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« Reply #35820 on: December 30, 2019, 05:11:33 PM »
It's weird to presume that every movie goer would be familar with the events sorrounding Manson and I assume the movie will age worse than Django and IB because of it. Still many standalone scenes were amazing. :trumps
Not really the movie's fault.
You wouldn't complain about Ida needing some historical context to be understood, for example.
That's true for every piece of art, really.

Old art, literature, etc. usually comes with something or someone explaining you the context. Certain historical backdrops for movies don't need further explaining currently - i.e. something like general knowledge of WW2 is basic education. Yet if people didn't follow the marketing of OUATIH and just went to see it, one third of the movie might fly over their head and not because they are too dumb.
I'm not faulting anyone for not knowing about Charles Manson or Sharon Tate, but it's still not the movie's responsibility to take you by the hand through every cultural reference.
Watch the movie, read on the thing, rewatch it again, if anything.

Also the cultural context you mention being basic education varies from to culture to culture, so when you watch foreign movies you miss A LOT of cultural elements that could be assumed to be understood.

You can watch something like Jia Zhangke's Still Life without knowing anything about Three Gorges Dam and all that shit (which in the west is certainly less common knowledge than goddamn Charles Manson  :P) and miss many aspects of the plot.
Of course with Tarantino, quotationism is integral part of his signature style, so going in you should expect it to be the case.

More generally speaking, i think movies have a problem of explaining themselves too much, if anything, because the audience is expected to watch them once and move on to the next thing, which makes for very dull art all around.
Having to watch a movie more than once to fully grasp it is a feature, not a bug.

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« Reply #35821 on: December 30, 2019, 07:11:56 PM »
Fantastic opening credits though:



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« Reply #35822 on: December 30, 2019, 07:17:02 PM »
Both the biggest flaw and strength of OUATIH is that it could've continued for another 6 - 10 hours of just following the antics of Rick Dalton and Cliff Booth.
Arguably the weakest part of the movie is when they return from Italy and the movie goes montage: "At XX PM the following and following happened".
While a song which sounds something like: "We're running out of time" plays in the background. It picks up right at the great finale again.

I guess to like the movie you have to like the Rick Dalton and Cliff Booth characters though.
If you don't care for them there's not much that will keep you hooked.

The biggest flaw of OUATIH is that Brad Pitt didn’t kick the shit out of you in it.

Also, Dead Ringers is like Cronenberg’s 2nd-3rd best. The background and true story it’s very loosely based on are also fun to look into.
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« Reply #35823 on: December 30, 2019, 09:15:47 PM »
It's weird to presume that every movie goer would be familar with the events sorrounding Manson and I assume the movie will age worse than Django and IB because of it. Still many standalone scenes were amazing. :trumps
Not really the movie's fault.
You wouldn't complain about Ida needing some historical context to be understood, for example.
That's true for every piece of art, really.

Old art, literature, etc. usually comes with something or someone explaining you the context. Certain historical backdrops for movies don't need further explaining currently - i.e. something like general knowledge of WW2 is basic education. Yet if people didn't follow the marketing of OUATIH and just went to see it, one third of the movie might fly over their head and not because they are too dumb.
I'm not faulting anyone for not knowing about Charles Manson or Sharon Tate, but it's still not the movie's responsibility to take you by the hand through every cultural reference.
Watch the movie, read on the thing, rewatch it again, if anything.

Also the cultural context you mention being basic education varies from to culture to culture, so when you watch foreign movies you miss A LOT of cultural elements that could be assumed to be understood.

You can watch something like Jia Zhangke's Still Life without knowing anything about Three Gorges Dam and all that shit (which in the west is certainly less common knowledge than goddamn Charles Manson  :P) and miss many aspects of the plot.
Of course with Tarantino, quotationism is integral part of his signature style, so going in you should expect it to be the case.

More generally speaking, i think movies have a problem of explaining themselves too much, if anything, because the audience is expected to watch them once and move on to the next thing, which makes for very dull art all around.
Having to watch a movie more than once to fully grasp it is a feature, not a bug.

This isn't some Asian movie though, but one made for Western audiences right now. Also what makes it weird is how low key the major references are. When you watch a movie about like a historical event in South East Asia, you at least understand what to look up afterwards. If you knew nothing about OUATIH beforehand, you might miss that it is about Manson altogether, let alone even recognize that a "twist" happened in the end.

