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benjipwns

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #50580 on: May 17, 2023, 09:45:18 PM »
Usually they ban people they disagree with and hide behind "a large volume of reports" for closures!

I guess this isn't a thread closure but the follow-up post confirming it was, in fact, personal did make me laugh:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-crimes-and-hatred-of-ron-desantis-ot-a-megathread-for-florida-legislation-updates.697558/post-105791962
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[INFO]Normally we wouldn't do this, creating an OT to contain the actions of a single governor, but in the case of DeSantis we felt it was necessary. In his quest to win the Republican nomination, Ron DeSantis has made it his mission to pass as much bigoted legislation as possible. So this OT will be regularly updated to keep you updated with his latest news.

While we believe that shining a light on his actions can help to fight them, we also have to consider the feelings of the marginalized people in Florida, and around the nation he seeks to run, on the forum. So this thread will not allow generalizing that all Floridians approve of this behavior, and poor taste gifs. Keep in mind that Floridians are actually on this forum, and especially LGBTQIA+ people are scared for their lives.[/INFO]
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I'm a Floridian myself, born and raised here. And as a queer person I am absolutely fucking terrified. We have to take this seriously.
I'm not actually understanding what the purpose of this thread is supposed to be.

Hap Shaughnessy

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #50581 on: May 17, 2023, 09:48:06 PM »
Containment thread. The pinned one isn't working.
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benjipwns

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« Reply #50582 on: May 17, 2023, 10:01:27 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/its-insane-to-me-that-in-2023-the-south-park-episodes-featuring-muhammad-are-still-banned.719278/

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-los-angeles-dodgers-removed-drag-nun-group-from-their-lgbtq-pride-night-because-of-the-catholic-league-and-marco-rubio.720487/

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You've missed the point.

Islam is effectively racialized in the eyes of bigots, where they don't distinguish based on tenants, but on skin colour instead.
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You cannot divorce Islamophobia from race.

That ship has long since sailed, specifically when dealing with bigots.

With that in mind, I'm completely fine with these episodes remaining banned because those same bigots that are likely to shoot up a mosque, or attack anyone that physically matches the "look", will use that material to further dehumanize Muslims.
Catholics and Marco Rubio are white or white-adjacent. :ufup

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #50584 on: May 18, 2023, 02:06:37 AM »

benjipwns

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #50585 on: May 18, 2023, 02:30:38 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/joe-scarborough-from-morning-joe-almost-outed-redacted-in-reference-to-teacher-jenna-barbee-showing-movie-strange-world-in-class-thoughts.720526/#post-105831412

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Sure, Joe Scarborough is anti-Trump and on MSNBC, but it’s helpful to remember that he also was a three-term GOP congressman from the Florida district currently occupied by Matt Gaetz. So it’s no surprise that he’s an asshole, too.
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While we believe that shining a light on his actions can help to fight them, we also have to consider the feelings of the marginalized people in Florida, and around the nation he seeks to run, on the forum. So this thread will not allow generalizing that all Floridians approve of this behavior, and poor taste gifs. Keep in mind that Floridians are actually on this forum, and especially LGBTQIA+ people are scared for their lives.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #50586 on: May 18, 2023, 03:23:13 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/people-are-too-tired-to-lead-healthier-lifestyles-uk-survey-finds.720337/
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This makes so much sense, when you also consider the crazy bills folks are paying these days, in combination with still low wages in the face of inflation.
In Ree's case they just complain they're too tired for whatever bad thing is going on.


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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #50588 on: May 18, 2023, 04:46:11 AM »
What it has to do with this thread?

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Elon Musk launched a baseless Twitter attack on George Soros, a frequent target for antisemitic conspiracy theories, accusing the financier of hating humanity days after Soros disclosed having sold off a modest stake in Tesla.

Such a hero, Elon.

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« Reply #50589 on: May 18, 2023, 04:53:57 AM »
What it has to do with this thread?

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Elon Musk launched a baseless Twitter attack on George Soros, a frequent target for antisemitic conspiracy theories, accusing the financier of hating humanity days after Soros disclosed having sold off a modest stake in Tesla.

Such a hero, Elon.

