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« Reply #120 on: February 05, 2022, 10:52:01 AM »
eh digging up dirt to bring down celebs has been the bread and butter of the British press for God knows how long, so it can go on forever :trumps

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« Reply #121 on: February 05, 2022, 02:12:05 PM »
show business is still very much being in the belly of the beast and this is part of it.
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« Reply #123 on: February 05, 2022, 03:15:54 PM »
would they be asking about the united states human rights crisis if the olympics was here  ???
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« Reply #124 on: February 05, 2022, 03:23:47 PM »
Joe's friends are getting vocal. Just a matter of time before Alex Jones is going to bat for him.

https://twitter.com/TimJDillon/status/1490055351064043523

Fun fact, Alex was right again? The MSM and blue checks just repeat what he said in 2019 when he had a beef with Joe.

https://twitter.com/cultofdusty1/status/1095960021064654849
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« Reply #125 on: February 05, 2022, 03:30:49 PM »
The Alex v Rogan feud was awesome, Alex was mostly just mad that he was avoiding having him on the cast again and trying to get his attention, and then ended up going fucking mental because Joe said that Soros wasn't a nazi collaborator :lol



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« Reply #126 on: February 05, 2022, 03:32:45 PM »
I saw on twitter Occupy Democrats tweeting about this. lmao This is what Democrats do now? Protest podcasts? Imagine how embarrassing it must be to be a Democrat.

https://twitter.com/OccupyDemocrats/status/1489917545305964549

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« Reply #127 on: February 05, 2022, 03:54:21 PM »
Occupy Democrats is some weird astroturf thing that hops on whatever's trending on Twitter (similar in both regards to BrooklynDad_Defiant) and asks people to RT to virtue signal partisan and often nonsensical and contradictory statements. A couple months back they were tweeting out stuff about the need for prosecutor reform and ACAB and then the next week tweeting out stuff like Death Penalty for Rittenhouse and January 6th protesters!

To my own personal consternation a bunch of these so-called progressive idiots have been regularly tweeting to disappointingly large amounts of approval about how anyone who takes the Fifth is admitting they're guilty, which is a literal position of Donald Trump's:

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« Reply #129 on: February 05, 2022, 07:49:01 PM »
Joe Rogan is paid $100 million dollars by a giant corporation tho?

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« Reply #130 on: February 05, 2022, 09:22:35 PM »
While I'm sure that many in the corporate media dislike Joe Rogan, you can certainly just go on Twitter and see this, it seems a bit much to explain it as they see him as a "threat" (not in what Nintex posted but plenty of others like Glenn Greenwald have made this accusation) or because he's "not controlled" by it. Corporate media spends a lot of its time and energy attacking each other (though oddly not MSNBC and CNN) so it doesn't seem like Rogan would be protected if he was suddenly on corporate media. CNN spends a lot of its time complaining to its viewers about Tucker Carlson and a lot of Fox News programs fire right back at CNN/MSNBC programming.

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« Reply #131 on: February 05, 2022, 10:29:47 PM »
Joe Rogan is an idiot and the only people I know who listen to his show are complete idiots.

Joe and his listeners are the types of people who think that rules and laws are for other people to follow and not them.

The average Joe Rogan listener thinks its oppressive for the law to require you to wear a seatbelt in the car and to not allow you to smoke indoors in a public building or restaurant.

A good example of a listener is this guy I know who decided that after listening to Joe Rogan that in 2022, he would only eat the meat of animals that he killed himself. I mean, that's fine, its not difficult to do, but this is a guy who doesn't hunt, has no gun or bow, has no gun licence, does not fish, does not own a fishing rod. He did nothing in 2021 to change those facts and as far as I am aware, in 2022, he has just forgotten that he told everyone that he was planning this whole thing this year.
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« Reply #132 on: February 05, 2022, 10:32:09 PM »
Joe Rogan has fans across the political aisle. No one listens to Joe for Joe. We listen for the guests who often have amazing stories. I know people from the far right all the way to full on socialists that listen to Joe regularly. Lmao this entire thing has the entire political compass uniting against the corporate media and Do Nothing Dems. Even has fucking Jacobin defending Joe.

https://jacobinmag.com/2022/01/joe-rogan-podcast-covid-misinformation-cdc-media

Lmfao uniting the far right, center right, moderates, socialists AND communists against you in one swoop. Get fucked and burn in hell.

