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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #44220 on: March 11, 2023, 05:10:03 PM »
We all know how Morrigan really feels about non Aryans

Nintex

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #44221 on: March 11, 2023, 05:14:59 PM »
We all know how Morrigan really feels about non Aryans
They is just using Nazi runes ironically like the Azov Battalion riding Leopard tanks.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #44222 on: March 11, 2023, 05:23:01 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/resident-evil-4-copies-are-now-being-spotted-in-the-wild-spoiler-warning-leaks-are-now-dropping.694810/page-19#post-102517549

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People actively stalk members of this website.

Of all the people to defend Dusk Golem being an attention whore...again...

Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #44223 on: March 11, 2023, 05:24:48 PM »
Is she trans?  I feel like she's talked about periods before, but I could be thinking of someone else.

Has a bunch of posts in the Joanne thread and also said this

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At this point I truly do not trust a single cis person (but especially cishet men) in the gaming sphere to not be a transphobic shitbag in one way or another, unless they have vocally come out in support of trans people numerous times & not only did it when it was convenient for them & their clout.

There's zero chance Patsy is a bio woman. No lesbian bio woman would ever say something like that because they know what it's like to be a woman and they would never dismiss cis women like that.

edit: actually after looking at their posting history for a bit I am no longer sure. This person is seriously mentally ill and almost feels like a troll  :neogaf :neogaf

There's a lot of qualifiers in that sentence (and the unnecessary dig at men) that she COULD still be a cis woman and sees herself as meeting all those qualifiers, but either way, it sounds like there's a million and one caveats to her "all women are queens!" attitude expressed in the other post.

I really hope they're a troll because there's almost zero chance someone holding that worldview isn't a miserable person.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #44224 on: March 11, 2023, 05:26:19 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/re4-remake-ada-wongs-design-leaked-spoilers.695596/#post-102491599
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Extreme step on me energy


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Step on me mommy

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Where's her left leg?
Stepping on me

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Capcom continues to appeal to the "I want the big lady to step on me" demographic.

I wish more publishers recognised us.


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It's too early to be simping for Ada on here? :P


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:cop User Banned (1 month): Dismissive commentary around sexualization, antagonizing other members
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Another Ada Wong appereance, another stupid fucking outfit. Capcom never seems to learn. The only kind of non-sexualized (and it was still sexualized) outfit she's had was in RE6. jeez :/
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It's being in a heavily forested area that's the problem, not the existence of heels. It's a consistent pattern of devs sexually objectifying women in video games.
No one criticizing this would have any kind of problem with your partner choosing to wear heels when going out for a night on the town.
Did anyone have a problem with her OG4 attire? Because that's more ridiculous considering the setting/mission. And Ada is completely covered here. Nothing sexualized here unless you make it.


https://www.resetera.com/threads/re4-remake-ada-wongs-design-leaked-spoilers.695596/page-2#post-102503071
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Hummina hummina hummina AWOOOOOOOOGA


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High heels is impractical, but that's why it's a game lol.

She looks great though!


https://www.resetera.com/threads/re4-remake-ada-wongs-design-leaked-spoilers.695596/page-3#post-102504478
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Ada looking fine af


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Capcom continues to appeal to the "I want the big lady to step on me" demographic.

I wish more publishers recognised us.
Between this and SF6 we're going to have a great year.

Thank you Capcom.

 :exxy
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Hap Shaughnessy

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #44225 on: March 11, 2023, 05:30:52 PM »
Quote from: ponderer
As soon as I find a good discord to get my gaming news and discussion fix, I will happily walk away.

I have a strong impulse to lash out against oppression especially when I see it being ignored by leadership. After 4 years of watching resetera devolving back into where it came from, I get too intense for these people and their bodyguard mods so the ban is inevitable at this point.

edit: yes I know this message may get me banned ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-women-criticise-sexualised-character-designs-ot3-her-ass-is-part-of-her-character.275780/page-256#post-102503785
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Averon

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #44226 on: March 11, 2023, 05:32:13 PM »
I'd love to know how Morrigan and her buddies really feel about music videos like WAP. It's just impossible for me to imagine that they're cool with that but scratch their eyes out the second you see an inch of skin on a videogame character

This is essentially their argument:

Quote from: crienne
My biggest issue with any fictional character that "owns their sexuality" is that, well, they're fictional characters. They have no agency of their own.

Now sure, the creator of the character can 100% intend for their creation to be aware of, and embrace, their sexuality. Unfortunately there's a lot of things that can fuck with that intent. The gameplay itself may alter it through animations, voice lines, hit effects, etc. I think the most common pitfall is when the game's camera turns a character meant to own their sexuality into just another object to be ogled by the player.

This goes for other explanations for character designs too. A character artist could explain the outfit of a character like Lily from SF6 by saying she's a child who has no real sense of anything other than her comfort when she's fighting. Okay, sure, I guess that makes sense. But then the person directing cutscenes moves the camera under her in slow motion during a special or victory or whatever and that sort of throws the intent clear out the window.

TL;DR: I'm never going to be ashamed of my words and deeds when I criticize an overly-sexualized character design.

