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« Reply #50880 on: February 03, 2020, 10:18:40 PM »
Buttigieg :yuck

He bores me so much. I have no idea what the fuck is up.
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #gopsucks
« Reply #50881 on: February 03, 2020, 10:20:20 PM »
Klobuchar love from the media makes no sense.
She's been around DC for a decade. She's from the Midwest. She's boring because she speaks in forced cliches. They think "regular voters" love all this stuff. Especially when the opposite would be Trump. Just like how voters flocked to Walter Mondale, George H.W. Bush, Bob Dole, John Kerry and Mitt Romney in the last Presidential re-election campaigns against their more "personable" opponents.

He bores me so much. I have no idea what the fuck is up.
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #gopsucks
« Reply #50882 on: February 03, 2020, 10:23:21 PM »
Don't forget that he speaks ten languages and has three degrees that he earned while dodging gunfire in Kabul
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #gopsucks
« Reply #50883 on: February 03, 2020, 10:23:23 PM »
After consultation, I will admit that earlier today I thought AOC was born in the 1990s and did not check as per normal benji regulations and operation standards, I am suspending my exploratory committee for Vice President in 2020 and will discuss a resignation or leave of absence with the board of directors, I just hope that someday I can find forgiveness in my heart for myself.

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #gopsucks
« Reply #50884 on: February 03, 2020, 10:25:06 PM »
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Nick Corasaniti, reporting from Des Moines Just now

Another reason for the results delay: Many precinct chairs abandoned the new app that was built to report results, as users struggled to log in.

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #gopsucks
« Reply #50885 on: February 03, 2020, 10:28:29 PM »
So far Deval Patrick has as many first votes as the guy who ran for nearly three years, spent millions of his own money and then dropped out on the eve of the caucuses because he claimed his staying in would help Bernie.

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #gopsucks
« Reply #50886 on: February 03, 2020, 10:34:34 PM »
Guess they need to rig it real quick before reporting

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #gopsucks
« Reply #50887 on: February 03, 2020, 10:39:34 PM »
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2% of precincts reporting
:rage :rage :rage :rage

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #gopsucks
« Reply #50889 on: February 03, 2020, 10:41:26 PM »
I like how we're getting final reports including vote counts from the thousands of reporters there on Twitter faster than the DNC can actually do it.

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #gopsucks
« Reply #50890 on: February 03, 2020, 10:43:48 PM »
They're bleaching the app! Give it a minute!

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #gopsucks
« Reply #50891 on: February 03, 2020, 10:47:36 PM »
I like how we're getting final reports including vote counts from the thousands of reporters there on Twitter faster than the DNC can actually do it.

Are the reporters working for free for Twitter, or getting paid to post their paid content on twitter?  :thinking

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #gopsucks
« Reply #50892 on: February 03, 2020, 10:48:04 PM »
omg, they have a centenarian inputting numbers into an iphone


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Himu

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #gopsucks
« Reply #50893 on: February 03, 2020, 10:50:39 PM »
jesus christ this is embarrassing
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #gopsucks
« Reply #50894 on: February 03, 2020, 10:51:56 PM »
Lol @ the results being delayed for Quality Checking Reasons
The fact that they won't report on the totals is extremely concerning. Never in the past has anything like this happened before. I am calling on the OAS to monitor new elections and, if that does not happen, I am calling on President Obrador Lopez to send troops from Mexico and intervene to restore American democracy.
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #gopsucks
« Reply #50895 on: February 03, 2020, 10:52:18 PM »
I hate this.  Every election I can't help but agonizing over NYT's stupid dial and this time it's not even moving.

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #gopsucks
« Reply #50896 on: February 03, 2020, 10:53:03 PM »
What a great way to kick off the election and to reassure everybody that their vote will count and they should stay engaged
:O

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #gopsucks
« Reply #50897 on: February 03, 2020, 10:55:44 PM »
I like that everyone is talking about rigging and not about how fucking stupidly inefficient and ridiculous our political parties are at something so basic as tallying fucking numbers. And to add insult to injury it's for a caucus, a tiered delegate election type designed specifically for the constraints of the 19th century. Meanwhile Estonia has online voting from home.
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #gopsucks
« Reply #50898 on: February 03, 2020, 10:56:49 PM »
The fact that they won't report on the totals is extremely concerning. Never in the past has anything like this happened before. I am calling on the OAS to monitor new elections and, if that does not happen, I am calling on President Obrador Lopez to send troops from Mexico and intervene to restore American democracy.
Was the opposition party even allowed observers into the Democratic caucuses?

