International Politics Thread - Disease and Disaster

[Nintex]

Biden's not the only one taking a big L.

Putin promised to Macron that the troops would leave Belarus, they didn't
Putin promised Macron he wouldn't invade Ukraine or escalate the situation

He promised a lot of other things too. The sun king said diplomacy was headed in the right direction and an invasion had been called off but he looks utterly ridiculous now.


US on the run
https://twitter.com/JenniferJJacobs/status/1495896613386133512

Macron mad, he will roll out the sanctions. (but if the US doesn't, the Germans might get cold feet too)
https://twitter.com/Conflicts/status/1495891315116195854

[benjipwns]

 

[Nintex]

Nothing from Zelensky yet, probably expected a bigger response from the US so he's in a pickle.
Also all this has been launched by Putin assuming Kyiv indeed got rid of all their nuclear weapons.

Anyhow we can safely say that the US strategy (make the Russian plans public, so they wouldn't happen) hasn't exactly how to put it, worked.
And the EU go to strategy (i.e. kick the can down the road by blocking Ukraine from joining NATO) hasn't worked either.

[Nintex]

US advices Zelensky to go to the place they are evacuating.
https://twitter.com/BNONews/status/1495907758004183044

Also smart to tell the Russians where he should go you fucking idiots.


Zelensky says he doesn't want history lessons but peace 

[chronovore]

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Not just that, but why-the-hell have only one backup generator, and have it within the effect area of a tidal wave. Sure, the waves were big, but not unprecedented. If Fukushima had another backup on a nearby hill, the whole story would have gone differently.

[Nintex]

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Not just that, but why-the-hell have only one backup generator, and have it within the effect area of a tidal wave. Sure, the waves were big, but not unprecedented. If Fukushima had another backup on a nearby hill, the whole story would have gone differently.

By Japanese tradition once one backup generator went out the other had to commit Sepukku

[benjipwns]

Look at this warlock:
https://twitter.com/PhilipinDC/status/1495730338315841539

[benjipwns]

https://twitter.com/TPostMillennial/status/1495961814420664327

[BisMarckie]

lol Luxembourgish, isn't that what they speak in LOTR? What a nerd

[BisMarckie]

https://twitter.com/TPostMillennial/status/1495961814420664327

I always thought the untitled goose game playerbase was sus.

[OnlyRegret]

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Not just that, but why-the-hell have only one backup generator, and have it within the effect area of a tidal wave. Sure, the waves were big, but not unprecedented. If Fukushima had another backup on a nearby hill, the whole story would have gone differently.

By Japanese tradition once one backup generator went out the other had to commit Sepukku

[who is ted danson?]

Fingers crossed for a new draft. Send the youngsters to fight in Ukraine!

After their glorious victory, they will be able to return home to student debt, rent at 60% of their take home, 10% """transitory"""" inflation, wages still below 2008 in real terms, politicians in the pockets of the billionaires and over 60s, having to fix climate change, having to pay and care for an aging population, stock market & $GME still rigged, ban on crypto (probably), avocados, tinder, and tiktok.


Who wouldn't fight for that? No need to ask, just draft.

Edit: boomers/landlords/1% WILL NOT be drafted or have to pay for the way under any circumstance!! Drafting the rich or having a war tax is communism!!!!

[who is ted danson?]

https://twitter.com/mi6rogue/status/1496032990316699649
 

[chronovore]

Look at this warlock:
https://twitter.com/PhilipinDC/status/1495730338315841539

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/maxseddon/status/1496162056273371140

https://twitter.com/maxseddon/status/1496165752298254341

Putin recognizes the entire Donbass as independent including the port city Mariupol currently not under rebel control.



https://twitter.com/ELINTNews/status/1496161811321786372

[Nintex]

Putin's ultimatum to Kyiv summarized:
1. To recognise the will of people in Sevastopol and Crimea
2. UA should not join NATO. UA authorities themselves must refuse to join
3. To solve the problem of #Donbass through negotiations, but it is no longer relevant
4. Demilitarisation of UA

[james]

For some reason I really want to play Civilization

[Uncle]

[benjipwns]

https://twitter.com/Leftwatch2/status/1496190025343684616

[james]

So Russia invaded but didnt really invade?

Just like in Civilization when I amass troops on the border, declare war, and then it takes me 5 turns to actually reach the city because it's all hill terrain

[Nintex]

All preperations are complete and Russia is set to invade within 48 hours according to the latest news.

Ukraine is trying to persuade NATO to cover their air space from Poland and the Baltics, as that would dramatically reduce the risk of the Russians moving beyond the Dnieper.

