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General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: CurseoftheGods on February 01, 2009, 11:52:19 PM

Title: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: CurseoftheGods on February 01, 2009, 11:52:19 PM
(http://i44.tinypic.com/24zaqfm.gif)

Differences between PS3 and 360:

- No AA for PS3 compared to 2xAA for 360.
- Resolution drops from 720p to 630p during supers or ultras for some reason on PS3 (confirmed on SRK).

Read about it a bit more here:

http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1262452&postcount=123

Some tasty new media from the home versions here:

http://ruliweb.empas.com/data/rulinews/read.htm?num=16730

Xbox Live Gamertags - Username:
CurseoftheGods - CurseoftheGods
Genuinely Draft - Draft
Magic47 - Forgotten Ancient
jim robobo - RoboJ
AfrikaShoxx - tiesto
rattlemonster - Rman
Lyte Edge - the lyte edge
archie4208 - archie4208
ch1nchilla - ch1nchilla
Bacchus7 - MuffMuzzle
 
 


PSN ID - Username:
CurseoftheGods - CurseoftheGods
Y2Kevbug11 - y2kev
Linkzg64 - swaggaz
rattlemonster - Rman
Lyte Edge - the lyte edge

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Title: Re: PS3 version of Street Fighter IV gimped.
Post by: Jansen on February 01, 2009, 11:53:13 PM
sfags owned yet again
Title: Re: PS3 version of Street Fighter IV gimped.
Post by: Bebpo on February 02, 2009, 12:00:50 AM
How is it even possible to change resolutions on the fly mid-move...

This isn't surprising though considering how every Capcom game is noticeably worse on the PS3. 
Title: Re: PS3 version of Street Fighter IV gimped.
Post by: Jansen on February 02, 2009, 12:19:52 AM
doesn't wipeout hd change res on the fly?

http://insidethedigitalfoundry.blogspot.com/2008/09/wipeout-hds-1080p-sleight-of-hand.html

seems so

tho i won't believe this sfiv changing res business based on that dudes analysis
Title: Re: PS3 version of Street Fighter IV gimped.
Post by: Akala on February 02, 2009, 12:42:22 AM
BLUE SHADOWS!
Title: Re: PS3 version of Street Fighter IV gimped.
Post by: drohne on February 02, 2009, 12:49:15 AM
it's a conspiracy by peripheral manufacturers to make me buy ANOTHER FUCKING OVERPRICED JOYSTICK :maf
Title: Re: PS3 version of Street Fighter IV gimped.
Post by: demi on February 02, 2009, 12:53:09 AM
who cares, game is gonna bomb. pick your poison
Title: Re: PS3 version of Street Fighter IV gimped.
Post by: drohne on February 02, 2009, 12:57:13 AM
achievement whore scared of the real challenge posed by a hardcore competitive game :'(
Title: Re: PS3 version of Street Fighter IV gimped.
Post by: MCD on February 02, 2009, 12:59:15 AM
switching res on the fly...

kutaragi dreams in action.
Title: Re: PS3 version of Street Fighter IV gimped.
Post by: HyperZoneWasAwesome on February 02, 2009, 01:01:14 AM
this isn't surprising, but still dismaying.
is DMC4 the only Capcom PS3 game they haven't fucked up(at least not tech-wise)?
Title: Re: PS3 version of Street Fighter IV gimped.
Post by: pilonv1 on February 02, 2009, 01:14:12 AM
:lol ps3.
Title: Re: PS3 version of Street Fighter IV gimped.
Post by: bork on February 02, 2009, 01:27:37 AM
Has anyone confirmed that the res doesn't drop during ultras on the 360 version?

Also, does anyone really CARE?  This game's gonna be awesome no matter what you play it on.
Title: Re: PS3 version of Street Fighter IV gimped.
Post by: Bebpo on February 02, 2009, 01:28:06 AM
this isn't surprising, but still dismaying.
is DMC4 the only Capcom PS3 game they haven't fucked up(at least not tech-wise)?


DMC4 has blurring instead of AA on the PS3, whereas it has 2x AA on the X360.

I'm guessing RE5 will be the same.
Title: Re: PS3 version of Street Fighter IV gimped.
Post by: demi on February 02, 2009, 01:45:42 AM
achievement whore scared of the real challenge posed by a hardcore competitive game :'(

Nothing challenging about setting up ranked matches. I do it all the time when boosting. Owned? Seems so. Stratosphere level. See-ya. Buy a 360
Title: Re: PS3 version of Street Fighter IV gimped.
Post by: Jansen on February 02, 2009, 01:51:17 AM
re5 on ps3 is jagged up compared to the 360 version

just download the psn demo (on jpn psn now) and judge for yourself

Title: Re: PS3 version of Street Fighter IV gimped.
Post by: maxy on February 02, 2009, 02:01:45 AM
More like,PS3 is gimped
Title: Re: PS3 version of Street Fighter IV gimped.
Post by: Bebpo on February 02, 2009, 02:04:36 AM
re5 on ps3 is jagged up compared to the 360 version

just download the psn demo (on jpn psn now) and judge for yourself


It's the framework engine.  Every game on it will have 2x AA on X360 and temporal AA blurring on PS3.  Expect the same for LP2 & DR2
Title: Re: PS3 version of Street Fighter IV gimped.
Post by: dark1x on February 02, 2009, 07:53:16 AM
re5 on ps3 is jagged up compared to the 360 version

just download the psn demo (on jpn psn now) and judge for yourself


It's the framework engine.  Every game on it will have 2x AA on X360 and temporal AA blurring on PS3.  Expect the same for LP2 & DR2
Temporal AA isn't that bad, though.  It has its advantages and disadvantages.  Due to the lower framerate of games like RE5 (30 fps), you won't see any of that blurring that occurs while the objects are in motion (like DMC4).

I'm probably going to go with the 360 version of RE5, though, simply because it will allow for easier co-op play (due to VGA adapter for use on a PC display).
Title: Re: PS3 version of Street Fighter IV gimped.
Post by: WrikaWrek on February 02, 2009, 08:11:55 AM
Perfect Dark did motion blur AA. Great in motion.

Dog shit otherwise.
Title: Re: PS3 version of Street Fighter IV gimped.
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 02, 2009, 08:22:08 AM
Separating the wheat from the chaff. No excuses.
Title: Re: PS3 version of Street Fighter IV gimped.
Post by: cool breeze on February 02, 2009, 08:30:17 AM
I never had any doubt that 360 version would be better, but seriously now, sometimes you guys should read the thread that is linked. 
Title: Re: PS3 version of Street Fighter IV gimped.
Post by: tiesto on February 02, 2009, 08:56:03 AM
Not like I wasn't planning on buying the 360 version anyways...
Title: Re: PS3 version of Street Fighter IV gimped.
Post by: Sho Nuff on February 02, 2009, 10:37:32 AM
I don't think this game uses MT Framework though
Title: Re: PS3 version of Street Fighter IV gimped.
Post by: brawndolicious on February 02, 2009, 12:18:49 PM
Didn't Lost Planet on 360 actually use some sort of special AA to make it feel like 60 fps?
I don't think this game uses MT Framework though
why not?
Title: Re: PS3 version of Street Fighter IV gimped.
Post by: demi on February 02, 2009, 12:25:26 PM
Is it wrong of me to expect threads like this for every major multiplatform release?

Sony loooooooooooooosers
Title: Re: PS3 version of Street Fighter IV gimped.
Post by: y2kev on February 02, 2009, 12:29:10 PM
The B3D thread mentions it could be some overscan effect with the screenshot? The poster isn't conclusive.
Title: Re: PS3 version of Street Fighter IV gimped.
Post by: dark1x on February 02, 2009, 12:59:53 PM
Quote
Didn't Lost Planet on 360 actually use some sort of special AA to make it feel like 60 fps?
No, it did not.  It was locked at 30 fps max.  The PS3 version, however, was uncapped which allowed it to hit 60 fps at times.  This is what really hurt the PS3 version as its framerate seemed very unsteady, from what I witnessed.  The PS3 port was not too bad.

It didn't even look that bad (and even saw some slight improvements, such as the ice in the first pic below)...

(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a29/dark1x/LostPlanet5_jpg.jpg)
(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a29/dark1x/LostPlanet18_jpg.jpg)

It's still the worst version of the three (PC version = win)
Title: Re: PS3 version of Street Fighter IV gimped.
Post by: y2kev on February 02, 2009, 01:07:21 PM
I actually have played LP on PS3 and I thought it was good but I was afraid to say it because no one would believe me. :D

plus it was ported by tose or whatever
Title: Re: PS3 version of Street Fighter IV gimped.
Post by: Jansen on February 02, 2009, 01:44:16 PM
wow those ps3 lp pics look a lot better then the game actually does in motion

ps3 and jaggies go hand in hand
Title: Re: PS3 version of Street Fighter IV gimped.
Post by: Himu on February 02, 2009, 04:03:54 PM
ps3 has an actually decent d-pad so it's all good
Title: Re: PS3 version of Street Fighter IV gimped.
Post by: Enl on February 02, 2009, 04:16:25 PM
Ah but see the arcade version didn't have any AA so the PS3 version is the superior version since that was the way Jesus intended the game to be seen!

spoiler (click to show/hide)
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Title: Re: PS3 version of Street Fighter IV gimped.
Post by: bork on February 02, 2009, 04:58:43 PM
Lost Planet on PS3 is SHIT.   :yuck  Awful, inconsistent frame rate, which was so bad in multiplayer it made the game outright choppy. 
Title: Re: PS3 version of Street Fighter IV gimped.
Post by: bork on February 02, 2009, 04:59:29 PM
ps3 has an actually decent d-pad so it's all good

This is the stupidest reason to get the game on PS3 over 360.  If you want to play fighters properly, get a joystick or the controllers coming out.
Title: Re: PS3 version of Street Fighter IV gimped.
Post by: Himu on February 02, 2009, 05:15:10 PM
I prefer traditional controller over stick and I'm not paying that much money for a mad katz controller.
Title: Re: PS3 version of Street Fighter IV gimped.
Post by: bork on February 02, 2009, 05:15:57 PM
I prefer traditional controller over stick and I'm paying that money for a mad katz controller.

Well, good to see you're paying that money for the controller!   :lol
Title: Re: PS3 version of Street Fighter IV gimped.
Post by: Himu on February 02, 2009, 05:17:46 PM
I'm not buying a mad katz controller until I try it out for myself. That said, I'm tempted because it has 6 face buttons!
Title: Re: PS3 version of Street Fighter IV gimped.
Post by: Himu on February 02, 2009, 05:23:17 PM
This whole situation would be easily fixed if MS would put an actual d-pad on their controller and replace that...thing that's on their controller. That thing is like an analog stick with a weird ass shape. At the very least allow people to hook up USB controllers. I'd get a sega saturn usb controller and play it on 360, but noooooo.

MS sucks.
Title: Re: PS3 version of Street Fighter IV gimped.
Post by: Bebpo on February 02, 2009, 05:25:21 PM
ps3 has an actually decent d-pad so it's all good

This is the stupidest reason to get the game on PS3 over 360.  If you want to play fighters properly, get a joystick or the controllers coming out.

Eh, half the time I play VF5 or SF2 I just play with the DS3's d-pad because it works good enough and I'm too lazy to hook up another controller.

I can't say the same thing about when I play fighters on X360.  Always gotta go grab the stick.

If you aren't a super hardcore fighting game master, the PS3 d-pad is good enough to enjoy the games and win if you have decent skills.  It definitely is a good reason to go with the PS3 version for some games.  Surprisingly, I can play a damn mean Akira that's 99% accurate to my stick playing with the standard PS3 controller.
Title: Re: PS3 version of Street Fighter IV gimped.
Post by: Himu on February 02, 2009, 05:28:17 PM
D-pad rules. I'm way more comfortable with a d-pad. Sticks at home at blargh. Take too much room, have to sit in a specific posture to be even remotely comfortable, and because I travel every few months they are just troublesome.

Title: Re: PS3 version of SFIV gimped/~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: CurseoftheGods on February 02, 2009, 05:32:58 PM
can someone make a shitty banner so i can stick it in the op then we can all laugh and giggle and pee ourselves a little
Title: Re: PS3 version of SFIV gimped/~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Himu on February 02, 2009, 05:33:41 PM
the game is out in like 2 weeks

why do you need an SF4 thread already
Title: Re: PS3 version of SFIV gimped/~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: demi on February 02, 2009, 05:36:18 PM
shut up gaffer, its the SF4 thread
Title: Re: PS3 version of SFIV gimped/~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Himu on February 02, 2009, 05:37:30 PM
I wonder how Cammy will handle?

I roll Chun Li and Ken at the arcade but Cammy's always been my main in any SF she's in.
Title: Re: PS3 version of SFIV gimped/~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: CurseoftheGods on February 02, 2009, 05:44:11 PM
Cammy is good from what I've read on SRK. Hooligan Throw sucks as always, but her EX moves have good priority and she seems to be able to link Thrust Kicks by FADC as seen in the end of this video:

[youtube=560,345]USlroHmeRo0[/youtube]
Title: Re: PS3 version of SFIV gimped/~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Himu on February 02, 2009, 05:49:09 PM
Is she still able to go underneath projectiles if you time her half circle foreward + k move right? Also, that one move - i think it's half circle back + p? it's been a while - can go through hadoukens if you time it right in SFII and SFA games.

That's all I need to know.
Title: Re: PS3 version of SFIV gimped/~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Himu on February 02, 2009, 05:51:43 PM
[youtube=560,345]USlroHmeRo0[/youtube]

omg
Title: Re: PS3 version of SFIV gimped/~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: CurseoftheGods on February 02, 2009, 05:59:32 PM
Is she still able to go underneath projectiles if you time her half circle foreward + k move right? Also, that one move - i think it's half circle back + p? it's been a while - can go through hadoukens if you time it right in SFII and SFA games.

That's all I need to know.

Both of those moves go through fireballs when using the EX version (executing the move with two buttons), but I am not sure about the normal versions. If they did in Super Turbo I would imagine they would work like that in SFIV. It's fairly faithful to the original game.
Title: Re: PS3 version of SFIV gimped/~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Himu on February 02, 2009, 06:05:05 PM
omfggggggg
Title: Re: PS3 version of SFIV gimped/~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: demi on February 02, 2009, 06:10:33 PM
make one that says "its not KOF XII but it'll do, i guess"
Title: Re: PS3 version of SFIV gimped/~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: CurseoftheGods on February 02, 2009, 06:11:18 PM
lol perfect
Title: Re: PS3 version of SFIV gimped/~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Himu on February 02, 2009, 06:45:20 PM
:rofl

Boxer's chuckle :lol
Title: Re: PS3 version of SFIV gimped/~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: cool breeze on February 02, 2009, 07:09:41 PM
so who is getting it for what? I need to add the PS3 people, then potentially the 360 people if I double dip down the road
Title: Re: PS3 version of SFIV gimped/~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Ninja on February 02, 2009, 07:10:43 PM
I'm getting it on 360 at first. Might pick it up cheap on PS3 at some point down the line.

 :lol Awsome banner
Title: Re: PS3 version of SFIV gimped/~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: CurseoftheGods on February 02, 2009, 07:56:24 PM
so who is getting it for what? I need to add the PS3 people, then potentially the 360 people if I double dip down the road

Getting it for both. Add me. My tag is CurseoftheGods for both consoles. :)
Title: Re: PS3 version of SFIV gimped/~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: y2kev on February 02, 2009, 07:58:54 PM
Add me on PS3. Y2Kevbug11. I wanna play you, curse. :) And Swagz I've got you.
Title: Re: PS3 version of SFIV gimped/~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: CurseoftheGods on February 02, 2009, 07:59:47 PM
Add me on PS3. Y2Kevbug11. I wanna play you, curse. :) And Swagz I've got you.

Will add you when I get home tonight. :rock
Title: Re: PS3 version of SFIV gimped/~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Jansen on February 02, 2009, 08:08:42 PM
i'm buying the superior console version as usual
Title: Re: PS3 version of SFIV gimped/~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Bebpo on February 02, 2009, 08:38:13 PM
I'll go with the inferior version as usual.
Title: Re: PS3 version of SFIV gimped/~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on February 02, 2009, 08:41:37 PM
I'll get the version on the system that has the better version of that Genesis collection.
Title: Re: PS3 version of SFIV gimped/~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: cool breeze on February 02, 2009, 08:59:14 PM
has there been any word that the Genesis collection is messed up on one console?
Title: Re: PS3 version of SFIV gimped/~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Brehvolution on February 02, 2009, 09:31:16 PM
Jinfash :bow2
Title: Re: PS3 version of SFIV gimped/~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: CurseoftheGods on February 02, 2009, 09:32:17 PM
has there been any word that the Genesis collection is messed up on one console?

Nope.
Title: Re: PS3 version of SFIV gimped/~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 02, 2009, 09:46:56 PM
PS3 version for me.
Title: Re: PS3 version of SFIV gimped/~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: y2kev on February 02, 2009, 09:52:55 PM
PS3 version for me.
addme
Title: Re: PS3 version of SFIV gimped/~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: demi on February 02, 2009, 09:55:52 PM
"add me" they all chime

"let's play!" come release

the crickets echo...
Title: Re: PS3 version of SFIV gimped/~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on February 02, 2009, 09:58:39 PM
Jinfash, you should make him wink Mike Tyson style
Title: Re: PS3 version of SFIV gimped/~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Draft on February 02, 2009, 10:00:37 PM
Xbox version of course.

GT: Genuinely Draft
Title: Re: PS3 version of SFIV gimped/~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Bebpo on February 02, 2009, 10:22:11 PM
"add me" they all chime

"let's play!" come release

the crickets echo...

Yep...

//Wipeout HD ;_;
Title: Re: PS3 version of SFIV gimped/~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: cool breeze on February 02, 2009, 10:29:37 PM
"add me" they all chime

"let's play!" come release

the crickets echo...

Yep...

//Wipeout HD ;_;

hey, it was 1 am on Sunday and I had to write some papers for class the next day (plus get my sleep pattern back on track).  Did any J-bore people ever show up? if not, bump the time down a bit and I'm up for it.  I do apologize for being on the maybe and not showing up, but I was sleeping at that time.
Title: Re: PS3 version of SFIV gimped/~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Bebpo on February 02, 2009, 10:51:25 PM
No one showed except duckman, who is actually good and I never saw him after the start line...lol

But yeah, if we try again, let's just do a weeknight when USA people are home.  Maybe we'll actually get 4 people then.  :\
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 02, 2009, 11:28:24 PM
I still think there are going to be a number of people who are not going to like this game, or at least be disappointed.  If you really like what 3rd Strike did and don't feel you can go back to the older games, SF4 is not going to be for you.

Personally I prefer the older SFs to SF3, so I'm all over this, although I never played the arcade version much due to the roster; I like the number of characters that have been added to the home version, but am still disappointed in the new characters (and lack thereof).  Abel is cool as hell, and C. Viper seems okay, but El Fuerte was "meh" and Rufus' design is god-awful.  See Bob in Tekken 6 for how to make a cool fat dude.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Grecco on February 02, 2009, 11:39:27 PM
360 version here. Gotta get me one of those te sticks somehow too
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Enl on February 02, 2009, 11:47:58 PM
I still think there are going to be a number of people who are not going to like this game, or at least be disappointed.  If you really like what 3rd Strike did and don't feel you can go back to the older games, SF4 is not going to be for you.

I think if I'm going any problems with the game it will probaly stem from being so used to SSF2THDR now.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Bebpo on February 03, 2009, 12:19:53 AM
I still think there are going to be a number of people who are not going to like this game, or at least be disappointed.  If you really like what 3rd Strike did and don't feel you can go back to the older games, SF4 is not going to be for you.

Personally I prefer the older SFs to SF3, so I'm all over this, although I never played the arcade version much due to the roster; I like the number of characters that have been added to the home version, but am still disappointed in the new characters (and lack thereof).  Abel is cool as hell, and C. Viper seems okay, but El Fuerte was "meh" and Rufus' design is god-awful.  See Bob in Tekken 6 for how to make a cool fat dude.

I'm going to be disappointed because it's not VF5-R and because there aren't 8,000 item pieces to unlock for my characters.  But I'll live with what it is.

God I hope R gets a home port announced soon.  I need more VF in my blood.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Robo on February 03, 2009, 12:23:05 AM
I'm down for the superior version.  GT: "jim robobo"
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 03, 2009, 12:32:39 AM
I still think there are going to be a number of people who are not going to like this game, or at least be disappointed.  If you really like what 3rd Strike did and don't feel you can go back to the older games, SF4 is not going to be for you.

Personally I prefer the older SFs to SF3, so I'm all over this, although I never played the arcade version much due to the roster; I like the number of characters that have been added to the home version, but am still disappointed in the new characters (and lack thereof).  Abel is cool as hell, and C. Viper seems okay, but El Fuerte was "meh" and Rufus' design is god-awful.  See Bob in Tekken 6 for how to make a cool fat dude.

I'm going to be disappointed because it's not VF5-R and because there aren't 8,000 item pieces to unlock for my characters.  But I'll live with what it is.

God I hope R gets a home port announced soon.  I need more VF in my blood.

Get this VF talk outta this thread! 
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: drew on February 03, 2009, 12:33:52 AM
im so buying this

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Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: drohne on February 03, 2009, 05:23:24 AM
yes but does the 360 version have THIS

(http://xs136.xs.to/xs136/09062/1998.jpg)
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 03, 2009, 06:47:58 AM
i thought about buying this, but then i realized i'd be better off just handing that $60 to someone and letting them beat my ass for real
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: tiesto on February 03, 2009, 08:54:47 AM
360 version here - gamertag: "AfrikaShoxx"

Thinking about the MadCatz pad, I didn't like the PS2/Xbox SF pads very much, so I'm a bit wary about this one. Gonna wait for impressions first.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Himu on February 03, 2009, 01:03:16 PM
Yeah i prefer SF4 to SF3 as well. SF3 is good but..I don't have nearly as much playing that than Super Street Fighter II Turbo or any of the Alpha games.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 03, 2009, 01:04:35 PM
360 version here - gamertag: "AfrikaShoxx"

Thinking about the MadCatz pad, I didn't like the PS2/Xbox SF pads very much, so I'm a bit wary about this one. Gonna wait for impressions first.

These are different pads though.  Nyko made the previous ones, these are supposed to be MUCH better from all accounts. 
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: GilloD on February 03, 2009, 04:27:57 PM
Are there hidden characters? Real endings? Blanka? I might rent this
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: CurseoftheGods on February 03, 2009, 04:56:35 PM
Are there hidden characters? Real endings? Blanka? I might rent this

Yes to all.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Reb on February 03, 2009, 05:00:17 PM
I'm so tempted to buy the CE, with one of those pads, because it's awesome. But I know I won't play it for more than an hour, because boy do I suck at SF!
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Robo on February 03, 2009, 05:00:25 PM
Speaking of hidden characters, was there any word on whether or not Gouken or Seth would be balanced with the rest of the roster or if they're just playable Gill-like characters?  I saw a video on Gametrailers where Gouken connects a Shin Shoryuken type of thing off a throw for huge damage, but it is his ultra combo, so I don't really know what to think of that.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Himu on February 03, 2009, 05:03:02 PM
who's hidden in the console version
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Robo on February 03, 2009, 05:06:55 PM
From the wikipedia page: Dan, Fei-Long, Sakura, Cammy, Gen, Rose, Akuma, Gouken and Seth are all unlocked after completing the game.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 03, 2009, 05:07:50 PM
RoboJ, I'd take that with a grain of salt.  They all look to be available from the start.

Speaking of hidden characters, was there any word on whether or not Gouken or Seth would be balanced with the rest of the roster or if they're just playable Gill-like characters?  I saw a video on Gametrailers where Gouken connects a Shin Shoryuken type of thing off a throw for huge damage, but it is his ultra combo, so I don't really know what to think of that.

AFAIK they have been fully balanced.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Robo on February 03, 2009, 05:15:46 PM
RoboJ, I'd take that with a grain of salt.  They all look to be available from the start.

Speaking of hidden characters, was there any word on whether or not Gouken or Seth would be balanced with the rest of the roster or if they're just playable Gill-like characters?  I saw a video on Gametrailers where Gouken connects a Shin Shoryuken type of thing off a throw for huge damage, but it is his ultra combo, so I don't really know what to think of that.

AFAIK they have been fully balanced.

That's good.  I doubt I'll play either of them, but the extra variety is welcome.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Cheebs on February 03, 2009, 05:46:02 PM
I still think there are going to be a number of people who are not going to like this game, or at least be disappointed.  If you really like what 3rd Strike did and don't feel you can go back to the older games, SF4 is not going to be for you.

Personally I prefer the older SFs to SF3, so I'm all over this, although I never played the arcade version much due to the roster; I like the number of characters that have been added to the home version, but am still disappointed in the new characters (and lack thereof).  Abel is cool as hell, and C. Viper seems okay, but El Fuerte was "meh" and Rufus' design is god-awful.  See Bob in Tekken 6 for how to make a cool fat dude.

I'm going to be disappointed because it's not VF5-R and because there aren't 8,000 item pieces to unlock for my characters.  But I'll live with what it is.

God I hope R gets a home port announced soon.  I need more VF in my blood.
Didn't  VF5 pretty much bomb compared to 4? That may be why Sega hasn't released 5R.




And I'll be getting this on PS3, my PSN is Cheebs86
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 04, 2009, 05:12:18 AM
RoboJ, I'd take that with a grain of salt.  They all look to be available from the start.

Speaking of hidden characters, was there any word on whether or not Gouken or Seth would be balanced with the rest of the roster or if they're just playable Gill-like characters?  I saw a video on Gametrailers where Gouken connects a Shin Shoryuken type of thing off a throw for huge damage, but it is his ultra combo, so I don't really know what to think of that.

AFAIK they have been fully balanced.

That's good.  I doubt I'll play either of them, but the extra variety is welcome.

I very much plan on checking EVERYONE out.  In the arcade version, I wasn't really feeling my-normally main character, Chun-Li (similar to 3rd Strike...she may be god-tier in that game, but man is she BORING), and settled on Zangief (who I also like to use), but no one hit me as someone I'd want to main, so I'm looking forward to checking out all the home additions.  Will give Chunz another chance too.  I'm probably gonna use just about everybody except for Dhalsim and Vega anyway.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Ninja on February 04, 2009, 09:16:33 AM
What do you guys make of the DLC?

A new pack every week for 5 weeks, 400Y on PSN, 320MSP(~470Y)

Grapplers Pack - Zangief, E Honda, Rufus, Abel, El Fuerte (Feb 12)
Beauty Pack - Chun Li, C.Viper, Sakura, Rose, Cammy (Feb 19)
Shoryuken Pack - Ryu, Ken, Akuma, Gouken, Dan (Feb 26)
Shadoloo Pack - Dictator, Sagat, Claw, Boxer, Seth (March 5)
Classic Pack - Guile, Blanka, Dhalsim, Gen, Fei Long (March 12)
All-In Pack - Get everyone at a discount (1000 MS Points; available from April 30th)

All unlock-keys, what really pisses me off is having to wait until April to get them all at a discount.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: CurseoftheGods on February 04, 2009, 09:41:04 AM
All-In Pack should have been there from the first day. What a pile of horse shit.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Reb on February 04, 2009, 09:47:04 AM
What do you unlock with the DLC?
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: trh on February 04, 2009, 10:09:31 AM
Skins, I think?
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: archie4208 on February 04, 2009, 10:31:34 AM
What do you unlock with the DLC?

Apollo Creed outfit for Balrog. :drool
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Himu on February 04, 2009, 01:44:56 PM
I WANT YOU

omg Archie you're a genius
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Grecco on February 04, 2009, 01:47:45 PM
All-In Pack should have been there from the first day. What a pile of horse ARMOR shit.

yup. Not interested in the dlc. Ripoff city total till April
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 04, 2009, 01:56:29 PM
It's yet another company getting greedy with DLC.  Except that this is NOT DLC, it's just Capcom charging money for UNLOCK KEYS.  These outfits are all already in the game, this is major bullshit.  It's not going to cost too much overall, sure, but it wasn't needed.  They are already offering an LE version for $20 more!  It's Soul Calibur IV all over again.  At least there's no exclusive 360 or PS3-onlytime-release unlock-key characters in this title.

They should have offered additional outfits not found in the arcade version (or a third for everyone) instead of this.  But I'm a sucker and I will pay them for these outfits, and the cycle will continue.    :-\
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Himu on February 04, 2009, 02:01:58 PM
That's bullshit. One of my favorite things to do in these games is unlock shit. That's why SFA3's so damn fun on single player.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 04, 2009, 02:36:40 PM
That's bullshit. One of my favorite things to do in these games is unlock shit. That's why SFA3's so damn fun on single player.

Unlocking shit in fighting games SUCKS.  It should be there from the start; the point of these games is MULTIPLAYER.  I hate it when 3D fighting games in particular make you go through the routine task of beating the arcade mode with every character just to unlock the rest.  This really stinks when you get a brand new fighter and have to go through the bullshit before you have what is essentially the complete game ready to play.  Stuff like endings and extra outfits, however, I don't mind, but when SF4 comes out for example, I'm jumping into multiplayer immediately.  With online play the standard now, there's no point in playing single player anymore.  It's always better against a human opponent.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Himu on February 04, 2009, 02:37:30 PM
Well, I love shit like quest mode in VF4 and VF5. that shit is fucking fun, especially if you set it on the hardest mode and go to the hardest fucking arcade there is. :punch
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 04, 2009, 02:44:58 PM
With VF4 you're stuck offline.  With VF5?  Assuming you have the good version, you get online and play.  Because that's where the challenge is.  That's what these games were made for; single player is of course good for practice, but if you actually want to get good at fighting games, you need human opponents.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 04, 2009, 04:08:42 PM
What do you guys make of the DLC?

A new pack every week for 5 weeks, 400Y on PSN, 320MSP(~470Y)

Grapplers Pack - Zangief, E Honda, Rufus, Abel, El Fuerte (Feb 12)
Beauty Pack - Chun Li, C.Viper, Sakura, Rose, Cammy (Feb 19)
Shoryuken Pack - Ryu, Ken, Akuma, Gouken, Dan (Feb 26)
Shadoloo Pack - Dictator, Sagat, Claw, Boxer, Seth (March 5)
Classic Pack - Guile, Blanka, Dhalsim, Gen, Fei Long (March 12)
All-In Pack - Get everyone at a discount (1000 MS Points; available from April 30th)

All unlock-keys, what really pisses me off is having to wait until April to get them all at a discount.


what is in these packs?
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: demi on February 04, 2009, 04:09:44 PM
Skins
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: demi on February 04, 2009, 04:10:40 PM
(http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/kotaku/2009/02/costumepack_sf4.jpg)
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 04, 2009, 04:53:24 PM
who wants to start up an eb sf4 group where we can get together and just have fun sucking at this game instead of worrying about the length of our gamedicks
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 04, 2009, 05:01:56 PM
"Skins" is about right.  These are just the alternate outfits for each character.  The kind of thing that has been standard in every polygon fighter from day one...now has to be purchased.  Forget SMH, this is ULTRA-HOMO.

I love the apologist defense of this: "Well, in the arcade version you have to spend a ton of money to get these!"  Hey distinguished mentally-challenged fellow, in the arcade version, you don't have to PAY to OWN the game first.  And you don't technically have to spend a lot of money if you don't suck shit...you get points for winning matches, you use the points to buy custom colors and the alternate outfits for your character.  This is how the home version should be, but instead we have them making us pay real money if we want those outfits.  And that is awful any way you slice it.

KOF XII won't do this.   ;)
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 04, 2009, 05:02:54 PM
i used to be pretty good but i'll play you

i can trash talk and/or play nice, your call

maf's a friendly and non-competitive soul even though he's pretty good at 2d fighters, i'll ask him
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: demi on February 04, 2009, 05:03:17 PM
who wants to start up an eb sf4 group where we can get together and just have fun sucking at this game instead of worrying about the length of our gamedicks

Maybe when KOF XII is out.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 04, 2009, 05:04:11 PM
:bow demi :bow2
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: demi on February 04, 2009, 05:07:26 PM
I regularly play third strike against one of the best players in the world.  Imma have him sign into my xbox and destroy people :punch

Sorry loser, Golds only
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 04, 2009, 05:57:12 PM
i used to be pretty good but i'll play you

i can trash talk and/or play nice, your call

maf's a friendly and non-competitive soul even though he's pretty good at 2d fighters, i'll ask him

i don't mind trash talk amongst friends, my friends and i were pretty merciless towards each other way back when

i used to be okay at sf2 on genesis, but i never played much sf beyond that, and these hands don't coordinate with these eyes like they used to

as long as i can occasionally squeak in a win i won't always be thinking about all the other games i could have spent $60 on
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 04, 2009, 06:08:37 PM
I'm always up for playing with anyone.

The good thing about SF4 is that it's a brand-new game.  That is to say, it's not the third version of a previous Street Fighter, just with online added, like 3rd Strike was, but one that goes back and starts over again from scratch.  Most people outside of Japan haven't even played it before, so there will be plenty of newbies out there, and if you start on it right at release, you'll get good faster than you think by learning with everyone else.

Playing HD Remix now might also make for good practice.   :)
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 04, 2009, 06:11:24 PM
sounds good, i wanted to buy this but i had the feeling it might turn into one of those games where i couldn't ever wear a headset

because i would be embarrassed by the steady stream of profanity coming from my own mouth at being perfected by tweeners over and over again
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 04, 2009, 07:30:47 PM
sounds good, i wanted to buy this but i had the feeling it might turn into one of those games where i couldn't ever wear a headset

because i would be embarrassed by the steady stream of profanity coming from my own mouth at being perfected by tweeners over and over again

You don't need a headset when you play a fighting game.  Just about anyone serious isn't going to use one anyway.  I only put one on when I'm playing with people I know on occasion.  Most Capcom online fighters even have an option to find or create matches with headsets turned off.  In HD Remix, you'll likely wait a good while to find a match against someone who wants to use a mic versus almost-instantly getting a match with someone who has that option turned off.

