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BisMarckie

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Re: DOJ |OT| SUMMIT NOW SUMMIT NOW
« Reply #4920 on: December 06, 2019, 08:06:57 PM »
I think the ad summit takes place after the next era feedback weekend.

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Re: DOJ |OT| SUMMIT NOW SUMMIT NOW
« Reply #4921 on: December 06, 2019, 08:07:14 PM »
It was just a UPS truck, just wait it out lmao. He sure wasn't going anywhere fast and it isn't like you were averting a potential terrorist attack that there was a great urgency.
Could've popped the 2 buggers later cause they sure weren't going Houdini in that retrofitted ice cream mobile.

Averon

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Re: DOJ |OT| SUMMIT NOW SUMMIT NOW
« Reply #4922 on: December 06, 2019, 08:07:27 PM »
Basically what they are saying is if you are not part of the marginalized group the thread is about, stay out or eat a ban.

LGBT threads for LGBT members only
Threads about black people are for black people only, BCT members in particular.
A thread about women? Men stay the fuck out!

Reee is actually advocating becoming more segregated, ironically enough  :lol


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Re: DOJ |OT| SUMMIT NOW SUMMIT NOW
« Reply #4923 on: December 06, 2019, 08:09:23 PM »
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Please consider having a community wide news thread guide to standardize sourcing and quoting!! I'd be willing to work for something like that.

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thisismyusername

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Re: DOJ |OT| SUMMIT NOW SUMMIT NOW
« Reply #4924 on: December 06, 2019, 08:10:38 PM »
It was just a UPS truck, just wait it out lmao. He sure wasn't going anywhere fast and it isn't like you were averting a potential terrorist attack that there was a great urgency.
Could've popped the 2 buggers later cause they sure weren't going Houdini in that retrofitted ice cream mobile.

The truck even has GPS locators on it. There was no need to take the fight to the intersection. The kid could still be alive if they actually waited it out.

Filler and Mac probably could explain better but I highly doubt Military shootouts in urban warzone areas are as badly done as this.

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Re: DOJ |OT| SUMMIT NOW SUMMIT NOW
« Reply #4925 on: December 06, 2019, 08:13:34 PM »
It was just a UPS truck, just wait it out lmao. He sure wasn't going anywhere fast and it isn't like you were averting a potential terrorist attack that there was a great urgency.
Could've popped the 2 buggers later cause they sure weren't going Houdini in that retrofitted ice cream mobile.

The truck even has GPS locators on it. There was no need to take the fight to the intersection. The kid could still be alive if they actually waited it out.

Filler and Mac probably could explain better but I highly doubt Military shootouts in urban warzone areas are as badly done as this.

I can't believe you advocated listening to Filler on anything

thisismyusername

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Re: DOJ |OT| SUMMIT NOW SUMMIT NOW
« Reply #4926 on: December 06, 2019, 08:14:32 PM »
He may be a racist piece of shit (compared to me being a racist non-military piece of shit. :trumps ) but he's in the military, he knows their RoE far better than my /k/ommando ass.

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Re: DOJ |OT| SUMMIT NOW SUMMIT NOW
« Reply #4927 on: December 06, 2019, 08:33:37 PM »
you'd be tried(and pardoned by trump) for war crimes if you treated enemy combatants the way police are allowed to treat citizens in the U.S.
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thisismyusername

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Re: DOJ |OT| SUMMIT NOW SUMMIT NOW
« Reply #4928 on: December 06, 2019, 08:36:59 PM »
But seriously, Filler: What is the Rules of Engagement for urban zones?

OnlyRegret

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Re: DOJ |OT| SUMMIT NOW SUMMIT NOW
« Reply #4929 on: December 06, 2019, 08:37:26 PM »
weird how it seems like the military has higher standards and more restrictiveness despite there being a significantly increased chance of people actually trying to and capable of killing you

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Re: DOJ |OT| SUMMIT NOW SUMMIT NOW
« Reply #4930 on: December 06, 2019, 08:37:59 PM »
But seriously, Filler: What is the Rules of Engagement for urban zones?

