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General => The Superdeep Borehole => Topic started by: Rman on January 27, 2010, 12:21:22 PM

Title: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Rman on January 27, 2010, 12:21:22 PM
Curious to see what Apple has in store. 

Livefeed:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/27/live-from-the-apple-tablet-latest-creation-event/
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: archie4208 on January 27, 2010, 12:22:26 PM
What is the tablet supposed to do?  I've seen Mactards hype it up to the moon and I'm not sure why.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Human Snorenado on January 27, 2010, 12:30:44 PM
What is the tablet supposed to do?  I've seen Mactards hype it up to the moon and I'm not sure why.

IT GONNA SUCK YO DICK, MAN
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Rman on January 27, 2010, 12:31:00 PM
What is the tablet supposed to do?  I've seen Mactards hype it up to the moon and I'm not sure why.
No one knows yet.  The rumors are that is will have a unique user interface and be used a content delivery device for books, magazines, tv shows and movies.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Robo on January 27, 2010, 12:38:08 PM
What is the tablet supposed to do?  I've seen Mactards hype it up to the moon and I'm not sure why.

IT GONNA SUCK YO DICK, MAN

 :hyper
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Arbys Roast Beef Sandwich on January 27, 2010, 12:42:23 PM
- act as an iPhone, that means you would be able to call/ text from it just like from iPhone using the same SIM card. No need to carry an iPhone and your Apple Tablet at the same time.

:rofl
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: archie4208 on January 27, 2010, 12:48:16 PM
What is the tablet supposed to do?  I've seen Mactards hype it up to the moon and I'm not sure why.
No one knows yet.  The rumors are that is will have a unique user interface and be used a content delivery device for books, magazines, tv shows and movies.

So it is a souped up Kindle with multimedia playback?  Cool, I think.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Rman on January 27, 2010, 12:49:46 PM
What is the tablet supposed to do?  I've seen Mactards hype it up to the moon and I'm not sure why.
No one knows yet.  The rumors are that is will have a unique user interface and be used a content delivery device for books, magazines, tv shows and movies.

So it is a souped up Kindle with multimedia playback?  Cool, I think.
Too bad it will probably cost 3x as much as Kindle.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Human Snorenado on January 27, 2010, 12:50:17 PM
What is the tablet supposed to do?  I've seen Mactards hype it up to the moon and I'm not sure why.
No one knows yet.  The rumors are that is will have a unique user interface and be used a content delivery device for books, magazines, tv shows and movies.

So it is a souped up Kindle with multimedia playback?  Cool, I think.

Too bad it will probably cost 3x as much as Kindle.

BUT IT GONNA SUCK YO DICK!
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Flannel Boy on January 27, 2010, 12:50:58 PM
I'll take two.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on January 27, 2010, 12:53:57 PM
Headline:  Man from Winnipeg buys series of Apple dicksucking devices, all devices spontaneously brick themselves before use.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Brehvolution on January 27, 2010, 12:56:40 PM
Whatever it is, it will cost $2500
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 27, 2010, 12:57:59 PM
What is the tablet supposed to do? 

remove $800-1000 from your bank account
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Human Snorenado on January 27, 2010, 01:00:00 PM
What is the tablet supposed to do? 

remove $800-1000 from your bank account

And that's before you get started buying crap from the iBook store.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 27, 2010, 01:02:39 PM
i bet they gimp stanza (free ebook reader app which is compatible with just about every format and lets you load your own files) because of this
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 27, 2010, 01:08:44 PM
he just took a shot at netbooks

this tablet will be less powerful than a netbook
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 27, 2010, 01:10:50 PM
apparently it comes with its own convenient jobshead icon for mactards to nut on

(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/01/apple-creation-0100-rm-eng.jpg)
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Fragamemnon on January 27, 2010, 01:11:48 PM
Looks distinguished mentally-challenged, and will definitely be priced distinguished mentally-challenged.

Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on January 27, 2010, 01:12:21 PM
what's the dimensions?
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 27, 2010, 01:13:21 PM
actually i think it looks pretty cool for what i'd use it for (comics, ebooks, webrowsing), but he keeps saying "better than a laptop" so you know this thing is going to be stupidly expensive
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 27, 2010, 01:14:27 PM
Not widescreen :lol


that makes more sense for displaying ebooks and magazines
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Flannel Boy on January 27, 2010, 01:18:51 PM
Looks distinguished mentally-challenged, and will definitely be priced distinguished mentally-challenged.



.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: demi on January 27, 2010, 01:23:16 PM
Wow it's like an Onion article in real time
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 27, 2010, 01:23:41 PM
actually a glorified touch is what i'd kind of personally want just for reading and browsing, but not at a macbook price

hp slate will cost half as much and have a lot more functionality
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: demi on January 27, 2010, 01:25:06 PM
Guys you can play Farmville on it
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 27, 2010, 01:26:03 PM
i'm not interested in sales figures, i'm interested in functionality at a fair price
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: elektrikluv on January 27, 2010, 01:26:12 PM
actually a glorified touch is what i'd kind of personally want just for reading and browsing, but not at a macbook price

hp slate will cost half as much and have a lot more functionality

lol hate on the apple tablet as much as you like, but that is just a joke
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: cool breeze on January 27, 2010, 01:29:52 PM
I don't get it.  This is the size of a laptop or netbook without being able to do actual work on it.  If it's for quickly browsing the web or something, isn't that what the iphone is for? and for reading, it's not e-ink, so you won't have the clarity or battery life that those have.  I don't get the practical application for this.  Couldn't they just make an apple netbook with a swiveling screen?

well, it apparently has 10 (more like 4) hour battery life.  that's not bad. 
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 27, 2010, 01:30:56 PM
actually a glorified touch is what i'd kind of personally want just for reading and browsing, but not at a macbook price

hp slate will cost half as much and have a lot more functionality

lol hate on the apple tablet as much as you like, but that is just a joke

i'm not hating on apple, i have an ipod touch that i love

but hp slate runs windows 7 and is pretty much a handheld pc, you cannot deny that it will have more functionality and endless amounts of free software
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: cool breeze on January 27, 2010, 01:32:38 PM
One neat thing is that it can run all iphone/ipod touch apps at native res or full screen.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 27, 2010, 01:33:35 PM
i never got the e-ink thing, myself

i read off a computer screen several hours a day and don't get the eyestrain and headaches others claim to get
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Brehvolution on January 27, 2010, 01:33:46 PM
i'm not interested in sales figures, i'm interested in functionality at a fair price

I don't think Apple has that.
For what it's worth, I recently bought an 8GB iphone 3g for $99. I think that is a fair price.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Flannel Boy on January 27, 2010, 01:34:43 PM
i never got the e-ink thing, myself

i read off a computer screen several hours a day and don't get the eyestrain and headaches others claim to get

I can't read more than a few long paragraphs without eyestrain.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on January 27, 2010, 01:35:51 PM
Congratulations, Jobs, you've invented half a laptop!
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on January 27, 2010, 01:36:12 PM
i never got the e-ink thing, myself

i read off a computer screen several hours a day and don't get the eyestrain and headaches others claim to get

I can't read more than a few long paragraphs without eyestrain.

same.  Hate reading off a computer screen. 
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 27, 2010, 01:36:54 PM
i read off the touch i have, i just set the background to a lighter gray and turn the brightness down

it took a little while to get used to it, but it works fine for me now

Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on January 27, 2010, 01:38:10 PM
All the functionality of the iPhone, with none of the convenience! Apple iPadTM

"Netbooks don't do anything." Except run Windows 7, you fucking hack.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 27, 2010, 01:38:57 PM
Congratulations, Jobs, you've invented half a laptop!

half the laptop, twice the price

16-64 GB of storage, i'm calling $700 for the 16GB model
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: CajoleJuice on January 27, 2010, 01:39:51 PM
"A truly magical and revolutionary new product."
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on January 27, 2010, 01:39:59 PM
 :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: cool breeze on January 27, 2010, 01:40:02 PM
i never got the e-ink thing, myself

i read off a computer screen several hours a day and don't get the eyestrain and headaches others claim to get

It's part that and part how long the battery life is.  I mean, other than the Nook that gets drained faster for having an LCD screen, they last a long time.

It takes a long time for me to get eyestrain from reading off a computer screen, but having used e-ink devices before, I would much prefer to read on them both in short and long stretches.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 27, 2010, 01:41:26 PM
this thing will end up being my psp go, i just know it
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on January 27, 2010, 01:42:35 PM
They haven't mentioned 3G/data yet, have they? Just WiFi?
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 27, 2010, 01:43:44 PM
that's for iPad 2, can't blow the revolutionary and magical wad straight out of the gate

newspapers and magazines look really slick on it, embedded video
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 27, 2010, 01:46:35 PM
the paint program looks fun

now some ea dude is up showing need for speed shift, looks impressive
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: huckleberry on January 27, 2010, 01:48:56 PM
Wife wants one, so if it is cheap enough I will bite.


I just wish they would get past this iPad shit and move one to the rest of the show. 
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Fragamemnon on January 27, 2010, 01:49:06 PM
you know what's impressive? NFS shift on a god damn PC.

I want to see what acer/asus/lenovo come up with. Specifically, I'd like information regarding battery life while watching video.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Flannel Boy on January 27, 2010, 01:49:28 PM
bollywood gaming

(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/01/apple-creation-0291-rm-eng.jpg)
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: bachikarn on January 27, 2010, 01:50:16 PM
Mod on Gaf threatening poster for expressing his disappointment, lol
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on January 27, 2010, 01:50:55 PM
at last, a platform where I can play Need for Speed Shift! Because I didn't have enough places I could play it already
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 27, 2010, 01:51:13 PM
you know what's impressive? NFS shift on a god damn PC.
 

true, but for a blown up ipod touch it looks decent, xbox1 level with a few more effects
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: huckleberry on January 27, 2010, 01:52:10 PM
I'd like information regarding battery life while watching video.


battery life guaranteed to suck with video and gaming playback. 


**crosses fingers that I'm wrong**
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Rman on January 27, 2010, 01:52:48 PM
I'm a huge Macfag and I'm disappointed so far.  I'm content with my iPhone and notebook combo.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on January 27, 2010, 01:53:23 PM
"iBooks"? that about wraps it up for the Kindle app

also my interest
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: cool breeze on January 27, 2010, 01:53:48 PM
no flash? wow
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Fragamemnon on January 27, 2010, 01:54:11 PM
I'll say it now-I'll buy the first tablet that will let me watch a 2 hour starcraft proleague match without being tethered to a power cable. I long for a winter late night of cocoa+snuggie+korean SC without wires.

omg no flash?  :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 27, 2010, 01:54:30 PM
it's about what i wanted/expected out of it, a big nice handheld screen to read comics/web browse on while lying on the couch, play a game or two, maybe occasionally watch a video when i am out and about

specs-wise it seems fine to me, the disappointment will come with the rectum-bursting price tag
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Flannel Boy on January 27, 2010, 01:55:38 PM
omg no flash?  :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
Apple Fanboy: Flash sucks (The grapes are sour; I don't want to eat them).
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: huckleberry on January 27, 2010, 01:56:04 PM
I am waiting on the price tag too.  The longer this douche talks the higher the price gets.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on January 27, 2010, 01:56:12 PM
Eel, I'm honestly not seeing anything this does my netbook doesn't do nearly as well. I mean, you could say the same thing about the iPhone, but that has the size and device ubiquity working for it. This, I'd rather just carry around my netbook. There's no Category Killer app for this.

Get Marvel/DC out to announce iComics and I'll change my tune
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: TripleA on January 27, 2010, 01:56:58 PM
Have they unveiled the revolutionary and magical device yet?
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: brob on January 27, 2010, 01:58:24 PM
Wasn't there some leaked picture of a microsoft tablet around the time the rumor of this apple thingy started to flow out? That microsoft thing looked ten times as awesome.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on January 27, 2010, 01:58:46 PM
You can change the font.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: cool breeze on January 27, 2010, 01:59:05 PM
the screen is supposed to be ips, which is kinda nice.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on January 27, 2010, 02:00:18 PM
You can change the font.

Research into this revolutionary feature increased the cost by $100.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 27, 2010, 02:01:07 PM
Eel, I'm honestly not seeing anything this does my netbook doesn't do nearly as well. I mean, you could say the same thing about the iPhone, but that has the size and device ubiquity working for it. This, I'd rather just carry around my netbook. There's no Category Killer app for this.

Get Marvel/DC out to announce iComics and I'll change my tune


it's awkward holding a netbook on the couch and trying to read comics on cdisplay, especially if you turn it on the side to see the full page

load this thing up with comiczeal or comic reader mobi and it would be awesome

i like my touch, but i hardly ever leave the house with it, so size isn't much of an issue with me

as i have said, though, i'm going with whatever is cheapest and suits my basic needs best - which automatically excludes this
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on January 27, 2010, 02:02:31 PM
(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/01/apple-creation-0331-rm-eng.jpg)

Giraffe-based text wrap, HP Slate owned
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: TripleA on January 27, 2010, 02:02:46 PM
I was 100% I had seen the iBook store interface before

(http://img.zamwi.com/Delicious-Library.png)

(http://geeks-have-feelings-too.net/contents/images/delicious-library.jpg)

Interesting.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Fragamemnon on January 27, 2010, 02:03:38 PM
the screen is supposed to be ips, which is kinda nice.

that is really nice. One thing I'll never slag apple on is their use of IPS displays in so many products, such better tech than TN for a lot of applications.

Fonts? TVC's zen garden of apple products will be getting a new addition soon!
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 27, 2010, 02:04:45 PM
maybe he'll give me this one when he gets the new model next year
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 27, 2010, 02:05:47 PM
c'mon, get to the fucking gasp-inducing price already so i can go back to work
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on January 27, 2010, 02:06:19 PM
Let's start an over/under pricing pool

My guess is $599 with 2-year AT&T/Verizon contract, $799 without.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Diunx on January 27, 2010, 02:06:53 PM
lol, the sad thing is that fucking macfags will buy millions of these things.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: demi on January 27, 2010, 02:07:47 PM
FARMVILLE HOLY SHIT
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Fragamemnon on January 27, 2010, 02:09:30 PM
$699 no contract, $499 with contract.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on January 27, 2010, 02:09:37 PM
From the Engadget live blog:

Quote
11:09AM Interesting. A data entry keyboard just for entering info into a spreadsheet.

(http://ihasahotdog.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/funny-dog-pictures-using-word.jpg)
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: huckleberry on January 27, 2010, 02:11:25 PM
$699 no contract, $499 with contract.

I could actually deal with this price on no contract....I am waiting for the 999 price tag though.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Brehvolution on January 27, 2010, 02:12:27 PM
$1299 and your pinky toe is my guess.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: TripleA on January 27, 2010, 02:12:44 PM
lol, the sad thing is that fucking macfags will buy millions of these things.

Just like they did with AppleTv . . .

I think even the most hardcore Apple fanboy is shaking his head in disappointment at this point. It's literally an iPod Touch XL.

Now we wait for price. I'll throw a wild prediction; $299, $349  :-[
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 27, 2010, 02:13:14 PM
models with and without 3g

without 3G - $600 for the 16 GB version is my guess

with 3G - $800 for the 32 GB version without a contract is my guess
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: huckleberry on January 27, 2010, 02:13:48 PM
Those subscription prices with no contracts is kinda nice though.

Me likey.


Now let me purchase an iphone without a contract.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on January 27, 2010, 02:14:49 PM
models with and without 3g

without 3G - $600 for the 16 GB version is my guess

with 3G - $800 for the 32 GB version without a contract is my guess

/agree
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 27, 2010, 02:15:53 PM
so is there no camera or did i miss that part
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: huckleberry on January 27, 2010, 02:16:33 PM
499? SOLD!!!


No fucking way...



-even with the 3G 130 upcharge its not bad.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 27, 2010, 02:16:59 PM
$500

fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

how much can i get for a like-new 32GB touch on ebay
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: TripleA on January 27, 2010, 02:18:07 PM
They have 6 models  :lol :lol :lol

Well it looks like Apple have successfully killed the iPad  :D
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on January 27, 2010, 02:18:13 PM
(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/01/apple-creation-0378-rm-eng.jpg)

I wonder if they made that awesome pricing matrix in iWork
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on January 27, 2010, 02:19:54 PM
(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/01/apple-creation-0383-rm-eng.jpg)

spoiler (click to show/hide)
(http://technology.automated.it/wp-content/uploads/HLIC/6afd0061a1a1f29ebf9bd7563873bba4.jpg)
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Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 27, 2010, 02:20:21 PM
well i guess i am selling my ipod touch

spoiler (click to show/hide)
and maybe the wii :teehee
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Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Fragamemnon on January 27, 2010, 02:20:29 PM
Digging the price point on the low-end one because it'll make the Acer/Asus/Lenovo products even cheaper.  :D
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: elektrikluv on January 27, 2010, 02:20:37 PM
3G isn't important because all the good stuff on the tablet is downloadable content like ebooks, magazines, games etc. Pretty decent pricing.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: CajoleJuice on January 27, 2010, 02:22:19 PM
3G isn't important because all the good stuff on the tablet is downloadable content like ebooks, magazines, games etc. Pretty decent pricing.

MLB AT BAT
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: ManaByte on January 27, 2010, 02:23:24 PM
3G isn't important because all the good stuff on the tablet is downloadable content like ebooks, magazines, games etc. Pretty decent pricing.

Except that AT&T won't allow you to download anything higher than 10MB over 3g. Most good games are way more than 10MB.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: ManaByte on January 27, 2010, 02:24:08 PM
Guess it does not have a camera or they would have mentioned it.
Whoops.

Can I just pop the SIM card out of my iPhone and slap it in here?
Or would I have to get another one from Softbank?

