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[Potato]

I hate how these interviewers keep deciding to use movie press tours to ask really stupid questions in an attempt to manufacture stories instead of just promoting the films like they're meant to.

What is journalism?

[nudemacusers]

Who hates journalists more, trump or resetera? 🤔 👀

[OnlyRegret]

Who hates journalists more, trump or resetera? 🤔 👀

more than just them

https://twitter.com/FINALLEVEL/status/1202717822859784192

[benjipwns]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/daisy-ridley-denies-that-her-privilege-made-her-more-confident-to-navigate-her-celebrity-compares-her-experience-to-co-star-john-boyega.157846/post-27165707

that freaking "not having privilege" bit

is so freaking insidious, she knew what she was doing.

Notice how the “gotcha” question you’ve quoted isn’t in quotes? We don’t know exactly what the question was in order to contextualize the answer properly, except for what was being fed to us by the author in order to get the desired reaction from readers like yourself.

Except these interviews are literally set up to promote the movie, not to have in depth interview on the actor/director/writer's life. Those can also exist, and at those times it's appropriate to ask those types of questions. Alternatively, journalists can research a story, find solid sources, and write an article without the subject's input. It's their job to "act as a PR arm for a billion dollar company" because they're literally paid to do these puff interviews.

Tossing out these bait questions to people who are on a press tour, and are likely tired of doing hours and hours of contractually-obligated promotion for their new movie, has nothing to do with actual journalism. It's all an attempt to manufacture something that can generate hits and create some sort of controversy. It's true with this, it was true of the "Martin Scorsese's thoughts on the MCU" debacle, and it's true just about every time these types of things come up. This is literally "Gotcha Journalism".

it's about ethics in Disney promotion

[ShutUp]

Scorsese still living rent free in their heads 

[ShutUp]

  an actual journalist actually asking good questions

  Kotaku mentioning Gamergate for the millionth time as we near the year of our lord 2020

[Boredfrom]

What I don't get is why Cerium doesn't just open the floodgates and approve every pending application for Ree. Like fuck trying to maintain a community you have no control over anyway. Just enjoy the chaos and makemmoney off of malware ads that you also pretend you have control of.

Because he still thinks the forum is salvageable and he is probably scared that the woke backlash will affect him IRL given his social circle.

[Joe Molotov]

You fucking privileged assholes. The planet is on the brink and millions of people around the world are already suffering and dying due to climate change effects and you have the fucking gall to march up in an informational thread and whine about it because we're not thinking positive thoughts. Pathetic.

Disingenuous argumentation in a MCU related thread.

[El Babua]

wrong thread lol

[Potato]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/daisy-ridley-denies-that-her-privilege-made-her-more-confident-to-navigate-her-celebrity-compares-her-experience-to-co-star-john-boyega.157846/post-27165707

Except these interviews are literally set up to promote the movie, not to have in depth interview on the actor/director/writer's life. Those can also exist, and at those times it's appropriate to ask those types of questions. Alternatively, journalists can research a story, find solid sources, and write an article without the subject's input. It's their job to "act as a PR arm for a billion dollar company" because they're literally paid to do these puff interviews.

Tossing out these bait questions to people who are on a press tour, and are likely tired of doing hours and hours of contractually-obligated promotion for their new movie, has nothing to do with actual journalism. It's all an attempt to manufacture something that can generate hits and create some sort of controversy. It's true with this, it was true of the "Martin Scorsese's thoughts on the MCU" debacle, and it's true just about every time these types of things come up. This is literally "Gotcha Journalism".

it's about ethics in Disney promotion

Oh my fucking God. What the fuck is wrong with these people?

If a film is being promoted on its "woke" credentials and the film's stars are being promoted as being woke, then questions about their interpretation of that are definitely on the table (not that any questions should ever be off the table).

Also, the journalists are not paid to do PR for anyone. They are there to ask relevant questions and report. Fuck me dead...

[Transhuman]

It's about ethics in press junkets

Edit: dammit benji

[ldcommando (notthegafone)]

the op of the daisy thread tapped the fuck out and requested a lock. The mouse probably paid him a visit.

[Bore Expert]

Fisty Butts is tearing shit up 

[Pissy F Benny]

I’m glad Daisy Ridley is getting DRAGGED in the press, cheebos avi has given me an irrational distaste for her 

[BisMarckie]

I was surprised at what I was reading and had to report a bunch of people.

[jorma]

I was surprised at what I was reading and had to report a bunch of people.

good, it's very important to not let people think they can get away with sexist (claiming she is priviliged) and bigoted (claiming she isn't priviliged) shit just because the topic was locked!

