explain-why-she%E2%80%99s-not-back-for-bayonetta-3-was-only-offered-a-4k-buyout-for-vo-work-after-renegotiating-from-even-less.643764/page-50#post-94937157
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This same person already said that she isnt well financially and maybe Nintendo, one of the most harsh companies about NDA/rights maybe will come after her.
I heard of a way she could’ve made a pretty easy $4k…


https://www.resetera.com/threads/hellena-taylor-breaks-nda-to-explain-why-she%E2%80%99s-not-back-for-bayonetta-3-was-only-offered-a-4k-buyout-for-vo-work-after-renegotiating-from-even-less.643764/page-81#post-95000472
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Gotta say it's very amusing seeing the difference between this thread and the preview thread. The other thread is doing their very best to shrug away this issue and some are even acting like she shouldn't have been "spiteful" and should have gotten the bare minimum as payment cause that's the standard.

Despite many people here saying that accepting the bare minimum of $4k after getting lowballed by even lower offers by the company beforehand is an insult.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #32046 on: October 18, 2022, 11:17:55 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/new-apex-legends-legend-catalyst-is-a-trans-woman.644304/#post-95009136
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« Reply #32047 on: October 18, 2022, 11:20:27 AM »
As usual, instead of having a moment of introspection, ree mods took literally the worst possible action by siding with the crazies screeching about the genocide Hellena was committing by her *checks notes* Twitter follows… :wut  :snoop
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #32048 on: October 18, 2022, 11:20:56 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/new-apex-legends-legend-catalyst-is-a-trans-woman.644304/#post-95009136
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3 months!

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #32049 on: October 18, 2022, 11:24:48 AM »
Way to be intolerable to transphobia by not perm ban the posters and only slapping 3 months.  Great forum, B-Dubs

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« Reply #32050 on: October 18, 2022, 11:27:58 AM »
I'm just heart broken that TERF BITCH JOANNE influenced Bayonetta into her cult.  I'm going to uninstall Bayonetta 1 from the Xbox and smash the Wii-U games like that guy who torn their Harry Potter books while their cat looks in disbelief with a messy food area.  Fuck! :stahp

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #32051 on: October 18, 2022, 12:02:02 PM »
Another RoosterTeeth video

Trying to take the moral high ground after saying all this shit  :dead

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« Reply #32052 on: October 18, 2022, 12:13:07 PM »
Well we'll just have to wait for Kdin to address it, and in the meantime that shouldn't take away from the stories that have been coming out from a large number of employees.

plz ban for downplaying racism  :punch

That's a lot, couldn't get through the whole video, only managed to get half way. I wonder how Kdin squares the homophobic abuse she received with the homophobic slurs she repeatedly used as seen in this video. Maybe internalised self hatred or queerphobia to fit in with the bigoted crowd.

plz ban for making up excuses for racism  :punch

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #32053 on: October 18, 2022, 12:26:07 PM »
Well we'll just have to wait for Kdin to address it, and in the meantime that shouldn't take away from the stories that have been coming out from a large number of employees.

plz ban for downplaying racism  :punch

That's a lot, couldn't get through the whole video, only managed to get half way. I wonder how Kdin squares the homophobic abuse she received with the homophobic slurs she repeatedly used as seen in this video. Maybe internalised self hatred or queerphobia to fit in with the bigoted crowd.

plz ban for making up excuses for racism  :punch

Since digging up past discretions is now fair game to dismiss current day issues, shouldn't those posters be banned for "dismissing" concerns? ???
But this person's trans, so that makes it different, right?  :brain

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #32054 on: October 18, 2022, 12:26:28 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/silent-hill-series-latest-updates-will-be-revealed-during-the-silenthill-transmission-on-wednesday-october-19th-at-2-00-pm-pdt.644109/page-3#post-94972728

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The first one is the Masahiro Ito game, which is way more exciting than the demake.
How miserable do you have to be to keep this shit up in every single thread?
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #32055 on: October 18, 2022, 12:29:12 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/ezra-miller-they-them-crimes-ot-the-stories-go-here-and-nowhere-else-wb-considering-3-options-for-flash-release.617877/page-13#post-95007219

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Might not even be able to attend his own movie premiere if he's in prison lol
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #32056 on: October 18, 2022, 12:32:00 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/amouranth-reveals-on-stream-all-the-abuse-she-has-received-from-her-husband-insults-control-over-her-money-forcing-her-to-pretend-to-be-single.643959/#post-94948608

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Did we make an official decision of using that All in One Streamer Thread for stuff like this?
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #32057 on: October 18, 2022, 12:46:24 PM »
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Definitely. This doesn't take away from the things currently happening right now, but boy it's not a good look. I feel like a lot of people will now totally disregard everything that she currently brought to light with these old clips.