Only the garbage use headsets and trash-talk.  This can be added amusement if you are good, because then you can destroy the other player and laugh at them basically pissing themselves over getting owned.   :lol  A lot of the garbage players also tend to quit fighting games out of frustration within the first few weeks anyway.  Give the game a month and the riff raff will be cleaned out.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: CurseoftheGods on February 04, 2009, 07:46:05 PM
If you guys wanna post your gamertags and what system you'll be playing on, I'll compile it all and put in a list in the OP.

I also want to do an EB tourny if there's enough interest. Let me know what you gays think. 
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: cool breeze on February 04, 2009, 08:13:22 PM
swaggaz - PSN ID: Linkzg64
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Rman on February 04, 2009, 08:15:45 PM
I'll be getting both versions:

PSN: rattlemonster
XBL: rattlemonster
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 04, 2009, 08:45:33 PM
i am undecided as to what system
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 04, 2009, 09:12:28 PM
Get it on 360, Eel.  I have Soul Calibur IV, HD Remix, and Battle Fantasia on both systems, and I have found that online connections are typically better on 360, plus there's always a shitload more players.  In Capcom's case, if HD Remix is anything to go by, you're gonna want the 360 version since the online won't be as fucked up.  I'd also highly recommend springing for either the fight pad or a stick no matter which system you go with.

XBL: Lyte Edge
PSN: Lyte Edge
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 04, 2009, 09:22:57 PM
i'm only considering the PS3 version because some rl friends are getting it on that system

Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: archie4208 on February 04, 2009, 09:23:54 PM
xbl: archie4208.  I'm also down for some HDR if anyone wants to play that.  I can't do shit with anyone but Honda until I get my TE stick, though.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: CurseoftheGods on February 04, 2009, 10:43:32 PM
[youtube=560,345]D76cWCxFwsY[/youtube]

Ryu is so overpowered.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Robo on February 04, 2009, 10:50:49 PM
I don't see anything particularly "overpowered" in that video.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: CurseoftheGods on February 04, 2009, 11:00:28 PM
Look around the 1:00 mark (how one Ultra "canceled" the one before it, even though it was performed afterwards). Ryu's Ultra has invincible frames.

Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Robo on February 04, 2009, 11:05:53 PM
I noticed that, but the other guy is doing a fireball super on wake-up, which is just kind of dumb/desperate anyway.

Funniest thing about it is that it sounds like he performs the motion for the super AFTER that stupid animation and still manages to stuff it, so it's not even like it was a lucky guess, but I bet that's possible with just about anyone provided they have a few frames of invincibility at the start-up.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Grecco on February 04, 2009, 11:06:21 PM
I read in the gaf thread that Guile was low tier or something that made me sad.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Robo on February 04, 2009, 11:08:31 PM
tiers  ::)
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: drohne on February 05, 2009, 02:46:40 AM
guile seems pretty awful from what i've played and seen -- flashkick priority is poor, range on his normals is gimped, his super and ultra are just about useless. he's my hd remix main and i would've liked to play him in sf4, but using a really weak character is like running uphill. i'm gonna whore out sagat or ryu like everybody else -- already preparing on hd remix
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 05, 2009, 08:03:56 AM
Last time I checked, the top tiers were Ryu, Sagat, and Zangief.  The latter was also ranked the highest on the win lists (from a guild called "Red Cyclone-- awesome!) at one point.

I don't see the point in worrying about who is the best just yet though.  Between the home version having a bunch more characters and possible tweaks/changes from the arcade version, no one has any fucking idea right now.  Use who you like.  No one expected Rufus to be any good, but there are players out there who can destroy everyone else with him.  IIRC several tournaments have also been won by players using other characters.  I think a Honda player even chumped everyone.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Himu on February 05, 2009, 11:05:09 AM
tiers  ::)

agreed  ::)
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 05, 2009, 11:21:14 AM
S'good to know who is dominate so you can learn the best ways to deal with them.   ;)
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Grecco on February 05, 2009, 11:36:37 AM
guile seems pretty awful from what i've played and seen -- flashkick priority is poor, range on his normals is gimped, his super and ultra are just about useless. he's my hd remix main and i would've liked to play him in sf4, but using a really weak character is like running uphill. i'm gonna whore out sagat or ryu like everybody else -- already preparing on hd remix

Guile is also my HD Remix main. And every previous SF where Guile has been. But im gonna start using Gief now. Hes pretty decent in Remix already.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Himu on February 05, 2009, 02:07:47 PM
S'good to know who is dominate so you can learn the best ways to deal with them.   ;)

I agree with that, but when you got the same people using the same characters like you see with MvC2 or SF3, it gets so boring.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: drew on February 05, 2009, 02:20:40 PM
guilefags smh

i hate guile
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Himu on February 05, 2009, 02:21:35 PM
same
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Grecco on February 05, 2009, 02:41:14 PM
guilefags smh

i hate guile

pftt are you a shotofag?
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Robo on February 05, 2009, 02:51:17 PM
S'good to know who is dominate so you can learn the best ways to deal with them.   ;)

It's good to learn the best ways to deal with anyone and everyone, dominant or not.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 05, 2009, 03:55:49 PM
RoboJ, that's a given too!

S'good to know who is dominate so you can learn the best ways to deal with them.   ;)

I agree with that, but when you got the same people using the same characters like you see with MvC2 or SF3, it gets so boring.

I have played plenty of people in those games that use all the characters.  Just because people play them in tourneys, which then inspires a small few to treat said players like gods and their play styles as the gospel doesn't mean you have to.

The point is to learn to deal with the standard bread n' butter stuff quick so you can own the "boring" players left and right, and/or force them to change up what they are doing.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Bebpo on February 05, 2009, 04:00:49 PM
The number of people for whom tiers means shit in top flight fighting games is so small that it shouldn't detract anyone from using certain characters.

This is actually very true.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: cool breeze on February 05, 2009, 04:01:48 PM
I always pick random.  Real men are fit to deal with any situation thrown at them.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 05, 2009, 04:08:53 PM
:bow swaggaz :bow2

:bow Gitaroo-Man :bow2

:piss Ouendan :piss2

The number of people for whom tiers means shit in top flight fighting games is so small that it shouldn't detract anyone from using certain characters.

I just said this!  :lol
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Himu on February 05, 2009, 04:15:23 PM
Well, I guess it's like that at my arcade back home. Back when MvC2 was hot stuff, EVERYONE ONLY played as Storm, Megneto, Cable, or Ryu. Now we don't do that when we do it personally, in a buddy's home or whatever. But dammit if I haven't been exposed to folks that cling to that tier shit in the past.

And yes, random is the shit. I love you Swaggaz. You play Gitaroo Man psp?
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: archie4208 on February 05, 2009, 04:43:49 PM
My low tier Honda is gonna destroy in SF4.  8)
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: cool breeze on February 05, 2009, 04:49:40 PM
Well, I guess it's like that at my arcade back home. Back when MvC2 was hot stuff, EVERYONE ONLY played as Storm, Megneto, Cable, or Ryu. Now we don't do that when we do it personally, in a buddy's home or whatever. But dammit if I haven't been exposed to folks that cling to that tier shit in the past.

And yes, random is the shit. I love you Swaggaz. You play Gitaroo Man psp?

yeah, I have Gitaroo Man for PSP and PS2.  I actually prefer it on PSP because the nub seems to fit the gameplay more to me. 
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Enl on February 05, 2009, 06:07:46 PM
My low tier Honda is gonna destroy in SF4.  8)

I take it they didn't add the jab torpedo move that they added in SSF2HDR. I really liked that addition.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 05, 2009, 06:12:44 PM
My low tier Honda is gonna destroy in SF4.  8)

I take it they didn't add the jab torpedo move that they added in SSF2HDR. I really liked that addition.

You got focus attacks, everyone can "parry" projectiles anyway.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Himu on February 05, 2009, 06:25:20 PM
Well, I guess it's like that at my arcade back home. Back when MvC2 was hot stuff, EVERYONE ONLY played as Storm, Megneto, Cable, or Ryu. Now we don't do that when we do it personally, in a buddy's home or whatever. But dammit if I haven't been exposed to folks that cling to that tier shit in the past.

And yes, random is the shit. I love you Swaggaz. You play Gitaroo Man psp?

yeah, I have Gitaroo Man for PSP and PS2.  I actually prefer it on PSP because the nub seems to fit the gameplay more to me. 

Have the ps2 version, haven't played the psp version...is the nub really that good?
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: cool breeze on February 05, 2009, 06:28:54 PM
Well, I guess it's like that at my arcade back home. Back when MvC2 was hot stuff, EVERYONE ONLY played as Storm, Megneto, Cable, or Ryu. Now we don't do that when we do it personally, in a buddy's home or whatever. But dammit if I haven't been exposed to folks that cling to that tier shit in the past.

And yes, random is the shit. I love you Swaggaz. You play Gitaroo Man psp?

yeah, I have Gitaroo Man for PSP and PS2.  I actually prefer it on PSP because the nub seems to fit the gameplay more to me. 

Have the ps2 version, haven't played the psp version...is the nub really that good?

It's probably the only game that I prefer playing with the nub since you're sliding it around in a differently the directions all the time instead of leaning.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 05, 2009, 06:32:08 PM
i'm getting pretty pumped for this

what's the best pad to buy
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Himu on February 05, 2009, 06:32:56 PM
Well, I guess it's like that at my arcade back home. Back when MvC2 was hot stuff, EVERYONE ONLY played as Storm, Megneto, Cable, or Ryu. Now we don't do that when we do it personally, in a buddy's home or whatever. But dammit if I haven't been exposed to folks that cling to that tier shit in the past.

And yes, random is the shit. I love you Swaggaz. You play Gitaroo Man psp?

yeah, I have Gitaroo Man for PSP and PS2.  I actually prefer it on PSP because the nub seems to fit the gameplay more to me. 

Have the ps2 version, haven't played the psp version...is the nub really that good?

It's probably the only game that I prefer playing with the nub since you're sliding it around in a differently the directions all the time instead of leaning.

Yeah I can see that. Gitaroo Man on normal on ps2 is doable. But hard mode is wtf. How is the psp's version hard mode?
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Robo on February 05, 2009, 06:42:49 PM
My low tier Honda is gonna destroy in SF4.  8)

I take it they didn't add the jab torpedo move that they added in SSF2HDR. I really liked that addition.

You got focus attacks, everyone can "parry" projectiles anyway.

Speaking of which, that Korean Ryu player made those focus attacks appear to be a bit abusable.  What's the risk involved with using one?
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 05, 2009, 06:46:43 PM
so i guess 360, since everyone is getting it on that

i dunno about all that dlc costume bullshit, though, or buying a pad
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: cool breeze on February 05, 2009, 06:57:31 PM
Yeah I can see that. Gitaroo Man on normal on ps2 is doable. But hard mode is wtf. How is the psp's version hard mode?

fine

i'm getting pretty pumped for this

what's the best pad to buy

on 360 the only real pad to buy is the mad catz SF4 one

on PS3, the mad catz SF4 one or a USB Saturn pad
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: pilonv1 on February 05, 2009, 07:01:40 PM
ffs play asia wont let me order an akuma 360 pad :(

might get the ken one
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 05, 2009, 07:02:36 PM
do you get free shit anywhere if you preorder this
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Akala on February 05, 2009, 07:07:06 PM
A bandanna at Gamestop.  :lol
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 05, 2009, 07:24:55 PM
will everyone bandanasize their avatars at gaf i wonder

spoiler (click to show/hide)
i don't wonder
[close]
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 05, 2009, 08:18:15 PM
Looks like Wikipedia was right; this screen shows ALL the extra characters (including Akuma who was time-released in the arcade version) missing from the select screen.  So it's gonna be Tekken-style unlocking, huh?   :-\

http://www.the-magicbox.com/0902/sf447.jpg
(http://www.the-magicbox.com/0902/sf447.jpg)


Speaking of which, that Korean Ryu player made those focus attacks appear to be a bit abusable.  What's the risk involved with using one?

Those guys were good.  From my experience, it was pretty easy to miss your opponent when going for a stronger focus attack (the longer you hold the buttons down, the stronger it gets) or simply predict they will do the wrong move and leave yourself wide open.  You can do some cool stuff with this system...even cancel attacks INTO the focus attacks (which uses some of your super meter)!  It's gonna be weird trying to readjust to this after playing so much of HD Remix.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: hyp on February 05, 2009, 10:33:58 PM
preordered.  360 version.  let's do this.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: drohne on February 05, 2009, 10:36:01 PM
Looks like Wikipedia was right; this screen shows ALL the extra characters (including Akuma who was time-released in the arcade version) missing from the select screen.  So it's gonna be Tekken-style unlocking, huh?   :-\

BOO

who the hell wants to play singleplayer in a fighter with online play
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Himu on February 06, 2009, 12:49:09 AM
Groo, you're a Cammy man?

:tauntaun
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Cheebs on February 06, 2009, 01:08:59 PM
Cammy :bow She is my main outside of Ryu.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Beezy on February 06, 2009, 01:12:45 PM
How is thunder thighs supposed to be in this game?
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: archie4208 on February 06, 2009, 01:17:38 PM
Gamestop is already shipping TE sticks.  Amazon buyers owned. :(
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Robo on February 06, 2009, 01:30:26 PM
 :o

I ordered mine from Gamecrazy. :(
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 06, 2009, 03:15:45 PM
GameCrazy :rock

Did you do at my location, RoboJ? :lol
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Robo on February 06, 2009, 03:21:58 PM
Naw, I made the order at the Hagerstown location.  One of my good friends manages that store, and I'll be the area that week.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 06, 2009, 03:46:47 PM
Unloyalist jerk!

They just added the Hagerstown location to our district on the video-side. The dame that runs it is pretty rad.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 06, 2009, 05:31:08 PM
Notice to anyone who has the Asian version pre-ordered at Play-Asia-- it's been delayed to 2/17.    So if you want it next week, you gotta spring for the Japanese version.  I need this game ASAP and already changed my order.   :-[

Gamestop is already shipping TE sticks.  Amazon buyers owned. :(

Gamestop is shipping both sticks AND the pads already.  Best Buy has also put out the pads for sale in some locations, but the one near me didn't have them.

The problem with Gamestop is that they are allocating the pads RANDOMLY, so if you want a certain character pad, you're outta luck.  I'm gonna try another store or two tomorrow maybe, but I have a pad for each system pre-ordered at Amazon just in case.  And hey, they might start shipping them earlier than the 20th anyway.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Grecco on February 06, 2009, 06:11:31 PM
Someone needs to buy a pad and give us the low down to see if they are worth it

Also are Best buys getting the TE sticks? (BM?)
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 06, 2009, 06:14:08 PM
No idea about the sticks.  If you want the $150 TE Stick, you're outta luck anyway.  They're gone, but I think more are supposed to be coming in March or April.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Grecco on February 06, 2009, 06:18:13 PM
 :( I was hoping Best Buy would get some sticks at bm stores for guys like me who didnt preorder

Gamestop has the Hori fight sticks at 39.99 (the ones with DOA/SC ect) but everybody says those suck. So i dont know what to do. Might just buy one of those pads till the seccond wave of TE sticks hit stores.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Ninja on February 06, 2009, 09:28:54 PM
Gamestop shipped my TE Stick. :D Hype is now at critical mass.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: drohne on February 06, 2009, 09:35:23 PM
Pardon my ignorance but has there been any information regarding how solid the console port's netcode is?

there have been some rumblings on gaf that it's very good, though i don't know what their ultimate source is
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on February 06, 2009, 09:56:52 PM
I'll get this for $20 six months from now.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Himu on February 06, 2009, 10:56:38 PM
How is thunder thighs supposed to be in this game?

I play with her at the arcade.

She's fun as fuck I think.

Pardon my ignorance but has there been any information regarding how solid the console port's netcode is?

there have been some rumblings on gaf that it's very good, though i don't know what their ultimate source is

what about the ps3 version's netcode

Cammy :bow She is my main outside of Ryu.

She's my main outside Ken and Chun Li.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 06, 2009, 11:19:30 PM
Nobody's gonna know what the netcode is really like until it's out and shitloads of people are playing.

About Chun-Li?  I think this pretty much answers it!

[youtube=560,345]e42UQy9vNKE[/youtube]
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 06, 2009, 11:26:42 PM
Quote from: tapedeck
MEGATON UPDATE

First off, let me go on record as saying I was wrong and those who said the game wasnt dated were right....

Ok, I checked RSS again at work to verify if we (bestbuy) still had a street date for sfiv, since everyone was saying there wasnt one. Two days ago the system said 2/18 was the sell date, I typed in skus for the standard and CE today and....THERE IS NO LONGER A SELL DATE! If no date is linked to the SKU the best buy registers will let employees ring out the game with no street date block that requires an override. \o/

My advice is to start checking stores around the 10th because thats when our shipment is arriving.

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

 :o

They were selling those pads before Gamestop got them in!
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Grecco on February 06, 2009, 11:44:31 PM
Thats for the game?

your best bet is Sears. They get the game waaaaaay earlyer

For instance they had copies of Fable 2 more than a week before street date. I almost was able to buy one too but their computer was taged with the sd. If SF has no street date ill be stopping by Sears on Tuesday to pick up a copy

I still want a TE Stick :(
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Himu on February 06, 2009, 11:48:03 PM
BUY THIS GAME

I really hope this game sells like 12 million copies ;(
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 07, 2009, 02:10:19 AM
I might try Sears, then.  Although I haven't SEEN one of those stores in years and years.   :lol
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 07, 2009, 05:38:51 PM
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3406/3260761551_0ea2e08e17.jpg)

Scored one at a Gamestop that was about 30 miles away...only one in the whole city that had some, WTF?  They had this Ryu pad and a Blanka pad, both for 360.  I'm going to try Best Buy again tomorrow and see if I can find a Chun-Li pad, but if not this will hold me until Amazon starts shipping them out.

FWIW a Gamestop manager I spoke to said he expected them to be in all the stores on Monday.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: cool breeze on February 07, 2009, 05:46:59 PM
please give some impressions of it when using as a normal controller.  Everyone seems obsessed with the D-pad not being as good as the Saturn one, and I realize that, but my main purpose was to use it as my emulation controller.  I think the L/R buttons to also be good, except no one talks about them.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 07, 2009, 07:15:11 PM
Gets a THUMBS-UP from me.  Do I think it's as good as a Saturn pad?  Time's gonna tell on that, right now I'd say the Saturn pad is better, but this thing is NICE.  I plugged it in and immediately got a winning streak in HD Remix.   :lol  It's got a good feel, plus rubber grips on the sides so it doesn't slip.  Feels good to hold and the d-pad is better than the 360's d-pad by a country mile.  The people bitching about the Saturn pad need to shut the fuck up about it; this thing does a good job and it also has the benefit of having a mic port, turbo options, and you can even switch the d-pad to analog mode (for either stick) if you need that.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: drew on February 07, 2009, 07:41:08 PM
nice pad.  40 bucks tho, ive got more pressing issues at hand

then Tom Clancy's H.A.W.X. and resi 5 in march.  plus HDTV

i think im gonna have to skip out on all this fighting game stuff
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: archie4208 on February 07, 2009, 09:59:26 PM

FWIW a Gamestop manager I spoke to said he expected them to be in all the stores on Monday.

Did you happen to ask about the fight sticks?  I might pick one up to play around with until my Amazon TE stick arrives.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 08, 2009, 12:05:44 AM
I would assume it would be the same.  I think Gamestop.com starting shipping out the joysticks already.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: archie4208 on February 08, 2009, 12:57:47 AM
Yeah I know GS shipped TE sticks but I hadn't heard anything about the regular sticks.  On another note, I discovered GGPO this evening and have spent all my time getting hand cramps playing with a keyboard, lol.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Jansen on February 09, 2009, 04:18:40 PM
i've been reading that the pad feels cheaply made... just like every madcatz pad. is this true?

and WTF at there being no rumble. i can deal without rumble in a fighting game but for other games i wanted to use the pad with that is disappointing
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: cool breeze on February 09, 2009, 04:32:50 PM
is no rumble really a shock to you? has there ever been a controller meant for 2D games (no analog sticks) with rumble?
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Jansen on February 09, 2009, 04:43:52 PM
i haven't purchased a controller without analogue stick(s) since the psx days. so yes, yes it is.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 09, 2009, 05:25:12 PM
i've been reading that the pad feels cheaply made... just like every madcatz pad. is this true?

and WTF at there being no rumble. i can deal without rumble in a fighting game but for other games i wanted to use the pad with that is disappointing

People are confusing "cheap" with "light."  No rumble or battery, so it feels VERY light.  It works nicely and no rumble doesn't bother me in the slightest since this is made with fighting games in mind.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 09, 2009, 05:40:10 PM
How goes your hunt for an early copy, Lyte? I'm home with the stomach flu, so I haven't bothered going outside to look.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 09, 2009, 06:31:27 PM
How goes your hunt for an early copy, Lyte? I'm home with the stomach flu, so I haven't bothered going outside to look.

Nothing today.  One guy on SRK claims he got a copy from 7-11, but that's because his family owns several stores and he was able to get one with "connections."  No one seems to be able to produce proof they have it yet AFAIK, so most people think these are just people who pirated it.

Someone on GAF got a PS3 fighting pad today...hopefully they will be everywhere by tomorrow.

My order for the J-version has changed to "Preparing Order" on P-A though.   :o
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Himu on February 10, 2009, 09:40:21 AM
Gets a THUMBS-UP from me.  Do I think it's as good as a Saturn pad?  Time's gonna tell on that, right now I'd say the Saturn pad is better, but this thing is NICE.  I plugged it in and immediately got a winning streak in HD Remix.   :lol  It's got a good feel, plus rubber grips on the sides so it doesn't slip.  Feels good to hold and the d-pad is better than the 360's d-pad by a country mile.  The people bitching about the Saturn pad need to shut the fuck up about it; this thing does a good job and it also has the benefit of having a mic port, turbo options, and you can even switch the d-pad to analog mode (for either stick) if you need that.

holy fuck
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: WrikaWrek on February 10, 2009, 12:16:44 PM
The game is out in the interwebz
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Arbys Roast Beef Sandwich on February 10, 2009, 01:00:11 PM
Gets a THUMBS-UP from me.  Do I think it's as good as a Saturn pad?  Time's gonna tell on that, right now I'd say the Saturn pad is better, but this thing is NICE.  I plugged it in and immediately got a winning streak in HD Remix.   :lol  It's got a good feel, plus rubber grips on the sides so it doesn't slip.  Feels good to hold and the d-pad is better than the 360's d-pad by a country mile.  The people bitching about the Saturn pad need to shut the fuck up about it; this thing does a good job and it also has the benefit of having a mic port, turbo options, and you can even switch the d-pad to analog mode (for either stick) if you need that.

Great impressions, although I'm probably just gonna get a Saturn USB pad since the SF4 pad seems huge as shit to me (plus it's a bit cheaper).
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: CajoleJuice on February 10, 2009, 01:03:49 PM
Does the Saturn USB pad work with the 360? No, right?
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Rman on February 10, 2009, 01:05:13 PM
Does the Saturn USB pad work with the 360? No, right?
No.  PC and PS3 only.

Lyte, could you play American players with the J-version of Street Fighter 4?
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 10, 2009, 02:47:36 PM
Yeah, with PS3 you can use PS2 controllers, but with 360 the Mad Catz pad is the only one of its kind.

Gets a THUMBS-UP from me.  Do I think it's as good as a Saturn pad?  Time's gonna tell on that, right now I'd say the Saturn pad is better, but this thing is NICE.  I plugged it in and immediately got a winning streak in HD Remix.   :lol  It's got a good feel, plus rubber grips on the sides so it doesn't slip.  Feels good to hold and the d-pad is better than the 360's d-pad by a country mile.  The people bitching about the Saturn pad need to shut the fuck up about it; this thing does a good job and it also has the benefit of having a mic port, turbo options, and you can even switch the d-pad to analog mode (for either stick) if you need that.

Great impressions, although I'm probably just gonna get a Saturn USB pad since the SF4 pad seems huge as shit to me (plus it's a bit cheaper).

Where can you get the Saturn pads?

Does the Saturn USB pad work with the 360? No, right?
No.  PC and PS3 only.

Lyte, could you play American players with the J-version of Street Fighter 4?

As far as I know, yes, BUT people are saying that there (surprisingly) are NO LANGUAGE OPTIONS and that the Japanese versions are Japanese-only.  This seems weird considering that videos out there are showing stuff like English voices with Korean subs in cut scenes though.  I'm going to wait for more clarification.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: MCD on February 10, 2009, 02:50:25 PM
This item will be released on February 20, 2009.

oh amazon...
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Arbys Roast Beef Sandwich on February 10, 2009, 03:23:33 PM
Where can you get the Saturn pads?

They have a bunch on eBay. (http://cgi.ebay.com/Black-SEGA-USB-SS-PC-Game-Controller-limited-Edition_W0QQitemZ220358068045QQcmdZViewItemQQptZVideo_Games_Accessories?hash=item220358068045&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1234%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50) Actually I already bought one a couple of months ago but a friend wanted it so I let him buy it off me.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 10, 2009, 03:27:35 PM
Amazon doesn't seem to be the place to go if you want new game releases ASAP, it seems.  Kinda sucks because I was hoping I could just use them for everything and avoid the retail stores all together.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: MCD on February 10, 2009, 03:31:32 PM
nah, will be getting the game locally, i was referring to the 360 pads since i am not sure i would find them $40 here.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: CurseoftheGods on February 10, 2009, 03:32:08 PM
Where do you live, MCD?
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: MCD on February 10, 2009, 03:33:47 PM
somewhere on earth.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Grecco on February 10, 2009, 04:16:08 PM
Bleh Best buy somehow sold out all pads today. Kind of pissed.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: CurseoftheGods on February 10, 2009, 04:21:06 PM
I just bought a white Sega Saturn USB pad. :supergay
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on February 10, 2009, 05:14:35 PM
I just bought a white Sega Saturn USB pad. :supergay

I bought a black one  :punch
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 10, 2009, 05:42:40 PM
Ah, the pads.  I still have them on pre-order too; figured I might as well stop searching for them locally since I scored one 360 pad anyway.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Rman on February 10, 2009, 08:08:35 PM
Yeah, with PS3 you can use PS2 controllers, but with 360 the Mad Catz pad is the only one of its kind.

Gets a THUMBS-UP from me.  Do I think it's as good as a Saturn pad?  Time's gonna tell on that, right now I'd say the Saturn pad is better, but this thing is NICE.  I plugged it in and immediately got a winning streak in HD Remix.   :lol  It's got a good feel, plus rubber grips on the sides so it doesn't slip.  Feels good to hold and the d-pad is better than the 360's d-pad by a country mile.  The people bitching about the Saturn pad need to shut the fuck up about it; this thing does a good job and it also has the benefit of having a mic port, turbo options, and you can even switch the d-pad to analog mode (for either stick) if you need that.

Great impressions, although I'm probably just gonna get a Saturn USB pad since the SF4 pad seems huge as shit to me (plus it's a bit cheaper).

<b>Where can you get the Saturn pads?</b>

Does the Saturn USB pad work with the 360? No, right?
No.  PC and PS3 only.

Lyte, could you play American players with the J-version of Street Fighter 4?

As far as I know, yes, BUT people are saying that there (surprisingly) are NO LANGUAGE OPTIONS and that the Japanese versions are Japanese-only.  This seems weird considering that videos out there are showing stuff like English voices with Korean subs in cut scenes though.  I'm going to wait for more clarification.

eBay.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: cool breeze on February 10, 2009, 08:39:58 PM
people at Gamestop said the controller won't be in until next week  :'(

I'm fine with not getting SF4 early since it will be out next wednesday, which is after the day I have 3 tests and a big paper due, but I really want to at least try this controller.  If Best Buy didn't suck and wasn't so far away, I would have grabbed one from them.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 10, 2009, 09:05:02 PM
people at Gamestop said the controller won't be in until next week  :'(

I'm fine with not getting SF4 early since it will be out next wednesday, which is after the day I have 3 tests and a big paper due, but I really want to at least try this controller.  If Best Buy didn't suck and wasn't so far away, I would have grabbed one from them.

If you don't care which character you get, just order one online from Gamestop.com.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: cool breeze on February 10, 2009, 09:09:22 PM
I do kinda care.  I have the Ryu one pre-ordered on amazon, problem is that it won't ship until the 20th, so I was planning to get it in a store and can that order.  I'd be happy with Ken, Ryu, or Akuma.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: pilonv1 on February 10, 2009, 10:23:01 PM
(http://game.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/20090203/home01.jpg)
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 10, 2009, 10:37:05 PM
that's like virtual salt peter
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 10, 2009, 10:57:38 PM
If you think that's bad, you should see the Idolmaster costumes. 
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: pilonv1 on February 11, 2009, 12:00:27 AM
:hyper idolmaster
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 11, 2009, 01:01:26 AM
:hyper idolmaster

IT IS SCARY

(http://api.ning.com/files/UWtqavfiSMoMoJLM89b20NYUBXI8U9wan*rPhuegKN7hrRQdMS51YXxCZLQ072z8Tojc-c1eHvMT6JGOydEDZqdulJJnxldF/imas.jpg)
http://handofwin.ning.com/profiles/blogs/anime-and-playstation-home-do
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: cool breeze on February 11, 2009, 01:05:12 AM
wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Vrolokus on February 11, 2009, 01:08:38 AM
(http://game.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/20090203/home01.jpg)

This is the first frame of a porno, right?
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Purple Filth on February 11, 2009, 01:26:02 AM
:hyper idolmaster

IT IS SCARY

(http://api.ning.com/files/UWtqavfiSMoMoJLM89b20NYUBXI8U9wan*rPhuegKN7hrRQdMS51YXxCZLQ072z8Tojc-c1eHvMT6JGOydEDZqdulJJnxldF/imas.jpg)
http://handofwin.ning.com/profiles/blogs/anime-and-playstation-home-do

DA fuck?

kill it with fire
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 11, 2009, 03:31:04 AM
Play-Asia just shipped out my copy.  Gonna have it thursday!   
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: T234 on February 11, 2009, 12:45:47 PM
How long is the cord on the pads?
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 11, 2009, 01:44:22 PM
(http://api.ning.com/files/dS9SjwJhl0PVcyKGrh8am7Fqu98Bwfo67yufFF7mIDFPAQnc4vVzGkiiTAQDo2EKLp0*1QLiC8EyQvi3vjatWlQ7EwgZPjmN/sf4_harukasan.jpg)

Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: T234 on February 11, 2009, 01:53:51 PM
Stop posting that home shit and tell me how long your cord is RYTOU EDGOU
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 11, 2009, 02:28:59 PM
About the same length as a wired 360 controller, maybe a little longer.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: T234 on February 11, 2009, 02:32:36 PM
Thank you, but you never told me YOUR cord length :-*
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 11, 2009, 03:04:53 PM
About the same length as a wired 360 controller, maybe a little longer.

.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: T234 on February 11, 2009, 03:08:55 PM
OOOH BIGU CHIN-CHIN JUST RIKE MANGA
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Cheebs on February 11, 2009, 03:20:39 PM
I ended up ordering the saturn pad over the fightpad. Right decision?
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Kestastrophe on February 11, 2009, 03:21:26 PM
I still can't find any of the 360 fightpads in the Kalamazoo area  :'(. In the meantime, I'm feeling like I wasted $15 on SFIIHD
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on February 11, 2009, 08:29:08 PM
I ended up ordering the saturn pad over the fightpad. Right decision?

I heard the d-pad on the MadCatz controller was pretty shitty.

If you've ever used a Saturn controller, you know how good the d-pad is. The only problem with the Saturn controller is that it's kind of small.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Sho Nuff on February 11, 2009, 10:16:54 PM
Hey this just came out a few hours ago here in Japan

Too bad it costs 7980 yen for the 360 version...blech, I'll wait for used (you know it's gonna be down to 3480 yen in a few months)
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: cool breeze on February 11, 2009, 10:20:04 PM
I ended up ordering the saturn pad over the fightpad. Right decision?

I heard the d-pad on the MadCatz controller was pretty shitty.

If you've ever used a Saturn controller, you know how good the d-pad is. The only problem with the Saturn controller is that it's kind of small.

I think the SNES pad would be perfect if the top row of buttons was the same size as the bottom, it had a select button, and the shoulder buttons were a bit better.  As is it's still the best 2D controller there is.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Sho Nuff on February 11, 2009, 10:26:31 PM
The last fighter I paid full price for was VF5 on the PS3, and now you can get that for a buck-fifty in the bargain dumpster
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: y2kev on February 11, 2009, 11:49:56 PM
are you getting re5? 8800 yen!
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Cheebs on February 12, 2009, 12:15:05 AM
That's because the 360 version is the definitive version and noone wants the re-re offline version these days.
Well VF5's online mode basically dead now no? Sega really needs to put out VF5 R on consoles.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: demi on February 12, 2009, 12:15:22 AM
are you getting re5? 8800 yen!

Unlikely at this point. I've never finished an RE game, and there is a lot of stuff I want to play right now.

* Like The Last Remnant
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 12, 2009, 12:19:04 AM
still undecided
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: pilonv1 on February 12, 2009, 12:58:15 AM
just found out theres no spectating and only 2 people in lobbies

fuck this game, i blame nintendo

AND

play-asia have delayed their shipping of pads till MARCH.

im taking all of this as a sign and avoiding this game now
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 12, 2009, 01:09:28 AM
One thing I am reading that really SUCKS about SF4 is that the online is very basic-- just one on one matches, no rooms.  No spectating.  No tournament modes.  Pretty  :-\ coming off of HD Remix.

But I am still giddy like a schoolgirl waiting for my copy to show up in a matter of hours now.  Fedex sez before 10:30am but I bet they won't come until the late afternoon.  FANBOY SUFFERING  :'(

Hey this just came out a few hours ago here in Japan

Too bad it costs 7980 yen for the 360 version...blech, I'll wait for used (you know it's gonna be down to 3480 yen in a few months)

I wish I had the patience or I would have held off on so many big Japanese releases.   :lol  But if you do want it sooner, there's always the cheaper Asian version hitting next week!  No way I could have waited on SF4 though.  Plus in a few months people are gonna be too damn good online; I wanna get on it ASAP and start getting into the game hardcore.