Honestly, it also hurts the plot in-universe, that it relies so much on the audience knowing the Manson family. Those hippies are Scooby-Doo-tier goofs by the end, which makes Pitt's and DeCaprio's reactions at the end completely unrealistic (even drugged up). They don't know that they are dealing with insane murderers from "our history", all they see is incompetent edgy kids. This is again something not problematic for Django or IB, because you don't have to explain why nazis or slave owners are bad to the characters in-universe (nor the movie audience).
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« Reply #35824 on: December 30, 2019, 09:25:20 PM »
I'd go as far as to say that (unfortunately) the way she died was the most memorable aspect of Sharon Tate's life, so if you Google her name or even Polanski's you'll hardly miss the topic of Helter Skelter and the Manson family.
That said, the fact that the horror remains an unspoken, looming, unacknowledged threat throughout the film, it's why it works so well in my opinion (compared to something like Inglorious Basterds, which uses a similar, but worse expedient).

If it makes the movie esoteric so be it, not everything has to be designed to digestible by the largest group possible, and those that care can look it up and try and enjoy the movie on a deeper level on a second viewing.
As i said i think a certain level of "cultural selection", for lack of a better term, is implicit in art.

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« Reply #35825 on: December 31, 2019, 03:04:59 AM »
Finally got around to seeing Dead Ringers and, after having also seen that one where Christopher Walken can see the future, I think it's safe to say that emotional content is not Cronenberg's strong suit.

Dead Ringers didn't do anything for me but I saw it a long time ago. Dead Zone is pretty good though.
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« Reply #35826 on: December 31, 2019, 06:26:23 AM »
Uncut Gems

Succeds in having you the edge of your seat. Adam Sandler's character being such a fuck up helps with that. Everyone in the movie is such an unlikeable son of a bitch :lol

Secretly one of the best intro CGI montages of he year. Nice relaxing OST that I don't know if it necessarily fits, but it sure is tasty. Really ought to check out the artist's discography.

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« Reply #35827 on: December 31, 2019, 01:15:03 PM »
Star Wars ep 9

Not nearly as bad as I expected going in. Pretty fun on its own, but so much that bums me out as a concluding episode to this trilogy and even how it dips into the OG trilogy. There should have been an actual plan for episodes 8 and 9 instead of what happened. I mean ep 7 even leaves everything pretty much open for you to do that. Here is your new cast of baddies and goodies and now write the next two episodes about them in a nice coherent follow up 2 piece. But ep 9 and 8 are almost like 2 siblings fighting over the TV remote.

Fucking Palpatine. *sigh*

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« Reply #35828 on: December 31, 2019, 06:11:24 PM »
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« Reply #35829 on: January 01, 2020, 09:19:32 PM »
Uncut Gems

Succeds in having you the edge of your seat. Adam Sandler's character being such a fuck up helps with that. Everyone in the movie is such an unlikeable son of a bitch :lol

Secretly one of the best intro CGI montages of he year. Nice relaxing OST that I don't know if it necessarily fits, but it sure is tasty. Really ought to check out the artist's discography.

Hmmm.... I'm not sure I could stand watching Adam Sandler for 2 hours.

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« Reply #35830 on: January 02, 2020, 06:32:02 AM »
X-Men: Dark Phoenix: missed the summer release so I caught it on a streaming service. I gotta say the movie isn't that much worse than your average action hero flick and I enjoyed most of it like I do other comic book action movies. However, about 75% of the way in you can see they did some re-shoots and put in a different ending. The first thing I did after I watched it was to search for an alternative ending because the ending felt so out of place. And lo and behold, they did change the ending. The movie does little to develop the cool things that are set-up. Magneto teaming up with Beast could be an interesting twist but it is not developed further beyond a single scene. The evil shape shifting bad guys never so something 'really' evil or use their powers to get ahead beyond taking on a different form so they can talk to Jean. The whole thing feels very low budget too. Very few locations, confined spaces and cheap looking CG. After Apocalypse and this, the series is a long way from the quality of Days of Future of Past.