If Twitter follows are enough to be labeled a "TERF bitch" and everything they said disregarded, then videos making slurs as a grown man surely qualify, right?

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #32058 on: October 18, 2022, 12:54:51 PM »
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Definitely. This doesn't take away from the things currently happening right now, but boy it's not a good look. I feel like a lot of people will now totally disregard everything that she currently brought to light with these old clips.

If Twitter follows are enough to be labeled a "TERF bitch" and everything they said disregarded, then videos making slurs as a grown man surely qualify, right?

It was obviously the internalized trans/homophobia that made her say those heinous things, shitlord  :ufup
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #32059 on: October 18, 2022, 02:12:01 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/1999-was-a-hell-of-a-year-for-movies.644745/#post-95074752

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I liked The Phantom Menace more than every other movie in the OP.

Except South Park.

Bold to publicly admit to being a simpleton like that.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #32060 on: October 18, 2022, 03:35:41 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-jury-has-reached-a-decision-in-the-death-penalty-trial-of-the-parkland-school-shooter.643029/page-4#post-94814937

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I absolutely despise the mentally ill defense. Anyone who decides to intentionally murder an innocent human being, is mentally ill. That should not effect the sentencing!
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #32062 on: October 18, 2022, 03:41:24 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-jury-has-reached-a-decision-in-the-death-penalty-trial-of-the-parkland-school-shooter.643029/page-4#post-94814937

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I absolutely despise the mentally ill defense. Anyone who decides to intentionally murder an innocent human being, is mentally ill. That should not effect the sentencing!
This is what happens when having a mental illness is regarded as desirable because it gives you points in the oppression Olympics. Suddenly everyone is splitting good/bad mental illnesses.

Then again, good luck using that defense in the Kanye West thread (also documented having mental issues and being an asshole;  but not being an actual child murderer).

Is la RE is not consistent or something.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #32063 on: October 18, 2022, 03:44:30 PM »
they offered her the union rate....

how is that on them at this point lol?

FFS, Chud, get a grip! You’re way behind. We’re now talking about a union supported genocide of trans people!

 :social

Side Note: How do some of the more sane ones not looking at the direction and result of that thread and go… “Get me off this board.”?
They don't leave because where else are you going to find a community of concentrated autism that will catalogue video game news 24/7?
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #32064 on: October 18, 2022, 03:47:18 PM »
they offered her the union rate....

how is that on them at this point lol?

FFS, Chud, get a grip! You’re way behind. We’re now talking about a union supported genocide of trans people!

 :social

Side Note: How do some of the more sane ones not looking at the direction and result of that thread and go… “Get me off this board.”?
They don't leave because where else are you going to find a community of concentrated autism that will catalogue video game news 24/7?

Its not even good at that anymore lol.

There are games releasing that I never heard of probably because its buried under the latest "random internet idiot says a bad" thread

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #32065 on: October 18, 2022, 03:48:35 PM »
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Whether she lied or not, Platinum offered over scale or not, she's a terf or not, etc. the core issue here is that creatives within the video game industry deserve better compensation, specifically residuals/profit sharing on the back end.

This isn't just a VG issue but it is one the VG industry is especially egregious about. If a person is putting meaningful creative effort into a product they deserve to reap commensurate rewards when and if that product is a success.

When the VA union went on strike a few years ago I didn't think this way and fell into the trap of "well, if them then what about the artists, coders, etc.?" I was missing the point. The artists, coders, etc. ABSOLUTELY deserve residuals, generally a larger share than VA who have a far smaller time commitment than the core creatives on these games.

The exploitation of this industry isn't limited to using slave labor in China to build consoles.