Mea Culpa bro. Got my tabs mixed up, meant to paste it in the Atomwaffen forum Muskrat to buy Twitter thread.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #50590 on: May 18, 2023, 06:18:45 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/people-are-too-tired-to-lead-healthier-lifestyles-uk-survey-finds.720337/
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This makes so much sense, when you also consider the crazy bills folks are paying these days, in combination with still low wages in the face of inflation.
In Ree's case they just complain they're too tired for whatever bad thing is going on.

This thread is so funny

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Just wanna say that living a healthier lifestyle makes you less tired. Chicken or the egg thing.

everyone is entitled to live their life the way they want, but if you want to be healthier, no excuses. Start yesterday.

And this response to this

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If it were that easy, we wouldn't be having the problems we're having on an increasingly larger scale. Maybe the fact that so many people struggle to "just be healthier" is due to there being broader hurdles that are difficult if not near improbable to navigate.

Funny thing is the person they’re quoting is 100% right, I’ve just started the gym life and it’s 100% right, going out and getting exercise makes you less tired, you just need to get up and go as it were.

Don’t sit around on a forum all day doom posting claiming how tired you are of bullshit, cancel that crap out of your life instead of just being a negative Nancy all day

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That "wiggle room" is all that's ever talked about. All the burden is on us, it's always about "what the individual can do" while ignoring the big issues, like everything falling apart around us. Personal responsibility wouldn't be so difficult if everything else wasn't actively impairing us at every step of the way.

We're not invincible, we don't have infinite willpower, everything around us is trying to break us.

What a fucking pussy, Wah Wah my life is so hard it’s everyone/everything else that’s to blame

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This will piss off a lot of posters here, but why do people act like there’s a difference between the “5am gym people” and themselves? The only difference is they made an effort to go and you didn’t. For these cycles to change there has to be an element of personal responsibility. I understand these systemic things that drive people to these lifestyles but blaming external factors like 9-5 work is an excuse. These factors aren’t going to change. If you have time to post on a forum you have time to go for a walk or exercise.

I have an hour commute on the bus each morning and afternoon, I either leave at 6am to train before work or go on my lunch break. Go for a walk. Eat better food. Meal prep so you don’t have to do it on weeknights. Drink less sugary shit or alcohol. These are all things people can do and blaming the “world falling apart” or other external factors is just deflection and yes, resistance.


And this guy is getting a load of stick as you’d expect lol
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Nintex

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #50591 on: May 18, 2023, 06:28:46 AM »
Remember when Pokemon Go dropped and literally every lazy fuck started to scout the neighbourhood.  :lol
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #50592 on: May 18, 2023, 06:51:28 AM »
I once saw a guy jogging along the road during heavy snowfall. I wanted to punch the smug cunt.

BIONIC

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #50593 on: May 18, 2023, 07:41:32 AM »
Remember when Pokemon Go dropped and literally every lazy fuck started to scout the neighbourhood.  :lol

An excuse for :jared ‘s of the world 

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #50594 on: May 18, 2023, 07:47:22 AM »
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #50595 on: May 18, 2023, 07:56:59 AM »
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Personal responsibility wouldn't be so difficult if everything else wasn't actively impairing us at every step of the way.

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Had a shite day yesterday so bought a pizza and a whole pack of biscuits. All demolished in one sitting. No shame

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #50596 on: May 18, 2023, 08:06:05 AM »
Remember when Pokemon Go dropped and literally every lazy fuck started to scout the neighbourhood.  :lol

seems mental that they never made a animal crossing GO so people can be a pretend gig economy worker paying off their tom nook debt in their time off from being an actual gig economy worker paying off their college debt.

benjipwns

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #50597 on: May 18, 2023, 08:37:24 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/people-are-too-tired-to-lead-healthier-lifestyles-uk-survey-finds.720337/
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This makes so much sense, when you also consider the crazy bills folks are paying these days, in combination with still low wages in the face of inflation.
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If it were that easy, we wouldn't be having the problems we're having on an increasingly larger scale. Maybe the fact that so many people struggle to "just be healthier" is due to there being broader hurdles that are difficult if not near improbable to navigate.
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That "wiggle room" is all that's ever talked about. All the burden is on us, it's always about "what the individual can do" while ignoring the big issues, like everything falling apart around us. Personal responsibility wouldn't be so difficult if everything else wasn't actively impairing us at every step of the way.