Dolemite Is My Name: Now this was a good movie. Eddie Murphy plays Dolemite very convincingly and the story overall is so cray that it is sometimes hard to believe it actually happened but most of it did. If you want some good vibes watch this movie. The only thing that doesn't land anymore is some of the early stand-up comedy because we live in different times now and this art has been developed way beyond what Mr. Dolemite did. But once they start making the Dolemite movie and all the other characters are added to his group it's hilarious. Overall a very fun and inspiring film that I think can be enjoyed by almost anyone.
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« Reply #35831 on: January 02, 2020, 09:10:50 AM »
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The whole thing feels very low budget too. Very few locations, confined spaces and cheap looking CG.

My feeling too. Also, you can tell Kinberg is a first time director, there's no criss-crossing plotlines (there is when Jean leaves Mags and teams up with the aliens, but that lasts like 10 minutes?) Just a single plotline that plays out, scene after scene after linear scene. There's no excitement or dynamism, and really not as as much character development to make up for it as I anticipated.

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« Reply #35832 on: January 02, 2020, 09:21:43 AM »
Wanted to re-read what I thought right after seeing it in the theater, yeah, I had the same complaints then too.

Dark Phoenix

[Mild spoilers but it really doesn't matter]

Blah. I was expecting so much more -- and I'm someone who walked away satisfied after Apocalypse. It feels like a first draft or first-year writer's work. "This happens, and then this happens, and then this happens."

It's all so... flat. There's no dramatic criss-crossing between plots or characters, no dynamism or dramatic thrust. The editing literally ends and starts whole scenes in sequence like a factory made the film. And the "action" is probably the worst it's been in the series... just, boring and lifeless feeling.

I also caught McAvoy's accent slipping up a bit, or his inflections not matching the consistency he had in First Class/DoFP/Apoc.

The ending makes no sense and I'm not happy with Xavier being booted out of his whole school, made out to be a public failure, and basically the whole movie's plot kicking off cause of his hubris... There was potential to show a real character arc for him, but as it is in the movie it feels so half-assed and rushed. And McAvoy acts him with almost too much conviction and no remorse in some scenes, which feels like a minor betrayal of his character as portrayed in the three previous movies.

The only "oh shit" moment of the movie comes from my favorite character in the past two movies, Nightcrawler. When he bamfs that chick in front of the train, I was like "Fuuuuck yeah." But a movie like this needs one of those at least every half hour, if not every 10-15 minutes (when Infinity War got rolling it felt like every 5-10 mins there was a moment like that.)

I'm giving Kinberg the benefit of the doubt on the editing and action, but there's no reason the plot has to be so... threadbare. Like they literally put everything in the trailers, and what's left is just the glue between those scenes. And there's nothing interesting in the glue of this movie ("glue" can be interesting and entertaining, see Godfather, etc.) I was like "OK the trailers show some pretty tame stuff for an all-powerful cosmic entity, but surely it's just cause the trailer doesn't include the final battle."

I actually ready the plot of this movie ahead of time to prepare myself, and even I'm baffled at how quickly the "final confrontation" plays out (after Jean lands the train.) Poochie Phoenix went back to his her home planet, I guess.

Also they never even say "Genosha" in the film, wtf. If Apoc was a glutton that vomited on people nonstop, Dark Phoenix is the starving child dying of ebola.

2 / 5

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« Reply #35833 on: January 02, 2020, 09:23:56 AM »
Also the alt ending was the aliens attack the UN and Jean has to go up to space and battle their armada.

I can see the Captain Marvel comparisons but man the leaked shots we have look so much better than a fucking train at goddamn night, ugh.

At least we got that rad Nightcrawler murder rampage from it I guess...

Trailer shots, leaked pics and concept art of the original ending:















https://twitter.com/The_Meatball_84/status/1138940868092731392
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« Reply #35834 on: January 02, 2020, 09:55:44 AM »
That looks so much better than what we got.
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« Reply #35835 on: January 02, 2020, 10:17:15 AM »
Considering how consistently stingey Disney is with alternate cuts, I doubt we'll ever see a "Rogue Cut" situation again where they release what they originally had just for the hell of it.

A lot of the effects for the original climax seemed pretty far along too, but obviously it's impossible to know for sure.

