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Re: Magic: The Gathering
« Reply #2400 on: September 13, 2019, 04:32:22 PM »
I thought about that. I didn’t see there was an official response. :lol

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Speaking of which:

"2:1 Historic."
WTF Wizards.
"Ok, ok, we 'hear you', we'll 1:1 it!"

You've done this song and dance before, Wizards. At least 5 times now, are you sure this isn't planned on your part?

I mean, they're gonna try to get away with it if they can.
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« Reply #2401 on: September 13, 2019, 04:32:47 PM »
Mill is going to be a thing huh.

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« Reply #2402 on: September 13, 2019, 05:21:28 PM »
I mean, they're gonna try to get away with it if they can.

Oh, I know. But folks are rightly pissed and now they're licking Wizard's boots. It's infuriating. Demand them to do better. Don't fall for this shit.

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« Reply #2403 on: September 13, 2019, 07:11:48 PM »
Mill is going to be a thing huh.

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I don't think it counts as Mill if your primary win-con is a 5/4 flier.  :lol
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« Reply #2404 on: September 14, 2019, 12:38:10 AM »
Well, if you buff it I guess it could work. But I don't think that's the primary win-con with that combo. You get both of them out, tap Vantress for 1 draw, two turns later (unless you got them out at the same time which requires 4 mana), tap after vapping Vantress to do hand-mill while getting more lands to do deck-draw into hand-mill.

Honestly, I could see Folio of Fancies maybe working in a Forest-Island deck since Forest's generally gets "get a land card from your deck, shuffle your deck, and put it into the battlefield tapped/into your hand to use if you haven't put one out this turn" fast-mana-ramping. I could see the XX,T: Draw X cards ability being slightly scary if said ramp is able to be done fast and quick to get 10+ cards into hand to then dump 10+ mill within like 3-4 turns.

But that requires a shit ton of set-up, not having Artifact hate (and hasn't Planeswalkers basically replaced Artifacts/Enchantments anyway?), etc.

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« Reply #2405 on: September 19, 2019, 01:14:13 PM »
How is this a mythic.


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« Reply #2406 on: September 19, 2019, 01:25:09 PM »
Because they want people to confuse it for Vendilion Clique.
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« Reply #2407 on: September 20, 2019, 11:43:45 AM »
Mill is going to be a thing huh.
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Oh, yeah, baby.

https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/card-image-gallery/throne-eldraine

[[The Magic Mirror]], [[Into the Story]] (against Mono-Red, otherwise pointless), [[Opt]], [[Midnight Clock]], [[Mirrormade]]. Making me now want to make a Mill deck, fuck you Raist.

Because this would buckle to Artifact hate. But being able to do 10+ cards and counter them with free drawing at turn start to build up the mill... :lawd They try to counter my bullshit, Midnight Clock to reset the deck and continue to mill. :lawd :lawd

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« Reply #2408 on: September 20, 2019, 04:53:02 PM »

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« Reply #2409 on: September 20, 2019, 05:19:10 PM »
Gotta get them whales. :zzz
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« Reply #2410 on: September 20, 2019, 05:22:32 PM »
I do like some of the storybook art cards, but $450 for 16 packs plus some doodads is insane. That's a T1 standard deck or half a T1 Modern deck. One Collector's Edition pack is the MSRP price of 3 packs of Modern Masters. :lol
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« Reply #2411 on: September 20, 2019, 05:26:44 PM »
Gotta get them whales. :zzz

Yeah that's why part of me will never love magic. It's such a rort. You have to wonder what goes through the heads of the people who spend all this money and get nothing of value. I guess if they weren't buying this crap they just waste their money on different crap

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« Reply #2412 on: September 20, 2019, 11:50:25 PM »
I will be buying some cheap storybook singles like Shepherd of the Flock. I think it's deceptively powerful and possibly good enough for modern mono white sfm.dec. if not, it's still nice in a jank casual deck I play w colleagues.

I picked up a 4 pack of the brawl decks for arcane signets and some of the chase singles. So many bad cards though. they also have a huge shortage of the brawl decks (manufactured? or unintentional?) but I assume they'll re-up supply soon enough.
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« Reply #2413 on: September 30, 2019, 01:22:39 AM »
I continue to hate sealed format with all my heat.

>make deck
>it's already 30 cards
>wtf, this combo of knights takes up 80% of the deck
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« Reply #2414 on: September 30, 2019, 02:04:31 AM »


>get o.k pool
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« Reply #2415 on: September 30, 2019, 02:35:08 AM »
im sure having a wrath of god with a 7/7 attached for later cured a lot of ills....
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« Reply #2416 on: September 30, 2019, 02:42:04 AM »
To add to the shit Sundae that is this pre-release pack: I apparently got a Europe region Arena code. What the Christ, Wizards/FLGS.  :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :dead

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« Reply #2417 on: September 30, 2019, 02:46:44 AM »
im sure having a wrath of god with a 7/7 attached for later cured a lot of ills....

It didn't come in handy that often tbh. Lots of giants in this set

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« Reply #2418 on: September 30, 2019, 05:24:35 AM »
im sure having a wrath of god with a 7/7 attached for later cured a lot of ills....