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #gopsucks
« Reply #50899 on: February 03, 2020, 10:57:08 PM »
I like that everyone is talking about rigging and not about how fucking stupidly inefficient and ridiculous our political parties are at something so basic as tallying fucking numbers. Meanwhile Estonia has online voting from home.

Estonia? Keep your disney MCU fantasies to yourself.

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #gopsucks
« Reply #50900 on: February 03, 2020, 10:58:11 PM »
I like that everyone is talking about rigging and not about how fucking stupidly inefficient and ridiculous our political parties are at something so basic as tallying fucking numbers. And to add insult to injury it's for a caucus, a tiered delegate election type designed specifically for the constraints of the 19th century. Meanwhile Estonia has online voting from home.
Nobody would expect that an app that people have been complaining about for an entire year would not work properly when launch day came.

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #gopsucks
« Reply #50901 on: February 03, 2020, 10:58:42 PM »

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #gopsucks
« Reply #50902 on: February 03, 2020, 10:59:36 PM »
Don't shit talk caucuses buddy, you're going to one of the only three left with Iowa and American Samoa. :bolo

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #gopsucks
« Reply #50903 on: February 03, 2020, 11:00:01 PM »
I like that everyone is talking about rigging and not about how fucking stupidly inefficient and ridiculous our political parties are at something so basic as tallying fucking numbers. And to add insult to injury it's for a caucus, a tiered delegate election type designed specifically for the constraints of the 19th century. Meanwhile Estonia has online voting from home.

 :lol Dude, this is going to be you in about 3 weeks. The Caucus process is a horrible way to run a state election.

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #gopsucks
« Reply #50904 on: February 03, 2020, 11:00:44 PM »
BORE COCKUS NOW!
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #gopsucks
« Reply #50906 on: February 03, 2020, 11:03:10 PM »
Iowa won't switch from a caucus because if they go to a primary they lose their first place status, New Hampshire is guaranteed the first primary in the Democratic Party bylaws.

Nevada won't because it lets them do them in the casinos.

Every other state has abandoned them. There were actually 14 in 2016 which was less than 2012 which was less than... the GOP has hated caucuses for some time so they've been helping on this front, it's the Dems dragging their feet because causes empower organized interest groups.

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #gopsucks
« Reply #50907 on: February 03, 2020, 11:04:04 PM »


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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #gopsucks
« Reply #50908 on: February 03, 2020, 11:05:37 PM »
SANDERS AHEAD
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #gopsucks
« Reply #50909 on: February 03, 2020, 11:06:29 PM »

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #gopsucks
« Reply #50910 on: February 03, 2020, 11:06:44 PM »
:lol Dude, this is going to be you in about 3 weeks. The Caucus process is a horrible way to run a state election.
there are four days of early voting
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #gopsucks
« Reply #50911 on: February 03, 2020, 11:09:32 PM »
And to add insult to injury it's for a caucus, a tiered delegate election type designed specifically for the constraints of the 19th century.
Actually, it's even older. Party conventions are what are from the 1830s. They replaced the congressional and local party caucuses which was considered not democratic enough.

States didn't use caucuses to determine delegates to the conventions but a whole variety of different methods. In fact, delegates to the Constitutional Conventions were more often than not elected by the people. Even those sent to the Confederation Congress were often elected through methods that looked more like a primary-general or a run-off system.

Even in the presidential system, primaries date back to 1911. Caucuses replaced them as part of the Democratic Party's process. The Republican Party traditionally has just copied whatever the Democrats do because then the states will pay for it.

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« Reply #50912 on: February 03, 2020, 11:09:50 PM »
Shut the fuck up
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #gopsucks
« Reply #50913 on: February 03, 2020, 11:10:39 PM »
I blame this on Obama for not giving support to the DNC after winning the presidency.

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #gopsucks
« Reply #50914 on: February 03, 2020, 11:11:55 PM »
https://twitter.com/zachhammer/status/1224538369675407360

Imagine if they have to ask the Bernie Sanders campaign for the totals.   There's no way, but it's fun to imagine.

