Author Topic: Magic: The Gathering (Read 347564 times)

Kara · « **Reply #1740 on:** September 25, 2018, 12:13:11 AM »

https://www.newyorker.com/culture/culture-desk/the-twenty-five-year-journey-of-magic-the-gathering

I am very excited that I can start saying "Jon Finkel is a better socialist than Bhaskar Sunkara."

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https://twitter.com/Jonnymagic00/status/1014327230523236352

Flexibility in tactics, unity of purpose, just like dedushka Lenin would have wanted.

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Joe Molotov · « **Reply #1741 on:** September 25, 2018, 08:57:27 AM »

Socialism the way Richard Garfield intended.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #1742 on:** September 25, 2018, 10:11:34 AM »

Jonny Magic 2020

Kara · « **Reply #1743 on:** September 26, 2018, 11:38:34 AM »

https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/9j2d4m/alter_bowsette_how_to_bandwagon_by_your_friendly/

Every day we stray further from god's light.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #1744 on:** September 26, 2018, 12:10:57 PM »

Isn’t Liliana modeled after his gf/wife?

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Kara · « **Reply #1745 on:** September 26, 2018, 12:29:31 PM »

https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/ygg39/im_really_good_friends_with_magic_artist_steve/

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His wife was the model for Chandra Ablaze.

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Transhuman · « **Reply #1746 on:** September 26, 2018, 12:39:24 PM »

If you're going to the prerelease, be aware that the Golgari seeded booster is worth much more on average compared to the others.

Oh and they're back to seeded boosters

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #1747 on:** September 26, 2018, 12:46:37 PM »

Ah, okay. I was thinking it was Lili for some reason.

Kara · « **Reply #1748 on:** September 26, 2018, 12:56:09 PM »

I don't know who the model for Lili was; I posted that link because (1) it was ominously prophetic with the Nintendo alter and (2) it demonstrated that he uses outside models (unlike, say, Terese Nielsen).

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #1749 on:** September 26, 2018, 12:59:49 PM »

I looked around and found his model for Lili.

http://ascendedminionproject.tumblr.com/post/63768584799/little-known-fact-liliana-is-actually-a-blonde

Kara · « **Reply #1750 on:** September 26, 2018, 01:04:17 PM »

The fact that she's blonde makes the Bowserette alter even worse.

thisismyusername · « **Reply #1751 on:** September 27, 2018, 09:21:43 PM »

New Player Experience in Arena is still hot ass.

"Let's go buy a booster!"
(Think it's mandatory, so do so)
Reddit: lol that's not mandatory, though.

FFFFFFFFUUUUUUCK YOUUUUUUU.

"YOU NEED MORE GOLD TO PLAY THESE EVENTS!"
(IT'S A FUCKING FREE WEEKEND)
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Also the starting collection I have is pure ass. I have that "-9: Create an Emblem and if you deal damage, you win the game." and Tefari (thanks Closed Beta) planeswalkers in my deck with all 5 colors (I'm a rainbow player, shhhh) and the draw cards in this collection I have is ass. The +2 for that Win the game planeswalker requires me to SACRIFICE shit (I can't seem to sacrifice my opponents shit... ugh) to boost it because I can't just -9 the Planeswalker right from the get-go to the Emblem to have the opponent sweat.

I need more draw cards for single-ton and to get those, I have to win rounds. Which I can't win because I can't draw fast enough. FFFFFFFFFFFF.

naff · « **Reply #1752 on:** September 27, 2018, 09:29:28 PM »

Sounds like you need to git gud

Read a primer. Stop playing 5c goodstuff. That's not a viable strategy.

thisismyusername · « **Reply #1753 on:** September 27, 2018, 11:33:13 PM »

Quote from: naff on September 27, 2018, 09:29:28 PM

Stop playing 5c goodstuff. That's not a viable strategy.

Used to be back in the day. REEEEEEEE.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #1754 on:** September 27, 2018, 11:34:30 PM »

Quote from: thisismyusername on September 27, 2018, 11:33:13 PM

Quote from: naff on September 27, 2018, 09:29:28 PM
Stop playing 5c goodstuff. That's not a viable strategy.

Used to be back in the day. REEEEEEEE.

When the fuck did you play, Unlimited?

thisismyusername · « **Reply #1755 on:** September 27, 2018, 11:56:43 PM »

Quote from: Human Snorenado on September 27, 2018, 11:34:30 PM

Quote from: thisismyusername on September 27, 2018, 11:33:13 PM
Quote from: naff on September 27, 2018, 09:29:28 PM
Stop playing 5c goodstuff. That's not a viable strategy.