I ended up ordering the saturn pad over the fightpad. Right decision?

I heard the d-pad on the MadCatz controller was pretty shitty.

If you've ever used a Saturn controller, you know how good the d-pad is. The only problem with the Saturn controller is that it's kind of small.

I think the SNES pad would be perfect if the top row of buttons was the same size as the bottom, it had a select button, and the shoulder buttons were a bit better.  As is it's still the best 2D controller there is.

No way, the Saturn and Neo-Geo CD pads are the best ones ever made.

Hey this just came out a few hours ago here in Japan

Too bad it costs 7980 yen for the 360 version...blech, I'll wait for used (you know it's gonna be down to 3480 yen in a few months)

I want to wait too, but I'm not going to. I'm stupid and will pay that full price AND probably buy the DLC costumers for the ladies. Hopefully I'll have some points on my card to get the price down.

I already have 1600 Japanese MS points waiting on my J-account for all the costumes.   :-[  I'm such a sucker.  Forget Soul Calibur IV, I bought all the DLC for RUMBLE ROSES.  Don't even want to think about how much that cost.   :lol

That's because the 360 version is the definitive version and noone wants the re-re offline version these days.
Well VF5's online mode basically dead now no? Sega really needs to put out VF5 R on consoles.

I haven't checked in a while, but I don't see why it would be dead.  Fighting game players typically don't just up and leave games until a new version comes out.

So I haven't played a SF seriously since SFII. Are there any things I should know before going into this? Like, are there any good guides to the new systems or anything?

Check out iplaywinner.com or wait for the guide going on 1up (MyCheats?).  Shoryuken.com is also a good place to go for strategies and info.  Besides the basics, what you really need to get down is the focus attack system (both medium buttons together).  You can do all sorts of stuff like "parrying" attacks.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Robo on February 12, 2009, 01:33:03 AM
One thing I am reading that really SUCKS about SF4 is that the online is very basic-- just one on one matches, no rooms.  No spectating.  No tournament modes.  Pretty  :-\ coming off of HD Remix.

Kinda expected after Capcom announced the first real DLC pack as a tournament mode "enhancement" (which apparently means ADDING one), but still a bummer to hear it's so bare bones out of the box.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: cool breeze on February 12, 2009, 01:43:02 AM
I think the SNES pad would be perfect if the top row of buttons was the same size as the bottom, it had a select button, and the shoulder buttons were a bit better.  As is it's still the best 2D controller there is.

No way, the Saturn and Neo-Geo CD pads are the best ones ever made.

SNES is a typo.  I thought the complaining about different button sizes and lack of select button helped clear that up  ;)

and the neo geo pad is great for fighting games.  that's pretty much it.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Sho Nuff on February 12, 2009, 01:59:26 AM
Questions for you guyses:

-- The arcade version had like 3 backgrounds. Does each character have a background? Is there an appropriate amount of content here?
-- Is it multilingual for text and voice?
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 12, 2009, 02:07:30 AM
Questions for you guyses:

-- The arcade version had like 3 backgrounds. Does each character have a background? Is there an appropriate amount of content here?
-- Is it multilingual for text and voice?

They added at least one new background into the home version, but I dunno about it for everyone.  I kinda doubt it or people would have said that by now.  One thing about the arcade version is that it would almost never go to some backgrounds for some reason.  I could never really hear the music in the arcade version, but besides the stage BGMs, everyone has remixed versions of their old themes when fighting rivals.  I have no idea if you can get this music in versus.

It's a fighting game, so you've got the standard arcade (now with anime intros and endings), versus, online, and training modes.  There's also a challenge mode.  One cool option is that you can have it set so that other players -online- can interrupt an arcade match, which is a fucking AWESOME idea.  Makes it just like playing in the arcade that way, and beats just sitting at a wait screen.  It's also VF5-like with its rankings, so you should (can't confirm this though) be able to add custom quotes and that kinda crap to your profile.  Besides the now-DLC costumes, you can also unlock more character colors too.  And they made the new characters "hidden" with each being unlocked by beating the game with a default character, Tekken style.

From what I am reading, on 360 the game will default to English if you have those settings on.  PS3 seems to have NO language text option (WTF?), although in both games you can change the voices to English or Japanese.  Apparently you can also unlock a setting to change a single character's voice to Japanese or English, too, which is pretty cool.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Sho Nuff on February 12, 2009, 04:14:27 AM
So does it feel like a whole game or a beta? (To me the arcade release felt like a beta cuz of the lack of backgrounds)

Or does it feel like something like SC4 or VF5, which has crazy amount of fun content and extra quest modes?
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 12, 2009, 04:55:41 AM
I heard the d-pad on the MadCatz controller was pretty shitty.

Who the hell said this?

Every gaming outlet that has laid hands upon one has given it very favorable reviews.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: pilonv1 on February 12, 2009, 06:08:40 AM
ive read a few that said it was a bit spongey.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: MCD on February 12, 2009, 08:48:01 AM
I knew it.

SF is dead.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: dark1x on February 12, 2009, 09:22:59 AM
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NOT GOING BACK TO THE FUCKING CHARACTER SELECT SCREEN AFTER LOSING A MATCH.
Wow, they actually screwed that up?!  That seems like a pretty serious oversight.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 12, 2009, 09:24:18 AM
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3518/3273657717_075859b509_b.jpg)

 :D :D :D
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Kestastrophe on February 12, 2009, 09:24:34 AM
Is the Hori EX2 stick worth it for $40? Never used an arcade stick before, so it's between this and the madcatz gamepad.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: dark1x on February 12, 2009, 09:28:28 AM
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3518/3273657717_075859b509_b.jpg)

 :D :D :D
Ohh, you'll have to give us impressions on Tenchu 4 PSP when you get a chance!
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: archie4208 on February 12, 2009, 09:30:42 AM
it makes no sense....

Will you continue?
9

8

7

6

LETS GO ! Guile stands back up, does animation....

BACK TO THE SELECT YOUR CHARACTER SCREEN

i wonder if the fix will be DLC? ;)


I'm not following.  Going back to the character select screen after losing a match has been standard in fighting games since forever.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 12, 2009, 09:34:47 AM
All right, I can confirm that the 360 version defaults to English, and that the voice options for Japanese and English are there from the start.  You can even have English voice just during the anime cut scenes if you want!

The DLC 124kb unlock key costumes for the five "brawlers" showed up right away. They get 10 different costume colors immediately.

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3518/3273657717_075859b509_b.jpg)

 :D :D :D
Ohh, you'll have to give us impressions on Tenchu 4 PSP when you get a chance!

I already posted a bit about it a few days ago.   ;)  It looks GREAT and plays much better than the Wii version does.  Nothing is missing; you get the same game in portable form with far better controls.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 12, 2009, 09:51:05 AM
Uh, guys, you can indeed change characters at continue.  Do you have the option for online battles from arcade mode turned on?  Maybe that's what's doing it?
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: drohne on February 12, 2009, 10:05:08 AM
oh lord why must these dirty scrubs have sfiv now when i have to wait til tomorrow :'(

bet i'm going to get raped on the price too, but IT'LL BE WORTH IT
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Sho Nuff on February 12, 2009, 11:09:08 AM
Hermm, even in my drunken state I couldn't manage to buy it at the 24-hour game store.

Something keeps telling me "IT WILL BE 2480 YEN NEXT MONTH" despite my urges to play it. As much as I love the play-single-player-and-get-interrupted-by-some-random-guy-on-XBL feature. Maybe I am getting old :(
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 12, 2009, 11:23:01 AM
I think it's such a big release that if you're not gonna get all hardcore-crazy, you probably should wait since it likely will reach Metal Gear or VF5 levels of cheapness quick enough.  There's no way this is gonna be another Xbox Anniversary Collection and only go up in price, anyway.

I did an install and it takes 5.7gb of HD Space.  Virtually no difference in load time, but I just wanted to do it to reduce any strain on my system.  I think I may gather up some crap lying around (Resistance 2, MK Vs. DC, etc.) and go sell it all off towards a new HD.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Himu on February 12, 2009, 12:02:30 PM
I ended up ordering the saturn pad over the fightpad. Right decision?

I heard the d-pad on the MadCatz controller was pretty shitty.

If you've ever used a Saturn controller, you know how good the d-pad is. The only problem with the Saturn controller is that it's kind of small.

I think the SNES pad would be perfect if the top row of buttons was the same size as the bottom, it had a select button, and the shoulder buttons were a bit better.  As is it's still the best 2D controller there is.

snes pad sucks
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: cool breeze on February 12, 2009, 12:16:42 PM
I ended up ordering the saturn pad over the fightpad. Right decision?

I heard the d-pad on the MadCatz controller was pretty shitty.

If you've ever used a Saturn controller, you know how good the d-pad is. The only problem with the Saturn controller is that it's kind of small.

I think the SNES pad would be perfect if the top row of buttons was the same size as the bottom, it had a select button, and the shoulder buttons were a bit better.  As is it's still the best 2D controller there is.

snes pad sucks

SNES is a typo.  I thought the complaining about different button sizes and lack of select button helped clear that up  ;)

typo
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 12, 2009, 12:16:43 PM
ive read a few that said it was a bit spongey.

The D-Pad?  It's gotten almost universal praise.  It's not perfect - it is a little floaty.  That said, it's the best thing out on the market and is still a damn fine D-Pad.

This magic, amazing flawless D-Pad of Saturn caliber will never be readily available.  You will have to make due with it being REALLY FUCKING GOOD instead.  Woe is me.

And no offense, nobody here is that good, to the point where playing with the Saturn pad over the MadCatz one is going to make them more competitive.  We're talking negligible difference to vast majority of players.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: demi on February 12, 2009, 12:42:34 PM
My enthusiasm for this game has been a little tempered.

I could have told you that... KOF XII baby
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 12, 2009, 01:24:47 PM
XII gonna be awesome too, but this game is the shit.  I still think it will turn off a number o players expecting full-on SF2; it's not the same game and is more complex.  I don't see it being any easier to get into than SF3 was.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Robo on February 12, 2009, 01:25:50 PM
And no offense, nobody here is that good, to the point where playing with the Saturn pad over the MadCatz one is going to make them more competitive.  We're talking negligible difference to vast majority of players.

Speak for yourself. :punch
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: CajoleJuice on February 12, 2009, 01:27:28 PM
whatever, i beat you like the first time i ever played VF
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Robo on February 12, 2009, 01:49:03 PM
I'm much better at 2D fighters than VF, so shut up.  Besides, that was my first time too!

Oh yeah, here's another excuse: that was my first time playing VF on an arcade stick too -- I was a pad cigarillo for VF4.

 :punch :punch :punch :punch
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: CajoleJuice on February 12, 2009, 02:00:14 PM
we must play SFIV :hyper

i'll actually get into it this time (compared to VF5) -- assuming the online is good -- since i'll have a functioning d-pad
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: DJ_Tet on February 12, 2009, 02:05:17 PM
So when do the pads hit stores?  I want to read more opinions (although my mind is made up to get one.)


Is the d-pad really like the click stick for the neo geo portable?
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: CurseoftheGods on February 12, 2009, 04:42:17 PM
XII gonna be awesome too, but this game is the shit.  I still think it will turn off a number o players expecting full-on SF2; it's not the same game and is more complex.  I don't see it being any easier to get into than SF3 was.

I agree. Focus Attacks have become a Frankenstein of features compared to when it was first shown. They're definitely more complex than parries ever were.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Kestastrophe on February 12, 2009, 06:50:42 PM
Picked up the Hori EX2 and was immediately able to pull off shoryuken, hadouken, and supers in SFIIHD with ease. Looking forward to SF IV
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 13, 2009, 01:05:18 AM
I.  LOVE.  THIS.  GAME.

I didn't really get a chance to get used to the focus system when I was playing the arcade version, but playing for hours today has gotten me used to it...and I FUCKING LOVE IT.  PWNIN SCRUBS ALL OVER THE FUCKIN PLACE...WITH CAMMY!   (And Gief too)

distinguished mentally-challenged fellows just WALK RIGHT INTO FOCUS ATTACKS.  Of course, there's always been ways to stop stupid shit before, but focus attacks are much easier to do than say, parries.   This one guy picked Guile and went for the classic Sonic Boom spam/Flashkick turtle crouch position.  I just got close, focus attacked THROUGH his projectiles and knocked him out of his flash kick.  EVERY.  TIME.  OVER AND OVER.  I was rolling.  Cammy is just AWESOME in this game.  Her cannon spike comes out insanely fast, much like HD Remix, and her new air cannon spike (basically a downward spiral arrow) is great for jumping in.  It looks like the EX spiral arrow goes through projectiles, too.  When I started using her, I was racking up wins.  I am already at the 50 wins achievement in a very short time.

In fact, achievements seem pretty easy to get.  I already have 20/48.  You can get a number of them just from playing offline in versus with the other player acting as a dummy if you want.  It seems pretty accessable in that regard.

I was never as big into 3rd Strike (or SF3 overall, although I still love the aesthetics and audio from New Generation and 2nd Impact), but fuck it now.  Seriously, FUCK IT.  They surpassed it...focus attacks are implemented much better than parries.  And while the game has its top tiers already (and more to come), it still is far more balanced compared to 3rd Strike.

Also, it's pretty weird they are keeping up this difference in the names between versions. I know it's legacy now, but there has to be a point where it will cause some grievance, esp. now we're all playing together.

It's pretty cool, technically, that it switches automatically depending on your system settings though 8) But why the boxer is not called M.Bison, I will never know, esp. now Tyson is essentially out of the business.

On the fightin' gamin' internets, people have dropped using their names all together and just refer to them as "Boxer, Claw, and Dictator" to avoid any confusion.  With the dragon punch motion, it's just gonna take practice.  The 360 pad isn't the greatest as we all know, so anything would be an improvement, although I was playing HD Remix just fine with it.  If you can't do certain moves well, keep practicing, and if you're having trouble doing them in the middle of a match, drop using them until you feel comfortable with it.  I guarantee you if you get into the focus attack stuff, you'll be able to pwn scrubs with ease, dragon punch or not! 
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: cool breeze on February 13, 2009, 01:14:36 AM
you played online? Ps3 or 360? shit net code or...?
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 13, 2009, 02:24:35 AM
360.  I hear the PS3 version's netcode (once again) isn't as good, although I am still getting it when the U.S. version hits.

The game is NOT as smooth as HD Remix online, but the majority of the matches I have had have been great and lag-free, which is good considering the majority of them have been versus players in Asia.  You can set the game to find connections based on the best connections or language preference.

The option to have people interrupt your arcade matches is genius.  Just set it on, play the CPU, and plenty of people will challenge you.  No need to wait at the match-up screen searching for matches if you don't want to.  AND they were smart enough to let you decline matches if the connection is shitty and return back to arcade mode at the opponent you were facing (starting the match over)

I still need to unlock Gouken and Seth, and get all the colors and poses unlocked.  It really doesn't feel particularly time-consuming, but they should have at least had all the characters unlocked from the start.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Cheebs on February 13, 2009, 08:39:30 AM

The option to have people interrupt your arcade matches is genius.  Just set it on, play the CPU, and plenty of people will challenge you.  No need to wait at the match-up screen searching for matches if you don't want to.  AND they were smart enough to let you decline matches if the connection is shitty and return back to arcade mode at the opponent you were facing (starting the match over)

Is it anyone who can challenge you or just people on your friends list?
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: DJ_Tet on February 13, 2009, 12:10:35 PM
Played for a couple of hours last night with some friends who basically hadn't played fighting games since SFII (like me.)  It was a blast, although we were unable to figure out Super and Ultra moves.  Using the focus moves brought another level to the game.  We were playing with the analog stick on a regular 360 pad, worked a lot better than the crosspad but obviously it's still not ideal.  Hopefully I'll be able to pick up a pad this weekend, I'm looking forward to digging into this game. 
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 13, 2009, 01:46:54 PM

The option to have people interrupt your arcade matches is genius.  Just set it on, play the CPU, and plenty of people will challenge you.  No need to wait at the match-up screen searching for matches if you don't want to.  AND they were smart enough to let you decline matches if the connection is shitty and return back to arcade mode at the opponent you were facing (starting the match over)

Is it anyone who can challenge you or just people on your friends list?

Anyone, and you can set it to be challenged in either ranked or player matches.

Played for a couple of hours last night with some friends who basically hadn't played fighting games since SFII (like me.)  It was a blast, although we were unable to figure out Super and Ultra moves.

Basically, you get a meter for super moves by doing offensive stuff to your opponent, and you get a meter for ultra moves by getting hit by your opponent.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Robo on February 13, 2009, 01:50:02 PM
My TE stick came in today!
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 13, 2009, 08:15:31 PM
Picked up two pads and a faceplate today. Along with my three panel poster and one sheet, I'm whoring it out for Capcom.

Gamerpic is E. Honda and my theme is SF centric too
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: drohne on February 13, 2009, 09:12:53 PM
got the j360 version :rock

will be on after the rookie soph game, though from what little i've played in the arcade, i have no feel for this game's distances and timings and priorities, and really need some practice
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 13, 2009, 11:31:31 PM
just bought the $80 stick, which willco informs me is shit

leper willco, even if he's right
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Draft on February 13, 2009, 11:38:57 PM
just bought the $80 stick, which willco informs me is shit

leper willco, even if he's right
I read the Ars article on the sticks, and I think I'm going to get the $80 stick, but then drop like $20 on better buttons which I think will basically be awesome.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Enl on February 13, 2009, 11:40:28 PM
Still waiting for my Tourney stick which is looking like it might not arrive until March.

*grumble grumble*
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: drohne on February 14, 2009, 12:07:50 AM
just bought the $80 stick, which willco informs me is shit

leper willco, even if he's right

it's probably going to be fine. i played a lot of hd remix on a doa4 stick, which genuinely IS shit, i could still nail my inputs for the most part, and sf4 is much more lenient. i <3 my modded hraps, but i don't think arcade-quality gear is really necessary for casual play
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on February 14, 2009, 12:12:31 AM
I would never spend $80 on a MadCatz product.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Rman on February 14, 2009, 12:16:11 AM
just bought the $80 stick, which willco informs me is shit

leper willco, even if he's right

it's probably going to be fine. i played a lot of hd remix on a doa4 stick, which genuinely IS shit, i could still nail my inputs for the most part, and sf4 is much more lenient. i <3 my modded hraps, but i don't think arcade-quality gear is really necessary for casual play
Are your hraps for 360, PS3, or both?

Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: drohne on February 14, 2009, 01:16:40 AM
both, kind of unnecessarily -- bought the hrap 3 first cos it was such a good deal, but then gravitated towards the stronger competition on 360, and wanted an equivalent stick there
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 14, 2009, 02:22:43 AM
Prole, I never said the $80 model sucked - on the contrary, I hear it's quite good.  I just said the tourney stick is better.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 14, 2009, 03:46:01 AM
I am an ADDICT.

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3399/3278527708_f267b9fd04.jpg)

It hasn't even been two days yet!   :o
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: MMaRsu on February 14, 2009, 03:48:31 AM
I should have the game today as well!
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 14, 2009, 04:29:03 AM
Capcom Unity is reporting that the game is completely sold out in Japan now.   :o
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: DJ_Tet on February 14, 2009, 09:38:00 AM
Can't you mod the regular stick with better parts?  I might get into that too.  Fuck, it's gonna be expensive.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 14, 2009, 10:29:05 AM
i'll be rockin this

(http://media.teamxbox.com/dailyposts/hardware/madcatz_360_1.jpg)

 :lol rockin :lol
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 14, 2009, 10:47:22 AM
Why don't you just get the gamepad, dude?
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Rman on February 14, 2009, 10:52:51 AM
Prole, I never said the $80 model sucked - on the contrary, I hear it's quite good.  I just said the tourney stick is better.
It's impossible to find inf you haven't pre-ordered, though.  I looks great, but I personally cannot come to spend 150 bucks on a fight stick.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: MMaRsu on February 14, 2009, 10:53:55 AM
how do you do kens ultra?
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 14, 2009, 10:58:18 AM
Why don't you just get the gamepad, dude?

i don't want to spend an extra $40 on a game that there's an 80% chance i will scream curse words at and sell in two weeks

if i am digging it i'll pick up a pad later

the d-pad on the pictured controller works pretty well, i use it on some arcade games and on pc sometimes

the button placement is a bit awkward, but i'm so terrible at fighting games in general that i doubt a fight pad would help - it would probably just end up being a $40 reminder that i suck
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: MMaRsu on February 14, 2009, 11:09:39 AM
beat it nvm

so how do you cancel moves?
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on February 14, 2009, 12:08:38 PM
My USB Saturn controller came today.  :D

I'm shocked that was a legit seller...
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: cool breeze on February 14, 2009, 12:30:26 PM
if it was from the same group I got it from, then it isn't really a 100% match of the Saturn pad.  Most noticeable difference are the shoulder buttons being shit now.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on February 14, 2009, 12:35:59 PM
Here's the guy I got it from:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110346952386&ssPageName=ADME:X:AAQ:US:1123

There doesn't seem to be anything wrong with the shoulder buttons... although they are different from the actual Saturn pad shoulder buttons.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 14, 2009, 12:40:26 PM
how do you do kens ultra?

Hit start.  Look at his move list.  Ultras are typically the sam as supers, but with all three punches or kicks.

beat it nvm

so how do you cancel moves?

If you have a super stored, for example, you just do one special move and quickly do the motion for the super move in the middle of the special.  The new way to cancel in this game now is by using the focus attacks.  So for example with Ryu, you do a shoryuken, CANCEL in the middle of it into the focus attack, and then cancel out of the focus attack into his super/ultra.  KER-AZY. 

If Capcom was serious about making this game more casual-friendly, they failed big-time.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: DJ_Tet on February 14, 2009, 12:41:27 PM
I never played with a saturn 6 button but the shoulder buttons on the original saturn pad were garbage.  Thank goodness these buttons aren't like that.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: cool breeze on February 14, 2009, 12:41:33 PM
yeah, I think that's the same one I got.

the shoulder buttons are a lot more clicky now and less responsive.  It's a non-issue for fighting games since everything else is great, but yeah, for emulators and such it isn't as good as my Saturn pad through a converter box.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: DJ_Tet on February 14, 2009, 12:46:06 PM
how do you do kens ultra?

Hit start.  Look at his move list.  Ultras are typically the sam as supers, but with all three punches or kicks.

beat it nvm

so how do you cancel moves?

If you have a super stored, for example, you just do one special move and quickly do the motion for the super move in the middle of the special.  The new way to cancel in this game now is by using the focus attacks.  So for example with Ryu, you do a shoryuken, CANCEL in the middle of it into the focus attack, and then cancel out of the focus attack into his super/ultra.  KER-AZY. 

If Capcom was serious about making this game more casual-friendly, they failed big-time.

Jesus christ I might as well stop playing now.  I can't even get my ryu super out (well got it once in training.)
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on February 14, 2009, 12:49:31 PM
 :lol I was leaving feedback for the guy, and I realized that he probably doesn't speak any English and he might end up running what I said through a translator.

So I did the Zero Wing thing and entered the feedback I was about to leave, "Awesome product. Thank you very much" into Google Translate and it came back as "Terrible product. Thank you very much."

 
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Kestastrophe on February 14, 2009, 02:18:50 PM
I would like to echo your frustrations. I was such a noob that I didn't even know what hcf and qcf stood for, and I was unable to find anything that explained what they stood for. I eventually found a faq that explained it, but it took a ton of digging.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: MMaRsu on February 14, 2009, 02:57:11 PM
Seth is goddamn ridiculous even on very fucking easy.

SO FUCKING ANNOYING
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: tiesto on February 14, 2009, 03:03:05 PM
I think I'm gonna go pick up a pad today...

SF4 + Genesis Collection + Ikaruga with new pad :rock
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Bebpo on February 14, 2009, 03:28:45 PM
I think I'm gonna go pick up a pad today...

SF4 + Genesis Collection + Ikaruga with new pad :rock

Let me know if you think the pad is worth it.  I've been getting a lot of mixed signals from people and I don't really need a pad since I have an arcade stick for X360 and arcade stick + saturn-style pads w/usb adapters for PS3.  But I'm still tempted to get an X360 pad for shmups.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Grecco on February 14, 2009, 04:18:36 PM
If i could find a stick or pad id buy it. All the stores here are out. FFs.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: drohne on February 14, 2009, 04:55:16 PM
Seriously, this is what is frustrating about the whole SF thing from a complete scrub/noob point of view.

NONE of this really makes much sense. ONce we get to "cancel out of..." "focus attack into..." we're lost.

I just want a site that starts from ZERO :/

the combo lyte edge is referring to is shoryuken -> hold mp+mk as soon as the shoryuken hits, double tap forward, then release mp+mk -> immediately do the ultra. i can do it in training, but it's hard to get in a match -- obviously it's extremely useful if you can learn it

'cancelling' generally just refers to interrupting the animation of one move by performing another move -- cancelling normals into specials is how the most basic sf combos work, e.g. ryu's low mk -> hadouken. each character will have certain normals that can be cancelled into specials, and you can generally find them just by experimenting in training mode. i actually don't know of a very comprehensive sf4 guide, but there's some good stuff at www.iplaywinner.com
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: CurseoftheGods on February 14, 2009, 05:53:06 PM
(http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/2313/vlcsnap829802ps2.jpg)
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: CurseoftheGods on February 14, 2009, 06:21:24 PM
Cool stream here:

http://www.justin.tv/davedogv
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: WrikaWrek on February 14, 2009, 06:31:10 PM
Cool stream here:

http://www.justin.tv/davedogv

Holy crap, i'm watching a guy play FFVII, and it's...a chocobo, and has rainbows and clown music. Wtf
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 14, 2009, 07:04:54 PM
FINALLY got Gouken unlocked.  The trick seemed to be getting four victories with ultras as opposed to just two (plus a perfect) as mentioned before.  If you're having a hard time winning every round, remember that you can get to Akuma and Gouken by playing on just one round, and you can also do the old second-controller trick; just hit start on the second pad before you lose, beat up the character, and you'll go back to previous CPU fight with no losses counting against you.   :)

They really did something to this game's difficulty.  It doesn't make much sense that even on very easy, I can get perfect after perfect, then get my ass handed to me, then get a perfect again.  Seth is a complete fuck-head, too.  It's funny that he will own me left and right when I use some characters, but then I can perfect Akuma or Gouken after.   ???

I think Seth is actually easier to beat on the medium difficulty setting than he is on very easy.   :lol
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: drew on February 14, 2009, 08:33:10 PM
ok, screw all you guys that dont like neogaf official threads.  the sfiv one is awesome

im starting to get hyped for this.  might buy the arcade stick
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: drew on February 14, 2009, 08:38:44 PM
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51CsxvLuibL._SS420_.jpg)

whats the consensus on this thing? i dont have time to dig through threads n shit
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: drohne on February 14, 2009, 08:44:17 PM
the parts are sanwa clones, and ideally they should be better than the ones in entry-level hori sticks, but there have been some reports of sticking joysticks? i haven't really been following it

i guess it's your best option at this point if you don't want to lay out for a hrap
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: drew on February 14, 2009, 08:52:50 PM
yeah im not super serial or anything. not a tourneyfag

but its only $30 more, why not

spoiler (click to show/hide)
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41IPOTxp9yL._SS400_.jpg)

i assume you mean this one
[close]
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: drohne on February 14, 2009, 08:57:30 PM
oh, i thought you were thinking 360 -- if you're on ps3, you should totally go for the hrap. the xbox version is $130 for some damnable reason
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: drew on February 14, 2009, 08:59:16 PM
nope, im on 360.  fuck that then, $100 is the most im gonna spend on a stick

didnt realize i was on the ps3 amazon page.  the gaf thread linked me there
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on February 14, 2009, 09:01:04 PM
This game will bomb.  Just wait until there is a fire sale somewhere in a couple of months and get a good stick for cheap
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: drohne on February 14, 2009, 09:16:12 PM
nope, im on 360.  fuck that then, $100 is the most im gonna spend on a stick

didnt realize i was on the ps3 amazon page.  the gaf thread linked me there

just got this link from another eb thread: http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=176026&page=3

impressions of the prototype were positive, but it sounds like mc fucked up in manufacturing. wouldn't recommend spending $80 on it. if you don't want to buy an hrap, maybe go with an entry level hori stick (ex2, doa4 stick, vf5 stick -- all basically identical). i've got one and it feels kind of cheap, but at least it works
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: drew on February 14, 2009, 09:24:04 PM
i think ill get this one then, thanks:

(http://www.productwiki.com/upload/images/hori_fighting_stick_ex2_for_xbox_360.jpg)
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: CurseoftheGods on February 14, 2009, 10:39:57 PM
^ I have that one. Buttons feel like crap.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on February 14, 2009, 10:47:54 PM
^ I have that one. Buttons feel like crap.

Drewsy thanks you for saying that an hour after his post and possibly an hour after he bought it.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: CurseoftheGods on February 14, 2009, 11:07:01 PM
Read the post above his, dipshit. I was reiterating what drohne said since I had it.

And I don't think Drewsy needs anyone to post for him so please refrain from making unnecessary, halfwitted responses. 
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: WrikaWrek on February 14, 2009, 11:08:19 PM
This game ain't got shit on Tao Feng.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 14, 2009, 11:10:21 PM
I may have gone too far...

(http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2334/233/102/820364818/n820364818_1281635_1594.jpg)

(http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2334/233/102/820364818/n820364818_1281636_1782.jpg)

(http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2334/233/102/820364818/n820364818_1281638_2161.jpg)

(http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2334/233/102/820364818/n820364818_1281637_1981.jpg)
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: WrikaWrek on February 14, 2009, 11:12:31 PM
The Christmas lights are just too muCH MAN.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: CurseoftheGods on February 14, 2009, 11:13:42 PM
How do the dpads on those controllers feel, Willco? Are they mushy or clicky (if that makes any sense :lol)?

That Ken poster is sick, btw.  
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 14, 2009, 11:14:52 PM
Feel soft, not clicky.  Love 'em.  They've made playing the single player on SF2THD fun and are a blast with other XBLA titles.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on February 14, 2009, 11:19:50 PM
Read the post above his, dipshit. I was reiterating what drohne said since I had it.

And I don't think Drewsy needs anyone to post for him so please refrain from making unnecessary, halfwitted responses. 

uh...

Anyway, I'll have to get one of those SFIV pads for the 360 some time. It's nice to know that they're a lot better than the Street Fighter pads from last gen.

Fuck you MS for allowing only licensed controllers to work with the 360
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: CurseoftheGods on February 14, 2009, 11:21:39 PM
So this is a good game then? I was thinking about picking it up today.

It's great. You should definitely pick it up.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Human Snorenado on February 14, 2009, 11:41:59 PM
Federwang, you better never bring a girl into that room.  Just sayin!

T EXP- I don't think it will bomb.  It'll sell pretty well for a game that came out in the second half of February during a recession.  Lots of fighting fans will pick it up, fo sho.  Will it move SC type numbers?  We'll see.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Rman on February 14, 2009, 11:44:46 PM
Just got a HRAP3 EX.  It's so awesome.  Now I'm going to order some sanwa buttons.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on February 14, 2009, 11:50:00 PM
I'm a complete beginner to this series and this seems like a really great beginner's guide:

http://www.n-philes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=41161
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: DJ_Tet on February 15, 2009, 12:18:51 AM
Where do you get the SF4 faceplate?


Willco (or anyone else with pads,)  anyone else notice a difference between which side you're playing on?  I got an hour of PT earlier today and was loving it, but I read someone on GAF complaining that the pad didn't perform so great from the right before it got broken in. 

Tiesto, I'm gonna be using mine on the Sega collection too  :-*
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 15, 2009, 12:32:43 AM
Federwang, you better never bring a girl into that room.  Just sayin!

Planning on it tomorrow.  I will just keep the lights off! :shh

Tet, you do need to break in the right side of the D-Pad, because it does feel a bit firmer than the left side - still relatively soft, but the diagonal recoil is not as quick as the left side.  After working it out for a bit, it feels really good, though.

Bottom line: break it in and you'll have no problems - do not expect perfection out of the gate.  I'm not sure if it's a product flaw or a legit design choice.

I picked up the faceplate at GameCrazy when I picked up my pre-ordered gamepads.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Kestastrophe on February 15, 2009, 12:35:33 AM
I'm a complete beginner to this series and this seems like a really great beginner's guide:

http://www.n-philes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=41161
thanks
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: drew on February 15, 2009, 03:04:53 AM
stealing from work is a slippery slope willco
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 15, 2009, 05:16:28 AM
Played some games with Drohne!  It's nice to play people who are good!  :bow Drohne's Guile :bow2  In the 200+ matches I've had now, it's been Drohne and a friend of mine, plus this one guy who was rockin' the FADC and a few others.  That's it...I'm not bragging, believe me.  It's just that there are so many bad players online right now.  Good chance to get those BP levels up fast!

Willco, where did you get that long poster from?   :o  It doesn't come with the face plate by any chance, does it?
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 15, 2009, 09:32:59 AM
All that stuff is marketing from work.  There is a wall scroll you can buy, but they were out - I'm getting that next week.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: DJ_Tet on February 15, 2009, 11:40:12 AM
The pad has a lot of give, I'm hoping that I get used to it but right now it's causing thumb fatigue :(


I'm so weaksauce.  I don't think it will affect emulators and other games that benefit from digital controls, it's just street fighter with it's sweeping motions.  I wish the 360 supported that PC Saturn pad :(


edit:  Give might not be the right word, it's got a lot of travel I guess..
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 15, 2009, 01:20:38 PM
All that stuff is marketing from work.  There is a wall scroll you can buy, but they were out - I'm getting that next week.

The Mad Catz one?  I wasn't too big on it.  I like those promo ones a lot more.

I'm a complete beginner to this series and this seems like a really great beginner's guide:

http://www.n-philes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=41161

That's good for people who don't know the first thing about these games, but if you're looking for SF4 specifically, try here:

http://mycheats.1up.com/view/section/3163881/21109/street_fighter_4/xbox_360

I went downtown to pick this up today, only to find that SF4 doesn't come out in Korea for two more weeks. FML.