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« Reply #133 on: February 05, 2022, 11:36:06 PM »
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« Reply #134 on: February 06, 2022, 12:25:18 AM »
Joe Rogan is an idiot and the only people I know who listen to his show are complete idiots.

Joe and his listeners are the types of people who think that rules and laws are for other people to follow and not them.

The average Joe Rogan listener thinks its oppressive for the law to require you to wear a seatbelt in the car and to not allow you to smoke indoors in a public building or restaurant.

A good example of a listener is this guy I know who decided that after listening to Joe Rogan that in 2022, he would only eat the meat of animals that he killed himself. I mean, that's fine, its not difficult to do, but this is a guy who doesn't hunt, has no gun or bow, has no gun licence, does not fish, does not own a fishing rod. He did nothing in 2021 to change those facts and as far as I am aware, in 2022, he has just forgotten that he told everyone that he was planning this whole thing this year.

you say this as if every episode is all about questioning well-established scientific facts or laws

he's done so many episodes with so many random guests about so many topics that it's pretty closed-minded to pigeonhole all his content based on a couple modern hot button covid takes

I'm not a "joe rogan listener" but I've randomly clicked on a few over the years and I haven't been disappointed

sometimes it's a comedian and they're just bullshitting about the good old days at the comedy store

sometimes it's a controversial figure telling their story, or a philosopher philosophizing, sometimes it's shit but sometimes it's interesting and often joe just lets his guest talk and offer their perspective



I remember listening to the James Damore one, the guy fired from Google for allegedly being anti-diversity, and it was really interesting, he just told his side of the story

he clearly wasn't a normally social guy and wasn't used to being a public figure but joe was encouraging to him, just to talk and share his experiences, and there was nothing objectionable about it
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« Reply #135 on: February 06, 2022, 01:59:25 AM »
You can ALWAYS tell who has NEVER ACTUALLY LISTENED TO ROGAN.

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« Reply #136 on: February 06, 2022, 02:07:07 AM »
god do I not like all the rich crackers on twitter playing internet popo

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« Reply #137 on: February 06, 2022, 05:16:03 AM »
he's a fucking extreme-shoch show host on network turned "comedian" because of ________, and he gets guests because he turned the tables on _______ and knows about ____ and do what he wants, Now he's blackmailing spotify until _____ gets _____.  Like wow

Holy shit, who gives a fuck?

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« Reply #138 on: February 06, 2022, 06:43:26 AM »
Everyone who cares about free speech.

Joe Rogan is not the first, they've tried it with many comedians. Once Rogan falls, so does Chapelle, once Chapelle falls so does Jon Stewart.
Let's say the new norm becomes that the n-word can no longer be used in context. You lose most Tarantino movies and god knows how many rap songs.
Once that's done they will try to do the same with other "offensive" words, like cunt, asshole, fuck, male, female etc. .

One side is perfectly fine with such sweeping censorship. They've displayed it time and time again and they keep lowering the bar.
I support Whoopi going back on The View and James Gunn making his movies as much as I support Joe Rogan to interview whoever he wants about what he wants.
COVID was a thing he talks about because it's part of current events but as someone else already pointed out very little on his show is about COVID or vaccines.

I much rather have Whoopi going on the Joe Rogan Experience to get her take on more of history than censoring them both.
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« Reply #139 on: February 06, 2022, 07:08:01 AM »


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« Reply #140 on: February 06, 2022, 07:23:37 AM »
Everyone who cares about free speech.

Joe Rogan is not the first, they've tried it with many comedians. Once Rogan falls, so does Chapelle, once Chapelle falls so does Jon Stewart.
Let's say the new norm becomes that the n-word can no longer be used in context. You lose most Tarantino movies and god knows how many rap songs.
Once that's done they will try to do the same with other "offensive" words, like cunt, asshole, fuck, male, female etc. .

One side is perfectly fine with such sweeping censorship. They've displayed it time and time again and they keep lowering the bar.
I support Whoopi going back on The View and James Gunn making his movies as much as I support Joe Rogan to interview whoever he wants about what he wants.
COVID was a thing he talks about because it's part of current events but as someone else already pointed out very little on his show is about COVID or vaccines.