Basically, digital women have no agency, so any sexualization displayed by them, both real and imagined, are merely there to titillate men's desires, which to them is barely better than rape. Whereas videos like WAP were made by real flesh and blood women with agency, so that's fine. Which is funny given how they made E3 booth babes and racing car cheerleaders jobless several years ago, completely disregarding those women's agency.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #44227 on: March 11, 2023, 05:42:26 PM »
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My biggest issue with any fictional character that "owns their sexuality" is that, well, they're fictional characters. They have no agency of their own.

Ogling at video game characters is literally rape
hey

benjipwns

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #44228 on: March 11, 2023, 05:42:33 PM »
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Since some of y’all got mad at me for hopping up on my soapbox…

…I’m going to hop back up on my soapbox.

This thread is also serving as an example of why, if you look in Black woman spaces and listen, there’s a rebellion happening against the very concept of “Black Girl Magic.” What does that have to do with this? Follow me.

Because once upon a time, Black Girl Magic used to be an in-group phrase — something said by Black women, to other Black women, in acknowledgement of Black women. But as time went on and the phrase became more ubiquitous, it became symbolic of the stifling standard put on Black women by society. The yard stick that determined that in order to qualify for personhood as a Black woman, you had to be exceptional. You had to be a Rosa Parks or a Michelle Obama. If not? Well then to the wolves you go.

You’re seeing that play out in this Slap discourse, which is why it has persisted. And not just on Era, this is not a “Just Era” moment.

And that was maybe understandable (it really wasn’t)…a year ago. But it’s over a year later. And Chris Rock continues to attack this woman who continues to not say anything about him publicly. He continues to demean her; he continues to slut shame her; he continues to comment on the nature of her marriage to WIll Smith as some sort of olive branch to WIll.

And for so many people that’s…fine. If Jada was the damsel to WIll’s rage she gets to also be the sacrifice to Chris’ rage. But none of this considers Jada at all. Chris is given a pass to process his trauma by traumatizing someone else. And it’s very difficult to look at this situation in a vacuum and disregard the idea that the extent to which Rock is given that pass has a lot to do with who his victim is.


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Because the fact is so much of this discourse, so much of this aggression, has so little to do with Will at this point. Because even when you control for that; even when you say “Will Smith was wrong. Will Smith shouldn’t have slapped Chris Rock.” If you do not impart perfect and infallible victimhood to Chris Rock, if you even suggest that Jada Pinkett Smith was also wronged, then you have crossed a line.

royalan has been so beaten up, used and knocked down they can't even recognize what it means to stand up.
Remember when he got demodded for not being insane enough. Well, now he is.

And fat.

NekoFever

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #44229 on: March 11, 2023, 05:42:35 PM »
The mental gymnastics for ponderer to be suggesting that the mods protect their favourites but it’s the sexists and other bigots they’re backing.

benjipwns

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #44230 on: March 11, 2023, 05:46:06 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/topless-swimming-now-legal-for-women-and-non-binary-people-in-berlin-public-pools.695437/#post-102502225

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Good. While it's not something I'd ever take advantage of as men already can't behave when I'm wearing a motherfucking turtleneck in the winter because they sexualize big boobs even worse than they already do all others, I know of multiple non-binary friends & some female friends - both trans & cis - who'll absolutely love this. :D

There‘s nothing inherently sexual about boobs, but patriarchal, misogynistic, sexualizing society has drilled that into the heads of most men & also tons of women for such a long time, it‘s so depressing. Hell, breastfeeding is still seen as sexual by tons of men who can‘t keep their dicks in their pants if they see a naked tiddy, when it‘s the most natural thing in the world. If you get hard from seeing a damn nipple, that‘s a problem you yourself need to fix, but do not ever put the burden on the women just fucking living.

Like, I‘m a lesbian. I love boobs. A lot. Because of course I would. I love every little thing about women no matter what they look like or where they come from, I‘d kill a dozen men for them & carry them to the ends of the world, because that‘s what my lesbianism is for me. Near unconditional love for women (who aren’t bigoted or abusive fucks). But I don‘t fucking sexualize nipples or naked boobs no matter how much I like them in the right, sexual setting. Men have no excuses to not unlearn their misogyny & sexualization of women when most lesbians - who others love saying are „just like men“ when it comes to the way we look at women when it couldn‘t be farther from the truth - behave like normal people around naked women.
Fucking MEN, why can't they just get over millions of years of evolution yet. BE NORMAL AND JUST DON'T LOOK WHEN PEOPLE ARE LIVING OR I'LL KILL HORDES OF YOU BECAUSE OF MY DEEPLY THROBBING LOVE FOR WOMEN! :social

Snoopycat_

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #44231 on: March 11, 2023, 05:48:15 PM »

They is just using Nazi runes ironically like the Azov Battalion riding Leopard tanks.

Morrigan - you know I never really “got” rap before but this Kanye guy makes a lot of sense

railGUN

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #44232 on: March 11, 2023, 06:01:18 PM »
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HaughtyFrank

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #44233 on: March 11, 2023, 06:06:26 PM »
I'd love to know how Morrigan and her buddies really feel about music videos like WAP. It's just impossible for me to imagine that they're cool with that but scratch their eyes out the second you see an inch of skin on a videogame character

This is essentially their argument:

Quote from: crienne
My biggest issue with any fictional character that "owns their sexuality" is that, well, they're fictional characters. They have no agency of their own.