We're not invincible, we don't have infinite willpower, everything around us is trying to break us.
The only "problems we're having", "broader hurdles that are difficult if not near improbable to navigate", "big issues", "everything falling apart" and "everything else actively impairing us at every step of the way" are your own fucking dumbass self-oppressing selves. Nothing is "trying to break" you and you don't need to be "invincible" or "have infinite willpower" because all you need to do is stop demanding perfection in comparing reality to your imaginary narcissistic utopia as an excuse to never make any effort at all not even for yourself or your loved ones.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #50598 on: May 18, 2023, 08:56:40 AM »





"Being against self-defeatism is not progressive."

The guy wasn't talking about economic poverty or political oppression, he's talking about exercise - something anyone can do.  If you accept that outside forces are keeping you from exercising, then just lay down and die and give up already.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #50599 on: May 18, 2023, 09:07:56 AM »
From the MK1 thread

Boys club rhetoric

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #50600 on: May 18, 2023, 09:08:50 AM »
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"Being against self-defeatism is not progressive."

The guy wasn't talking about economic poverty or political oppression, he's talking about exercise - something anyone can do.  If you accept that outside forces are keeping you from exercising, then just lay down and die and give up already.

They just love the victim complex so much

benjipwns

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #50601 on: May 18, 2023, 09:47:23 AM »
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"Being against self-defeatism is not progressive."

The guy wasn't talking about economic poverty or political oppression, he's talking about exercise - something anyone can do.  If you accept that outside forces are keeping you from exercising, then just lay down and die and give up already.
But but but but how can I be expected to work to improve my mental and/or physical health when I live in a world better than all of human history? Why is the burden on me and not everyone else? :social

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #50602 on: May 18, 2023, 10:57:28 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/joe-scarborough-from-morning-joe-almost-outed-redacted-in-reference-to-teacher-jenna-barbee-showing-movie-strange-world-in-class-thoughts.720526/#post-105831412

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Boys...Club...Rhetoric???

From the MK1 thread

Boys club rhetoric

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Dang Shang Tsung is super hot.

Meanwhile someone was recently banned for making a "I can fix her" joke

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #50603 on: May 18, 2023, 11:02:50 AM »
I feel like finding time for a bit of exercise is probably easier than dismantling capitalism, white supremacy, or whatever else you feel has more control over your time than you do. I reckon being in good shape is also fairly useful if you’re in the middle of being genocided or hunted down by christofascist militias.

It’s a real shame that it’s frankly impossible to go for a 30 minute walk here and there. The cost of equipment to do jumping jacks, planks, push-ups and sit-ups is a real killer too :(

On the other hand, abdicating personal responsibility in favour of fealty to nebulous oppressive forces might well yield good results. Who really knows?

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #50604 on: May 18, 2023, 11:37:10 AM »
I feel like finding time for a bit of exercise is probably easier than dismantling capitalism, white supremacy, or whatever else you feel has more control over your time than you do. I reckon being in good shape is also fairly useful if you’re in the middle of being genocided or hunted down by christofascist militias.

It’s a real shame that it’s frankly impossible to go for a 30 minute walk here and there. The cost of equipment to do jumping jacks, planks, push-ups and sit-ups is a real killer too :(

On the other hand, abdicating personal responsibility in favour of fealty to nebulous oppressive forces might well yield good results. Who really knows?

I guess when you also factor in how tired they always are due to what they read from Joanne it makes perfect sense

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #50605 on: May 18, 2023, 11:59:22 AM »
I feel like finding time for a bit of exercise is probably easier than dismantling capitalism, white supremacy, or whatever else you feel has more control over your time than you do. I reckon being in good shape is also fairly useful if you’re in the middle of being genocided or hunted down by christofascist militias.

It’s a real shame that it’s frankly impossible to go for a 30 minute walk here and there. The cost of equipment to do jumping jacks, planks, push-ups and sit-ups is a real killer too :(

On the other hand, abdicating personal responsibility in favour of fealty to nebulous oppressive forces might well yield good results. Who really knows?

See, they love control… they HATE exertion. It’s why they are violently opposed to their own responsibilities and moral code. It’s why they push the onus of any moral or philosophical issue onto the other person.

“Educate yourself!”
“Do better!”
“Sit down and listen!”