Seen a number of Korean players online already...no one wants to wait! 
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 15, 2009, 02:02:44 PM
Anyone know if 7-11 broke the street date yet?
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Rman on February 15, 2009, 05:31:52 PM
Added a bunch of you guys on XBL to get ready for SF4 next week.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: cool breeze on February 15, 2009, 05:52:19 PM
everyone here getting it on 360 really makes me want to double dip

I need to figure out a way to use my VSHG on my 360, or at least really like the Mad Catz pad to be fine playing with that.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: drohne on February 15, 2009, 06:04:29 PM
good games yesterday lyte. you were kicking my ass at first, but i feel like i learned a lot in just those 15 or 20 games we played -- it's tempting to play it like super turbo, but it's really very different. it takes some time just to learn...like...where to jump in from, how much distance you need to safely throw a fireball, etc

talent level on live is definitely pretty low right now, though it seems like you get better players in custom ranked matches than quick matches
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Jansen on February 15, 2009, 06:52:23 PM
This game will bomb. 

no it won't

Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: CurseoftheGods on February 15, 2009, 07:27:58 PM
This game will bomb.

:rofl
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on February 15, 2009, 07:32:20 PM
If this game bombs Wii culture has won and we're all doomed.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Grecco on February 15, 2009, 08:00:54 PM
Will it bomb? nah

will it be amazing sales wise? nah

will it play amazing? Damn straight
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: drohne on February 15, 2009, 08:07:12 PM
i've already spent...let's see...$390 on hd remix and sf4, with the ps3 ce and the guide still to come. the industry sucks too much to be revitalized by sf4, BUT IM DOING MY PART
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: archie4208 on February 15, 2009, 08:15:47 PM
Donating $210 towards the SF4 cause.  I'm doing my part to help save the industry.   :-[
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: CurseoftheGods on February 15, 2009, 08:41:19 PM
[youtube=560,345]K8L4XOPF-EA[/youtube]

:rock

:piss OC Remix :piss2
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 15, 2009, 09:09:57 PM
good games yesterday lyte. you were kicking my ass at first, but i feel like i learned a lot in just those 15 or 20 games we played -- it's tempting to play it like super turbo, but it's really very different. it takes some time just to learn...like...where to jump in from, how much distance you need to safely throw a fireball, etc

talent level on live is definitely pretty low right now, though it seems like you get better players in custom ranked matches than quick matches

Ah, but it was 4am...I was quite tired.   ;)  You may started to get my Cammy BUT YOU FEAR MY SAGAT!

Naw, you really started improving your game there with Guile.  I found it difficult to hit you with focus attacks, which hadn't happened before.  Lots o' fun...matches where the other guy just goes HADOKENHADOKENHADOKENHADOKENSHOYRYUKENHADOKEN over and over are so boring.  Sure you get BP in ranked, but it's usually just a few points since they have none to lose, and I'd much rather play a match where even if I lose, hell, even if I am PERFECTED, against a good player. It's just so much more satisfying and the only way to learn.

Back in the early-mid 90's, people were more willing to learn games, but now a lot of those same people seem to have moved on to FPS games where no real control learning curve is required.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on February 15, 2009, 09:56:23 PM
ugh, I CANNOT figure out how to do charge moves
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Rman on February 15, 2009, 10:09:55 PM
Ken's theme in SFIV

:rock

:piss OC Remix :piss2
That's sounds great.  I was always partial to Cammy's theme.  I was very underwhelmed by the OC Remixes in HDR as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwAFemIkYw4
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Beezy on February 15, 2009, 10:30:48 PM
Goddammit, I want this game now even though I know I'm gonna suck at it. :maf
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 15, 2009, 10:33:05 PM
ugh, I CANNOT figure out how to do charge moves

You simply hold back/down for about two seconds, then immediately press forward/up and the attack button together.  It might just be that you are not waiting long enough when charging.

Like this:

<-- (Count "One one-thousand, two one-thousand") --> + Attack
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Rman on February 15, 2009, 10:45:50 PM
<3 Charge characters, avatar notwithstanding.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: drohne on February 15, 2009, 11:37:07 PM
(http://i42.tinypic.com/2v9z0w0.jpg)

Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Purple Filth on February 15, 2009, 11:41:25 PM
(http://i42.tinypic.com/2v9z0w0.jpg)



 :lol
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: cool breeze on February 15, 2009, 11:59:49 PM
Wednesday is gonna be great.  4 midterms in one day, but SF4 is my reward at the end of the day.  I can't wait.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: CurseoftheGods on February 16, 2009, 12:08:35 AM
(http://i42.tinypic.com/2v9z0w0.jpg)



demi fapping
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: pilonv1 on February 16, 2009, 04:22:15 AM
which of you lovely ebers wants to ship me a sf pad :-*
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Himu on February 16, 2009, 11:12:45 AM
(http://i42.tinypic.com/2v9z0w0.jpg)



 :lol
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Himu on February 16, 2009, 11:18:50 AM
oh my god i need this game ;(
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Akala on February 16, 2009, 12:19:28 PM
You know, I am really surprised by how this game turned out. Last year when the first shots were trickling out,  I had zero hope that it would be anything but a giant bomb. They seem to have pulled it together though, and the game seems to have come together really nicely.

I'm also happily surprised by all of the hype that is coming with the game at launch. It's wonderful.

It's great to be wrong about things like this.  :hyper
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: drew on February 16, 2009, 05:40:29 PM
(http://www.gamecyte.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/ces-209.jpg)

 :drool
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: pilonv1 on February 16, 2009, 06:52:01 PM
i want one :(
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 16, 2009, 07:08:47 PM
I still have three pads on pre-order at Amazon (one more for 360 and two for PS3), but I'm seriously considering changing it to two sticks instead.  I love the pad but I am finding myself wanting a more arcade-like experience now.

I think I might pull out the older Nyko SF Anniversary Stick and mess around with some PS2 games and HD Remix to see how it feels.  I can never use joysticks at home for reason; need the arcade-style set-up.  But I dunno.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Cheebs on February 16, 2009, 07:30:34 PM
Man, my saturn usb controller came in today and messed around with it in SF II HD Remix. The thing is perfect. I can't imagine ever using a arcade stick over it, I forgot how great the saturn pad was.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 16, 2009, 07:57:52 PM
Man, my saturn usb controller came in today and messed around with it in SF II HD Remix. The thing is perfect. I can't imagine ever using a arcade stick over it, I forgot how great the saturn pad was.

I am very much a pad dude at home, but my opinion still remains that a stick is basically a must for real high-level stuff.  There are just some things that are that much easier to do with a stick.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 16, 2009, 08:01:08 PM
So I just checked the Gamestop website and it said they pads in stock right down the street, and came back with a PS3 pad.

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3460/3285681855_27aacc5951.jpg)

Eager to see how it differs, if at all, from the 360 pad.  They told me they were all out of sticks and only got two (for pre-orders), and had no idea if they were getting any more.  If Amazon still has them up for pre-order I think I may get one for 360.

EDIT: H'okay- Comes with a USB dongle, needs two AA batteries.  I think I would have rather had one like the 360 with a cable. 
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: cool breeze on February 16, 2009, 08:02:03 PM
try it on a PC and see if it works
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 16, 2009, 08:08:00 PM
It also seems like you can't turn on the PS3 with this controller. 
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 16, 2009, 08:16:06 PM
Just tested it in HD Remix (man it is WEIRD going to that after so much SF4, I kept trying to do focus attacks  :lol) and it worked great.  Same as the 360 pad; nice and responsive and it has a nice grip.  So thumbs-up, but the Saturn pad is probably going to be the better buy assuming it's good quality.

try it on a PC and see if it works

If you want that get the 360 pad!

Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: ferrarimanf355 on February 16, 2009, 08:38:58 PM
(http://i42.tinypic.com/2v9z0w0.jpg)


This isn't going to end well... :lol
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: cool breeze on February 16, 2009, 08:47:24 PM

If you want that get the 360 pad!



I am, but wireless would be awesome.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: pilonv1 on February 16, 2009, 08:53:17 PM
got my CE today, but the sticks arent arriving in australia till APRIL and theres no sign of the pads :(
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: pilonv1 on February 16, 2009, 11:57:42 PM
cviper is a fucking dirty cunt
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 17, 2009, 03:49:41 AM
Aw fuck, I lost the Best Buy receipt that had a $5 pre-order down on the PS3 CE.  Am I screwed?  I don't recall giving them any contact information when I got it. 
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 17, 2009, 10:03:16 AM
Aw fuck, I lost the Best Buy receipt that had a $5 pre-order down on the PS3 CE.  Am I screwed?  I don't recall giving them any contact information when I got it. 

Did you use your reward zone card?  They can verify your purchase through that.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: cool breeze on February 17, 2009, 10:56:55 AM
I was told that the 360 version is in today, no confirmation on the PS3 version.  Screwed again  :'(
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Rman on February 17, 2009, 11:11:23 AM
I was told that the 360 version is in today, no confirmation on the PS3 version.  Screwed again  :'(
Where are you Swaggaz?  Meaning what state?
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 17, 2009, 11:12:04 AM
The Best Buys in the Seattle area list it as being in-stock... I'll have to stop by and check.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: demi on February 17, 2009, 11:27:17 AM
I dont think tiers really matter when you're still a big whoppin nubcake
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Rman on February 17, 2009, 11:29:06 AM
Yeah, tiers are overrated.  I wouldn't worry about them.  Just play against better players consistently and you will improve.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: cool breeze on February 17, 2009, 12:13:19 PM
I was told that the 360 version is in today, no confirmation on the PS3 version.  Screwed again  :'(
Where are you Swaggaz?  Meaning what state?

PA

Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Jansen on February 17, 2009, 12:14:19 PM
fucking amazon doesn't know when or if they're going to get the fightpads to fulfill pre-orders

i'm tempted to cancel every fucking pre-order i have with them
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 17, 2009, 12:31:41 PM
Haha, no credit card, no reward zone cards were used.  So I'm screwed I take it.

fucking amazon doesn't know when or if they're going to get the fightpads to fulfill pre-orders

i'm tempted to cancel every fucking pre-order i have with them

I'm just keeping my order with them as a back-up if I can't find any more.  They are trickling into stores though.  Gonna check Best Buy again today.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: cool breeze on February 17, 2009, 12:36:49 PM
got a second call from Gamestop saying that it's in today, PS3 CE version, and the 360 controller  :hyper

I really hope this call wasn't a mistake and the one two hours ago saying it was in tomorrow was
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: MCD on February 17, 2009, 12:42:17 PM
swaggaz, a mod on gaf said ps3 pad works on pc.

forgot his name.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: cool breeze on February 17, 2009, 01:06:17 PM
thanks

if I like the 360 version enough, I'll probably get the PS3 one too so I can use it when playing PC games on my TV
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: tiesto on February 17, 2009, 01:36:15 PM
Went to a couple of stores during my lunch break and I find out the stores don't get the game in till tomorrow... when I won't have any time to play. FUUUUUUUUCK!!!!  :maf
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Vrolokus on February 17, 2009, 02:12:47 PM
Jeez, how was this not done in the first 15 minutes after that screen appeared?:

(http://www.joystickdivision.com/2009/02/17/sf4%20release.jpg)

No need to thank me. I'm all about public service.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 17, 2009, 03:07:14 PM
Nobody had it in today, but I picked up a PS3 (Ken) Fightpad.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Jansen on February 17, 2009, 03:10:56 PM
is there seriously a mandatory install on ps3?

goddamn it's just a fighting game
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 17, 2009, 03:12:57 PM
is there seriously a mandatory install on ps3?

goddamn it's just a fighting game

I heard it was an optional install, like VF5.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: cool breeze on February 17, 2009, 03:17:16 PM
yeah, pretty sure it's optional.  I remember one of the Capcom guys saying it's optional, but you'd wanna due it since it reduces load time massively.  Same case for the 360.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Jansen on February 17, 2009, 03:20:23 PM
cool, i might see if i can find a copy to hold me over until my pad ships (which i used a gift card on...)

i know i can play the damn game with a ds3
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Enl on February 17, 2009, 06:14:36 PM
Got the game and my TE stick today. I was worried about not liking the square gate but after pulling off 10 dragon punches flawlessly, winning 10 out of 11 matches, and pulling off Dhalsim's super in HD Remix I'm not even thinking about getting octagonal gate anytime soon.

This stick is very the key to my chastity belt. Now that the shackles are off I'm feeling like a king. My only minor quibble is the sensitivity of the buttons. You could barely be touching the button and it could set off a move. Other than that it's the best stick I've laid my hands on outside of an arcade.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: CurseoftheGods on February 17, 2009, 07:08:35 PM
I got my white USB Saturn controller today, and it's fucking awesome. I forgot how amazing this pad feels.

Only disadvantage is how short the cord is (it's comparable to the GameCube's). I definitely need a USB extension cable to play about 8 feet away from my TV.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 17, 2009, 07:52:07 PM
yeah, pretty sure it's optional.  I remember one of the Capcom guys saying it's optional, but you'd wanna due it since it reduces load time massively.  Same case for the 360.

The 360 install doesn't change the load time.  It's already nice and fast; installing it on PS3 makes it load at about 360 speed, LOLZ.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: cool breeze on February 17, 2009, 08:30:26 PM
install time suck balls when you're really wanting to play the game

IN-DE-STRUCTABLE

THIS SONG SUCKS
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on February 17, 2009, 08:33:02 PM
Is it the Disturbed song?
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: CurseoftheGods on February 17, 2009, 08:47:31 PM
No, why the hell would you think that?
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: demi on February 17, 2009, 08:59:46 PM
Shit dude, that's wack. I hope they open up tomorrow.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: demi on February 17, 2009, 09:04:00 PM
[youtube=560,345]Y1a_ikfUico[/youtube]
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 17, 2009, 09:21:59 PM
Just found out my local Best Buy has the game in stock, but they're about to close.

:(

What I don't get is that Best Buy had this game in-store last weekend, but has been holding it for sale for tomorrow (and a few today, it seems) despite there being no official release date.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 17, 2009, 09:29:41 PM
Just got my ass beat online. :'(
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: cool breeze on February 17, 2009, 09:38:01 PM
this game is awesome.  I only played 3 games online, with the exception of one I was on the losing side, but all three were lag free.  I need to go into training mode and learn all the moves so I don't mash and hope to get out a special/ultra.

Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 17, 2009, 09:39:37 PM
I played some player matches with a Left Coast pal (went 3-2!) and that was fun.  Only one match, where I got brutally whooped, had lag.  I guess I'm not good enough to play ranked matches - yet.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 17, 2009, 09:39:58 PM
Anyone know if that $80 MadCatz stick is okay?
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: cool breeze on February 17, 2009, 09:41:52 PM
I won't bother with ranked matches until I learned all or most characters.  I could play fine if I used Ryu, Ken, Sagat, few others from SF2, but a lot of new and old ones I'm awful with.  It doesn't help that I only do random.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: DJ_Tet on February 17, 2009, 09:44:31 PM
Anyone know if that $80 MadCatz stick is okay?

It's not, there's reports of sticks sticking in one spot and sticky buttons.

http://www.joystiq.com/2009/02/16/owners-report-mad-catz-sfiv-fightstick-defects/
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: archie4208 on February 17, 2009, 10:18:28 PM
Ughhh.  The TE stick is going for ~$300 on eBay.  I don't know if I should sell mine and buy a HRAP EX or keep it. :-\
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Jansen on February 17, 2009, 10:29:14 PM
URGGHH

why can't i find a place selling the fucking pads online? fucking madcatz.

i need something, ANYTHING, so i can play this game on 360
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: ferrarimanf355 on February 17, 2009, 10:42:25 PM
I should have the game by tomorrow. If anyone needs to beat someone up using Dan, give me a few days so I know what the hell I'm doing.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: pilonv1 on February 17, 2009, 10:57:19 PM
URGGHH

why can't i find a place selling the fucking pads online? fucking madcatz.

i need something, ANYTHING, so i can play this game on 360

join the club. standard pad is ok for the ken+ryus but it sucks cock for charge characters
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: chronovore on February 17, 2009, 11:07:51 PM
It's yet another company getting greedy with DLC.  Except that this is NOT DLC, it's just Capcom charging money for UNLOCK KEYS.  These outfits are all already in the game, this is major bullshit.  It's not going to cost too much overall, sure, but it wasn't needed.  They are already offering an LE version for $20 more!  It's Soul Calibur IV all over again.  At least there's no exclusive 360 or PS3-onlytime-release unlock-key characters in this title.

They should have offered additional outfits not found in the arcade version (or a third for everyone) instead of this.  But I'm a sucker and I will pay them for these outfits, and the cycle will continue.    :-\

Wait, was Darth Vader eventually playable in the X360 version? Or were 360 players just stuck with Yoda-only, because... um, "he's green too"?
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on February 17, 2009, 11:08:54 PM
No, why the hell would you think that?

Because the chorus to that song goes IN-DE-STRUCTABLE you fucking taco.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Jansen on February 17, 2009, 11:33:15 PM
http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-dd-49-en-70-13qb.html

after 6 months i got an email informing me that these are back in stock. might have to bite.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: pilonv1 on February 17, 2009, 11:51:53 PM
Ive got a Joytech pad with a similar dpad and it's fucking horrible, it destroyed my thumb. I just want that circular dpad :(
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Beezy on February 18, 2009, 12:07:38 AM
It's yet another company getting greedy with DLC.  Except that this is NOT DLC, it's just Capcom charging money for UNLOCK KEYS.  These outfits are all already in the game, this is major bullshit.  It's not going to cost too much overall, sure, but it wasn't needed.  They are already offering an LE version for $20 more!  It's Soul Calibur IV all over again.  At least there's no exclusive 360 or PS3-onlytime-release unlock-key characters in this title.

They should have offered additional outfits not found in the arcade version (or a third for everyone) instead of this.  But I'm a sucker and I will pay them for these outfits, and the cycle will continue.    :-\

Wait, was Darth Vader eventually playable in the X360 version? Or were 360 players just stuck with Yoda-only, because... um, "he's green too"?
Earlier today my friend told me that you can get him in the 360 version for 400 MS points. :-\
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 18, 2009, 12:32:25 AM
Yeah, baby!  Just went 2-0 in ranked play, and one of those matches was against a pretty good opponent.  I love the FighterPad.  I'm going to return one for the Hori arcade stick, though.  Some of the characters' moves are too hard to pull off even with the circular, floating D-Pad.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Smooth Groove on February 18, 2009, 12:37:39 AM
I'm going to return one for the Hori arcade stick, though. 

The 360 HRAP?  Are they selling it in retail stores now? 

I might just pick that up if I can't find a tourney 360 stick. 
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Rman on February 18, 2009, 01:25:25 AM
I'm going to return one for the Hori arcade stick, though. 

The 360 HRAP?  Are they selling it in retail stores now? 

I might just pick that up if I can't find a tourney 360 stick. 
For those not going the MadCatz route on the 360.

You can get the HRAP EX--the 360 HRAP--at Amazon.  They're pricey, around 130 bucks, but I'm loving mine.  It has a Sanwa joystick, which are arcade grade parts, with Hori buttons, but you can easily replace them with arcade buttons if you choose to.

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/412vpHNByzL._SL500_AA280_.jpg)

The other widely avaliable Hori stick --well before the SFIV hype-- is the Fighting Stick EX2, which is the stock Soul Calibur 4/DOA4 stick.  It retails around 60 bucks.  You can mod it but it requires soldering for the stick and the buttons are not easily swappable.  It's currently sold out in Amazon. 

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31WqqifiQhL._SL500_AA280_.jpg)

The fighting stick is good value IMHO.  If you can't find a TE stick the HRAP EX is an excellent stick and comparable in quality to the TE stick, especially if you replace the buttons, and widely available.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on February 18, 2009, 01:55:20 AM
So worth it for $60 then guys?
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: MCD on February 18, 2009, 01:58:53 AM
like most fighting games, only if you have someone to play with.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on February 18, 2009, 02:00:46 AM
Soy un papador :(
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: MCD on February 18, 2009, 02:08:52 AM
I'm very sorry.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on February 18, 2009, 02:19:46 AM
It's okay, the voices and my cat keep my company.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 18, 2009, 03:12:09 AM
It's yet another company getting greedy with DLC.  Except that this is NOT DLC, it's just Capcom charging money for UNLOCK KEYS.  These outfits are all already in the game, this is major bullshit.  It's not going to cost too much overall, sure, but it wasn't needed.  They are already offering an LE version for $20 more!  It's Soul Calibur IV all over again.  At least there's no exclusive 360 or PS3-onlytime-release unlock-key characters in this title.

They should have offered additional outfits not found in the arcade version (or a third for everyone) instead of this.  But I'm a sucker and I will pay them for these outfits, and the cycle will continue.    :-\

Wait, was Darth Vader eventually playable in the X360 version? Or were 360 players just stuck with Yoda-only, because... um, "he's green too"?
Earlier today my friend told me that you can get him in the 360 version for 400 MS points. :-\

Yeah, Namco released Vader on 360 and Yoda on PS3.  Unlock keys as well I am sure, especially since there was always a spot for one more character on the select screen.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: pilonv1 on February 18, 2009, 04:26:35 AM
ill be laughed out of here but you know this is surprisingly decent to play with the analog stick
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Kestastrophe on February 18, 2009, 08:21:54 AM
The other widely avaliable Hori stick --well before the SFIV hype-- is the Fighting Stick EX2, which is the stock Soul Calibur 4/DOA4 stick.  It retails around 60 bucks.  You can mod it but it requires soldering for the stick and the buttons are not easily swappable.  It's currently sold out in Amazon. 

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31WqqifiQhL._SL500_AA280_.jpg)

You can get this from Gamestop for $40. I picked one up last week

http://www.gamestop.com/Catalog/ProductDetails.aspx?product_id=42265&affID=77777&sourceID=FKSJxY2VJAk-cORAo2xOipPiUOWdnxKQSg (http://www.gamestop.com/Catalog/ProductDetails.aspx?product_id=42265&affID=77777&sourceID=FKSJxY2VJAk-cORAo2xOipPiUOWdnxKQSg)
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: tiesto on February 18, 2009, 09:39:33 AM
I've been suffering with the analog stick/dpad... got the game yesterday night but they didn't have any pads in stock. Today I'll trawl around Nassau looking for one. Been playing online, seems everyone is playing as Ryu and Ken, go figure. I've been attempting Sagat and C Viper, haven't won very much but still practicing. I really like the countering/focus attack system. The music is cool too, hell even "Indestructable" is growing on me.

Any tips on beating Seth in arcade mode?
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 18, 2009, 10:46:57 AM
Seth sucks - what a punk bitch.  I'd constantly create a ton of space and wait till he did that sucking motion or dumb Dhalsim punch, then go in with a kick and sweeping roundhouse.  Keep him at bay with specials.  Rinse, lather, repeat.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Jansen on February 18, 2009, 11:15:01 AM
bestbuy.com has the pads in stock. i just ordered one

hope it gets here by early next week at the latest
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Human Snorenado on February 18, 2009, 11:27:40 AM
Must... resist... urge to get SFIV. 

I don't really have a bunch of extra money right now, since my freelancing has dried up almost completely over the last couple months (2G2D, natch) and I know I would probably just get annoyed with my lack of a) anyone to play against since I know just about no one in town and my modem hates me when I try to sign up for XBL and b) I'd have to shell out another $40 at least for a fight pad.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 18, 2009, 11:49:17 AM
Must... resist... urge to get SFIV. 

I don't really have a bunch of extra money right now, since my freelancing has dried up almost completely over the last couple months (2G2D, natch) and I know I would probably just get annoyed with my lack of a) anyone to play against since I know just about no one in town and my modem hates me when I try to sign up for XBL and b) I'd have to shell out another $40 at least for a fight pad.

I will play you... on the Internets!

Game is awesome.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Human Snorenado on February 18, 2009, 11:51:39 AM
Yo, I don't have an XBL gold account.  I *DO* have a 3 month card, but every time I try to sign up my cable modem mocks my efforts and I'm too lazy to call Time Warner or XBL to figure it out.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Herr Mafflard on February 18, 2009, 11:58:54 AM
Mine should be here with a Ken fightpad in a couple of days coz I'm in Europe.

My objective is to train up until I'm good enough to beat lyte edge. I'm thinking this could take at least a couple of years, so in the meantime I will take pleasure in whupping Willco. Hopefully, he is as bad as I am at fighters.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 18, 2009, 12:34:24 PM
yeah, i think i'll pass

i don't really have the money either, and i know i'll just end up getting my ass beaten dozens of times before i throw my hands up in the air and give up
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: CurseoftheGods on February 18, 2009, 12:56:34 PM
INSTALLING GAME :hyper

SONG SUCKS ASS, HAD TO MUTE TV :hyper
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on February 18, 2009, 01:03:19 PM
I have the money for one game, but I dont know if I want this or MLB 09. I know MLB 09 will last me a year while this might last me a week before it gets old.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 18, 2009, 01:07:42 PM
C'mon, Eel, I'll play you!
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: MMaRsu on February 18, 2009, 01:09:27 PM
INSTALLING GAME :hyper

SONG SUCKS ASS, HAD TO MUTE TV :hyper

Put it on Japanese, after a while it's great and stuck in your head

The game is awesome, I love kicking noobs asses online. Got over 900BP right now.
I'm not that great myself, but I just beat some Ken guy while I had Sakura, my controller died after my first win, I pressed the guide button, did a couple of asskicking moves, controller died, pressed guide, won.

Lol~!

Add me : GT = MMaRsu NL
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on February 18, 2009, 01:14:20 PM
Any of you fools on the superior PS3 version?
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Kestastrophe on February 18, 2009, 01:34:15 PM
Don't do it Eel. Remember when you said that the $15 you spent on SFIIHD would have been better put to use by wiping your ass? Just sayin
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: cool breeze on February 18, 2009, 02:00:12 PM
SF4 buttfucks Hd Remix

longest day ever right now.  Too many midterms when sick and SF4 at home where I should be. 
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 18, 2009, 02:41:20 PM
Picked up the regular version of SFIV (PS3), I talked myself out of the Collector's Edition.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Bebpo on February 18, 2009, 02:47:40 PM
Man, no luck.  I went to 4 stores (Best Buy, Target, Gamestop, mom&pop store) figuring it'd be easy to find since it's Wednesday already but every store either didn't get it yet or had completely sold out of their first shipment.  I guess I'll check again tonight.  :\
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 18, 2009, 02:49:31 PM
I got mine at Best Buy, they had a few copies of each.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 18, 2009, 03:10:54 PM
I ended up getting a PS3 CE at Best Buy after all.  They only had three CEs (behind the counter); I told them I had reserved one but lost the receipt, didn't care about eating the $5 blah blah blah, and the guy gave it to me.  Since they had no problem with this, it tells me that anyone could walk in and say the same thing.   :lol

Saw maybe 5-6 copies of the regular version on the shelves.

I would get the CE if you care about the movie.  The box is flimsy as hell, the Ryu figurine is tiny n' crappy (and mine is scuffed up), the "collector's hint book" is just a few pages, and the included unlock key for the first costume pack doesn't even work right now ( :lol).  But the Blu-Ray comes in its own nice case, with space for the soundtrack CD (which has the character themes only, no stage themes), which is nice I guess.  The Japanese version (no CE, you get the DVD regardless) just comes in a clear CD case.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 18, 2009, 03:12:19 PM
I was only interested in the anime Blu-ray, but in the end I figured I'd probably watch it once and then forget about it.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Bebpo on February 18, 2009, 03:13:29 PM
The Best Buy near me was like "oh, were not getting it until 2pm", yet when I check the store pickup online it says they have the game.  I think they just didn't want to go to the back and take it out  :maf
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 18, 2009, 03:15:58 PM
I was only interested in the anime Blu-ray, but in the end I figured I'd probably watch it once and then forget about it.

If it wasn't SF, I wouldn't have bothered.  You know it's gonna be ripped and up for download soon enough if not already anyway.

The Best Buy near me was like "oh, were not getting it until 2pm", yet when I check the store pickup online it says they have the game.  I think they just didn't want to go to the back and take it out  :maf

That's bullshit, Best Buy has had this game in the back since last weekend.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Akala on February 18, 2009, 03:16:07 PM
Only a few hours left!  :hyper

Picked it up at Gamestop for lunch, Target hadn't gotten them in yet.

Will play a bit tonight, digging into it will have to wait until next week though.  :'(
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 18, 2009, 03:25:06 PM
Don't do it Eel. Remember when you said that the $15 you spent on SFIIHD would have been better put to use by wiping your ass? Just sayin

:lol
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 18, 2009, 03:41:14 PM
LOL, the PS3 fight pad I got is screwing up.  Now it registers left, down, and right as the kick buttons. 

Wireless.   :-\

Mad Catz.   :-\ :-\
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 18, 2009, 03:41:18 PM
So I've unlocked all characters but Seth and Gouken.  What's the easiest character perform an ultra with? I'm going to attempt to unlock Gouken.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 18, 2009, 03:41:45 PM
LOL, the PS3 fight pad I got is screwing up.  Now it registers left, down, and right as the kick buttons. 

Wireless.   :-\

Mad Catz.   :-\ :-\

Should've went with the superior 360 version.  I've got three pads and NO PROBLEMS.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: MCD on February 18, 2009, 03:47:33 PM
LOL, the PS3 fight pad I got is screwing up.  Now it registers left, down, and right as the kick buttons. 

Wireless.   :-\

Mad Catz.   :-\ :-\
can you resync it?
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Akala on February 18, 2009, 03:59:46 PM
LOL, the PS3 fight pad I got is screwing up.  Now it registers left, down, and right as the kick buttons. 

Wireless.   :-\

Mad Catz.   :-\ :-\

oh god now I'm scared.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 18, 2009, 04:09:21 PM
LOL, the PS3 fight pad I got is screwing up.  Now it registers left, down, and right as the kick buttons. 

Wireless.   :-\

Mad Catz.   :-\ :-\

Should've went with the superior 360 version.  I've got three pads and NO PROBLEMS.

LOL-ton.  Where you been?  I got it on 360 last week, and a fight pad for 360 before that.   ;)  I'm double-dippin'!

Hey, send me a friend request so I can kick your ass all over play some friendly matches!  :hyper

LOL, the PS3 fight pad I got is screwing up.  Now it registers left, down, and right as the kick buttons. 

Wireless.   :-\

Mad Catz.   :-\ :-\
can you resync it?

There's no sync option in the first place!

The weird thing is, I switched to HD Remix and it WORKS FINE for the most part.  Then I got to SF4 and it's fucked up.   :lol
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: cool breeze on February 18, 2009, 04:24:59 PM
that's weird

HD Remix and SF4 do feel different even when pulling off the same moves.  Like, pulling off a dragon punch is much easier in SF4, but doing a super is harder.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 18, 2009, 04:30:57 PM
Well, it's going back to the store.  I think I am gonna give Mad Catz the benefit of the doubt and chalk it up as a defective controller, and just get two from Amazon.  If they don't work Amazon will take them back.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: cool breeze on February 18, 2009, 04:32:04 PM
btw, SF4 is one of the few PS3 games to support custom soundtracks from the XMB. 
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 18, 2009, 04:33:14 PM
btw, SF4 is one of the few PS3 games to support custom soundtracks from the XMB. 

If you can't set the music to individual stages, I don't care.  That would have been a cool option and made the CD from the CE "worth it" in that you can assign character themes to stages.  Oh well...
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 18, 2009, 04:34:40 PM
Hey, send me a friend request so I can kick your ass all over play some friendly matches!  :hyper

We will never play together.

Want to answer my prior question, though - of all the characters, who has the easiest super to pull off?
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 18, 2009, 04:43:03 PM
Okay, my PS3-owning friends talked me into getting the PS3 version, with the promise that one of them would buy it from me for $50 if I end up hating it.  Since I'm using $10 worth of Best Buy reward zone coupons, this will end up costing me sales tax to try.  Good enough.

Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 18, 2009, 04:45:05 PM
Way to purchase the graphically inferior version with smaller online user base, Eel!

smh
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 18, 2009, 04:45:38 PM
send me a working 360 and I'll change my mind
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 18, 2009, 04:47:30 PM
Talk to your co-host, buddy.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 18, 2009, 04:50:18 PM
Also, if I hated the 360 version no one would buy it from me for $50

360 gets boxed up and sent to the MS sweatshop tomorrow, I'll live with whatever cat hair filter they send back a month from now

prole does enough favors for me already*

spoiler (click to show/hide)
*  :-*
[close]
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 18, 2009, 05:02:56 PM
The 360 version has had tons of players online in ranked since it came out last week.  I just tried a ranked match on PS3 and no one is available.  I am beginning to feel like double-dipping on this game was a stupid idea.

Hey, send me a friend request so I can kick your ass all over play some friendly matches!  :hyper

We will never play together.

Want to answer my prior question, though - of all the characters, who has the easiest super to pull off?

Hey, fuck you too buddy.   :-\ :'(

What do you mean "who has the easiest super to pull off?"  Most characters' supers are all done the same way!  It's either gonna be two quarter-circle forward motions, charge back, forward, back, forward, 360 motions (Zangief), or charge db, df, db, uf (Guile, Vega).
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: demi on February 18, 2009, 05:11:48 PM
I would buy it from you Eel for $30
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 18, 2009, 05:18:04 PM
Is it possible the PS3 controllers can get interference from other devices?  I shut off my wife's laptop and now the pad works fine.  ???
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 18, 2009, 05:20:18 PM
PS3 :lol

And lyte, I like playing the game, but I'm not sure I'd like getting my ego bruised!
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 18, 2009, 05:32:38 PM
So the pad went back to being fucked up after I turned the laptop back on.  And turning it off again didn't "fix" it this time.  Dunno what to do now.  The Mad Catz pad is perfect for SF4 and other controllers I tried just don't work as well to me.  I think it's back to 360 for now.

PS3 :lol

And lyte, I like playing the game, but I'm not sure I'd like getting my ego bruised!