Please explain how you can pop ANY component out of an iPhone?
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on January 27, 2010, 02:24:41 PM
So is this the most disappointing tech announcement since Project Ginger (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/project-ginger-its-hailed-as-a-lifechanging-invention-but-what-is-it-701532.html)* or what?

spoiler (click to show/hide)
*the Segway :teehee
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Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: drew on January 27, 2010, 02:26:10 PM
$1299 and your pinky toe is my guess.

i might have a pinky toe or two to barter with soon anyway :-\
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 27, 2010, 02:27:45 PM
it would be a downgrade in storage space, but i have 22 GB of space left on my 32 GB touch as it is, even with a crapload of apps/podcasts/music

and the specs are higher otherwise

i may have to get this
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: demi on January 27, 2010, 02:30:09 PM
This thread is like an Onion article in real time
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: huckleberry on January 27, 2010, 02:30:23 PM
fuck. For 500 bucks I will get one for myself.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on January 27, 2010, 02:31:08 PM
Eel, I'd wait and see what Win 7 tablet options there are first
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 27, 2010, 02:32:40 PM
oh, i will, interested in seeing what the hp slate has to offer up
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: huckleberry on January 27, 2010, 02:34:07 PM
OK, where's my new iPhone and MBP? I waited 90 mins for nothing? :'(

No i5 and i7 MBP is pure fail.

Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on January 27, 2010, 02:36:12 PM
Quote
"[The Apple iPad] is a historic, mass-market appliance that fundamentally changes society in the way the printing press did."
                 /
(http://i47.tinypic.com/1z6zebp.jpg)
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: demi on January 27, 2010, 02:37:33 PM
IMAGINE ALL THE APPS YOU CAN MAKE FOR THIS

SHIT IMA MAKE A DJ APP, ITS LIKE UR A REAL DJ
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: CHOW CHOW on January 27, 2010, 02:38:33 PM
it's as if Apple saw the booming e-reader market and just whipped this thing up in a matter of months.

i remember about a year ago Jobs or one of the other Apple execs said how e-readers just weren't gonna be popular enough for Apple to make one because "people don't read books anymore".

this is half-assed hipster garb.  absolutely disgusting
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Eric P on January 27, 2010, 02:45:31 PM
i like it

it does what i would want it to do, but it does it at a price point i'm not prepared to pay for what i would actually use it for
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: CajoleJuice on January 27, 2010, 03:03:31 PM
(http://somewhatmanlynerd.com/pics/ipadterriblephotoshop.jpg)
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Dickie Dee on January 27, 2010, 03:18:57 PM
Dunno, an upsized iPod touch is pretty overwhelming, but otherwise there's so many things that just can't be done with an iPod's current form factor that I could imagine me using the shit out of it at some point.

Price is less Apple Rape Force than I expected.

I have no opinion about it one way or the other which might just be Apple's worst case scenario.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Raban on January 27, 2010, 03:39:55 PM
Meh. Square screen for a device that's supposed to be media-friendly is lol.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Arbys Roast Beef Sandwich on January 27, 2010, 03:41:36 PM
Yeah, the price is alright considering that the Android tablets will be running , I dunno, $300-400?

Still have no use for these things though, :heart my iPod Touch + my netbook*

spoiler (click to show/hide)
* - Running full Mac OS X :pirate :tophat :brandnew
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Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Raban on January 27, 2010, 03:54:18 PM
It doesn't have multitasking, which has been my personal most requested feature, so it's a bit disappointing.

The upside is that it's running 3.2 and not 4.0 like the leak suggested; the original leak was saying that the OS 4.0 would feature multitasking, video conferencing and a few other neat features.

Going by engadget's hands-on, the speed of the OS is something to marvel at, everything is super smooth: zooming maps, starting apps, scrolling, etc.

I hate how much I want one, I feel so dirty :(

Engadget is super-duper Apple slanted. I'd scour other reviews/hands-on articles before making a final decision.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: drew on January 27, 2010, 03:55:45 PM
wtf is this shit
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Raban on January 27, 2010, 03:56:25 PM
wtf is this shit

 :greenshinobi
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Arbys Roast Beef Sandwich on January 27, 2010, 03:57:55 PM
- act as an iPhone, that means you would be able to call/ text from it just like from iPhone using the same SIM card. No need to carry an iPhone and your Apple Tablet at the same time.

:rofl

Who is laughing now, fool?

Naww bro, I thought the concept of being able or even WANTING to call from a 10" device was ridic.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on January 27, 2010, 03:59:23 PM
I bet this'll be reasonably successful.  It'll draw the Apple cultists now, and some decent enough sized fraction of everyone else in a year or two, when the price drops.  lolol@hype though.

I expect Windows-based tablet PCs / convertible netbooks to start catching on over the next couple years as well.  Probably more than this does, actually.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: drew on January 27, 2010, 04:01:45 PM
watching the apple.com video

crazy eyes ahoy
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on January 27, 2010, 04:18:23 PM
EIGHT HUNDRED TWENTY NINE US DOLLARS
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 27, 2010, 04:18:37 PM
i'd imagine it will be unofficially multitasking shortly after release
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on January 27, 2010, 04:19:18 PM
Apple N2wton
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 27, 2010, 04:21:41 PM
1024x768?

i'm out
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 27, 2010, 04:23:00 PM
wait until geohot gets hold of it, you'll be backgrounding in no time
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on January 27, 2010, 04:23:54 PM
Does it at least support TSRs?
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 27, 2010, 04:25:48 PM
i will say that everyone complaining about the weight around the net is a giant limpwristed pussy, though
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Raban on January 27, 2010, 04:27:50 PM
BUT DOES IT RUN CRYSIS

ONLY THROUGH THE EXCELLENT SERVICE ONLIVE PROVIDES
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 27, 2010, 04:29:10 PM
I don't get it.   Like, what is this practical for?
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Beezy on January 27, 2010, 04:31:18 PM
No multitasking, no flash? Android phones are getting flash this spring. This thing is a fucking joke.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 27, 2010, 04:33:51 PM
i hold my netbook on the couch just fine and it weighs more

i've held hardcover books that weigh more, and read for hours

to be fair, i paint for a living, so i have pretty strong wrists and arms

but 1.5 pounds isn't really heavy at all

also people could, you know, rest it on their laps if their noodlearms started quivering from that 1.5 lb burden
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 27, 2010, 04:36:26 PM
i'd imagine it will be unofficially multitasking shortly after release

It better, there is absolutely no excuse for it to NOT have it. With the iPhone they were using the limitation of the of tech and battery life as excuses, two issues that have been addressed here.

It's the MOST basic feature in any device dammit.

wait until geohot gets hold of it, you'll be backgrounding in no time

Have you seen the multitasking Cydia apps? they're friggin sleek.

i use backgrounder all the time to listen to streaming music while i'm reading

battery drains superfast, though
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Reb on January 27, 2010, 04:37:01 PM
So, how long until a competitor releases a product that's just as good (if not better, even) for less?

Like with the iPhone?
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on January 27, 2010, 04:40:24 PM
Serious questions:

1) Is there a reasonable way to carry this around with you that doesn't involve a case and a bag to carry the case.
2) Can you type on it standing up?

I'm thinking "No" and "No" and both of those are pretty killer oversights to me. I can't see anything I'd use this for besides reading comics in bed, which is pretty awesome but not $500 awesome.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 27, 2010, 04:47:18 PM
i don't really care about the typing, but 1024 x 768 is kinda the dealbreaker for me as a dedicated comic reading device

it'll probably fit in just about any netbook sleeve - honestly, none of these tablets are going to be superportable (except maybe that 5" dell one, but i don't really see the point in that)

the ibook/magazine/newspaper layouts and style do look pretty slick, though - i really like the textured pages

i use backgrounder all the time to listen to streaming music while i'm reading

battery drains superfast, though

Try "proswither" it's basically a sleek UI for backgrounder that can be activated by touch gestures to view all apps running in the background, it's inspired by the Pre iirc and it's free.

But yeah, battery drains pretty fast with all these types of apps.

ok, i'll give it a shot, thanks
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 27, 2010, 05:08:10 PM
that photo album looks pretty snazzy
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on January 27, 2010, 05:23:26 PM
I've never looked at photos in an album format in my life
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on January 27, 2010, 05:25:36 PM
http://www.theonion.com/content/news_briefs/frantic_steve_jobs_stays_up

Frantic Steve Jobs Stays Up All Night Designing Apple Tablet

CUPERTINO, CA—Claiming that he completely forgot about the much-hyped electronic device until the last minute, a frantic Steve Jobs reportedly stayed up all night Tuesday in a desperate effort to design Apple's new tablet computer. "Come on, Steve, just think—think, dammit—you're running out of time," the exhausted CEO said as he glued nine separate iPhones to the back of a plastic cafeteria tray. "Okay, yeah, this will work. This will definitely work. Just need to write 'tablet' on this little strip of masking tape here and I'm golden. Oh, come on, you piece of shit! Just stick already!" Middle-of-the-night sources reported that Jobs then began work on double-spacing his Keynote presentation and increasing the font size to make it appear longer.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on January 27, 2010, 05:26:19 PM
Wtf this is what we were all excited about ???

There were better Android/Tegra 2 tablets at CES! :lol
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 27, 2010, 05:31:22 PM
I've never looked at photos in an album format in my life

Photo apps in general are my least used used in any device, especially ones that aren't equipped with a camera.


and i have used and enjoyed them

different people, they like different things, who woulda thunk it
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on January 27, 2010, 05:33:27 PM
sure, I'm just saying, photos are a non-feature to me on par with the Stocks app
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Kestastrophe on January 27, 2010, 05:34:43 PM
I heard about this announcement on NPR during my commute home and got excited when they talked about the low price of $500. The interface even looks sluggish and a bit unresponsive in that video. I am disappoint
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 27, 2010, 05:39:10 PM
i'm not totally writing it off just yet, but i need a hands-on with the reader and a comic app

not caring for that curved back, it's gonna wobble all over the place when you lay it flat
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: GoofyGoober on January 27, 2010, 05:42:47 PM
I will wait to see what the next 60 days do for developers. The web is pretty flash centric I can't imagine surfing full time on this. I have my touch to tide me over now.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: pilonv1 on January 27, 2010, 05:44:24 PM
http://www.theonion.com/content/news_briefs/frantic_steve_jobs_stays_up

Frantic Steve Jobs Stays Up All Night Designing Apple Tablet

CUPERTINO, CA—Claiming that he completely forgot about the much-hyped electronic device until the last minute, a frantic Steve Jobs reportedly stayed up all night Tuesday in a desperate effort to design Apple's new tablet computer. "Come on, Steve, just think—think, dammit—you're running out of time," the exhausted CEO said as he glued nine separate iPhones to the back of a plastic cafeteria tray. "Okay, yeah, this will work. This will definitely work. Just need to write 'tablet' on this little strip of masking tape here and I'm golden. Oh, come on, you piece of shit! Just stick already!" Middle-of-the-night sources reported that Jobs then began work on double-spacing his Keynote presentation and increasing the font size to make it appear longer.

It's amusing when the onion has real stories every now and then. 1024x768? :lol
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: GoofyGoober on January 27, 2010, 05:50:55 PM
i'm not totally writing it off just yet, but i need a hands-on with the reader and a comic app

not caring for that curved back, it's gonna wobble all over the place when you lay it flat

Hopefully 3rd parties come up with a skin or silicon protector like the touch that makes the back flat.

Kosma, it's a big iPod Touch that has 3G capabilities. It won't do phone calls just data.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on January 27, 2010, 05:52:54 PM
So is this just a big Iphone?

Of course not.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
It's just a big iPod Touch. :teehee
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Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 27, 2010, 06:03:02 PM
It goes without saying that will only play the same media formats that the iPhone/touch plays, right? :-\

http://www.apple.com/ipad/specs/
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Rman on January 27, 2010, 06:04:24 PM
i'm not totally writing it off just yet, but i need a hands-on with the reader and a comic app

not caring for that curved back, it's gonna wobble all over the place when you lay it flat
Jobs get obsessed with things.  His current ones are no buttons and curves.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: ManaByte on January 27, 2010, 06:09:29 PM
No multitasking. FAIL

It's even running iPhone OS 3.2
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: ManaByte on January 27, 2010, 06:12:17 PM
Ok the book turning stuff is pretty cool.

The $499 may be worth it as an eBook reader.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: GoofyGoober on January 27, 2010, 06:16:46 PM
As an ebook reader it would be nice as it also has netbook like features. But as typical apple your locked into the built in storage. If you want to play around. The Sony is $200 cheaper, takes SD Cards, but has fewer features.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: ManaByte on January 27, 2010, 06:17:37 PM
Sony one is in black & white with no backlight.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 27, 2010, 06:21:28 PM
there's an sd card reader adapter (wtf) coming out for the ipad
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: elektrikluv on January 27, 2010, 06:27:31 PM
Ok the book turning stuff is pretty cool.

The $499 may be worth it as an eBook reader.

Yeah especially considering the 9.7 inch Kindle is $489 :/ The iPad seems like a good investment when you look at it that way.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: border on January 27, 2010, 06:51:59 PM
I surprised to see so many people whining about the resolution.  What resolution should it have been?  Most netbooks aren't that much better.

That said, it's hard not to be disappointed by this thing.  I wasn't hoping for a revolution, but "Here is a much bigger iPod touch" is pathetic.  Still no multitasking, still no Flash support, still no tabbed browsing, still no video-out.  It looks like this thing underwent some heavy compromises just so they could swing the $500 pricetag.

The promotional video is embarassing - it's almost hilarious to see employees swoon over things that the iPhone has done for 3 years.  OMG THE SCREEN RE-ORIENTS ITSELF IF YOU TURN IT!
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 27, 2010, 06:55:56 PM
as far as resolution, i'm just considering how a full comic page looks on a 1024 x600 netbook screen turned sideways
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: GoofyGoober on January 27, 2010, 06:57:44 PM
Sony one is in black & white with no backlight.

Excellent point, and as elektrikluv pointed out, almost the same price as the 9.7" Kindle.

I guess the wish list of supporting better and more video formats is all I could see wanting.

How bad would it look? So far the e-comics, only access I've had is on the touch and the PSP and it was a frame at a time.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Cormacaroni on January 27, 2010, 07:03:35 PM
I can see why it's disappointing to many after all the (non-Apple generated) hype but it looks pretty awesome to me. I will be nabbing a 64GB non-3G version most likely. If i never use it for anything other than comics, books and internet (better support this NBA league pass streaming format tho! But there is an iphone version in the US so should be ok), that's fine by me. That constitutes about 90% of my entertainment these days. Doubt I'll use it much for tv/video but who knows, depends how easy it is. I tend to want to use my iphone storage for music etc instead of video but with 64GB it becomes more appealing.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 27, 2010, 07:16:25 PM
the screen itself is going to be approximately 8" x 5" with a .75" border from my measurements

i just printed some comic pages at various pixel densities, all of them looked okay at the 8x5 size (yeah, yeah, print vs screen blah-blah-blah), maybe the 1024x768 won't be so bad

EDIT:  it's actually 7.75" x 5.82"
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: M3wThr33 on January 27, 2010, 07:18:32 PM
I can buy two netbooks for this price.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: GoofyGoober on January 27, 2010, 07:27:12 PM
I had forgotten all about the kindle app I download on my touch until I saw the comparison that Jin posted (thanks BTW).

Just looking for something for the wife. Her mother has a Sony reader. I thought it was pretty awesome compared to my Dad's kindle.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: cool breeze on January 27, 2010, 07:28:17 PM
The attract video makes it look pretty cool...if it's on mute.  The guy who walks you through it is like a real life apple fan, as in, tweaked out of his mind and spitting hyperbole.  I want nothing to do with that.

But yeah, the thing itself looks alright, just not for the price.  Not that the price is that bad.  It's a completely indulgent product without many practical applications, at least for me.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Cormacaroni on January 27, 2010, 07:43:58 PM
I can buy two netbooks for this price.

you are awesome at math
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Cormacaroni on January 27, 2010, 07:46:12 PM
thank Christ it's compatible with Kindle. Although the prospect of a price war on books between amazon/apple/google was appealing, it's also nice to know that we can use stuff we buy on Amazon. I still think even $10 for a new book is bullshit, given the almost nil cost to the publisher of the digital format. Bandwidth isn't even an issue, like with mp3.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Cormacaroni on January 27, 2010, 07:48:26 PM
the screen itself is going to be approximately 8" x 5" with a .75" border from my measurements

i just printed some comic pages at various pixel densities, all of them looked okay at the 8x5 size (yeah, yeah, print vs screen blah-blah-blah), maybe the 1024x768 won't be so bad

EDIT:  it's actually 7.75" x 5.82"

I regularly read comics on the iPhone, a 19'' PC monitor and a 46'' TV...they pretty much look great at any size, IMO. You either get more size or more sharpness. So long as the text is readable, you're golden. And pinch zoom and comic reader mobi take care of that.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 27, 2010, 07:53:21 PM
yeah, comics look fine on my touch/tv/pc, but i'd rather view the full page in one shot on a handheld, especially when it comes to will eisner-style layouts where the panel flow is important
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: Tablet or perhaps something else?
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 27, 2010, 08:15:55 PM
Reading through the thread now...

You guys suck in the rumour dept.

The Apple tablet will:

- work with 99.9% of current AppStore apps, no recoding necessary, just download or transfer from your iPhone and IT JUST WORKS in 10" fullscreen glory. <--- this is the killer bulletpoint that annihilates every other tablet out there
- act as an iPhone, that means you would be able to call/ text from it just like from iPhone using the same SIM card. No need to carry an iPhone and your Apple Tablet at the same time.
- have some kind of camera on the frontside, facing the owner for videoconferences etc.