Now sure, the creator of the character can 100% intend for their creation to be aware of, and embrace, their sexuality. Unfortunately there's a lot of things that can fuck with that intent. The gameplay itself may alter it through animations, voice lines, hit effects, etc. I think the most common pitfall is when the game's camera turns a character meant to own their sexuality into just another object to be ogled by the player.

This goes for other explanations for character designs too. A character artist could explain the outfit of a character like Lily from SF6 by saying she's a child who has no real sense of anything other than her comfort when she's fighting. Okay, sure, I guess that makes sense. But then the person directing cutscenes moves the camera under her in slow motion during a special or victory or whatever and that sort of throws the intent clear out the window.

TL;DR: I'm never going to be ashamed of my words and deeds when I criticize an overly-sexualized character design.

Basically, digital women have no agency, so any sexualization displayed by them, both real and imagined, are merely there to titillate men's desires, which to them is barely better than rape. Whereas videos like WAP were made by real flesh and blood women with agency, so that's fine. Which is funny given how they made E3 booth babes and racing car cheerleaders jobless several years ago, completely disregarding those women's agency.

The other problem with the argument is that they have no trouble at all applying all sorts of other things to those characters. Like if the character is fictional then can it even really be objectified when it's already an object? I guess at that moment we suddenly start treating the character like a real person again.

Yulwei

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #44234 on: March 11, 2023, 06:10:36 PM »
Their logic falls apart at the slightest prodding. They truly just hate seeing straight men displaying any kind of sexuality. That's all it is  :lol


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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #44235 on: March 11, 2023, 06:14:02 PM »
These are the same weirdos that call Chris Redfield a gay icon and fantasize about him splitting their asses in half when the entire series is one of the most sexless. I guess lack of agency doesn’t matter in that case?
Margs

Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #44236 on: March 11, 2023, 06:26:51 PM »
Staff is having a hissy fit over how the forum reacted to the cunt ban. They've actually added a word filter, which is retroactive. And also impacts staff posts. So now post histories look wacky and the staff post laying down the ban now reads:
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OFFICIAL STAFF COMMUNICATION
As of today we are implementing new policies to curb the use of the word "I have no self control and use rhetoric offensive toward women to punctuate my point" on the site.

How
Before we start issuing bans for use of the word, we will be actioning users with warnings (minus threadbans unless deemed appropriate) until April 1st. Said warnings can be seen as a tap on the shoulder in order to prime members for the new guidelines. Then the below banning guidelines will take effect.

Users will be actioned using the following general guidelines (for exceptions see the next section)
- Using it towards a public figure will result in a 1 week ban if said public figure is a man; 2 weeks if the public figure is a woman
- Using it towards another user will result in a 2 week ban, a month or more if the targeted user is a woman

Exceptions
These are merely guidelines and context will dictate if staff go above or below these stated ban lengths. For example, women members of the site will not be actioned as harshly for not following these guidelines. The reason for that is simply the misogynistic use and history of the term, and as such women users have a right to reclaim it. Again it is going to come down to the context of how the word is used.

Why?
This is possibly the most contentious word that has been argued over behind scenes, for years at this point. It generates both reports and argumentative feedback, which we have not been able to handle with consistency. That changes now.

The simple fact of the matter is that the word "I have no self control and use rhetoric offensive toward women to punctuate my point" is a misogynistic and gendered slur against women, as well as those perceived/treated by society as women. At best people can and have argued that it's a very emotionally charged expletive. Some will say it isn't a slur or not so charged in certain regions of the English speaking sphere. However after years of internal debate and insight from relevant staff we have finally decided that this is a word we want to see less of on the forum. Previous internal debates led to us being inconsistent in how we have moderated use of the word, which we are rectifying with this policy update. These new guidelines are being carved in the public record for both the benefit you (users) and us (staff). We stand by our decision and this is not up for debate. Feedback is welcome but this is not a dialog for future policy.

"But [word] is allowed and not moderated."
While we are coming down on the use of "I have no self control and use rhetoric offensive toward women to punctuate my point" now, this does not mean we will not create nor alter policy regarding other words we find too objectionable or harmful to minorities members of the site. No, this is not an opportunity to suggest words you would like to see actioned on the site. Again, this is a statement of policy and not a dialog for future policy. Inflammatory whataboutism posts will be moderated accordingly.

Sincerely,
ResetEra Staff

Constructive now has people asking for the filter be removed because it's ridiculous.

I'm just enjoying that there's now apparently no way to know what word is banned because the post laying down the ban no longer contains the actual banned word.

They keep finding ways to be worse at this.

Quote from: Guppeth
Oh my god, half of my posting history looks bonkers now. 😄
Quote from: Morrigan
Oh no, my old posts too 😂

Please staff, remove that filter, it's unnecessary and awkward! xD

Edit: and yeah as the post below me says, it also affects the mod post and any other kind of context... like if I tell a story about how someone called me a "c-word", or whatever, it'll mess it up too 😭
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OMG.  I thought it was users in that thread using the mod post text to be extra pissy.  Hahaha.  Even the original modpost reads really goofy now.  And actually... If you weren't here at the time you would no longer what word is banned so that might need modified a bit.
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And I feel sorry for anyone who lives in the industrial town in North Lincolnshire, SI have no self control and use rhetoric offensive toward women to punctuate my pointhorpe.
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lmaoooo
Ok yeah that filter has gotta go 🙏
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I agree with others that the world filter needs to go, especially since it's affecting the actual announcement banning the word. Plus the replacement for the word just seems super petty and is asking for people to complain more than they already are.