It didn't come in handy that often tbh. Lots of giants in this set

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that sucks. wraths are typically so good in sealed, I didn't realise the giant clause was a big deal
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« Reply #2419 on: September 30, 2019, 05:48:13 AM »
im sure having a wrath of god with a 7/7 attached for later cured a lot of ills....

It didn't come in handy that often tbh. Lots of giants in this set

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that sucks. wraths are typically so good in sealed, I didn't realise the giant clause was a big deal

Only in the mirror match really

I nearly lost one of my games because I forgot it was non-giants and the guy had Bonecrusher Giant out though

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« Reply #2420 on: October 03, 2019, 12:49:05 PM »


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« Reply #2421 on: October 03, 2019, 12:58:45 PM »
Also, MTG fans getting triggered on Twitter are missing the point, the real outrage is that "Pony" isn't even a valid creature type in MTG. :trigger

"Oh yeah, what about Dwarven Pony?" It was errata'd into a horse!! Read Gatherer!  :ufup

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« Reply #2422 on: October 03, 2019, 04:43:33 PM »
The errata is to make it a creature, not a horse. :wag

"Summon Pony" -> "Creature - Horse."

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« Reply #2423 on: October 03, 2019, 05:25:52 PM »
Apparently both aggro and control suck and ramp is the place to be in the new standard??? I think I like G/B better than G/U, with Golgari colors you get Assassin's Trophy to kill fucking annoying Land of the Deads even if you lose out on Oko. And you can ramp into Liliana and the new Garruk in addition to Nissa.
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« Reply #2424 on: October 03, 2019, 05:56:27 PM »
you lose oko and krasis. i would be extremely surprised if UG is not the dominant colour pair this standard.
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« Reply #2425 on: October 03, 2019, 05:59:58 PM »
garruk is good, but meta dependant. oko and krasis are much better catch all answers. brazen borrower is also extremely good, and i know the ven clique comparison was made in jest before, but it's actually better in ramp than ven clique imo (actually makes a favourable comparison in a lot of decks).
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« Reply #2426 on: October 07, 2019, 09:54:29 AM »
...seems like ramp is king, which makes me sad because I hate it  :-\

Wish there was a good aggro deck
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« Reply #2427 on: October 07, 2019, 09:57:21 AM »
Also, MTG fans getting triggered on Twitter are missing the point, the real outrage is that "Pony" isn't even a valid creature type in MTG. :trigger

"Oh yeah, what about Dwarven Pony?" It was errata'd into a horse!! Read Gatherer!  :ufup

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When all Toads are Frogs  :stahp

Sure, whatever. I mean why even have cats? They've got four legs, just call them dogs, who gives a fuck anyway

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« Reply #2428 on: October 07, 2019, 10:39:35 AM »
In true Timmy fashion, I bought a couple of Collector's Edition packs at Wal-Mart this weekend. :lol They were $26 each.  :'( I do love the showcase frames. I think they're amazing. Prices of the singles are starting to tank online now that the set is out there and the initial hype is dying down, so don't think I'll be cracking anymore packs of that, but I do think it's a cool product that's way overpriced.
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« Reply #2429 on: October 07, 2019, 02:04:21 PM »
...seems like ramp is king, which makes me sad because I hate it  :-\

Wish there was a good aggro deck

Monogreen can be pretty mean, between Yorvo, Great henge, Questing beast etc.

Otherwise there's always the distinguished mentally-challenged fellowed mono-winonturnthree-red.

But yeah, ramp decks with Oko are just dumb. Completely busted planeswalker.


In true Timmy fashion, I bought a couple of Collector's Edition packs at Wal-Mart this weekend. :lol They were $26 each.  :'( I do love the showcase frames. I think they're amazing. Prices of the singles are starting to tank online now that the set is out there and the initial hype is dying down, so don't think I'll be cracking anymore packs of that, but I do think it's a cool product that's way overpriced.

Collector boxes have some massive sorting issues, so avoid single packs.

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« Reply #2430 on: October 07, 2019, 02:20:45 PM »
These were the cardboard pre-packaged packs.
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« Reply #2431 on: October 08, 2019, 12:55:55 PM »
FINE  :hmph

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« Reply #2432 on: October 08, 2019, 06:40:29 PM »
isn't winning on turn 3 with mono red dependent on 4 1 drops with haste into cavalcade atm?

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i like that cavalcade.dec punishes ramp.dec. there's a hope midrange will have a place in the meta. i haven't been playing much eld, but im keen to work on a more aggressive green midrange deck utilising the great henge to keep up the pressure.
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« Reply #2433 on: October 08, 2019, 08:57:11 PM »
Turn 3 Mono Red wins :rejoice

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« Reply #2434 on: October 09, 2019, 12:07:53 PM »
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« Reply #2435 on: October 10, 2019, 01:19:56 AM »
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« Reply #2436 on: October 10, 2019, 08:59:32 AM »
Forcing players to mainboard answers for the mirror match because a single game takes up the entire time for the round is just Magic the way Richard Garfield intended.
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« Reply #2437 on: October 10, 2019, 10:21:36 AM »
Good to see that play design has really been able to reign in the crazier ideas of r&d! (Fire Rosewater and Forsythe)
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« Reply #2438 on: October 14, 2019, 08:03:39 AM »
Cards like Field of Dead, Oko, Fires of Invention are just plain dumb. It's like they were designed by a bunch of 8yo who thought they'd be so cool, nevermind how completely broken they are.