The Russians have evacuated their embassy in Kyiv.


https://twitter.com/maxseddon/status/1496556653654810626

Meanwhile

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1496556748559290378

"Taiwan is like two feet from China and we are eight thousand miles away. If they invade, there isn’t a fucking thing we can do about it."
- Donald Trump, 2019

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1496519723487531008

 

[james]

Do we think Russia will start launching virtual attacks on US websites (like Facebook) and if so, how will Daddy Joe respond?

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/maxseddon/status/1496588508839956489

Welp, looks like this is it.

[Potato]

Do we think Russia will start launching virtual attacks on US websites (like Facebook) and if so, how will Daddy Joe respond?

Can I write a letter to Putin to request this?

[james]

Do we think Russia will start launching virtual attacks on US websites (like Facebook) and if so, how will Daddy Joe respond?

Can I write a letter to Putin to request this?

Everyone will celebrate when they knock down facebook but imagine the chaos if Youtube goes offline

[Potato]

https://twitter.com/maxseddon/status/1496588508839956489

Welp, looks like this is it.

I wonder what it feels like to produce absolute theatre like this?

[Potato]

Do we think Russia will start launching virtual attacks on US websites (like Facebook) and if so, how will Daddy Joe respond?

Can I write a letter to Putin to request this?

Everyone will celebrate when they knock down facebook but imagine the chaos if Youtube goes offline

Even better

[james]

the Russians are winning

Dow closes at its lowest level of 2022 so far, S&P 500 drops further into correction territory

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/22/stock-market-futures-open-to-close-news.html

[Nintex]

I wonder what it feels like to produce absolute theatre like this?

From what I've seen and what some foreign correspondents have also noted is that this propaganda campaign lacks the enthusiasm of the earlier ones.
You see an RT reporter pry out a shell with a stick and 'freedom celebrations' with 10 people and some fireworks. The whole thing is sloppy, including the meta data and documents signed on the wrong dates.
It's like the folks carrying out the orders don't give a shit and do the bare minimum.

Even taking into account the fact that this is mostly for domestic consumption (remember, lots of Russians can't read English so the Russian news is all they ever get) the quality is piss poor.
Which also begs the question of how much effort the Russian military will actually put into this invasion. Because they know that moving on Kharkiv and Kyiv will not be a surprise attack like taking the Crimea or conquering some remote Georgian villages.
Ukraine put up a decent fight last time with just their hastily recruited militia's (which is why the area the rebels control is quite small) even after Russia took out most of their air force.
This time Ukraine has turned on their air defenses and they can see the Russian columns clog up the roads on Google Maps. I don't see anything but a very difficult battle ahead if they decide to attack Ukrainian armed forces directly and push for the big cities.

[Potato]

There is clearly some dissent in Russia too if the farce with Putin/intelligence guy was anything to go by.

Never discount the fury of Russian mothers being greeted by their sons coming home in body bags.

[Nintex]

There is clearly some dissent in Russia too if the farce with Putin/intelligence guy was anything to go by.

Never discount the fury of Russian mothers bring greeted by their sons coming home in body bags.

It's why they're bringing mobile crematoriums.
https://twitter.com/TelegraphWorld/status/1496587775050670083

[james]

Plus Russia is looking at 800 covid deaths a day

[Nintex]

Zelensky just went live. Says Ukraine does not want war but will defend itself.
Spoke in Russian and appealed to the Russian people to prevent the war.

https://twitter.com/shaunwalker7/status/1496619010842152960

https://twitter.com/maxseddon/status/1496620637019852812

[Potato]

There is clearly some dissent in Russia too if the farce with Putin/intelligence guy was anything to go by.

Never discount the fury of Russian mothers bring greeted by their sons coming home in body bags.

It's why they're bringing mobile crematoriums.
https://twitter.com/TelegraphWorld/status/1496587775050670083

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/maxseddon/status/1496622105483517952

[Potato]

Not that I think it will do anything, but it is satisfying watching Putin getting called out on his bullshit.

[Nintex]

Russia just closed the air space on the Ukrainian border.
https://twitter.com/L0gg0l/status/1496627325609328641

Today I initiated a phone call with the president of the Russian Federation.
The result was silence, though the silence should be in the Donbas.
As a result I want to address all citizens of Russia.

We are separated by more than 2000 km of mutual borders, along which 200,000 of your soldiers and 1,000 armored vehicles are standing.
Your leadership has approved their step forward onto the territory of another country. This step could become the beginning of a big war.
The cause could come up at any moment, any provocation, any spark, a spark that could burn everything down.
You are told that this flame will liberate the people of Ukraine, but the Ukrainian people are free.