Capitalist enterprise steals labors of love to not just commercialize but to commercialize with no meaningful compensation requirements to the artists who made them whenever possible. This parasitic dynamic and the fact that consumers only access the content through the gateways constructed by the exploiters is, in my opinion, at the root of the toxic culture present and clearly growing within mainstream media fandoms.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/bloomberg-a-tense-pay-dispute-overshadows-nintendo’s-upcoming-bayonetta-3.644811/page-11

We are talking about a game where a titty witch strips herself to kill angels and demons.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #32066 on: October 18, 2022, 03:59:25 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/bloomberg-a-tense-pay-dispute-overshadows-nintendo’s-upcoming-bayonetta-3.644811/page-8#post-95083644

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Haven’t had time to read the article, but wonder what all those peeps yesterday who were dismissing transphobic rhetoric feel right now.

That’s exactly the moral of the story here  :gaas :social2
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #32067 on: October 18, 2022, 04:01:36 PM »
how is it evil greedy capitalist to underpay workers but not evil greedy capitalist to expect more than a fair wage, for a voice actor to expect movie star pay of millions, when we've already established there's no such thing as a good multimillionaire
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #32068 on: October 18, 2022, 04:06:30 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/bloomberg-a-tense-pay-dispute-overshadows-nintendo’s-upcoming-bayonetta-3.644811/page-12#post-95085804

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All of the people Hellena Taylor follows who are flagged as "anti-trans" in Shinigami Eyes. I use the colorblind filter option, so the color I have set means anti trans.

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Special mention to the likes of Caroline Farrow, who actively runs an anti-trans organization with CitzenGo that accepts donations to "fight ideology." Trump Jr isn't a very good look either.

She had a few pro-trans followers, but those were people like Ian McKellen that she likely would have followed incidentally as part of her primary career as an actor.

Wow. Such a great plug-in! Might I suggest adding triple parentheses around the name of each TERF BITCH for even easier readability?
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #32069 on: October 18, 2022, 04:12:20 PM »
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Wait how is that THE core issue? Are we just going to turn our heads and pretend like the evidence does not makes it clear Hellena was very clearly coasting on this discussion to spread misinformation and stir up the fanbase behind her unjustified claims?

This is absolutely not the core issue *right now*.

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Given what little insight/comment Taylor has given on her situation indicates that she's basically broke and not finding much work period, and that the context of that indicates that Bayo in Smash likely just reused assets and she wasn't compensated for that already completed work, we're left with a woman who is likely on hard times behaving poorly.

It is a statistical fact that poverty leads to crime and a reduction in poverty/financial hardship reduces criminal behavior. Why wouldn't poverty or financial hardship instigate this kind of behavior as well?

Would Helena Taylor, having gotten some small fraction of a percent off each Bayonetta DLC sold for Smash, have been so quick to burn bridges? A life altering amount of money for her is a rounding error on Nintendo's Smash DLC revenue sheet. If I was to speculate further I'd say that her "half billion" claim is in some way tied to Smash, as Bayo 1 and 2 sure as hell don't get there.

People act poorly when they live on the edge. Capitalist enterprises actively push people to that edge. Fair compensation, which needs to include residuals for creative contributions, is the vehicle protecting individuals.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #32070 on: October 18, 2022, 04:15:43 PM »
Quote from: Drek
Whether she lied or not, Platinum offered over scale or not, she's a terf or not, etc. the core issue here is that creatives within the video game industry deserve better compensation, specifically residuals/profit sharing on the back end.

This isn't just a VG issue but it is one the VG industry is especially egregious about. If a person is putting meaningful creative effort into a product they deserve to reap commensurate rewards when and if that product is a success.

When the VA union went on strike a few years ago I didn't think this way and fell into the trap of "well, if them then what about the artists, coders, etc.?" I was missing the point. The artists, coders, etc. ABSOLUTELY deserve residuals, generally a larger share than VA who have a far smaller time commitment than the core creatives on these games.

The exploitation of this industry isn't limited to using slave labor in China to build consoles.

Capitalist enterprise steals labors of love to not just commercialize but to commercialize with no meaningful compensation requirements to the artists who made them whenever possible. This parasitic dynamic and the fact that consumers only access the content through the gateways constructed by the exploiters is, in my opinion, at the root of the toxic culture present and clearly growing within mainstream media fandoms.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/bloomberg-a-tense-pay-dispute-overshadows-nintendo’s-upcoming-bayonetta-3.644811/page-11

We are talking about a game where a titty witch strips herself to kill angels and demons.
It is a fact that changing a voice actor in a video game will not affect sales in any way. As a result, video game voice actors have absolutely no leverage to demand better compensation, residuals or profit sharing.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #32071 on: October 18, 2022, 04:17:08 PM »
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Haven’t had time to read the article, but wonder what all those peeps yesterday who were dismissing transphobic rhetoric feel right now.