S'good practice to play others, mang.  Plus you're gonna get your ass kicked whether you like it or not if you play online matches.   :P
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: demi on February 18, 2009, 05:33:22 PM
I wouldn't want to play Lyte, I bet he jerks off when he wins. Kind of like a spastic monkey.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 18, 2009, 05:35:06 PM
Gamertag is The Fake Shemp
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 18, 2009, 05:56:40 PM
I wouldn't want to play Lyte, I bet he jerks off when he wins. Kind of like a spastic monkey.

I jerk off to every post you make, demi.  Lost count of how many keyboards have been ruined.  :hump
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: demi on February 18, 2009, 05:57:52 PM
Prove it
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 18, 2009, 06:10:22 PM
Prove it

I was looking for a stupid image to post, and this came up. 

http://www.goteenforums.com/forums/peer-yayenoo-support-a.html

 :lol

Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on February 18, 2009, 06:20:23 PM
Anyone want to play with me? :( Please? PS3? :(
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 18, 2009, 06:26:37 PM
I play you, I just beat arcade mode on my own. Give me a minute.

PSN name distantmantra
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on February 18, 2009, 06:34:39 PM
I'll be home in a few hours :O add me on PSN though, BostonCollegeFan <3
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 18, 2009, 06:36:55 PM
Anyone want to play with me? :( Please? PS3? :(

 :lol

Dudes need to get a real console.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on February 18, 2009, 06:47:15 PM
STFU fatty. It's the exact same game.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: demi on February 18, 2009, 06:47:52 PM
I tried playing it and I kept running into these invisible fucking walls. Fucking Capcom and their buggy games
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on February 18, 2009, 06:49:17 PM
Atleast one can be played without investing $80 more.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: demi on February 18, 2009, 06:58:23 PM
So... you're saying the 360 version is the way to go
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on February 18, 2009, 06:59:56 PM
No, i'm saying the PS3 verison has a controllre that is actually playable.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on February 18, 2009, 07:01:24 PM
You guys are cuban.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on February 18, 2009, 07:03:32 PM
I can't insult the fellow mexicans anymore, so yes. You are a dirty conspiracist.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Akala on February 18, 2009, 07:31:58 PM
oh this song is terrible. wtf were they thinking. strike one.  :'(
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on February 18, 2009, 07:38:50 PM
BostonCollegeFan but i'm not home yet :( may have to take it up with you guys tommorow. The gf is home though, so dunno what shes playin.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 18, 2009, 07:39:36 PM
:lol oh those animated cut scenes
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: demi on February 18, 2009, 07:46:46 PM
Wow that's pretty good. Allow me to declare the time of annihilation...

7:44:10 PM
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on February 18, 2009, 07:47:28 PM
Fuck you feggits. Atleast my CE is superior.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: drew on February 18, 2009, 07:50:53 PM
stop being a faggot methodis
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on February 18, 2009, 07:52:03 PM
Stop acting like which version of a game you have matters to anyone who isn't lonely.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: demi on February 18, 2009, 07:52:49 PM
So it's settled then - 360 version it is
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: drew on February 18, 2009, 07:53:28 PM
i dont own this game

and i was referring to the entire site

not just this thread
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on February 18, 2009, 07:54:45 PM
Whatever Drewsy, go act like you're nothing more than a token black guy on this board.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: drew on February 18, 2009, 07:55:26 PM
lmao
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 18, 2009, 08:12:03 PM
I got both, therefore I am qualified to answer:

STFU fatty. It's the exact same game.

Well, except for the fact that the PS3 versions switches to some weird resolution on occasion, has no AA, and most importantly has shittier online.  Add to that the install needed to get the load times down to the same level as the 360, and online is even WORSE since you get distinguished mentally-challenged fellows who didn't install, so pile on the waiting times!

No, i'm saying the PS3 verison has a controllre that is actually playable.

It has a better D-PAD, sure.  But the bottom line is, you want to play this game right, you NEED a joystick or suitable fighting pad on either system.  I am having a terrible time with the PS3 controller, and I am fine with it for everything else.   This game's use of two or three buttons together (for throws, focus attacks, ultras, and some special moves) means you NEED a better layout than either stock pad can give you.  Period.

Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 18, 2009, 08:18:57 PM
but you can set a shoulder button to do those things
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Bebpo on February 18, 2009, 08:22:24 PM
I dunno, the game looks crappy regardless AA or super resolution or not.  I mean it animates well, but I'm surprised Capcom isn't doing a Wii port since the visuals wouldn't take much of a hit.

Online is always better on X360, but I can't say I've had any lag playing people on the PS3 even when the bars are low, so it's perfectly acceptable.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 18, 2009, 08:26:12 PM
yeah, i've noticed you clip right through characters when you do a KO
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: tiesto on February 18, 2009, 08:29:53 PM
oh this song is terrible. wtf were they thinking. strike one.  :'(

I've had that song stuck in my head since I got it... I actually kinda like it a bit :shrug
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 18, 2009, 09:07:18 PM
man my thumb is already chewed up
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 18, 2009, 09:48:53 PM
Seth is pretty fucking cheap at times, and at other times, he's really easy.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 18, 2009, 09:49:53 PM
i slide-cheesed him on blanka, but he lit my ass up several times when i was using guile
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Rman on February 18, 2009, 10:41:05 PM
man my thumb is already chewed up
See. 

I've always hated the D-pad on Playstation controllers and could never understand why people have sung its praises.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 18, 2009, 10:41:58 PM
i don't think the 360 would be any better, though
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: cool breeze on February 18, 2009, 10:44:26 PM
big difference between them is that the PS3 d-pad is usable, still fucks up your finger.  360 one isn't usable.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Rman on February 18, 2009, 10:46:05 PM
i don't think the 360 would be any better, though
I agree; they are both terrible.  I thought you were going to get a fightpad?  If you are on PS3 you can also try getting a Saturn USB pad.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 18, 2009, 10:47:39 PM
I hate be one of those "shoto scrubs" that people over at GAF complain about, but Ken has always been my favorite character to use. I played some guy online and beat him six times in a row. It's not like I'm good or anything, but I wondered why he didn't log off, he just kept coming at me and getting killed.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 18, 2009, 10:55:56 PM
I dunno, the game looks crappy regardless AA or super resolution or not.  I mean it animates well, but I'm surprised Capcom isn't doing a Wii port since the visuals wouldn't take much of a hit.

It's more detailed than it seems, and the animation is amazing.  And having seen this game squished into a non-HD 4:3 cab in the arcades, it ain't pretty that way.   :lol  I think they could do a scaled-down version too.  Fuck Wii though, I'd want a PSP version.

Quote
Online is always better on X360, but I can't say I've had any lag playing people on the PS3 even when the bars are low, so it's perfectly acceptable.

Is there any reason you got this on PS3 over 360?  Controllers?  

but you can set a shoulder button to do those things

They are not as responsive as they should be, ESPECIALLY the triggers.  I am making due with the standard six axis right now by using the two shoulder buttons for medium kick and punch.  It's responsive enough that I can get out the focus attack every time when I need it.  The triggers are set to 3P and 3K.  I find it easy enough to do 3K with just the face buttons and shoulder button, and 3P works well enough when I need it (for who I play that's pretty much just Zangief).

But I am still having a more difficult time playing it with the standard pad versus the Mad Catz pad, no question.  I am still winning but losing a lot more life due to fuck-ups with the controller...when I want to do a move in the middle of a match, sometimes it won't come out as easily as it does with the fight pad.  Add lag and it creates problems.

Pad or stick preferences aside, SF4 NEEDS a six button face layout.  It's just not meant for triggers/shoulder buttons.  You can't set everything to one button because you NEED to be able to do 3P, 3K, throw, and focus attack easily.  That leaves you with two extra buttons, best served for 3P and 3K, on a standard controller.

In some of the previous SF home ports, they simplified things and made it so you only needed two buttons instead of three to do moves like Zangief's lariat, but they can't do that now because of EX attacks.  I do wish that they took a page out of HD Remix and simplified some moves to make it easier to play with a standard pad.  This and the lack of any kind of real training mode (it doesn't show you how to do anything, not even demos in the challenge levels, WTF?) are my biggest complaints with the game.  (Next would be the lack of new characters)

Seth is pretty fucking cheap at times, and at other times, he's really easy.

You just gotta figure out which attacks take him down.  There's always a pattern that works for everybody, and may just be basic punch and kick stuff, no specials.  For example I am not a Dhalsim player and had the HARDEST time beating him.  Just wanted to clear it with everyone to get Seth.  Anyway, here's what worked:

Round 1- Spam the shit out his hard punch spear (down and punch), land and immediately do headbutt (back and hard punch).  Worked every time, I was perfecting Seth's cheap ass.

Round 2- This is where it took me a bunch of tries.  In the end?  Spam standing and jumping hard punches, and hard kicks.  Dhalsim can also dash right under his Sonic Booms.  The end.  I beat the game with 'Sim the first time when I got the PS3 version today.   :D

I hate be one of those "shoto scrubs" that people over at GAF complain about, but Ken has always been my favorite character to use. I played some guy online and beat him six times in a row. It's not like I'm good or anything, but I wondered why he didn't log off, he just kept coming at me and getting killed.

There's nothing wrong with using Ryu or Ken if you play them WELL.  It's the guys that just pick them and do nothing but FB FB FB FB FB FB FB DP FB FB FB DP SWEEP SWEEP SWEEP JUMP KICK SWEEP DP FB FB FB FB that people are hating on.  It's boring as fuck fighting them, and if they're low-ranked (likely have 0 BP), you don't get jack shit for beating them once you have enough BP in ranked.  I only enjoy it when it's some trash-talking distinguished mentally-challenged fellow that you just murder, and watch as they scream and bitch the whole time.   :lol

But one definite weakness with Ryu and Ken, perhaps more than any other character, is that because they are so popular, they are also much more predictable.

For you guys just getting into this game or back into fighters after a long time, one piece of advice I can give you that will work WONDERS against these "shoto scrubs" is to simply NOT JUMP.  Just walk up to them and be amazed as they do endless dragon punches, which you will block or avoid, leaving room to punish them for this over and over and OVER again.  It's uncanny that after all these years, some people just cannot fathom another player not jumping into their "invincible" dragon punch.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 18, 2009, 10:57:42 PM
i dunno, i'm just not that into it

i can build up a callous pretty easily
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 18, 2009, 11:13:02 PM
i dunno, i'm just not that into it

i can build up a callous pretty easily

Out of curiosity, what got you into trying this as opposed to the 3343242343434 other fighters out there? 
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Bebpo on February 18, 2009, 11:20:58 PM
Quote
Online is always better on X360, but I can't say I've had any lag playing people on the PS3 even when the bars are low, so it's perfectly acceptable.

Is there any reason you got this on PS3 over 360?  Controllers?  


Pretty much everyone I know around in RL and would actually enjoy playing against online got the PS3 version, so yeah.  The controller thing is nice for 2p too.

Though really, after I spent a couple hours unlocking characters I realized I was bored playing the cpu and for me personally fighting random people online is kinda boring, so I put the game away and went back to playing other stuff.  I'll still play it once or twice a week against local friends offline 2p or online 2p, but VF really has killed my interest in other fighting games :|  It's the only game where I enjoy 1p because of the strong and varied AI's plus all the costumes and constant money/item gaining for your guy + challenges and the item system + costumes makes online w/strangers just as fun.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 19, 2009, 12:05:59 AM
i dunno, i'm just not that into it

i can build up a callous pretty easily

Out of curiosity, what got you into trying this as opposed to the 3343242343434 other fighters out there? 

my friends and i used to play sf2 on genesis quite a bit
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: ch1nchilla on February 19, 2009, 01:00:21 AM
I picked this up today, and I fucking suck at it. I blame the shit-ass 360 d-pad.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 19, 2009, 02:31:55 AM
I just played some matches against Haunts (he's the one doing the guide for 1up); he kicked my ass expected (his Sagat is BRUTAL.  BRUTAL!!), but I shocked myself with seven wins against his 16.   :lol  Anyway, he's been playing the home version for about three months now, and he said the general opinion is that Gouken and Seth really aren't much (Seth in particular kinda sucks; don't be expecting to do massive damage like the boss version does when you unlock him) and probably won't be banzored by the hardcore, so whiney tourneyfag worshippers (y'know, the guys who take everything said on the internets as gospel yet never actually go to or play in tourneys) might not be bitching about using them online.  Haven't come across any Seth players yet, now that I think about it.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Rman on February 19, 2009, 02:48:09 AM
Good games, Cohen.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 19, 2009, 03:06:44 AM
i dunno, i'm just not that into it

i can build up a callous pretty easily

Out of curiosity, what got you into trying this as opposed to the 3343242343434 other fighters out there? 

my friends and i used to play sf2 on genesis quite a bit

Did you guys get into Street Fighter Alpha 3?  I ask because it seems like a lot of people are drawn to SF4 for the "SF2 factor," even though Alpha 3 did the same thing about 10 years ago, having all the characters from SF2, and even SF2-style game play mode settings...
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Bebpo on February 19, 2009, 03:23:08 AM
Alpha 3 rocked because it had like 8,000 characters which was amazing for the time.  Plus the alpha series had a lot of interesting originals like Cody, Gen, Rose, Adon, Sodom, Birdie, Rolento.  Even Charlie, like Remy, was a more interesting Guile.  Also I liked how Alpha introduced having multiple supers to choose from instead of being stuck with one predictable one.  Not a fan of how SFIV went back to one for 99% of it's characters. 

SFIV's roster is a good size but too many familiars and Gouken is another shoto.   :punch
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: demi on February 19, 2009, 03:31:49 AM
A fellow d-pad superior, welcome to the club  8)
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 19, 2009, 03:38:12 AM
Alpha 3 rocked because it had like 8,000 characters which was amazing for the time.  Plus the alpha series had a lot of interesting originals like Cody, Gen, Rose, Adon, Sodom, Birdie, Rolento.  Even Charlie, like Remy, was a more interesting Guile.  Also I liked how Alpha introduced having multiple supers to choose from instead of being stuck with one predictable one.  Not a fan of how SFIV went back to one for 99% of it's characters.

Alpha 3 is one of my all-time favorite games, period.  Alpha in general, really (yes, even the original).  I never got into SF3 very much; I loved that they started over with brand new characters (and I wish Ryu and Ken had stayed CUT like originally planned), but I was never a fan of a lot of the 3rd Strike designs and just didn't really enjoy the parry system.  2nd Impact is probably the highlight of that series for me.  I had an arcade board for it briefly and played the shit out of it, but kind of lost interest when 3rd Strike came along.  I love using Chun but I hated what they did to her in 3s.  So boring to use.  Hugo was fun to use and so was Elena, but it just didn't grab me like the other Street Fighters did.  I'll take SF2 or Alpha over SF3 any day.

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SFIV's roster is a good size but too many familiars and Gouken is another shoto.   :punch

WTF NO!
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Robo on February 19, 2009, 03:49:35 AM
I just played some nitwit who chose Gouken and then dropped connection after I beat him the first round.  smh
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 19, 2009, 03:55:42 AM
I just played some nitwit who chose Gouken and then dropped connection after I beat him the first round.  smh

Yup, Gouken really ain't that great.  I think he's kinda interesting for a not-really-a-shoto-but-he-might-seem-that-way character.  He's got a nice counter move. 
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Robo on February 19, 2009, 04:03:07 AM
He's gotta really nice Ultra too that's pretty effective as anti-air and really easy to combo into.  I haven't seen anything really surprising yet, though.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 19, 2009, 04:08:21 AM
He's gotta really nice Ultra too that's pretty effective as anti-air and really easy to combo into.  I haven't seen anything really surprising yet, though.

He's kinda decent at taking out distinguished mentally-challenged fellows, particularly your typical shoto scrub who likes to jump in at you all day.  Just do his medium or hard fireball, and it goes at an upward angle, Oro-style.  Scrubs are all  :o :maf, and you're all  8) ::).
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 19, 2009, 05:20:25 AM
DLC (AKA Unlock Key) #2, the Beauty Pack, is up for Japan on both consoles.  I was just trying those characters briefly and already received some "OMG WHERE DID U GET THAT!?!??!?1111" messages.  That didn't happen with the last pack, wonder why.   :lol
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 19, 2009, 07:19:15 AM
i dunno, i'm just not that into it

i can build up a callous pretty easily

Out of curiosity, what got you into trying this as opposed to the 3343242343434 other fighters out there? 

my friends and i used to play sf2 on genesis quite a bit

Did you guys get into Street Fighter Alpha 3?  I ask because it seems like a lot of people are drawn to SF4 for the "SF2 factor," even though Alpha 3 did the same thing about 10 years ago, having all the characters from SF2, and even SF2-style game play mode settings...

no, we never got much into alpha

the next fighting game we got into was tekken, but that didn't last long - we never really got as obsessed with another one after sf2

i'm fine with the ds3 pad, and can pull off most stuff okay - those corners are just digging into my thumb
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: MMaRsu on February 19, 2009, 07:28:53 AM
havent seen ANY dlc pack yet :(

I'm not that great, but got 420 achievements already, and including the 10 ranked matches in a row. Which wasn't hard.

I like using shoto characters, I guess that makes me a noob. I like Akuma, Ken, Fei-Long and Sakura. Oh and Sagat is cool too, although I'm not that good with him.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Himu on February 19, 2009, 07:32:07 AM
Alpha 3 nostalgia is so highhhhhhhhhhh
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 19, 2009, 07:33:20 AM
i think i'm a blanka guy now

i used to like guile a lot, but blanka's moves are just easier to pull off
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Cheebs on February 19, 2009, 08:47:05 AM
I agree Alpha series >>>> SFIII. I don't even want to figure out how many different ports of Alpha 3 I have bought over the years, far too many.

It made it hard for me to play SF II HD Remix, the improvements from the alpha games made it hard to go back to in SFII. And that is one problem I had with SF IV. I wish it had more Alpha characters, only 4? Come on. Hopefully in the various updates (Ono implied they will probably do a Championship Edition at some point) we'll get a few more. I rather have a few more Alpha folk than T. Hawk and DeeJay anyway.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 19, 2009, 08:49:15 AM
Abel is a total spammer.  I haven't won too many matches online, but I've won like two with Abel. :lol
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: tiesto on February 19, 2009, 09:01:56 AM
For you guys just getting into this game or back into fighters after a long time, one piece of advice I can give you that will work WONDERS against these "shoto scrubs" is to simply NOT JUMP.  Just walk up to them and be amazed as they do endless dragon punches, which you will block or avoid, leaving room to punish them for this over and over and OVER again.  It's uncanny that after all these years, some people just cannot fathom another player not jumping into their "invincible" dragon punch.

When fighting a shoto, what's the best way to advance when they break out the projectiles? I have been jumping over them, to mixed success.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Human Snorenado on February 19, 2009, 10:26:22 AM
Meh, I'm like one of the only people I know who liked SF III (especially 3rd Strike) better than Alpha.  I liked SF II just fine, too, tho.  But I really dug 3rd Strike.

I really want to pick this up, but due to the lack of fightpad availability I'll probably hold off for a bit.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Grecco on February 19, 2009, 10:38:00 AM
Picked it up yesterday but went to 7 stores looking for a fightpad and stuck out :(

Not really digging SF so far... Might be the shit stock X360 pad... but Guile and Zangief are soooooo different now
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Robo on February 19, 2009, 11:04:36 AM
Am I crazy or is Dan actually decent in this game?

For those of you who've picked up the TE sticks; have they continued to meet your expectations now that you've gotten a day or two or real world use?

He's not as bad as he is in some other games.  He's gotta decent DP, a usable fireball (a big change for Dan), and a few good pokes.  His hurricane kick is pretty shitty, but does good damage in its EX form.  The light version gives you a little hop-over mix-up against rising opponents that has some use.  His super is typically awful, but you should probably be using all your meter on EX anyway.

As for the TE stick -- the thing fucking rocks.  It's the best out-of-the-box stick I've ever used and perfectly satisfies all of my personal preferences. :bow Madcatz :bow2 

I should add that after playing around with the FightStick quite a bit, I think it's exceptional, and if I weren't so concerned about the reliability and longevity of the Madcatz components, I would have been fine with having that one instead.  I think it's better than the HORI EX2, anyway.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Grecco on February 19, 2009, 12:07:40 PM
I might be forced to get the Hori Ex :(
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Robo on February 19, 2009, 12:24:06 PM
I have a grudge against that particular HORI stick, but other folks EX2s that I've used weren't quite as bad as mine; I got shafted with a defective stick that was retardedly loose out of the box and didn't return to neutral without some help, and then the PCB shattered without any good reason leaving me with an ugly green pile of scrap.  I'm not exactly a fan of any of HORI's other sticks either.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: cool breeze on February 19, 2009, 12:46:20 PM
having to unlock characters is distinguished mentally-challenged

 
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 19, 2009, 01:47:55 PM
Unlocking characters always sucks, but at least you can get the regular six super-fast.  Akuma and Gouken aren't too bad either...it's just Seth that's tedious.

I think they should of just had Gouken and Seth (MAYBE Akuma) as hidden unlockable characters, and everyone else open from the start.  You already have to unlock titles, icons, personal actions, character colors, artwork, and movies...isn't that enough?

havent seen ANY dlc pack yet :(

I'm not that great, but got 420 achievements already, and including the 10 ranked matches in a row. Which wasn't hard.

I like using shoto characters, I guess that makes me a noob. I like Akuma, Ken, Fei-Long and Sakura. Oh and Sagat is cool too, although I'm not that good with him.

Hey, you already have 81 wins in ranked, that's great!   I think you are beyond noob.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: cool breeze on February 19, 2009, 01:56:33 PM
you can unlock costumes and new taunts?
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 19, 2009, 02:08:20 PM
you can unlock costumes and new taunts?

Not costumes, colors.  They are keeping the costume as lame "DLC" unlock-keys.  Personal actions aren't taunts...I can't figure out what the hell they are, actually.   :lol  (Maybe it's what they say during taunts, I never pay attention to it.)

You can get all the extra colors by going through time attack and survival NORMAL levels 1-16.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Bebpo on February 19, 2009, 02:09:37 PM
Man, I fought Gouken twice without getting him before I read you had to beat it with Akuma first :\
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Rman on February 19, 2009, 02:58:29 PM
This game is polished to hell.  The IU elements are a big step above from Capcom's previous stuff.  Everything seems more intuitive, like choosing the difficulty at the arcade mode screen instead of going into the options. 
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: MMaRsu on February 19, 2009, 03:04:14 PM
Unlocking characters always sucks, but at least you can get the regular six super-fast.  Akuma and Gouken aren't too bad either...it's just Seth that's tedious.

I think they should of just had Gouken and Seth (MAYBE Akuma) as hidden unlockable characters, and everyone else open from the start.  You already have to unlock titles, icons, personal actions, character colors, artwork, and movies...isn't that enough?

havent seen ANY dlc pack yet :(

I'm not that great, but got 420 achievements already, and including the 10 ranked matches in a row. Which wasn't hard.

I like using shoto characters, I guess that makes me a noob. I like Akuma, Ken, Fei-Long and Sakura. Oh and Sagat is cool too, although I'm not that good with him.

Hey, you already have 81 wins in ranked, that's great!   I think you are beyond noob.

Heh thanks man, although I must admit I still don't think I'm good. I still use 'shoto' chars like Ken,Akuma, Sakura and Fei Long. The DLC pack isn't available in my country for some strange strange reason. Oh well. We should play some matches again sometime ^_^.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 19, 2009, 04:13:28 PM

Heh thanks man, although I must admit I still don't think I'm good. I still use 'shoto' chars like Ken,Akuma, Sakura and Fei Long. The DLC pack isn't available in my country for some strange strange reason. Oh well. We should play some matches again sometime ^_^.

Fei Long's no shoto, and Sakura is kinda different.  The same boring tactics can't really be done with her.  She has a lot of nice combos.  When it comes to "shotos" I like using Dan and Sakura.

If you don't mind paying a bit more, you can always get a U.S. or Japan account and then buy points online.  I use stuff bought on my Japanese account on my main U.S. account all the time.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: cool breeze on February 19, 2009, 04:16:54 PM
just unlocking characters is making me so angry.  It's made worse now that the cpu is a grab happy whore.  What the fuck Capcom.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: archie4208 on February 19, 2009, 04:19:25 PM
I would honestly pay money for an unlock all code.  I have no desire to play through arcade a billion times to get every character.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: cool breeze on February 19, 2009, 04:20:47 PM
I've given up on getting Seth at this point.  He's a piece of shit multi-character anyway.  I just need Gouken now and there are 50 wrong methods on the internet, so I'm going through the motions and nothing is happening.  This is annoying.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 19, 2009, 04:28:08 PM
I've given up on getting Seth at this point.  He's a piece of shit multi-character anyway.  I just need Gouken now and there are 50 wrong methods on the internet, so I'm going through the motions and nothing is happening.  This is annoying.

The safe, guaranteed way to get Gouken:

-Make sure you have Akuma unlocked AND have completed the game with him once!
-Now pick any character.  You can play on an easier difficulty level and at one round (leave the timer at 99).
-Get two perfects and four (three may work) ultra-finishes before you reach Seth.
-Make sure not to lose a round, BUT remember that if Seth or anyone else is being a little bitch, you can always hit start on controller 2 to interrupt the match right before you lose, and when you go back to arcade mode, you will start the match over with no losses!

I did this with Ryu, and did NOTHING but spam fireballs over and over on the very easy difficulty.  Getting perfects the first two matches was a snap this way.  On easy difficulties, the CPU also falls for his ultra pretty easily.

Seth can be a bitch to get (it took me so many tries to clear the game with Dhalsim alone), but once you get used to his bullshit things get easier.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Enl on February 19, 2009, 04:36:58 PM
Am I crazy or is Dan actually decent in this game?

For those of you who've picked up the TE sticks; have they continued to meet your expectations now that you've gotten a day or two or real world use?

After using it for the past few days I highly recommend it. I can pull off Guile and Vega's Super Combo almost everytime now and can throw a steady stream of quarter circle moves without fail. I also tested it out on SamSho 2 and works beautifully there as well. The weight and the length of it really helps out too. It feels sturdy and durable. Now if I can just get the damn thing recognized by MAME and Kawaks then I'd be set.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: cool breeze on February 19, 2009, 05:03:22 PM
I've given up on getting Seth at this point.  He's a piece of shit multi-character anyway.  I just need Gouken now and there are 50 wrong methods on the internet, so I'm going through the motions and nothing is happening.  This is annoying.

The safe, guaranteed way to get Gouken:

-Make sure you have Akuma unlocked AND have completed the game with him once!
-Now pick any character.  You can play on an easier difficulty level and at one round (leave the timer at 99).
-Get two perfects and four (three may work) ultra-finishes before you reach Seth.
-Make sure not to lose a round, BUT remember that if Seth or anyone else is being a little bitch, you can always hit start on controller 2 to interrupt the match right before you lose, and when you go back to arcade mode, you will start the match over with no losses!

I did this with Ryu, and did NOTHING but spam fireballs over and over on the very easy difficulty.  Getting perfects the first two matches was a snap this way.  On easy difficulties, the CPU also falls for his ultra pretty easily.

Seth can be a bitch to get (it took me so many tries to clear the game with Dhalsim alone), but once you get used to his bullshit things get easier.

It's not really hard with any character.  A ducking heavy kick takes care of the enemies, it's just really annoying to do.

I unlocked Gouken after getting 3 perfects, then every other round ending with an ultra, even beating Gouken with an ultra.  I finished with Akuma before this too.  I'm a bit underwhelmed by him.

I also realized that the two things the new characters share are Ryu style inputs (none are charge style) and they all have a directional gimmick with their attacks.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: MMaRsu on February 19, 2009, 05:53:20 PM
I'm still learning, but damn Lyte edge is schooling me.

I must have played too much today, I got my ass beat by a couple of scrubs online.  ???
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: ferrarimanf355 on February 19, 2009, 06:07:15 PM
Snagged my copy today, I'll give it a spin later tonite.  :-*
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 19, 2009, 06:07:39 PM
Just got a message from someone on Live saying that an EB Games near him has raised the price on fight pads to $59.99.  WTF?
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 19, 2009, 06:26:47 PM
Just got a message from someone on Live saying that an EB Games near him has raised the price on fight pads to $59.99.  WTF?

If people are willing to pay it, they'll do it.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: drohne on February 19, 2009, 06:57:20 PM
Am I crazy or is Dan actually decent in this game?

i think so too -- i wouldn't use him against a good player if i was seriously trying to win, but his dp is solid, you can use his lk kick special like a baby tiger knee, and you can throw his ultra out against careless pokes. definitely fun to use
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 19, 2009, 08:29:03 PM
I unlocked Akuma a little while ago, now I need to tackle unlocking Gouken.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Enl on February 19, 2009, 08:55:24 PM
Went to Best Buy during my lunch break and they had SFIV up as a 360 demo instead of the usual Rock Band. So I got in line, beat a bunch of little kids' asses, and left the store feeling like a real man.   :punch

I was surprised to see a decent amount of people standing around trying to watch what was going on. Made me pine for the days of huddling around and waiting for a fight in an arcade.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Akala on February 19, 2009, 09:14:36 PM
I think my fightpad is broken. It keeps getting stuck holding to the right.  :-\
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Cheebs on February 19, 2009, 10:07:18 PM
Has anyone been able to beat the arcade mode with online challengers turned on? It seems impossible, I can never complete a single CPU match before someone pops in.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: drohne on February 19, 2009, 10:10:02 PM
i did before it launched in the us, but yeah, that setting's probably not a good idea when you actually want to finish arcade mode
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 19, 2009, 11:05:02 PM
Fuck this game in the ass.

With Ken, I can get two perfects off the bat, and typically one or two ultra finishes before everything goes to hell. The game starts registering regular flaming dragon punches...

Fuck this. I just want to unlock Gouken.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: CurseoftheGods on February 19, 2009, 11:35:17 PM
Fuck this game in the ass.

With Ken, I can get two perfects off the bat, and typically one or two ultra finishes before everything goes to hell. The game starts registering regular flaming dragon punches...

Fuck this. I just want to unlock Gouken.

I am having the exact same problem using the Saturn pad. It keeps registering EX Shoryukens instead of the Ultra.

Someone on GAF said that Capcom deliberately loosened and streamlined the command inputs to make them easier to pull off on shitty d-pads. Is there any truth to that?
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Beezy on February 19, 2009, 11:35:24 PM
Drohne destroyed me. I suck. :'(

I like C. Viper, but I fucking hate her ultra move. That shit has absolutely no range at all and she's completely vulnerable after it misses.

Also, Vega is an annoying motherfucker. I don't know how to fight him. I can't even block some of his attacks.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: cool breeze on February 19, 2009, 11:44:23 PM
Fuck this game in the ass.

With Ken, I can get two perfects off the bat, and typically one or two ultra finishes before everything goes to hell. The game starts registering regular flaming dragon punches...

Fuck this. I just want to unlock Gouken.

I am having the exact same problem using the Saturn pad. It keeps registering EX Shoryukens instead of the Ultra.

Someone on GAF said that Capcom deliberately loosened and streamlined the command inputs to make them easier to pull off on shitty d-pads. Is there any truth to that?

yup, same problem here.

pretty sure they did change the inputs to make them easier.  Go into training mode and turn on the option that lets you see what you're pressing, it shows how some things register even when they don't make sense.

Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Bebpo on February 20, 2009, 12:04:31 AM
The commands have definitely been loosened.  After playing solely with a stick I tried using the PS3 DS3 pad and uh, it's fucking awesome with SFIV.  I'm doing amazingly well and pulling off every combo and move/super 99%.  I went back to HD Remix and I am definitely not pulling off stuff with that accuracy.  Whatever they did to loosen the timings made the PS3 controller awesome for SFIV and I'm damn glad they did it.

I just use L2 for all 3 punches, R2 for all 3 kicks for ultras and my thumb on square/x for throw & triangle/circle for focus.  That way everything is easy to pull off.

Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Bebpo on February 20, 2009, 12:05:42 AM
Has Zangief been super gimped?  I can't seem to combo his jumping knee into his SPD or his body slam into it.  I mean on the plus side he can focus attack -> those, but my bread & butter Zangief SPD lead ins were jumping attacks :(
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: ch1nchilla on February 20, 2009, 12:08:51 AM
El Fuerte is a fucking annoying little crackhead, and my least favorite character thus far.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Bebpo on February 20, 2009, 12:20:13 AM
So why is there no way to just rematch right away when playing online with a friend? :(
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: ch1nchilla on February 20, 2009, 12:23:56 AM
So why is there no way to just rematch right away when playing online with a friend? :(

Agreed. Also, why do I have to go through TWO MENUS (and like a minute and a half) just to continue in arcade mode? If you select continue it should instantly take you back to the match, not this loading, character select, loading bullshit. (I'm AWFUL at this game, so it's a legitimate gripe)
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: cool breeze on February 20, 2009, 12:25:22 AM
I sacrificed a win just to pull off Dan's Legendary Taunt

And yeah, I'm playing this with a stick right now, but I plugged in the saturn controller earlier and it worked for all types of characters perfectly, even charge guys.  Only problem is that using throw is awkward, but I considered reversing the order so weak punch/kick are the 3rd row instead of first.  I'll stay with the arcade stick for now, it's only VERY annoying when I can't pull off a super/ultra, end up wasting a chunk of the bar, and doing a a move I totally didn't want to do.

btw, Gouken is better than I first thought.  Only awful thing about him is his terrible hurricane kick move.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Bebpo on February 20, 2009, 12:53:34 AM
The online community on PS3 is pretty ehhhhh.  I tried playing some ranked matches with Zangief and all I fought were shotos EVERY TIME.  Most of them have no idea what to do against a big russian walk up to them and throwing their ass over and over, lol.