HP Slate annihilated...

lol owned

what a piece of shit.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Rman on January 27, 2010, 08:33:13 PM
Well the first point is accurate.  Devs just need to update their apps for iPad compatibility.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: bork on January 27, 2010, 08:33:23 PM
Was this posted?  Some of the stuff the guy has issues with are stupid, but no flash?  No multitasking?  Restricted to the app store? Adaptors needed for everything, even USB?  No HDMI out?  Not even widescreen?  1024x768?  LOL.  It's iPhone XL.  

http://i.gizmodo.com/5458382/8-things-that-suck-about-the-ipad
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(http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/4/2010/01/500x_nothanksipad.jpg)
A lot of people are psyched about the iPad. Not me! My god, am I underwhelmed by it. It has some absolutely backbreaking failures that will make buying one the last thing I would want to do.

Big, Ugly Bezel
Have you seen the bezel on this thing?! It's huge! I know you don't want to accidentally input a command when your thumb is holding it, but come on.

No Multitasking
This is a backbreaker. If this is supposed to be a replacement for netbooks, how can it possibly not have multitasking? Are you saying I can't listen to Pandora while writing a document? I can't have my Twitter app open at the same time as my browser? I can't have AIM open at the same time as my email? Are you kidding me? This alone guarantees that I will not buy this product.

No Cameras
No front facing camera is one thing. But no back facing camera either? Why the hell not? I can't imagine what the downside was for including at least one camera. Could this thing not handle video iChat?

Touch Keyboard
So much for Apple revolutionizing tablet inputs; this is the same big, ugly touchscreen keyboard we've seen on other tablets, and unless you're lying on the couch with your knees propping it up, it'll be awkward to use.

No HDMI Out
Want to watch those nice HD videos you downloaded from iTunes on your TV? Too damned bad! If you were truly loyal, you'd just buy an AppleTV already.

The Name iPad
Get ready for Maxi pad jokes, and lots of 'em!

No Flash
No Flash is annoying but not a dealbreaker on the iPhone and iPod Touch. On something that's supposed to be closer to a netbook or laptop? It will leave huge, gaping holes in websites. I hope you don't care about streaming video! God knows not many casual internet users do. Oh wait, nevermind, they all do.

Adapters, Adapters, Adapters
So much for those smooth lines. If you want to plug anything into this, such as a digital camera, you need all sorts of ugly adapters. You need an adapter for USB for god's sake.

Update: Why stop at 8? Here are more things we are discovering that suck about the iPad.

It's Not Widescreen
Widescreen movies look lousy on this thing thanks to its 4:3 screen, according to Blam, who checked out some of Star Trek on one. It's like owning a 4:3 TV all over again!

Doesn't Support T-Mobile 3G
Sure, it's "unlocked." But it won't work on T-Mobile, and it uses microSIMs that literally no one else uses.

A Closed App Ecosystem
The iPad only runs apps from the App Store. The same App Store that is notorious for banning apps for no real reason, such as Google Voice. Sure, netbooks might not have touchscreens, but you can install whatever software you'd like on them. Want to run a different browser on your iPad? Too bad!

I certainly wouldn't buy the first version of this thing.  The next revision is sure to address some of these issues and have a camera.  Just watch.

Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: tiesto on January 27, 2010, 08:37:55 PM
Glad to see I'm not the only one just shrugging and not seeing what the big deal is. More overpriced, over-stylized junk from Apple.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 27, 2010, 08:44:41 PM
Well the first point is accurate.  Devs just need to update their apps for iPad compatibility.

Yea, i was laughing at the rest. I don't know why anyone would be amped for 320x480 apps on a 10 inch screen with no multitasking.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on January 27, 2010, 08:45:53 PM
Apple's stuff is usually overpriced, but the company always seems to debut a few neat features that separates its products from the competition (and justifies the price point differential in the eyes of some). I don't know how you could categorize the iPad announcement as anything but a failure, because this announcement comes on the heels of the tablet explosion at CES just a few weeks ago. And the stuff we saw there was not only sleeker and more powerful - but will likely be cheaper as well.

Apple has a head start because the iPad is already into production, but I can't see this as anything but a novelty gift for Apple enthusiasts when far superior tablets (open source, no less!) are on the horizon. I think Apple had the means and the capability to debut something that could replace the PC and laptop, but that award will go to somebody else (HP? Acer?).

Yeah, it's decent compared to the Kindle, but everyone has to realize that there are a dozen e-Readers hitting the market this year that plan to undercut that price.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: archie4208 on January 27, 2010, 08:47:10 PM
I hope the iPad forces Amazon to become more competitive with their Kindle pricing. 
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: brawndolicious on January 27, 2010, 08:47:20 PM
What does TVC think of this?  I think he was a big apple whore.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on January 27, 2010, 08:49:06 PM
I hope the iPad forces Amazon to become more competitive with their Kindle pricing. 

That was going to happen regardless of the iPad. The Nook, once it finds its footing, will challenge the Kindle. Not to mention the slew of e-ink readers that were at CES (I guess the company that provides e-ink technology is expanding) this year. Amazon's days are numbered at that price point.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Rman on January 27, 2010, 08:50:50 PM
I hope the iPad forces Amazon to become more competitive with their Kindle pricing. 
They just 3 price drops in one year.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 27, 2010, 08:51:01 PM
i just figure i already spent $300 on an ipod touch  - whereas this has around 3x the screen size, has a much faster processor, and will provide a much better reading experience for $200 more

i'll probably end up selling my ipod touch and some other bullshit so i can feel guilt-free about getting it
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 27, 2010, 08:52:40 PM
also, while i was a bit disappointed there was no camera introduced in the touch, i couldn't give a shit about a camera on a tablet (although i realize it is important to some)
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on January 27, 2010, 08:55:55 PM
i just figure i already spent $300 on an ipod touch  - whereas this has around 3x the screen size, has a much faster processor, and will provide a much better reading experience for $200 more

i'll probably end up selling my ipod touch and some other bullshit so i can feel guilt-free about getting it

not to be difficult, but could you really use the iPad as an iPod replacement? it plays MP3s, but it's not exactly portable.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on January 27, 2010, 08:55:59 PM
I just don't understand why you don't keep your Touch - which is far more portable - and grab one of the many Android/Tegra 2 tablets that will hit the market this year. Not to mention the Windows 7 tablets that are about to melt faces.

... because, really, while having a large iPod Touch might be nice in some situations, do you honestly plan on making it your primary MP3 player?
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 27, 2010, 09:00:52 PM
Android is more capable than iPhone OS and even it isn't enough for a netbook. Win7 tablet for the win.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: brob on January 27, 2010, 09:01:18 PM
I'm a bit surprised at the amount of people who are ready to jump on some day one kinda business. How long did it take for Apple to make the first gen iphone useless? Isn't that some rule in the apple fanboy rulebook; never buy testbed bullshit first iterations ?
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Cormacaroni on January 27, 2010, 09:02:05 PM
No doubt it will improve over time. no doubt there will be a million similar devices. I'm just glad the ball is finally rolling on this shit though.

No multitasking is blatantly a ploy to keep battery life up and crashes down. I'd rather live dangerously myself but I can see why they went that way.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on January 27, 2010, 09:03:41 PM
To be fair, we haven't really seen a lot of Android/Tegra 2 netbooks, but I like what I've seen from the tablets.

And Jinfash, I still think the iPhone is ridiculous and overpriced, especially since there are a slew of legitimate contenders in the market. The only thing Apple has going for it is The App Store, which is still too closed for my preference and will no longer be the only game in town within a year or two.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 27, 2010, 09:04:14 PM
i don't even use my touch as an mp3 player, really

i use that old 30GB zune prole gave me

i use the touch for games and apps and only occasionally for music or video - i still have 22GB free out of 32

i can count on one hand the number of times i have left the house with my ipod touch since i got it in september
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on January 27, 2010, 09:05:20 PM
I think you're trying to make a case to sell all your Apple products. Zune + Win 7 tablet future!
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 27, 2010, 09:06:29 PM
also, i doubt many (if any) of these other tablets will be under $500, unless they have extremely weak smartphone guts inside

even the crunchpad, which was supposed to come out for $200, is launching for $500 - and that's a web-only device
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on January 27, 2010, 09:10:39 PM
also, i doubt many (if any) of these other tablets will be under $500, unless they have extremely weak smartphone guts inside

even the crunchpad, which was supposed to come out for $200, is launching for $500 - and that's a web-only device

Eh, most of the manufacturers were waiting for Apple to set the price point, but Engadget said the Adam (Android/Tegra 2) could debut as low as $300. And again, the Tegra 2/ARM innards were playing 1080p video. There were a dozen or so of them at CES.

They also allow for multitasking, Android is open source, many will be GSM ready, etc.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 27, 2010, 09:11:40 PM
I'm a bit surprised at the amount of people who are ready to jump on some day one kinda business. How long did it take for Apple to make the first gen iphone useless? Isn't that some rule in the apple fanboy rulebook; never buy testbed bullshit first iterations ?

well, you can always wait on anything and the next iteration will almost always be a little better
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Cormacaroni on January 27, 2010, 09:14:53 PM
I'm a bit surprised at the amount of people who are ready to jump on some day one kinda business. How long did it take for Apple to make the first gen iphone useless? Isn't that some rule in the apple fanboy rulebook; never buy testbed bullshit first iterations ?

well, you can always wait on anything and the next iteration will almost always be a little better


...and plenty of people have been using their iPhone for years thinking 'this is awesome but i'd like the screen to be just a bit bigger...' like 10x a day. There is pent-up demand for this thing for sure

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Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 27, 2010, 09:15:27 PM
considering a 10" Pixel Qi screen will sell for around $200 by itself I highly doubt the Adam is going to launch at $300
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: CajoleJuice on January 27, 2010, 09:17:14 PM
The only Apple products I own were given to me. :bow me
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: brob on January 27, 2010, 09:18:26 PM
I'm a bit surprised at the amount of people who are ready to jump on some day one kinda business. How long did it take for Apple to make the first gen iphone useless? Isn't that some rule in the apple fanboy rulebook; never buy testbed bullshit first iterations ?

well, you can always wait on anything and the next iteration will almost always be a little better
derp derp obviously, but in this case it feels like they deliberately left shit out because they didn't bother making it work properly, spend too much money on R&D and have easy go-to features to add in later iterations. No camera, 10 hour battery life, no multi-task? ffs...  :duh
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on January 27, 2010, 09:19:12 PM
I doubt that MSI, Asus, Notion Ink, Compal, Quanta, HTC, etc. are going to be undercut by Apple. And if they are, it won't be by much. The word from the CES floor was that most of the devices would be in the $300 - $700 range (with $700 being the ceiling) and that the manufacturers were waiting for iPad pricing before making definitive pricing plans. I really doubt that companies were sitting on the pricing because they thought they'd be more expensive than Apple.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 27, 2010, 09:28:57 PM
we'll see, but that sounds like the sort of smoke being blown last year about all those $250 ION netbooks that were supposed to come out

i just don't think a 10" capacitive touchscreen tablet running Windows 7 with high specs is gonna hit for less than $500

if it does and is better, fine, i can always dump the iPad for close to what i paid and call it a rental fee

Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Cormacaroni on January 27, 2010, 09:30:45 PM
Will all those things have a nice UI though? The iPhone OS is so comfortable to me now, I can't be assed with anything clunky programmed by Asus. Android, I'd be prepared to use. Windows mobile etc :yuck
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on January 27, 2010, 09:40:10 PM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BnLbv6QYcA[/youtube]

:teehee
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 27, 2010, 09:43:15 PM
that and the sony one are my favorite onion videos
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Cormacaroni on January 27, 2010, 09:52:57 PM
Yeah, my dependency on my phone has rendered me utterly incapable of navigating Windows!

Forgive me for not wanting the ability to edit the registry on the train.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 27, 2010, 10:24:16 PM
Or use Pandora while reading an IM
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Cormacaroni on January 27, 2010, 10:42:57 PM
Or use Pandora while reading an IM

Already commented on that - sorry if you can only concentrate on one post at a time.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 27, 2010, 10:56:24 PM
I have real phones with real capability and they don't crash, and battery life isn't appreciably different. Cop out. I also have a netbook that is infinitely more capable.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: ManaByte on January 27, 2010, 10:57:15 PM
This thing could really kill the Kindle,Nook, and Reader market. $4.99-$14.99 for most books with a full color and back-lit screen. It's $200 more than a Kindle, but it's like comparing a launch GameBoy to a PSP. As long as they can get the content in iBooks, it'll do for eBooks what iTunes/iPod did for music.

I know people who want to buy a eBook reader, but the lack of a back light kills it. This solves that.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Cormacaroni on January 27, 2010, 10:58:38 PM
you are so amazing

:bow AdmiralViscen :bow2

:bow owners of netbooks :bow2
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on January 27, 2010, 11:11:44 PM
People will still line up for this thing.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Cormacaroni on January 28, 2010, 12:13:40 AM
Yeah. 1st gen or not. If they had charged $1,000 as was rumored, they'd definitely have fallen into the trap of not being as useful as a notebook. But for a luxury Apple product, $500 isn't that much to get your feet wet. There were iPods that cost almost that much.

So my buddy from Nvidia has a prototype of a Tegra2 tablet in the office which is running Unreal Engine 3 stuff. iPad will definitely have some stiff competition.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Cormacaroni on January 28, 2010, 12:15:08 AM
Also, over lunch, we dreamed up some fun uses for the iPad. Imagine playing tabletop D&D with animated pieces on the tablet, while players did all their dice rolls and inventory stuff etc on an iPhone app. That could really liven up a night at the pub!
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: BlueTsunami on January 28, 2010, 12:19:58 AM
Man, I'm now just reading this thread and iPad still sounds like a joke name after finishing it
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Cormacaroni on January 28, 2010, 12:30:32 AM
Also, over lunch, we dreamed up some fun uses for the iPad. Imagine playing tabletop D&D with animated pieces on the tablet, while players did all their dice rolls and inventory stuff etc on an iPhone app. That could really liven up a night at the pub!

Oh man those would definitely be some wild times!  Too much excitement for one bar, perhaps!

You're right - I'll stick to dominoes. You young 'uns run wild with your whores and your cocaine, see if i care
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Barry Egan on January 28, 2010, 12:37:25 AM
Man, I'm now just reading this thread and iPad still sounds like a joke name after finishing it

5 years earlier...

[youtube=560,345]lsjU0K8QPhs[/youtube]

Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on January 28, 2010, 01:35:08 AM
I have real phones with real capability and they don't crash, and battery life isn't appreciably different. Cop out. I also have a netbook that is infinitely more capable.

Android :rock

Will wait for Android tablet with Tegra 2 at same price. MSI going to bring the heat. I'll be able to multitask, browse Flash pages (Hulu!), watch 1080p video (and output to my television) and enjoy an open source environment.

Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: CajoleJuice on January 28, 2010, 01:39:29 AM
Android with Tegra 2 omgggggg
Title: Not my joke
Post by: Dickie Dee on January 28, 2010, 02:39:22 AM
Introducing the iPad Nano:

(http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/ipod-touch-1.jpg)

:teehee
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Beezy on January 28, 2010, 02:44:21 AM
 :lol
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Cormacaroni on January 28, 2010, 02:50:22 AM
:rofl
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Cormacaroni on January 28, 2010, 04:43:00 AM
guess that means no iPad for you Borys  ::)

to go along with your no gaming PC, your no HD console and your no HDTV :teehee
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Kestastrophe on January 28, 2010, 07:09:11 AM
I'm pretty lukewarm to cold on this announcement, but if they showed some RTS being played on it I know my opinion would change.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Cormacaroni on January 28, 2010, 07:34:27 AM
As much as they hype their own products, Apple rarely predicts what really end up being the killer apps for their products. They didn't guess that podcasts would be a huge source of free content for their iPods, they tried to stop developers from making apps for the iphone...and they really didn't show off anything innovative in the way of hardware, software or content for the iPad either.

Nevertheless, because it will sell shitloads, all that good stuff will probably come to it anyway.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: ManaByte on January 28, 2010, 07:52:49 AM
I'm pretty lukewarm to cold on this announcement, but if they showed some RTS being played on it I know my opinion would change.

You can play C&C Red Alert on it out of the box. Just download it from the Ap Store.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: ManaByte on January 28, 2010, 07:56:07 AM
they tried to stop developers from making apps for the iphone...

After all the malware that infects the Andriod Store (a lot will brick your phone), Apple is right to approve every Ap in Ap Store.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Cormacaroni on January 28, 2010, 08:17:40 AM
yeah, i was just fishing there, borys. you never know your luck.

I think the entire world feels they have to have an opinion on the iPad today, because even if they don't buy into the hype, they feel they have to prove that they HAVEN'T. Whether they even have any kind of legitimate interest in it as a product in the first place. It's like Ferrari unveiling a new model and the entire internet chiming in. "It only has two seats lol!", "i'll stick to my Civic with it's awesome MPG" etc

Obviously the price tags don't compare but just because you heard about it doesn't mean it's for you, you know?
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 28, 2010, 08:19:48 AM
they tried to stop developers from making apps for the iphone...

After all the malware that infects the Andriod Store (a lot will brick your phone), Apple is right to approve every Ap in Ap Store.

A lot? Brick?
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: cool breeze on January 28, 2010, 08:23:12 AM
Is it true that the 3G models price is to cover the plan as well? I saw someone mention that the reason it's expensive is because, like the Kindle, it is online access without a data plan.  If it really is $150 extra for 3G internet on the device without needing to pay an additional fee to AT&T or something, that would be pretty cool.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 28, 2010, 08:25:29 AM
With the burden existing iPhone users put on AT&Ts network while putting $100 a month into it, I really doubt AT&T is going to let iPad users do whatever they want for a one-shot $130 premium.

