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[Propagandhim]

Where did they get the idea that losing the case would have them forced to put on special disclaimers for their content?  They just made that up and started talking about it?   

[benjipwns]

"Sure, the internal messages by our producers might look damning, but they were just looking to do a little random chaos. That's all, boys will be boys."

[Taco Bell Tower]

That RustyNails quote

Unlike Alex Jones, FNC actually has money to throw around and they can withstand any settlement. Their net income is more than a billion per year.

Highly doubtful. They will still tune in to tucker. The disclaimer will not mean anything to them. Average chudder hates reading anyway

That's pretty much Ree

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/j-k-rowling-and-her-legacy-of-hate-the-uk-gender-critical-movement.643740/page-57#post-102224275

If things do improve in the UK, I wonder if the UK media and the BBC specifically will ever face repercussions for their involvement in JK and TERF friends campaign. At this point I want places like the Daily Mail to die, Newspaper media has no reason to exist now other than just spread hate (and I would really be curious in the age demographics of its readership.

I'm glad US media seems to be more willing to call her. Hope that continues.

[D3RANG3D]

[team filler]

"no reason to exist except to just spread hate"

reeee is often the 2 minutes hate scene from 1984



 

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/deadline-arrowverse-co-creator-marc-guggenheim-on-not-getting-call-from-dc-studio-bosses-james-gunn-peter-safran-%E2%80%9Ci-really-wasted-my-time%E2%80%9D.693379/page-3#post-102202579

Yeah this just further cements my complete hatred and abstinence of Gunn's efforts. He just keep making the worst decisions and fucking it all into the ground.


I genuinely hope it all crashes around him with all of my heart and soul because at this point he completely deserves it.

 

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/my-roommate-may-have-caused-a-cockroach-infestation.693586/#post-102233647

I would have gone ballistic on my roommate by this point, ESPECIALLY if he had the gall to gaslight you in front of his other friend. I dunno man, some of you really need to stand up for yourselves at some point.

No, ya wouldn't.

[benjipwns]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/deadline-arrowverse-co-creator-marc-guggenheim-on-not-getting-call-from-dc-studio-bosses-james-gunn-peter-safran-%E2%80%9Ci-really-wasted-my-time%E2%80%9D.693379/page-3#post-102202579

They cant be expected to hit up everyone tangentially related to DC

"Tangentially related."

Ezra's Miller's Barry Allen canonically got the name 'The Flash' from Grant Gustin's Barry Allen.

I mean...that's kinda the definition of being tangentially related, lol.

[benjipwns]

And considering there has been a grand total of exactly one successful cinematic universe in the history of film, and it wasn't DC's, maybe they should be talking to one of the people in charge of one of the only successful cinematic universes in the history of television to share insight.

Emphasis his.

[Potato]

Where did they get the idea that losing the case would have them forced to put on special disclaimers for their content?  They just made that up and started talking about it?   

I'm almost certain that all of their legal and political knowledge is gleaned from episodes of The Good Wife and The Good Fight.

[benjipwns]

Hogwarts Legacy has already sold over 12 million copies. Good job, everyone - we worked together to show that pesky woke boycott who’s boss and stuck up for the little billionaire and the multinational corporation. The continued acceptance of JK Rowling’s universe and its transphobic baggage is a clear sign that gamers are willing to throw aside societal progress and the support of minority groups if it means playing the next big video game.

February was an avalanche of moral compromises from fellow critics, friends, and family. I watched as they bargained with their personal worth as a trans ally if they decided to buy this game, their excitement outweighing the pleads of us fighting for human rights on the sidelines. Here at TheGamer, we decided against reviewing or guiding Hogwarts Legacy. Our coverage instead serves to inform the greater conversation and shine a light on how its potential success and the ongoing boycott speaks to a far larger societal issue.

But with how rampant transphobia is becoming in today’s world and the tangible connection it has with the Wizarding World, you have to ask gamers whether they purposefully cast aside the red button issue in favour of their own enjoyment. If the buck doesn’t stop with the public treatment of an entire minority group, where exactly does it?

The success of Hogwarts Legacy was never really down to how many copies it sold or the overall Metacritic score. Its real victory is that it was received with open arms despite the creator of its universe demonising trans people and widening a divide that is now worming its way through everyday bias and the minds of politicians and the public. Trans people like me have become a sick and twisted bargaining chip for upcoming elections and a topic for right-wing rags to pull out for a quick and easy hit piece to stoke up outrage built on a sensationalist chorus of lies.