A poster on SuperHeroHype said that the UN set was so big and expensive it was literally impossible to reassemble it in time for the reshoots they eventually realized they needed, so Kinberg said fuck it and wrote the train sequence instead. Still cost Fox a pretty penny though.

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« Reply #35836 on: January 02, 2020, 12:24:52 PM »

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« Reply #35837 on: January 02, 2020, 12:26:39 PM »
Considering how consistently stingey Disney is with alternate cuts, I doubt we'll ever see a "Rogue Cut" situation again where they release what they originally had just for the hell of it.

For MCU stuff I don't think its stinginess, it's that it introduces non-canonical stuff.  I think it's hard to do alt versions when the movies don't live by themselves. 

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« Reply #35838 on: January 02, 2020, 12:35:15 PM »
I'm going with the difficulty of modern film making, especially in post-production.

The original star wars could be saved in the edit. They could use some left over footage, reverse, copy, paste etc. .
For other movies in the past that was also possible. If the movie didn't work, you could just shoot a few more dialogue scenes and rearrange some footage.

Now, the end result of most movies only becomes clear in post-production. The movie doesn't take shape until all the CG has been edited in.
So even if the parts during filming seemed good, you don't know how it'll end up in the final film until the last months of production.
Given the fact that these type of movies usually went through multiple writers, actors, delays etc. before anything is even filmed there just isn't enough time or budget to 're-do' most if not all of the post-production work.

Movies like Dark Phoenix and The Rise of Skywalker are Plan E. After A,B,C,D hit a snag along the way.
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« Reply #35839 on: January 02, 2020, 12:43:41 PM »
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Now, the end result of most movies only becomes clear in post-production. The movie doesn't take shape until all the CG has been edited in.

This is only true if you don't have a plan, and the lack of a plan will fuck over any production tbh.

Some directors work well shooting a lot and making the movie in the editing room (George Romero fits in this category.) But for the most part, a film production is like a machine, and you need some hard schematics if you're going to get anything to work right.

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« Reply #35840 on: January 02, 2020, 12:46:15 PM »
What fucked over TRoS is what fucked over the DCEU: rushing.

Iger had a wake up call with Solo but it was too late to stop the Skywalker Saga train I guess (even completely swapping out directors pre-production...)

Warners on the other hand seems to have learned though. Too well perhaps, it's hard to say when any of the DC movies are going to drop because aside from Wonder Woman they keep getting shuffled around or pushed back...

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« Reply #35841 on: January 02, 2020, 12:52:43 PM »
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Now, the end result of most movies only becomes clear in post-production. The movie doesn't take shape until all the CG has been edited in.

This is only true if you don't have a plan, and the lack of a plan will fuck over any production tbh.

Some directors work well shooting a lot and making the movie in the editing room (George Romero fits in this category.) But for the most part, a film production is like a machine, and you need some hard schematics if you're going to get anything to work right.
They could also try having more varied climaxes than, “big bunch of CG shit being crashes against each other for 15-20 minutes”.  Might make for easier fixes late into production.

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« Reply #35842 on: January 02, 2020, 01:32:00 PM »
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Now, the end result of most movies only becomes clear in post-production. The movie doesn't take shape until all the CG has been edited in.

This is only true if you don't have a plan, and the lack of a plan will fuck over any production tbh.

Some directors work well shooting a lot and making the movie in the editing room (George Romero fits in this category.) But for the most part, a film production is like a machine, and you need some hard schematics if you're going to get anything to work right.
They could also try having more varied climaxes than, “big bunch of CG shit being crashes against each other for 15-20 minutes”.  Might make for easier fixes late into production.

Maybe. On the flipside, I could see doing an all/mostly-CG ending being easier in some cases than wrangling a group big-name actors together at the same time for a bunch of scenes when they've all moved onto other projects six months ago.

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« Reply #35843 on: January 02, 2020, 03:34:39 PM »
I think most recent MCU (at least the last 2 Avengers movies) mix ruthlessly worked over and polished scripts with some improvised banter so everything doesn't feel so stiff. There really is very little left on the cutting room floor except for alternative takes of existing scenes.