 :gun :gun :gun

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Re: DOJ |OT| SUMMIT NOW SUMMIT NOW
« Reply #4931 on: December 06, 2019, 08:59:47 PM »
I had a buddy who got in trouble because somebody ran up to attack the truck he was driving and he fired out the window to stop the attack. This broke the ROE and he finished his military career as a specialist. Meanwhile we get to see videos of cops breaking the rules, killing someone, and they get paid vacations for it.
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OnlyRegret

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Re: DOJ |OT| SUMMIT NOW SUMMIT NOW
« Reply #4932 on: December 06, 2019, 09:18:04 PM »
I had a buddy who got in trouble because somebody ran up to attack the truck he was driving and he fired out the window to stop the attack. This broke the ROE and he finished his military career as a specialist. Meanwhile we get to see videos of cops breaking the rules, killing someone, and they get paid vacations for it.

Wild.
Stricter rules despite the people involved being much likelier to explode than to just be wielding a very, very blurry and scary phone.

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Re: DOJ |OT| SUMMIT NOW SUMMIT NOW
« Reply #4933 on: December 06, 2019, 09:19:02 PM »
So, uh, if what I just heard is accurate, not only is FeistyBoots a troll, but he (yes he identifies as male) is not the only one with some degree of visibility.

I have a friend in the TransEra discord that is aware of 4 other posters excluding Feisty in there that are total trolls, 2 of which are high profile posters. Out of all 5 of these alleged trolls, only 1 is actually trans/nb, and she's apparently the biggest edgelord of them all.

FeistyBoots is the only name I've been given since my friend wants to see how far the others can take it and she thinks he's laying it on way too thick and is probably going to get exposed soon anyway. And no, I'm not going to name my friend either since she actually does like it in there even if she acknowledges it gets heavy handed at times.

Of course she could also be totally fucking with me here. Wouldn't be the first time. I asked her if I could post it here and she said yeah since it would be funny (I know you're reading this, lol). I guess we'll see what happens and if they ever get exposed.
Wow at this alt-right smear against a key leader of TransEra who was at The Summit which SweetNicole opened with a foreward. This is yet another attempt by the gators to spread myths like that Enzom21 was a poster or that the ads on ResetERA.com are a problem or that an LLC can have a single owner.

This definitely makes the calls for summits more important than ever.

I and others on here have suspected this for ages. Trans people are very rare and they're just as likely to be an asshole as anyone else. The level of animosity and ability to manipulate mods screams trolling. It's like that season of Soutg Park.

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Re: DOJ |OT| SUMMIT NOW SUMMIT NOW
« Reply #4934 on: December 06, 2019, 09:20:41 PM »
Meanwhile, because they locked that other thread, the one they missed from the same day gets bumped: https://www.resetera.com/threads/getting-full-screen-ads-on-resetera-when-viewing-on-mobile-device.156710/post-27119276
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Is someone higher up going to ever respond to this or are they ok with everyone just using ad blockers?
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I'm surprised they haven't locked this thread and told you to keep it in the ad reporting thread that rarely gets an admin response.
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Just having an admin or someone acknowledge the issue and that they are looking into it would go a long way.
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Oh wow a thread complain about ads that didn't get locked within 10 minutes telling everyone to go to the pinned thread to complain?
WE NEED AN AD SUMMIT
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We've updated on the issue a few times this week in various threads -- it's a lot easier when reports are concentrated in the Ad Reporting Thread.

Towards the end of the year this tends to be a problem on any ad supported site, but our ad agency is monitoring the aforementioned thread and those reports are being used to stamp out the bad ads as they crop up.
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Firefox with adblocker is the only way to browse re now because they won't fix this.

thisismyusername

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Re: DOJ |OT| SUMMIT NOW SUMMIT NOW
« Reply #4935 on: December 06, 2019, 09:24:04 PM »
I had a buddy who got in trouble because somebody ran up to attack the truck he was driving and he fired out the window to stop the attack. This broke the ROE and he finished his military career as a specialist. Meanwhile we get to see videos of cops breaking the rules, killing someone, and they get paid vacations for it.

Wild.
Stricter rules despite the people involved being much likelier to explode than to just be wielding a very, very blurry and scary phone.

Apparently, on reddit anyway, the driver/hostage was crawling out of the UPS van before the firing started. So they lit him up anyway. WTF.