The real world is changing, yet we refuse to accept that games are too. Transphobia will never exist in a vacuum, and factors everything we say, do, and consume. Hogwarts Legacy is a part of that reality, and one we can’t afford to treat as an exception. Yet this is exactly what’s happened. We bring similar media to task for homophobia or racism, but suddenly this kind of discrimination is excusable? Minority groups don't exist on a tier of indifference dependent on whether actually showing your support gets in the way of a cool video game.

We asked you to cast aside a product to tell corporations that transphobia was a dealbreaker for you, and it turns out it wasn’t. I think Rowling’s views are mainstream enough in the modern era that ignoring them was a complicit acknowledgment on the part of most. To say, “I just love Harry Potter” as you buy the game and donate a few pounds to charity in a spur of the moment admission of guilt isn’t good enough, and it definitely won’t be the last time gamers cast aside their beliefs in favour of short, unfulfilling bursts of fun. Trying to feebly justify to my face how it doesn’t make you a bad person, and you just want to hang out with the homies in charms class should really highlight that perhaps you’re trying to bargain for the wrong side.

Hogwarts Legacy feels like a defining point in the evolution of video games. An adaptation of a property millions grew up on that flirts with the bloated magic of triple-A open world design to conjure up an adventure that to many felt unmissable. It also surfaced an ideological tug of war that so few were ready to reconcile. You don’t have a transphobic bone in your body, there’s no way you’d support Rowling, but she didn’t touch this game, and you simply need to support the developers, and it isn’t fair that the loony leftists are screaming at you. You just wanted to be able to ignore all the consequences of your actions in peace.

On one side sat hollow excuses and transparently performative support, while the other only served to throw trans people under the bus like they always do. What many fail to realise is that refusing to take a stand on transphobia with Hogwarts Legacy makes all forms of activism past, present, and future you cling onto utterly meaningless. It speaks to a spineless rhetoric, an admittance that the agency of minorities can change on a whim to fit your own flippant attitude. I fear this will be the start of more exceptions, showing companies that transphobia is no deterrent to millions excited to indulge in the next big thing.

There was no winning here. After you discount all the awkward noise it becomes a damning indictment of how cowardly gamers can be when faced with doing the right thing. We are all obedient little consumers, desperate for another dose of serotonin that can drown out the fact that LGBTQ+ people are being marginalised, and the world continues to burn. We shouldn’t have to consider human rights, politics, or our own moral worth as an individual when it comes to having fun.

Those who dare to question that or critique you aren’t considerate or constructive, only liberal harassers who want to turn games into a battlefield of ideological progress where everyone loses. That’s never been the case, but with the success of Hogwarts Legacy it feels like we’ve crossed a tangible point of no return where daring to speak up about injustice or do the right thing means you only want to ruin someone’s fun or turn things into a shouting match.

The sales figures and reviews of Hogwarts Legacy don’t mean anything to me, nor can they act as a metric of success that predicts the influence it will have on video games in the years to come. But if we can dismiss one of the most vocal voices of transphobia on the planet if it means having fun, what other lines won’t we be willing to cross? Ignoring a single game in a sea of excellent options as a fairly pedestrian means of supporting trans people is not asking a lot, yet even that proved too much for millions who would rather label us as an annoyance than actually consider where we might be coming from. I dread to think exactly what this excuse of bigotry will enable in the future, and I know that we’ll look back on this mistake with shame.

[Potato]

Hogwarts Legacy has already sold over 12 million copies. Good job, everyone - we worked together to show that pesky woke boycott who’s boss and stuck up for the little billionaire and the multinational corporation. The continued acceptance of JK Rowling’s universe and its transphobic baggage is a clear sign that gamers are willing to throw aside societal progress and the support of minority groups if it means playing the next big video game.

February was an avalanche of moral compromises from fellow critics, friends, and family. I watched as they bargained with their personal worth as a trans ally if they decided to buy this game, their excitement outweighing the pleads of us fighting for human rights on the sidelines. Here at TheGamer, we decided against reviewing or guiding Hogwarts Legacy. Our coverage instead serves to inform the greater conversation and shine a light on how its potential success and the ongoing boycott speaks to a far larger societal issue.

But with how rampant transphobia is becoming in today’s world and the tangible connection it has with the Wizarding World, you have to ask gamers whether they purposefully cast aside the red button issue in favour of their own enjoyment. If the buck doesn’t stop with the public treatment of an entire minority group, where exactly does it?

The success of Hogwarts Legacy was never really down to how many copies it sold or the overall Metacritic score. Its real victory is that it was received with open arms despite the creator of its universe demonising trans people and widening a divide that is now worming its way through everyday bias and the minds of politicians and the public. Trans people like me have become a sick and twisted bargaining chip for upcoming elections and a topic for right-wing rags to pull out for a quick and easy hit piece to stoke up outrage built on a sensationalist chorus of lies.

