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Bebpo

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36840 on: March 03, 2021, 07:30:43 PM »
I found a secondhand Wii U for 30 dollars so I am playing Bayonetta 2 (which I got for 7 dollars). This game is fuckin awesome. Also the Wii U fuckin sucks, Nintendo clearly had no idea what it was doing with this.

Luckily I have a bunch of Wii shit from a huge Wii Binge from 2 years ago (I skipped that console ENTIRELY and caught up on it with 100-yen games) so Iím playing it through the old Wii Pro Controller.

Wii U's main problem is the handheld side is just way too fucking huge.

I still have a boatload of Wii U backlog but I don't want to hook it up to a tv and it's too fugly for portable so meh.

Bebpo

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« Reply #36841 on: March 03, 2021, 07:40:11 PM »
DQVII 3DS - So in the mood for DQ and booted this up again and I have no idea what is going on or where I am, but looking at a guide I'm a bit after I got the wolf kid. My save is ~8 hours.

The most surprising thing is how at lvl.12, 8 hours in, I have zero combat abilities or spells. Like I have a basic heal spell & def up spell and otherwise just normal attack. My party members also have like 1 spell or skill and that's it. DQVII is definitely a slow build up game.

Unfortunately I think if I really ever want to play through this I'd need to just restart at this point. 8 hours isn't a ton and I just don't remember anything besides that you do an island in the past from the map room -> island appears in the present and you get a new map piece -> repeat. Which might be enough to get by but I don't remember who my party members are so yeah...

DQXI S - When I rebought this on the Switch import version, I paid the extra $$ for the deluxe version that came with audio dramas. But the audio dramas had huge spoiler warnings so I didn't touch them. Now that I'm done with DQXI, I started listening to them last night. There's ten 30 min episodes for ~5 hours total.

I think one of the games strengths and its weakness was its cast, who are good but also a bit underdeveloped (like the Hendrick/Jasper dynamic doesn't impact as well as it's supposed to imo), so 5 hours of character episodes giving more development to these characters might help. The first ep is a flashback to Hendrick/Jasper meeting as kids.

I looked to see if these were on youtube with at least google auto-translation but I guess since they were paid DLC SE takes them down. It kinda sucks that localization companies have never bothered putting in the effort for bringing over audio dramas with translations. I remember back in the PS2 days there were some good ones for like Xenosaga ep1 and Persona 3 and Tales of games. If they're canon it's nice getting extra development for some of these casts.


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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36842 on: March 03, 2021, 11:11:33 PM »
Outriders is kinda meh, I guess I was expecting it to be a little wilder being People Can Fly. It's not bad or anything, maybe I need to level up more though I'm already level 4 and the demo maxes out at 7. Weapons aren't all that exciting really so far. Haven't played it co-op with anybody. Might complete the main quest then do another character for one of the other types for that. I did pick a sorta safe class in that you leech damage rather than teleport or set people on fire or whatever. Probably won't try all four classes all the way through all the demo quests.

Been skipping everything so no idea if the lore/story/dialogue is any good, was mainly wanting to get to the gameplay to see if I want to actually play it for however many hours. Don't think I'll drop $60 on it when there's stuff I haven't played a ton of like Destiny or The Division that's similar and/or better. But somebody looking for something newish in that might want to check out the demo at least. There's people on ResetERA.com who have put tens of hours into it since it carries over into the full game, rerunning the quests trying to get drops to use in the rest of the game. And I'm definitely not that type, especially as more of a content tourist these days.

It's not a GaaS or thing with tons of DLC plans, it's supposed to be a full complete game at release and that's it. 30+ hours, then endgame content. Some people in the thread were saying Remnant might be a better version of it. Thought I had that free from somewhere, maybe EGS, might check that out if I have it.

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« Reply #36843 on: March 04, 2021, 12:02:27 AM »
The demo is awful and you barely get your dick wet with customization. It only just starts to get fun at the end when you're farming the captain for better loots.