I much rather have Whoopi going on the Joe Rogan Experience to get her take on more of history than censoring them both.

imagine thinking someone protected by the Red, the Black, and the Green, is gonna fall because of pasty as white nationalist rogan

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« Reply #141 on: February 06, 2022, 10:43:28 AM »
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« Reply #142 on: February 06, 2022, 01:02:27 PM »
Joe Rogan has fans across the political aisle. No one listens to Joe for Joe. We listen for the guests who often have amazing stories. I know people from the far right all the way to full on socialists that listen to Joe regularly. Lmao this entire thing has the entire political compass uniting against the corporate media and Do Nothing Dems. Even has fucking Jacobin defending Joe.

https://jacobinmag.com/2022/01/joe-rogan-podcast-covid-misinformation-cdc-media

Lmfao uniting the far right, center right, moderates, socialists AND communists against you in one swoop. Get fucked and burn in hell.

That's a good article. I'm sick of antivaxxer misinformation but censoring this guy won't do shit, only add fuel to the antivaxxer fire - "OH THEY'RE CENSORING HIM FOR SPEAKING THE TRUTH!". And he'll end up on a different platform anyways, there's plenty "conservative friendly" platforms out there or other platforms who don't give a damn and will jump at the chance to host him for the revenue he'll bring in.

Neoliberalism, a growing distrust in institutions (which I'd argue started when "the experts" fucked around with mortgages and caused the economic crash of last decade), the working class vs professional class lifestyle bubbles, confusing mixed-messaging by the CDC/Fauci/WHO/etc, plenty of grifters taking advantage of the pandemic to sell "wellness" regimens or vitamins/supplements... have done more to cultivate the antivaxxer mentality than an MMA guy talking about ivermectin ever could.
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« Reply #143 on: February 06, 2022, 02:01:20 PM »
Everyone who cares about free speech.

Joe Rogan is not the first, they've tried it with many comedians. Once Rogan falls, so does Chapelle, once Chapelle falls so does Jon Stewart.
Let's say the new norm becomes that the n-word can no longer be used in context. You lose most Tarantino movies and god knows how many rap songs.
Once that's done they will try to do the same with other "offensive" words, like cunt, asshole, fuck, male, female etc. .

One side is perfectly fine with such sweeping censorship. They've displayed it time and time again and they keep lowering the bar.
I support Whoopi going back on The View and James Gunn making his movies as much as I support Joe Rogan to interview whoever he wants about what he wants.
COVID was a thing he talks about because it's part of current events but as someone else already pointed out very little on his show is about COVID or vaccines.

I much rather have Whoopi going on the Joe Rogan Experience to get her take on more of history than censoring them both.
Are you saying that boycotts should be censored?

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« Reply #144 on: February 06, 2022, 03:21:01 PM »
https://twitter.com/Sulliview/status/1490301540262985728

Rogan’s non-apology made me furious. Probably because I’ve been spending a lot of time this week thinking about Miguel Rodriguez, a former colleague of mine, who died of covid last week.

Miggy, as everyone called him, was only 47 — a beloved and well-respected reporter at the Buffalo News, where he covered high school sports. As one News colleague wrote this week, he was a ubiquitous community presence, with a “booming laugh that would fill a room — even when that room was a high school gymnasium.”

He was overweight and asthmatic; in other words, very much at risk. And he was unvaccinated.

I don’t know for sure whether getting vaccination and booster shots would have saved Miggy’s life. And I have no idea whether he had ever listened to Joe Rogan’s podcast, or what his precise reasons were for not being vaccinated.

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One thing that requires no imagination is that Miguel’s funeral is Tuesday morning. His younger sister misses him, her father told me, and doesn’t yet realize that her big brother is never coming back.
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« Reply #145 on: February 06, 2022, 03:22:25 PM »
twitter.com/donwinslow/status/1489741351935627266
https://twitter.com/wokal_distance/status/1490141884546576384

why does this keep happening :doge

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« Reply #146 on: February 06, 2022, 04:28:20 PM »
Pretty sure the guy using that sort of language in the book isn't supposed to be a hero.

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« Reply #147 on: February 06, 2022, 04:37:58 PM »
Pretty sure the guy using that sort of language in the book isn't supposed to be a hero.
Intent doesn't matter. Stop defending and excusing white supremacy.