I don't think the regular models have a sim card slot at all, do they? You're paying to have the capability, then it's $15/mo for 250MB or $30 for 5GB.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Cormacaroni on January 28, 2010, 08:37:34 AM
I guess we didn't live in a Facebook world where people's moms are commenting on the thing back then. I'm used to geeks talking about hardware. Now it's everyone I know.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: GilloD on January 28, 2010, 09:14:55 AM
Am I the only person dying to nab this? My wife and I don't own a TV. We either watch most of our TV on a laptop or on an iPod. We also do a lot of our newspaper reading on iPods and reading from PAPER BOOKS, which I love, but they're fucking expensive in Korea.

This thing would rock my world. I could do all my reading on it and just let i use one of the laptops as a media server. I'd love to have one as a digital media device. There was a big piece on the Korean news about how many of the parts are of Korean design or sourcing. Which is hilarious given that they were doing everything in their power to block the iPhone for years and years.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Beezy on January 28, 2010, 09:19:29 AM
they tried to stop developers from making apps for the iphone...

After all the malware that infects the Andriod Store (a lot will brick your phone), Apple is right to approve every Ap in Ap Store.
I've never heard anything about this and every app on the Android store has consumer ratings on their page. You'd have to be dumb to download something with a bunch of bad comments and low ratings.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 28, 2010, 09:25:12 AM
I don't think the regular models have a sim card slot at all, do they?

I don't think they have, which could explain why they're .03 pounds lighter lol.

And for the 3G models, the $30 is for the unlimited plan, not 5GB (right?).

There is no such thing as unlimited in the american wireless industry
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on January 28, 2010, 09:59:51 AM
Quote
I've grown incredibly cynical of the tech world lately because of that trend. Most savvy journalists are usually the first to dismiss a new product but they're also always the first in line to pick one up. Hypocrisy is pretty common in that sector and makes it hard to take anything a tech pundit says seriously anymore.

The tech press is completely worthless.  Somehow I've become addicted to reading them though  :-\
Title: Re: Not my joke
Post by: Brehvolution on January 28, 2010, 10:11:45 AM
Introducing the iPad Nano:

[img]http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/ipod-touch-1.jpg[img]

:teehee
Homerun  :lol
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: GoofyGoober on January 28, 2010, 11:10:29 AM
I don't think the regular models have a sim card slot at all, do they?

I don't think they have, which could explain why they're .03 pounds lighter lol.

And for the 3G models, the $30 is for the unlimited plan, not 5GB (right?).

The 5GB or was it 250MB plan was $14.99. Unlimited was $29.99.

I think it's cheap because it's just data. Locked to an iPad won't like have the user streaming porn 24/7 and using TB of bandwidth.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: cool breeze on January 28, 2010, 11:19:47 AM
Am I the only person dying to nab this? My wife and I don't own a TV. We either watch most of our TV on a laptop or on an iPod. We also do a lot of our newspaper reading on iPods and reading from PAPER BOOKS, which I love, but they're fucking expensive in Korea.

This thing would rock my world. I could do all my reading on it and just let i use one of the laptops as a media server. I'd love to have one as a digital media device. There was a big piece on the Korean news about how many of the parts are of Korean design or sourcing. Which is hilarious given that they were doing everything in their power to block the iPhone for years and years.

To be perfectly honest, if I didn't just buy a netbook (literally last week, and what I'm typing on now) I would be a lot more interested in this.  A netbook is better for the school work I need it for but a tablet is still nice.  I still think a good netbook with a swivel screen would be just as fine, or whenever they have flexible screens go mainstream, have that solution.  The touch screen keyboard doesn't seem bad except that it is completely flat, meaning you look directly down at it while typing; that hurts my neck and back just thinking about typing anything longer than a web page.

I don't see buying this thing until a couple revisions from now.  It doesn't seem that bad despite some hilarious omissions (multitasking, flash); I just don't have a practical use for it.  It's certainly not as bad as the Macbook Air or that ipod clip thing that only lets you shuffle music.

also, just a random anecdote, but judging from an earlier class, people think this is a reader device like the Kindle.  I don't think the average person knows or cares about e-ink.  There were also ~100 people including the professor who seemed to be jazzed about this thing.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on January 28, 2010, 11:27:51 AM
All it is pretty much a reader device. Without multitasking or Flash support, it's not even a smartphone replacement. I'm saddened to see Comacaroni is such an Apple lemming. This isn't even a cool product like the iPhone or a sexy MacBook.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: elektrikluv on January 28, 2010, 12:01:10 PM
The only Apple products I own were given to me. :bow me

Well done! *standing ovation* :bow :bow would you like a gold star too?
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 28, 2010, 12:03:14 PM
Its not even a new product. Its an old product, bigger.

And there is no way data on att will be truly unlimited
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Groogrux on January 28, 2010, 01:07:48 PM
They're proving how out of touch they really are with consumers by (A) not developing anything truly new, (B) going back to AT&T and their record of horrible service.

I'd rather own a damn Kindle than one of those pieces of garbage.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: tehjaybo on January 28, 2010, 01:15:40 PM
Name still sounds like someone with a speech impediment saying iPod.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Powerslave on January 28, 2010, 01:37:46 PM
I'm gonna make a gadget and name it uMad.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Brehvolution on January 28, 2010, 02:02:03 PM
Stolen(http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/comment/4/2010/01/5b00d8520eee5ebd0dd0b18d160962ff/original.jpg)
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: CajoleJuice on January 28, 2010, 02:26:25 PM
The only Apple products I own were given to me. :bow me

Well done! *standing ovation* :bow :bow would you like a gold star too?

Someone likes Apple.  :teehee
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Raban on January 28, 2010, 02:37:06 PM
Name still sounds like someone with a speech impediment saying iPod.

Like Matt Damon in The Departed?
(http://i47.tinypic.com/2ikf59x.jpg)

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I suck at photoshop :teehee
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Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: archie4208 on January 28, 2010, 03:27:27 PM
(http://i47.tinypic.com/25rfgh2.png)

:teehee
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: T-Short on January 28, 2010, 03:28:17 PM
Wouldn't Brits say iPod and iPad the same way?  Won't that get confusing?

what.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on January 28, 2010, 03:37:26 PM
Wouldn't Brits say iPod and iPad the same way?  Won't that get confusing?

what.

Am I wrong? I'm American; what do I know?

you ... you're on your own on this one
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Raban on January 28, 2010, 03:46:03 PM
(http://i47.tinypic.com/25rfgh2.png)

:teehee

:teehee
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Brehvolution on January 28, 2010, 04:08:13 PM
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:hurr
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Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: drew on January 28, 2010, 04:19:04 PM
im guessing 5 hours claimed battery life, 29 minutes actual
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Tieno on January 28, 2010, 04:34:04 PM
Lots of Apple envy in this thread.
You wish you could be smug like Apple fans.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: drew on January 28, 2010, 04:35:24 PM
im running windows xp on a macbook pro :smug
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Tieno on January 28, 2010, 04:54:39 PM
im running windows xp on a macbook pro :smug
Me too :smug and I never use it :smug

APPLE :bow2
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Cormacaroni on January 28, 2010, 05:04:51 PM
All it is pretty much a reader device. Without multitasking or Flash support, it's not even a smartphone replacement. I'm saddened to see Comacaroni is such an Apple lemming. This isn't even a cool product like the iPhone or a sexy MacBook.

jinfash conveniently quoted my pre-announcement list of reasons for wanting JUST a swank reader. I've wanted a Kindle for ages but held off because of the lack of color and ....and other features, plus the impending iPad announcement. I've also made it clear that I'm still capable of being swayed by a Tegra2 device, especially if they hit the market before the iPad hits Japan in June.

but yes, the iPhone is the best thing ever and it has made a drooling idiot of me to an extent.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on January 28, 2010, 05:06:09 PM
Wait until you discover the Droid!
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Cormacaroni on January 28, 2010, 05:08:21 PM
stuck with a 2 year iPhone contract, so no rush there.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Beezy on January 28, 2010, 06:11:23 PM
Wait until you discover the Droid!
8)

The only thing I can see that the iPhone has over this are the games. We don't have much on Android yet. Also the internet is a bit faster on the 3GS.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Raban on January 28, 2010, 06:14:43 PM
Wait until you discover the Droid!

No Nexus One love? :(
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Beezy on January 28, 2010, 06:16:56 PM
Wait until you discover the Droid!

No Nexus One love? :(
no physical keyboard :(
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: BlueTsunami on January 28, 2010, 06:20:33 PM
Not sure if posted, I'll post it anyways...

(http://i.imgur.com/gb9ZN.jpg)
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Beezy on January 28, 2010, 06:27:05 PM
:rofl
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on January 28, 2010, 06:29:07 PM
As long as it has the Apple logo on it, macfags will shit themselves regardless.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on January 28, 2010, 06:34:53 PM
my friend pointed out that the people who are viewing the object from what Apple tells us the device is ("netbook killer") hype are the ones raising both eyebrows in suspicion, and the ones just looking at is a high-res, color eReader ("Kindle killer") are the ones who are super hyped.

I can see that. But it's too important for me that my color eReader/portable media player be more codec/DRM neutral and allow me to view my existing library, legal and otherwise. The idea of a media device I can only sync over USB in iTunes is naff as all hell.

On the otherhand, multitouch digital musical instruments on a screen that large are gonna be sweeeeeet!
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: elektrikluv on January 28, 2010, 06:38:12 PM
Yeah when I think of the device as an eReader that can also play movies/music, it sounds pretty appealing.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Cormacaroni on January 28, 2010, 06:40:29 PM
my friend pointed out that the people who are viewing the object from what Apple tells us the device is ("netbook killer") hype are the ones raising both eyebrows in suspicion, and the ones just looking at is a high-res, color eReader ("Kindle killer") are the ones who are super hyped.

I can see that. But it's too important for me that my color eReader/portable media player be more codec/DRM neutral and allow me to view my existing library, legal and otherwise. The idea of a media device I can only sync over USB in iTunes is naff as all hell.

On the otherhand, multitouch digital musical instruments on a screen that large are gonna be sweeeeeet!

haha, that wouldn't have been Prole by any chance? I posted the exact same thing on his FB yesterday.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Beezy on January 28, 2010, 06:41:29 PM
I hate reading long articles or stories on a computer screen. I can feel it straining my eyes.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on January 28, 2010, 06:44:22 PM
my friend pointed out that the people who are viewing the object from what Apple tells us the device is ("netbook killer") hype are the ones raising both eyebrows in suspicion, and the ones just looking at is a high-res, color eReader ("Kindle killer") are the ones who are super hyped.

I can see that. But it's too important for me that my color eReader/portable media player be more codec/DRM neutral and allow me to view my existing library, legal and otherwise. The idea of a media device I can only sync over USB in iTunes is naff as all hell.

On the otherhand, multitouch digital musical instruments on a screen that large are gonna be sweeeeeet!

haha, that wouldn't have been Prole by any chance? I posted the exact same thing on his FB yesterday.

no, it was a RL friend who really wants one. you and he are the only people I know who think the iPad is a good idea, and you're both looking at it from the perspective of a Kindle-category killer. from that viewpoint, I can see the iPad being extremely desirable - though things like the closed ecosystem and 4:3 screen still make it DOA to me.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on January 28, 2010, 06:45:43 PM
I want a Kindle Killer too but I don't think this is it.  Maybe a couple of more years.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: BlueTsunami on January 28, 2010, 06:47:50 PM
I hate reading long articles or stories on a computer screen. I can feel it straining my eyes.

:bow e-ink :bow2
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 28, 2010, 06:50:12 PM
4:3 makes for better comics reading
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on January 28, 2010, 06:53:40 PM
4:3 makes for better comics reading

O_O

you're talking to someone who keeps his second widescreen monitor vertical explicitly for comics reading

the ideal comics tablet reader is 9:16, not 16:9 ;)
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Cormacaroni on January 28, 2010, 06:56:43 PM
It costs like $10 more than the Kindle deluxe. That's obviously the market Apple is going for. We only started hearing rumors of a tablet from them after the Kindle starting kicking ass in a brand-new market.

A netbook has more features and is cheaper but it won't work for the single thing i want a tablet for: reading on the train during my 2hrs of daily commute time.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 28, 2010, 07:05:26 PM
on my 15.6" laptop which is 16:9, when i rotate the page there are black bars at the top and bottom of comics pages because CDisplay shrinks them to fit the screen, it loses a lot of screen real estate

i also printed up several comic pages last night sized to the screen of the ipad, and almost all of them took up the full height and width, even modern stuff

comics themselves aren't 16:9 sized when turned on their sides, especially golden and silver age comics - which were more akin to the squarish dimensions of a magazine

for a high res large computer monitor, yeah, i'm sure it looks great and you don't really notice the blank pixels at the top or bottom, but 9.7" at 1024x768 resolution screen space is a necessity
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Cormacaroni on January 28, 2010, 07:21:10 PM
Jobs said a lot of stupid shit, as usual.

Man, June is a long way away.

@Patel: what content do you envision being a problem on the iPad? Apart from the hassle of transcoding video (which is basically one click, it just takes up CPU time), I haven't had any issues with the iPhone.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 28, 2010, 07:25:15 PM
this is what i'm talking about

(http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c121/KParrott/th_wdeadscreenshot.png) (http://s26.photobucket.com/albums/c121/KParrott/?action=view&current=wdeadscreenshot.png)

on a 23" high res screen it's not a big deal, but on a 9.7" that would be a lot of lost space
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on January 28, 2010, 07:27:57 PM
I want a Kindle Killer too but I don't think this is it.  Maybe a couple of more years.

Notion Ink Adam.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Rman on January 28, 2010, 08:07:52 PM
I had a 1st gen Kindle for a bit, but I honestly prefer bound books.  It's a nice device, but I prefer paper.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Cormacaroni on January 28, 2010, 08:10:44 PM
Wait 'til you're my age and have shelves groaning with the things i.e. no space to put Blu-Rays and Hollywood games. Doesn't help that there is effectively no resale market for English books in Japan.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Rman on January 28, 2010, 08:14:24 PM
I do love the space saving aspect of e-readers, but I just vastly prefer flipping pages.  I'm not a pack rat. I tend to edit my shelves yearly, giving away books to family, friends, or donating them the public library.  I also use the public library a lot as well.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on January 28, 2010, 08:19:02 PM
I've got no need or desire for Apple's Kindle 2.0 but I just jailbroke my iPhone the other day and now it's like having a whole new device.  I should've jailbroken the thing right when I got it...the thing is awesome.  Not that I really want to watch movies on the thing, but now I can open up the unlimitedvid app through Cydia and stream or download shit like Avatar, Lovely Bones, Legion, The Road, The Book of Eli, etc with the touch of a button and all for free.  It's pretty fucking cool.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Powerslave on January 28, 2010, 08:24:33 PM
but now I can open up the unlimitedvid app through Cydia and stream or download shit like Avatar

 :smug
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Cormacaroni on January 28, 2010, 09:19:12 PM
good luck finding anything like the Republic of Gamers in Japan. I've given up. BTO seems to be the best option if you want a gaming laptop.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Cormacaroni on January 28, 2010, 09:19:33 PM
also lol book reading
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on January 28, 2010, 09:32:18 PM
Eclipse/C# XNA dev



Touch screen programing?  no thanks.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Agent Whiskers on January 29, 2010, 01:29:12 AM
I travel alot and have to fly to work so this would be the perfect companion for long helicopter rides. Definitely getting the 16GB Wi-Fi model.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 29, 2010, 10:53:35 AM
Specs comparison of the various tablets, going by what's known so far:

http://gizmodo.com/5459308/slate-showdown-ipad-vs-hp-slate-vs-joojoo-vs-the-android-tablets

(http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c121/KParrott/500x_slate_showdown_chart_final.jpg)
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Eric P on January 29, 2010, 11:13:21 AM
4:3 makes for better comics reading

O_O

you're talking to someone who keeps his second widescreen monitor vertical explicitly for comics reading

the ideal comics tablet reader is 9:16, not 16:9 ;)

fuck that's nerdy
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on January 29, 2010, 11:46:33 AM
Considering Tegra 2 has 10.1 Flash support, and other tablets (like Compal) have it up and running, I highly doubt any Android/Tegra 2 tablet will ship without Flash support.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 29, 2010, 11:54:56 AM
android doesn't currently run flash, and haven't set a firm date as to when it will be available

atom processors handle flash like dogshit, even low-res youtube stutters, so i hope the slate is packing a little something extra

i'm sure these comparisons will be updated later - again, "what's known so far"
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 29, 2010, 11:57:03 AM
here's another comparison article:

http://www.benzinga.com/markets/company-news/103257/tablet-showdown-apple-ipad-hp-slate-msi-tegra-2-aapl-nvda-hpq-msft
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Raban on January 29, 2010, 12:13:39 PM
As far as eBooks, I don't really care for any of them except the Nook, and when B&N manages to fix the speed issues, I may bite on that one. Otherwise, I don't really see the appeal in these things.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 29, 2010, 02:25:40 PM
huh

i am inclined to go with "not gonna have flash," but that'd be nice
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on January 29, 2010, 03:18:45 PM
android doesn't currently run flash, and haven't set a firm date as to when it will be available

Huh? The HTC Hero has supported Flash, and several Android/Tegra 2 devices were shown off with Flash support (Compal's tablet comes to mind). Flash 10 support has been in beta on Android for awhile.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Raban on January 29, 2010, 04:00:06 PM
Is the SDK for Android ever going to be Win7-compatible? I'm taking a programming class and it'd be some great practice to make doodads for my phone when I get the N1.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 29, 2010, 08:48:30 PM
Hmmmm...

http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/29/lenovo-ideapad-s10-3t-multitouch-tablet-up-for-order-with-atom-n/

http://shop.lenovo.com/us/notebooks/ideapad/s-series/s10-3t
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on January 29, 2010, 09:26:39 PM
Damn, even Nintendo hates it!

Quote
Nintendo boss man Satoru Iwata made no effort to hide his underwhelming opinion of Apple's new iPad.