Don't know how much of an exception those movies are though since herding and coordinating so many actors requires a tight script, but I think it generally applies to most of their recent movies. (IM 2 for example was a mess with an unfinished script)
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« Reply #35844 on: January 02, 2020, 04:22:42 PM »

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« Reply #35845 on: January 02, 2020, 06:06:33 PM »
Watched 15mn of the Michael Bay film for Netflix, Six Underground and huh, wow... He's really cribbing every obnoxious trick in his bag and from everyone's book. It's a pandering monstrosity.

My thoughts when watching this ridiculous opening setpiece : "Man I would like to watch Armor of God right now."
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« Reply #35846 on: January 02, 2020, 06:50:27 PM »
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« Reply #35847 on: January 02, 2020, 07:06:28 PM »
The Battle Angel Alita movie was genuinely terrible. 


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« Reply #35849 on: January 02, 2020, 07:31:02 PM »
Annihilation: From the dude that did the Ex Machina movie so I expected fire. Great performance by Natalie Portman and a very engaging story about a strange phenomenon which changes the nature and evolution of a large area. Some deeper layers in terms of her relationship and motivations which were very well executed. All that is good. What is less good is parts of the sort of girl scout adventure in this 'changed' area including her companions of whom none were very interesting or engaging. Overall a solid movie if you like Sci-Fi thrillers but not nearly as good(or smart) as Ex Machina. 
 
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« Reply #35850 on: January 02, 2020, 07:44:52 PM »
Annihilation had more thought-provoking ideas and images for me than Ex Machina, which while great is kinda Babby's First Asimov with really slick direction and performances.

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« Reply #35851 on: January 03, 2020, 01:46:08 AM »
The last chronovore post I read was the one above and it was fucking trash :rage
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« Reply #35853 on: January 03, 2020, 08:06:00 AM »
Both the biggest flaw and strength of OUATIH is that it could've continued for another 6 - 10 hours of just following the antics of Rick Dalton and Cliff Booth.
Arguably the weakest part of the movie is when they return from Italy and the movie goes montage: "At XX PM the following and following happened".
While a song which sounds something like: "We're running out of time" plays in the background. It picks up right at the great finale again.

I guess to like the movie you have to like the Rick Dalton and Cliff Booth characters though.
If you don't care for them there's not much that will keep you hooked.

That's also the cheesiest part of Hateful 8, when it breaks out into overt exposition. I know Tarantino can put a story together, so I'm baffled why the 4th wall breaking narrator is needed.

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« Reply #35854 on: January 03, 2020, 12:17:04 PM »
All Lovecraft stories are genuinely good. 

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« Reply #35855 on: January 03, 2020, 03:35:01 PM »
Annihilation had more thought-provoking ideas and images for me than Ex Machina, which while great is kinda Babby's First Asimov with really slick direction and performances.
I agree, though i wouldn't even call it "great".
Annihilation was way more interesting, if anything from a visual standpoint.

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« Reply #35856 on: January 03, 2020, 07:43:35 PM »
Zombieland 2: As a fan of Zombieland I expected great things from 2 but I'm somewhat disappointed. The movie isn't bad but it doesn't do anything interesting with any of the new characters or ideas. So the movie remains anchored around the characters of Woody Harrelson, Emma Stone and Jesse Eisenberg for the most part. It's kinda weird that it has some good set-ups and lands practically none of them. When they start calling a type of Zombie the T-800 you just expect like an Arnold zombie to show up but nothing like that happens. At some point they arrive at Graceland. Which is Elvis's former home. Of course you'd expect there to be Elvis zombies but no such thing happens either. The final scene is also never as tense or exciting as the theme park ending of the first movie was. So yeah, this is a big step down from the first movie for me. The motivations of the characters are also more real, which is way less fun than Woody mowing through zombies trying to find a Twinkie.
An enjoyable mediocre 90 minutes of film if you liked the first movie but if you skip it you won't miss anything.
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« Reply #35857 on: January 03, 2020, 11:51:23 PM »
Loved The Irishman, though it did take almost exactly 5 hours to get through with all my pausing lol.

Definitely like it more than The Wolf of Wall Street (DeNiro has an actual arc and you actually feel kinda feel bad for him at the end, unlike Leo), but probably not as rewatchable. I forgot how much I missed Pesci. It was a little hard buying DeNiro at his youngest (Pesci calls him "kid" in a scene and it was pretty jarring for me), but otherwise the de-aging was phenomenal.