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« Reply #148 on: February 06, 2022, 04:38:43 PM »
The stories in those books are basically all racist "white people writing minority characters" slang  :doge :dead
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« Reply #149 on: February 06, 2022, 05:29:33 PM »
Pretty sure the guy using that sort of language in the book isn't supposed to be a hero.
https://twitter.com/DavidDTSS/status/1489993973439647746
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« Reply #150 on: February 06, 2022, 05:36:53 PM »

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« Reply #151 on: February 06, 2022, 06:04:20 PM »
Pretty sure the guy using that sort of language in the book isn't supposed to be a hero.

every single time joe said it he was reading a passage from that book and just quoting the guy
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« Reply #152 on: February 06, 2022, 07:10:30 PM »

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« Reply #153 on: February 06, 2022, 07:24:55 PM »
Has there ever not been a culture war happening? I mean in history?

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« Reply #154 on: February 06, 2022, 08:11:19 PM »
https://twitter.com/Sulliview/status/1490301540262985728

Rogan’s non-apology made me furious. Probably because I’ve been spending a lot of time this week thinking about Miguel Rodriguez, a former colleague of mine, who died of covid last week.

Miggy, as everyone called him, was only 47 — a beloved and well-respected reporter at the Buffalo News, where he covered high school sports. As one News colleague wrote this week, he was a ubiquitous community presence, with a “booming laugh that would fill a room — even when that room was a high school gymnasium.”

He was overweight and asthmatic; in other words, very much at risk. And he was unvaccinated.

I don’t know for sure whether getting vaccination and booster shots would have saved Miggy’s life. And I have no idea whether he had ever listened to Joe Rogan’s podcast, or what his precise reasons were for not being vaccinated.

...

One thing that requires no imagination is that Miguel’s funeral is Tuesday morning. His younger sister misses him, her father told me, and doesn’t yet realize that her big brother is never coming back.
:dead

What a fucking bitch. Don't use your "friend's" death to go all  :social :social2 :ego
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« Reply #155 on: February 06, 2022, 08:38:08 PM »
"I don't know if he listened to Joe Rogan's podcast"

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« Reply #157 on: February 07, 2022, 12:43:27 PM »


Portnoy talked to the ringleaders of the cancel mob. It got real awkward once he uncovered they used the n-word.

They say Dave lied and then he name drops the fiancee of one of these clowns.

https://twitter.com/bscomedian/status/1490415478182854657

Rumble Video has offered Joe $100 million
https://twitter.com/rumblevideo/status/1490718158449172481


This really is the Stalingrad of the Culture war. The cancel mob has entered the city, they've been unable to capture it and now they're trapped and being encircled until they are ultimately destroyed.

https://twitter.com/TimJDillon/status/1490750673436266497
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« Reply #158 on: February 07, 2022, 01:51:17 PM »
on what planet is Russell Brand a right winger?

last I checked he was a massive Jeremy Corbyn guy :girlaff

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« Reply #159 on: February 07, 2022, 01:53:31 PM »
he's done 1960 podcasts and this list accounts for 160

and maybe if reality has a left leaning bias, entertaining trainwrecks have a right leaning bias? maybe leftness correlates with sterile, joyless moralism that doesn't have anything worthwhile to say on a podcast? I mean look at his "left wing" guests, they're all either comedians or interesting people
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« Reply #160 on: February 07, 2022, 02:20:25 PM »
on what planet is Russell Brand a right winger?

last I checked he was a massive Jeremy Corbyn guy :girlaff

http://www.thewrap.com/russell-brand-right-wing-conspiracy-videos-reactions/

With someone like Brand it's hard to tell if it's drug related brain damage or if he simply felt like his fame was waning and wanted to see his name in the news. Covid broke a lot of people

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« Reply #161 on: February 07, 2022, 02:29:46 PM »
on what planet is Russell Brand a right winger?

last I checked he was a massive Jeremy Corbyn guy :girlaff
Russell Brand is a massive fuckwit, but he's certainly no right wing fuckwit.
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« Reply #162 on: February 07, 2022, 02:52:34 PM »
on what planet is Russell Brand a right winger?

last I checked he was a massive Jeremy Corbyn guy :girlaff

http://www.thewrap.com/russell-brand-right-wing-conspiracy-videos-reactions/

With someone like Brand it's hard to tell if it's drug related brain damage or if he simply felt like his fame was waning and wanted to see his name in the news. Covid broke a lot of people

enjoying a good conspiracy or two isn't an exclusive right wing thing tbh

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« Reply #164 on: February 07, 2022, 03:01:23 PM »
Destroy the cancel people and embarrass them. We have to make sure they lose.