[HaughtyFrank]

I’m glad Daisy Ridley is getting DRAGGED in the press, cheebos avi has given me an irrational distaste for her 

When she's not getting used as avatar she can be a real cutie

[ldcommando (notthegafone)]

Flat as a board but very good looking

[Nintex]

Ree are dumb dumbs again. Daisy is British, the Guardian is British.
Being privileged there has a different meaning than "White Privilege".

It's an ongoing discussion about how people who graduate from certain universities get most of the jobs in government and corporations and you can only get on those universities if you're well connected and wealthy.
There's a still a higher class in general even though the class system doesn't exist on paper anymore. But being privileged in the UK goes way beyond just the narrow definition of the color of your skin or your gender.

[Transhuman]

Nah the definition is the same. Resetera uses accusations of privaledge to demean and devalue people, so they were offended that a journalist would "go after" someone that they like.

[benjipwns]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/year-end-policy-updates-and-community-affairs.157629/post-27169793

How about you actually do something when people troll in mental health threads? You guys couldn't give a shit and don't even give out warnings.

Then maybe we should have a thread for that, because there is no place for it currently. Make that a policy. There are like 20 people in that thread not understanding the ban, are you aware of that?

Then that's their problem. The closing post makes it abundantly clear why he was banned. It's a good ban. Just because you think something racist is funny doesn't mean it's not, in fact, racist. Do you not see in that closing post where they said it made members of Asian-era uncomfortable? Jesus, get a grip. You wanting to feel ok for finding a racist gag funny does not override their right to feel safe here.

Friends is also a popular show and yet it still has problematic scenes that would seem dated at best today if not actually bigoted. The popularity of a show should not prevent people from examining the issues it has. As dreams stated, the reason for the ban is clearly stated in the lock message. He was not banned for simply liking a show, but rather his response to a particular scene. We're fully aware of your argument, but that doesn't change the fact that sometimes jokes can perpetuate racist stereotypes. Would you find it too far for a black member to feel offended at white users laughing at a scene where Michael is in blackface, and they think it's hilarious that he's "unfiltered"? Not to mention that there is something to be said about how the show does not truly hold Michael accountable for his actions, and even sometimes depicts him as someone to sympathise with.

There is a history with these kinds of dehumanising racist depictions that often makes people of colour extremely uncomfortable. The post was reported and discussed by various Asian people in the community and team. We will continue to discuss it with Asian members of the team during the ban review process.

Even if you disagree with the ban, please understand that staging a protest about it in this thread of all places is highly inappropriate and insensitive. If you wish to continue discussing it, you're welcome to reach out to a Mod Captain.

There's definitely a balancing act involved. If the team is too large, it can be difficult to manage, and there are more chances of slip ups and mistakes as a result. But on the other hand, yes, not enough hands and things can get very taxing, especially over time.

We are actually looking for new members of the team at the moment. Both for perspective and also to help out with activity. We also take whether a new candidate could help with certain timezones into account at times. We've been actively discussing new candidates, so you should hopefully see some new faces on the team in the coming weeks. ^^

Sometimes, though, it isn't so much how many people we have, but certain periods of the year can get very busy, and people also have real life commitments or emergencies that pop up. We also advise everyone on the team to prioritise self care and take breaks when needed. That can be difficult at times when you can see the team and community really needs you, though. But we still try our best to strike a balance.

Also wanted to say, thank you for your concern for the team. I really appreciate it. Love and respect. <3

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

Nobody is ever going to PM a mod captain about their concerns ever again, because that doesn't do shit.

What provably DOES do shit is keep publically dragging era mods across multiple topics.
You get unbanned AND an invite to a secret fucking discord summit! You might even get the dumbass mod that banned you thrown under a bus too! Maybe not even the actual mod, just a guy who was in the vicinity and sorta matched the description!

And yeah, if you want to make comparisons to "are you allowed to find blackface funny?";
https://www.resetera.com/threads/sarah-silverman-says-she-was-fired-from-a-movie-for-an-old-blackface-sketch.134496/post-23550710
https://www.resetera.com/threads/sarah-silverman-says-she-was-fired-from-a-movie-for-an-old-blackface-sketch.134496/post-23551023

there's 2 fucking mods defending laughing at blackface, in the exact same fucking context as laughing at Michael Scott doing 'Ping'.

[paprikastaude]

https://twitter.com/ReeraTakes/status/1203634707323326464

porn?? jokes??!??

[samir]

It's almost as if trolls have infiltrated the moderator ranks.