I think it'll be a fun play. Will it last? Haha of course not.
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Bebpo

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« Reply #36844 on: March 04, 2021, 12:50:58 AM »
DQVII 3ds - Figured out where I am and the story so far, got back in the hang of the gameplay and to the next area which is the town being attacked by robots. I might play this as my next rpg and finally get through 7. The music and town story stuff/npc dialogue is pretty nice. Music is better than DQXI.

Also I guess if I actually play through 7, since I'll have played all the single player DQs from 4-11 at that point, might as well do 1-3 since they're all pretty short.

Though I need to get back to AC Valhalla and finish that too.
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36845 on: March 04, 2021, 11:30:08 AM »
I loved DQ 7 for a while. It took me three tries before it "clicked" but it was my favorite for a while (well after III and IV).
But it really hasn't aged well, even the DS remake. The pace is just ridiculously slow. I remember in the original, 3 hours before your first fight.
If you have the time to really lose yourself in that world it's great but most people don't. The DS remake takes a lot of that out but still it's a very plodding game, by design.
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36846 on: March 05, 2021, 09:48:32 PM »
Finished Ys 8. What the fuck? Was not expecting that ending. Overall, the game is an enjoyable mess of contradictions both in terms of gameplay and story.

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A third of the game is an intimate, small scale story about character development of a group of random people pulling together to survive a dangerous island, and then all of that is erased when we swerve into Lovecraftian cosmic horror and the entire PLANET is suddenly destroyed and none of that growth happened any more. The other third of the game, in Dana's time, is also contradicted, since everything with the first maiden is pointless when Dana already knows way more about what is happening than she does. Three wildly different stories in the same game that don't fit together, and unfortunately the story that dominates the ending is the most unsatisfying and least developed one.

With the gameplay, the Dana sections are awesome. She has 3 forms that all feel different to play, and (not coincidentally) her bosses are better designed. They could have easily designed a whole game around her. But with the party, even though you have 6 characters, any one of them has to be able to solo 99% of the game. So the 6 characters have less true variety than the 1 character, and their bosses are mostly more simplistic.

The party system as it exists here doesn't allow the Ys trademark of intense fights that can be instantly retried on failure. You can easily tank any fight in the game if you want, and you can't instant restart because you can't die. Levels are no longer meaningful because you randomly are given characters that could be 6 or more levels above you and everyone levels at different rates. Since levels aren't meaningful, they added enemy level scaling and grinding for upgrades/skills to replace that functionality. Many of the systems now feel vestigious or tacked on.

That said, having all the characters is fun. I played as Laxia for much of the game since I found her moveset most enjoyable. Long range thrusts for building skill points, efficient dagger throw damage (savage mask + jade pendant is so good), the heavy hitter that freezes the opponent. She's good but also does require aiming due to lack of spread attacks.

The regular enemies are also better than usual. Some of high level dino areas are honestly better than many bosses. Best regular enemies I've seen in a Ys game.
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Bebpo

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« Reply #36847 on: March 06, 2021, 02:07:40 PM »
Finished up the past story I got to in DQVII with the town beset by killer robots. It was good! Also more of the depressing DQ writing that was missing a bit in DQXI.

Like you get to this small town that's fighting off killer robots and talk to the NPCs, then you go to the castle and sign up as a new recruit and meet the commander and troops worrying about the killer robot siege. Then word gets to the castle that the town is lost and you go back and all the NPCs including the church sister and a little kid playing are now replaced with fucking coffins.

Then the commanders brother who had a tragic story of loss and became obsessed with building robots and hiding away from real people ends up being convinced to build a counter-robot named after his lost love and you go to the enemy hideout and take out the demon controlling all the robots. Everyone in the town is happy now but still depressed about everyone who died. They start attacking the counter-robot because they hate all robots who killed everyone. So the brother guy runs away back to his little shed with his robots giving up on humanity again.