Averon

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Re: DOJ |OT| SUMMIT NOW SUMMIT NOW
« Reply #4936 on: December 06, 2019, 09:39:04 PM »
The more I read those updated guidelines, the more it sounds like they are just reverting back to the style of modding NeoGAF used before its implosion. When Reee first started, they attempted at more transparent and less heavy handed moderation that NeoGAF was known for. Of course that didn't last for even a year, but at least they put in the effort to lie. All that did was piss off the protected users enough to force Cerium and all to bring back NeoGAF-style moderation.
« Last Edit: December 06, 2019, 09:45:34 PM by Averon »

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Re: DOJ |OT| SUMMIT NOW SUMMIT NOW
« Reply #4937 on: December 06, 2019, 09:55:49 PM »
I had a buddy who got in trouble because somebody ran up to attack the truck he was driving and he fired out the window to stop the attack. This broke the ROE and he finished his military career as a specialist. Meanwhile we get to see videos of cops breaking the rules, killing someone, and they get paid vacations for it.

Wild.
Stricter rules despite the people involved being much likelier to explode than to just be wielding a very, very blurry and scary phone.

Apparently, on reddit anyway, the driver/hostage was crawling out of the UPS van before the firing started. So they lit him up anyway. WTF.

Sounds like resetera's policy. Shoot first ask questions later, then apologize after backlash but refuse to learn anything.

:gun :bow2

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Re: DOJ |OT| SUMMIT NOW SUMMIT NOW
« Reply #4938 on: December 06, 2019, 10:24:06 PM »
Filler sounds kind of jelly he couldn't get into a shoot out around civilians tbh
https://twitter.com/ToddHagopian/status/1203148244047605760

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GreatSageEqualOfHeaven

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Re: DOJ |OT| SUMMIT NOW SUMMIT NOW
« Reply #4939 on: December 06, 2019, 10:38:44 PM »
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If the video is found to have been destroyed or lost by the bar, Phipps’ team argued charges relating to the tape should be dropped.

it obviously goes without saying that all men are rapists and all accusations are true, but uh.... if you have charges filed with video evidence as the basis for those charges and that video evidence goes missing before the trial... dropping those charges seems the just thing to do, no?

Re: DOJ |OT| SUMMIT NOW SUMMIT NOW
« Reply #4940 on: December 06, 2019, 10:49:37 PM »
so i guess the black summit happened, it would be really problematic if it didnt

so good to hear era cares about black people  :heh

Switters

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Re: DOJ |OT| SUMMIT NOW SUMMIT NOW
« Reply #4941 on: December 06, 2019, 10:52:24 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/year-end-policy-updates-and-community-affairs.157629/post-27139962

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Will Era ever impose a feature that hides threads from lurker view that are sensitive topics, like trans focused threads?

Would it ever be possible to identify someone who screenshots posts and submits them to hate sites?

"that hides screen shots of my twitter rage quit?"

Like you give a shit about anyone but yourself you sniveling fucking twat.




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« Reply #4942 on: December 06, 2019, 10:54:15 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/year-end-policy-updates-and-community-affairs.157629/post-27139962

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Will Era ever impose a feature that hides threads from lurker view that are sensitive topics, like trans focused threads?

Would it ever be possible to identify someone who screenshots posts and submits them to hate sites?

"that hides screen shots of my twitter rage quit?"

Like you give a shit about anyone but yourself you sniveling fucking twat.


Boredfrom

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Re: DOJ |OT| SUMMIT NOW SUMMIT NOW
« Reply #4943 on: December 06, 2019, 10:59:22 PM »
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Would it ever be possible to identify someone who screenshots posts and submits them to hate sites?

 :confused

thisismyusername

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Re: DOJ |OT| SUMMIT NOW SUMMIT NOW
« Reply #4944 on: December 06, 2019, 11:13:11 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/year-end-policy-updates-and-community-affairs.157629/post-27139962

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Will Era ever impose a feature that hides threads from lurker view that are sensitive topics, like trans focused threads?

Would it ever be possible to identify someone who screenshots posts and submits them to hate sites?

"that hides screen shots of my twitter rage quit?"

Like you give a shit about anyone but yourself you sniveling fucking twat.

>implying hate sites can't just register moblin-tier lurker accounts to screenshot and archive to laugh at their sites
OH I'M LAFFIN'.

#NoTNoShade to moblin, bb. :heart

ShutUp

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Re: DOJ |OT| SUMMIT NOW SUMMIT NOW
« Reply #4945 on: December 06, 2019, 11:52:39 PM »
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Would it ever be possible to identify someone who screenshots posts and submits them to hate sites?

 :confused

Want to identify the person and hire a hitman from the dark web, obviously.

clothedmacuser

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Re: DOJ |OT| SUMMIT NOW SUMMIT NOW
« Reply #4946 on: December 07, 2019, 12:12:30 AM »
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Would it ever be possible to identify someone who screenshots posts and submits them to hate sites?