Used to be back in the day. REEEEEEEE.

When the fuck did you play, Unlimited?

Planeshift. That link is even a Preconstructed.

Kara · « **Reply #1756 on:** September 28, 2018, 02:12:44 AM »

TIMU is Oscar Tan, confirmed.

Kara · « **Reply #1757 on:** September 28, 2018, 02:14:11 AM »

Brehs, surveil is so disgusting.

The combos.

The synergies.

The card selection.

Fucking blue / black being the cool spells color instead of red / blue.

Raist · « **Reply #1758 on:** September 28, 2018, 02:43:50 AM »

Fuck Teferi.

That's all.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #1759 on:** September 28, 2018, 09:13:18 AM »

Quote from: Raist on September 28, 2018, 02:43:50 AM

Fuck Teferi.

That's all.

A big Timmy control card that you can slam on T5 without bothering to leave counter magic up, and then it completely takes over the game.

thisismyusername · « **Reply #1760 on:** September 28, 2018, 03:58:07 PM »

Quote from: Kara on September 28, 2018, 02:12:44 AM

TIMU is Oscar Tan, confirmed.

But seriously: Fuck MaRo and R&D for killing Rainbow decks. I liked that goddamn gimmick, and enjoyed the hell out of balancing the mana "engine" in decks during the Invasion block. This new world of "lol mono or duel color, otherwise triple-max" is horseshit.

Quote from: Raist on September 28, 2018, 02:43:50 AM

Fuck Teferi.

That's all.

Could be worse: Could ramp up into "if I put one damage on you, you lose the game." Planeswalkers were a mistake, they're nothing but trash. (Along with "lose the game" clauses, but that's another discussion)

Going to pre-release tomorrow, if only for the sealed code and to see if I can grab (read: steal... pyohohoho</kidding>) someones preconstructed deck code for Arena.

Kara · « **Reply #1761 on:** September 28, 2018, 05:14:53 PM »

As much as it pains me to contradict a point that begins with "Fuck Mark Rosewater," you're remembering Invasion era Magic a little rosily. Yes there was a lot of fixing but its time in Type 2 was defined by Fires in the first part--which was a 2 color fun police deck if ever there was one--and Psychatog in the latter half which was either a 2 color deck or a 2 color deck splashing Flametongue Kavu (a card that also happened to star in Fires decks, sure am glad Wizards has figured out how to balance red cards now, lulz).

As for the present, because the game is less one of risk and reward (in particular with mana) and more one of reward and even more rewards, decks playing a large number of colors are a dead canary in the coal mine named balance. You need only to look at the Humans deck in Modern to see how boring and lifeless 5 color decks are under current design principles.

Raist · « **Reply #1762 on:** September 28, 2018, 07:04:04 PM »

Quote from: thisismyusername on September 28, 2018, 03:58:07 PM

Quote from: Raist on September 28, 2018, 02:43:50 AM
Fuck Teferi.

That's all.

Could be worse: Could ramp up into "if I put one damage on you, you lose the game." Planeswalkers were a mistake, they're nothing but trash. (Along with "lose the game" clauses, but that's another discussion)

Going to pre-release tomorrow, if only for the sealed code and to see if I can grab (read: steal... pyohohoho</kidding>) someones preconstructed deck code for Arena.

Maybe, but at least those don't involve the game turning into a 45mins shitfest of "neither of us will now put anything on the board till I've drawn my second sun / milled you to death / exiled all your shit into oblivion lololololol"

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #1763 on:** September 28, 2018, 07:09:14 PM »

Quote from: Raist on September 28, 2018, 07:04:04 PM

Quote from: thisismyusername on September 28, 2018, 03:58:07 PM
Quote from: Raist on September 28, 2018, 02:43:50 AM
Fuck Teferi.

That's all.

Could be worse: Could ramp up into "if I put one damage on you, you lose the game." Planeswalkers were a mistake, they're nothing but trash. (Along with "lose the game" clauses, but that's another discussion)

Going to pre-release tomorrow, if only for the sealed code and to see if I can grab (read: steal... pyohohoho</kidding>) someones preconstructed deck code for Arena.