Adrenaline was spiking as soon as DeNiro got on that plane. Soooooo good.

Despite all the breaks I really enjoyed the pacing of this movie, it was pitch perfect. Unfortunately real life gets in the way sometimes but that's what pause is for. :P

Now I want to rewatch Casino and Goodfellas.

5 / 5

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« Reply #35858 on: January 04, 2020, 02:34:28 AM »
Finally got around to watching JOKER and god damn, what a fucking fantastic movie.
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« Reply #35859 on: January 04, 2020, 08:24:35 AM »
https://www.indiewire.com/2020/01/star-wars-rise-of-skywalker-cut-explaining-palpatine-return-1202200307/

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‘Rise of Skywalker’ Cut Info Explaining Palpatine’s Return Because ‘It Seemed to Go Off Topic’

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Yes, explaining how the fuck a character who was clearly atomized 30 years before, but somehow is still alive and the final boss of the entire trilogy, is "off topic" :neogaf

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« Reply #35860 on: January 04, 2020, 08:26:10 AM »
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I think we felt we didn’t want to clutter the film up with things
Now that worked out really well didn't it  8)
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« Reply #35861 on: January 04, 2020, 08:41:55 AM »
Obviously the multi-step fetch quest was a lot more important.

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« Reply #35862 on: January 04, 2020, 09:28:12 AM »
https://www.indiewire.com/2020/01/star-wars-rise-of-skywalker-cut-explaining-palpatine-return-1202200307/

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‘Rise of Skywalker’ Cut Info Explaining Palpatine’s Return Because ‘It Seemed to Go Off Topic’

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Yes, explaining how the fuck a character who was clearly atomized 30 years before, but somehow is still alive and the final boss of the entire trilogy, is "off topic" :neogaf

Did Disney make ANY good decisions with Star Wars?
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Re: Movie News, Reviews, and Discussion Super-Thread
« Reply #35863 on: January 04, 2020, 12:59:48 PM »
https://www.indiewire.com/2020/01/star-wars-rise-of-skywalker-cut-explaining-palpatine-return-1202200307/

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‘Rise of Skywalker’ Cut Info Explaining Palpatine’s Return Because ‘It Seemed to Go Off Topic’

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Yes, explaining how the fuck a character who was clearly atomized 30 years before, but somehow is still alive and the final boss of the entire trilogy, is "off topic" :neogaf

Did Disney make ANY good decisions with Star Wars?
Yes. Soccer ball robot

Raist

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Re: Movie News, Reviews, and Discussion Super-Thread
« Reply #35864 on: January 04, 2020, 01:31:49 PM »
https://www.indiewire.com/2020/01/star-wars-rise-of-skywalker-cut-explaining-palpatine-return-1202200307/

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‘Rise of Skywalker’ Cut Info Explaining Palpatine’s Return Because ‘It Seemed to Go Off Topic’

 :lol :lol :lol

Yes, explaining how the fuck a character who was clearly atomized 30 years before, but somehow is still alive and the final boss of the entire trilogy, is "off topic" :neogaf

Did Disney make ANY good decisions with Star Wars?


Financially, yeah. Other than that, not really.

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Re: Movie News, Reviews, and Discussion Super-Thread
« Reply #35865 on: January 04, 2020, 01:35:02 PM »
https://www.indiewire.com/2020/01/star-wars-rise-of-skywalker-cut-explaining-palpatine-return-1202200307/

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‘Rise of Skywalker’ Cut Info Explaining Palpatine’s Return Because ‘It Seemed to Go Off Topic’

 :lol :lol :lol

Yes, explaining how the fuck a character who was clearly atomized 30 years before, but somehow is still alive and the final boss of the entire trilogy, is "off topic" :neogaf

Did Disney make ANY good decisions with Star Wars?

Not resurrecting Carrie Fischer's corpse Tarkin-style for TRoS.

Also I like JJ had a focus on making Leia full Jedi in this, even if the execution was necessarily a mess.