 :confused

Want to identify the person and hire a hitman from the dark web, obviously.

Zay will never Idendify mein agents. 



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Re: DOJ |OT| SUMMIT NOW SUMMIT NOW
« Reply #4947 on: December 07, 2019, 12:16:33 AM »
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Would it ever be possible to identify someone who screenshots posts and submits them to hate sites?

 :confused

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Momo

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Re: DOJ |OT| SUMMIT NOW SUMMIT NOW
« Reply #4948 on: December 07, 2019, 12:48:42 AM »
they could just create a gui in visual basic to backtrace their ip

clothedmacuser

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Re: DOJ |OT| SUMMIT NOW SUMMIT NOW
« Reply #4949 on: December 07, 2019, 01:25:18 AM »
Oh god.  Hobbes is gonna become trans now after being black didn't work out so well.
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Cauliflower Of Love

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Re: DOJ |OT| SUMMIT NOW SUMMIT NOW
« Reply #4950 on: December 07, 2019, 03:17:00 AM »
Imagine wanting a private public forum.

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Nintex

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Re: DOJ |OT| SUMMIT NOW SUMMIT NOW
« Reply #4952 on: December 07, 2019, 06:07:31 AM »
I'm glad filler is in the military protecting us all  8)
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Tektonic

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Re: DOJ |OT| SUMMIT NOW SUMMIT NOW
« Reply #4953 on: December 07, 2019, 06:53:17 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/resetera-is-alright-man.157682/

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Rman

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Re: DOJ |OT| SUMMIT NOW SUMMIT NOW
« Reply #4954 on: December 07, 2019, 07:16:35 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/year-end-policy-updates-and-community-affairs.157629/post-27139962

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Will Era ever impose a feature that hides threads from lurker view that are sensitive topics, like trans focused threads?

Would it ever be possible to identify someone who screenshots posts and submits them to hate sites?

"that hides screen shots of my twitter rage quit?"

Like you give a shit about anyone but yourself you sniveling fucking twat.

>implying hate sites can't just register moblin-tier lurker accounts to screenshot and archive to laugh at their sites
OH I'M LAFFIN'.

#NoTNoShade to moblin, bb. :heart
Don't these people know that the hardcore lurkers that clown them offsite have accounts? Heck, some have infiltrated private Discords.

Jenkem

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Re: DOJ |OT| SUMMIT NOW SUMMIT NOW
« Reply #4955 on: December 07, 2019, 07:39:09 AM »
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Jenkem

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Re: DOJ |OT| SUMMIT NOW SUMMIT NOW
« Reply #4956 on: December 07, 2019, 07:43:47 AM »
I'm sure they shot up the UPS truck because it is brown. If it was a FedEx truck they likely would have let it escape.  :doge

GreatSageEqualOfHeaven

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Re: DOJ |OT| SUMMIT NOW SUMMIT NOW
« Reply #4957 on: December 07, 2019, 08:30:09 AM »
Oh god.  Hobbes is gonna become trans now after being black didn't work out so well.

If it helps him get into one of the special teams, I am prepared to offer an observational diagnosis that he might be distinguished mentally-challenged fellowed

also of course
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Don Rumata

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Re: DOJ |OT| SUMMIT NOW SUMMIT NOW
« Reply #4959 on: December 07, 2019, 09:39:41 AM »
Basically what they are saying is if you are not part of the marginalized group the thread is about, stay out or eat a ban.

LGBT threads for LGBT members only
Threads about black people are for black people only, BCT members in particular.
A thread about women? Men stay the fuck out!

Reee is actually advocating becoming more segregated, ironically enough  :lol
Era's definition of sexuality and gender is so vague, that any thread is open to anyone, though. :rollsafe
Whether you're an asexual that loves sex, or a gay man who's only into women.

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Re: DOJ |OT| SUMMIT NOW SUMMIT NOW
« Reply #4960 on: December 07, 2019, 09:53:46 AM »
I can't quite get why acknowledging Sasha Grey was a very famous pornstar (if a bit overrated) was sexist. I mean, Resetera can't let go off some out-of-context quotes some minor Internet personality said eight years ago but saying Sasha Grey did porn is sexist?