Ken seems kinda worse than Ryu.  I kept having people do their Ken ultras which set them straight to the sky when they missed/was blocked which gave me a free ultra/super/ex SPD when they landed.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: cool breeze on February 20, 2009, 01:00:19 AM
yeah, it's worse than I thought it would be.  It just came out and I'm having trouble finding a good match.  When I do find a good opponent, I fight as long as I can.  This one guy I was fighting unlocked seth and we had a good couple rounds there.

and no custom soundtrack online with the PS3 is so poor
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Bebpo on February 20, 2009, 01:01:15 AM
how do you play the same person more than once?  It kept dumping me back to the search for quick match/custom game menu after each fight.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: cool breeze on February 20, 2009, 01:05:10 AM
that's odd

every match I played it took me back to the lobby, we hit ready, and another fight started.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Robo on February 20, 2009, 01:07:56 AM
I don't think you can keep fighting the same person in Ranked matches.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: cool breeze on February 20, 2009, 01:11:01 AM
that might be it then, I just do player matches
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 20, 2009, 01:17:30 AM
Oh shit, Amazon actually shipped out one of the controllers I ordered!   :o

Went to Best Buy during my lunch break and they had SFIV up as a 360 demo instead of the usual Rock Band. So I got in line, beat a bunch of little kids' asses, and left the store feeling like a real man.   :punch

I was surprised to see a decent amount of people standing around trying to watch what was going on. Made me pine for the days of huddling around and waiting for a fight in an arcade.

Yeah, I popped into EB to return the fucked-up PS3 fight pad I got the other day, and a bunch of guys were crammed in the store, huddling around the demo kiosk.  Also lucked out and got another fight pad, which seems to work fine!  

Fuck this game in the ass.

With Ken, I can get two perfects off the bat, and typically one or two ultra finishes before everything goes to hell. The game starts registering regular flaming dragon punches...

Fuck this. I just want to unlock Gouken.

I'm telling you, follow what I said above.  Forget using your favorite character, forget any real tactics-- just pick Ryu and fireball, fireball, FIREBALL, EX fireball, super fireball.  

Fuck this game in the ass.

With Ken, I can get two perfects off the bat, and typically one or two ultra finishes before everything goes to hell. The game starts registering regular flaming dragon punches...

Fuck this. I just want to unlock Gouken.

I am having the exact same problem using the Saturn pad. It keeps registering EX Shoryukens instead of the Ultra.

Someone on GAF said that Capcom deliberately loosened and streamlined the command inputs to make them easier to pull off on shitty d-pads. Is there any truth to that?

Yes, apparently so.  You can thank Dimps for that it seems.

Drohne destroyed me. I suck. :'(

I like C. Viper, but I fucking hate her ultra move. That shit has absolutely no range at all and she's completely vulnerable after it misses.

Also, Vega is an annoying motherfucker. I don't know how to fight him. I can't even block some of his attacks.

Most, if not all characters' ultras make them completely vulnerable if you miss with it.  One of the things I notice new players do all the time is get set to do an ultra when the bar fills up.  I think it's almost instinct...don't do it unless it's safe!  If you don't do it all, chances are the other guy you're fighting will fuck up because he thinks that's what you're trying to do, too!

Viper's ultra might be good after a knock up?  It also works well close up.  And use that DP move that makes her hit the ground; people don't expect it!  There's a way to combo it into her kick special, but I can't remember if that's EX only or not.

I don't use Viper, but Vega is definitely a character who got gimped to hell and totally sucks now.  He should be a lot easier to beat compared to previous games.  He's really, REALLY easy to knock out of his air attacks now, and I find that focus attacks really fuck up his ground game when you fight someone who tends to just sit on the ground and slide/roll attack/stab at you over and over again.  He's a breeze to beat with Cammy especially.

Has Zangief been super gimped?  I can't seem to combo his jumping knee into his SPD or his body slam into it.  I mean on the plus side he can focus attack -> those, but my bread & butter Zangief SPD lead ins were jumping attacks :(

'Gief is one of the best characters in the game, bar none.  He wasn't gimped...they made him better than ever.  He may have lost some old stuff, but he fucking rocks.  Coming back to Cammy again though, I notice that she is so fast that I'm able to cannon spike him 99% of the time he is close and doing his SPD animation.  And her cannon drill goes right under his lariat.

btw, Gouken is better than I first thought.  Only awful thing about him is his terrible hurricane kick move.

It has its uses.  It can be used like an anti-air, and since he sticks his foot out before he does it, it's easy to catch someone off guard with it since the reach is a little longer (and on the other side of the coin, easy to get hit out of it).  I love his counter move.  LOVE IT.

The online community on PS3 is pretty ehhhhh.  I tried playing some ranked matches with Zangief and all I fought were shotos EVERY TIME.  Most of them have no idea what to do against a big russian walk up to them and throwing their ass over and over, lol.

Ken seems kinda worse than Ryu.  I kept having people do their Ken ultras which set them straight to the sky when they missed/was blocked which gave me a free ultra/super/ex SPD when they landed.

What you are describing is the online community in any 2D fighter on any system.   :lol  Did you try modifying your custom search to find people with the same skill level as you or higher?  Not sure if that helps or not.

On PS3, I find that I can NEVER find matches if I do quick or custom.  I have to create my own.  This is the only PS3 fighter I have where I have this problem.

how do you play the same person more than once?  It kept dumping me back to the search for quick match/custom game menu after each fight.

Player matches let you fight again...
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Beezy on February 20, 2009, 03:34:00 AM
I'm an idiot, I didn't know how to do focus attacks until about 30 minutes ago. The only people I can kinda use so far are Chun-Li, M. Bison, and C. Viper. Bison is my favorite so far, I just have trouble doing his charge down moves.

I couldn't figure out how to knock Vega out of his air attacks at all. :'(
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Cheebs on February 20, 2009, 08:32:30 AM
Is it just me or are supers(and ultras) a lot more hard to pull off than in SFII? In SF II HD Remix I alway pull them off the first time I hit the inputs but it seems almost random in SFIV if I can get it to go through, at least for me.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: cool breeze on February 20, 2009, 10:18:21 AM
I have the same problem and others mentioned it above.  It seems like they made normal inputs more forgiving, so doing supers generally cross over.

like, say you do this input to pull off a super:

down + down-forward + forward + down + down-forward + forward

the game can just read it as a different attack because it now allows for a margin of error for the move contained in the total command:

down + down-forward + forward + down + down-forward + forward

only thing I've found that helps is to over do the movements and holding it a bit more forward on the 2nd quarter circle
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Rman on February 20, 2009, 11:57:46 AM
Damn, I hate this unlocking crap.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Robo on February 20, 2009, 12:13:21 PM
The HARD challenges are tough!  I don't have nearly enough patience for any of these. :'(
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Rman on February 20, 2009, 04:29:43 PM
There's tons of shotoscrubs online.  I'm not talking about good ken and ryu players.  I don't mind those.  Just dudes who heavy jump kick and low heavy kick all day.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Rman on February 20, 2009, 04:47:34 PM
Are you going to be playing tonight, Genghis?  I would like to play some more matches again.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: cool breeze on February 20, 2009, 05:34:24 PM
There's tons of shotoscrubs online.  I'm not talking about good ken and ryu players.  I don't mind those.  Just dudes who heavy jump kick and low heavy kick all day.
:rock
If it works, why not.

golden strategy when you don't know the character :rock
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Robo on February 20, 2009, 05:51:22 PM
if you want to lend a helping hand to the overly aggressive shoto scrubs, you can enroll them in the Zangief School of Learning to Play Safer, block and pile drive that shit until they come up with something new.  lariat the jump ins, EX green glove through the fireballs, and pile drive all the blocked sweeps, dragon punches and hurricane kicks.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: drohne on February 20, 2009, 06:59:13 PM
man, i'm really starting to like guile in this game, though i'm still worried i'm going to hit a wall with him eventually. he's more about pressuring, trapping, and baiting flashkickable ground attacks than his classic sf2 defensive game. i've been spending about half my time with ryu, but for whatever reason my guile is still much better
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 20, 2009, 07:15:41 PM
I just fought the worst fireball spammer with Akuma ever. Typically I don't care if I lose, but this guy just pissed me off.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: drohne on February 20, 2009, 07:19:17 PM
akumas who run away and throw air fireballs and shakunetsus all day are so goddamned boring. thankfully the raging demon is easy to avoid in this game, because some of those assholes would beat you too in hd remix
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 20, 2009, 07:21:31 PM
Air fireball Air fireball Air fireball Air fireball Air fireball Air fireball

Over and over and over and over...

Fucking Hell!
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Rman on February 20, 2009, 07:25:34 PM
man, i'm really starting to like guile in this game, though i'm still worried i'm going to hit a wall with him eventually. he's more about pressuring, trapping, and baiting flashkickable ground attacks than his classic sf2 defensive game. i've been spending about half my time with ryu, but for whatever reason my guile is still much better
I'm a guile player as well; I do like the new changes.  His new neckbreaking punch is awesome for turtles.  I feel that the charge moves a take millisecond more than previous sf incarnations.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: cool breeze on February 20, 2009, 07:42:49 PM
I picked up a PS3 pad today since I heard they were getting sold out, and if I ended up liking my 360 one (coming tomorrow I guess), I would have wanted one anyway.  It's pretty great.  Shoulder buttons and face buttons are great.  Don't really like how start and selet are recessed, especially how turbo is higher than select.  D-pad is a bit mushy/loose and corners are a bit hard too hit; just based on early impressions it seems only below the micro and saturn pads.  Best part is how damn comfortable the thing is to hold.  Only issue is the battery pack (I have the same problem with the wireless 360 controller), but that's fixed with the wired 360 one I'm getting.  Other than that, great controller.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: archie4208 on February 20, 2009, 07:44:19 PM
anyone wanna play a shitty honda?  gt = archie4208
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: tiesto on February 20, 2009, 07:45:14 PM
Can't find a pad anywhere, and I've checked 2 fucking counties... They're also going for $80+ on amazon. Anybody know if MadCatz will be shipping more?
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: cool breeze on February 20, 2009, 08:13:24 PM
I hope you can find one or Mad Catz makes more.  This pad is phenomenal.  It's now my PC/emulation controller of choice; the usb saturn pad went in my closet.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Rman on February 20, 2009, 09:53:03 PM
Sagat is a beast.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Grecco on February 20, 2009, 10:17:35 PM
man, i'm really starting to like guile in this game, though i'm still worried i'm going to hit a wall with him eventually. he's more about pressuring, trapping, and baiting flashkickable ground attacks than his classic sf2 defensive game. i've been spending about half my time with ryu, but for whatever reason my guile is still much better


  :-\ i reeeeeeeeeeally hate the new Guile. Mind you my time has been limited with the game so far. But things like his upside down RH kick got nerfed.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: cool breeze on February 20, 2009, 10:19:47 PM
Sagat is a beast.
Yeah, Sagat is awesome in this game. I love playing as him.

I'm surprised that shoto (does that mean new?) fighters don't play as him.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: DJ_Tet on February 20, 2009, 10:20:01 PM
Sagat is a beast.

Funny, I want to throw something after fighting him, oh about 20 times in a row now.  On easy.  I had him down to a sliver in round 3.  Twice.


I'm still trying, though.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Grecco on February 20, 2009, 10:24:40 PM
Sagat is a beast.
Yeah, Sagat is awesome in this game. I love playing as him.

I'm surprised that shoto (does that mean new?) fighters don't play as him.

Pretty sure Shoto is short for shotokan. The martial arts used by Ken/Ryu/Akuma

reason its related to new players is because they are the eaysest to use and thus most new players use.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: cool breeze on February 20, 2009, 10:25:32 PM
makes sense

still, Sagat's move set is close enough and they're way better.  His ranged attacks can be pumped out at such a fast pace
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Rman on February 20, 2009, 10:35:39 PM
Conversely, Ken is kinda garbage.  His super is easily interrupted--I know the shoryureppa is his classic super, but it has always sucked--and he just seems weaker, especially his heavy dragon punch.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: cool breeze on February 20, 2009, 11:22:42 PM
Mad Catz PS3 Fight Pad

6:30 pm to 10:40 pm

we hardly knew ye  :'(

oh mad catz, the controller design and all is awesome, so why does it gotta have the d-pad get stuck all the damn time.  Gonna try and exchange this tomorrow.

Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: drohne on February 21, 2009, 03:08:04 AM
  :-\ i reeeeeeeeeeally hate the new Guile. Mind you my time has been limited with the game so far. But things like his upside down RH kick got nerfed.

relative to hd remix, you mean? it's not an overhead like it is in that game, but it recovers really fast and you can charge a boom while you're doing it -- pretty useful poke i find

guile's definitely weaker than he is in hd remix, but i dunno...the nerfed flashkick (and the generally reduced usefulness of fireballs) kind of makes him more interesting to play
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Akala on February 21, 2009, 03:55:46 AM
This is the most fun I've had online in a game in a long while.

Even though I used to main Ryu in 3S, I've been playing Vega, simply because I've been dominating every Ken, Ryu, and Akuma that comes along. Actually, I've been crushing most shoto's I've played simply by picking a 'charge' character. Since 2/3 of people just pick the shoto/Sagat, it's been a lot of fun.

So far, having way more fun with this than I ever had w/ SC4. I even saw a 'lyteedge', but connection timed out in the lobby.  :'(

I'd really like the option to rematch ranked fights, especially when I find someone who is fun to play.

If I can get a working pad, this may be GOTY.  :teehee
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: drew on February 21, 2009, 04:44:13 AM
I'm surprised that shoto (does that mean new?) fighters don't play as him.

im pretty sure shoto is loli scat

dont ask me how i know this
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: CurseoftheGods on February 21, 2009, 11:11:51 AM
Conversely, Ken is kinda garbage.  His super is easily interrupted--I know the shoryureppa is his classic super, but it has always sucked--and he just seems weaker, especially his heavy dragon punch.

I agree. His Ultra is pretty useless as well. :'(
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Cheebs on February 21, 2009, 11:20:40 AM
I see A LOT more ken's than ryu online, like 80% of my online battles with strangers are against ken.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Beezy on February 21, 2009, 11:56:05 AM
Most Ken players that I've faced online in ranked matches are incredibly dumb. I'm able to beat them with only medium and hard kicks with my Bison because the idiots keep jumping at me.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: FatalT on February 21, 2009, 01:30:54 PM
360 owners, add me: FatalT

I want to beat some Evilborean asses!
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: TakingBackSunday on February 21, 2009, 01:36:56 PM
Okay, so, I've never really played a Street Fighter game before.

Should I look into this?

I know going in that it's going to be a lot tougher to get the hold of compared to, say, Soul Calibur.  But I don't know, it just looks so cool.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Grecco on February 21, 2009, 02:24:44 PM
Its alot easyer to get into than previous SFers... Even easyer than SF2 HD Remix imo.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Beezy on February 21, 2009, 02:37:35 PM
Okay, so, I've never really played a Street Fighter game before.

Should I look into this?

I know going in that it's going to be a lot tougher to get the hold of compared to, say, Soul Calibur.  But I don't know, it just looks so cool.
Yeah, I never seriously learned to play a SF game before this one and I'm loving it. Just make sure that you do the challenges with whoever you choose to play with since you're a noob like me.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: CurseoftheGods on February 21, 2009, 02:39:02 PM
Okay, so, I've never really played a Street Fighter game before.

Should I look into this?

I know going in that it's going to be a lot tougher to get the hold of compared to, say, Soul Calibur.  But I don't know, it just looks so cool.

Get it. It's very easy to get into.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: MoxManiac on February 21, 2009, 02:56:03 PM
Hey lyte, did you want to play some more?
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: cool breeze on February 21, 2009, 03:07:47 PM
ok, I'm making Fei Long my main character because no one plays as him and he's pretty crappy, so I have a reason for why I lost, but I'm awesome if I win.

Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Vrolokus on February 21, 2009, 03:21:17 PM
ok, I'm making Fei Long my main character because no one plays as him and he's pretty crappy, so I have a reason for why I lost, but I'm awesome if I win.



That's sorta why I've been using Cammy. If I win, yay!; if I lose, hey, I picked Cammy.

All the shoto hate has made me really insecure when playing online. After 15 years of Street fighter, I'm only good with shotos, but I don't want to be part of the problem so I'm trying to pick other chars. But I feel like Oro with one hand tied behind my back. (That was a really geeky SF analogy to make.)
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: cool breeze on February 21, 2009, 03:24:09 PM
yeah, I'm the same way.  I usually do random, and if I do land on a Ryu, Ken, Gouken, Sagat, etc.  I do Random again.  The only one of those character I do use is Dan, but all I try to do with him is land fireballs or taunt a lot.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Vrolokus on February 21, 2009, 03:28:30 PM
I've been fiddling with Zangief a bit, and is it just me or is the range for his spinning piledriver way shorter than in any previous SF? It seemed like in the SF2s you could catch someone practically halfway across the screen with it, now I've whiffed it an inch away.

Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: TakingBackSunday on February 21, 2009, 03:51:49 PM
Do you all have pads, or are you playing with the 360/PS3 controller?

360 owners, is it really shitty playing with it?
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: archie4208 on February 21, 2009, 03:54:58 PM
Do you all have pads, or are you playing with the 360/PS3 controller?

360 owners, is it really shitty playing with it?

Honestly the 360 controller is not THAT horrible for charge characters.  I can play Honda half decently using the analog stick.  But shotos are near impossible to play with.  I can never reliably get a dragon punch out.

I've been fiddling with Zangief a bit, and is it just me or is the range for his spinning piledriver way shorter than in any previous SF? It seemed like in the SF2s you could catch someone practically halfway across the screen with it, now I've whiffed it an inch away.



Throw range has been nerfed big time in comparison to HDR.  I can't get an Ochio to connect unless I'm practically standing on top of the other guy.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Vrolokus on February 21, 2009, 04:00:54 PM
I'm using a SFIV pad while I wait on my TE from Amazon.

The pad is good, but I find it's not ideal for the real technical stuff - for example, trying to pull off complex combos in the challenge mode. I think a joystick would allow you to do things faster and more precisely.

That being said, the SFIV pad is worlds better than using a standard 360 controller.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: TakingBackSunday on February 21, 2009, 04:03:22 PM
Mehh... :-\

I want to buy a new game but I don't want to be like 100 bucks out today.  Maybe I should just get it for PS3...
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Vrolokus on February 21, 2009, 04:09:24 PM
Frankly, I don't think the standard 360 controller is much worse than the standard PS3 controller when it comes to this. The Sixaxis has its own weaknesses.

It's not like SFIV is unplayable with a standard controller. You're just going to hit a wall in terms of performance earlier.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: CurseoftheGods on February 21, 2009, 04:24:38 PM
Man, the PS3 online implementation kinda sucks. swaggaz invited me to a match, and I accepted thinking it would take me straight to the versus menu like in the Xbox version -- but it didn't do anything. Turns out that I have quit whatever mode I'm playing, go to the Network mode, and confirm a player match through there. Ugh. 
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Cheebs on February 21, 2009, 04:26:10 PM


That's sorta why I've been using Cammy. If I win, yay!; if I lose, hey, I picked Cammy.

All the shoto hate has made me really insecure when playing online. After 15 years of Street fighter, I'm only good with shotos, but I don't want to be part of the problem so I'm trying to pick other chars. But I feel like Oro with one hand tied behind my back. (That was a really geeky SF analogy to make.)
Hah, I am the same way. I used to always use ryu but I am forcing myself to learn cammy and sakura just not to use ryu or ken.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Vrolokus on February 21, 2009, 04:34:05 PM


That's sorta why I've been using Cammy. If I win, yay!; if I lose, hey, I picked Cammy.

All the shoto hate has made me really insecure when playing online. After 15 years of Street fighter, I'm only good with shotos, but I don't want to be part of the problem so I'm trying to pick other chars. But I feel like Oro with one hand tied behind my back. (That was a really geeky SF analogy to make.)
Hah, I am the same way. I used to always use ryu but I am forcing myself to learn cammy and sakura just not to use ryu or ken.

Good to know I'm not the only one. It's really hard this time because Sagat (who is the ubershoto) is such a beast. The temptation to pick him is great, especially when you run up against some full distinguished mentally-challenged fellow shoto who just whips fireballs all day.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 21, 2009, 04:48:48 PM
Man, the PS3 online implementation kinda sucks. swaggaz invited me to a match, and I accepted thinking it would take me straight to the versus menu like in the Xbox version -- but it didn't do anything. Turns out that I have quit whatever mode I'm playing, go to the Network mode, and confirm a player match through there. Ugh. 

I have been having major problems playing this online on PS3.  I can't search for matches; I get no results.  Turns out that my PS3 is registering Nat 3 on its connection test.  It's too strict, and I can't figure out how to open my Netopia router to allow for this.  Everything we are trying is not working.

I had the same problem with my Xbox 360, but it was a snap to get the nat to open. 
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: demi on February 21, 2009, 04:50:24 PM
Why would you care what people think of the character you play? Fuck em, just makes it more embarassing when they lose
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: archie4208 on February 21, 2009, 04:55:11 PM


That's sorta why I've been using Cammy. If I win, yay!; if I lose, hey, I picked Cammy.

All the shoto hate has made me really insecure when playing online. After 15 years of Street fighter, I'm only good with shotos, but I don't want to be part of the problem so I'm trying to pick other chars. But I feel like Oro with one hand tied behind my back. (That was a really geeky SF analogy to make.)
Hah, I am the same way. I used to always use ryu but I am forcing myself to learn cammy and sakura just not to use ryu or ken.

Good to know I'm not the only one. It's really hard this time because Sagat (who is the ubershoto) is such a beast. The temptation to pick him is great, especially when you run up against some full distinguished mentally-challenged fellow shoto who just whips fireballs all day.

It's much more satisfying to destroy a shotoscrub with a rarely used character like Honda.   8)
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Human Snorenado on February 21, 2009, 05:04:41 PM
I play a fierce Honda, or at least I do in SSF II Turbo HD.  Nothing like owning someone while wearing a bath towel and diaper.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: cool breeze on February 21, 2009, 05:07:21 PM
Man, the PS3 online implementation kinda sucks. swaggaz invited me to a match, and I accepted thinking it would take me straight to the versus menu like in the Xbox version -- but it didn't do anything. Turns out that I have quit whatever mode I'm playing, go to the Network mode, and confirm a player match through there. Ugh. 

yeah, that was weird.  I just got a black message from you wondering what it was all about.

it is a lot better than HD Remix.  Only one match had lag and finding a match in ranked or player is usually very quick.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Cheebs on February 21, 2009, 05:23:52 PM
Man, the PS3 online implementation kinda sucks. swaggaz invited me to a match, and I accepted thinking it would take me straight to the versus menu like in the Xbox version -- but it didn't do anything. Turns out that I have quit whatever mode I'm playing, go to the Network mode, and confirm a player match through there. Ugh. 

I have been having major problems playing this online on PS3.  I can't search for matches; I get no results.  Turns out that my PS3 is registering Nat 3 on its connection test.  It's too strict, and I can't figure out how to open my Netopia router to allow for this.  Everything we are trying is not working.

I had the same problem with my Xbox 360, but it was a snap to get the nat to open. 
I always have a hard time searching for matches on PS3. Not finding them. I find plenty of them when searching but whenever I click on one it is already filled. It is a miracle if I can get in one before someone else, making it a waste of time. The only way to get in one is host myself because when I do someone pops in within seconds.

It will hopefully get better in a few weeks, but it seems like there is far too many online. I am guessing it is even worse on 360.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: demi on February 21, 2009, 05:26:13 PM
Why would overcrowded online be a bad thing? PS3 owners (http://i33.tinypic.com/2m5dkhz.jpg)
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: DJ_Tet on February 21, 2009, 06:46:45 PM
I saw a PS3 Street Fighter pad at a gamestop but didn't get it.  Should I go back for it to ebay it?  I don't have a PS3.


fuck, I should have tried to buy it :(


http://cgi.ebay.com/Street-Fighter-IV-4-Fight-Pad-Chun-Li-PS3-NEW_W0QQitemZ110354290145QQcmdZViewItemQQptZVideo_Games_Accessories?hash=item110354290145&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1234%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: TakingBackSunday on February 21, 2009, 07:03:39 PM
Why are they so fucking expensive?
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: archie4208 on February 21, 2009, 07:05:35 PM
Why are they so fucking expensive?

MadCatz vastly underestimated demand and only made a handfull of pads and sticks.  I think only 3,000 TE sticks were made and they are going for >$400 on eBay.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: TakingBackSunday on February 21, 2009, 07:07:20 PM
Jesus.  How about the Hori ones?
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Vrolokus on February 21, 2009, 07:08:21 PM
What's especially nuts is: isn't Madcatz going to make more? I have 2 360 TE sticks ordered at Amazon (supposedly ship next week), and if they're making more I'm inclined to sell 'em the day they show up.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: archie4208 on February 21, 2009, 07:11:03 PM
The HRAP EX (supposed to be a good stick) is sold out at Amazon and is going for $250.  It normally goes for $129.  The Hori EX 2 (supposed to suck ass) is in stock and goes for 60 bucks.  I have seen one for $40 at Gamestop but it was sold before I could make up my mind on it.  SF4 hype has caused a massive demand in arcade sticks.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: cool breeze on February 21, 2009, 07:11:17 PM
If I was getting two TE and I could sell it for $400+ I'd do it right away

I mean, if you needed another high quality one, you could always go for the $130 hori one
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: TakingBackSunday on February 21, 2009, 07:34:29 PM
That's really odd that the Hori one sucks, they usually make decent controllers.  But if I get this game I'd probably just get that.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: archie4208 on February 21, 2009, 07:37:29 PM
It's probably suitable unless you are going to get uber hardcore in the game.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: drohne on February 21, 2009, 09:38:16 PM
the entry level hori sticks really aren't that bad imo -- obviously they don't feel as good as something with sanwa parts, and i've heard that they're not very durable, but my execution on them really isn't that much worse than on my modded hraps. there's something inherently satisfying about an arcade quality joystick, but if you just want to play the game and hit your moves they're fine
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Grecco on February 21, 2009, 09:45:11 PM
I almost bought one today.. almost

but i heard gamestop will get 1 Fight pad. Decided to wait for that.  :-\
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Rman on February 21, 2009, 11:18:48 PM
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Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: DJ_Tet on February 22, 2009, 03:25:43 AM
Got a Blanka PS3 pad tonight at Gamestop.  Anyone want to make an offer  :-*
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Vrolokus on February 22, 2009, 04:46:17 AM
Sorry if this was already posted, but: Sirlin made some interesting comments on SFIV, and I have to say a lot of his criticisms seem dead-on to me.

http://www.sirlin.net/blog/2009/2/22/a-few-things-about-street-fighter-4.html (http://www.sirlin.net/blog/2009/2/22/a-few-things-about-street-fighter-4.html)
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: cool breeze on February 22, 2009, 10:38:51 AM
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In ranked matches (well, all matches) there is no double blind character select. This means the optimum strategy is often to wait until the opponent chooses first so you can counter-pick. This is a very annoying situation.

Last night when I would pick Fei Long, I'd see people right away move the cursor to Akuma.  lol
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: archie4208 on February 22, 2009, 11:04:44 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1OjURMqzPY

Fei Long infinite :teehee
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 22, 2009, 01:18:01 PM
Sorry if this was already posted, but: Sirlin made some interesting comments on SFIV, and I have to say a lot of his criticisms seem dead-on to me.

http://www.sirlin.net/blog/2009/2/22/a-few-things-about-street-fighter-4.html (http://www.sirlin.net/blog/2009/2/22/a-few-things-about-street-fighter-4.html)


Seeing how I'm not a hardcore fighting game fan, I didn't understand much of what he was going on about.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: DJ_Tet on February 22, 2009, 04:21:03 PM
Went back and got the PS3 Chun Li fight pad today, hopefully I can get these sold before they are restocked.

Still haven't seen an Akuma pad in the wild. 
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Rman on February 23, 2009, 12:36:54 AM
I think I fought Drohne on a ranked matched.  Funny running into board members on random ranked matches. I was rattlemonster, drohne.   Good game.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 23, 2009, 01:15:46 AM
I think I fought Drohne on a ranked matched.  Funny running into board members on random ranked matches. I was rattlemonster, drohne.   Good game.

I just played some games with Drohne in a player match that I was also randomly looking for (just hit search and then mashed A for the first one that came up!)  :lol
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Jansen on February 23, 2009, 02:51:24 AM
my copy and a fightpad is supposed to be delivered today

:hyper
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Bebpo on February 23, 2009, 03:27:11 AM
Sorry if this was already posted, but: Sirlin made some interesting comments on SFIV, and I have to say a lot of his criticisms seem dead-on to me.

http://www.sirlin.net/blog/2009/2/22/a-few-things-about-street-fighter-4.html (http://www.sirlin.net/blog/2009/2/22/a-few-things-about-street-fighter-4.html)


Great write up.  I agree that some of the stuff like EX Focus Cancelling is way more complicated than it should be and thus far less practical in use if you aren't a master of dexterity.  You really shouldn't have had to dash cancel after focus canceling your normal move.  Guilty Gear, Tatsunoko don't make you dash after a cancel.

Also I agree with the stuff about links.  But then again as long as I don't play high level players who are on the top 1% playing field it's pretty much a non-issue since no one is pulling that stuff off with 99% hit rate. 
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 23, 2009, 04:51:27 AM
Thinking I might end up switching my main from Cammy back to Chun-Li.  I seem to be having better success against the higher-level players with the latter; it's very, very difficult for me to win against good Guile and now Zangief players with her. Although it is a hell of a lot of fun doing endless hooligan combo throws on clueless players.  Perhaps it will just be both.

Pretty much just using Cammy (and now Chun) in ranked, and then in player matches, I like to use Dan, Zangief, Abel, Gouken, Sakura, Sagat, and sometimes Rose. 

Who has everyone settled on?

Sorry if this was already posted, but: Sirlin made some interesting comments on SFIV, and I have to say a lot of his criticisms seem dead-on to me.

http://www.sirlin.net/blog/2009/2/22/a-few-things-about-street-fighter-4.html (http://www.sirlin.net/blog/2009/2/22/a-few-things-about-street-fighter-4.html)


Great write up.  I agree that some of the stuff like EX Focus Cancelling is way more complicated than it should be and thus far less practical in use if you aren't a master of dexterity.  You really shouldn't have had to dash cancel after focus canceling your normal move.  Guilty Gear, Tatsunoko don't make you dash after a cancel.

Also I agree with the stuff about links.  But then again as long as I don't play high level players who are on the top 1% playing field it's pretty much a non-issue since no one is pulling that stuff off with 99% hit rate. 

I REALLY wish that SF4 had the same online set-up as HD Remix, especially in regards to the character selection screen.  I hate the players who wait for you to choose and then pick a "counter" character, although most of the time I'm going to be whoever the hell I want and they're gonna be Ryu or Ken, so it really doesn't matter.  In fact, it seems to throw these players OFF when I go right to a non-shoto and pick him/her.  It's as if they've never fought another character before, and perhaps they haven't with the way they play.   :-\

And while I agree about it being an absolute failure in regards to the game play being casual-friendly, there IS another way of looking at this game-- No one says that you have to do all that complex stuff.  You don't have to do focus attacks.  Hell, you don't even have to throw.  Are you gonna get your ass kicked online by anyone competent?  *YES*.  Can you have a great time picking your old favorites and button-(s)mashing offline or in player matches against your buddies, reliving the old days?  *YES*. 

It's more "casual-friendly" in that you can pick an old favorite and get into the game much easier in comparison to any other Street Fighter game since SF2.  There's no multiple battle systems.  No super arts to select.  No parrying.  You pick a character and GO.  I think it's this, combined with the old cast and the change to polygons over sprites (EX was a different era) that's gotten people who otherwise wouldn't give a shit interested.  If this was the exact same game but with sprites, I bet it wouldn't be anywhere near as popular, and people would just be wondering why they should fork over $59.99 for SF4 when they can just download HD Remix for $15.

And while I love HD Remix, I think it's far, far easier to have a real fighting chance with any character in SF4 compared to HD Remix. 
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Beezy on February 23, 2009, 08:43:08 AM
Cammy's theme is so sexy. :-[

Just in case there's someone here who I haven't added, my gamertag is Ji3eezy.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: archie4208 on February 23, 2009, 08:49:26 AM
Boxer is pretty fucking fun.  I suck with him but I think he's gonna be my main.  Super armor during EX moves is just :o
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Himu on February 23, 2009, 08:58:29 AM
So now that you've had your hand with Cammy, how is she lyte?
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Cheebs on February 23, 2009, 10:35:03 AM
Thinking I might end up switching my main from Cammy back to Chun-Li.  I seem to be having better success against the higher-level players with the latter; it's very, very difficult for me to win against good Guile and now Zangief players with her.
Cammy is my main, and yeah I face the same problems against Zangief users with her. She isn't that great and I can use Ryu to greater success than her in almost any situation but I just like Cammy and her play style so much and the fact very few use her so I plan on keep sticking with her even if it means I won't win as much as I normally could.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Himu on February 23, 2009, 10:52:04 AM
I hear Cammy's been nerfed :(
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Cheebs on February 23, 2009, 11:43:20 AM
I hear Cammy's been nerfed :(
She is but I don't care, I still use her.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: cool breeze on February 23, 2009, 11:50:51 AM
Cammy is pretty fun to play as.  I'm trying to pick 'off' characters to use mainly and she's one of the ones I use.  Fei Long, Vega, and Cammy :rock

I was thinking about Dhalsim just to whore his teleport, but wow, he fucking sucks now.  He floats in the air and instead of using the teleport as an advantage, it's now a necessity.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Robo on February 23, 2009, 12:18:26 PM
I really like Dhalsim's ultra, which you can use as pretty decent pressure like Oro's SA2 (without all the unblockable stuff, of course), but other than that, I got nothing.  He's much slower, weaker, and even more floaty than usual.

I'm using M.Bison/Dictator as a main at the moment, with a little Fei Long, Balrog/Boxer, Zangief, Sagat, Ryu, Honda, and Guile to keep things fresh.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Rman on February 23, 2009, 12:36:11 PM
Nerfed, Cammy?  Her special moves have insane priority. 