I don't understand how they could possibly think giving a +1 to Oko that targets ANY artifact or creature and turn it into a vanilla 3/3 was a good idea :lol
Imagine if WAR Terefi's bounce was +1.

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« Reply #2439 on: October 14, 2019, 08:51:00 AM »
Letting Oko start with 6 loyalty is also pretty wtf. It’s a 3cmc walker, and I can’t even Fry it the turn it comes down?
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« Reply #2440 on: October 14, 2019, 08:58:49 AM »
Letting Oko start with 6 loyalty is also pretty wtf. It’s a 3cmc walker, and I can’t even Fry it the turn it comes down?

I mean, 3 cost aside: Isn't that the norm for most Walker's? You can't bolt them to death as soon as they come in?

If anything, I feel being able to +X on landing is a little dumb. I kinda get why (as the Planeswalkers are used to being "summon'd" to another plane/field) but balancing seems wonky.

You can put someone like Gideon down, +1 them into a 5/5 with indestructible until end of turn on their first turn and you can't really do shit about it (though that's apparently been Eratta'd to where damaging Gideon even in that form will hit the Loyalty point system).

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« Reply #2441 on: October 14, 2019, 09:45:24 AM »
Oko is just improperly costed. Card like Field, Golos, and Fires need to be erased from future standard development. "Something for nothing" doesn't even need to be in the toolbox they use to develop standard sets. Just put that in future modern sets, you assholes.
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« Reply #2443 on: October 15, 2019, 05:49:08 PM »
Playing against that deck is just straight AIDS, too. I'm only drafting until they ban it next Monday.
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« Reply #2444 on: October 15, 2019, 09:37:34 PM »
oko ban or just golos / field ?
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« Reply #2445 on: October 15, 2019, 09:37:57 PM »
lee shi tians deck to next level the meta is sweet
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« Reply #2446 on: October 15, 2019, 09:56:38 PM »
Ban Golos/Field, Errata Oko to 4cmc, Nuke Teferi from orbit.
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« Reply #2447 on: October 15, 2019, 10:04:30 PM »
Nuke Teferi from orbit.

YO, HOLD THAT THOUGHT!
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« Reply #2448 on: October 15, 2019, 10:43:03 PM »
oko ban or just golos / field ?

Ban Fires of Invention too, free spells should be verboten, especially if you're casting planeswalkers for free that will effect the game for turns down the line.

I don't think Oko needs to be banned. I would be happier if he cost 4 or started at 3 loyalty, tho
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« Reply #2450 on: October 17, 2019, 04:53:01 AM »
oko ban or just golos / field ?

Ban Fires of Invention too, free spells should be verboten, especially if you're casting planeswalkers for free that will effect the game for turns down the line.

I don't think Oko needs to be banned. I would be happier if he cost 4 or started at 3 loyalty, tho

What, you got a problem with good old Nicolas and Sarkhan being both dropped on turn 5, with some mana to spare for whatever is on the field?

Don't be hating dude.

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« Reply #2451 on: October 18, 2019, 11:31:53 AM »
I wasn't going to buy anymore Collector's Edition packs of Drano, but I did anyway and got a pretty sweet hit.



Foil Borderless Royal Scions and a non-foil showcase Brazen Borrower.
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« Reply #2452 on: October 18, 2019, 12:02:48 PM »
Well I guess you can upgrade The Bire's servers now. kthx

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« Reply #2453 on: October 18, 2019, 04:18:05 PM »
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« Reply #2454 on: October 19, 2019, 04:13:46 PM »
on one hand, I like oko in modern. otoh, fuck planeswalkers being this good. royal scions is also a low key modern banger. gds? yes plz.
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« Reply #2455 on: October 20, 2019, 01:41:08 AM »
https://www.reddit.com/r/BadMtgCombos/comments/bpmc8g/turn_mtg_into_uno_with_one_simple_29card_trick/

I have no clue if this is actually possible, but it's fucking bonkers. :lol

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« Reply #2456 on: October 20, 2019, 09:12:08 AM »
Watching your opponent scramble to spawn 20 zombies with their stupid FoD only for them to get slapped in the face REAL hard by a 12/12 Yorvo because they don't know what Manifold key does  :aah :hump

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« Reply #2457 on: October 21, 2019, 10:53:27 AM »
Field of the Dead banned.

NuModern format (starts with RTR, fetches banned).

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« Reply #2458 on: October 21, 2019, 12:06:27 PM »
Ban on MTGA will only be applied on Oct 24th :notlikethis

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« Reply #2459 on: October 21, 2019, 12:38:56 PM »
Ban on MTGA will only be applied on Oct 24th :notlikethis

I'm not gonna bother playing constructed again until it's gone, god that deck is AIDS
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