"It was a bigger iPod Touch," he said, following the revealing of the new gadget earlier this week and the internet-conquering hype that surrounded it.

"There were no surprises for me," he said later in the interview (AP via NY Times).
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Cormacaroni on January 29, 2010, 10:13:15 PM
So, I heard that NVidia had to send 10 engineers to Adobe for 8 months or so to get Flash running on Tegra2. It's not a trivial operation. My buddy there thinks there is no way it'll ever run on the ARM chip in the iPad (or the iPhone). He is obviously teh bias (although he's a fan of iphone, and has a Touch as well).
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Rman on January 29, 2010, 10:16:43 PM
Flash is garbage.  Pure and simple.  Unfortunately, it's not gonna die anytime soon. 
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on January 29, 2010, 10:38:23 PM
Year of the tablet: 2011
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 29, 2010, 10:41:23 PM
silverlight is so much better

i can stream sd netflix movies with nary a stutter on my old-skool msi wind netbook, whereas even cruddy youtube vids hang and freeze
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: brawndolicious on January 29, 2010, 10:58:22 PM
Somebody on the radio mentioned that iTab is a better name, yes it is.

Also, I don't think that Apple designed this specifically for the massive market of comic book fans who really need an ebook reader but that seems to be all that it's good for.  The price and battery life make it just obscene compared to regular old b&w text ebooks and it has no real functionality at all compared to netbooks.  What does it do?
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: BlueTsunami on January 29, 2010, 10:58:57 PM
Flash is garbage.  Pure and simple.  Unfortunately, it's not gonna die anytime soon. 

YouTube is already in Beta with their HTML5 Video streaming

http://www.youtube.com/html5
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 29, 2010, 11:33:35 PM
So, I heard that NVidia had to send 10 engineers to Adobe for 8 months or so to get Flash running on Tegra2. It's not a trivial operation. My buddy there thinks there is no way it'll ever run on the ARM chip in the iPad (or the iPhone). He is obviously teh bias (although he's a fan of iphone, and has a Touch as well).

webOS is getting an update to support flash in February and the Palm Pre has the same processor as the iPhone.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Dickie Dee on January 30, 2010, 12:31:45 AM
Flash is garbage.  Pure and simple.  Unfortunately, it's not gonna die anytime soon. 

YouTube is already in Beta with their HTML5 Video streaming

http://www.youtube.com/html5

Is that just for Youtube or is Google developing it for wider use?
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: BlueTsunami on January 30, 2010, 12:35:00 AM
Flash is garbage.  Pure and simple.  Unfortunately, it's not gonna die anytime soon. 

YouTube is already in Beta with their HTML5 Video streaming

http://www.youtube.com/html5

Is that just for Youtube or is Google developing it for wider use?

A couple of groups are trying to make it mainstream. I'm not that knowledgeable on web development though. All I know is that Safari, Chrome and Firefox (3.5) support HTML5 streaming and that YouTube and Vimeo are using it.

It'll be interesting if iPad supports HTML5. If it does, then Youtube videos would be viewable without a special section devoted to the device.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: huckleberry on January 30, 2010, 01:24:51 AM
does mobile safari use html5?
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: bork on January 30, 2010, 01:25:25 AM
My father is back to wanting one of these things again.  :-\

Him: "It will be great for people who just use computers for light entertainment.  Hell, now that I'm retired, I could do just about everything I need to on one.  I wouldn't need to buy another computer.  This would replace it entirely!"
Me: "How are you going to sync up your phone?  And your music?  And you can't do everything you need to on it anyway.  It doesn't even have a camera!"
Him: "What do you mean?  It syncs right up to a computer just like an iPhone.  And it's just missing flash -Apple will get that worked in sooner or later.  Who cares about a camera?"
Me: "No, you said an iPad would replace your computer.  You can't sync up your phone to it.  And you're also limited to the app store.  You can't use different browsers or any other types of software/plug-ins you might want to use.  No camera means no visuals on something like Skype."
Him: "......."
Me: "This thing is just a giant iPhone.  You can't use it as a computer replacement like you might be able to use a tablet PC.  And it's worthless to just about anyone who has an iPhone.  This thing is going to bomb.  It's another MacBook Air.  And you just know the next version will have a bunch of the shit this first one is missing."
Him: "It will be a lot more successful than you think!"
Me: "Whatever.  All I know is that you don't need one.  Stop trying to convince yourself.  You barely even use the iPhone you have now.   :lol"
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Raban on January 30, 2010, 03:35:08 AM
The only eReader I'm really interested in is the nook.

This thing is like Apple's PSPgo, but it's going to sell a ton instead of bomb.

If you want a netbook, in the same price range there are many that will net you much better specs.
If you want an eBook reader, there are cheaper alternatives that don't fricassee your eyeballs.

This really appeals to nobody but macfags.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: demi on January 30, 2010, 03:38:02 AM
http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/f7a03edbd7/pee-wee-gets-an-ipad

Oh peewee
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Raban on January 30, 2010, 03:50:59 AM
http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/f7a03edbd7/pee-wee-gets-an-ipad

Oh peewee

This is just sad.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: BlueTsunami on January 30, 2010, 12:50:05 PM
does mobile safari use html5?

I just looked it up and it does in some limited form. It looks to support the video tags so maybe Apple were forward thinking with this.
Title: Looks like the shit's already starting
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 30, 2010, 02:46:54 PM
http://gizmodo.com/5460203/the-apple+amazon-ebook-war-begins-amazon-deletes-macmillan-books

stuff like this is why i will never, ever pay full retail price for or fully trust digital distribution

from the comments:

Quote
AWESOME! Now Book piracy will become a standard. The selection of piratable well formatted books is going to increase ten fold. THANKS PUBLISHING ASSHOLES!

 :pirate
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: BlueTsunami on January 30, 2010, 03:06:51 PM
I'm still in awe (I really shouldn't be) at the publishers belief that an e-book should be priced exactly the same as something that has been printed and distributed physically (in some cases, more so!). Truly a case for wanting their cake and eating it.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Cormacaroni on January 30, 2010, 07:22:35 PM
Yeah. And no-one can proffer a better reason than "Publishers are haemorrhaging money. BOOKS MAY VANISH FROM OUR CULTURE UNLESS YOU PAY UP"
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on January 30, 2010, 07:28:04 PM
The whole debate is silly too. There are going to be so many tablet and reader devices on the market within the next year that unless everyone can agree on an affordable, impulse buy price point (like 99 cents for music) - piracy will eat away their profit margins. It doesn't help that there are like ten different formats that people are selling books in.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 30, 2010, 08:18:21 PM
somewhere in the range of $4.99-$6.99 would be ideal, and they were selling well at an inflated $9.99 but it seems pubs are intent on committing sucide by shifting to Apple and pricing text at $15

it takes less than a second to download an entire novel in .epub format, btw - pirating books is something you don't even need torrents or newsgroups for
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: drew on January 30, 2010, 08:23:00 PM
i still cant comprehend how they let this thing out into the wild without flash
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Raban on January 30, 2010, 08:25:50 PM
The whole debate is silly too. There are going to be so many tablet and reader devices on the market within the next year that unless everyone can agree on an affordable, impulse buy price point (like 99 cents for music) - piracy will eat away their profit margins. It doesn't help that there are like ten different formats that people are selling books in.

This is something I can't stand. I hate that we've done this with every media in existence, and it only gets more spun out and convoluted as time goes on. Movies have at least five different formats, music is probably around ten iirc, and eBooks are coming in different formats as well. Embedded video was once just flash, but now that's spun out into three different varieties. This shit really needs to stop.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on January 30, 2010, 08:32:24 PM
somewhere in the range of $4.99-$6.99 would be ideal, and they were selling well at an inflated $9.99 but it seems pubs are intent on committing sucide by shifting to Apple and pricing text at $15

At $4.99, I would impulse buy just about anything, especially older OOP stuff just to avoid the trip to the used book store / using Amazon zShops. $9.99 for hardcovers is inflated but I could deal.

Book piracy is gonna be out of control, though. I mean, you thought music piracy was bad. Once these readers are out and prevalent, it's gonna be brutal.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Raban on January 30, 2010, 08:33:53 PM
If books were more like .99 for older books and 4.99 for newer stuff I'd be so down.

I want the nook really bad, but the book prices are through the roof for the most part. And no support from Penguin makes me :'(
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 30, 2010, 08:44:36 PM
i get the feeling apple is going to disallow any ipad-specific stanza/kindle/etc ebook reader app
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on January 30, 2010, 10:09:57 PM
Book piracy is gonna be out of control, though. I mean, you thought music piracy was bad. Once these readers are out and prevalent, it's gonna be brutal.

Pretty much. The publishers are in for a world of pain if they're going to make it this expensive and this convoluted for people to buy books for tablets/readers. iTunes worked because it was easy, simple and affordable.

$15 for digital text? Are you fucking kidding me? I don't think I've paid that much for an actual book in like, four years.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: ToxicAdam on January 31, 2010, 08:44:40 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JPTaoDwOz4

Here's a 15 minute hands-on.


After watching this, I am still interested, but probably will wait a few years. Seems like the apps need to "catch up" to the Ipad. They don't seem to really utilize the size and speed of the Ipad. Also, it just looks awkward balancing the thing on one hand while you have your other hand free to mash on it.

I'd probably feel different if I didn't just buy my wife an Ipod touch last christmas. Any kind of "wow" effect is muted.



Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: BlueTsunami on January 31, 2010, 08:53:10 AM
Would be awesome if they had a recessed bar in the back of the thing that you could grab (goes against the sleep jumbo iPod look though). But something definitely needs to be made to actually be able to hold the thing, I can't believe they designed it like that. The only comfortable way I can think of is placing it on your forearms like your putting it in a headlock.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on January 31, 2010, 09:38:10 AM
I read pirated ebooks from time to time.

There is no way I'll pay $15 for a book online.  Paying the same price for a hardcover as an online version, especially since it is digital distribution, is pretty much bullshit.  I often re-read books I own several times and I'd hate for a service to go belly up but stupidly paying the same price I could for actually owning the book.

I suppose the best thing for me to do is wait to see if the iPad shakes things up.  I suspect in the end, I'll stick with regular books.  I think the Kindle will keep going since Amazon is a strong, stable company.  The nook, not so much.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: chronovore on January 31, 2010, 10:01:12 AM
An author on my FB feed stated that price of ebooks is just a matter of what they need to sell to make money. I'll paraphrase, but he echo'd another author's sentiment that it is preferable to have 2000 fans that paid $10 a book than 20,000 fans who paid 99¢. I can only see that thinking as very short-term. Yes, you've got a small group of people who are willing to pay more money for your stuff, but it's less likely that your audience will grow on impulse buys or advice, particularly since the "loaning" of ebooks is still complex and poorly implemented.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 31, 2010, 10:26:03 AM
Well, Jobs is somewhat right about Flash (it fucking sucks), and as for Google, I've always thought that moving to a reliance on web-only applications/programs is only partially useful.

Jobs says some incredibly short-sighted (and outright stupid) things sometimes.  When asked about ereaders a couple of years ago he responded along the lines of "No one reads anymore."  Which is flat-out wrong, and blatantly stupid.  Think about how much time the average person spends on the internet every day.  And I'm not talking about dicking around on message boards, either.  I'm talking about looking up information, online newspapers, reading for entertainment, etc.  More people read now than ever simply because of that ease of access - I'm not convinced it's made the world more intelligent as a whole, or that everything being read is beneficial or edifying, but it's a fact.  And now he's using that fact as a selling point for his slab.

I think ebooks are one of the best things to come out of the internet. Do they take some getting used to?  Sure.  However, I've already read books that I never would have had access to (without extensive travel or enormous amounts of money) had ebooks never existed.  I do worry a little about the future, and what could potentially be lost forever should books and information make that shift to being solely delivered in a digital format, but while they're around I'm glad I can take advantage of them.  

As for pricing, this is just another example of media corporations making the transition to digital by overreacting, and fucking themselves into a rampant piracy situation before they finally wise up and start realising that five dollars is better than no dollars.  They better come to that realisation faster than the music and movie businesses did, though.  I agree with the thought that this will be worse than music or movies, as far as piracy.  There are already scanning groups out there who OCR paper books which aren't available in ebook formats (which is sort of crazy to me, considering the time involved). The average size of an ebook in a pure .txt file format is around 500kb, and as I've said it takes less than a second to download.  You don't need torrents or newsgroups to get them.  What would be equivalent to a bookshelf full of novels can be sent as an email attachment.  This will spin out of corporate control faster than music or movies ever did, because you don't need anything special to pirate it.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on January 31, 2010, 10:36:03 AM
$5 is an excellent price for an eBook.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 31, 2010, 09:27:51 PM
hahaha, amazon already caved:

http://gizmodo.com/5460826/amazon-gives-in-will-sell-ebooks-on-macmillans-terms

amazon has their own print-on-demand self-publishing service called createspace - https://www.createspace.com/ and you can self-publish your work via kindle format here https://dtp.amazon.com/mn/signin

i wonder if any big names will start bypassing publishers altogether?



Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: chronovore on February 01, 2010, 12:16:47 AM
hahaha, amazon already caved:

http://gizmodo.com/5460826/amazon-gives-in-will-sell-ebooks-on-macmillans-terms

amazon has their own print-on-demand self-publishing service called createspace - https://www.createspace.com/ and you can self-publish your work via kindle format here https://dtp.amazon.com/mn/signin

i wonder if any big names will start bypassing publishers altogether?
Way to cave, Amazon! "We will eventually capitulate, at which point it will be up to you" -- pass that buck. Or fifteen bucks, as the case may be.

In reality, this is how it should be, though: let the market decide what it will pay. If other publishers are offering lower prices than MacMillan, they may eventually come around. Hopefully it doesn't go the other way.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Cormacaroni on February 01, 2010, 12:46:09 AM
lol at amazon bleating in defeat about MacMillan having a 'monopoly' over its own titles. Fuck off, it owns them! It doesn't prevent other publishers from owning other books, which would be monopolistic perhaps.

Amazon needs to man up and buy a publisher, THEN we can talk seriously about a 'monopoly' in the publishing industry.

Having said that, MacMillan is surely taking a big risk here. Amazon knows a hell of a lot more about what prices people will tolerate for online purchases than they do. I think $5 should be plenty to let everybody dip their beak, myself, but I'm aware that most niche authors only survive because a passionate minority are prepared to pay $30-plus for hardbacks and rare works. Most textbooks would not exist at a $5 price point, for example.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: brawndolicious on February 01, 2010, 01:06:01 AM
Online textbooks by themselves usually cost $40-$50 but usually the big $200 physical textbook is bundled with an online access code that includes everything (etext and the often graded online homework problems) and that lasts you for the entire course series.  At least that's how math and science classes are doing it these days.

If ebook readers had a touch screen (so you can do the homework) and compatibility with all of the online stuff on the publisher websites, I could see them really taking off with the students who don't want to lug around a textbook everywhere.  We're probably a few years away from that though.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Cormacaroni on February 01, 2010, 01:11:38 AM
My point is that textbooks are limited by the size of the market, so reducing the price won't do anything for increasing total sales. Selling more of the ebook version will just cannibalize sales of the paper version, resulting in a net loss for the publisher vs 100% paper sales.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: brawndolicious on February 01, 2010, 01:37:13 AM
It's not the same thing as obscure writers with niche markets because the textbooks publishers usually make dozens of different textbooks for many different subjects and they already know precisely how many teachers are going to require their classes to buy that book.  That means that they have guaranteed sales and know exactly how many pennies to charge for everything to make a profit.  You can right now buy an online etextbook with all the online homework and guides for a fraction of the cost of the physical textbook, which to me sounds like there's a huge cost in actually printing and shipping a book.

If you're student, it's more convenient to get a netbook/tablet and access your (cheaper/more useful version) books on that.  Hell, I probably already spend more time looking at online material than looking at the paper books and I usually don't carry a computer to school.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Cormacaroni on February 01, 2010, 01:53:32 AM
I don't even know what point you're trying to make, never mind what point of mine you're responding to. You do this a lot.

Yes, they have guaranteed sales, but they also have a hard ceiling on sales. Just because they have guaranteed sales does NOT imply that they make a profit, however. A large percentage of retail offerings in any market never make a profit yet they continue to be offered. This is especially true of publishing - the profits on best sellers pay for everything else. So you can't just work back from current prices and say 'that's what they cost, and this is how much profit the publishers must be making'.

The price of a paper textbook also factors in the RESALE value of that book. You will pay more for a physical copy if you know you can flip it when you're done with it, like a car. They can't price that in with most ebooks (yet).
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: brawndolicious on February 01, 2010, 02:35:27 AM
well what I'm trying to say is just that a publisher will know before the book hits the market approximately how many students will be required to buy it (as in if the class requires the book or the supplemental materials).  That makes it easier to predict how much to charge for it.

For used books, it's complicated.  If the book is about to be revised (usually every 4 years) then it has no resale value and a brand new book also loses some value after every owner, especially the second to last one since they have to sell it to someone who knows that they can't sell it again.  Even if it's cheaper that way, you may still need to buy an online access code (which is bundled with a new book or with the etext).

For math and science books, there's a definite market there.
Title: There goes another one
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 02, 2010, 07:37:00 PM
http://gizmodo.com/5462724/another-blow-in-the-great-amazonapple-publishing-war-harpercollins

The upshot is that bestsellers will be hitting the usual suspect "distribution channels" a lot sooner!
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Cormacaroni on February 02, 2010, 08:04:29 PM
This wouldn't be a problem if they didn't insist on selling to amazon at the same prices as their regular books. Amazon taking a $5 hit on each ebook is just surreal. That'll only last as long as they're selling mountains of kindles.