Umm...I'm pretty sure you and your pals got them all banned slamming the report button, many of them for months. :lol

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #32072 on: October 18, 2022, 04:20:34 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/bloomberg-a-tense-pay-dispute-overshadows-nintendo’s-upcoming-bayonetta-3.644811/page-12#post-95085804

Quote from: Android Sophia, post: 95085804, member: 156
All of the people Hellena Taylor follows who are flagged as "anti-trans" in Shinigami Eyes. I use the colorblind filter option, so the color I have set means anti trans.

(Image removed from quote.)

Special mention to the likes of Caroline Farrow, who actively runs an anti-trans organization with CitzenGo that accepts donations to "fight ideology." Trump Jr isn't a very good look either.

She had a few pro-trans followers, but those were people like Ian McKellen that she likely would have followed incidentally as part of her primary career as an actor.

Wow. Such a great plug-in! Might I suggest adding triple parentheses around the name of each TERF BITCH for even easier readability?

Kind of defeating the whole "OMG RED FLAG" purpose when the fucking pope is among them.

Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #32073 on: October 18, 2022, 04:20:36 PM »
https://twitter.com/jeremysmiles/status/1582114061612785666

I don't have that much of an opinion on this specific case since I haven't fully looked into it.  Maybe Taylor is lying, I don't know.  Just funny how people are selective in their morals for stuff like this while getting mad at others being selective.  If bad people have the right to not be misgendered, it stands to reason they also have the right to be paid a living wage.

Side note: I like how there's an extension to find anti-lgbt people on social media called "Shinigami Eyes". You know, the tool that a villain used to identify his enemies so he could kill them.  Surely we're the moral ones for being on the side of Light Yagami!

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #32074 on: October 18, 2022, 04:24:34 PM »
These people are fucking monsters.  They have no compassion for anyone they immediately turn on and deem the 'other'.   This is a conversation about ethical wages for labor and they can't help themselves.  Sick, broken people. 

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #32075 on: October 18, 2022, 04:27:39 PM »
https://twitter.com/jeremysmiles/status/1582114061612785666

I don't have that much of an opinion on this specific case since I haven't fully looked into it.  Maybe Taylor is lying, I don't know.  Just funny how people are selective in their morals for stuff like this while getting mad at others being selective.  If bad people have the right to not be misgendered, it stands to reason they also have the right to be paid a living wage.

Just compare their reaction to Erza Miller's. It took months of Erza Miller committing weird, creepy acts with under-aged girls before ERA finally stopped giving him well wishes about his mental health. And even to this day they still ban you if you dare misgender him accidentally.
But this VA was labeled a TERF bitch, so anything and everything bad that happens to her is fair game in their eyes.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #32076 on: October 18, 2022, 04:54:54 PM »
That's another thing.  "Don't police language" and "you MUST use these words when referring to people" are mutually exclusive concepts.  Even if you keep that contained to marginalized groups, these people know damn well many have bigoted beliefs whether because of cultural reasons or lack of education (and let's not pretend that trans acceptance isn't a VERY recent thing and only in a select few locations).  But if you point that out, you better be in those groups, or you'll be labeled a "white savior".

I've said it before, but being Jewish gives you a unique perspective on stuff like this because you realize it's all hierarchal bullshit, as a large portion of the planet think they're "punching up" when they hate us. 

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #32077 on: October 18, 2022, 05:26:28 PM »
Quote from: Drek
Whether she lied or not, Platinum offered over scale or not, she's a terf or not, etc. the core issue here is that creatives within the video game industry deserve better compensation, specifically residuals/profit sharing on the back end.

This isn't just a VG issue but it is one the VG industry is especially egregious about. If a person is putting meaningful creative effort into a product they deserve to reap commensurate rewards when and if that product is a success.