[benjipwns]

Yall probably gotta start banning people for derailing threads with side discussions about the harsher moderation because it's happening in multiple threads already. Shit is annoying.

[HaughtyFrank]

Yall probably gotta start banning people for derailing threads with side discussions about the harsher moderation because it's happening in multiple threads already. Shit is annoying.

Harsher moderation to curb complaints about harsher moderation 

[ldcommando (notthegafone)]

Yall probably gotta start banning people for derailing threads with side discussions about the harsher moderation because it's happening in multiple threads already. Shit is annoying.

Good days ahead

[Hermit]

Moderation is off the rails and I fucking love it. Seeing all of these random bans and people speaking up is delicious.

This thread will go well: https://www.resetera.com/threads/gaming-addiction-and-enthusiast-forums-or-are-we-all-a-bunch-of-enablers.157899/

[Mr Gilhaney]

Flat as a board but very good looking

dfc 

[james]

We've gone ahead and removed SurrenderDorothy's ban. We'd like to apologize for the confusion surrounding the ban. 

Although "ghoul" has been used against politicians before, the context changes when it's used specifically against a woman (especially an older woman.) The reason for this is because could be considered an attack on her looks. However, after further deliberation and given the ambiguity of how the term has been used, we've opted to lift the ban. We ask that people be more aware of how their rhetoric comes across in the future. 

In regards to this thread, however, the conversation has been derailed due to the discussion of the ban. Therefore, we're going to go ahead and lock this thread now

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https://www.resetera.com/threads/hillary-clinton-visits-the-howard-stern-show-for-her-first-interview.157162/page-14#post-27172804

[nudemacusers]

Gonna need the mods to go back and ban those using “ghoul” for ageism.

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

A ghoul is a mythical creature that keeps itself alive by feeding off of the dead.
You can see how that has been used a political analogy for - for example - private equity insurance healthcare systems.

There is nothing about it suggesting misogyny or to do with female appearance, or in fact anything female at all, so good fucking job era moderation braintrust that even though you caved on your bullshit ban you still have to drop in a "but I'm still not wrong" at the end, even though you clearly fucking were, clearly fucking are, and will clearly fucking continue to be.

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

also

at new mod policy of fucking up, getting called on their fuck up, reversing the fuck up, then hurriedly shutting down a still active topic as quickly as possible to bury the fuck up

[ldcommando (notthegafone)]

Fucking dumbasses. If you're going to ban people for stupid shit like that at least stick to your guns. Looks very obvious that the users can pressure the mods.

[HaughtyFrank]

It's great how the new rules are instantly blowing up in their faces but they'll probably stick to them to not upset the alphabet gang. In the Billy Dee Williams thread there wasn't even as much as an acknowledgement besides quietly unbanning one guy

[benjipwns]

A tiny little bit of research would have gone a long way before making this thread OP. Kinda risking whipping up a frenzy over nothing maybe don’t you think?

RISKING A FRENZY

[ldcommando (notthegafone)]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/daisy-ridley-denies-that-her-privilege-made-her-more-confident-to-navigate-her-celebrity-compares-her-experience-to-co-star-john-boyega.157846/page-7#post-27173795

After reviewing feedback, we're reopening this thread - this is a news article, not a personal thread.

And we're back

[Nintex]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/daisy-ridley-denies-that-her-privilege-made-her-more-confident-to-navigate-her-celebrity-compares-her-experience-to-co-star-john-boyega.157846/page-7#post-27173795

After reviewing feedback, we're reopening this thread - this is a news article, not a personal thread.

And we're back

The Mouse called

[ldcommando (notthegafone)]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/daisy-ridley-denies-that-her-privilege-made-her-more-confident-to-navigate-her-celebrity-compares-her-experience-to-co-star-john-boyega.157846/page-7#post-27173795

After reviewing feedback, we're reopening this thread - this is a news article, not a personal thread.

And we're back

The Mouse called

OP is already in Mexico

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

One of the reasons era can't be 'a safe space' is

too many people are that second poster mashing the report button because they just don't fucking understand the point someone is making

[Coffee Dog]

So many reversed bans. the enforcers are at the mercy of the enforced. Just threadshit or have a struggle session when things don't go your way and it'll all be alright.