Maybe, but at least those don't involve the game turning into a 45mins shitfest of "neither of us will now put anything on the board till I've drawn my second sun / milled you to death / exiled all your shit into oblivion lololololol"

If an opponent has assembled their soft lock/control state, it is incumbent on you as their opponent to mentally go over the possible outs from the situation that your deck can present to you. If there aren't any, you're the one wasting time by not conceding.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #1764 on:** September 28, 2018, 08:05:49 PM »

Quote from: Human Snorenado on September 28, 2018, 07:09:14 PM

Quote from: Raist on September 28, 2018, 07:04:04 PM
Quote from: thisismyusername on September 28, 2018, 03:58:07 PM
Quote from: Raist on September 28, 2018, 02:43:50 AM
Fuck Teferi.

That's all.

Could be worse: Could ramp up into "if I put one damage on you, you lose the game." Planeswalkers were a mistake, they're nothing but trash. (Along with "lose the game" clauses, but that's another discussion)

Going to pre-release tomorrow, if only for the sealed code and to see if I can grab (read: steal... pyohohoho</kidding>) someones preconstructed deck code for Arena.

Maybe, but at least those don't involve the game turning into a 45mins shitfest of "neither of us will now put anything on the board till I've drawn my second sun / milled you to death / exiled all your shit into oblivion lololololol"

If an opponent has assembled their soft lock/control state, it is incumbent on you as their opponent to mentally go over the possible outs from the situation that your deck can present to you. If there aren't any, you're the one wasting time by not conceding.

If you win Game 1 tho, slow play their ass all day long. Make them regret their life choices.

Kara · « **Reply #1765 on:** September 28, 2018, 08:55:23 PM »

When I storm off on MODO my opponents rarely concede and make me click Grapeshot triggers 19+ times but if I cast Empty the Warrens for a bunch they don't let me attack for lethal. :'(

I guess it's karma for all the games I won to snap concessions during the Ravnica: City of Guilds throwback Standard gauntlet when I cast Dragonstorm with multiple copies of Bogardan Hellkite in hand.

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That was an extremely fun deck, I wish I'd played it back then.

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Kara · « **Reply #1766 on:** September 29, 2018, 02:51:34 AM »

At midnight prerelease. Pray for me, brehs.

Kara · « **Reply #1767 on:** September 29, 2018, 04:45:51 PM »

I know I'm not saying anything revolutionary here but Assassin's Trophy is really not a well-made card, especially in limited.

Super glad multiple environments are going to be ass for an indeterminable amount of time because some nostalgia dorks pushed for Teferi, Hero of Dominaria to be printed as is.

Kara · « **Reply #1768 on:** September 30, 2018, 06:39:05 PM »

At midnight prerelease I took Dimir and bombed hard. I had more of a Golgari deck somehow (seeded packs eh

) but I forced Dimir because I'm a clown. I did win every game where I cast Nightveil Predator, but that's sort of why that card exists. Thanks to a bye in the last round I got prized out even though I never won a match.

I went to the spike prerelease yesterday evening and ended up with this.

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I rolled so hard.

Fire Urchin is really more of a Boros card. I would have liked a Wee Dragonauts instead.

Selective Snare is really weird but I liked it a lot because there are a lot of creatures that incidentally share a type. (Once I was able to get an enchantment off one of my own creatures and clear the way for some others casting it for 3.)

Sonic Assault and Direct Current are great. I thought the latter was bad when I saw the spoiler but no, it's not at all.

naff · « **Reply #1769 on:** September 30, 2018, 08:26:30 PM »

splashing some dimir surveil action with golgari undergrowth is very nice. prob good the other way round too.

naff · « **Reply #1770 on:** September 30, 2018, 10:17:56 PM »

playing arena for the first time in a long time. this shit still has the worst interface I have used of any mtg digital client for building constructed decks. painful. how has this not been improved yet.

naff · « **Reply #1771 on:** September 30, 2018, 10:18:48 PM »

horizontal scrolling, no ordering, full card view only.

fuck you MaRo.

Kara · « **Reply #1772 on:** October 01, 2018, 04:26:33 AM »

Quote from: naff on September 30, 2018, 08:26:30 PM

splashing some dimir surveil action with golgari undergrowth is very nice. prob good the other way round too.

Dimir's creatures tend to be high impact and the payoffs for Undergrowth tend to not last beyond the turn. If Golgari were Izzet or Boros that wouldn't be as much of a problem, but it's not. I definitely don't think Surveil splashing Undergrowth is deece.

As for why I didn't try a blue / black / green deck, I had two copies of Watcher in the Mist, two copies of Deadly Visit, the aforementioned Nightveil Predator, an Izoni, Thousand-Eyed, a Beast Whisperer, a Hatchery Spider, two copies of Generous Stray and a Dimir Spybug. Those are two different decks' worth of cards. Typing that out pisses me off at myself for not playing Golgari, smgdh.