There is so much they could do here. Package codes along with physical copies. Offer all-you-can-eat services. Allow subscriptions to all publications in a particular field for scholars. But no. MUST BE SAME PRICE AS THE PAPER OR BOOKS WILL DIE.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: BlueTsunami on February 02, 2010, 08:19:34 PM
Its as if all these publishers don't realize that piracy is a huge threat and will only drive users to piracy by willfully sabotaging their own e-Book sales (by hiking the prices).

teiresias on GAF posted two examples. One where Mcmillan priced an e-Book and hardcover similarly and kept the e-Book price the same despite the soft cover being out for a year. Another being an e-Book priced at $16.50 and the Hardcover priced $15.50 (not exact but basically a dollar off).
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 02, 2010, 08:44:35 PM
Once the legwork for the print version of a novel is done (editing, formatting, promotional expenses, etc) converting to ebook format adds very little (if any) expense on top of that.  If a major new work was released solely in the ebook format, I could understand some of the arguments being made, but that's never been the case.  People are going to vote with their wallets moreso than movies or music here.  They're just not going to buy them - or they're going to steal them.  And stealing them is very, very easy - hell, you could post the text of a novel as a message on a forum, barring any sort of character limit for posts.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Eric P on February 02, 2010, 09:13:19 PM
also, novels are TINY compared to music
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Don Flamenco on February 02, 2010, 09:27:32 PM
iAmAmbivalentToThisDevice
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: chronovore on February 02, 2010, 09:43:57 PM
Not being widescreen is just stupid. I remember reading comics on my Hp TX1000 and it was perfect. This... this is just stupid.
The iPad is 4:3, or 1.33 while western comics are 1.57. That's less horrible than watching a 2.35 movie on a 1.78 (16:9) screen.
/whitewhine
This wouldn't be a problem if they didn't insist on selling to amazon at the same prices as their regular books. Amazon taking a $5 hit on each ebook is just surreal. That'll only last as long as they're selling mountains of kindles.

There is so much they could do here. Package codes along with physical copies. Offer all-you-can-eat services. Allow subscriptions to all publications in a particular field for scholars. But no. MUST BE SAME PRICE AS THE PAPER OR BOOKS WILL DIE.
ebooks are living in distinguished mentally-challenged-land right now; the publishers worry about how to make as much money humanly possible, trying to carry the perceived value of their product into the digital age, ignoring the difference of the format. Ever try loaning a DRM-formatted ebook to a friend? Ever try selling a "first edition" ebook to a collector? Ever considered the shelfspace and gasoline needed to ship an ebook to its end user? Apparently they haven't.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Cormacaroni on February 02, 2010, 10:20:35 PM
also, novels are TINY compared to music

I think Eel  has made this point in every single one of his posts on the thread.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 02, 2010, 10:23:48 PM
i just can't get over the fact that we know there's never been a media easier to pirate and yet, apparently, publishers don't

Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Cormacaroni on February 02, 2010, 10:29:13 PM
It'll take a while.

And in the meantime, we all have a great excuse to pirate the crap out of them. Yay. :pirate
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Eric P on February 02, 2010, 10:32:55 PM
I dunno.  Libraries fulfill my need for new books so that supresses my Must Have impulses
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Cormacaroni on February 02, 2010, 10:34:05 PM
Japanese libraries :(
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: chronovore on February 02, 2010, 11:09:41 PM
Japanese libraries :(
Japanese libraries.
Prices on imported western books at -ANY- Japanese storefront.
Selection of imported western books at -ANY- Japanese storefront.
*weeps openly*
:japancry
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Cormacaroni on February 03, 2010, 12:22:08 AM
Japanese libraries :(
Japanese libraries.
Prices on imported western books at -ANY- Japanese storefront.
Selection of imported western books at -ANY- Japanese storefront.
*weeps openly*
:japancry

NOW do you people see why I want an iPad.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Cormacaroni on February 03, 2010, 02:56:13 AM
I can't remember a time when I didn't own 100 books :tophat
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Raban on February 03, 2010, 03:22:47 AM
I think I have like 20 books. Half of which are at or have more than 300 pages. Kind of tough to lug around.

But Cormac, I wouldn't get an iPad, that's like burning money. Get a legit eReader, but wait until this nonsense settles.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Christopher on February 03, 2010, 03:37:05 PM
I personally would have marketed it as the end all to college text books / notebooks - like Apple or Amazon really should get on that textbook market where you could just use one of these devices and download/load a CD/USB to your book and have it at your convience instead of dragging around books.

I thought of that when going with my girl her bookstore saying what shit this is still with this archaic money hole scheme that they do - making new SLIGHTLY new editions yearly and charging and arm and a leg for them.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Eric P on February 03, 2010, 03:42:06 PM
I can't remember a time when I didn't own 100 books :tophat

i don't even want to think about how many books i have

Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: elektrikluv on February 03, 2010, 03:44:38 PM
I can't remember a time when I didn't own 100 books :tophat

i don't even want to think about how many books i have



Lol same
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on February 03, 2010, 03:56:15 PM
when I moved back from Japan 80% of my boxes were books, and that was after getting rid of 2/3 of my books
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Eric P on February 03, 2010, 04:05:35 PM
books and records are my love

my curse
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Brehvolution on February 03, 2010, 04:53:04 PM
Holy shit that is a lot of books. I own 2 books and both were gifts from EB SS.  :lol
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Cormacaroni on February 03, 2010, 07:17:43 PM
I think I have like 20 books. Half of which are at or have more than 300 pages. Kind of tough to lug around.

But Cormac, I wouldn't get an iPad, that's like burning money. Get a legit eReader, but wait until this nonsense settles.

Buying an apartment in Tokyo is burning money. This is chump change.

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Post by: ManaByte on February 03, 2010, 07:43:44 PM
I think I have like 20 books. Half of which are at or have more than 300 pages. Kind of tough to lug around.

But Cormac, I wouldn't get an iPad, that's like burning money. Get a legit eReader, but wait until this nonsense settles.

The lowest price iPad is $2 more than the large Kindle...has a color screen and a fucking BACKLIGHT. It's a more legit eReader than the Kindle is.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: BlueTsunami on February 03, 2010, 07:46:13 PM
has a color screen and a fucking BACKLIGHT. It's a more legit eReader than the Kindle is.

Shake.my.head.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Flannel Boy on February 03, 2010, 07:48:52 PM
Does it use e-ink? No!

I can't read a two or three page article on an LCD screen without getting eyestrain.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Flannel Boy on February 03, 2010, 07:55:37 PM
Three of my classes are going nuts with online materials. "We're saving paper!" No you're not; I just end up printing everything anyway.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: chronovore on February 03, 2010, 08:06:44 PM
Three of my classes are going nuts with online materials. "We're saving paper!" No you're not; I just end up printing everything anyway.
That means they're saving paper, but you're not.

BTW, this was a charming article by the articulate and largely reasonable (or at least large) Stephen Fry:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2010/jan/29/stephen-fry-apple-ipad
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Cormacaroni on February 03, 2010, 08:12:25 PM
Stephen Fry DEFINES articulate and charming. Utter redundancy there but thanks for the link.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Raban on February 03, 2010, 09:17:38 PM
has a color screen and a fucking BACKLIGHT. It's a more legit eReader than the Kindle is.

Shake.my.head.

I'm glad somebody understands what's up about this piece of trash.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Cormacaroni on February 04, 2010, 12:53:15 AM
Does it use e-ink? No!

I can't read a two or three page article on an LCD screen without getting eyestrain.

I'm experimenting with reading on the iPhone at the moment; really hasn't been a problem thus far. I'm quite sure e-ink would be better, and maybe the smaller screen of the iphone hides the problem...but i've been pleasantly surprised at how readable it is.

otoh, OCR errors everywhere :yuck

Occasional typos in paper books are annoying enough, especially in the 12th edition when they've been there since the 1st edition, but OCR errors are INCREDIBLY annoying. They typically substitute a more common word for anything slightly weird, so it doesn't necessarily stand out to the eye as an error. You read the sentence, go 'hang on...', re-read it, figure out the error, silently curse, rinse, and repeat. I can see paying $10 just to avoid those.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 04, 2010, 01:06:27 AM
! for I always makes me laugh

"!'m going to kill you, and fuck your sister over your grave," he snarled.

and i would think wow, he's super-excited
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Cormacaroni on February 04, 2010, 01:20:12 AM
:lol

I kinda get the impression that particular guy is excited even without the exclamation mark though
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 05, 2010, 12:35:58 AM
http://gizmodo.com/5464742/the-999-ebook-is-dead-third-major-publisher-hachette-dumps-on-amazon
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 05, 2010, 12:46:46 AM
:lol
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: M3wThr33 on February 05, 2010, 01:25:05 AM
It's fucking bullshit that Apple allowed this to happen. I mean, it's the OPPOSITE of EVERYTHING they fought for with the iPod. It's clear they only did it to drum up sales on the iPod but fuckers who would invest in an iPad don't give a shit about prices. They're already sold on staring at a bright LCD display for hours at a time to justify their purchase instead of supporting a device DESIGNED for reading books.

Oh that's right. The bezel is touch sensitive, because as we all know from the shift from the click wheel to the iPod Touch, haptic feedback isn't needed anymore on anything. Why have page turning buttons on the iPad? Just do a 3-finger swipe or pinch on the side, or shake it up and down to turn the page. "Beautiful. Elegant. iPad"
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Cormacaroni on February 05, 2010, 01:34:34 AM
uMad?
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: M3wThr33 on February 05, 2010, 01:57:52 AM
Well, my wife was making a wishlist of the books she was going to buy when we get her a kindle in a few weeks and now the prices went up a lot because of Apple.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Cormacaroni on February 05, 2010, 02:03:11 AM
No need to panic. The battle is just getting started. I wouldn't go buy an entire library of ebooks just yet.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: chronovore on February 05, 2010, 04:59:58 AM
It's fucking bullshit that Apple allowed this to happen. I mean, it's the OPPOSITE of EVERYTHING they fought for with the iPod. It's clear they only did it to drum up sales on the iPod but fuckers who would invest in an iPad don't give a shit about prices. They're already sold on staring at a bright LCD display for hours at a time to justify their purchase instead of supporting a device DESIGNED for reading books.

Oh that's right. The bezel is touch sensitive, because as we all know from the shift from the click wheel to the iPod Touch, haptic feedback isn't needed anymore on anything. Why have page turning buttons on the iPad? Just do a 3-finger swipe or pinch on the side, or shake it up and down to turn the page. "Beautiful. Elegant. iPad"
When you get mad, you really don't do it halfway, do you?

I found this to be an interesting read, with a particularly ironic conclusion paragraph:
http://theappleblog.com/2010/02/01/the-e-book-wars-rage-on/
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on February 05, 2010, 04:38:08 PM
iPad comics reader: http://www.panelfly.com/ipad/
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 05, 2010, 04:57:16 PM
the comiczeal guy and the comic reader mobi guy are working on versions of their apps for the iPad, too
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Rman on February 05, 2010, 06:22:32 PM
I've actually warmed up to this device.  I might pick up the 499 model.  That panelfly reader looks awesome.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: ManaByte on February 05, 2010, 06:25:46 PM
the comiczeal guy and the comic reader mobi guy are working on versions of their apps for the iPad, too

Well you should be able to use the existing iPhone ones in the meantime.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: ManaByte on February 05, 2010, 06:29:39 PM
iPad comics reader: http://www.panelfly.com/ipad/

Just downloaded it. You can't import your own comics, so it's a total fail.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 19, 2010, 11:06:33 PM
I think I might get this for $450 and just keep my ipod touch:

http://5z8.info/cockdock.gif_h2a0b_warez

slap another gig in there, upgrade to 2GB ram, install windows 7 pro for the full multitouch, best of all worlds
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on March 13, 2010, 02:40:15 PM
so, yesterday it was found that apparently you can sync any non-drm .epub book through itunes and read it through their ereader software, and you can also use voiceover on any ebook for some comical text-to-speech action

that's pretty cool, i guess, makes stanza pretty unnecessary if they offer similar features (any ebook format is pretty easily converted to .epub, only takes a couple of seconds)
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: M3wThr33 on March 13, 2010, 03:44:54 PM
That's like people being surprised the iPod plays mp3s, not just iTunes files.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on March 13, 2010, 04:00:44 PM
well, they could have always locked out syncing of anything other than books purchased through itunes as a concession to publishers, and the voiceover thing is a bit of a surprise considering the stink publishers raised about the speech-to-text in the kindle
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: chronovore on March 13, 2010, 07:01:52 PM
so, yesterday it was found that apparently you can sync any non-drm .epub book through itunes and read it through their ereader software, and you can also use voiceover on any ebook for some comical text-to-speech action

that's pretty cool, i guess, makes stanza pretty unnecessary if they offer similar features (any ebook format is pretty easily converted to .epub, only takes a couple of seconds)
I'm curious where Stanza backs up its books, askhully. I have a number of books on it, and have fully restored my Touch two or three times. One time it nuked all the books on Stanza, but I'd assumed they'd be included in the backup. Then I realized I have no idea where it puts the app data, and I'm guessing Stanza treats each book as simple app data.

You're saying .epub books can be drag-and-dropped into iTunes and it will organize and store that crap for you?
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Cormacaroni on March 13, 2010, 07:55:20 PM
The Notion Ink Adam is out June 10. That's the only one that really checks all the feature boxes so far, but the more I think about the iPhone, what really makes it click is the 3G connection. Such a mundane thing, these days, and it seems like a waste to pay for another data plan for something you can't even make phone calls on, but really...it transforms a Touch into something massively more useful. Everything else out there is going to be reliant on wifi, and I get zero wifi that isn't at home. Taking away the 3G means you have to be more organized about putting all the media and data you want on the physical device, and moves us back from the server-thin client model I like so much. Tricky.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on March 13, 2010, 08:16:44 PM
so, yesterday it was found that apparently you can sync any non-drm .epub book through itunes and read it through their ereader software, and you can also use voiceover on any ebook for some comical text-to-speech action

that's pretty cool, i guess, makes stanza pretty unnecessary if they offer similar features (any ebook format is pretty easily converted to .epub, only takes a couple of seconds)
I'm curious where Stanza backs up its books, askhully. I have a number of books on it, and have fully restored my Touch two or three times. One time it nuked all the books on Stanza, but I'd assumed they'd be included in the backup. Then I realized I have no idea where it puts the app data, and I'm guessing Stanza treats each book as simple app data.

You're saying .epub books can be drag-and-dropped into iTunes and it will organize and store that crap for you?

I guess that's gonna be the case when they do the update before the iPad launches.

The Lenovo convertible I mentioned above and the Entourage Edge have both gotten mediocre reviews, so they're sorta out for me.

I'm still flipflopping on the iPad, tbh

It'd be an easy NO if I had to pay real money for it.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: chronovore on March 13, 2010, 08:55:16 PM
I don't think I want an iPad, even benefiting from a friend's discount price. First-generation Apple hardware is always akin to a practical joke on early adopters.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: cool breeze on March 13, 2010, 09:26:34 PM
my main concern is the battery life.

well, not the battery life, the fact that it's yet another device i have to remember to charge each night. The Kindle doesn't have that issue and whilst 10 hours is probably more time than i'll ever spend reading books in my entire life, it's still a potential stumbling block if i happen to get into this "reading" thing.



yeah, battery life is a killer.  I hate that I need to charge my netbook after every school day.  Other than the price, the battery life is why I haven't bought an iphone yet.  My old phone can last a week without charging and that includes playing Bookworm for hours on it.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: naff on March 13, 2010, 11:34:44 PM
I don't think I want an iPad, even benefiting from a friend's discount price. First-generation Apple hardware is always akin to a practical joke on early adopters.

Very true. If I lived in the US however I'd be mighty tempted on trying the 16gb 3G model. 30$ A MONTH for unlimited 3G data would be remarkable. Only $630 too. Unless you're a poor it's not exactly going to break the bank, renewing that battery will surely cost a little down the line, but I've only ever had great experiences with Apple support.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: bork on March 15, 2010, 06:21:33 PM
So in other words, when your battery dies, it's only a week wait for them to give you a refurbed iPad for only $105.95.  What a steal! 

Interest or no, let the suckers jump on in and beta test the first-generation models.  Wait for the next round of iPads before purchasing.

Personally I still have zero interest in this thing, or any tablets for that matter.  My iPhone is fine.  I'd like to get a good netbook at some point though.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on March 19, 2010, 08:56:15 AM
HP Slate rumored to be coming in June for around $550:

http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/hp-slate-priced-at-400-for-june-launch-atom-cpu-confirmed/
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: cool breeze on April 03, 2010, 01:47:35 PM
so who dropped $500 to $900 for this thing today?
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: huckleberry on April 03, 2010, 02:03:24 PM
I am still holding out for the 32gb 3g model.  Was tempted to go to Best Buy and purchase one for a quick flip but the storm that passed through this way made me think better of it.


Out of the box, apparently, the ipad will not work.  It has to sync with iTunes just like the touch and the iphone.  Complete bullshit.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on April 03, 2010, 02:11:10 PM
hopefully when all is said and done in my personal affairs i will have enough left (plus the $ from selling my ipod touch) to get the low-end one, it'll probably be the one nice thing i am able to get for myself all year

reading and watching videos of all the comic reader and other neat apps (you can stream netflix instant watch up on this bitch) sort of sealed the deal for me

i kept remembering when i first got my ipod touch and the only complaint i had while messing with it (reading comics, playing games, etc) was "man i wish the screen was bigger" - so i guess i really wanted a big ipod touch all along

my friend told me what i really want is a tricorder, so i pulled my nerd hierarchy card and laughed at him for being a star trek tard

if they're smart they'll release some smallish bluetooth game controllers for use with more traditional games - instant portable gaming system for the business travel crowd
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Rman on April 03, 2010, 02:41:13 PM
the marvel app looks great too. 
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: M3wThr33 on April 03, 2010, 03:12:28 PM
Out of the box, apparently, the ipad will not work.  It has to sync with iTunes just like the touch and the iphone.  Complete bullshit.