I'm all for the banning of the word personally, but this filter isn't the way. Additionally, the mod post said women would be allowed to reclaim the word if they want, but how exactly can we do that if it's being filtered???

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #44237 on: March 11, 2023, 06:28:53 PM »
ponderer going insane about all the oppressive sexism on ERA:

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Makes me so fucking sad that it's okay to make people feel uncomfortable on this forum, but if I go yell at the simps I'll get in trouble, my time here is coming to an end, the recent capcom thirst threads along with all the other hypocrite bullshit I see day in and day out has made that clear to me.

Quote from: ponderer
As soon as I find a good discord to get my gaming news and discussion fix, I will happily walk away.

I have a strong impulse to lash out against oppression especially when I see it being ignored by leadership. After 4 years of watching resetera devolving back into where it came from, I get too intense for these people and their bodyguard mods so the ban is inevitable at this point.

edit: yes I know this message may get me banned ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Even Morrigan--Morrigan!--is talking sense, but it doesn't matter. They are convinced the sexist oppression on ERA has run amuck for too long:

Quote from: ponderer
Quote from: Morrigan
Will you stop with the mod-whining and attempts at self-martyrization? I guarantee you that mods are reading this only rolling their eyes. Just report the posts you think break the rules.
Lmfao whatever, I don’t give a fuck about myself

One look at this forum shows how effective reporting is, when you literally for years have people use reporting and complaining in this thread about the rest of the forum.

So funny how people always ignore the one's actually being hurt.

How many times have I mod-whined? Shit, baseless, poor, weak ass argument, Morrigan.

That's just a cry for help. These people are insane and should all unplug from the internet.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #44238 on: March 11, 2023, 06:32:48 PM »
I love when they call themselves staff and use bullshit, legal sounding language to ban people and then pull the pettiest shit  :lol

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #44239 on: March 11, 2023, 06:38:04 PM »
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As of today we are implementing new policies to curb the use of the word "I have no self control and use rhetoric offensive toward women to punctuate my point" on the site.

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railGUN

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #44240 on: March 11, 2023, 06:46:22 PM »
Okay, so what happens if you are non-binary and use it against a non-binary public figure who is also a member of REE?
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #44241 on: March 11, 2023, 06:56:58 PM »
Okay, so what happens if you are non-binary and use it against a non-binary public figure who is also a member of REE?
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #44242 on: March 11, 2023, 07:15:08 PM »
Staff is having a hissy fit over how the forum reacted to the cunt ban. They've actually added a word filter, which is retroactive.

Did they reverse the word filter, or does it only affect the community thread? Still says "cunt" here:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/rishi-sunak%E2%80%99s-plan-to-stop-small-boat-crossings-breaks-international-law-un-says-sunak-says-hes-up-for-the-fight-in-the-courts.694225/page-2#post-102342481
« Last Edit: March 11, 2023, 07:22:12 PM by Hap Shaughnessy »
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HaughtyFrank

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #44243 on: March 11, 2023, 07:33:17 PM »
I think they already reversed it

Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #44244 on: March 11, 2023, 07:34:45 PM »
Yeah, somebody reversed it--the staff post is back to normal.

I wonder how many mods voted for that change vs how many had to vote to revert.

Averon

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #44245 on: March 11, 2023, 07:44:40 PM »
Why is it so hard for them to mod a forum  :neogaf

Just tell the loons to follow the TOS--after getting a long needed update--and that's it. They always run into trouble when they try to get too cute with the--unwritten--rules and play favoritism. Just stop. Stop with the unwritten rules. Stop with the favoritism. Stop with the arbitrary, hypocritical moderation. Just point to the updated TOS. That is all they have to do.
« Last Edit: March 12, 2023, 12:51:57 AM by Averon »

Propagandhim

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #44246 on: March 11, 2023, 08:16:40 PM »
Well first you have to get normal people to be moderators, which hasn't happened

TacoWallace

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #44247 on: March 11, 2023, 08:21:01 PM »
And then you need to get new members besides GAF migrants and GameFAQs runoff, which hasn't happened

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #44248 on: March 11, 2023, 08:25:56 PM »
Staff is having a hissy fit over how the forum reacted to the cunt ban. They've actually added a word filter, which is retroactive. And also impacts staff posts. So now post histories look wacky and the staff post laying down the ban now reads:
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eb 13, 2023
Add bookmark
#8,815
OFFICIAL STAFF COMMUNICATION
As of today we are implementing new policies to curb the use of the word "I have no self control and use rhetoric offensive toward women to punctuate my point" on the site.

How
Before we start issuing bans for use of the word, we will be actioning users with warnings (minus threadbans unless deemed appropriate) until April 1st. Said warnings can be seen as a tap on the shoulder in order to prime members for the new guidelines. Then the below banning guidelines will take effect.