The real world is changing, yet we refuse to accept that games are too. Transphobia will never exist in a vacuum, and factors everything we say, do, and consume. Hogwarts Legacy is a part of that reality, and one we can’t afford to treat as an exception. Yet this is exactly what’s happened. We bring similar media to task for homophobia or racism, but suddenly this kind of discrimination is excusable? Minority groups don't exist on a tier of indifference dependent on whether actually showing your support gets in the way of a cool video game.

We asked you to cast aside a product to tell corporations that transphobia was a dealbreaker for you, and it turns out it wasn’t. I think Rowling’s views are mainstream enough in the modern era that ignoring them was a complicit acknowledgment on the part of most. To say, “I just love Harry Potter” as you buy the game and donate a few pounds to charity in a spur of the moment admission of guilt isn’t good enough, and it definitely won’t be the last time gamers cast aside their beliefs in favour of short, unfulfilling bursts of fun. Trying to feebly justify to my face how it doesn’t make you a bad person, and you just want to hang out with the homies in charms class should really highlight that perhaps you’re trying to bargain for the wrong side.

Hogwarts Legacy feels like a defining point in the evolution of video games. An adaptation of a property millions grew up on that flirts with the bloated magic of triple-A open world design to conjure up an adventure that to many felt unmissable. It also surfaced an ideological tug of war that so few were ready to reconcile. You don’t have a transphobic bone in your body, there’s no way you’d support Rowling, but she didn’t touch this game, and you simply need to support the developers, and it isn’t fair that the loony leftists are screaming at you. You just wanted to be able to ignore all the consequences of your actions in peace.

On one side sat hollow excuses and transparently performative support, while the other only served to throw trans people under the bus like they always do. What many fail to realise is that refusing to take a stand on transphobia with Hogwarts Legacy makes all forms of activism past, present, and future you cling onto utterly meaningless. It speaks to a spineless rhetoric, an admittance that the agency of minorities can change on a whim to fit your own flippant attitude. I fear this will be the start of more exceptions, showing companies that transphobia is no deterrent to millions excited to indulge in the next big thing.

There was no winning here. After you discount all the awkward noise it becomes a damning indictment of how cowardly gamers can be when faced with doing the right thing. We are all obedient little consumers, desperate for another dose of serotonin that can drown out the fact that LGBTQ+ people are being marginalised, and the world continues to burn. We shouldn’t have to consider human rights, politics, or our own moral worth as an individual when it comes to having fun.

Those who dare to question that or critique you aren’t considerate or constructive, only liberal harassers who want to turn games into a battlefield of ideological progress where everyone loses. That’s never been the case, but with the success of Hogwarts Legacy it feels like we’ve crossed a tangible point of no return where daring to speak up about injustice or do the right thing means you only want to ruin someone’s fun or turn things into a shouting match.

The sales figures and reviews of Hogwarts Legacy don’t mean anything to me, nor can they act as a metric of success that predicts the influence it will have on video games in the years to come. But if we can dismiss one of the most vocal voices of transphobia on the planet if it means having fun, what other lines won’t we be willing to cross? Ignoring a single game in a sea of excellent options as a fairly pedestrian means of supporting trans people is not asking a lot, yet even that proved too much for millions who would rather label us as an annoyance than actually consider where we might be coming from. I dread to think exactly what this excuse of bigotry will enable in the future, and I know that we’ll look back on this mistake with shame.

Not bitter. Not at all.
 

[Taco Bell Tower]

Has ColdSun been called out on Ree?

[Colonel Mustard]

After watching it, I can see why Resetera wouldn’t care for the Chris Rock special. He basically describes a composite of your average Era Poster and then spends the duration dragging it.

[team filler]

Hogwarts Legacy has already sold over 12 million copies. Good job, everyone - we worked together to show that pesky woke boycott who’s boss and stuck up for the little billionaire and the multinational corporation. The continued acceptance of JK Rowling’s universe and its transphobic baggage is a clear sign that gamers are willing to throw aside societal progress and the support of minority groups if it means playing the next big video game.

February was an avalanche of moral compromises from fellow critics, friends, and family. I watched as they bargained with their personal worth as a trans ally if they decided to buy this game, their excitement outweighing the pleads of us fighting for human rights on the sidelines. Here at TheGamer, we decided against reviewing or guiding Hogwarts Legacy. Our coverage instead serves to inform the greater conversation and shine a light on how its potential success and the ongoing boycott speaks to a far larger societal issue.