As for my picks.  I've been playing as Guile almost exclusively in ranked matches, sometimes with some Sagat action in there.  In player matches, it has been El Fuerte, C. Viper, Gouken, Sakura, and Boxer.  C. Viper is awesome.  I need to put some more time with her as her poking and pressure game are top notch.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Robo on February 23, 2009, 12:50:13 PM
I need to play a good Guile so I can steal some tactics.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: archie4208 on February 23, 2009, 12:57:53 PM
Anyone order a TE stick from Amazon?  Mine still hasn't shipped yet.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Vrolokus on February 23, 2009, 01:01:39 PM
I have 2 ordered from Amazon, they're supposed to ship tomorrow but... *shrugs*
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Enl on February 23, 2009, 01:14:09 PM
Great games last night drohne. It's been a while since I took a beating like that. I seem to be having a hard time lately trying to find good people to play online. I don't know if was my joystick or the online or if it was just me but I was having some serious issues pulling off Gulie's sonic boom in that one match. I think out of the 15 I did I only pulled off one.   >:(
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 23, 2009, 04:26:48 PM
So now that you've had your hand with Cammy, how is she lyte?

I hear Cammy's been nerfed :(

So I've had the 360 version since 2/12, and I've been playing for over 60 hours now.  Probably around 70-80 if you factor in the game at friends' houses and on PS3 too.  And I've used Cammy the vast majority of this time.  There's no way that she has been "nerfed" or that she sucks; I saw a thread about that on SRK and I see that others in it agree.  You can't say that when this is a new game engine and new stuff has been added...it might mean that OLD tactics may not work or be as effective, but there's now new ones.  The game (or at least for the home version characters) is still too new to be able to make an assessment like that so quickly.  Hell, even the arcade version character tier stuff is still changing.  Now people are putting C. Viper and Akuma at the top with Gief and Sagat, and Ryu has moved down a notch.  And if you are looking at the tier list in that SF4 guide, forget about it.  How is the guy who wrote that going to have a tier list in place for a game that just came out?  He can't; I'm guessing it's based on play time with a select group of people, and that's what they came up with, but there's a ton more people with access to the game now.

Anyway, Cammy rocks.  She has insane priority on some of her specials, and a very useful air throw.  SHOTO.  KILLAH.  The drawback with her that to really be effective, you need to stay CLOSE UP at all times, and this can be difficult against grapplers.  When you're close though, you've got all kinds of options open to you.

Cammy is my main, and yeah I face the same problems against Zangief users with her. She isn't that great and I can use Ryu to greater success than her in almost any situation but I just like Cammy and her play style so much and the fact very few use her so I plan on keep sticking with her even if it means I won't win as much as I normally could.

Up until the last day or two, I was owning Giefs left and right with Cammy, but now I am finding that I am being grabbed out of what I thought were safe, well-timed cannon spikes and spiral arrows, so I'm unsure.

With Cammy, I find I have a very hard time against good Gief, Guile, M. Bison, and surprisingly E. Honda players.  I faced a Honda last night that I know I would have destroyed with anyone else, but I couldn't get past his defense with Cammy.  Need to work on it.

Cammy is pretty fun to play as.  I'm trying to pick 'off' characters to use mainly and she's one of the ones I use.  Fei Long, Vega, and Cammy :rock

I was thinking about Dhalsim just to whore his teleport, but wow, he fucking sucks now.  He floats in the air and instead of using the teleport as an advantage, it's now a necessity.

Yeah, I enjoy using the less-popular or just lesser-used characters.  Rose is another I want to learn better because I've faced someone using her just ONCE this entire time.   I played one awesome Dhalsim player, but found I was able to own him badly with Abel just doing basic stuff.  It seemed like there was nothing 'Sim could do against it.

Nerfed, Cammy?  Her special moves have insane priority. 

As for my picks.  I've been playing as Guile almost exclusively in ranked matches, sometimes with some Sagat action in there.  In player matches, it has been El Fuerte, C. Viper, Gouken, Sakura, and Boxer.  C. Viper is awesome.  I need to put some more time with her as her poking and pressure game are top notch.

C. Viper is SICK SICK SICK SICK.  Haunts plays her so awesomely.  Makes my jaw drop.   :o

I need to play a good Guile so I can steal some tactics.

Paging Drohne!   :lol  It's because of his Guile that I got much better against Guile players in such a short time.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Jansen on February 23, 2009, 04:32:18 PM
fuck seth. what a douche. i couldn't beat him with c viper but once i switched to ken i beat his ass down
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: cool breeze on February 23, 2009, 04:42:09 PM
Quote
Yeah, I enjoy using the less-popular or just lesser-used characters.  Rose is another I want to learn better because I've faced someone using her just ONCE this entire time.   I played one awesome Dhalsim player, but found I was able to own him badly with Abel just doing basic stuff.  It seemed like there was nothing 'Sim could do against it.

I tried to play as Rose, but she looks like a goddamn cheeseburger and her moves suck.  It's not Fei Long suck either where they're fast after a long wind up, they are slow slow.  Only good thing about her is that her super/ultra rocks.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: MoxManiac on February 23, 2009, 08:24:38 PM
Still maining rufus. Less then a hundred away from 2000 BP, but i'm finding it hard to gain enough BP since it seems like I attract 0 bp people to the rooms I create for some reason.

People have discovered that disconnecting has no penalty, so BP doesn't really have any meaning anyways.  :-\  I still want to increase it since it seems to unlock titles/icons.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: CurseoftheGods on February 23, 2009, 10:02:31 PM
Maining Ryu. Ken has been my character since SFII, but he's been crazy nerfed compared to his Third Strike rendition. EX Hadoken doesn't knock down anymore, and it's hard to connect his Shoryureppa if your opponent is airborne. His Ultra is pretty useless as well; it has really low priority.

I love using Shotos.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Jansen on February 23, 2009, 10:13:43 PM
welp i still suck at street fighter but i'm loving the game
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 23, 2009, 10:25:37 PM
I feel like learning Sakura and Fei-Long.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Akala on February 23, 2009, 10:34:35 PM
For some reason last week, I tried unlocking characters on the 'easy' setting. I was getting cheesed by Seth pretty bad, so I gave up and did other stuff. I tried Sunday and realized that it goes another 2 tiers down, and it's just lol.

All I have left to unlock is Seth now, but haven't really had the time or inclination for an all clear.  :-\

Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: archie4208 on February 24, 2009, 06:40:16 AM
TE stick got delayed.  Now I have to play this 2 more weeks with the 360 controller. :'(
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Cheebs on February 24, 2009, 08:47:38 AM
I feel like learning Sakura and Fei-Long.
I really like using Sakura, I dunno why. I never did in the Alpha games. She is fun to learn.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: MMaRsu on February 24, 2009, 11:40:59 AM
Still dont know who I'm going to main. I like Sakura, Akuma and Gouken.. I like Gouken alot though
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: demi on February 24, 2009, 11:41:26 AM
Some british kid is the world record holder for 108 straight wins :lol
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: MMaRsu on February 24, 2009, 12:03:16 PM
Some british kid is the world record holder for 108 straight wins :lol
jesus  :lol
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 24, 2009, 03:18:16 PM
(http://www.iplaywinner.com/storage/images/kenflowchart.png)

:rofl
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: cool breeze on February 24, 2009, 03:27:46 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 24, 2009, 03:31:44 PM
BTW the Beauty Pack is now up on XBL U.S.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: MCD on February 24, 2009, 03:36:05 PM
i still can't believe capcom are charging for alt costumes, i always loved unlocking those in fighting games :(
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 24, 2009, 03:37:33 PM
i still can't believe capcom are charging for alt costumes, i always loved unlocking those in fighting games :(

It should have been like the arcade version and unlocked as a reward for getting a certain amount of BP.  Maybe 1000 would have been good.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 24, 2009, 03:47:05 PM
I'd pay to unlock Seth and Gouken - only characters I have left to unlock.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 24, 2009, 03:49:43 PM
I'd pay to unlock Seth and Gouken - only characters I have left to unlock.

Me too.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: MCD on February 24, 2009, 03:50:54 PM
i still can't believe capcom are charging for alt costumes, i always loved unlocking those in fighting games :(

It should have been like the arcade version and unlocked as a reward for getting a certain amount of BP.  Maybe 1000 would have been good.
anything but paying but what can we do...

I'd pay to unlock Seth and Gouken - only characters I have left to unlock.
I asked my friend to unlock Akuma and Gouken for me, too much work to bother.

Seth just requires patience so no problem (remember to set timer to 30 and one round).
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 24, 2009, 03:53:40 PM
I was able to get Akuma.  Gouken has been tough.  I think Abel is the easiest for me to pull off an Ultra with, but getting two opponents K.O.'d with his Ultra without toally dumbing down the difficulty is frustrating.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: MCD on February 24, 2009, 03:57:17 PM
The trick is to spam Hadouken non stop till your opponent is near death then let him damage you to fill ultra gauge then go ultra on his/her ass.

that's what my friend did anyway.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: cool breeze on February 24, 2009, 03:58:35 PM
the trick is jumping high kick, sweep the leg, continue until they have little life left, let hem beat you down, then ultra them so even if they block they die.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 24, 2009, 04:35:42 PM
I was able to get Akuma.  Gouken has been tough.  I think Abel is the easiest for me to pull off an Ultra with, but getting two opponents K.O.'d with his Ultra without toally dumbing down the difficulty is frustrating.

If you just want to do it the fast, easy way--

(Make sure you have beaten the game both WITH Akuma AND with whomever you are attempting to get Gouken with first!)

-Change the difficulty setting to easiest.
-All matches 1 round.
-Leave the timer alone.
-Pick Ryu.
-Do NOTHING but fireballs the first two matches.  You should get two perfects with no problem.  Now you're gonna need at least two ultra finishes, but to be safe go for 3-4.
-It's on the easiest difficulty, so beat the SHIT out of your opponents.  Get them down to just a few bars of life.  Now let the enemy beat you up until you get an ultra bar.  Do your ultra fireball.  Even if they block, witj the life left, they're gonna lose.  Repeat.

-Remember that if CPU Seth decides to be a fuck-head and kill you all of a sudden, hit start on controller two before the round is over-- after you beat up the lifeless "dummy," it will go back to arcade mode and start the round over as if you never lost.  This will work on any difficulty level.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Robo on February 24, 2009, 04:53:15 PM
That Ken flow chart is missing an "OH SHIT, DISCONNECT!!!!" bubble, but is otherwise on-point.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Vrolokus on February 24, 2009, 05:52:41 PM
TE stick got delayed.  Now I have to play this 2 more weeks with the 360 controller. :'(

I got the 2 week delay note, but just now I got an e-mail asking me if I still want it.

Crap... doesn't sound good...  :maf
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: archie4208 on February 24, 2009, 06:03:08 PM
TE stick got delayed.  Now I have to play this 2 more weeks with the 360 controller. :'(

I got the 2 week delay note, but just now I got an e-mail asking me if I still want it.

Crap... doesn't sound good...  :maf

Yeah I just got that email too.  I wish I had bought a HRAP EX when I had a chance. 
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Cheebs on February 24, 2009, 06:25:36 PM
the trick is jumping high kick, sweep the leg, continue until they have little life left, let hem beat you down, then ultra them so even if they block they die.
My problem is over half the time I try to pull an ultra with Ryu to unlock him he does the regular version (or a dragon punch) and ends up ko'ing them. It's frustrating.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Robo on February 24, 2009, 06:29:28 PM
If you're using a controller and having trouble hitting all three buttons simultaneously, try mapping all the punches to a trigger or something.  You'll just need to be more careful to avoid accidentally dragon punching, though.  Be sure you're getting that last forward input in before pressing the button(s).
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: cool breeze on February 24, 2009, 06:42:53 PM
yep, just fought a match against a Ken player and that chart is right on.  And what the fuck is this thing I'm seeing recently? only one round? fuck that

Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 24, 2009, 07:00:13 PM
yep, just fought a match against a Ken player and that chart is right on.  And what the fuck is this thing I'm seeing recently? only one round? fuck that



Yeah, be careful with that.  Don't be so quick to hit the ready button until you see what the settings are.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Rman on February 24, 2009, 07:02:00 PM
yep, just fought a match against a Ken player and that chart is right on.  And what the fuck is this thing I'm seeing recently? only one round? fuck that


BP whores.  Such BS.  To circumvent that I'd recommend creating your own games.  I always create my own game, because the of the lack of lobbies.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: demi on February 24, 2009, 07:03:07 PM
Can you set Ranked matches as 1 round? They are probably achievement wh0res
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Rman on February 24, 2009, 07:04:47 PM
Can you set Ranked matches as 1 round? They are probably achievement wh0res
Yes, you can set round number and time limit. 
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 24, 2009, 09:56:59 PM
What bullshit - I finally got to Gouken, beat his ass and I don't get to play as him?  What the fuck, Capcom!  Fuck you!

Also, this game is dying for a more robust online system.  The code is ace and the gameplay is fantastic, but no lobbies?  No real matchmaking dependent on skill level?  C'mon.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Rman on February 24, 2009, 10:01:08 PM
The method to unlock Gouken is weird.  There's been so much confusion on the internet about unlocking him.  I heard that you had to finish him with an ultra and then you unlock.  I was skeptical, but I tried it just in case and he was unlocked. 

Unlocking Gouken was such a pain in the ass.  Seth is worse, though.  I really hate unlocking characters in fighting games. 
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: archie4208 on February 24, 2009, 10:08:35 PM
The method to unlock Gouken is weird.  There's been so much confusion on the internet about unlocking him.  I heard that you had to finish him with an ultra and then you unlock.  I was skeptical, but I tried it just in case and he was unlocked. 

Unlocking Gouken was such a pain in the ass.  Seth is worse, though.  I really hate unlocking characters in fighting games. 

It wouldn't surprise me if Gouken was supposed to be intentionally obtuse to unlock, just like the Sheng Long April Fools joke.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Bebpo on February 24, 2009, 10:33:13 PM
What bullshit - I finally got to Gouken, beat his ass and I don't get to play as him?  What the fuck, Capcom!  Fuck you!

Also, this game is dying for a more robust online system.  The code is ace and the gameplay is fantastic, but no lobbies?  No real matchmaking dependent on skill level?  C'mon.

You need to beat arcade mode with Akuma first  :yuck
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Robo on February 24, 2009, 10:49:27 PM
That doesn't explain why I (and others) have fought and defeated Gouken without unlocking him.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 24, 2009, 10:53:26 PM
Just came across someone using Seth in an online match after all this time.  He was even easier to beat than the typical Ryu/Ken scrub. 
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Akala on February 24, 2009, 11:12:45 PM
I unlocked Gouken by beating it with Akuma, then beating it with Akuma again.

On easiest, you can just fireball them to death for perfects first two fights (if you can't just destroy them), and his ultra is very very easy to finish the computer with.

I did 2 perfects and 4 ultra finishes to unlock Gouken.

Also, Gouken isn't really all that cool IMO, even though he stole Ryu's 3S true dragon punch.  :-\
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: demi on February 24, 2009, 11:14:54 PM
That doesn't explain why I (and others) have fought and defeated Gouken without unlocking him.

Maybe because you guys fucking suck
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Robo on February 24, 2009, 11:36:43 PM
I used Ryu.  One round matches on Easiest; two perfects, three ultra wins, stomped Seth, stomped Gouken, no unlock.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: cool breeze on February 24, 2009, 11:39:50 PM
what I did was unlock Akuma with Ryu; do arcade mode with Ryu, 2 perfects, 2 ultra; finish arcade with Akuma; do arcade mode with Ryu again, 2 perfect, every other fight ended in ultra, and I unlocked Gouken.  I never fought Gouken without getting him.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Robo on February 24, 2009, 11:41:06 PM
I'm trying to help you here so please don't mind if I reiterate:

Did you fight against Gouken with a character that you've already beaten arcade mode with? Did you beat arcade mode with Akuma?

Those two are necessary steps in order to unlock Gouken.

I have Akuma unlocked and you have to beat it with Ryu to unlock Sakura, so yes.  I probably need to finish it with Akuma -- I'm guessing that's the missing link.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Rman on February 25, 2009, 02:39:40 AM
Bought the femme fatale pack :-\

Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Robo on February 25, 2009, 04:33:20 AM
Is there something wrong with the game's connection speed recognition or does this sound more like trouble on my end: I haven't played a single person in quick match with more than ZERO bars, but other than a few here and there, they've all ran fine.  When I invite a friend into my lobby, their connection speed is usually about four or five bars, other than Willco, who I can't seem to connect to at all ("unable to join"), and the games don't seem to run noticeably faster than a lot of my zero bar quick play matches.  what da deal?
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 25, 2009, 05:30:22 AM
Is there something wrong with the game's connection speed recognition or does this sound more like trouble on my end: I haven't played a single person in quick match with more than ZERO bars, but other than a few here and there, they've all ran fine.  When I invite a friend into my lobby, their connection speed is usually about four or five bars, other than Willco, who I can't seem to connect to at all ("unable to join"), and the games don't seem to run noticeably faster than a lot of my zero bar quick play matches.  what da deal?

What does the 360 say your nat type is?

I have a similar problem on PS3, which I still can't solve.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Grecco on February 25, 2009, 08:56:19 AM
Is there something wrong with the game's connection speed recognition or does this sound more like trouble on my end: I haven't played a single person in quick match with more than ZERO bars, but other than a few here and there, they've all ran fine.  When I invite a friend into my lobby, their connection speed is usually about four or five bars, other than Willco, who I can't seem to connect to at all ("unable to join"), and the games don't seem to run noticeably faster than a lot of my zero bar quick play matches.  what da deal?

Me too. The Zero bar matches have also very little lag. ITs bizarre. The whole lobby system blows.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 25, 2009, 09:59:24 AM
Yeah, I'm totally unable to connect with RoboJ - which is totally odd since I am playing Left Coasters half the time with no problems!  This seems to be a Xbox Live problem, since we can't chat or join a party either.  I reconfigured my router and everything.  Totally fucking bizzare.

The only thing I can sort of guess is that since maybe we use the same local ISP (we live relatively close to one another and I gather he's using Comcast), that that is the problem.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 25, 2009, 03:53:47 PM
Yeah, I'm totally unable to connect with RoboJ - which is totally odd since I am playing Left Coasters half the time with no problems!  This seems to be a Xbox Live problem, since we can't chat or join a party either.  I reconfigured my router and everything.  Totally fucking bizzare.

The only thing I can sort of guess is that since maybe we use the same local ISP (we live relatively close to one another and I gather he's using Comcast), that that is the problem.

It still sounds like one of you has strict nat.  I had the exact same problems trying to play with friends, chat, and join parties until mine was open.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Darunia on February 25, 2009, 07:58:57 PM
i got this game today but i haven't been able to play properly because of an annoying issue. I have the game installed, but every session i get a disc read error. i've only been able to complete the arcade mode once becuase of this. don't know what causes this. the game installed fine, i even deleted it off the drive and re installed it, nothing works. fucking sucks
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Vrolokus on February 25, 2009, 08:14:00 PM
I would actually pay a few hundred points for a "No Shotos" multiplayer filter.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: chronovore on February 25, 2009, 11:14:11 PM
A crowd of guys came over to play their PS3 copy in the games area at lunch today; as my friend and I wailed through a Rock Band 2 session to finish up lunch, they excitedly plugged their wired Sega Controllers with adaptors into the USB port on the PS3, and fired up the game, looking forward to some action in the final 15 minutes of their lunch.

...And then the PS3 began its installation-to-hard-disk routine. :rofl
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: drohne on February 25, 2009, 11:27:25 PM
zero bars doesn't really mean zero bars -- i think it just means the game hasn't tested the connection. one bar is a bad connection, zero bars could be anything
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 25, 2009, 11:27:46 PM
FUCK THIS METHOD TO GET GOUKEN. I KEEP SCREWING IT UP. I love how the computer AI randonly decides to go crazy and kill me, even on the easiest difficulty level.

A crowd of guys came over to play their PS3 copy in the games area at lunch today; as my friend and I wailed through a Rock Band 2 session to finish up lunch, they excitedly plugged their wired Sega Controllers with adaptors into the USB port on the PS3, and fired up the game, looking forward to some action in the final 15 minutes of their lunch.

...And then the PS3 began its installation-to-hard-disk routine. :rofl

They could've just forgone the installation process. The wait time isn't that bad.  ::)
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 25, 2009, 11:33:50 PM
FUCK THIS METHOD TO GET GOUKEN. I KEEP SCREWING IT UP. I love how the computer AI randonly decides to go crazy and kill me, even on the easiest difficulty level.

A crowd of guys came over to play their PS3 copy in the games area at lunch today; as my friend and I wailed through a Rock Band 2 session to finish up lunch, they excitedly plugged their wired Sega Controllers with adaptors into the USB port on the PS3, and fired up the game, looking forward to some action in the final 15 minutes of their lunch.

...And then the PS3 began its installation-to-hard-disk routine. :rofl

They could've just forgone the installation process. The wait time isn't that bad.  ::)

 :o

Combine wait times from uninstalled copies with online load times, and you get some nasty wait times.  I've waited 30 seconds for a match before!

Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: cool breeze on February 25, 2009, 11:34:55 PM
Even with installed I've had to wait long for online matches at times.  I wonder if that was because I had installed, but the other guy didn't.  I've always wondered how that would end up.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 26, 2009, 12:11:05 AM
Heads up, pirates-- The shitty Chun-Li live action movie has a DVD rip out!

Even with installed I've had to wait long for online matches at times.  I wonder if that was because I had installed, but the other guy didn't.  I've always wondered how that would end up.

That's how I figure it.  This doesn't happen in the 360 version.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 26, 2009, 02:21:33 AM
I just played some games against Drohne-- didn't even realize until today that cross-ups can STOP GUILE'S FLASHKICK, WHAT THE FUCK?!  Did Capcom have a vendetta against Guile when they made this game? Holy crap, using him must be like a constant uphill battle. 

I feel like my Cammy game against Guile just got a whole lot easier, but that's just not right.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: drohne on February 26, 2009, 02:30:19 AM
you fuckin killed me today -- i don't know if it's your offense or your throws, but somehow i just freeze up when i'm playing you. LOTS of stuff beats guile's flashkick in this game -- crossups, deep jump-ins, certain jump-ins from any distance, certain specials that flashkick used to own. the trick is to use flashkick, ex flashkick, down+fierce, jumping fierce, air throw, focus attack, etc. depending on the situation, all of which should combine to give a good guile a solid defense, but as you saw i haven't, uh, quite mastered it yet

i definitely need to start using d+hp as my primary antiair rather than flashkick, but as soon as i start thinking down+hp, i start eating chun's overhead special, which i should be able to flashkick on reaction :'(
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Grecco on February 26, 2009, 09:53:53 AM
I just played some games against Drohne-- didn't even realize until today that cross-ups can STOP GUILE'S FLASHKICK, WHAT THE FUCK?!  Did Capcom have a vendetta against Guile when they made this game? Holy crap, using him must be like a constant uphill battle. 

I feel like my Cammy game against Guile just got a whole lot easier, but that's just not right.

Possibly. He was the most overpowered character in SF2 so i guess they wanted to have him be the most nerfed in SFIV. Karma. All that.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 26, 2009, 10:50:29 AM
I just played some games against Drohne-- didn't even realize until today that cross-ups can STOP GUILE'S FLASHKICK, WHAT THE FUCK?!  Did Capcom have a vendetta against Guile when they made this game? Holy crap, using him must be like a constant uphill battle. 

I feel like my Cammy game against Guile just got a whole lot easier, but that's just not right.

Possibly. He was the most overpowered character in SF2 so i guess they wanted to have him be the most nerfed in SFIV. Karma. All that.

Yeah, *SF2*.  Like, vanilla-original SF2.  Certainly not in the later versions.

Some of the toned-down stuff I like though.  Or rather just watching people try to play certain characters (Boxer, Claw) like Super Turbo and then punishing them for it is fun.  Same with players who try to play Fei Long like HD Remix.  I felt sorry for this one Boxer player who was trying to abuse his headbutt throw.   :lol
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 26, 2009, 09:03:38 PM
Finally got Gouken!

I'll probably never use, but I got him!
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 26, 2009, 09:08:09 PM
I had him too, distantmantra.  Had him.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Jansen on February 26, 2009, 11:30:13 PM
hey what did the auto update released at launch add?
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: DJ_Tet on February 27, 2009, 12:47:04 AM
Any advice on how to do the charge ultras, ala Bison (Dictator?)

I opened up two more characters tonight, it's all about baby steps but I'm really enjoying the game with my friends.  I'm afraid we aren't quite ready for XBL though.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 27, 2009, 12:52:06 AM
Any advice on how to do the charge ultras, ala Bison (Dictator?)

I opened up two more characters tonight, it's all about baby steps but I'm really enjoying the game with my friends.  I'm afraid we aren't quite ready for XBL though.

It seems that being able to do charge supers super quick is gone.  I find that I often still miss it with Chun-Li if I am not holding back long enough. 
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Robo on February 27, 2009, 01:11:46 AM
I just got yelled at again.  :-\  Folks do not like being thrown (over and over and over and over). 

I'm having a little too much fun being a total bastard to shotoscrubs.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 27, 2009, 02:37:55 AM
I just got yelled at again.  :-\  Folks do not like being thrown (over and over and over and over). 

I'm having a little too much fun being a total bastard to shotoscrubs.

Have you tried just plugging in a mic and doing nothing but laughing over and over (Charlie Murphy style) again, then disconnecting the mic again?
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Robo on February 27, 2009, 02:46:29 AM
oh god, i want to go do that RIGHT NOW
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: DJ_Tet on February 27, 2009, 09:28:56 AM


It seems that being able to do charge supers super quick is gone.  I find that I often still miss it with Chun-Li if I am not holding back long enough. 


So is it *hold back 2 sec*  tap forward, tap back, tap forward + kick?


Or do I have to press forward for a beat after I charge? 


Charging motions are taking a bit to get used to on the fight pads  :'(
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Grecco on February 27, 2009, 12:14:06 PM
Pftt.. Try Giefs super. Ive tried the real way and the cheat way and i still cant do it. God freaking damnit.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Robo on February 27, 2009, 12:47:56 PM
360s and 720s are actually much easier in SF4 than in previous games due to the lax input requirements, but you'll still have some difficulty doing the super from a standing position if you're unfamiliar with the technique. 

The easiest way is to do an empty jump in on your opponent and roll the 720 on the way down, pressing the buttons when you land.  After you get that down, you can move on to buffering the 720 during other moves, like the green hand or a forward dash.

I suppose it might help to know that the "360" and "720" rolls are not actually full 360s or 720s, but that may be complicating things.

edit: If it's just the fightpad that's giving you trouble, try changing the directional pad toggle from d-pad to left stick or vice versa.  Might have better luck with the inputs.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 27, 2009, 03:55:27 PM


It seems that being able to do charge supers super quick is gone.  I find that I often still miss it with Chun-Li if I am not holding back long enough. 


So is it *hold back 2 sec*  tap forward, tap back, tap forward + kick?


Or do I have to press forward for a beat after I charge? 


Charging motions are taking a bit to get used to on the fight pads  :'(

It's that exactly.  I notice that I have some difficulty doing it on the fight pad too since it's so loose.  Before I had a PS3 pad I was able to do it with no problem with a PS3 controller.

Pftt.. Try Giefs super. Ive tried the real way and the cheat way and i still cant do it. God freaking damnit.

Pfft.  Easy as shit.  What Robo J said.  The trick here is that it's not really a full motion.  For example if you want to do a 360, just do a half circle back and then immediately hit up and punch/kick together.  It will work every time and you'll find that you're no longer jumping around trying to get it to come off.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Jansen on February 27, 2009, 11:48:02 PM
anyone watch the anime yet? how bad is it?
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Rman on February 28, 2009, 01:04:30 AM
anyone watch the anime yet? how bad is it?
I bought the CE and I still haven't watched the anime--I heard it's terrible.  I haven't even watched the prologue and ending movies, even though I beat it with everyone.

I've been playing with the new characters more of late--Rufus, El Fuerte, and Viper.  I'm really impressed by El Fuerte's game.   His stamina sucks but you can really play some mind games with him.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Beezy on February 28, 2009, 03:00:54 AM
So far, online players are dumbfounded whenever I pick Balrog. I love playing as that disrespectful asshole. :lol
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on February 28, 2009, 03:23:03 PM
anyone watch the anime yet? how bad is it?

It's nonsensical, boring, and awful.  Like most animu!

No, really.  It was pretty bad.  Wouldn't waste my time with it.  I liked the original SF2 animated movie, but the rest have all stunk.  This one follows that trend.  It focuses on Ken, Guile, Chun-Li, and C. Viper, and also features Ryu (everyone is looking for him, dark hadou, zzzzzzzzzzz), Sakura, Cammy, and Seth.  It's a prequel to the "story" in the game although it also fucks up continuity.

The animated intros and endings in the game are a hell of a lot more fun to watch.

So far, online players are dumbfounded whenever I pick Balrog. I love playing as that disrespectful asshole. :lol

Haha, I was playing a certain infamous friend last night, who was clueless as to what to do against him.  I think I am gonna switch to beating him down with Sagat to Balrog.   :lol
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Vrolokus on February 28, 2009, 04:41:54 PM
anyone watch the anime yet? how bad is it?

I actually thought it was alright. Not as good as the old SFII anime, of course, but fair. Not a lot of fighting, though - go in knowing this is a preamble to SFIV.

The art and animation is a shitload better than what you see in the SFIV character intros/endings. That stuff is godawful.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Grecco on February 28, 2009, 05:06:25 PM
No SF anime will beat the first one because of lack of Chunli boobs
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Beezy on February 28, 2009, 06:49:48 PM

So far, online players are dumbfounded whenever I pick Balrog. I love playing as that disrespectful asshole. :lol

Haha, I was playing a certain infamous friend last night, who was clueless as to what to do against him.  I think I am gonna switch to beating him down with Sagat to Balrog.   :lol
I've been switching between M. Bison and Balrog. I love the charge characters. I was also using Chun Li before, but she takes time to learn. I'm trying to figure who else to use. I tried Guile, but I can't pull off his ultra. His and Vega's are the only ultras that I have problems with.

Btw, I finally tried out Ken today and now I realize why so many people use him online. He's fast, ridiculously easy to learn and to combo with. Too bad most Ken players online so far do the same predictable shit.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: drohne on February 28, 2009, 11:57:42 PM
I tried Guile, but I can't pull off his ultra.

it's useless anyway. i can only land the damnable thing when my opponent misses his ultra or whiffs a fierce srk or something
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: MMaRsu on March 01, 2009, 01:21:19 PM
FUCK I am so fucking pissed off at these noob fucking scrub Ken and Sagat players...WHAT THE FUCK

Okay so I main Sakura, she's weak, but I like her and she has some good combo's etc.. but these guys do nothing but spam the same fucking moves over and over, and mostly I punish them, but they only have to get off 1 or 2 moves to drain my fucking HP.

FUCKING LOSERS DIE IN A FIRE
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: DJ_Tet on March 01, 2009, 02:51:46 PM
Ahh, got everyone unlocked except for Seth  :smug


Seth is only a matter of time.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: archie4208 on March 01, 2009, 03:17:53 PM
got raped in my gaf tournament match. :(  i'll be a scrub and blame the 360 controller.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on March 01, 2009, 03:21:19 PM
got raped in my gaf tournament match. :(  i'll be a scrub and blame the 360 controller.

Man, you had Grifter as your opponent.  That was harsh for the first round!   :lol
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: archie4208 on March 01, 2009, 03:22:08 PM
I played like 7 matches after our tourney fights and won probably no more than 5 rounds.  He plays an insane Dictator.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Robo on March 01, 2009, 06:55:01 PM
[youtube=560,345]lato8FmMoIQ[/youtube]

 :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Mr. Gundam on March 01, 2009, 08:04:26 PM
[youtube=560,345]lato8FmMoIQ[/youtube]

 :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

What's with the near constant rapid punching? Turbo button?
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Robo on March 01, 2009, 08:29:55 PM
He mentions on the youtube page that it's a homage to another Guile player.

This guy:

[youtube=560,345]qEQOS4Waw6s[/youtube]
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: tiesto on March 01, 2009, 08:35:51 PM
I can never do the charge-based ultra combos... any advice?
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Rman on March 01, 2009, 09:25:12 PM
After charging for two full seconds, you must repeat the following movements pretty quickly. 
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Rman on March 03, 2009, 01:30:10 PM
 Akuma's alt costume is wilde homo.  Dude has crazy quads.  It looks like he could squat over 1000 pounds.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Mr. Gundam on March 03, 2009, 03:36:11 PM
Finally unlocked Seth last night. I don't plan on ever using him, but I did it and got a stupid trophy for my efforts.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on March 03, 2009, 04:05:54 PM
Haha, I just played this Sagat user.  He fell for EVERY SINGLE THROW I did to him.  EVERY TIME.

So after the match, I get a message that says "Wow.  Your cheap throws rock!"  And I reply "Wow.  You can't even counter throws.  You don't rock!" 

I love playing distinguished mentally-challenged fellows like this.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: muckhole on March 03, 2009, 07:27:10 PM
Just got a copy of this for my birthday, so if anyone wants to get some easy wins kicking my ass, feel free to add me. I should be on later tonight.

360 GT: Laughingstock

Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: demi on March 03, 2009, 07:55:57 PM
Finally unlocked Seth last night. I don't plan on ever using him, but I did it and got a stupid trophy for my efforts.

Fuck you asshole achievements #1
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on March 04, 2009, 03:43:12 AM
Man, I just played 86 matches in a row.  O_o

spoiler (click to show/hide)
I won 78 of them  :o
[close]
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: CurseoftheGods on March 04, 2009, 05:58:37 PM
i'm gay
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Vrolokus on March 04, 2009, 08:30:25 PM
Finally settled on a main: Blanka.  What's awesome so far is the shoto-scrubs don't seem to have any idea how to handle him, especially after I EX-rolling ball through a few of their hadokens.  8)

Good riddance, losers.  :lol
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: archie4208 on March 04, 2009, 08:41:16 PM
Just faced a scroto with 2800 BP.  All he did was spam SRK.  Kinda scary.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Herr Mafflard on March 05, 2009, 02:24:51 PM
Just checked out some of the Leo Tan video guides for SF4, and they're really good.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/street-fighter-iv-video-experts-guides-article
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Himu on March 10, 2009, 01:24:03 AM
Went to a friends house today and played 5 hours straight. Dare I say goty?