Anything to save work they might have to, or even be obligated, to do.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #50606 on: May 18, 2023, 12:02:28 PM »

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Had a shite day yesterday so bought a pizza and a whole pack of biscuits. All demolished in one sitting. No shame


Propagandhim, yesterday - typing 'pizza' into the ResetERA search box:



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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #50607 on: May 18, 2023, 12:24:33 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/may-17-2023-ap-montana-becomes-1st-state-in-us-to-ban-tiktok-law-likely-to-be-challenged.720430/#post-105820633
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Propagandhim

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #50608 on: May 18, 2023, 12:53:34 PM »
I feel like finding time for a bit of exercise is probably easier than dismantling capitalism, white supremacy, or whatever else you feel has more control over your time than you do. I reckon being in good shape is also fairly useful if you’re in the middle of being genocided or hunted down by christofascist militias.

It’s a real shame that it’s frankly impossible to go for a 30 minute walk here and there. The cost of equipment to do jumping jacks, planks, push-ups and sit-ups is a real killer too :(

On the other hand, abdicating personal responsibility in favour of fealty to nebulous oppressive forces might well yield good results. Who really knows?

This is victim blaming and I knew you, of all people, would engage in it.  I thought thebore was a progressive place to talk about how modern culture has basically stripped us of free will and essentially is an open-air prison.  Wait...what's that?  Even people in prison exercise?  Here's the thing.  Unlike prisoners, we're exposed to the harshest elements of capitalist forces - we're at the staging ground of this battle against capital.  In a sense, prisoners are lucky and privileged to be insulated from these forces.  Especially brown bodies, who have been herded like sheep, manipulated by food desserts, and forced to go to participating Costco's for Miss Vickie's spicy dill pickle kettle cooked potato chips, which are an amazing deal at $3.49 per 1.2lb bag right now.   And with the Costco Premier Savers program, you get an extra $10 off every purchase at the Snack-Mart when you spend over $150.  So, please, don't lecture me, and please, literally do better in the future.   I'm tired.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #50609 on: May 18, 2023, 12:54:39 PM »
I'm glad we can finally talk about how fatphobic walkable cities are

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #50611 on: May 18, 2023, 01:31:06 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/mortal-kombat-1-trailer-editions-revealed-release-sept-19th-pre-order-for-shang-tsung-beta-access.720589/page-8#post-105845503

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Awesome trailer. Loved the art direction and the music. While I am a fan of hip-hop ( the positive kind, not the black genocide beast it’s become) I prefer this style of music for MK. And I don’t think this is a “racists won” situation. That really seems like a reach.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #50612 on: May 18, 2023, 01:33:54 PM »
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Am I supposed to feel good after exercise? I'm not sure my body actually produces these endorphins I've heard so much about. To an extent I enjoy exercise but I never feel an 'endorphin glow', or an 'exercise high' or whatever people bang on about.

I enjoy mountain biking but only really the downhill bit if I'm honest because that's the exciting part, slogging up hills is not fun. Running is fucking horrible from the second you step up from a walk, not a single part of that feels good. I really like badminton, the process of swishing my bat around is a lot of fun, but at the end I don't feel particularly different. Lifting weights is dull, up down, up down, breathe breathe, bored.

I get the same, if not a higher, level of enjoyment and sense of wellbeing from sitting on my sofa eating crisps and playing Dead Island 2.

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Electric Mountain Bike! Also, come and join us in the Cycling thread: https://www.resetera.com/threads/bicycle-era-ot-this-is-why.1136

Oh, and for what it's worth, I've never had the endorphin release from from exercise. It's fucking miserable, always.

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I wish. The sorts of ebike I want are all £5-6k plus which, unless there is a drastic uptick in my finances, I'll never be able to afford. I've only got something half decent at the moment (2016 YT Capra) because I got run over and used the personal injury payout. I will however check out the cycling thread, thanks.


"I don't like exercising because it requires effort."
"Get an electric bike with a motor so it requires less effort."
"The only one I want is too much money."