Duh? It's still just a big iPod touch. It's NOT a standalone device for grandma. It was never meant to be. People just concocted that reason in their head to justify it.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: bork on April 03, 2010, 04:32:10 PM
Out of the box, apparently, the ipad will not work.  It has to sync with iTunes just like the touch and the iphone.  Complete bullshit.

Duh? It's still just a big iPod touch. It's NOT a standalone device for grandma. It was never meant to be. People just concocted that reason in their head to justify it.

This is kinda funny, since one of the big reasons people think the iPad will be so successful for is that it will capture the same market that just wants to use a stripped-down, easy-to-use device.  But since you need a PC/Mac to sync it up to, it can't quite be used that way.

It would have been better if the iPad worked on its own right out of the box.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 03, 2010, 04:34:01 PM
I have more or less given up on the iPad as a functional tablet for today's needs, but am pretty happy that all these Apple lemmings are buying these giant iPhones - since it'll mean more competition from superior Android/Win 7 devices that will also be undoubtedly cheaper.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: huckleberry on April 03, 2010, 04:35:40 PM
Out of the box, apparently, the ipad will not work.  It has to sync with iTunes just like the touch and the iphone.  Complete bullshit.

Duh? It's still just a big iPod touch. It's NOT a standalone device for grandma. It was never meant to be. People just concocted that reason in their head to justify it.

This is kinda funny, since one of the big reasons people think the iPad will be so successful for is that it will capture the same market that just wants to use a stripped-down, easy-to-use device.  But since you need a PC/Mac to sync it up to, it can't quite be used that way.

It would have been better if the iPad worked on its own right out of the box.



Thank you.

Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: ManaByte on April 03, 2010, 04:51:54 PM
OK the Netflix ap and ABC viewer almost sold me on an iPad.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: cool breeze on April 03, 2010, 10:39:02 PM
yeah, despite looking like a useless product at launch, the apps make it seem awesome...except that scrabble app that is four guys with iphones sitting around an ipad.  I still don't feel that what I need it for would justify the cost of the thing (I'd go 32gig wi-fi only if I got it).  The real killer feature is the battery life.  Reviews are pinning it at 12 hours.  My netbook is around 3 to 4 on the standard battery, and granted it can do a lot more and cost half the price, it is still an impressive number.

I'll get a future revision of it eventually.  For now I'm waiting for the new iphones, hopefully with a good battery life this time.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: bork on April 03, 2010, 10:45:34 PM
If the rumored specs are true, the new iPhones are going to blow the iPads out of the water...

...and the next batch of iPads will have the same features.

Also I call bullshit on the battery life.  You can drain iPhone batteries pretty quickly if you've got internet going and do any "intensive" apps like games.  I'm sure the iPad battery might last that long if wi-fi is off and you're not doing much with it.  :P
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: huckleberry on April 03, 2010, 10:48:41 PM
Walt Mossberg, in his review, said his ipad got more than 10 hrs - all with a mix of music, videos, internet, and other usage.

.....but yeah, I call bullshit. Real world usage always backs down manufacturer claims.  I have never encountered a product yet where the battery life lasted as long as they claim.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: cool breeze on April 03, 2010, 10:49:03 PM
the thing is that Apple was the one who said 10 hours battery life while the reviews and tests people are doing are saying 12 hours.  Don't know what exactly they're doing, but if they are overshooting Apple's estimates, that is kinda great.

but I agree that playing games on the iphone drains is incredibly fast.  That is part of why I haven't bought one yet.  If I'm gonna have an "all in one" device, I don't want my phone to die just because my mp3 player or game playing device died.  Currently I'm able to play Bookworm for hours on my mobile and it barely drains.  I need something like that out of the iphone, then I'll pick one up for sure.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on April 03, 2010, 10:50:38 PM
every one of the iPad reviewers got more out of the battery than the 10 hour apple claims, i don't think they're all conspiring
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on April 03, 2010, 10:53:25 PM
If the rumored specs are true, the new iPhones are going to blow the iPads out of the water...

...and the next batch of iPads will have the same features.


it may be just about on par, but i doubt it will be more powerful

there's a reason the battery takes up almost the entire back of the ipad
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: M3wThr33 on April 04, 2010, 03:53:56 AM
Also, turns out, unless you're using a super-powered USB port on a Mac, your iPad won't charge over USB.

Don't even TRY on a PC.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: bork on April 04, 2010, 07:17:08 AM
Well, let's see how those batteries hold up with that much heavy use over time.  I've been using Apple products since 1986 (which is why I'm telling you guys, DO NOT BUY FIRST GEN APPLE PRODUCTS) and I don't believe the battery life will last-- really wanted to get a Magic Mouse recently, for example, but didn't after reading on MacRumors message boards how the battery life starts out great and then dies out far too quickly.  I got a Kensington mouse instead.

Anyway, the people at Apple are still marketing fucking geniuses.  Everyone is furiously masturbating over the iPad now, and already getting hard over the new iPhones.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: ManaByte on April 04, 2010, 07:32:01 AM
It's not current marketing at all, really. Apple spent millions in the 80s to put Apple computers in elementary schools to indoctrinate kids early on their stuff.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: bork on April 04, 2010, 07:36:38 AM
Oh, Apple does make some great products.  They are just overpriced is all.

It's not current marketing at all, really. Apple spent millions in the 80s to put Apple computers in elementary schools to indoctrinate kids early on their stuff.

That's got absolutely jack and shit to do with their success now.  It was their "i" branding that did it. 

Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: chronovore on April 04, 2010, 07:44:32 AM
hopefully when all is said and done in my personal affairs i will have enough left (plus the $ from selling my ipod touch) to get the low-end one, it'll probably be the one nice thing i am able to get for myself all year

reading and watching videos of all the comic reader and other neat apps (you can stream netflix instant watch up on this bitch) sort of sealed the deal for me

i kept remembering when i first got my ipod touch and the only complaint i had while messing with it (reading comics, playing games, etc) was "man i wish the screen was bigger" - so i guess i really wanted a big ipod touch all along

my friend told me what i really want is a tricorder, so i pulled my nerd hierarchy card and laughed at him for being a star trek tard

if they're smart they'll release some smallish bluetooth game controllers for use with more traditional games - instant portable gaming system for the business travel crowd

No way. The screens on tricorders are really small. :teehee
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: ManaByte on April 04, 2010, 07:49:57 AM
I want an iPad to replace my iPod classic just for movies. But since I currently have 80gigs of movies on my iPod they'll need a much bigger iPad before I grab one.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: naff on April 04, 2010, 10:01:33 AM
Well, let's see how those batteries hold up with that much heavy use over time.  I've been using Apple products since 1986 (which is why I'm telling you guys, DO NOT BUY FIRST GEN APPLE PRODUCTS) and I don't believe the battery life will last-- really wanted to get a Magic Mouse recently, for example, but didn't after reading on MacRumors message boards how the battery life starts out great and then dies out far too quickly.  I got a Kensington mouse instead.

Anyway, the people at Apple are still marketing fucking geniuses.  Everyone is furiously masturbating over the iPad now, and already getting hard over the new iPhones.

The Magic Mouse is potentially worse than those fuckin distinguished mentally-challenged 'mighty mice' with those little circular balls that usually don't work out of the box or break in a few days. I was kinda keen on the magic mouse then I used one and it sucked. The feet of the mouse are made out of thick, hard as fuck rubber so it scratches like finger nails on a chalk board unless you have one smooth ass desk/a glass desk... Why can't apple just not be distinguished mentally-challenged with mice, it's called SILICON YOU FUCKERS. Logitech G7 wireless ftw.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: cool breeze on April 04, 2010, 12:06:37 PM
Well, let's see how those batteries hold up with that much heavy use over time.  I've been using Apple products since 1986 (which is why I'm telling you guys, DO NOT BUY FIRST GEN APPLE PRODUCTS) and I don't believe the battery life will last-- really wanted to get a Magic Mouse recently, for example, but didn't after reading on MacRumors message boards how the battery life starts out great and then dies out far too quickly.  I got a Kensington mouse instead.

Anyway, the people at Apple are still marketing fucking geniuses.  Everyone is furiously masturbating over the iPad now, and already getting hard over the new iPhones.

I've been "hard" over an iphone with a good battery life since the first one came out.  For a while I considered the Droid but in the end I like my ipod touch, I just don't use tit that much because it isn't something I take with me everywhere.  If I can have the functionality of that + a new phone with good battery life, I'll be happy.

and for the apple selling people on the ipad, I mean, they're great at making people think they need their products.  I don't know if anyone else watches Modern Family, but the latest episode is a giant commercial for the ipad.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Dickie Dee on April 04, 2010, 12:14:28 PM
Is there any talk of being able to run both Windows 7 and Windows Phone 7 on any of the upcoming tablets and even toggling or dual booting? - there's something to be said for just pressing the on button and having quick access to 90% of everything you'd want to use it for like the iPad, but I'd still not want them to be limited to it being a smartphone with elephantitis.

Not that I'm exactly sure how such a thing would work.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Rman on April 04, 2010, 01:53:59 PM
Is there any talk of being able to run both Windows 7 and Windows Phone 7 on any of the upcoming tablets and even toggling or dual booting? - there's something to be said for just pressing the on button and having quick access to 90% of everything you'd want to use it for like the iPad, but really don't it to be limited to being a smartphone with elephantitis.

Not that I'm exactly sure how such a thing would work.
No.  MS has very specific specs for phones running WP7.  Tablet sized devices don't fit those specs.  They can change their mind, obviously, but nothing has been announced.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: bork on April 07, 2010, 07:18:18 PM
Was at the mall today and popped into the Apple Store to check out the iPad.  Tons of people inside trying them, nobody buying them.  I know it's sold like half a million already, but it was still kinda funny.  Trying one for myself just confirmed what I already thought about it-- it's a giant iPod Touch and I still have no interest whatsoever in buying one.  It was also a lot heavier than I expected.  Holding one up to read an e-book or browse the internet in situations where you aren't sitting down or standing at a spot without something you can rest it on just isn't going to work.  I don't see how the hell people are going to be able to play driving games where you need to turn the entire iPad to steer, for example, comfortably.  It works with the iPod Touch/iPhone, but it's just too large and awkward with the iPad.  Still, it was nice having a larger screen (Youtube looked like shit though) for web browsing and e-mail (the keyboard kinda sucks), properly-converted videos look fantastic, and the photo viewer is nice and all, but that's nowhere near enough to pique my interest.  I continue to question the whole "iPad fits inbetween smartphones and notebooks" logic.  My iPhone is far more portable and easier to hold, and the iPad can't do 90% of the shit that my netbook can.  It's just not for me.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Cheebs on April 07, 2010, 09:05:57 PM
the people at Apple are still marketing fucking geniuses.


Seriously, if those guys aren't making millions of dollars, they're underpaid. I really don't know how Apple is able to continually convince people they're the best.
They are expected to hit a million sold in America by the time of their conference tomorrow for a $500+  product. It is mind boggling how successful they are with literally every product they come up with, especially tablets which is normally such a niche product but now just the Apple name and a price hike compared to competition puts it on the cover of both Time and Newsweek during launch week.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: AdmiralViscen on April 07, 2010, 11:48:52 PM
Didn't it underperform all the analyst estimates? Everyone was saying 700k but then Apple reported 300k. Still impressive but that doesn't put them on track for a million this week.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Cheebs on April 07, 2010, 11:50:11 PM
Didn't it underperform all the analyst estimates? Everyone was saying 700k but then Apple reported 300k. Still impressive but that doesn't put them on track for a million this week.
No, that was a estimate including all pre-orders that had yet to ship due to the first weeks online orders already being completely sold out as well including 3G orders.  According to MacRumors they hit 750k yesterday in actual sales.

I see this product as useless to me but there is no denying Apple has a huge hit on their hands. But that is too be expected with Apple products nowadays.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Cormacaroni on April 07, 2010, 11:51:50 PM
Plus, that's probably more tablets than have been sold by everyone else combined, ever.
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Post by: Cheebs on April 07, 2010, 11:54:32 PM
That is the thing non-Apple fans should be happy about. Assuming they are interested in the idea of a tablet that is. Apple has completely revived if not invented the modern tablet market  because I doubt the average consumer even heard of a tablet pre-iPad. Unlike us the whole idea of it is probably a lot more impressive and shocking being completely unaware of the tech before this. You will be seeing a lot of new high end tablets all over the place now that its seen as a viable product line.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: AdmiralViscen on April 07, 2010, 11:55:39 PM
:bow win7 :bow2
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Cheebs on April 08, 2010, 12:05:49 AM
It is kind of silly most of the rest of the industry has to rely on Apple's marketing ability to sell the public on "new" product lines (mp3 players and now tablets) before being able to take advantage of the market (and often with superior products). Why not just learn and copy what Apple does right and beat them to the punch in terms of public awareness? Now the public will associate tablets with iPad like they associate mp3 players with iPods. It seems silly Apple is allowed to get away with this time after time. It can't be THAT hard to figure out what Apple does right marketing wise.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: AdmiralViscen on April 08, 2010, 12:18:12 AM
If only HP could figure out a way to get Steve Jobs to hold their shit up in the air and mumble something about a defined purpose.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Cormacaroni on April 08, 2010, 12:20:36 AM
If only HP could figure out a way to get Steve Jobs to hold their shit up in the air and mumble something about a defined purpose.

If only HP had Apple's track record to back up the mumbling.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on April 08, 2010, 12:22:29 AM
because when you hand an ipad to your mom or grandmom they're immediately going to clue the fuck in on how to handle it with very little explanation, and they are willing to pay a premium for not having to figure shit out on their own or call you every night to "fix it."

that's basically their secret

i think the slate will be pretty cool, but hand that to moms and she's going to swipe at a few times before handing it back to you and giving you that "i raised a goddamned nerd" look
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: brawndolicious on April 08, 2010, 12:27:00 AM
The Apple logo is like half their marketing power.

I doubt the iPad will have the influence the iPod and iPhone had though.  Those are much more useful for the mass market while tablets are relatively niche.  Plus the iPad's penetration into the netbook and ereader market is pretty limited by it's price and lack of functionality.  I wonder how much they'll change it in the future.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Cheebs on April 08, 2010, 12:30:05 AM
Plus the iPad's penetration into the netbook and ereader market is pretty limited by it's price and lack of functionality.  I wonder how much they'll change it in the future.
Oh, don't be surprised if the iPad crushed the Kindle as a e-book reader despite price, the screen and limited bookstore (although they have a Kindle app). It's a Apple product. Looking at it logically as a product in terms of price and function compared to competition doesn't work. It has the Apple logo and that changes how things are judged by consumers.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: AdmiralViscen on April 08, 2010, 12:35:51 AM
The Apple logo is like half their marketing power.

I doubt the iPad will have the influence the iPod and iPhone had though.  Those are much more useful for the mass market while tablets are relatively niche.  Plus the iPad's penetration into the netbook and ereader market is pretty limited by it's price and lack of functionality.  I wonder how much they'll change it in the future.

Nah, I think the iPad will bury the ebook market with ease.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Rman on April 08, 2010, 12:40:19 AM
I think the issues with W7 tablets would be running a fully featured OS on an Atom and having decent battery life.  A lot of the praise the iPad has gotten from tech reviewers is the snappiness of the interface.  Having a tablet chug because you're playing HD YT video would really kill the experience.  I think the Android devices have a better shot since it's a mobile OS.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: CajoleJuice on April 08, 2010, 01:06:48 AM
because when you hand an ipad to your mom or grandmom they're immediately going to clue the fuck in on how to handle it with very little explanation, and they are willing to pay a premium for not having to figure shit out on their own or call you every night to "fix it."

that's basically their secret

i think the slate will be pretty cool, but hand that to moms and she's going to swipe at a few times before handing it back to you and giving you that "i raised a goddamned nerd" look

:lol My grandparents can't even figure out their cell phone, but I've managed to teach my grandpa how to use a laptop a bit. He uses Netflix! I think ANY technology is going to confuse them at first.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: cool breeze on April 08, 2010, 01:11:13 AM
I needed to explain how to activate flash on a digital camera just last week to an older gentleman.  True story.  It took about five minutes to understand what he wanted to do, then another five on how to use the function.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: brawndolicious on April 08, 2010, 01:14:29 AM
Oh, don't be surprised if the iPad crushed the Kindle as a e-book reader despite price, the screen and limited bookstore (although they have a Kindle app). It's a Apple product. Looking at it logically as a product in terms of price and function compared to competition doesn't work. It has the Apple logo and that changes how things are judged by consumers.
I'm guessing that most early-adopters are either Apple whores or people who wanted a comic reader (cause of the color screen of course).

I don't see it stealing any netbook buyers since there's already a pretty thin line between laptops and netbooks as far as functionality so all the average consumer has to do is pick a screen size and keyboard size they're happy with right now.  iPad doesn't have flash or a keyboard so obviously it can't be your main internet or word processing device.

Nah, I think the iPad will bury the ebook market with ease.
In a hypothetical world where everybody shops around and doesn't develop brand attachment, it doesn't give anything more for anybody who wants an e-book reader other than the color screen.  But, the only thing it does better than an iTouch or iBook is reading books/comics.  I think it's overlap with other Apple products is going to hurt it more in the e-book market than the price or lack of e-ink honestly.