Users will be actioned using the following general guidelines (for exceptions see the next section)
- Using it towards a public figure will result in a 1 week ban if said public figure is a man; 2 weeks if the public figure is a woman
- Using it towards another user will result in a 2 week ban, a month or more if the targeted user is a woman

Exceptions
These are merely guidelines and context will dictate if staff go above or below these stated ban lengths. For example, women members of the site will not be actioned as harshly for not following these guidelines. The reason for that is simply the misogynistic use and history of the term, and as such women users have a right to reclaim it. Again it is going to come down to the context of how the word is used.

Why?
This is possibly the most contentious word that has been argued over behind scenes, for years at this point. It generates both reports and argumentative feedback, which we have not been able to handle with consistency. That changes now.

The simple fact of the matter is that the word "I have no self control and use rhetoric offensive toward women to punctuate my point" is a misogynistic and gendered slur against women, as well as those perceived/treated by society as women. At best people can and have argued that it's a very emotionally charged expletive. Some will say it isn't a slur or not so charged in certain regions of the English speaking sphere. However after years of internal debate and insight from relevant staff we have finally decided that this is a word we want to see less of on the forum. Previous internal debates led to us being inconsistent in how we have moderated use of the word, which we are rectifying with this policy update. These new guidelines are being carved in the public record for both the benefit you (users) and us (staff). We stand by our decision and this is not up for debate. Feedback is welcome but this is not a dialog for future policy.

"But [word] is allowed and not moderated."
While we are coming down on the use of "I have no self control and use rhetoric offensive toward women to punctuate my point" now, this does not mean we will not create nor alter policy regarding other words we find too objectionable or harmful to minorities members of the site. No, this is not an opportunity to suggest words you would like to see actioned on the site. Again, this is a statement of policy and not a dialog for future policy. Inflammatory whataboutism posts will be moderated accordingly.

Sincerely,
ResetEra Staff

Constructive now has people asking for the filter be removed because it's ridiculous.

I'm just enjoying that there's now apparently no way to know what word is banned because the post laying down the ban no longer contains the actual banned word.

They keep finding ways to be worse at this.

Quote from: Guppeth
Oh my god, half of my posting history looks bonkers now. 😄
Quote from: Morrigan
Oh no, my old posts too 😂

Please staff, remove that filter, it's unnecessary and awkward! xD

Edit: and yeah as the post below me says, it also affects the mod post and any other kind of context... like if I tell a story about how someone called me a "c-word", or whatever, it'll mess it up too 😭
Quote from: Tendo
OMG.  I thought it was users in that thread using the mod post text to be extra pissy.  Hahaha.  Even the original modpost reads really goofy now.  And actually... If you weren't here at the time you would no longer what word is banned so that might need modified a bit.
Quote from: Guppeth
And I feel sorry for anyone who lives in the industrial town in North Lincolnshire, SI have no self control and use rhetoric offensive toward women to punctuate my pointhorpe.
Quote from: Morrigan
lmaoooo
Ok yeah that filter has gotta go 🙏
Quote from: lokiduck
I agree with others that the world filter needs to go, especially since it's affecting the actual announcement banning the word. Plus the replacement for the word just seems super petty and is asking for people to complain more than they already are.

I'm all for the banning of the word personally, but this filter isn't the way. Additionally, the mod post said women would be allowed to reclaim the word if they want, but how exactly can we do that if it's being filtered???
Honestly, how are these cunts so bad at this moderation thing?
Spud

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #44249 on: March 11, 2023, 08:32:52 PM »
The trick to good moderation is to not communicate with your community and treat them like peasants

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #44250 on: March 11, 2023, 08:38:59 PM »
https://www.reddit.com/r/mildlyinfuriating/comments/11p07ln/wife_home_alone_sleeping_and_woke_up_to_this/
Get this guy linked up with that nut on Resetera who claimed UPS broke into his house.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #44251 on: March 11, 2023, 08:47:59 PM »
Quote from: Morrigan
Oh no, my old posts too 😂

Please staff, remove that filter, it's unnecessary and awkward! xD

Edit: and yeah as the post below me says, it also affects the mod post and any other kind of context... like if I tell a story about how someone called me a "c-word", or whatever, it'll mess it up too 😭

I enjoy the insinuation that she gets called a cunt so often (which I’m sure is only due to sexism and misogyny) that she’s lamenting not being able to tell regular stories about it :lol
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #44252 on: March 11, 2023, 08:53:23 PM »
Bruce Jenner?

Quote
Why do 99% of them look like the goblins in that infamous GDQ pic?

Don't be like that  :fbm 

People are just trying to live.  A lot of them don't bother anyone.