Jump to the future and you go to the shack and there's the corpse of the brother on the bed and his robot, that's all beat up and falling apart, keeps talking to the bones asking why he isn't responding and that the robot needs to be fixed.

Good depressing/melancholic stuff, pretty much how I think of DQ stories. Just another reason why DQXI Act 3 is lame.

Also hard endurance battles. No MP refresh on leveling up -> multi-stage boss fights already on top of high encounter rate dungeons before them and no MP refresh items at this point = decent challenge. The boss in the robot hideout was probably tougher than anything outside the post-game bosses in DQXI. Looking forward to reaching the job change temple at some point tho, need some more skills/flexibility as the boss fights are ramping up.

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36848 on: March 06, 2021, 05:02:05 PM »
The robot trying to feed his long-dead master is one of the most touching parts in the DQ series for me..

Anyways, I tried to play Moon: RPG Remix Adventure and honestly, couldn't make it very far. A lot of 'quirky' games don't really do much for me, and I am not a fan of 'right place right time' type puzzle solving, i.e. where you have to memorize NPC schedules like Majora's Mask. I want to give it more of a chance but I just keel over and die before I can figure anything out, and it's more of an adventure game not really an RPG. Not sure if I'll continue with this... I also started Seiken 3 on the Collection of Mana. It's nice playing this in English (last time I played was back when I imported it in 1996).
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36849 on: March 06, 2021, 06:06:09 PM »
Still playing Xenoblade, 60 hours, lvl 72

about 20 hours ago I thought I was nearing the end

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and then the whole map changes
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Bebpo

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36850 on: March 06, 2021, 07:10:49 PM »
Maquette

Gave this a try today and played about 1-2 hours. It's Annapura hipster indie shit to the max, but I also have a soft spot for lovey-love relationship stuff so I'm enjoying it. There's some good music and the art aesthetic is nice too.

That being said, I sorta feel these kind of "games" work as a 1-2 hour thing. I had to look up a walkthrough a few times because I am dumb at puzzles and saw after 1-2 hours of playing I'm like 1/3rd through, so probably ~5 hour game, which might be too long for this kind of thing, idk. I'll see it.

I like it enough that I'll definitely stick with it and finish it in the next few days. Seems good for a free PS+ title.

Bebpo

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« Reply #36851 on: March 06, 2021, 07:15:30 PM »
Also was looking up who the VA for the guy is and I saw it's Bryce Howard's husband, so the VA couple is a real-life married couple. That's kind of cute.

Bebpo

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36852 on: March 06, 2021, 11:06:09 PM »
I was thinking that it's kind of a shame that no one makes good looking jrpgs anymore except Square Enix.

Like playing DQXI S on PC which is the downgraded S version, it's still like the best looking jrpg in existence and it's gonna be 4 years old. Only competition is FF7 remake and Kingdom Hearts 3, both also SE.

Used to be that Namco Bandai could keep up, but Tales went down the shitter, Mistwalker died outside mobile, etc...

So basically with jrpgs it's like every 2 years we'll get a new FF or DQ or KH that'll look good and that's about it for the rest of our lives. Well, I guess there's always F2P Gatcha stuff from China like Genshin Impact and Black Desert Online from Korea. With how well those do, I wouldn't be surprised if the high-end graphics jrpg future is dominated by gatcha/mmo rpgs from Korea/China from this point on.

Spieler1

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36853 on: March 07, 2021, 01:09:57 AM »
Persona, Tales of Arise, NinoKuni2, Yakuza7...

demi

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« Reply #36854 on: March 07, 2021, 01:20:25 AM »
Tales of Berseria was amazing but go off king
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« Reply #36855 on: March 07, 2021, 01:28:44 AM »
Yakuza 7 has been  :delicious  so far, and youíve got SMTV coming this year*.

If you count KH as a JRPG, then something like P5 Strikers is definitely one too, and Iím having a good time with it.