But with how rampant transphobia is becoming in today’s world and the tangible connection it has with the Wizarding World, you have to ask gamers whether they purposefully cast aside the red button issue in favour of their own enjoyment. If the buck doesn’t stop with the public treatment of an entire minority group, where exactly does it?

The success of Hogwarts Legacy was never really down to how many copies it sold or the overall Metacritic score. Its real victory is that it was received with open arms despite the creator of its universe demonising trans people and widening a divide that is now worming its way through everyday bias and the minds of politicians and the public. Trans people like me have become a sick and twisted bargaining chip for upcoming elections and a topic for right-wing rags to pull out for a quick and easy hit piece to stoke up outrage built on a sensationalist chorus of lies.

The real world is changing, yet we refuse to accept that games are too. Transphobia will never exist in a vacuum, and factors everything we say, do, and consume. Hogwarts Legacy is a part of that reality, and one we can’t afford to treat as an exception. Yet this is exactly what’s happened. We bring similar media to task for homophobia or racism, but suddenly this kind of discrimination is excusable? Minority groups don't exist on a tier of indifference dependent on whether actually showing your support gets in the way of a cool video game.

We asked you to cast aside a product to tell corporations that transphobia was a dealbreaker for you, and it turns out it wasn’t. I think Rowling’s views are mainstream enough in the modern era that ignoring them was a complicit acknowledgment on the part of most. To say, “I just love Harry Potter” as you buy the game and donate a few pounds to charity in a spur of the moment admission of guilt isn’t good enough, and it definitely won’t be the last time gamers cast aside their beliefs in favour of short, unfulfilling bursts of fun. Trying to feebly justify to my face how it doesn’t make you a bad person, and you just want to hang out with the homies in charms class should really highlight that perhaps you’re trying to bargain for the wrong side.

Hogwarts Legacy feels like a defining point in the evolution of video games. An adaptation of a property millions grew up on that flirts with the bloated magic of triple-A open world design to conjure up an adventure that to many felt unmissable. It also surfaced an ideological tug of war that so few were ready to reconcile. You don’t have a transphobic bone in your body, there’s no way you’d support Rowling, but she didn’t touch this game, and you simply need to support the developers, and it isn’t fair that the loony leftists are screaming at you. You just wanted to be able to ignore all the consequences of your actions in peace.

On one side sat hollow excuses and transparently performative support, while the other only served to throw trans people under the bus like they always do. What many fail to realise is that refusing to take a stand on transphobia with Hogwarts Legacy makes all forms of activism past, present, and future you cling onto utterly meaningless. It speaks to a spineless rhetoric, an admittance that the agency of minorities can change on a whim to fit your own flippant attitude. I fear this will be the start of more exceptions, showing companies that transphobia is no deterrent to millions excited to indulge in the next big thing.

There was no winning here. After you discount all the awkward noise it becomes a damning indictment of how cowardly gamers can be when faced with doing the right thing. We are all obedient little consumers, desperate for another dose of serotonin that can drown out the fact that LGBTQ+ people are being marginalised, and the world continues to burn. We shouldn’t have to consider human rights, politics, or our own moral worth as an individual when it comes to having fun.

Those who dare to question that or critique you aren’t considerate or constructive, only liberal harassers who want to turn games into a battlefield of ideological progress where everyone loses. That’s never been the case, but with the success of Hogwarts Legacy it feels like we’ve crossed a tangible point of no return where daring to speak up about injustice or do the right thing means you only want to ruin someone’s fun or turn things into a shouting match.

The sales figures and reviews of Hogwarts Legacy don’t mean anything to me, nor can they act as a metric of success that predicts the influence it will have on video games in the years to come. But if we can dismiss one of the most vocal voices of transphobia on the planet if it means having fun, what other lines won’t we be willing to cross? Ignoring a single game in a sea of excellent options as a fairly pedestrian means of supporting trans people is not asking a lot, yet even that proved too much for millions who would rather label us as an annoyance than actually consider where we might be coming from. I dread to think exactly what this excuse of bigotry will enable in the future, and I know that we’ll look back on this mistake with shame.

Everything you've ever done to support us is now completely meaningless to us and we hate you forever because you didn't bow down and follow orders. why is no one listening to us anymore and willing to follow along with our horseshit? 

 

[Polident Hive]

A lot going on there but they accidentally get at the heart of it. Most people did consider where they were coming from. They merely determined it was hyperbolic nonsense. Writer seems to only see empathy as a tool to exploit in others for compliance. See it in how they speak about hypothetical buyers. How they’re determined to define a right and wrong side.