That's cool... But they still look like goblins

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #44253 on: March 11, 2023, 08:55:12 PM »
:info
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #44254 on: March 11, 2023, 09:07:46 PM »
rude

 :hmph

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #44255 on: March 11, 2023, 09:09:23 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/topless-swimming-now-legal-for-women-and-non-binary-people-in-berlin-public-pools.695437/#post-102502225

Quote from: Patsy, post: 102502225, member: 57582
Good. While it's not something I'd ever take advantage of as men already can't behave when I'm wearing a motherfucking turtleneck in the winter because they sexualize big boobs even worse than they already do all others, I know of multiple non-binary friends & some female friends - both trans & cis - who'll absolutely love this. :D

There‘s nothing inherently sexual about boobs, but patriarchal, misogynistic, sexualizing society has drilled that into the heads of most men & also tons of women for such a long time, it‘s so depressing. Hell, breastfeeding is still seen as sexual by tons of men who can‘t keep their dicks in their pants if they see a naked tiddy, when it‘s the most natural thing in the world. If you get hard from seeing a damn nipple, that‘s a problem you yourself need to fix, but do not ever put the burden on the women just fucking living.

Like, I‘m a lesbian. I love boobs. A lot. Because of course I would. I love every little thing about women no matter what they look like or where they come from, I‘d kill a dozen men for them & carry them to the ends of the world, because that‘s what my lesbianism is for me. Near unconditional love for women (who aren’t bigoted or abusive fucks). But I don‘t fucking sexualize nipples or naked boobs no matter how much I like them in the right, sexual setting. Men have no excuses to not unlearn their misogyny & sexualization of women when most lesbians - who others love saying are „just like men“ when it comes to the way we look at women when it couldn‘t be farther from the truth - behave like normal people around naked women.

So many users on this website give the feeling that their brain is leaking out of their fucking ears when they post. Just bizarrely unhinged and combative when no one is even addressing them or even brought up whatever straw man they’re attacking.

What a load of bullshit. Prison school settled this years ago



It's evolution baby
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #44256 on: March 11, 2023, 09:17:09 PM »
Bruce Jenner?

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Why do 99% of them look like the goblins in that infamous GDQ pic?

Don't be like that  :fbm 

People are just trying to live.  A lot of them don't bother anyone.

That's cool... But they still look like goblins
Goblins are Jews, not trans people. :bolo

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #44257 on: March 11, 2023, 09:19:27 PM »

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #44258 on: March 11, 2023, 09:48:30 PM »
(Image removed from quote.)
It's evolution baby

what the fuck?  :sabu :sabu that's hilarious

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #44259 on: March 11, 2023, 09:52:40 PM »
Prison school. Watch the clip I posted. Shit is hilarious and I always wanted another season :(


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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #44260 on: March 11, 2023, 10:12:40 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/re4-remake-ada-wongs-design-leaked-spoilers.695596/#post-102491599
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:cop User Banned (2 weeks): Objectifying commentary, boy's club rhetoric
Quote from: Milennia
Extreme step on me energy


https://www.resetera.com/threads/re4-remake-ada-wongs-design-leaked-spoilers.695596/page-2#post-102497971
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:cop User Banned (2 week): objectifying commentary, boy's club rhetoric
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Step on me mommy

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:cop User Banned (2 week): objectifying commentary, boy's club rhetoric
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Quote from: ROMASS
Where's her left leg?
Stepping on me

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:cop User Banned (2 weeks): Objectifying commentary, boy's club rhetoric
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Capcom continues to appeal to the "I want the big lady to step on me" demographic.

I wish more publishers recognised us.


https://www.resetera.com/threads/re4-remake-ada-wongs-design-leaked-spoilers.695596/page-2#post-102499696
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:cop User Banned (2 weeks): Objectifying commentary, boy's club rhetoric
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It's too early to be simping for Ada on here? :P


https://www.resetera.com/threads/re4-remake-ada-wongs-design-leaked-spoilers.695596/page-2#post-102501547
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:cop User Banned (2 week): objectifying commentary, boy's club rhetoric
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(Image removed from quote.)


https://www.resetera.com/threads/re4-remake-ada-wongs-design-leaked-spoilers.695596/page-2#post-102502906
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:cop User Banned (1 month): Dismissive commentary around sexualization, antagonizing other members
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Another Ada Wong appereance, another stupid fucking outfit. Capcom never seems to learn. The only kind of non-sexualized (and it was still sexualized) outfit she's had was in RE6. jeez :/
Quote from: Vonocourt
It's being in a heavily forested area that's the problem, not the existence of heels. It's a consistent pattern of devs sexually objectifying women in video games.
No one criticizing this would have any kind of problem with your partner choosing to wear heels when going out for a night on the town.
Did anyone have a problem with her OG4 attire? Because that's more ridiculous considering the setting/mission. And Ada is completely covered here. Nothing sexualized here unless you make it.


https://www.resetera.com/threads/re4-remake-ada-wongs-design-leaked-spoilers.695596/page-2#post-102503071
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:cop User banned (1 month): objectifying and sexist commentary
Quote from: Haze
Hummina hummina hummina AWOOOOOOOOGA


https://www.resetera.com/threads/re4-remake-ada-wongs-design-leaked-spoilers.695596/page-2#post-102504289
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:cop User Banned (2 weeks): dismissive commentary, boy's club rhetoric
Quote from: Arex
High heels is impractical, but that's why it's a game lol.