On a tangential note, I also don't think Surveil and Jump-start play particularly well together either. With an exception or two you want to cast the Jump-start cards twice because they're actually balanced. If you have to bin one it's not the end of the world but it's also not particularly great either.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #1773 on:** October 01, 2018, 11:03:54 AM »

I didn't get to do any paper prereleases this weekend. I did one sealed event on Arena, and put together an okay Boros deck. I had a lot of Mentor boys, Sure Strikes, and the 5/5 that does 1 dmg to all your opponent's creatures every time it's swings.

Transhuman · « **Reply #1774 on:** October 01, 2018, 11:59:37 AM »

If anyone wants a code for a free sealed event on Arena let me know. I got 6, but you can only use one per account. Man I thought I was so smart getting all these codes off people at the prerelease

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #1775 on:** October 01, 2018, 12:02:11 PM »

Quote from: Transhuman on October 01, 2018, 11:59:37 AM

If anyone wants a code for a free sealed event on Arena let me know. I got 6, but you can only use one per account. Man I thought I was so smart getting all these codes off people at the prerelease

I'll take one, pls.

Transhuman · « **Reply #1776 on:** October 01, 2018, 12:04:42 PM »

Code 1: kry-oru9-6g6

Code 2: zba-j4f9-hzo

naff · « **Reply #1777 on:** October 01, 2018, 04:22:31 PM »

True, if I had any of the big Dimir bois the splash would've been fair ly pointless. I had some great Dimir spells and support creatures with some early fodder (surveil wall, Dimir informant, couple robber rats, poisoner) and used two rhizome lurchers, a kraul harpooner and izoni to good effect.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #1778 on:** October 01, 2018, 05:49:56 PM »

Quote from: Transhuman on October 01, 2018, 12:04:42 PM

Code 1: kry-oru9-6g6

Code 2: zba-j4f9-hzo

Thanks, I used the first one.

Kara · « **Reply #1779 on:** October 02, 2018, 01:38:45 AM »

Wow, blue / red prison won the Modern challenge last weekend.

https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/modern-challenge-2018-09-30

(The winner is the only person who can play the deck.

)

Speaking of sweet decks, I kind of want to unretire from Type 1.5 so I can play this deck now that I'm lost to being a Storm dork.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #1780 on:** October 02, 2018, 03:09:35 PM »

In my second sealed pool, I had Vraska and Trostani Discordant along with Status//Stature and a couple of Luminous Bonds, so I made a pretty good Golgari deck with a white splash.

The Sceneman · « **Reply #1781 on:** October 04, 2018, 06:48:36 AM »

My prerelease deck had two Response // Resurgence and still sucked, all I remember is flooding every damn game with my 16 land sealed deck. Did get to attack with Hammer Dropper and soldier token twice in one turn on a clean board for 15 or so damage which was sweet. Looking forward to drafting this weekend. What guild is the best?!!?

The Sceneman · « **Reply #1782 on:** October 04, 2018, 06:50:45 AM »

Quote from: Kara on September 30, 2018, 06:39:05 PM

At midnight prerelease I took Dimir and bombed hard. I had more of a Golgari deck somehow (seeded packs eh ) but I forced Dimir because I'm a clown. I did win every game where I cast Nightveil Predator, but that's sort of why that card exists. Thanks to a bye in the last round I got prized out even though I never won a match.

I went to the spike prerelease yesterday evening and ended up with this.

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I rolled so hard.

Fire Urchin is really more of a Boros card. I would have liked a Wee Dragonauts instead.

Selective Snare is really weird but I liked it a lot because there are a lot of creatures that incidentally share a type. (Once I was able to get an enchantment off one of my own creatures and clear the way for some others casting it for 3.)

Sonic Assault and Direct Current are great. I thought the latter was bad when I saw the spoiler but no, it's not at all.

Yeah, Direct Current is great in this format. Lots of X/1s running around. And fuck the damn nightveil predator in 2hg. We just couldnt touch it nor interact profitably, so we lost to it over many agonising turns. Great card!

The Sceneman · « **Reply #1783 on:** October 04, 2018, 06:56:08 AM »

Quote from: naff on September 30, 2018, 10:17:56 PM

playing arena for the first time in a long time. this shit still has the worst interface I have used of any mtg digital client for building constructed decks. painful. how has this not been improved yet.