I'm telling you, capitalism is destroying us all.   This man cannot buy a motorcycle to exercise with.   Buying a regular bicycle is literal violence, so don't even bring that up.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #50613 on: May 18, 2023, 01:34:20 PM »
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It was primarily developed and imposed upon the world by white societies. And all the world very quickly tried to repeat the process, because people arguing about stuff on a computer games forum might have romantic views on what pre-industrial societies were like, but the people who lived in those societies were far less romantic about it.
You think the rest of the world tried to repeat the process because there was the belief at the time that there were absolutely no environmental or cultural downsides, that pre-industrial- or at the very least more communal and responsible environmental living- were so absolutely horrible that it was just the obvious choice of societal organization to implement?

Okay. Gonna go play TotK.

Nepenthes fucking staggering level of ignorance about, well, fucking everything continues to amaze.
There was literally an entire fucking movement of anti-industrialisation on a philosophical level precisely because of the social upheaval it introduced and environmental impact.

And yeah, people still preferred to, you know, routinely not die of starvation in the winter

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In philosophy and the history of ideas, Romanticism was seen by Isaiah Berlin as disrupting for over a century the classic Western traditions of rationality and the idea of moral absolutes and agreed values, leading "to something like the melting away of the very notion of objective truth",[39] and hence not only to nationalism, but also fascism and totalitarianism

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« Reply #50614 on: May 18, 2023, 01:43:03 PM »
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It was primarily developed and imposed upon the world by white societies. And all the world very quickly tried to repeat the process, because people arguing about stuff on a computer games forum might have romantic views on what pre-industrial societies were like, but the people who lived in those societies were far less romantic about it.
You think the rest of the world tried to repeat the process because there was the belief at the time that there were absolutely no environmental or cultural downsides, that pre-industrial- or at the very least more communal and responsible environmental living- were so absolutely horrible that it was just the obvious choice of societal organization to implement?

Okay. Gonna go play TotK.

Nepenthes fucking staggering level of ignorance about, well, fucking everything continues to amaze.
There was literally an entire fucking movement of anti-industrialisation on a philosophical level precisely because of the social upheaval it introduced and environmental impact.

And yeah, people still preferred to, you know, routinely not die of starvation in the winter

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In philosophy and the history of ideas, Romanticism was seen by Isaiah Berlin as disrupting for over a century the classic Western traditions of rationality and the idea of moral absolutes and agreed values, leading "to something like the melting away of the very notion of objective truth",[39] and hence not only to nationalism, but also fascism and totalitarianism

:teehee

So now we went from noble savage to infantalizing. Yes Nepenthe, Saudi Arabia would have totally rejected making money of their oil, if only they had known, IF ONLY THEY HAD KNOWN.

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« Reply #50615 on: May 18, 2023, 01:45:13 PM »
The "cultural downsides" being what?  McDonalds and Starbucks on every corner in certain places of America?  Does Nepenthe think that these places spring up out of nowhere?  There are places in Europe that Starbucks fail absolutely because the tastes, prices, and other preferences of the public don't allow for the store to thrive.  And the places they do well in, do so because the climate supports that kind of business. That's peoples wants and needs shaping the culture around them.   You can't force people to live, believe, and prefer things that personally align with you and shun the rest.  I fucking hate furries and Overwatch, why do you get to have those products that are a clear 'cultural downside'?  Nepenthe just wants the world to reflect every single desire and belief she has because she's so unhappy with herself and what she's been able to achieve on her own.  She's so unsatisfied with what she's able influence in her own life with her own competency, that the whole world has to change for her life to develop anything positive at all.

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...or at the very least more communal and responsible environmental living- were so absolutely horrible that [capitalism] it was just the obvious choice of societal organization to implement?

What is "communal living".  There are communities all over the place that you can live in, engage with, and contribute to.  Does she mean like, a government-authored system of property and labor-sharing where the government determines what the economy needs?
Bitch, you hate and distrust an entire race.  Why would you want to strip your freedom to put into the hands of people you don't trust?
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #50616 on: May 18, 2023, 02:04:18 PM »
i need to take a break because i'm literally literallying rn and its not ok bbl

GreatSageEqualOfHeaven

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #50617 on: May 18, 2023, 02:09:40 PM »
The "cultural downsides" being what?

well, essentially, the centre of peoples lives moved from the home to a workplace, because for pre industrial societies, they were the same fucking thing.
With the concept of industrialisation, you have the concept of static places that you don't own or live in, but that you travel to to do your work for payment.