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Bebpo

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« Reply #36856 on: March 07, 2021, 01:36:20 AM »
Forgot about Persona yeah. Every 5 years we get a good gfx game from Atlus.

Yakuza is great, but dunno if it scratches that same travel the world jrpg itch. Arise looks pretty shit, good luck with that. They finally kick out the Tales producer Baba after a million games and then the next one is a development mess that takes years.

Pretty sure Level 5 ain't making any more high production jrpgs since they're set to go out of business soon at this rate.

MMaRsu

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« Reply #36857 on: March 07, 2021, 06:12:45 AM »
I dunno if you played smt iv but that game blew me away from what ive played so far

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« Reply #36858 on: March 07, 2021, 10:18:46 AM »
Congrats on getting blown

tiesto

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36859 on: March 07, 2021, 11:06:15 AM »
I was thinking that it's kind of a shame that no one makes good looking jrpgs anymore except Square Enix.

Like playing DQXI S on PC which is the downgraded S version, it's still like the best looking jrpg in existence and it's gonna be 4 years old. Only competition is FF7 remake and Kingdom Hearts 3, both also SE.

Used to be that Namco Bandai could keep up, but Tales went down the shitter, Mistwalker died outside mobile, etc...

So basically with jrpgs it's like every 2 years we'll get a new FF or DQ or KH that'll look good and that's about it for the rest of our lives. Well, I guess there's always F2P Gatcha stuff from China like Genshin Impact and Black Desert Online from Korea. With how well those do, I wouldn't be surprised if the high-end graphics jrpg future is dominated by gatcha/mmo rpgs from Korea/China from this point on.

Monolith? Capcom if you count MH as RPG?

Even Gust and Falcom have been making some strides in the graphics department, although they're no where near the level of SE, Ryza and Kuro no Kiseki are big steps up from their predecessors in terms of gfx.
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« Reply #36860 on: March 07, 2021, 11:29:22 AM »
At this point, character designs, voice acting, and the writing/localization are the most important elements regarding JRPGs on a production level. We've come a long way in those areas, which matters a lot more than raw visual prowess imo.

For example, FFXV has great visuals, but so much about it falls short compared to more modestly budgeted JRPGs.
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Bebpo

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« Reply #36861 on: March 07, 2021, 06:47:20 PM »
Started playing Inside. I thought Limbo was just ok and totally overrated so I ignored this until now.

Liking it, animation is amazing.

Bebpo

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« Reply #36862 on: March 07, 2021, 07:47:59 PM »
Finished Maquette - It's a kinda weak puzzle game with a good soundtrack and VA and is reasonably short (~4 hours). Wouldn't pay money for it, but for PS+ was fine.






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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36863 on: March 08, 2021, 06:06:30 AM »
Started playing Death Squared on the Switch with the family.

Honestly one of the best co-op puzzle/party games I've ever played.


At least one other person is a must though. Don't even bother with single player.
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« Reply #36864 on: March 09, 2021, 01:13:34 PM »
finished Age of Calamity. I think the best I can say is it's got a ton of content and is passable.
That being said, it never really reached for "greatness".
As a Mosuo game I think Dragon Quest Heroes II was better. It had a better story and flow and enemy/combat variety.
As a zelda game I don't think it was very brave.
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It opted for the stupid "alternate timeline" where they stop calamity ganon and BOTW never happened instead of trusting themselves to tell the story of the failure
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There wasn't a lot of enemy variety. And the bosses were recycled all over the place, and the idea of making them harder was making them more damage spongey.
You unlock most of the characters in the last section of the game which means you're stuck with a handful of well leveled characters and a bunch of under leveled characters.
I don't mean to sound really down on this , I did enjoy the game and it was fun, it just could've been really something special and instead it comes off as passable.
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Bebpo

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« Reply #36865 on: March 09, 2021, 01:21:17 PM »
My problem with Zelda musou is I don't really find any of the side characters in Zelda games interesting? So there's like Link/Zelda/Gannon and then a bunch of weirdos? It's just not very appealing to me.