Jesus they still havent fixed this? The deckbuilder is almost as efficient as sorting paper cards into a deck

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #1784 on:** October 04, 2018, 11:03:15 AM »

I had a sealed opponent cast a T3 Thief of Sanity followed by a T4 Thief of Sanity. Cheating ass Arena RNG.

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I still won after I Status//Statue'd the first one and shut down the second one with a Bartizan Bats until I could find a Dead Weight, then closed out a grindy game with a 10/10 Rhizom Lurcher.

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Human Snorenado · « **Reply #1785 on:** October 04, 2018, 11:06:58 AM »

Quote from: The Sceneman on October 04, 2018, 06:56:08 AM

Quote from: naff on September 30, 2018, 10:17:56 PM
playing arena for the first time in a long time. this shit still has the worst interface I have used of any mtg digital client for building constructed decks. painful. how has this not been improved yet.

Jesus they still havent fixed this? The deckbuilder is almost as efficient as sorting paper cards into a deck

Arena (and I would argue magic in general, including MTGO) doesn't cater to people who want to durdle and brew their own decks. Import netdeck decklists, don't be creative. Try less, win more.

Kara · « **Reply #1786 on:** October 04, 2018, 05:45:31 PM »

Quote from: The Sceneman on October 04, 2018, 06:50:45 AM

And fuck the damn nightveil predator in 2hg. We just couldnt touch it nor interact profitably, so we lost to it over many agonising turns. Great card!

What I like about it is that it's a house against Dimir and Golgari but not that great against Boros, Selesnya, and Izzet.

I never found hexproof creatures worth complaining about (though I should say that I still think shroud is a better ability with more design space) yet it's still good to see them make a finisher with the ability that has counter play.

The Sceneman · « **Reply #1787 on:** October 05, 2018, 09:27:47 AM »

Drafted a boring Selesnya deck this evening. Pretty sure this format is asscrack. Really grindy but probably rewards correct deck building once you've figured out the flow. Looking forward to new Standard though, I've got a playset of Risk Factor now so just gonna go to town with a 19-20 mountain burn list

Kara · « **Reply #1788 on:** October 05, 2018, 12:45:52 PM »

Selesnya is quite boring but very playable and I'm not too happy about that because it means whenever I draft at my LGS I'm going to be drafting Selesnya. (Drafting what's open at my seat--coincidentally I'm sure--means I end up drafting green no matter what set we're drafting. LGS grinders making me fucking LARP Ken Nagle outchea.

)

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #1789 on:** October 05, 2018, 08:21:55 PM »

Who needs Ravnica to play Izzet Spells?

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #1790 on:** October 05, 2018, 08:41:33 PM »

Yes, play your Luminous Bonds my children. It matters naught to the Guttersnipe.

Kara · « **Reply #1791 on:** October 06, 2018, 08:14:51 PM »

My LGS is running a promo weekend on drafts, discounted rate but winner takes all prize support. I'm lighting so much money on fire atm.

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I had a sweet Izzet deck that went 0-1 drop. :'(

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Kara · « **Reply #1792 on:** October 07, 2018, 04:41:33 AM »

After 5 drafts my hot take is that Izzet is fine in sealed if you have the pool but not particularly playable in draft, but that's in no small part due to every table having at least 2 Dimir drafters.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #1793 on:** October 07, 2018, 02:57:40 PM »

I discarded Artful Takedown to jump-start a lethal Direct Current against an opponent.

Kara · « **Reply #1794 on:** October 07, 2018, 05:54:26 PM »

tfw your opponent casts Sonic Assault on your Emmara, Soul of the Accord

tfw you have 2x Guildmages' Forum in your sealed pool and Emmara, Soul of the Accord and Underrealm Lich

Kara · « **Reply #1795 on:** October 09, 2018, 11:56:10 PM »

tfw your opponent casts Demotion on your Ledev Champion but you got an Emmara, Soul of the Accord in play

Kara · « **Reply #1796 on:** October 10, 2018, 01:59:42 AM »

tfw you've got a Niv-Mizzet, Parun and a Fire Urchin in play.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #1797 on:** October 10, 2018, 03:27:36 PM »

Father forgive me, for I have used Lava Coil to kill a Child of Night.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #1798 on:** October 10, 2018, 05:39:32 PM »

Cast Vivid Revival to get back Assassin's Trophy, Trostani Discordant, and Status//Statue. Cast all three spells a second time. Still lose the game.

Kara · « **Reply #1799 on:** October 11, 2018, 05:16:24 AM »

Sounds like you were playing a bunch of Junk.

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