But with that same concept, you then get the unintended concept of 'free time', or 'leisure' - because your whole life isn't just upkeeping your homestead anymore.

You have working hours and money, so you move to where the work is (a town or city).
You have a certain number of hours not working and have your accrued money, so you have the ability to do stuff just for you and spend your money on doing that.
And because so many other people are doing the same thing, it becomes viable for people to make money by selling leisure activities; so you see a rise in arts, and literature, and theatre, and pubs, and arcades, and museums, and holidays to places that aren't your home or your workplace. You get to marry someone that isn't your neighbours kids. You get to choose your clothes instead of being limited to what some random travelling salesman has or whatever your parents stitched together.

you get a fucking society.

GreatSageEqualOfHeaven

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #50618 on: May 18, 2023, 02:11:56 PM »
Won't someone please swap me a carrot for my Lucio X Cleopatra fanfic, my children are dying :stahp

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #50619 on: May 18, 2023, 02:22:05 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/marvel-comics-editorial-proudly-anounces-fallen-friend-the-death-of-redacted.719995/page-6#post-105854881
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Apparently the same editorial people/team(s) at Marvel that thought this was a good idea also tried persuading a writer to write in Mexican cliches because the writer was Mexican, and tried persuading another writer to falsely come out as a lesbian to boost sales:

https://twitter.com/TheVallyD/status/1658846826148053000?s=20

It's pretty clear now the kind of ship they're running there at Marvel editorials. Burn them to the ground and start over, bunch of garbage people.

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Looks like the floodgates are starting to open

Let's call it #Kamalagate, and I hope it brings actual change for once

It's time to get people fired (not cancelled) over a transparently temporary death in a comic book.
« Last Edit: May 18, 2023, 02:35:03 PM by Hap Shaughnessy »
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« Reply #50620 on: May 18, 2023, 02:33:31 PM »
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Maybe all this needs to be about is the disgustingly racist and sexist shit they just pulled with this story and how they're marketing it

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The issue is that they offed the most prominent Muslim hero in such an offhand and disrespectful way that it's still insulting anyway.

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Marvel officially markets a dead muslim teenager surrounded by white people as a hot new story you have to read!!! and youre like "people lets just be positive" lol

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they canceled her ongoing book so what the hell else are ms marvel fans supposed to do but be fucking pissed lol

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« Reply #50621 on: May 18, 2023, 02:43:31 PM »
I don't read comics or watch capeshit cos i have a slither of self respect, but don't they "kill" off characters all the time, at least that is my impression via cultural osmosis.
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« Reply #50622 on: May 18, 2023, 02:54:25 PM »
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ms marvel fans


her books barely clear 1.5k per issue, there is no sizeable Ms. Marvel fanbase (which is why she doesn't even have her own comicbook right now). Nobody even watched her show!

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #50623 on: May 18, 2023, 02:54:39 PM »
Gonna tell my wife the next time she wants me to exercise that I would love to, but capitalism is holding me back.

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« Reply #50624 on: May 18, 2023, 03:04:55 PM »
So does the character have any traits beyond “brown muslim girl”? You could call Daredevil “white Irish Catholic guy” or Magneto “[redacted] Jewish guy.” But nobody does because they have actual character to define them.

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« Reply #50625 on: May 18, 2023, 03:06:04 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/marvel-comics-editorial-proudly-anounces-fallen-friend-the-death-of-redacted.719995/page-6#post-105854881
Quote from: SkinnyIndonesian
Apparently the same editorial people/team(s) at Marvel that thought this was a good idea also tried persuading a writer to write in Mexican cliches because the writer was Mexican, and tried persuading another writer to falsely come out as a lesbian to boost sales:

https://twitter.com/TheVallyD/status/1658846826148053000?s=20

It's pretty clear now the kind of ship they're running there at Marvel editorials. Burn them to the ground and start over, bunch of garbage people.