She looks great though!


https://www.resetera.com/threads/re4-remake-ada-wongs-design-leaked-spoilers.695596/page-3#post-102504478
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:cop User Banned (2 week): objectifying commentary, boy's club rhetoric
Quote from: Derkon
Ada looking fine af


https://www.resetera.com/threads/re4-remake-ada-wongs-design-leaked-spoilers.695596/page-3#post-102504799
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:cop User Banned (2 weeks): Objectifying commentary, boy's club rhetoric
Quote from: JurassicJack17
Quote from: SCUMMbag
Capcom continues to appeal to the "I want the big lady to step on me" demographic.

I wish more publishers recognised us.
Between this and SF6 we're going to have a great year.

Thank you Capcom.

 :exxy
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Is every Capcom thread just horny posting now
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Yeah, it's like a competition to see who can make the women in this forum most uncomfortable with the thirst

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #44261 on: March 11, 2023, 10:14:25 PM »
Yeah but thirsting for Chris redfield is OK. ok?

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #44262 on: March 11, 2023, 10:29:38 PM »
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Is every Capcom thread just horny posting now
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Yeah, it's like a competition to see who can make the women in this forum most uncomfortable with the thirst
You ever think they wonder why there's tons of women on Twitter, which does nothing against "boys club rhetoric" and never has, but barely any on their own forum that cracks down relentlessly on any signs of cishetnormative sexuality even as the number of women who play games increases?

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #44263 on: March 11, 2023, 11:13:53 PM »
Staff is having a hissy fit over how the forum reacted to the cunt ban. They've actually added a word filter, which is retroactive. And also impacts staff posts. So now post histories look wacky and the staff post laying down the ban now reads:
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OFFICIAL STAFF COMMUNICATION
As of today we are implementing new policies to curb the use of the word "I have no self control and use rhetoric offensive toward women to punctuate my point" on the site.

How
Before we start issuing bans for use of the word, we will be actioning users with warnings (minus threadbans unless deemed appropriate) until April 1st. Said warnings can be seen as a tap on the shoulder in order to prime members for the new guidelines. Then the below banning guidelines will take effect.

Users will be actioned using the following general guidelines (for exceptions see the next section)
- Using it towards a public figure will result in a 1 week ban if said public figure is a man; 2 weeks if the public figure is a woman
- Using it towards another user will result in a 2 week ban, a month or more if the targeted user is a woman

Exceptions
These are merely guidelines and context will dictate if staff go above or below these stated ban lengths. For example, women members of the site will not be actioned as harshly for not following these guidelines. The reason for that is simply the misogynistic use and history of the term, and as such women users have a right to reclaim it. Again it is going to come down to the context of how the word is used.

Why?
This is possibly the most contentious word that has been argued over behind scenes, for years at this point. It generates both reports and argumentative feedback, which we have not been able to handle with consistency. That changes now.

The simple fact of the matter is that the word "I have no self control and use rhetoric offensive toward women to punctuate my point" is a misogynistic and gendered slur against women, as well as those perceived/treated by society as women. At best people can and have argued that it's a very emotionally charged expletive. Some will say it isn't a slur or not so charged in certain regions of the English speaking sphere. However after years of internal debate and insight from relevant staff we have finally decided that this is a word we want to see less of on the forum. Previous internal debates led to us being inconsistent in how we have moderated use of the word, which we are rectifying with this policy update. These new guidelines are being carved in the public record for both the benefit you (users) and us (staff). We stand by our decision and this is not up for debate. Feedback is welcome but this is not a dialog for future policy.

"But [word] is allowed and not moderated."
While we are coming down on the use of "I have no self control and use rhetoric offensive toward women to punctuate my point" now, this does not mean we will not create nor alter policy regarding other words we find too objectionable or harmful to minorities members of the site. No, this is not an opportunity to suggest words you would like to see actioned on the site. Again, this is a statement of policy and not a dialog for future policy. Inflammatory whataboutism posts will be moderated accordingly.

Sincerely,
ResetEra Staff

Constructive now has people asking for the filter be removed because it's ridiculous.

I'm just enjoying that there's now apparently no way to know what word is banned because the post laying down the ban no longer contains the actual banned word.

They keep finding ways to be worse at this.

Quote from: Guppeth
Oh my god, half of my posting history looks bonkers now. 😄
Quote from: Morrigan
Oh no, my old posts too 😂

Please staff, remove that filter, it's unnecessary and awkward! xD

Edit: and yeah as the post below me says, it also affects the mod post and any other kind of context... like if I tell a story about how someone called me a "c-word", or whatever, it'll mess it up too 😭
Quote from: Tendo
OMG.  I thought it was users in that thread using the mod post text to be extra pissy.  Hahaha.  Even the original modpost reads really goofy now.  And actually... If you weren't here at the time you would no longer what word is banned so that might need modified a bit.
Quote from: Guppeth
And I feel sorry for anyone who lives in the industrial town in North Lincolnshire, SI have no self control and use rhetoric offensive toward women to punctuate my pointhorpe.
Quote from: Morrigan
lmaoooo
Ok yeah that filter has gotta go 🙏
Quote from: lokiduck
I agree with others that the world filter needs to go, especially since it's affecting the actual announcement banning the word. Plus the replacement for the word just seems super petty and is asking for people to complain more than they already are.