That aside, it’s over… it’s past sour grapes at this point. Brush yourselves off. Take your monthly shower. Prepare for the next thing.

[Averon]

It was the dumbest fucking move to use Hogwarts Legacy as the hill to die on for trans rights. All the hysteria did was expose a lot of potentially sympathetic people not terminally online, but who would be fine supporting trans rights, to how crazy and hyperbolic trans people and their supporters act and sound like.

And from that article, it sounds like they learned nothing and will double down and make the same mistake next time.

[PogiJones]

And from that article, it sounds like they learned nothing and will double down and make the same mistake next time.

 

[Boredfrom]

What many fail to realise is that refusing to take a stand on transphobia with Hogwarts Legacy makes all forms of activism past, present, and future you cling onto utterly meaningless.

[Boredfrom]

That reporter is nuts:

https://www.thegamer.com/pedro-pascal-daddy-persona-tiktok-fan-consent/

[Potato]

Has ColdSun been called out on Ree?

Doubt it. They're very much into ignoring offsite transgressions if you're one of the prominent members. Just don't go calling out neopetenthe's moderation.

[Greatness Gone]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/resident-evil-5-was-released-14-years-ago.693502/page-2#post-102221782

Played this game an absurd amount; over 300 hours on Xbox 360 alone, another 100 on PC, about 30-ish hours on PS4, and got all of the achievements/trophies on 360 and PS4 too. Did a bunch of co-op self-imposed challenge runs: starting M9s only, VZ61 only for me and Ithaca only for my friend, bolt-action rifles only (this one was actually really hard), Professional mode with no buying/upgrading/using the item box/replaying levels. Definitely one of the best co-op action games ever, and also horribly racist as fuck.

"I had so much fun playing nearly 500 hours of a horribly fucking racist game!"

They are also still calling RE4 racist because the Spaniards in that game are more like early 1900s villagers than 2004 civilians.

I still don’t like the coop aspect. It was a huge disappointment after RE4.

I can sort of appreciate it nowadays as more of an arcade experience but it’s just not what I want out of a mainline resident evil game.

Capcom deserves way more shit for their racism and ignorance in RE5 and RE4.

[D3RANG3D]

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

A lot going on there but they accidentally get at the heart of it. Most people did consider where they were coming from. They merely determined it was hyperbolic nonsense. Writer seems to only see empathy as a tool to exploit in others for compliance. See it in how they speak about hypothetical buyers. How they’re determined to define a right and wrong side.

That aside, it’s over… it’s past sour grapes at this point. Brush yourselves off. Take your monthly shower. Prepare for the next thing.

I mean... when you can't use facts or logic to persuade people, and the only emotional nuclear option you have is "IF YOU DON'T DO WHAT I SAY PEOPLE WILL FUCKING KILL THEMSELVES" there's only so many times you can play that card before people see you as the emotionally manipulative histrionic piece of shit you really are.

Its Them/They Who Cried Wolf and eventually peoples sympathies run dry.

So good job you blew that over a fucking videogame then wonder why things that actually matter people have prematurely mentally tuned you out.

[cosmicblizzard]

That Gamer article unironically reads like a false flag in some places to make trans people even more hated, which actually has happened during all this nonsense.

People have planted their flags, and they did it in the most annoying and inefficient way possible that I'm actually kind of amazed.  Modern activists in general are pretty awful at getting people on their side, but this is another level. A combination of slacktivism, poorly-chosen targets, and just pure malice of consumers rather than any kind of viable end goal that would help trans people has made this probably the biggest boycott backfire in gaming (even more than the MW2 one). When you go after consumers of an entry in a globally beloved franchise that the original hateful creator had nothing to do with, does not change her plans regardless of the product's success, and has no hateful content without a reach that requires knowledge of historical tropes barely anyone in the modern era cares about, people aren't going to be happy.  The entire basis of the boycott isn't even a call to action on policy change or anything, it's purely a judgement call on consumers.  It's the terminally online version of someone protesting the auto industry by keying some random person's used car they could barely afford.  People aren't going to think about the "cause" you're fighting for when they see your behavior, they're going to think you're an asshole.

That said, the idea that any more than 500k of that 12 million are even AWARE of the controversy with JKR is similarly absurd.  I'd almost say that article author WANTS the entire userbase to be a group of apathetic centrists who were told the plight of their poor trans friends and then threw them aside because "silly wizard game more important!".  Anything to make yourself out to be a victim.  And even if you are one, it's certainly not because of this game.  There is not a single other marginalized group in history that has wasted this much energy on a piece of media tangentially related to their marginalization.  Hell, not even minstrel shows got this level of pushback since there was more productive shit for black people in the jim crow era to do, and those shows were far more worthy of being attacked than anything Rowling could come up with.