Basically, it's usefulness is pretty niche compared to other Apple products and other e-book readers on the market.  I can totally see comic fans picking it but I don't see this as the next iPod or iPhone.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Cheebs on April 08, 2010, 01:27:31 AM
The general public won't go with the kindle/nook over this. Do you think they honestly know or care about stuff like e-ink or whatever? They see the Apple brand name and that is enough. Thinking the general public is smart enough to shop around and research is a dream. They go with brand names. It won't be as huge as the iPod or iPhone but it will be big enough to crush the e-book market competition. It is a matter of when not if this thing will speed past the Kindle and Nook in sales.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: brawndolicious on April 08, 2010, 01:29:47 AM
I don't expect them to do anything but compare the iPad with other Apple products.  That might be reasonable.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: bork on April 08, 2010, 01:58:04 AM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_7w2JfojMA[/youtube]

Why is this guy comparing the iPad to an older (or at least more limited compared to better netbooks with ION) Ideapad?

Didn't it underperform all the analyst estimates? Everyone was saying 700k but then Apple reported 300k. Still impressive but that doesn't put them on track for a million this week.
No, that was a estimate including all pre-orders that had yet to ship due to the first weeks online orders already being completely sold out as well including 3G orders.  According to MacRumors they hit 750k yesterday in actual sales.

I see this product as useless to me but there is no denying Apple has a huge hit on their hands. But that is too be expected with Apple products nowadays.

Also that 300k number was just from day one sales.

because when you hand an ipad to your mom or grandmom they're immediately going to clue the fuck in on how to handle it with very little explanation, and they are willing to pay a premium for not having to figure shit out on their own or call you every night to "fix it."

I dunno; mom and grandmom have trouble with regular cell phones, let alone an iPhone or iPad.  Those types of users would still be scratching their heads over limitations like the lack of flash video or why they can't hook the iPad up to a printer to print out their photos or to their modem/router if they don't have wi-fi.


Nah, I think the iPad will bury the ebook market with ease.


Absolutely.  Apple has already pulled a YOU WA SHOCK, "Kindle you are already dead," etc. etc.  I still think the iPad is too heavy for people to hold it like a book though; I'd equate it to holding an encyclopedia.

Make no mistake about it, even if something better comes along, Apple is going to conquer this new tablet market.  Nobody else is going to be able to come along and match the brand awareness and hype it already has.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: bork on April 08, 2010, 03:33:25 AM

This is the new iPhone/ iPod. Expect to see it in every TV show and talk-show out there.

...It is until the new iPhone hits later on this year.   :lol
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: M3wThr33 on April 08, 2010, 05:00:05 AM
the people at Apple are still marketing fucking geniuses.


Seriously, if those guys aren't making millions of dollars, they're underpaid. I really don't know how Apple is able to continually convince people they're the best.
They are expected to hit a million sold in America by the time of their conference tomorrow for a $500+  product. It is mind boggling how successful they are with literally every product they come up with, especially tablets which is normally such a niche product but now just the Apple name and a price hike compared to competition puts it on the cover of both Time and Newsweek during launch week.

Yup. Everything they hit is a home run.
 ::)
(http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb225/M3wThr33/ipod-hifi-boom-box.jpg)
(http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb225/M3wThr33/apple-tv-21.jpg)
(http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb225/M3wThr33/_G4CUBE.gif)
(http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb225/M3wThr33/mm_2.jpg)
(http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb225/M3wThr33/mobileme.jpg)

Those are all household products now, right? From the gummed-up trackball mouse that can't right-click properly to the totally gimped and renamed iTV, connecting to the crippled shoddy Mobile Me service that Jobs publicly apologized for.

And remember his huge announcement about the "simply beautiful" iPod Hi-Fi? Going to revolutionize how you listen to music? What the fuck happened to that? Oh yeah, no one wants a giant fucking ugly speaker.

And the G4 Cube, well, we best ignore that.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Cheebs on April 08, 2010, 09:29:00 AM

This is the new iPhone/ iPod. Expect to see it in every TV show and talk-show out there.

...It is until the new iPhone hits later on this year.   :lol
Nah you will see both, this isn't a replacement for the iPhone.

And no not everything they did was huge obviously, it was a over-statement due to Apples insane success. But if you think the iPad is comparable to the AppleTV that is silly. It is clearly a main product line alongside their computers and iPod/iPhone lines.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: chronovore on April 08, 2010, 02:06:57 PM
Also: Newton and Pippin, but it looks like you weren't going back that far.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: bork on April 08, 2010, 02:30:50 PM

This is the new iPhone/ iPod. Expect to see it in every TV show and talk-show out there.

...It is until the new iPhone hits later on this year.   :lol
Nah you will see both, this isn't a replacement for the iPhone.

And no not everything they did was huge obviously, it was a over-statement due to Apples insane success. But if you think the iPad is comparable to the AppleTV that is silly. It is clearly a main product line alongside their computers and iPod/iPhone lines.

I just mean the hype levels.  The iPad will be pushed to the side once the new iPhones hit.

And then the next iPads will come out and the cycle will continue.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: bork on April 08, 2010, 02:34:16 PM
Also: Newton and Pippin, but it looks like you weren't going back that far.

Did anyone ever even see a Pippin for sale?   :lol
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: chronovore on April 08, 2010, 07:29:10 PM
I have seen one for sale, but it was definitely a surprise. It was some shop in Akiba or Nipponbashi, and it was in a glass case, is all I remember. Weird lookin' thing.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Cheebs on April 08, 2010, 11:51:21 PM

This is the new iPhone/ iPod. Expect to see it in every TV show and talk-show out there.

...It is until the new iPhone hits later on this year.   :lol
Nah you will see both, this isn't a replacement for the iPhone.

And no not everything they did was huge obviously, it was a over-statement due to Apples insane success. But if you think the iPad is comparable to the AppleTV that is silly. It is clearly a main product line alongside their computers and iPod/iPhone lines.

I just mean the hype levels.  The iPad will be pushed to the side once the new iPhones hit.

And then the next iPads will come out and the cycle will continue.
Yeah, I agree. And Apple wouldn't have it any other way. They'd love for their consumers to alternate their hype for their yearly revisions of both the iPhone and iPad and buy them both each and every year.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: ManaByte on April 09, 2010, 02:56:17 AM
Data won't share his iPad with Q:
(http://fidgit.com/assets_c/2010/04/We_Rule_Q_Data-thumb-305x305-36745.jpg)
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Ichirou on April 09, 2010, 02:59:38 AM
Data won't share his iPad with Q:
(http://fidgit.com/assets_c/2010/04/We_Rule_Q_Data-thumb-305x305-36745.jpg)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Rman on April 09, 2010, 03:10:09 AM
Oh, man, I feel old now.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: M3wThr33 on April 09, 2010, 04:31:45 AM
Does Apple still make computers?

Every 3 months they 'refresh' their laptops with like an extra 10GB of hard drive space or a little more ram or a better graphics card. Or something minor. That's how you upgrade a Mac.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 09, 2010, 12:27:57 PM
I would say a new OS, but not 11...still X.  Snow Leopard is great but its basically a speed-only refinement.  I'm sure 10.7 will do some cooler things.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: M3wThr33 on April 10, 2010, 05:10:30 PM
I would say a new OS, but not 11...still X.  Snow Leopard is great but its basically a speed-only refinement.  I'm sure 10.7 will do some cooler things.

10.6 was a bug fix release and it was still buggy. My favorite 'feature' was how people thought they gained a ton of hard drive space, because it changed from reporting Megabytes to Mebibytes, so that's a 2.4% increase.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Rman on April 10, 2010, 05:13:59 PM
Does Apple still make computers?

Every 3 months they 'refresh' their laptops with like an extra 10GB of hard drive space or a little more ram or a better graphics card. Or something minor. That's how you upgrade a Mac.
You can upgrade a MacBook or MacBook Pro pretty easily.  They accept standard ram and HDs, both Solid State and conventional.  Did Apple kill your dog, Mew? 
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 10, 2010, 05:17:38 PM
I would say a new OS, but not 11...still X.  Snow Leopard is great but its basically a speed-only refinement.  I'm sure 10.7 will do some cooler things.

10.6 was a bug fix release and it was still buggy. My favorite 'feature' was how people thought they gained a ton of hard drive space, because it changed from reporting Megabytes to Mebibytes, so that's a 2.4% increase.

What bigs do you speak of?  I haven't encountered anything buggy.  And fuck, dude, give some of us a little more credit–I knew about the mebibyte shit and didn't care.  10.6 is great for its 64bit features, even if it isn't as widespread as it should be.

You are such an angry person when it comes to Apple.  I don't understand why either side of the aisle gives two one hundredths of a percent of a shit about this.

aka qq
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: M3wThr33 on April 10, 2010, 05:28:34 PM
I got tired of people shitting all over Vista like it was even as close to as bad as ME.

Apple's not perfect. Their shit is great, if you can afford it.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: ManaByte on April 10, 2010, 05:42:20 PM
Win7 > OSX. Truth.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 10, 2010, 06:09:03 PM
They're both better at certain things than the other.  Shocking.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Cheebs on April 10, 2010, 06:12:24 PM
Win7 > OSX. Truth.
It depends on what you want out of a OS. Definitive fanboyish declarations are silly.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: The Dark Shake 3000 on April 11, 2010, 11:58:26 PM
(http://static.businessinsider.com/image/4bbf279f7f8b9a4573770400/ipad-stand-fail.jpg)

Amazing. Apple diehards truly know how to get the best out of their overpriced gear. :rock
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Tieno on April 12, 2010, 02:59:58 AM
I love my macbook pro, I've been recommending it to everyone. For basic media and internet use it's the best thing out there. I have far less problems organizing photos, music, docs and apps than I did on my windows machine. Spaces and expose is so ingrained in how I navigate a computer that when every time I'm on a windows machine I automatically go for the hotcorners (active screen corners) to try and go to another window or program, then I have to adjust to more pedestrian navigation. What I'd like for os x however is that W7 ability of fixing a window to half the screen, handy for comparing docs.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: huckleberry on April 12, 2010, 07:10:33 AM
http://www.irradiatedsoftware.com/cinch/ (http://www.irradiatedsoftware.com/cinch/)

Try Cinch, it might be what you are looking for.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: M3wThr33 on April 17, 2010, 12:32:27 AM
http://gizmodo.com/5519309/one-of-the-worst-ways-to-introduce-yourself

(http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb225/M3wThr33/500x_original_02.jpg)

THIS is why I hate Apple so much. People wasting money on a fucking $500 Name Tag. They're idiots.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Cormacaroni on April 17, 2010, 01:29:58 AM
Unlike YOU, using your PC to post on Evilbore n'shit!

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Post by: brawndolicious on April 17, 2010, 03:41:29 AM
:lol
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: pilonv1 on April 17, 2010, 04:11:34 AM
:lol amazing.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: naff on April 19, 2010, 08:59:29 AM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9NP-AeKX40&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]

 :lol
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on April 19, 2010, 06:21:53 PM
Looks like the HP Slate is shaping up to be a big pile of crap:

http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/hp-slate-leaks-its-way-into-the-wild-meh/

Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Arbys Roast Beef Sandwich on April 19, 2010, 06:33:30 PM
I want one of these shitty Chinese knockoff tablets just for comics and stuff:

http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/06/firstviews-95-android-windows-ce-pc607v-tips-a-craptablet-ic/
http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/keepin-it-real-fake-moonse-ipad-knockoff-loses-a-few-inches-r/
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on April 19, 2010, 06:42:38 PM
yeah, those are the kind i could see actually taking out of the house to mess around with, and not caring too much if it got banged up
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: huckleberry on April 19, 2010, 06:57:29 PM
I decided to go with a 32gb WiFi only model seeing as I don't really plan on taking it out of the house that much.  I got it last Friday - after a week I can sum it up by saying that I think its awesome, but not a necessity. 

+ Great to read with. I put a couple of ebook on it that I already "owned" and they worked perfectly.

+ browsing on it is pretty slick. I use it for all my rss, Twitter, and news feeds and it works like a champ.  No need to turn on the RoG Laptop. Checking and sending email with it works great too.  That instant on shit is awesome compare to a normal computer.

+ it is super responsive and typing on it is easy as hell. 

+ battery life is great.  I have all push notifications and everything turned on - even using wifi non stop it lasts forever. Big plus in my opinion.

- big negative is the glossy screen.  It is one thing to have a glossy screen on a laptop - but this is ridiculous.  need anti-glare screen ASAP.

- iphone apps look like shit, complete shit.  Some games don't look that bad but for the most part the whole being able to use iphone apps on it is useless.



Eel,
 reading comics on it is pretty sweet.  I only have the Marvel app right now but they all look super vibrant and tapping on the panels to enlarge them works like a charm.  I have The Walking Dead on my computer and need to find a good comic app to see how it looks.



Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on April 19, 2010, 07:31:09 PM
Sounds awesome!  I played with one for a few minutes at Best Buy.  I was with other people so I didn't get to mess with it too much (no Marvel app for me to try), but I played a little Plants vs. Zombies and some Real Racing, and those were both very pretty and controlled well.  Checked out iBooks and that was pretty damned slick, too.  Didn't have a problem with much glare on the screen even standing under all those retail store lights, but I'll probably get a matte screen protector.  Initial impressions were - yeah, it's a big iPod Touch, but its a big FAST iPod Touch with a great screen and which does a lot of cool shit tailored specifically for the device.

Shame about the HP Slate, cramming that Atom in there was probably a mistake.  They should've bumped the RAM up to 2 GB, as well.  Win7 will probably run fine on it (runs fine on my netbook), but once you fire up a processor-intensive program it's gonna start to chug and chew through the battery in a couple of hours.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: huckleberry on April 19, 2010, 09:41:00 PM
The battery life on the ipad is one of the things that impressed me the most.  It really does last a long time - the reviews weren't lying.  and they weren't lying about it being a fingerprint magnet either.

I got the 32gb, but honestly I could have done with the 16.  With AirVideo app and other programs to access files on your normal computer alot of storage just isn't necessary - at least not for me. 
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on April 19, 2010, 10:09:31 PM
yeah, if it's mainly going to be used as an in-house entertainment device, i should be fine with the 16GB
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: TripleA on April 20, 2010, 07:21:16 PM
Win7 > OSX. Truth.

Opinion.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on April 30, 2010, 03:18:02 PM
hp slate probably canned

http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/30/hp-slate-killed-rumor-mill-says-yes/
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 30, 2010, 03:20:11 PM
HP Slate running WebOS announced next month
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on April 30, 2010, 03:27:47 PM
haha, probably

would certainly work better for the device, win7 plus atom plus dinky ram was the killer there
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: demi on May 01, 2010, 01:56:43 AM
omg does it seriously autograph each post with that. i saw it on someones facebook too.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: AdmiralViscen on May 01, 2010, 07:11:22 AM
 :lol
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Don Flamenco on May 01, 2010, 04:08:41 PM
HP Slate and MS Courier both canned since the iPad launch.  Slate...whatever. 

But the Courier had potential, I think.  Apparently, they didn't really know where to target it?  That doesn't make much sense to me.  Apple put out the iPhone and the app store, then let independent devs create whatever they could out of it.  MS really just needed to have a few of the usual productivity apps, then let everyone else run wild with it.  Sell things via an XBL type market.  It was different enough from the iPad to compete.  Dual screen tablet was a hot idea. 

Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on May 01, 2010, 04:28:40 PM
Pretty hard to judge the wisdom of cancelling a project without knowing what the actual state of the project was.  I doubt they were ever planning on supporting third-party apps to begin with, though.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: brawndolicious on May 01, 2010, 10:59:34 PM
Pretty hard to judge the wisdom of cancelling a project without knowing what the actual state of the project was.  I doubt they were ever planning on supporting third-party apps to begin with, though.
would those really be a defining factor to a touch pad e-book type of device?
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on May 02, 2010, 12:16:58 AM
it's more that releasing a platform is a much bigger job than releasing a standalone device.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: brawndolicious on May 02, 2010, 12:32:50 AM
oh I see.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Van Cruncheon on May 02, 2010, 10:23:05 PM
just got me a 32gb 3g one. it is total sexhurt. it is the gadget equivalent of cumming inside your hot and sassy twin sister.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 02, 2010, 10:48:38 PM
I'm interested...
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: MCD on May 02, 2010, 10:50:29 PM
just got me a 32gb 3g one. it is total sexhurt. it is the gadget equivalent of cumming inside your hot and sassy twin sister.

sounds like a psp go!
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Van Cruncheon on May 02, 2010, 10:53:53 PM
no, a pspgo is like cumming inside a filthy hobo. it's strangely satisfying in the moment, but you'll never escape the stench of the whole enterprise.
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Post by: MCD on May 02, 2010, 10:56:28 PM
:fbm
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Raban on May 02, 2010, 11:29:05 PM
no, a pspgo is like cumming inside a filthy hobo. it's strangely satisfying in the moment, but you'll never escape the stench of the whole enterprise.

:rofl
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: naff on May 03, 2010, 12:00:35 AM
no, a pspgo is like cumming inside a filthy hobo. it's strangely satisfying in the moment, but you'll never escape the stench of the whole enterprise.

:rofl

 :-\ I just realised I don't stomach filthy cum/sex jokes too well. Aside from that, I'm starting to want a iPad... And I was really against them when they first were announced. I mean, I buy tech for entertainment at home predominantly and out of any Apple product this seems like the most suited for that function (I have never bought any Apple products apart from an iPod 2g. Used to program on a macbook for work but apart from that never seen the reason).
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: etiolate on May 03, 2010, 01:43:05 AM
oh my, dont "start wanting an ipad" when there is no reason to need one

put down the consumer crack

Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: naff on May 03, 2010, 12:14:36 PM
I don't actually need any of the tech I own right now apart from my trusty old thinkpad, my modem and router and my cellphone. Unnecessary and awesome aren't mutually exclusive. Once this hits NZ I'll eventually drop some change on the 16gb non-3g version.
Title: Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
Post by: Arbys Roast Beef Sandwich on May 04, 2010, 03:21:05 PM
just got me a 32gb 3g one. it is total sexhurt. it is the gadget equivalent of cumming inside your hot and sassy twin sister.
I'm interested...

nice :lol