Quote from: Fj0823
Looks like the floodgates are starting to open

Let's call it #Kamalagate, and I hope it brings actual change for once

It's time to get people fired (not cancelled) over a transparently temporary death in a comic book.

https://twitter.com/TheVallyD/status/1658838011184832516

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Let's call it #Kamalagate
So the accusation is that Marvel is pushing woke nonsense and they're starting their own ____gate over it, a comicsgate if you will... hmmm...
« Last Edit: May 18, 2023, 04:12:24 PM by HaughtyFrank »

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #50626 on: May 18, 2023, 03:06:10 PM »
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The issue is that they offed the most prominent Muslim hero in such an offhand and disrespectful way that it's still insulting anyway.

there is a much bigger and more famous muslim hero, but for some reason he doesnt get so many comic books

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« Reply #50627 on: May 18, 2023, 03:09:12 PM »
So does the character have any traits beyond “brown muslim girl”? You could call Daredevil “white Irish Catholic guy” or Magneto “[redacted] Jewish guy.” But nobody does because they have actual character to define them.

What got redacted??

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« Reply #50628 on: May 18, 2023, 03:12:39 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/marvel-comics-editorial-proudly-anounces-fallen-friend-the-death-of-redacted.719995/page-6#post-105854881
Quote from: SkinnyIndonesian
Apparently the same editorial people/team(s) at Marvel that thought this was a good idea also tried persuading a writer to write in Mexican cliches because the writer was Mexican, and tried persuading another writer to falsely come out as a lesbian to boost sales:

https://twitter.com/TheVallyD/status/1658846826148053000?s=20

It's pretty clear now the kind of ship they're running there at Marvel editorials. Burn them to the ground and start over, bunch of garbage people.

Quote from: Fj0823
Looks like the floodgates are starting to open

Let's call it #Kamalagate, and I hope it brings actual change for once

It's time to get people fired (not cancelled) over a transparently temporary death in a comic book.
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Let's call it #Kamalagate, and I hope it brings actual change for once
He really doesn't have a girlfriend with an abusive mom cuz like he could be there for her instead of going batshit insane over a fictional character :lol

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« Reply #50629 on: May 18, 2023, 03:19:50 PM »
What I think a lot of people fail to realize is that a lot of the countries that industrialized did so under threat by colonial powers. It's not like the colonial powers created cities and people just naturally moved there---homes and livelihoods were often destroyed to force native people into the cities where they could become the human sacrifice to the greed of capital.

And many of those that tried to try socialism or something non-capatalistic paid for that in blood.

And as far as this viewpoint is concerned, it is white and Eurocentric, not because people outside that sphere don't share any blame for our condition but because our perception of those ideas comes from authors primarily from that heritage.

I have no idea what the Chinese intellectual tradition or currently dogma says about such ideas and to presume we have any idea is foolish.

What? Yes it fucking was.
Same story throughout history.
People leave their parents in bumfuck, nowhere to seek fame and fortune in the big city.

Go visit a fucking farm someday and see how supercool it would be if that was literally your whole fucking life ambition. You cunts don't even want to move to the suburbs because you cant get a chopped cheese there.

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« Reply #50630 on: May 18, 2023, 03:32:03 PM »
So does the character have any traits beyond “brown muslim girl”? You could call Daredevil “white Irish Catholic guy” or Magneto “[redacted] Jewish guy.” But nobody does because they have actual character to define them.

What got redacted??

:existential

That’s between me, my lawyer, and Whoopi Goldberg.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #50631 on: May 18, 2023, 03:43:26 PM »




But seriously I still don't get it. What could possibly be more offensive than calling him Jewish?

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« Reply #50632 on: May 18, 2023, 04:07:05 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/marvel-comics-editorial-proudly-anounces-fallen-friend-the-death-of-redacted.719995/page-6#post-105854881
Quote from: SkinnyIndonesian
Apparently the same editorial people/team(s) at Marvel that thought this was a good idea also tried persuading a writer to write in Mexican cliches because the writer was Mexican, and tried persuading another writer to falsely come out as a lesbian to boost sales:

https://twitter.com/TheVallyD/status/1658846826148053000?s=20

It's pretty clear now the kind of ship they're running there at Marvel editorials. Burn them to the ground and start over, bunch of garbage people.

Quote from: Fj0823
Looks like the floodgates are starting to open

Let's call it #Kamalagate, and I hope it brings actual change for once

It's time to get people fired (not cancelled) over a transparently temporary death in a comic book.

Isn’t this shit proving comicgaters overall point? That Marvel comics chase progressive trends over writting quality?