My only problem right now is doing Ultras because the 360 pad is not good with fighters at all.

I'm surprised I've managed to play perfectly with the 360 d-pad. For some reason it's pretty comfortable for it, and it's the triggers/bumpers on the pad that throw me off.

My main is Cammy and honestly, she's one of the few characters I feel comfortable as hell playing with. I'm not big on Chun-Li now that I'm not relegated to arcade play.

Cammy, Sakura, Ryu/Ken, C. Viper, Abel are easily the characters I have the most fun with. Blanka's fun to use too. Despite being "nerfed" I can still get a lot of mileage out of Cammy. Also, her alternate costume is  :-*

Right now though, my biggest hurdle next to ultras are counter-throws. I'm having trouble pulling them off, especially against people like Abel, Gief, and El Fuerte.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Beezy on March 10, 2009, 03:18:23 AM
Right now though, my biggest hurdle next to ultras are counter-throws. I'm having trouble pulling them off, especially against people like Abel, Gief, and El Fuerte.
Is that even possible against those characters who have throws which are special moves?
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Himu on March 10, 2009, 03:50:46 AM
I'm having trouble with throw escapes period
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Robo on March 10, 2009, 04:16:51 AM
I'm having trouble with dealing with tic-throws, myself.  They are damn quick in this game and players using quicker characters can sneak that shit in with hardly any notice.  It's almost better to just eat the throw rather than risk something more damaging.  Really gotta be on your toes.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on March 10, 2009, 04:23:10 AM
Online play against random players is beginning to get a little boring now; I was hoping the crap would have cleared out, but they are still there.  I either get awful players, shit-lag, disconnects, distinguished mentally-challenged fellows who kick me in player matches after one match (they lost), or a combination of the above.  Even doing ranked and filtering to my level or above isn't working the way it used to.  I think I might be a little burned out on the game; took some time off from the past weekend and went back a bit last night and tonight.  I'm not stopping though, at least not until KOF XII and Blaz Blue are out in the summer.   ;)

I'm having trouble with dealing with tic-throws, myself.  They are damn quick in this game and players using quicker characters can sneak that shit in with hardly any notice.  It's almost better to just eat the throw rather than risk something more damaging.  Really gotta be on your toes.

I always have my finger on the "trigger," ready to throw at a moment's notice.  Since I main Chun (now more so than) and Cammy, I can both throw and air throw like CRAZY.  It's also a LOT EASIER to throw using the Mad Catz pad; stock 360 pads and this game just don't mix.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Robo on March 10, 2009, 04:33:47 AM
I probably just need to get adjusted to the auto-block.  I'm so conditioned by Third Strike to not touch anything while in block stun that I don't even think that I can throw in a cautionary throw escape until I'm fully out of it.  I think that would help with the really close calls that I'm having the most trouble with.

It's actually kinda funny - when I'm playing with friends less familiar with Street Fighter in general, I'll hear them mashing buttons and rolling the stick and going apeshit while they're in block stun and I'll think, "man, you're fucking crazy".  I can't imagine I'll ever get completely used to that.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: cool breeze on March 10, 2009, 04:45:15 AM
my biggest problem is still being able to pull off an ultra/super motion correctly with it registering as something completely different.  Last night I played a bit online and only one match I felt like I legitimately lost and it was against a really good Guile player.  All the rest had exact instances where I would have won if I could pull off the ultra at that moment.  The worst is with my man Fei Long and doing his roll over the back thing, which a good setup to get into an ultra, but I can never seem to pull it off.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: MoxManiac on March 12, 2009, 02:25:43 AM
I'm having trouble with dealing with tic-throws, myself.  They are damn quick in this game and players using quicker characters can sneak that shit in with hardly any notice.  It's almost better to just eat the throw rather than risk something more damaging.  Really gotta be on your toes.

If you think they are going for a tick throw you can jump out of them as an alternative to teching the throw. Of course if they anticipate you doing that...
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Robo on March 12, 2009, 01:04:32 PM
I'm having trouble with dealing with tic-throws, myself.  They are damn quick in this game and players using quicker characters can sneak that shit in with hardly any notice.  It's almost better to just eat the throw rather than risk something more damaging.  Really gotta be on your toes.

If you think they are going for a tick throw you can jump out of them as an alternative to teching the throw. Of course if they anticipate you doing that...


I jump out of obvious throw situations that I put myself in (or any throw situation involving a character with a command throw), but regular tic throws are a different bag and so quick that I think I'd rather miss the tech and eat the throw rather than risk bigger damage unsuccessfully jumping out (even worse, unsuccessfully jumping out and remaining grounded).  The worst thing about getting thrown isn't the damage, so much - it's your opponent gaining crucial momentum, putting you in a position favorable to them and getting a leg up on you.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Robo on March 12, 2009, 08:11:23 PM
Great Dhalsim in a tough match-up.  Watch in HQ to see what the hell is going on.

[youtube=560,345]QCHik2hEIrk&fmt=18[/youtube]
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: demi on March 12, 2009, 08:44:50 PM
wow how exciting... throwing fireballs

zzzz
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: archie4208 on March 12, 2009, 08:57:07 PM
TE shipped :hyper :hyper :hyper
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: MoxManiac on March 13, 2009, 02:50:28 AM
Yeah, that's Iyo, his Dhalsim is amazingly good, as that video can attest.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Jansen on March 13, 2009, 02:53:43 AM
i haven't played online very much but from what i have played there seems to be a bit of input lag in most matches even when i host :/
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Vrolokus on March 13, 2009, 03:20:10 AM
Okay, now i've ended up with an extra TE stick (360). Before I turn to eBay, I wanted to see if any of my fellow evilborians were interested - I'd charge retail plus shipping.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: archie4208 on March 14, 2009, 05:52:26 PM
Hey lyte, do you still play this on XBL?  I'd love to play against you sometime in the future and practice with my TE stick.  I'm sure you'd destroy me.  :P
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on March 14, 2009, 09:23:28 PM
Hey lyte, do you still play this on XBL?  I'd love to play against you sometime in the future and practice with my TE stick.  I'm sure you'd destroy me.  :P

Yup, all the time.  I don't think I'll be letting up until the summer when BlazBlue and KOF XII are out!  Just send me a message anytime on Live.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: FatalT on March 15, 2009, 01:22:20 AM
Add me for some SF4 action too! Now that I've actually bought it and a fightpad instead of just renting it I'll be playing it more often.

GT: FatalT
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Rman on March 17, 2009, 03:35:09 AM
Those were some fun games, Archie.  Are you learning Rufus?  I've been messing with him as well; he's pretty competent.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on March 17, 2009, 06:01:59 AM
Nobody messaged or added me.   :'(

Here is a nice solution to try for those tired of the same boring scrubs and/or trash-talking distinguished mentally-challenged fellows over and over again-- play people with different language settings.  I did some ranked matches against Japanese players, and not only did I fight characters like  :o :o Dhalsim  :o :o and  :o :o Cammy  :o :o, but even the "scrubs" played a little differently.  And nowhere near as many "unable to connect" or "this match has already started" messages popped up.

On the U.S. side of things, I played against a Vega user (holy shit, rare!) and perhaps new XBox user (only had a 130 gamer score) tonight with Chun, and spanked his ass.  I plugged in my mic after the match started so he wouldn't know it, and listened to him begin to say "taco...taco...taco!!" every time I hit him.  I beat him the first round okay.  The second round, I perfect him.  He has no clue what to do against my offense after I've cornered him, and he went down whining like a bitch.  So I turn the mic on, and for the first time since I got the game, did some trash talking of my own.  Nothing special, just "haha, you SUCK.  You're an awful player."  He gets all emotional on me and is complaining I do the same thing over and over.  "Why would I do anything else if you can't beat this?"  I say.  "THIS GAME IS SUPPOSED TO BE FUN!!!!11  U ARE SUPPOSED TO PLAY FOR FUN!!!!!11"  he replies.  I say "I am playing fun.  You're the one who started talking shit, not me."  And then he turned his mic off and took the rest of his beating in silence.  Perhaps something was learned this day.  Doubtful, but perhaps.  To the guy's credit, he didn't disconnect like I figured he would. 
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Lafiel on March 17, 2009, 07:10:53 AM
What is up with the unable to play crap? got that on 60% of the 3-4 star games i found. SO FRUSTRATING. :( (i have the PS3 version btw).
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: archie4208 on March 17, 2009, 07:40:00 AM
Nobody messaged or added me.   :'(

I tried but your friends list was full.

Those were some fun games, Archie.  Are you learning Rufus?  I've been messing with him as well; he's pretty competent.

Yeah I was just goofing off with him.  Blanka is my main but I want to learn another character. 
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: MCD on March 17, 2009, 02:17:05 PM
FUCK YEAH MEDAL MASTER
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Rman on March 17, 2009, 06:08:01 PM
Nobody messaged or added me.   :'(

I tried but your friends list was full.

Those were some fun games, Archie.  Are you learning Rufus?  I've been messing with him as well; he's pretty competent.

Yeah I was just goofing off with him.  Blanka is my main but I want to learn another character. 
Yeah, I do the same in player matches.  Guile is my main.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: archie4208 on March 17, 2009, 10:41:58 PM
OT but I was playing some Super Turbo on GGPO and got MURDERED by the competition.  I lost like 20 games in a row to this one guy.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on March 18, 2009, 03:31:19 AM
I would think it would be "easier" to get your ass handed to you in OG Super Turbo than it would in HD Remix. 

Archie, send me another friend request; imma get rid of a few GAFfers or something.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: archie4208 on March 18, 2009, 08:08:54 AM
Well GGPOers are going to be more hardcore in the first place, and it doesn't help I play Honda who is uber gimp in OG ST.

Also lyte I'll add ya after I get off work.  Might be the weekend before we can get some games on, though.  :gloomy tax season :gloomy
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: archie4208 on March 19, 2009, 11:01:42 PM
GGs lyte.  You play a mean Chun.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on March 19, 2009, 11:07:10 PM
I just quit my first match...before it even started! I join a game and the guy is just moving the cursor over every character the entire 30 seconds on the select screen. Since I wasn't hosting, I couldn't do the same thing back to him on stage select, so I just quit right when the timer hit zero. Damn griefers!   :P

Also played a bit of HD Remix earlier today.  It's just too damn hard going back and forth like this.  I found myself (again) trying to throw with jab and short.   :'(

GGs lyte.  You play a mean Chun.

GREAT games, man!  Your Blanka is awesome and gave me quite the workout!  Those slides...THOSE SLIDES AND THOSE OVERHEAD CROSS-UP BLANKA BALLS ARGH   :lol

BTW I see you are/were in the GAF tournament, and you listed Honda as your main.  Do you still use him or is it Blanka now?
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: archie4208 on March 19, 2009, 11:20:29 PM
I just can't compete with Honda.  Blanka is my main simply because I am the best with him.  He's really boring IMO and I'm trying to learn Rufus.  I'm sure you can tell that is very much a work in progress. :P

Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on March 20, 2009, 04:49:45 AM
I just can't compete with Honda.  Blanka is my main simply because I am the best with him.  He's really boring IMO and I'm trying to learn Rufus.  I'm sure you can tell that is very much a work in progress. :P



Honda and Blanka are my biggest weaknesses.  Well, expert Honda players anyway.  An average Blanka player can still get me though.  One of the reasons I ended up maining Chun instead of my original choice, Cammy, is because I couldn't fucking touch Honda and Blanka players with her.

I'd actually like to learn more of Rose.  Especially after seeing the video where Saqs beats the shit out of a whiny Evo "champion" player using Boxer. 

MoxManiac plays a mean Rufus, but he's on PSN.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: archie4208 on March 22, 2009, 08:07:55 PM
This game gives me RAGE when I'm on a losing streak.  My throat hurts from shouting "goddamn distinguished black fellow" at the top of my lungs.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Rman on March 22, 2009, 11:21:29 PM
Losing streaks are demoralizing.  I feel like total garbage while in one.  It was different in the arcades because the monetary hit was the worst aspect of losing, but online you just have to suck it up and keep playing.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: CHOW CHOW on March 23, 2009, 10:46:21 AM
anyone wanna play, psn id hippopotamus
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: archie4208 on March 27, 2009, 11:23:11 AM
Finally got this game today. God I suck dick. Anyone in this thread could destroy me.

Yes.  I could.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Beezy on March 27, 2009, 11:58:10 AM
Finally got this game today. God I suck dick. Anyone in this thread could destroy me.
You'd fail to stave off my boredom.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on March 27, 2009, 06:13:16 PM
From Versuscity.net:

Quote
The official Street Fighter IV blog has updated today and this time around, they have answered a bunch of questions that the users have asked over the past couple of weeks. You can find the original blog entry here, but since it’s all in Japanese, here is a summary of the most important points from the blog. Please note that they often talk about a “title update” in many of the answers, and I can only assume they’re talking about the free DLC that will add the championship and replay modes to the game.

For those who are on using this translation on their own site, please credit Oichi and link to Versus City in exchange for using the translation, thank you.

※When the game gets updated, there will be changes to the base game and characters. What changes will be made is unknown, but the “obvious points” will be addressed. You know as much as I do on this.

※Neither Dee Jay nor T.Hawk will make an appearance after the title update.

※No decision on new costumes for the home version, but during the summer there will be some sort of special announcement. No hint on what it will be though.

※Cannot comment on whether Shin Akuma or Evil Ryu will make an appearance in future updates. Sticking closer to the source language, they state that they haven’t decided on this.

※After the title update, there will be a disconnect rate/ratio shown with every player. However, since there is always the situation that a connection may be very laggy and disconnect by accident, over time the disconnect ratio will decrease. The wording on this is kind of strange, because if you think about it, sure, if you have a high disconnect rate and then don’t disconnect for a long period of time, of course the ratio will go down, but perhaps there is some sort of extra penalty associated with disconnecting.

※No plans for a Mac version of SF4.

※Will announce the release date of the PC version very soon. As a bonus for PC gamers who have waited for so long, they’ll receive a nice surprise with their version of the game.

※Cannot comment on the arcade version receiving an update to include the console exclusive characters, but they would like to add them if they can.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: MoxManiac on March 27, 2009, 07:54:16 PM
let's play lyte~
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Robo on March 27, 2009, 08:10:05 PM
MoxMan, send hook me up with your gamertag if you're on XBL.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Smooth Groove on March 27, 2009, 08:28:56 PM
Yes!!!  PC version is still coming out!   

I guess there's no need for me to hunt around for a 360 joystick anymore. 
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: archie4208 on March 27, 2009, 09:10:46 PM
Yes!!!  PC version is still coming out!   

I guess there's no need for me to hunt around for a 360 joystick anymore. 

Why is that?  360 stick will work with the PC version.  I use it on GGPO and it works like a dream.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on March 27, 2009, 09:45:58 PM
let's play lyte~

Sure mayne.  I'll hop on and see if you're on now...

MoxMan, send hook me up with your gamertag if you're on XBL.

Mox only has PS3, IIRC.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: MoxManiac on March 27, 2009, 10:44:54 PM
Ack, sorry lyte, i saw your invite but i was playing with someone. Are you still there? :(

I'm such an asshole to ask you to play and then end up playing someone else. It just kinda happened   :'( :lol :o
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Smooth Groove on March 27, 2009, 10:54:16 PM
Yes!!!  PC version is still coming out!   

I guess there's no need for me to hunt around for a 360 joystick anymore. 

Why is that?  360 stick will work with the PC version.  I use it on GGPO and it works like a dream.

I have a PS2 Hori HRAP 2 SA.  With a USB adapter, it's compatible with PC and PS3 but not 360. 
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on March 28, 2009, 02:10:16 AM
Ack, sorry lyte, i saw your invite but i was playing with someone. Are you still there? :(

I'm such an asshole to ask you to play and then end up playing someone else. It just kinda happened   :'( :lol :o

 :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: MCD on March 28, 2009, 05:21:01 AM
protip: set the timer to 30 sec on 1 round to have the least amount of rage beating him.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: archie4208 on March 28, 2009, 09:45:46 AM
Pick Zangief and spam lariat.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: archie4208 on March 28, 2009, 05:26:58 PM
Hey lyte, when are ya gonna be available to play again?  I wanna play someone who can beat the shit out of me.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: FatalT on March 28, 2009, 06:21:09 PM
I'll play. Add FatalT
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: archie4208 on March 28, 2009, 06:53:41 PM
Sorry for leaving early FatalT.  There is a bad thunderstorm atm and the lights are flickering.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: FatalT on March 28, 2009, 06:55:01 PM
S'okay. I totally suck. Next time we fight I'm going to try Ken/Ryu/Faggotry against you. I'm okay with them. I'm trying to learn Rose/C. Viper but it's not going very well.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on March 28, 2009, 07:39:22 PM
Hey lyte, when are ya gonna be available to play again?  I wanna play someone who can beat the shit out of me.

I'm all emo and afraid you won't play.  DO U SEE WHAT U DID TO ME MOX MANIAC

DO U SEE
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: MoxManiac on March 28, 2009, 11:29:26 PM
 :(
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on March 28, 2009, 11:59:54 PM
SCARRED 4 LYFE
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: archie4208 on March 29, 2009, 05:36:47 PM
Playing people with >3k BP is so stressful.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on March 29, 2009, 07:04:22 PM
Playing people with >3k BP is so stressful.

But it's great when you beat them and laff and laff.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on March 30, 2009, 03:17:17 AM
So Mox and I played, and then I had to leave briefly (wife had to quit the job she just found, freak-out occurs days later at like midnight; why does this stuff always have to happen right when I sit down to play games?   :lol) and came back for more fightin'.  Quite intense; the final tally was 12-10 me (or 12-11 if you wanna count the match I had to leave in); I quit while I was ahead mayne.   ;) 

Most of our matches were neck and neck and I love playing in bouts like this, so heated and you really gotta work to get that final victory.  Mox got my Cammy with his Boxer every time, too.   :'( 

I swear you're the only Rufus player I get to play.  Can't even remember the last time I came across a Rufus in ranked or player matches on either system.  But then again 99% of every match is always Shoto and Sagat with the occasional Blanka, Gief, and Gouken for me.

Do we have enough people here on either platform to have an Evilbore tourney?  I dunno if we got enough PS3 players.  Also how about an ALL-DAN tournament, minimum 10 taunts required in every round?   :P
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Enl on March 30, 2009, 04:15:56 AM
I'd be up for an EB tourney.

Hopefully they have the servers fixed by now to where I can finally get a match with you Lyte. I'd like to test your Chun-li out against mine and see what kind of tricks you use.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: NME on March 30, 2009, 08:03:10 AM
Well, I finally got the game (360), so I'm all for doing a tourney. Understand though that nuanced playing is not my forte.

I've got no idea when I'm supposed to focus attack, I've never dashed afterward, and I have no idea how to cancel out of a combo into a super, or if that's even the right series of words to make any sense.

But, I do enjoy playing the game, so I'm all for the idea of a tournament.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: archie4208 on March 30, 2009, 09:29:01 AM
An all Dan tournament sounds like a good idea :lol
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Beezy on March 30, 2009, 09:57:12 AM
I'd do a tourney (360). Dictator is my main, trying to learn Boxer and Sakura.

I hope none of you are counterpickers. That shit ruined the tourney at my school a week ago.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: T234 on March 30, 2009, 10:46:21 AM
I'd be down. I'm fucking terrible, though.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: MoxManiac on March 30, 2009, 11:45:01 PM
Yeah, good games lyte. Even if it did make work the next day rough due to being up late  :lol

Looks like the matchmaking finally works for me if i'm patient enough with custom match filters. I've been using arcade mode to find people and the filters don't work there at all. I've been stuck perpetually at 3500 bp or so because each win was giving me +1 and each loss was like -999999. Now that the filter is working in custom match i seem to be getting 4000+ people consistently and for the most part they play pretty well. And very few disconnectors, which suprises me.

I ran into this fuerte player i literally couldn't touch. It's like he was able to read my mind every single moment, and his execution was flawless. I need to find that guy again!
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on March 31, 2009, 03:12:26 AM
I'd do a tourney (360). Dictator is my main, trying to learn Boxer and Sakura.

I hope none of you are counterpickers. That shit ruined the tourney at my school a week ago.

Fuck counterpickers.  If we do a tourney, it's just like the GAF one-- you have sign up and say who you will use (either just one character or a choice of two) for the entire tourney.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: drohne on March 31, 2009, 03:21:43 AM
i'd play in an eb tourney, though i got kind of nervous and played like shit in my gaf hdremix tourney games :-\

actually wouldn't know which character to use if it's got to be one -- my guile and ryu are just about even right now. my abel is...uh...the less said about my abel the better
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on March 31, 2009, 03:25:20 AM
i'd play in an eb tourney, though i got kind of nervous and played like shit in my gaf hdremix tourney games :-\

actually wouldn't know which character to use if it's got to be one -- my guile and ryu are just about even right now. my abel is...uh...the less said about my abel the better

Well, then we should probably do two characters, a main and an alt.  Would be more fun that way anyhow; get beat down with one character, and you might still have a fighting chance with the other.

I think I can get a couple of people from elsewhere to enter the tourney too.  At least for 360.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on March 31, 2009, 04:10:34 AM
I love the Bad Losers Wall Of Shame.  Even got one of my disconnect pics up!

http://thebadloserswallofshame.blogspot.com/2009/03/lyte-edge-must-be-exploiting-some-game.html
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Herr Mafflard on March 31, 2009, 05:32:24 AM
I'd be down for tournament, just to make up the numbers lol.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: NME on March 31, 2009, 05:15:37 PM
Well, I count seven for a tournament at this point. Eight would be the bare minimum, but I think we can do 16. Maybe.

Well, it would be nice, anyway.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on March 31, 2009, 05:56:55 PM
There are at least three more people from the blog site handofwin.com I'm on that would be interested in taking part in this too.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on March 31, 2009, 06:03:04 PM
Here's my total playtime in SF4 on both 360 and PS3 so far. 

(http://api.ning.com/files/G2vO6U-BTHtREv8vmyuPmE*gadW71ytgGeVaXkaZ6ayQSghB3y9J4oU5452I4Gf3mI7DmHE5eNezvMjGNjo7G5H7bo2D7N01/sf4play.jpg)

Total of 134 hours, 46 minutes and 1,171 out 1,516 total matches won.  Highest BP level so far is 3268.  I think I have more Cammy usage on 360 and more Chun-Li usage on PS3.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: MoxManiac on March 31, 2009, 07:25:13 PM
i'm in for a tourney~
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Robo on March 31, 2009, 07:27:28 PM
I am down for a tournament.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on March 31, 2009, 07:27:41 PM
I don't think we have enough PS3 players here.   :-\
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: MoxManiac on March 31, 2009, 07:49:00 PM
I don't think we have enough PS3 players here.   :-\

This is all your fault!
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on March 31, 2009, 08:01:16 PM
 :'(

Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: NME on March 31, 2009, 08:59:27 PM
Yeah, I guess to be clear it would be a 360 tournament.

So, if you don't have the game for 360, well, that'd be a problem, wouldn't it?
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: The Fake Shemp on March 31, 2009, 09:17:34 PM
I've almost abandoned Street Fighter after my save file was deleted twice now.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Rman on March 31, 2009, 09:48:31 PM
It happened twice?  That sucks.  I'm still upset that capcom allowed this unlocking garbage.  Especially since it is tied to an account. 
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Akala on March 31, 2009, 09:57:55 PM
I'd be down for a PS3 tournament. Once the price drops, I'd be down for a 360 one as well. I think this is the most fun I've had with a fighter since the DC Soul Calibur.

Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Lafiel on March 31, 2009, 10:33:29 PM
Fought a seth player for the first time in this game online on ranked, seth must really suck, because this player had over 4000 bp and played seth pretty good, but i surprisingly beat him in the end?  :lol


 
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on March 31, 2009, 10:51:24 PM
Seth isn't the strongest character, but if you know how to use him, you can really whip some ass.  The one Seth I played in ranked dropped on me when I was going to win.   :-\
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: drohne on April 01, 2009, 01:11:27 AM
seth has really low hp and doesn't hit very hard, but he can just zone some characters all fucking day, and his ultra and super catch jumps from full screen. i've seen a couple decent ones in player matches
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on April 02, 2009, 05:46:14 AM
http://thebadloserswallofshame.blogspot.com/2009/04/lyte-edge-sends-raavin303-shoutout-to.html
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: archie4208 on April 02, 2009, 05:12:58 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7fZElVasl8

:rofl
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Rman on April 02, 2009, 07:19:33 PM
Man, this game has taken over my life.  So addictive.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: MoxManiac on April 03, 2009, 01:10:37 AM
I hit 5000 bp tonight. I'm really, really shocked i'm not running into disconnectors. Finished the night off against a good bison that went to 5th round, he narrowly beat me.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Robo on April 03, 2009, 01:54:25 AM
I played a fantastic Honda with over 9,500 bp today.  If he hadn't have been my very first match of the night, I think I could've taken the guy.  Curiously made very little use of the command throw though, even when it suited him to do so - mostly just did a lot of butt drops and a cr.mp -> hundred hand slap combo/string that could eat a ton of bar with chip damage.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Arbys Roast Beef Sandwich on April 03, 2009, 09:07:38 PM
Anybody playing the PS3 issue having the same issue as I am?

Seems right after the 2.70 update SFIV's framerate dipped to like sub-20fps throughout, even on the menu screens. It's really weird but I'm not sure if it's because of the update.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: archie4208 on April 04, 2009, 10:45:49 PM
GGs drohne.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: drohne on April 04, 2009, 11:18:00 PM
gg, though i can't believe how many times i was like 'derp derp i'll catch blanka with the fireball before he slides this time' :lol :'(
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Robo on April 06, 2009, 01:37:29 PM
I played a fantastic Honda with over 9,500 bp today.  If he hadn't have been my very first match of the night, I think I could've taken the guy.  Curiously made very little use of the command throw though, even when it suited him to do so - mostly just did a lot of butt drops and a cr.mp -> hundred hand slap combo/string that could eat a ton of bar with chip damage.

Honda players: do I suck or is this pretty tough to do consistently?  I am beginning to suspect that he may have been using turbo, but with a bp score that high, he might be just that good.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: archie4208 on April 17, 2009, 02:29:12 AM
http://www.andriasang.com/e/articles/2009/04/17/sfiv_updates_detailed/ - Championship patch details.

Still no lobbies :wtf and PS3 owners get replay VOTING while 360 owners can view inputs of the top players :rofl
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Robo on April 17, 2009, 02:33:24 AM
Quote
The 360-exclusive functionality allows players to download replays from a replay list to their harddisk or memory card for viewing even when not connected online. The Key Display functionality allows players to display key press information, which can be combined with slow motion replay functionality to study the timing of top players.

That's actually pretty damn awesome.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Rman on April 17, 2009, 04:18:53 AM
Exclusive downloadable content?  What in the world, Capcom?!
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on April 17, 2009, 07:46:55 PM
Are details given about the championship mode at least?  It would be nice if you could at least do player tournies and invite people on your friends list.

At least on 360 you can just do a party and invite each back and forth, and now with the chat system on PSN you can do the same.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on April 17, 2009, 08:02:14 PM
Ugh, anyhow, I came here to actually ask something (very very noobish and late). It's a bit embarrassing but what the hell.

In all the years I've played SF I've never used charge characters. I've never been able to pull the moves off naturally in a real fight (in-game real fight). I'm always wasting time standing there, waiting for the special move to charge. That's why I never understood the fascination and popularity of characters like Guile and Chun Li.

Now I know that most players tend to input the charge while doing something else (right?) but I can't seem to do it myself :-\. So if someone, who's a Chun Li or Guile expert, can explain how I'd appreciate it.

(How ironic is it that I'm asking this around the same time Capcom announced that PS3 users won't get key inputs in replays? lol)

There's really nothing to explain in-depth.  You just have to get used to charging (which can be done when crouching or jumping too) back/down constantly, and it will get more natural for you.  Practice!  If you're having trouble getting the moves to come out, maybe you're just not charging long enough?  Count out loud "one one thousand, two one thousand" and then hit forward/up and the attack button.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on April 22, 2009, 02:19:50 AM
So I just had a fun little PSN message session with a 6000+ BP Ryu player that I gave a sound thrashing to.  He beat me the first round, but it was only because of some awful, awful lag.  It disappeared in second, and he went down like any flowchart player would; my guess is he's one of those BP cheaters making his way through the ranks, because there's no way someone with that much BP should suck that hard.

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3489/3464185531_0a1a340270_b.jpg)

I don't know why, but "lol i dont mad over nooby wins" made me laugh so hard.  It's like he made up a new meme or something.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Beezy on April 22, 2009, 02:23:36 AM
"u mad"  :lol

:bow lyte edge :bow2
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on April 22, 2009, 03:28:18 AM
"u mad" always works great to bait them into saying more stupid shit! 
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Robo on April 22, 2009, 06:27:27 PM
After all these years, bitches still crying about throws... smh.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on April 23, 2009, 02:22:27 AM
After all these years, bitches still crying about throws... smh.

Some things just never change.  If there's one thing dey hatin', dey hatin' on, it's throws and taunts.  Taunts alone seem to be a huge reason for player disconnects.   :lol

Did some player matches last night against a scrub player who bored me so much I switched to Dan to go against his flowchart Ken.  Even just jumping around kicking randomly and taunting, I still beat him every time.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: MCD on April 24, 2009, 08:15:15 AM
downloaded free "power up" addon then downloaded auto update.

and now i keep getting session creation failed and can't find anyone online via quick match.

360 am gimped.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Lafiel on April 24, 2009, 09:05:38 AM
http://www.andriasang.com/e/articles/2009/04/17/sfiv_updates_detailed/ - Championship patch details.

Still no lobbies :wtf and PS3 owners get replay VOTING while 360 owners can view inputs of the top players :rofl
I dont know why they didn't add youtube uploading for the PS3 version, WTF capcom. :(
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: MCD on April 24, 2009, 11:32:15 AM
working now.

and champion mode is kinda gay.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Rman on April 24, 2009, 06:45:10 PM
Nice.  I'm loving this mode.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on April 24, 2009, 06:55:15 PM
Is it just me or do player and ranked matches NOT show the percentage of disconnects.  It's just the Championship mode?  WTF Capcom?   :lol

I don't see the point of this mode they way they set it up, but whatever; I'll likely play that instead of ranked from now on in the hopes that it keeps rage quitters out. 

There's also an annoying slight pause now on the menu screen when selecting modes after this update.   :-\
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Beezy on April 28, 2009, 11:59:50 PM
I finally got the win 10 rank matches in a row achievement. Either I got a lot better with Dictator or all the really good people are playing championship mode. None of my fights felt easy though. I had to fight a few Blankas, Zangiefs, Akumas, and good (imo) Ryu players.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on April 29, 2009, 01:12:13 AM
Definitely better fights happening in championship mode.  It seems to have brought back a lot of the players who either quit playing online (due to the distinguished mentally-challenged players) or had just been playing player matches with their friends, I think.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: tiesto on April 29, 2009, 11:27:33 AM
I've actually been pulling off some charge character supers/ultras... my brother told me I should main Sakura after playing a bunch of matches against him, but she is too weak. I'm addicted to this game but still can't get the timing down as to when exactly to do a super/ultra.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Beezy on April 29, 2009, 11:32:33 AM
Charge character's supers and ultras are really simple to do. I can't really explain too well through text though...
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Robo on May 06, 2009, 03:32:24 PM
Definitely better fights happening in championship mode.  It seems to have brought back a lot of the players who either quit playing online (due to the distinguished mentally-challenged players) or had just been playing player matches with their friends, I think.

My brief experience with it last night was the exact opposite; lotta runaway Sagat, lotta Ken, lotta random nonsense.  3 rounds :yuck :yuck :yuck

The few games in Ranked that I played, however, were some of the best online matches I've played since the game came out.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: archie4208 on May 06, 2009, 03:37:55 PM
I've went back to Honda.  I was dying of boredom as Blanka. 
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on May 06, 2009, 09:30:22 PM
Definitely better fights happening in championship mode.  It seems to have brought back a lot of the players who either quit playing online (due to the distinguished mentally-challenged players) or had just been playing player matches with their friends, I think.

My brief experience with it last night was the exact opposite; lotta runaway Sagat, lotta Ken, lotta random nonsense.  3 rounds :yuck :yuck :yuck

The few games in Ranked that I played, however, were some of the best online matches I've played since the game came out.

If you just now started Championship, that's because all the good players are now in the next bracket up!  I'm still languishing in G3 hell myself.  Need less than 200 points and I'm in G2 where the better matches are (again).
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on May 08, 2009, 04:36:13 AM
What is up with the 360 version post-championship patch?  It takes like 20 seconds to save the fuckin' game after every online match!   :punch :punch :punch
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Robo on May 08, 2009, 08:05:49 PM
That's hyperbole, right?  I noticed it takes a little longer, but not anywhere near THAT long.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on May 08, 2009, 09:59:37 PM
No, I was getting literally 17-20 second saves every match!   :o

Cleared the cache and now it's back to normal!   :)
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: ch1nchilla on June 08, 2009, 01:37:20 AM
Please add me to the list. Xbox Live - ch1nchilla
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Bacchus7 on June 10, 2009, 04:27:12 AM
XBL: MuffMuzzle
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on June 10, 2009, 04:31:58 AM
What list, guys?   ???

Anyway, might as well ask again: Do we have enough members here interested in doing a tournament? 
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Bacchus7 on June 10, 2009, 06:00:05 AM
What list, guys?   ???

Anyway, might as well ask again: Do we have enough members here interested in doing a tournament? 

Ahh, I guess it needs some upkeep, but the list on the first page of this thread with everyone's info. I'd definitely be interested in a tournament.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: Enl on June 10, 2009, 06:18:07 AM
Anyway, might as well ask again: Do we have enough members here interested in doing a tournament? 

I'm up for one if it happens, but it might be best to do it before the next wave of fighters start coming out.
Title: Re: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~
Post by: bork on June 10, 2009, 02:29:31 PM
Ah, OK.  I went ahead and put you guys on there, but I didn't think anyone would even look at the OP anymore.   :lol

Maybe it's better to make a new thread about a potential tournament rather than use this one.