[Potato]

When you go after consumers of an entry in a globally beloved franchise that the original hateful creator had nothing to do with,

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

That's a bizarre title from the BBC when child sexual exploitation and state disinformation are a lot more concerning than trolling but this IS BBC News who are going all in on hatred and platforming the tories so to them those are more features than bugs

[Snoopycat_]

Mr.Beast thread heating up

As someone who moderated NeoGAF for years I will tell you that the two are not as different at all as you might think. You might not have personally experienced it, so it might seem like two distinct things from the outside, but it is not.

Not members leveraging what staff do for this community in a fucking MrBeast argument. Y'all think that lowly of us?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/in-a-sad-exploitation-of-his-famdoms-intense-parasocial-relationship-mr-beast-asks-fans-to-tidy-up-his-wal-mart-chocolate-bar-displays-and-they-do.693430/page-8

[NekoFever]

That's a bizarre title from the BBC when child sexual exploitation and state disinformation are a lot more concerning than trolling but this IS BBC News who are going all in on hatred and platforming the tories so to them those are more features than bugs

Yes, the state-funded, legally politically neutral BBC should start no-platforming the government. I’m sure that will go well for them

[Yulwei]

Funniest thing about Hogwarts Legacy is that this game has now cemented itself as a new franchise in the gaming pantheon. 12 million copies in 2 weeks? It wasn't just a success, it was a historic, record breaking success. So now they're gonna have to deal with the inevitable sequelS as well 

they're gonna have to keep that HL ban thread stickied for a very long time

[BIONIC]

Mr.Beast thread heating up

As someone who moderated NeoGAF for years I will tell you that the two are not as different at all as you might think. You might not have personally experienced it, so it might seem like two distinct things from the outside, but it is not.

Not members leveraging what staff do for this community in a fucking MrBeast argument. Y'all think that lowly of us?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/in-a-sad-exploitation-of-his-famdoms-intense-parasocial-relationship-mr-beast-asks-fans-to-tidy-up-his-wal-mart-chocolate-bar-displays-and-they-do.693430/page-8

I don’t think that lowly of you nepnep.

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I think even lower

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[Yulwei]

The simple fact is Will Smith attacking Chris Rock is something they all fantasize about doing to comedians they dislike. They put it on the same level as a Nazi getting punched. Just look how they reacted when a KNIFE WIELDING ATTACKER literally tried to murder Dave Chapelle several months ago. They downplayed it. Dismissed it. And just continued their hatred of Chapelle the next day like the attack never happened.

Not just on ree either. Lots of hurt feelings people on twitter have been fuming about the special and digging up all kinds of old comedy bits to prove once and for all that Chris Rock, is problematic. Many of them calling for Smith to slap him again 

[Snoopycat_]

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I think even lower

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For some reason I wasn't surprised Nep didn't appear until someone from THAT place spoke up

[Uncle]

That Gamer article unironically reads like a false flag in some places to make trans people even more hated, which actually has happened during all this nonsense.

at this point I can't be sure whether "supporting trans rights" in any form doesn't elevate and normalize the kind of rabid frothing insanity that seems to crop up surrounding the issue time and time again

like if there was a widespread movement ostensibly about helping support the homeless, but the movement determined that the best way to do this is to murder police officers in cold blood and no prominent voices were ever allowed to call this out, I might start to question whether I want to ever associate with supporting the homeless

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

Most of my life I was super angry, like a wellspring of it, mostly because I grew up a closeted trans kid who knew they were trans and only stayed in the closet due to fear and how the world is and this was in the eighties and nineties but it kept me in the closer until I got into my frostiest. And the anger that wasn't from the closet usually stemmed from things that happened to convince people I was cis

. And then I came out and started transitioning and all that anger just left. After coming out y mothers first words were " so that's why you have been angry all these years" ( maybe not exact first, I think that was "why didn't you tell me" but the anger observation was in the same discussion) and I don't even really get angry anymore. My natural state when being myself is actually well natured and happy which believe it or not even surprised me.

But this stuff and these people, make me angry, angry enough to want to go off, and it sucks because I hate being angry now, but I also feel justified because they are celebrating destroying lives and killing kids.

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

We already had a shooting in Colorado at a drag show.

...by a non-binary they/them member of that community

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Deep undercover mod narcs on self.

How so? Plenty of current and past mods have spoken about the toll moderating Era has taken on their mental health, so that free labour comes at a cost. Shuffling a bit of confectionary around seems pretty minor.