When the VA union went on strike a few years ago I didn't think this way and fell into the trap of "well, if them then what about the artists, coders, etc.?" I was missing the point. The artists, coders, etc. ABSOLUTELY deserve residuals, generally a larger share than VA who have a far smaller time commitment than the core creatives on these games.

The exploitation of this industry isn't limited to using slave labor in China to build consoles.

Capitalist enterprise steals labors of love to not just commercialize but to commercialize with no meaningful compensation requirements to the artists who made them whenever possible. This parasitic dynamic and the fact that consumers only access the content through the gateways constructed by the exploiters is, in my opinion, at the root of the toxic culture present and clearly growing within mainstream media fandoms.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/bloomberg-a-tense-pay-dispute-overshadows-nintendo’s-upcoming-bayonetta-3.644811/page-11

We are talking about a game where a titty witch strips herself to kill angels and demons.
She's more of an ass witch really

Tasty

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #32078 on: October 18, 2022, 05:41:29 PM »
As usual, instead of having a moment of introspection, ree mods took literally the worst possible action by siding with the crazies screeching about the genocide Hellena was committing by her *checks notes* Twitter follows… :wut  :snoop



:maf

Boredfrom

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #32079 on: October 18, 2022, 06:07:09 PM »
Quote from: Drek
Whether she lied or not, Platinum offered over scale or not, she's a terf or not, etc. the core issue here is that creatives within the video game industry deserve better compensation, specifically residuals/profit sharing on the back end.

This isn't just a VG issue but it is one the VG industry is especially egregious about. If a person is putting meaningful creative effort into a product they deserve to reap commensurate rewards when and if that product is a success.

When the VA union went on strike a few years ago I didn't think this way and fell into the trap of "well, if them then what about the artists, coders, etc.?" I was missing the point. The artists, coders, etc. ABSOLUTELY deserve residuals, generally a larger share than VA who have a far smaller time commitment than the core creatives on these games.

The exploitation of this industry isn't limited to using slave labor in China to build consoles.

Capitalist enterprise steals labors of love to not just commercialize but to commercialize with no meaningful compensation requirements to the artists who made them whenever possible. This parasitic dynamic and the fact that consumers only access the content through the gateways constructed by the exploiters is, in my opinion, at the root of the toxic culture present and clearly growing within mainstream media fandoms.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/bloomberg-a-tense-pay-dispute-overshadows-nintendo’s-upcoming-bayonetta-3.644811/page-11

We are talking about a game where a titty witch strips herself to kill angels and demons.
She's more of an ass witch really

You are right… don’t forget the legs.

Boredfrom

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #32080 on: October 18, 2022, 06:14:03 PM »
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It was better than what he did, I am not even saying that to hate. Watchman was so surface level edge. Like Dark Knight returns

Holy shit, Slayven…

 :era

At least say it was pretentious or bloated, that is the first time I read someone saying that Watchmen is surface level in… anything.

BIONIC

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #32081 on: October 18, 2022, 06:23:35 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/bloomberg-a-tense-pay-dispute-overshadows-nintendo’s-upcoming-bayonetta-3.644811/page-25#post-95094615

Quote from: astro, post: 95094156, member: 3591
I don't thnk it's about being dumb, personally. There must be ways those things could be forged.

Not saying they are, I just don't see why she would break NDA and blow this up like she did if it could be so easily disproved.

Maybe the simpliest awnser is the one, though.

Quote from: B-Dubs, post: 95094471, member: 143
No, your entire idea is bullshit. Seriously, it's total bullshit.

Quote from: astro, post: 95094492, member: 3591
God, you have such a horrible way of speaking to people sometimes. No need for it.

Quote from: B-Dubs, post: 95094549, member: 143
You're literally pushing conspiracy theory tier stuff with the "is there a chance it's forged?" stuff. I'm literally exhausted with taking stuff like that seriously and giving it the time of day.

Seriously, you're literally accusing a guy with a long history of covering labor news in the gaming sphere of some nonsense.

Quote from: astro, post: 95094615, member: 3591
I'm just confused, as my other posts mentioned. No need for the tone.

:popcorn
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BIONIC

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #32082 on: October 18, 2022, 06:29:01 PM »
Quote from: astro, post: 95094834, member: 3591
God this place is fucking horrible with the pile ons and shitty tone sometimes. No need for it at all.