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« Reply #35866 on: January 04, 2020, 05:11:29 PM »
I have a feeling that 1917 isn't going to pass the Bechdel test

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« Reply #35867 on: January 04, 2020, 06:07:09 PM »
Watched a re-run of Hateful Eight, first time since it came out. I still have the same problems as in the past. Roth as faux-Waltz is just off-putting, so is Tarantino's narration. The first half wants to be a mystery movie, but doesn't have a mystery, nor engaging dialogue. And I just don't like the Western looks. However, the negative made me forget about all the highs that the movie also has. Everything with Sam Jackson is straight 10/10  :lol Completely forgot about the BBC.

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« Reply #35868 on: January 04, 2020, 07:47:21 PM »
https://www.indiewire.com/2020/01/star-wars-rise-of-skywalker-cut-explaining-palpatine-return-1202200307/

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‘Rise of Skywalker’ Cut Info Explaining Palpatine’s Return Because ‘It Seemed to Go Off Topic’

 :lol :lol :lol

Yes, explaining how the fuck a character who was clearly atomized 30 years before, but somehow is still alive and the final boss of the entire trilogy, is "off topic" :neogaf

Did Disney make ANY good decisions with Star Wars?

Not resurrecting Carrie Fischer's corpse Tarkin-style for TRoS.

Also I like JJ had a focus on making Leia full Jedi in this, even if the execution was necessarily a mess.
Yet the whole point was that Luke was "The Last Jedi".
It even went as far as to send Rey away from Leia so she could train with Luke.
While all this time Leia could've trained Rey before fetching Luke or Poe could've just picked him up while she trained Rey.

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« Reply #35869 on: January 04, 2020, 08:01:51 PM »
Getting Luke back to the Rebellion was a bigger priority than Rey's training. That part makes sense. And it's not like Leia was as good as Luke anyways, she was clearly the backup since Luke bit the dust in TLJ.

Your complaint doesn't hold together when thinking about it.

Raist

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« Reply #35870 on: January 05, 2020, 02:30:13 AM »
Rey didn't need training anyway. She figured out fingertip zaps and healing/resurrection on her own.

Leia being an actual Jedi was about as relevant to the plot as Chewie getting his medal from 30y prior.

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« Reply #35871 on: January 05, 2020, 03:09:06 AM »
Just watched Ad Astra. What a fucking stupid movie. Had potential, but so many dumb parts, pointless parts, and parts that just had me shaking my head. I love space flicks. I hated this.
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Re: Movie News, Reviews, and Discussion Super-Thread
« Reply #35872 on: January 05, 2020, 08:43:16 PM »
 :respect only it's our dicks

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Re: Movie News, Reviews, and Discussion Super-Thread
« Reply #35873 on: January 05, 2020, 09:27:32 PM »

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« Reply #35874 on: January 05, 2020, 09:51:00 PM »
Ok, just finished Ad Astra. Movie was great. A little masturbatory, but that's fine. Didn't have a lot of extraneous scenes. Everything fit together quite nicely. One of the better space films of the past decade.

Only complaint is the overuse of narration. A better director could have done most of that with visual storytelling.

I liked it, too. Didn't quite nail everything it set out to do, but the theme of humanity ruining space by doing the same thing to it as we're doing to Earth was interesting to me. Tommy Lee Jones going space-crazy and getting rid of the infidels and unbelievers was also good.
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« Reply #35875 on: January 05, 2020, 10:01:19 PM »
Watched 15mn of the Michael Bay film for Netflix, Six Underground and huh, wow... He's really cribbing every obnoxious trick in his bag and from everyone's book. It's a pandering monstrosity.

My thoughts when watching this ridiculous opening setpiece : "Man I would like to watch Armor of God right now."

Yeah I made it through the intro and some of the setup after and just turned it off. It's so bad.
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« Reply #35877 on: January 06, 2020, 02:23:13 PM »
Watching Kill Chain, even for a Nicholas Cage film this is bad

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« Reply #35878 on: January 06, 2020, 05:13:18 PM »
PTA  :pimp
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Ghoul

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« Reply #35879 on: January 06, 2020, 05:31:54 PM »
Finally did a no phone, no distraction watch of the lighthouse, what an amazing character driven film.
Just such a good film, I’m shocked it is not up for any awards as the performances are truly spectacular.
Plus good tots mermaid is bae.