Comicgaters were idiots that mostly didn’t read comics, but anyone with brain could see that Marvel progressive policies were fake as fuck.

Are RE dumb enough to not connect the dots? To realize that characters like Kamala and Iron Heart are those type of characters they push in a not organic way…

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« Reply #50633 on: May 18, 2023, 04:18:13 PM »
ironically ironheart's first run of comics was endearing and eve ewing at least tried to make a character with faults and inner struggles and a supporting cast that factors into her character growth, both things miles and kamala DO NOT have. eve ewing did all of that in only 12 issues too.

I know y'all don't care but it kind of annoys me when that character gets lumped into the "shit legacy characters" pile.  :fbm

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« Reply #50634 on: May 18, 2023, 04:23:39 PM »
Because Riri was pushed as the next Miles, like ultra hard. I don’t think anybody expected how well received Miles was going to be so they tried hard in the wrong direction (kill super hero, promote the shit of it, call fans racists if they don’t like it) to replicate him. Miss Marvel perceived popularity was helped by Tumblerinas, so always feel fake as fuck even if she had a genuine small fan base.

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« Reply #50635 on: May 18, 2023, 04:57:19 PM »
Can we please get back to the genocide? No one cares about this capeshit. :walkaway
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #50636 on: May 18, 2023, 05:15:27 PM »
What I think a lot of people fail to realize is that a lot of the countries that industrialized did so under threat by colonial powers. It's not like the colonial powers created cities and people just naturally moved there---homes and livelihoods were often destroyed to force native people into the cities where they could become the human sacrifice to the greed of capital.

And many of those that tried to try socialism or something non-capatalistic paid for that in blood.

And as far as this viewpoint is concerned, it is white and Eurocentric, not because people outside that sphere don't share any blame for our condition but because our perception of those ideas comes from authors primarily from that heritage.

I have no idea what the Chinese intellectual tradition or currently dogma says about such ideas and to presume we have any idea is foolish.

What? Yes it fucking was.
Same story throughout history.
People leave their parents in bumfuck, nowhere to seek fame and fortune in the big city.

Go visit a fucking farm someday and see how supercool it would be if that was literally your whole fucking life ambition. You cunts don't even want to move to the suburbs because you cant get a chopped cheese there.

It's just such a simplistic understanding of pre-modern economics.  Japan industrialized without colonial influence.  India and China accounted for about 50% of the world GDP before the 18th century with an agrarian base economy, but with significant amounts of manufacturing and global commerce.  Before communism, China had a fucking tribute system where conquered territories had to send a mandated amount of goods and finances to a central body.  They had global exports of manufactured goods, and the concept of private property in China still existed.  Pre-colonial india had a huge share of global exports in textiles, and maritime trade in the Indian Ocean was a large portion of the economy.  India had a much more strict caste system, too.  For all of this to function, the same issues of "wage slavery" or whatever she's saying, still existed without white colonialism.   It's true that British colonization changed India's economy to adhere to global markets in different and more efficient ways that can be considered 'modern global capitalism', but so what?  I'm struggling to understand how these pre-colonial non-white areas functioned in a more 'egalitarian' way?  What is her argument?


 
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« Reply #50637 on: May 18, 2023, 05:45:58 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/lords-of-the-fallen-gameplay-trailer.720598/post-105854515
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Well, it has a black person prominently featured front and centre in the cinematic, so it has one leg up on FromSoft.

Fromsoft has set gaming back 50 years

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« Reply #50638 on: May 18, 2023, 05:52:42 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/harrison-ford-brought-to-tears-as-indiana-jones-and-the-dial-of-destiny-gets-standing-ovation-at-cannes.720817/#post-105870109
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Just want to remind everyone that Ford condones child rape he  supports Polanski and delivered him his Oscar.    This shit to me is just as disturbing as Ezra and Cruise.  He always gets a free pass.
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« Reply #50639 on: May 18, 2023, 06:01:22 PM »
"brendan fraser brought to tears as his new film finds a supportive audience who cheer him on"

"hey y'all just a quick reminder that brendan condones child rape and is a nazi, he once said he's on friendly terms with chris evans, who is friends with harrison ford, who gave roman polanski his oscar. yeah...THAT polanski...needless to say massive side eye at fraser. anyway also I'm mortally depressed and thinking of leaving my polycule"
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