https://www.resetera.com/threads/its-insane-to-me-that-in-2023-the-south-park-episodes-featuring-muhammad-are-still-banned.719278/page-3#post-105672250
It's a show where nothing is sacred.
I get the whole cultural relativism argument you're throwing out there, but where do you draw the line on that?
Should we respect conservative religious beliefs that demean and disrespect women?
Honestly didn't expect this thread to veer off into tense controversy itself in less than 30 posts. Nobody in this thread, as far as I can tell, is disrespecting anyone on the issue of race. It's purely about a religious belief that is incompatible with free speech.
I think it's pretty telling your mind went to this. Do you consider yourself a free speech warrior? Cause your free speech ain't getting eroded over this issue. It's getting eroded over laws and bills against protesting, violence and kidnapping against protestors of police brutality, laws making BDS illegal, educating students over history, systemic racism, firing people for pro-palestinian sentiment, and more. Access to free speech is not equally distributed along lines of class, race, gender, etc.
Check this out: Islam as a religion doesn't respect separation between church and state.
Western Muslims do because they've been raised in a culture that's not 500 years or more out of date. So when they say "hey, can we use Sharia Law to settle our disputes?" it's totally fine because nobody but crazies expects them to start trying to impose it on everyone else. They're already operating with a pluralistic culture as the base.
We can't say that for the rest of Islam, you know how we know? They want to murder people who depict their delusional questionably ethical founder who some allege may have been a pedophile.
Considering your own stance as a panopticon state advocate this take is massively hypocritical because what you want would quickly accelerate to having the state punish the rest of us for blasphemy again. Just because you'll be immune since someone will have convinced you to stand with your mouth open in a rain storm and you drowned or whatever dumb thing you'll fall for next is no reason to impose a counter Reformation on the rest of us.
I have never understood the fascination to depict the Prophet. We are the tolerant left but for some reason many people are ok with this thing. It hurts the sentiments of a large group of people. It’s literally prohibited in their religion.
These episodes not being available is a good thing. Like how old harmful depictions are removed from streaming. . Now I am Not saying that if somebody does depict the prophet should be murdered. But people shouldn’t t be surprised when people get upset about it.
Would you demand the same for Christianity? For white people? For males? For capital-G Gamers? Of course you wouldn't because you've already been normalized to not respect any of the tenets of those by social and cultural convention. Your resistance to this in the case of Islam is bigotry. No, I'm not making a snide joke, it literally is. All those other examples you say "they can handle it so it's fine" and in the case of Islam you think "backwards darkies who will never understand, so us civilized people need to not upset them." You concede the criticism that it's not civilized but rather than ask Islam to DO BETTER and join the rest of us in at least 1750s or so you think there should be a White Man's Burden to protect the backwards tribes from having their irrational and delusional feelings hurt.
It's very droll and trite of me to talk about how "progressives", as distilled by ResetERA.com, are a multi-century reactionary revolt against Enlightenment era liberalism but their treatment of speech and particularly the long fight against blasphemy is to me the exemplar point of this argument. Especially since you damn well know they'll go from saying "it's just basic kindness" to "THERE OUTTA BE A LAW WITH REAL CONSEQUENCES" in less time than it takes me to count all the Nazis at the table.