Yeah, It’s a weird thing for Mr Beast to ask fans to do and is a bit exploitative, but pretty minor really. The way Era and other forums are run are worse. This site isn’t a passion project for its owners, who bought it solely to make money.

The former is people caretaking a community for themselves and so that people like me can talk with like-minded people without being called transphobic slurs and misgendered and harassed

The latter is a rich influencer asking fans using fake friendship language to keep his Wal-Mart displays clean and hide the competition, and fans doing it hoping senpai will notice them

This site ain’t a charity. It’s a commercial venture. All that advertising money goes somewhere.

No shit

But mods aren’t doing it because they wanna to help big daddy owner make money and gain their friendship or approval

Excell is almost there.

[joeboy101]

Mr.Beast thread heating up

Not members leveraging what staff do for this community in a fucking MrBeast argument. Y'all think that lowly of us?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/in-a-sad-exploitation-of-his-famdoms-intense-parasocial-relationship-mr-beast-asks-fans-to-tidy-up-his-wal-mart-chocolate-bar-displays-and-they-do.693430/page-8

I’d be surprised if you got a response from the people propping you up this way tbh.

Notice me, Senpai!

 

[Pissy F Benny]

why are people mad about something kinda lame, but ultimately harmless?

[Uncle]

why are people mad about something kinda lame, but ultimately harmless?

[joeboy101]

No shit

But mods aren’t doing it because they wanna to help big daddy owner make money and gain their friendship or approval

It’s not exploitation because of the intent, even if the end result is the same.

Got it.

What a fucking dumbass.

[Straight Edge]

inflammatory generalization of transfolx to skub.

[Uncle]

inflammatory generalization of transfolx to skub.

skub =

[joeboy101]

inflammatory generalization of transfolx to skub.

skub =

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How did 5G technology factor in with that product’s manufacture?

[Cauliflower Of Love]

 

How is that a bad thing and the owner of ResetEra walking away with $4.5million USD and leaving his staff to do unpaid labor not? I'm assuming that the latter is not because you participate in that system. Why do you participate in that system?

 

[marrec]

Oh god that TheGamer article deserves so much unpacking...

I'll just say, Hogwarts Legacy was always going to be a massive sales success. The reach of online trans activism is extremely limited, and the people who interacted with this game for political reasons, one way or the other. is extremely small.

The vast majority of people who bought Hogwarts Legacy did so not in spite of trans outrage, but in complete ignorance of it, going forward and acting as if the sales success is directly related to trans issues is the height of egotism and just setting yourself up for further psychological failures. Instead of doubling down on wrapping the entire scope of your activism into one woman and her series of books, maybe take a step back and find smaller, more winnable battles to focus the public facing activism on.

EDIT:

Actually, it doesn't deserve much unpacking at all, it was poorly written and had little substance lol

[Superstar]

He does bad things too. Like exploiting his fans rather than paying people to do a job.

Another mod weighs in kn Mr Beast. This has to be a bit by all of them right?

[Yulwei]

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Mental illness

[joeboy101]

Oh god that TheGamer article deserves so much unpacking...

I'll just say, Hogwarts Legacy was always going to be a massive sales success. The reach of online trans activism is extremely limited, and the people who interacted with this game for political reasons, one way or the other. is extremely small.

The vast majority of people who bought Hogwarts Legacy did so not in spite of trans outrage, but in complete ignorance of it, going forward and acting as if the sales success is directly related to trans issues is the height of egotism and just setting yourself up for further psychological failures. Instead of doubling down on wrapping the entire scope of your activism into one woman and her series of books, maybe take a step back and find smaller, more winnable battles to focus the public facing activism on.

EDIT:

Actually, it doesn't deserve much unpacking at all, it was poorly written and had little substance lol

That’s the thing. She’s probably happier she can rage and spew into the ether and feel like a brave fighter against Joanne. If the boycott miraculously worked, they would have quiet congratulatory pieces for a week and moved on to the next outrage. They don’t want victories, they want what every terminally online activist wants… fuel.

[joeboy101]

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So in order to be proper philanthropy, it has to impact you negatively to a certain degree?

 

I believe in the saying, ‘It’s not virtue without sacrifice’, but then I’m not putting this guy on a pedestal. At the same time, ignoring what he does and dragging the guy on silly shit, and even on that same philanthropy at times, is misanthropic. Ask the people his work is benefitting whether they give a shit on how much money he has leftover after giving them eyesight back?

[Uncle]

what era hears when people say mrbeast is a philanthropist

[Uncle]

That’s the thing. She’s probably happier she can rage and spew into the ether and feel like a brave fighter against Joanne. If the boycott miraculously worked, they would have quiet congratulatory pieces for a week and moved on to the next outrage. They don’t want victories, they want what every terminally online activist wants… fuel.