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« Reply #165 on: February 07, 2022, 03:11:46 PM »
Cancelling a canceller leaves the whole world cancelled

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« Reply #166 on: February 07, 2022, 04:02:58 PM »




More support for Joe and explainers of what's really going on.
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« Reply #167 on: February 07, 2022, 04:11:04 PM »
on what planet is Russell Brand a right winger?

last I checked he was a massive Jeremy Corbyn guy :girlaff

http://www.thewrap.com/russell-brand-right-wing-conspiracy-videos-reactions/

With someone like Brand it's hard to tell if it's drug related brain damage or if he simply felt like his fame was waning and wanted to see his name in the news. Covid broke a lot of people

brand has always been an insufferable prick

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« Reply #168 on: February 07, 2022, 04:13:01 PM »
TBF I bet krystal and saager are up there with Jimmy Dore and co wanking themselves silly hoping Rogan leaves Spotify and goes to/sets up a YouTube alternative :trumps

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« Reply #169 on: February 07, 2022, 04:31:41 PM »
Can someone clarify something for me.

Ive been boycotting Starbucks since they declared was on Christmas but does that make me part of the cancel culture mob?
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« Reply #170 on: February 07, 2022, 05:06:14 PM »
TBF I bet krystal and saager are up there with Jimmy Dore and co wanking themselves silly hoping Rogan leaves Spotify and goes to/sets up a YouTube alternative :trumps


That's more what Jorp and friends are thinking about, Rogan and Peter Thiel teaming up to create a social media channel funded by Elon Musk.  :doge
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« Reply #171 on: February 07, 2022, 05:45:49 PM »
Joe Rogan sub:

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You absolutely do not have to agree with Joe here but if your sole purpose for participating is to “cancel” Joe, we’d ask that you find somewhere else to do it. r/joerogan is not your soapbox.

I guess some speech is freer than other
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« Reply #172 on: February 08, 2022, 11:01:49 AM »
https://twitter.com/TimJDillon/status/1490750673436266497
Roseanne Barr, Tulsi Gabbard, Sam Harris, Steven Pinker, Michael Shermer, the Weinstein morons and Elon Musk are apparently "right-wing" now.

This reply to that guy seems appropriate:




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« Reply #177 on: February 08, 2022, 03:28:41 PM »
I don't think Rogan is a racist, however he was much too comfortable with dropping n bombs and any opportunity he could, he would. I believe it was part of his 90s internet message board mindset and personality and very clearly enjoying saying it and making his guests uncomfortable with it. I think Rogan is mostly a pretty decent guy, but he's LONG been completely out of touch with normal humans and life well before he even started the podcast. He's not an idiot, but he is ignorant about a lot of things, and he tailors much of his questions and responses to the type of guest he has and their viewpoints on things. At some point (around 2016) he definitely started leaning into culture wars guests and cultivating the contrarian fanbase. This dude and many of the other comedians who blew up because of their association with him have been complaining about cancel culture shit for years, about how comedians can't say anything anymore. Meanwhile they're all having the biggest runs of their careers, Joe got a $100m contract from Spotify for the podcast and they stick with him no matter what crazy shit and heat he brings on them.

He is dangerous in the sense that he has a massive audience and a decent chunk of that audience are full blown chuds who take everything at face value, and he certainly gives that platform to some very odious people, then has them back multiple times out of his contrarian streak. And because controversy creates cash. He's not Alex Jones, but he does give Alex Jones a platform after everyone else said fuck this guy. He's not the most dangerous guy in the world, nor is he the last bastion of free speech.

All in all, I wish the world could go back to a time where Joe Rogan was never mentioned outside of comedy shows and UFC shows because god damn am I sick of hearing about him or seeing his name in any context.

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« Reply #178 on: February 08, 2022, 03:32:41 PM »
how much of rogan's audience voted for bernie because rogan told them to?  :thinking


rogan was paying thousands for a T1 line back in the news radio days so he could gayme it up. he's probably been a net junkie since back then too.
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« Reply #179 on: February 08, 2022, 03:34:01 PM »
Prob a solid chunk