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #gopsucks
« Reply #50915 on: February 03, 2020, 11:12:05 PM »
there are four days of early voting
How do you realign early votes to meet the 15% threshold?

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #gopsucks
« Reply #50916 on: February 03, 2020, 11:12:30 PM »
"Nobody knows who owns the app"

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #gopsucks
« Reply #50917 on: February 03, 2020, 11:13:23 PM »
:O

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« Reply #50918 on: February 03, 2020, 11:13:31 PM »
"Nobody knows who owns the app"
filler knows :rollsafe

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #gopsucks
« Reply #50919 on: February 03, 2020, 11:13:49 PM »
https://twitter.com/NormOrnstein/status/1224542412133060608

Norman Ornstein seems like a smart and earnest man who has been ruined by twitter.

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #gopsucks
« Reply #50920 on: February 03, 2020, 11:14:33 PM »
How do you realign early votes to meet the 15% threshold?
You rank them
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #gopsucks
« Reply #50921 on: February 03, 2020, 11:14:41 PM »
You know what app works great for reporting data like this? A spreadsheet.

They should have bought a VisiCalc license.

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #gopsucks
« Reply #50922 on: February 03, 2020, 11:15:39 PM »
Not embarrassing at all. Good Jon, everyone.

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #gopsucks
« Reply #50923 on: February 03, 2020, 11:15:51 PM »
"Nobody knows who owns the app"
What if Jared Kushner owns it? o_0

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #gopsucks
« Reply #50924 on: February 03, 2020, 11:16:45 PM »
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #gopsucks
« Reply #50925 on: February 03, 2020, 11:19:21 PM »
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This is exactly what we didn't want to happen.  :punch

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #gopsucks
« Reply #50926 on: February 03, 2020, 11:24:57 PM »
who let mama klobachur sneak into the comedy cellar?

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #gopsucks
« Reply #50929 on: February 03, 2020, 11:29:31 PM »
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Jonathan Martin, reporting from Des Moines 4m ago

A precinct captain in Dubuque tells me the app to report results didn’t load and nobody helped. She’s now on hold with party officials.

Nick Corasaniti, reporting from Des Moines 10m ago

William Baresel, the Floyd County chair, told me “I have had 3 precincts unable to report results.” They couldn't report through the app or by phone.

Trip Gabriel, reporting from Dubuque 11m ago

You think figuring caucus results is easy? At the precinct I was at, organizers stumbled over the viability threshold, miscalculating 262 people x 15%.

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #gopsucks
« Reply #50930 on: February 03, 2020, 11:31:45 PM »

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« Reply #50931 on: February 03, 2020, 11:32:57 PM »
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Sydney Ember, reporting from Des Moines 2m ago

Iowa Democrats: “We found inconsistencies in the reporting of three sets of results.” Using photos & paper trail “to validate that all results match.”

Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #gopsucks
« Reply #50932 on: February 03, 2020, 11:34:04 PM »
On ABC they said the delay is because of discrepancy between their three set of results? From the way they are talking about it sounds like the Democrats bollocksed it up big time. Can understand Bernie bros going conspiratorial if it hampers his media drive he would have gotten otherwise from winning.

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #gopsucks
« Reply #50933 on: February 03, 2020, 11:34:08 PM »
DEVAL PATRICK HAS RECEIVED A VOTE, THIS IS NOT A DRILL, HE HAS ESCAPED THE TIE WITH DELANEY

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #gopsucks
« Reply #50935 on: February 03, 2020, 11:34:25 PM »
I guess the losers are going first.

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #gopsucks
« Reply #50936 on: February 03, 2020, 11:35:14 PM »
NYT says all the candidates are going to be giving their speeches and shit so they can bail out, not going to bother waiting. Bernie and Pete only ones they don't have confirmation on. (I guess Pete planned on staying in Iowa anyway.)

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« Reply #50938 on: February 03, 2020, 11:35:54 PM »
On ABC they said the delay is because of discrepancy between their three set of results?
The third is calculated from the second and the second is calculated from the first so that doesn't make any sense.
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« Reply #50939 on: February 03, 2020, 11:36:13 PM »
NYT says all the candidates are going to be giving their speeches and shit so they can bail out, not going to bother waiting. Bernie and Pete only ones they don't have confirmation on. (I guess Pete planned on staying in Iowa anyway.)

Holdout bernie isn't gonna give his speech till 2028