:spiders :gaas :spiders
Margs

Boredfrom

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #32083 on: October 18, 2022, 06:31:47 PM »
Jason is an asshole and I will not say he is as Pro Workers right as RE thinks he is (“How awesome are you EviLore” “Anthem live service shenanigans were BioWare fault, no EA you guys”), but I dunno why he would lie about this of all things.

BIONIC

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #32084 on: October 18, 2022, 06:32:18 PM »
From the constructive thread:

Quote from: excelsiorlef, post: 95049078, member: 330
I wonder if a feature could be added for OPs to be able to lock their own threads with the option for Mods/Admin to override if they feel necessary

I'm saying it but it's probably a bad idea isn't it

Dunno just tossing it out there

:dead
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #32085 on: October 18, 2022, 06:50:43 PM »
So Incelsheets is self-aware enough to know she makes bad, baity threads and wants the chance to lock them herself before B-Dumbs has to. Maybe to avoid the revoking of thread making privileges/perma-ban she's been slowly egging B-Dumbs on to finally slapping on her.

Boredfrom

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #32086 on: October 18, 2022, 06:55:53 PM »
She is probably just mad that they are, hopefully, egging on her in private and discords, be cause I doubt she will ever get her thread making privileges revoked. They can barely ban her.


Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #32087 on: October 18, 2022, 07:01:18 PM »
From the constructive thread:

Quote from: excelsiorlef, post: 95049078, member: 330
I wonder if a feature could be added for OPs to be able to lock their own threads with the option for Mods/Admin to override if they feel necessary

I'm saying it but it's probably a bad idea isn't it

Dunno just tossing it out there

:dead

The "take your ball and go home" button.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #32088 on: October 18, 2022, 07:07:24 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/bloomberg-a-tense-pay-dispute-overshadows-nintendo%E2%80%99s-upcoming-bayonetta-3.644811/page-7#post-95083263
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:cop User Banned (2 Weeks): Misgendering, prior severe ban for dismissing concerns of sexual objectification
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That Sterling video aged like milk lmao
lol, she made a video? Doesn't surprise me, she seems 100% ideologically driven.


https://www.resetera.com/threads/bloomberg-a-tense-pay-dispute-overshadows-nintendo%E2%80%99s-upcoming-bayonetta-3.644811/page-11#post-95085102
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:cop User Banned (Permanent): Downplaying transphobia, trans rights aren't a political issue. Prior severe bans for bigotry.
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$15k for 20 hrs of work doesn't sound like poor payment. Even if she did a lot of out of studio work that's still a good rate
I don't disagree, I just think we shouldn't dilute the discussion with her political leanings.

Admittedly, I am not familiar with the rates paid to most voice actors, I am ignorant in that regard but from the accounts we saw from other voice actors when she spoke out, a lot of them are very underpaid. I'd rather that the focus of the discussion was around that than it being diluted by they-said-she-said drama.
OBE

Boredfrom

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #32089 on: October 18, 2022, 07:15:34 PM »
Quote from: Tophat_Jones
What do you know about her? I had never heard her name before last week. Isn't this the forum where we get a break from 'fake news' conspiracy that is happening everywhere in the world? There should probably at least be some evidence before we just start blindly speculating that suddenly Schrier is compromised, and we can't take a well sourced story from him at face value.

Since when? RE also tends to regurgitate misinformation and half truths at daily basis. RE is just another community bubble.

Uncle

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #32090 on: October 18, 2022, 07:16:36 PM »
So Incelsheets is self-aware enough to know she makes bad, baity threads and wants the chance to lock them herself before B-Dumbs has to. Maybe to avoid the revoking of thread making privileges/perma-ban she's been slowly egging B-Dumbs on to finally slapping on her.

the plan:

  • create thread based on random tweet
  • "look at how this company/streamer/utterly random individual is transphobic, thread is to spread awareness only"
  • lock thread before any posts can be made
  • when it falls to the second page, unlock thread
  • "bump for awareness"
  • lock it again, repeat

 :wow
Uncle

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #32091 on: October 18, 2022, 07:51:43 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/variety-watchmen-creator-alan-moore-disowned-hbos-watchmen-told-showrunner-never-to-contact-him-this-is-embarrassing-to-me.644826/page-5#post-95099712