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« Reply #36866 on: March 09, 2021, 01:32:00 PM »
Only good Musou spinoff is DQ, really did a good job of capturing the feel of the series and blending it

Fire Emblem: wack
Zelda: 50/50, AoC is wack
Persona: ??? haven't played
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Bebpo

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« Reply #36867 on: March 09, 2021, 01:59:28 PM »
One Piece & Gundam are good if you like the franchises.

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« Reply #36868 on: March 09, 2021, 10:54:53 PM »
Persona Strikers is good. It barely counts as a musou though.

Bebpo

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« Reply #36869 on: March 10, 2021, 04:02:20 AM »
DQVIIr - Finished the petrified rain town elopers story and the roamer camp story where a certain party member leaves. Was pretty good, you can go visit their graves in the present right after which is kinda sad.

At the Dharma/Alltrades Abbey island now so will be able to start on jobs soon, yay. This game is slow but great.

Spieler1

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36870 on: March 10, 2021, 06:16:22 AM »
replayed Streets of Rage 4 and Sonic Mania. :lawd Some of the best Sega games ever made. And they aren't even made by Sega. In fact, I find it concerning that they are giving all their IP away to random people while focusing on nonsense like Sakura Wars internally. But if these are the results, so be it.

Now, can anybody pick up the mantle of Shinobi 3?  :bow

Svejk

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« Reply #36871 on: March 10, 2021, 08:19:40 AM »
Sega is so damn lazy now it seems... either that, or they're too afraid to take those risks like they use to during their hardware era.  Grow a pair, Sega.  DO SOMETHING!!

How hard is it for them to even port a Shinobi & Nightshade HD bundle??

tiesto

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« Reply #36872 on: March 10, 2021, 11:26:05 AM »
A smattering of stuff. Still going through 3D World, wrapping up some of the last stars I missed in the postgame worlds before challenging Champion's Road.

Started playing Moon: RPG Remix Adventure but I didn't really like it. It wasn't what I expected at all, more of an adventure game where you wait around for people to be in the right place at the right time (i.e. like Majora's Mask), and none of the guides are good... I end up just keeling over and dying because I run out of stamina. I'm not a huge fan of 'quirky' games but this came so highly praised to me so I dunno, maybe I'll have to bear with it.

Also been playing The Ultimate DOOM on Hurt Me Plenty... it's quite a bit tougher than I remember, seems I'm swamped with enemies on this difficulty... especially hate the invisible pink demons. I should've probably done the Not Too Rough difficulty... but on E1M7 now. I haven't played this game since 1995 so it's a nice trip down memory lane, even if the "hit a switch and get bum rushed by enemies" is wearing on me...

The main game I'm concentrating on now is Seiken 3 (Trials of Mana on the Mana Collection). It's giving me a ton of nostalgia since the original SFC game was one of my first imports... I made it to the final boss back in the day but then my brother saved over my game :P The music especially hits me, I love Kikuta. But the combat is a bit clunkier than I remember, and the dungeon design is mediocre... there's no real reward for explanation, and going down the wrong path means you're trapped and forced into a fight. There's the occasional puzzle, but FFA and SOM had much more interesting dungeon design. I also don't like how there's no way to avoid attacks and magic spells, just hope RNGesus and your Dexterity stat are working in your favor. I need to play the remake since I hear it fixes a lot of the problems while still remaining true to the original.