You are told we hate Russian culture. How can one hate a culture?
Neighbors always enrich each other culturally, however, that doesn’t make them a single whole, it doesn’t dissolve us into you. We are different, but that is not a reason to be enemies.
Listen to the voice of reason. The people of Ukraine want peace, the authorities in Ukraine want peace, they want it and are doing everything they can for it.
We don’t need war.

But if we are attacked, if someone attempts to take away our land, our freedom, our lives, the lives of our children, we will defend ourselves.
We won’t attack, but defend ourselves. By attacking, you will see our faces, not our backs, but our faces.

War will remove guarantees from everyone. No one will have security guarantees any more.
Who will suffer most of all from this? People. Who wants this the least? People.
Who can not allow this to happen? People. There are these people among you, I’m sure of it.

I know this speech of mine won’t be shown on Russian TV, but the people of Russia need to see it.
They need to know the truth. The truth is that this must be stopped before it is too late, and if the leadership of the Russia does not want to sit down at a table for peace with us, then maybe it will sit down at a table with you.
Do Russians want war? I would very much like to answer this question. But the answer depends only on you — the citizens of the Russian Federation.

War means pain, mud, blood and the death of thousands — tens of thousands of deaths. You are told that Ukraine is a threat to Russia.
It was not in the past, it is not now, and it won’t be in the future.

Media in Ukraine reports Russia to attack Ukraine 4 AM Kyiv time, which is in 2 hours or so. 

[Transhuman]

Not that I think it will do anything, but it is satisfying watching Putin getting called out on his bullshit.

I find all the begging for him to stop infuriating. Not that I expect much out of the UN after what they did to Emma Reilly. They're purely a virtue-signalling operation.

[OnlyRegret]

here we go here we go

[james]

Fuck Putin why the fuck isn't the cia popping his ass

[Borealis]

First SPG artillery and aerial bombings to soften Ukraine's defences, then ground attacks plus amphibious landings to follow in the coming hours.

At least stop peddling the bullshit "Russia has been left no chance to protect itself by other means" Putin.

[benjipwns]

Fuck Putin why the fuck isn't the cia popping his ass

https://twitter.com/JenGriffinFNC/status/1496681322869362691

[benjipwns]

Nothing makes me doubt Russia's status as an international power as much as these propaganda clips:
https://twitter.com/jakluge/status/1496521293126066181

[chronovore]

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/putin-orders-military-operations-ukraine-demands-kyiv-forces-surrender-2022-02-24/

[BisMarckie]

Nothing makes me doubt Russia's status as an international power as much as these propaganda clips:
https://twitter.com/jakluge/status/1496521293126066181

to be fair, nazi germany was an international power and the gleiwitz incident was at a similar level of amateur hour

[who is ted danson?]

https://twitter.com/rachelmorison/status/1496753605935874049

 

[Nintex]

Fuck this is bad, ukraine hit hard by the orcs 

[Nintex]

Germany's army chief says they can't help but hints at rearmament

https://twitter.com/tobiaschneider/status/1496759242786852871

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/DeItaone/status/1496762091566678018

[who is ted danson?]

Those battalions of antifa supersoldiers sure would be useful right now 

[Snoopycat_]

More sanctions. Ooh. Putin will be shitting himself now. It's not like Europe depends on Russia for it's gas supply or anything

[recursivelyenumerable]

are there any actual good arguments i can read for why this isn't an enormous own goal for Putin/RF/Putin's circle? like I'm racking my brains and just can't come up with any plausibly likely scenario where this isn't a huge disaster for them

like that thing with Trump going on about Putin's genius ... never mind the outage about him being unpatriotic or a traitor or whatever like ... it's just factually wrong? like, no he's not he's a fucking idiot lol?

[james]

are there any actual good arguments i can read for why this isn't an enormous own goal for Putin/RF/Putin's circle? like I'm racking my brains and just can't come up with any plausibly likely scenario where this isn't a huge disaster for them

like that thing with Trump going on about Putin's genius ... never mind the outage about him being unpatriotic or a traitor or whatever like ... it's just factually wrong? like, no he's not he's a fucking idiot lol?

Aside from oil going up = more oil money....

Theres like zero upside. Dude might just be mentally gone.

[Pissy F Benny]

what are his numbers like in Russia, this could be one way of changing onto power

[Transhuman]

It's only a bad move if the Russian invasion fails. Who's going to stop them? Unless Europe is willing to fight, Russia has already won.

[Nintex]

If Germany keeps blocking sanctions against the orcs we should invade Germany. 

[jorma]

If Germany keeps blocking sanctions against the orcs we should invade Germany. 

i just want to know how occam feels about that! 

[james]

Biden speaking

Should have been Bernie

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/ragipsoylu/status/1496905869983768581

https://twitter.com/Coalition_NSK/status/1496841602597367815

Pretty big protests in Russia against the war.