I'm all for the banning of the word personally, but this filter isn't the way. Additionally, the mod post said women would be allowed to reclaim the word if they want, but how exactly can we do that if it's being filtered???
Honestly, how are these cunts so bad at this moderation thing?

so it seems they said they would hand out warnings until april and then it would be a one week ban for calling rishi sunak a cunt...

not only did they start handing out bans before the deadline they set was out, they already started exceeding the max sentence!

imagine if any of these cunts were given any power that actually mattered  :lol

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #44264 on: March 11, 2023, 11:25:05 PM »
so it seems they said they would hand out warnings until april and then it would be a one week ban for calling rishi sunak a cunt...

not only did they start handing out bans before the deadline they set was out, they already started exceeding the max sentence!

imagine if any of these cunts were given any power that actually mattered  :lol
Sentencing enhancements for deliberately violating the rules during an ongoing crisis. The part of the ban solely for saying cunt was still within the guidelines.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #44265 on: March 11, 2023, 11:29:00 PM »
I fucking love how games that objectify women are totally fine on REE, but commenting on said objectified women will land you in a couple week time out.

If you're so afraid that the women on REE are so uncomfortable then ban any game that shows any women in anything less than a winter parka, or accept the fact that guys with eyeballs will post their benign opinions on the things they are looking at.

It's such a fucking parody at this point it's hard to believe that it's real. If you think this:

Quote
High heels is impractical, but that's why it's a game lol.

She looks great though!

is "boys club rhetoric" then you've never been in a boys club in your life.
Fish<

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #44266 on: March 11, 2023, 11:29:22 PM »
This is why they hate writing down rules because they constantly change shit on a whim

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #44267 on: March 11, 2023, 11:36:25 PM »
If you think this:

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High heels is impractical, but that's why it's a game lol.

She looks great though!

is "boys club rhetoric" then you've never been in a boys club in your life.
I think I'll take the judgement of at least three staff members, all of whom had to research the topic due to their position, over someone who proudly admits to having been in a boys club that regularly violated the consent of women. :jeanluc

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #44268 on: March 11, 2023, 11:50:44 PM »
High heels are great because they can't run as fast

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #44269 on: March 11, 2023, 11:51:03 PM »
wait

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #44270 on: March 11, 2023, 11:56:09 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/ruminating-on-friends-why-they-don%E2%80%99t-talk-to-me-anymore.696040/
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So lately I’ve been feeling pretty down because of my lack of friends. Furthermore, noticing friends that I don’t really talk to anymore hanging out with each other. It makes me feel left out. The best man at my wedding barely talks to me anymore. We live like 4 hours apart but every time I text him, he ghosts me. And I recently found out that he and another one of my old friends in the same group went to a concert that I really wanted to go to, and never mentioned it to me.

Then I see people on Instagram having a great time with each other. I instantly feel like shit. It feels like my life is worthless, and that no one ever really liked me to begin with. I’ve felt so lonely the past few months trying to find friends and feeling rejected every time. I don’t want to get close to anyone because I am afraid of that rejection. This isn’t the first time I’ve been rejected; I’ve always felt like I just don’t fit in with anyone.

I dunno, it just really hurts when people you used to be close to act like they don’t give a shit about you suddenly. It makes me feel worthless to be honest. And it makes finding new friends and talking to people hard. I don’t even want to go through that process anymore and would rather just spend time with my wife. I get so depressed about this.
Dude really needs to log off from Ree.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #44271 on: March 11, 2023, 11:59:08 PM »
Ironically, that's something social media algorithms can actually be blamed for. It creates an illusion that you're being deliberately and specifically left out because you can see events you would not have otherwise known happened.

He doesn't talk to any of these people (sometimes texts one) but feels rejected because they didn't think of someone who doesn't talk to them. :rollsafe

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #44272 on: March 11, 2023, 11:59:59 PM »
that's how I feel whenever i send a pm to benji and they never respond

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #44273 on: March 12, 2023, 12:01:57 AM »
that's how I feel whenever i send a pm to benji and they never respond
I only respond to PMs in physical form, I'm collecting yours until I can justify an entire book.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #44274 on: March 12, 2023, 12:03:49 AM »
That's copyright infringement.

Your lawyers are being notified by my lawyers.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #44275 on: March 12, 2023, 12:08:57 AM »
Lawyers? That relic of capitalism, colonialism and white supremacy? :neogaf

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #44276 on: March 12, 2023, 12:09:47 AM »
They're Asian.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #44277 on: March 12, 2023, 12:11:58 AM »
I "took a copyright infringement (downloaded mp3s with Napster), left a copyright infringement (of Cauliflower of Love's PMs)" so you have no case sir. :snob

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #44278 on: March 12, 2023, 12:14:42 AM »
You and your bird law!

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #44279 on: March 12, 2023, 04:34:02 AM »
If you think this:

Quote
High heels is impractical, but that's why it's a game lol.

She looks great though!

is "boys club rhetoric" then you've never been in a boys club in your life.
I think I'll take the judgement of at least three staff members, all of whom had to research the topic due to their position, over someone who proudly admits to having been in a boys club that regularly violated the consent of women. :jeanluc
Are there even 3 straight men on the moderation team? How do they manage to assemble the required number of mods who have the appropriate knowledge of "boys club behaviour" to have that discussion and decide on those bans?
Spud