Right now in Seiken 3 I just hit level 18 and did my first class change, now I have to go meet Undine in the ice fields. Using a team of Duran, Riesz, and Charlotte.
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36873 on: March 10, 2021, 06:40:19 PM »
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« Reply #36874 on: March 10, 2021, 08:41:54 PM »
Trying my hand at Horizon this game just screams "EARLY GEN TITLE!!" I feel like most of it exists to show off pretty landscapes. The faces would've blown my mind....back at the beginning of PS4. And the animation is stilted. The story is "meh" with some perplexing choices (Oh the Sun king wants to marry me after I talked to him twice) and the facial animation and overall animation is jank.  I am not a real fan of the combat so far as it seems to up its difficulty not by making enemies different or smarter, but just absorb more damage. I think if I had played this when it came out it would've blown my mind. But this late in the Gen? It's sorta underwhelming

Started 13 sentinels I'm really only about 1 hour in so far. Very surprised at how visual novel-esque it is. I know people said to expect it but so far it's been like 85% visual novel. I wasn't expecting the balance to be so one sided. Not that it's bad, I like VNs but still sorta surprised. Too early to tell, but I do have to laugh at the tropes  "Oh you have to pilot these naked? Of course! And he's dressed up like a hot school girl? Yeah, that's expected. And the big tough bad guy has conflicting feelings about school girl guy? Welp, I'd be surprised if he didn't!"
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« Reply #36875 on: March 11, 2021, 05:39:15 AM »
I'm getting deep into Switch games that have no business being on the Switch. At present, I'm playing Thief Simulator. It's a proper 'bought it on Steam for 59p' janky-ass PC game but I'm fucking loving it. Nowt like mooching around in a burglary sandbox while the missus watches TV. I also grabbed Cooking Simulator and some Alaskan Wilds truck game that allowed you to adjust every last parameter for the axles (even individually adjusting ackerman angles). They're both funny in a 'these do not belong on a Nintendo' way, but neither measures up to Thief Simulator.

Next up: One of the American Truck Sims.

Edit: I should add that I wouldn't recommend anyone purchases any of this shit.
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« Reply #36876 on: March 12, 2021, 06:05:10 PM »
Got Crash 4 on PS5 since it has a $40 launch sale. Itís not the half off it had during the Christmas sale, but itís good enough.

I finished the first three worlds I think, and Itís a pretty decent platformer. It doesnít fuck around difficulty wise, but Iíve been playing platformers for 20+ years, so itís nothing too crazy.

The box locations are complete fucking dogshit though. Going at a snailís pace through a level combing through every nook only to end up missing three boxes because some cunt game designer decided to put them off-screen and behind geometry for extra measure is super infuriating  :lol

Anyways, if you like the old ones this one is worth checking out. Just donít bother going for full completion if you donít wanna off yourself.
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« Reply #36877 on: March 12, 2021, 07:15:19 PM »
Ok so I got bored of Persona 5 Strikers (it just doesnít hit the same without social sim/time management stuff) and went back to Xenoblade 2 Torna. Itís really fun with a great art style and music, but does the worst jrpg trope ever in gating story progression behind side quest completion. So when I got to the next big story event and I was super invested, they were like ďgo do at least 16 side questsĒ and the quality of them is generic jrpg dogshit. Why do games do this? Iím not interested in finding some random guyís lost keys...

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« Reply #36878 on: March 12, 2021, 07:58:57 PM »
Ok so I got bored of Persona 5 Strikers (it just doesnít hit the same without social sim/time management stuff) and went back to Xenoblade 2 Torna. Itís really fun with a great art style and music, but does the worst jrpg trope ever in gating story progression behind side quest completion. So when I got to the next big story event and I was super invested, they were like ďgo do at least 16 side questsĒ and the quality of them is generic jrpg dogshit. Why do games do this? Iím not interested in finding some random guyís lost keys...

Because it's an easy way to add content and hook the OCD/completionist set. As an OCD/completionist, I'm not a fan either, it's MMO filler design adapted for single player RPGs... a lot of the sidequests in RPGs are pretty unnecessary and rarely give interesting items/have interesting stories/have you go to unique locations/etc. I miss the days of stuff like the SNES Square sidequests.
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« Reply #36879 on: March 12, 2021, 08:06:34 PM »
So last night my power was out for 7 hours while they upgraded equipment and I played a bunch of DQVIIr and holy crap the Dharma/Alltrades island arc is BRUTAL. I felt like I just played an SMT game.