Quote from: Slayven
Watchman changed it's medium, but Watchman tv series reignited talk for the Tulsa massacre and educated alot of people. Now that is shit taht means something

That has nothing to do with your criticism of Watchmen as surface level edge, you idiot.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #32092 on: October 18, 2022, 08:21:59 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/npr-these-are-the-faces-of-the-rising-number-of-black-gun-owners-in-the-u-s.644424/#post-95027193

Quote from: krazen
One of my daydreams is if I ever became billionaire wealthy literally set up black gun stores and make a big fucking deal about the openings in places with a long history of systemic oppression…like go to Jackson Mississippi and have like Malcolm X posters all on the wall and talk with reverse dogwhistles “Sometimes the law isn’t around, and sometimes the law the problem” and effectively help save America from itself once it goes viral and helps push reform.

Not mad at it, its unfortunate all things considered but can’t fault any racial minority, in particular Black ones, in gun ownership despite the huge downsides. In many areas in the US its effectively a fucked up apartheid state.
OBE

Rahxephon91

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #32093 on: October 18, 2022, 08:23:43 PM »
If I was a billionaire I just want to fund my cool giant robot jrpg, but Jesus ok. Nothing unhinged about that idea.

Snoopycat_

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #32094 on: October 18, 2022, 08:25:04 PM »
I still can't believe that illiterate distinguished mentally-challenged fellow is an actual mod. B Dubs has a wonderful sense of humor

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #32095 on: October 18, 2022, 08:30:15 PM »
https://twitter.com/jeremysmiles/status/1582114061612785666

I don't have that much of an opinion on this specific case since I haven't fully looked into it.  Maybe Taylor is lying, I don't know.  Just funny how people are selective in their morals for stuff like this while getting mad at others being selective.  If bad people have the right to not be misgendered, it stands to reason they also have the right to be paid a living wage.

Just compare their reaction to Erza Miller's. It took months of Erza Miller committing weird, creepy acts with under-aged girls before ERA finally stopped giving him well wishes about his mental health. And even to this day they still ban you if you dare misgender him accidentally.
But this VA was labeled a TERF bitch, so anything and everything bad that happens to her is fair game in their eyes.

There is no such thing as accidental misgendering :ufup

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #32096 on: October 18, 2022, 08:39:26 PM »
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https://twitter.com/jasonschreier/status/1582443333007290368?s=20&t=c0CeGnGqJfXofKRYbXFuvg

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It's unlikely that the full story will get as much traction or as many eyeballs as the original Twitter videos, which (imo) raises some interesting questions about pleas to emotion and how information is disseminated in the social media age

Oh! In Your Opinion, there's now interesting questions about social media and pleas to emotion you duplicitous piece of shit?

EDIT: Be Kind, don't know how to embed a tweet

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #32097 on: October 18, 2022, 08:40:36 PM »
Don't know about fair wages, but if I was ole slap head there I'd be campaigning for a free wig

joeboy101

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #32098 on: October 18, 2022, 08:44:37 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/bloomberg-a-tense-pay-dispute-overshadows-nintendo%E2%80%99s-upcoming-bayonetta-3.644811/post-95082045

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Anyway fuck Hellena's transphobia and Blue live matter support
Woah what, Taylor is a transphobe? I ducked out of the other thead early so I missed this. Fuck her then if true.

So in a thread specifically about not going with your gut and getting the whole picture...

Random poster says she's a transphobe? I don't need evidence, fuck her! Only if its true of course.

 :snoop

I mean you have to work hard to have this absence of self awareness.

Quote from: Vex
wait.... are they saying we should hear both sides first before making judgements????


no way.

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are they saying we should hear both sides
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both sides

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Boredfrom

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #32099 on: October 18, 2022, 08:56:31 PM »
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One of my daydreams is if I ever became billionaire wealthy literally set up black gun stores and make a big fucking deal about the openings in places with a long history of systemic oppression…like go to Jackson Mississippi and have like Malcolm X posters all on the wall and talk with reverse dogwhistles “Sometimes the law isn’t around, and sometimes the law the problem” and effectively help save America from itself once it goes viral and helps push reform.

¨Im going to pick a losing fight against hillbilies and going bankrupt just to get viral at twitter... lobbying the goverment? donating to campaigns of like minded candidates? making charities and think tanks? that is white men republicunt republicant thinking?¨