I could use a little fuel myself and we could all use a little change

[nobody of note]

Jesus, this exchange in the Mr. Beast thread managed to out-do Excel's "it's not exploitation because they're making something for memememememe" reasonsing:

I'm sure Mr Beast will notice you and give you lots of money *any minute now*.

That's not an answer to my question. On the one hand, you call it exploitation because people hope to get paid but don't get paid for their labor, knowing they might not get paid. On the other hand, you've actually had the case where someone didn't pay the people who made this site run as well at it does for free. Why does one constitute as exploitation and the other not, while in both cases the subjects of said exploitation consent to it?

Aaaaaaaany second now. He's just figuring out whether to send you cash, money order, or a check.

Ah oké, great discussing with you. Awesome exchange of thoughts there.

The mods really hate when people compare the strenuous free work they do (WHICH THEY DO NOT WANT TO BE PAID FOR BECAUSE BEING PAID WOULD MEAN THEY WERE HELD TO STANDARDS) to exploitation.

[marrec]

Oh god that TheGamer article deserves so much unpacking...

I'll just say, Hogwarts Legacy was always going to be a massive sales success. The reach of online trans activism is extremely limited, and the people who interacted with this game for political reasons, one way or the other. is extremely small.

The vast majority of people who bought Hogwarts Legacy did so not in spite of trans outrage, but in complete ignorance of it, going forward and acting as if the sales success is directly related to trans issues is the height of egotism and just setting yourself up for further psychological failures. Instead of doubling down on wrapping the entire scope of your activism into one woman and her series of books, maybe take a step back and find smaller, more winnable battles to focus the public facing activism on.

EDIT:

Actually, it doesn't deserve much unpacking at all, it was poorly written and had little substance lol

That’s the thing. She’s probably happier she can rage and spew into the ether and feel like a brave fighter against Joanne. If the boycott miraculously worked, they would have quiet congratulatory pieces for a week and moved on to the next outrage. They don’t want victories, they want what every terminally online activist wants… fuel.

I wonder if it's explicit in their minds or if their penchant for drama and lack of a coherent plan just naturally leads them into failure after failure; are they reinforcing their underlying need for victimization, the need that originally drove many of them into the arms of the trans community in the first place, through serendipity.

[HaughtyFrank]

Jesus, this exchange in the Mr. Beast thread managed to out-do Excel's "it's not exploitation because they're making something for memememememe" reasonsing:

I'm sure Mr Beast will notice you and give you lots of money *any minute now*.

That's not an answer to my question. On the one hand, you call it exploitation because people hope to get paid but don't get paid for their labor, knowing they might not get paid. On the other hand, you've actually had the case where someone didn't pay the people who made this site run as well at it does for free. Why does one constitute as exploitation and the other not, while in both cases the subjects of said exploitation consent to it?

Aaaaaaaany second now. He's just figuring out whether to send you cash, money order, or a check.

Ah oké, great discussing with you. Awesome exchange of thoughts there.

The mods really hate when people compare the strenuous free work they do (WHICH THEY DO NOT WANT TO BE PAID FOR BECAUSE BEING PAID WOULD MEAN THEY WERE HELD TO STANDARDS) to exploitation.

The one thing they don't want to say openly is that they actually enjoy having power on that forum and being able to treat every other member as second class citizens. I guess that's better than getting paid

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

I wonder if it's explicit in their minds or if their penchant for drama and lack of a coherent plan just naturally leads them into failure after failure; are they reinforcing their underlying need for victimization, the need that originally drove many of them into the arms of the trans community in the first place, through serendipity.

Man, I don't know, but when they're sharing stuff like this uncritically;
https://twitter.com/AlyAlyOutnFree/status/1632137002278694912



How can anyone in good conscience pretend this an accurate state of affairs? Or then tell others that this a fair account of life today?
This is literally on the same level as 5G causing coronavirus type fear mongering

[Mostima]

How does that have 66k likes? Where are these trans ghettos? Can they name even a single example of a trans person being starved, deported, or have all their possessions being seized by the government? 

[Propagandhim]

And let's not forget we're are at stage 6 of the Mr Beast Class Consciousness Chocolate Display Case proxy war, where a few kids online are going to their local CVS and carrying out stochastic shelf stocking for a guy that, and let's be honest here, has way too much money to reasonably engage in philanthropy.

[Uncle]

how is it possible to genocide what is presumably a naturally-occurring phenomenon

it's not like genociding all of a race so no one of that ethnicity remains and they die out

you might as well say there's a left-handed people genocide