-Troll -> Depowered
-Sad depowered town
-Long cave dungeon with tons of unavoidable encounters and you have no spells and no skills and have to rely on using a 30hp heal ring every fucking turn with your 3 person party just to keep everyone alive. Including milking out every few fights defending while you heal people back to close to full HP so they don't get murdered next fight.
-Get to the end and...get trolled and used as bait and die!
-Time to do the mountain dungeon AGAIN...still depowered
-cliffside town
-time to do a long mazy prison dungeon with unavoidable encounters mostly while still depowered
-depowered boss fight and bosses can straight up murder one of your 3 party members in like 1 turn from full HP if they gang up and you have no heal magic
-back to clifftown
-Bottom half dharma dungeon - STILL depowered
-FINALLY GET POWERS BACK FUCK YEAH
-...In time for Coliseum arc!

Stopped there last night, but yeah was like non-stop hard survival battling.

Though at least in the first part of the game, the MP ring is insane. Can spam magic and then use it a few turns and be back at full MP. So I guess this was like making up for that overpowered item they gave you a few arcs back making life breezy.

Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36880 on: March 13, 2021, 05:52:55 AM »
Everything about Torna is just a fucking chore. Menus are slow, movement is slow, dialogue is slow. Thereís like a second of dead air between every spoken line and itís really painful. Also the cutscene direction is some of the worst Iíve ever seen. Random shots of characters out of frame, random shots of unimportant scenery or the sky, super stilted animations, weird zoom ins and outs. Who the hell is in charge of this dogshit? Anyways Iím enjoying the combat but thatís literally it. At least it has that going for it.

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36881 on: March 13, 2021, 06:55:07 AM »
Crash 4 PS5 is nice. 99% same game as PS4 version but the higher resolution got rid of the softness/slight blur the PS4 version had and now it's sharp and crisp. Since it's a really good looking game the IQ improvement is nice. Load times are maybe a second or two shorter. Pretty much the same game.

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36882 on: March 13, 2021, 09:41:46 AM »
Duke Nukem Forever: The Doctor Who Cloned Me

This shit's mental but much more enjoyable than the original game :titus
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36883 on: March 13, 2021, 02:36:16 PM »
DQVIIr - So continuing all the crazy hard stuff from the Alltrades island arc, the colesium then is a six boss fight in a row match which takes a good 10-15 mins to get to #6 and then the sixth boss can basically 1 turn wipe party members with some bad luck. Especially because these bosses like to hit hard AND have first turn to act. So they knock out 50% of your HP in one turn and the next turn before you can heal it they knock out the other 50%.

I barely survived, this is the first DQ I'm using up all my revive leaf items. Usually I never touch those and just hoard them. They've gotten me through a few bosses where someone died.

The final boss for that arc was easier, but still had an orb attack that hits 2 random party members for 90 damage. Which is a lot when your party members max HP is like 110-130HP and you can only heal one character for 75HP and one for 30HP in a round with 2 characters.

Also only having 3 party members is rough on top of everything this arc. Sure you get a 4th slot NPC often, but they aren't controllable and who knows what they'll do so you gotta dig in and play defense.

So finished it up and got JOBS and started re-learning how DQ Job systems work since it's been a while. I forgot that basic jobs are "fuck your stats in exchange for giving you permenant cross-job skills/spells" so everyone has shitty stats now and like barely 100HP. But cross-job classing is nice and quickly getting some useful stuff for party building. Again, having a 3 person party definitely makes it tougher.

One thing I would have liked is if DQVII had monster recruiting like DQV for party member spots. Yeah I know you can get their hearts through tedious ways mostly and learn them as a job, but that means wasting a lot of time fighting 100-200 battles to get some stuff you could have spent those battles on your main jobs. I got the heal slime heart that has multiheal at 180 battles but I don't know when I want to sacrifice losing 180 battles going towards my main job growth just to get that spell. Monster party members you can just recruit and swap in to fill out the party at times would've helped.