[Propagandhim]

I don't feel safe with all these people disrespecting Hillary Rodham Clinton

[Lonewulfeus]

I don't feel safe with all these people disrespecting Hillary Rodham Clinton

Just think about how Bernard’s Brothers must feel

[Propagandhim]

I don't feel safe with all these people disrespecting Hillary Rodham Clinton

Just think about how Bernard’s Brothers must feel

Fuck that ghoul

[Lonewulfeus]

I don't feel safe with all these people disrespecting Hillary Rodham Clinton

Just think about how Bernard’s Brothers must feel

Fuck that ghoul

 

[Lonewulfeus]

No I already self-bump my threads enough. When someone else is the OP I can hecta-post and not feel guilty.

No stolen valour, justice for the one true OP kristoffer

Shosta defense force is still active on era, maybe he’s alive after all!

[james]

I don't feel safe with all these people disrespecting Hillary Rodham Clinton

Poor Glen every day is a nightmare for him

[Nintex]

Like Palpatine she's still lurking and scheming the shadows 

[clothedmacuser]

 

Mods have no authority anymore.


Why waste my time complaining here when if I complain on Era I will get rewarded?

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

This Daisy Ridley thread is fucking glorious, as the performatively woke reach the limits of what they'll concede versus defending STAR WARS GURL from any and all criticism

[BisMarckie]

I can't stand this! Again and again I'm insulted! Can you make an arguement without going into condescension! What the fuck did I do to you for you to go "Yes, this person deserves to be shat on! This person who has lost so much in the last month and has sucidal thoughts need to be pushed more!" What kind of joy are you getting out of treating me so shittily!?!

spoiler (click to show/hide)

https://www.resetera.com/threads/biden-vote-for-me-but-stay-a-republican-because-we-need-a-republican-party.157928/post-27183186

[close]

[BisMarckie]

I'm sorry, they're right. I do desrve to be sneered at. I tdo deserve to be mocked at. I'm useless. I deserve to lose my job. I deserve nothing but punishment because I'm shit because I have a different opinion on the internet. It's all my fault. I should just end it right now. It's clear that people here hate me for even existing. That I'm to shitty to even exist. Why bother fighting it anymore?

[Nintex]

Trump walking away from impeachment is going to kill half that message board 

[Lonewulfeus]

I'm sorry, they're right. I do desrve to be sneered at. I tdo deserve to be mocked at. I'm useless. I deserve to lose my job. I deserve nothing but punishment because I'm shit because I have a different opinion on the internet. It's all my fault. I should just end it right now. It's clear that people here hate me for even existing. That I'm to shitty to even exist. Why bother fighting it anymore?

And you’re a White Sox fan 

[BisMarckie]

Signing Marcell Ozuna tomorrow baybee   


And got cucked by Zach Wheeler and the Phillies

[Lonewulfeus]

Signing Marcell Ozuna tomorrow baybee   


And got made into a giant dad by Zach Wheeler and the Phillies

Pretty sure the Phillies overpaid for wheeler anyway.  He’s gotta be healthy and dominant for atleast 4 years for that contract to be worth it, and having watched wheeler since 2014 I just don’t see that happening.

[Leadbelly]

RIGHT OF STAFF TO SAY HATEFUL THINGS IN PRIVATE

Yeah. This can not be tolerated. We must find where they live and have monitoring devices installed in their home. Then when they think of saying hateful things they will know they are being watched.

[BisMarckie]

Pretty sure the Phillies overpaid for wheeler anyway.  He’s gotta be healthy and dominant for atleast 4 years for that contract to be worth it, and having watched wheeler since 2014 I just don’t see that happening.

But still, the FA market for pitchers is pretty barren. The White Sox are not going to pony up for Strasburg or Cole (must be nice to have ownership that isn't cheap) and Ryu and Keuchel scare me in the AL.
Can't wait for the front office to spin signing broken down Alex Wood.

[Boredfrom]

Trump walking away from impeachment is going to kill half that message board 

I’m pretty sure they are well aware the Senate is unlikely to convict.

I mean they have to be right m?

Pretty sure they are. I think this is just Nintex just being dumb or baiting.

[Lonewulfeus]

Pretty sure the Phillies overpaid for wheeler anyway.  He’s gotta be healthy and dominant for atleast 4 years for that contract to be worth it, and having watched wheeler since 2014 I just don’t see that happening.

But still, the FA market for pitchers is pretty barren. The White Sox are not going to pony up for Strasburg or Cole (must be nice to have ownership that isn't cheap) and Ryu and Keuchel scare me in the AL.
Can't wait for the front office to spin signing broken down Alex Wood.

Mets are targeting Porcello on a one year deal, that’s gonna be our big FA signing.  But, the Wilpons are out of money and selling an 80% stake in the Mets to a dude worth 9 billion so the team might actually spend like the major market team it is in the near future