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Re: DOJ |OT| SUMMIT NOW SUMMIT NOW
« Reply #4961 on: December 07, 2019, 10:08:01 AM »
I guess deep down they think being a sex-worker is shameful

Or they just hate humour. 50/50

Snoopycat_

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Re: DOJ |OT| SUMMIT NOW SUMMIT NOW
« Reply #4962 on: December 07, 2019, 10:11:51 AM »
Oh god.  Hobbes is gonna become trans now after being black didn't work out so well.

Nup, just before his ban he was trying to care dad the trans community but got rejected by the frightwigs. So the trans angle is out. He's probably thinking about making a good ole suicide thread and spinning that into care dadding the mental community. It's risky though because KetKat sits on the mental's throne and has strong support from the kingdom of frightwigs.

tiesto

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Re: DOJ |OT| SUMMIT NOW SUMMIT NOW
« Reply #4963 on: December 07, 2019, 10:12:55 AM »
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Brings new meaning to the term 'slammer'
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HaughtyFrank

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Re: DOJ |OT| SUMMIT NOW SUMMIT NOW
« Reply #4964 on: December 07, 2019, 10:32:13 AM »
I can't quite get why acknowledging Sasha Grey was a very famous pornstar (if a bit overrated) was sexist. I mean, Resetera can't let go off some out-of-context quotes some minor Internet personality said eight years ago but saying Sasha Grey did porn is sexist?

They pretty much branded it as shameful past that can't be alluded to which is quite ironic.


Transhuman

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Re: DOJ |OT| SUMMIT NOW SUMMIT NOW
« Reply #4966 on: December 07, 2019, 11:20:15 AM »
Did anyone else hate Looper as much as I did? That 93% RT score blows my mind

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Re: DOJ |OT| SUMMIT NOW SUMMIT NOW
« Reply #4967 on: December 07, 2019, 11:21:46 AM »



Cauliflower Of Love

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Re: DOJ |OT| SUMMIT NOW SUMMIT NOW
« Reply #4970 on: December 07, 2019, 11:34:06 AM »

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Re: DOJ |OT| SUMMIT NOW SUMMIT NOW
« Reply #4971 on: December 07, 2019, 11:37:40 AM »

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Re: DOJ |OT| SUMMIT NOW SUMMIT NOW
« Reply #4973 on: December 07, 2019, 11:45:49 AM »
So, uh, if what I just heard is accurate, not only is FeistyBoots a troll, but he (yes he identifies as male) is not the only one with some degree of visibility.

I have a friend in the TransEra discord that is aware of 4 other posters excluding Feisty in there that are total trolls, 2 of which are high profile posters. Out of all 5 of these alleged trolls, only 1 is actually trans/nb, and she's apparently the biggest edgelord of them all.

FeistyBoots is the only name I've been given since my friend wants to see how far the others can take it and she thinks he's laying it on way too thick and is probably going to get exposed soon anyway. And no, I'm not going to name my friend either since she actually does like it in there even if she acknowledges it gets heavy handed at times.

Of course she could also be totally fucking with me here. Wouldn't be the first time. I asked her if I could post it here and she said yeah since it would be funny (I know you're reading this, lol). I guess we'll see what happens and if they ever get exposed.
Wow at this alt-right smear against a key leader of TransEra who was at The Summit which SweetNicole opened with a foreward. This is yet another attempt by the gators to spread myths like that Enzom21 was a poster or that the ads on ResetERA.com are a problem or that an LLC can have a single owner.

This definitely makes the calls for summits more important than ever.

If this is true then how much of this thread and that Neogaf thread and all the other places on the other “hate sites”  :brain is just people reacting to trolls?

lol

I’m only laughing at the people agreeing with the troll  :snob

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Re: DOJ |OT| SUMMIT NOW SUMMIT NOW
« Reply #4975 on: December 07, 2019, 12:09:33 PM »
‘Like Paul Thomas Anderson’

:neogaf
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Tripon

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Re: DOJ |OT| SUMMIT NOW SUMMIT NOW
« Reply #4976 on: December 07, 2019, 12:10:35 PM »

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Re: DOJ |OT| SUMMIT NOW SUMMIT NOW
« Reply #4978 on: December 07, 2019, 12:13:45 PM »
I guess Big Substitute Protein are financing her campaign

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Re: DOJ |OT| SUMMIT NOW SUMMIT NOW
« Reply #4979 on: December 07, 2019, 01:01:03 PM »
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Thank you to the team to continuing to work towards a safer and more welcoming place online for people with no place else to go. I am one of these people.

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No place left to go like a back stockroom with a male body blocking the only exit?