Then again when I get the rest of the party members it'll be fine.


I gotta say, the writing in DQVII is excellent. This is one of the best written jrpgs so far and I can see why people love this game and I gotta imagine it'd be pretty mindblowing back in 2001 along with stuff like Xenogears/FF7-9. The stories don't have insane amount of cutscenes or anything but they're very fleshed out for the tales and settings they are doing and tend to have a whole handful of npc characters whose stories progress through the island tale.

Like in Alltrades island arc you have your main story of your group, but also the story of this girl and her little brother and the swashbuckling priestess guard, the story of the town gang that run the depowered town, the story of the theif who wants to become a priestess guard, and it all weaves through the tale of reclaiming your powers and taking back the temple. During the course you end up pairing with the theif, the swashbuckler, the kid and priestess as battle 4th npc members. It's really involved.

Also the party talk is INSANE in this game. Holy hell we're talking Trails of level of dialogue. I can't believe there are 1-2 sentence party reactions after like every NPC you talk to. I'm sure I'm missing half of them, but what is there is great and fleshes things out.

And I started the next bit in the present and got the carpet and I totally forgot DQ series has flying magic carpets. That's pretty charming.


I gotta say that at this point about 24 hours in, I'd put DQ7 over DQ11. In story I think these story arcs are better than the DQ11 towns and in gameplay DQ11 was zzz easy outside the final superbosses and here the game is actually legit challenging this early on and the job system gives a lot of build variety that DQ11 lacks. DQ7 also has more and better music.

This might end up being one of my favorite DQs, I just hope it doesn't get too grindy later on to progress through the story, especially with all the battles needed to master jobs. I haven't had to grind yet and I'm a little underleveled for the areas (I just hit lvl.18 and Alltrades final dungeon lvl cap was lvl.20). The leveling is incredibly slow because of the length of the game. So much that fighting normal battles and getting xp/gold feels really incremental since you can fight battles for an hour or so before you gain 1 level and only get enough gold for like 1 weapon or 1 piece of armor from those 50 battles you just fought.

But it's a long game and the slow progression works and the way the stories are chaptered and talking/story focused makes it all good.

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36884 on: March 13, 2021, 06:29:30 PM »
More Xenoblade, lvl 74 now.

I think I can go to what I think is the final boss but I'm doing some quests first.
There are quite a few interesting side quests in the end game.
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36885 on: March 13, 2021, 06:31:27 PM »
The ending is real good, so don't wait too long.

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36886 on: March 13, 2021, 07:51:42 PM »
The ending is real good, so don't wait too long.
I'm trying to do some sort of Ritual for Melia but that involves getting back into places where level 80 Telethia are roaming  :yeshrug

So instead I've been hanging with the Nopon  8)
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36887 on: March 14, 2021, 01:11:04 AM »
FF X. Last time I was peak stoner teen phase 20 years ago   :stahp

I'd forgotten a lot of little things of course. and it feels fresh. The encounter rate is great, fights are fast, the system straddles a really nice line of simplicity and strategy. Love having all team members available and constantly switching out the battle lines. So far one of the best ff replays I've done (just got to macalania), downsides being blitzball sucks and the temple puzzles are tedious and boring from the very first encounter.
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36888 on: March 14, 2021, 01:11:19 AM »
Inside - Uhhhh, I sorta assumed with all the acclaim that this game was going to be a 6-8 hour adventure. When it ended I thought it was just another segment and then ...the credits rolled.

Insanely good art direction & animation, good puzzles/controls, but honestly it felt like half a game? Can't say I loved it given where it ends, but it was good. Definitely better than Limbo. Will check out their next game for sure.



Also this section was very disturbing   :dayum

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36889 on: March 14, 2021, 01:53:01 PM »
The ending to Inside pissed me off beyond belief.  Shit ending.  Never in my life have I yelled "THAT'S IT?!?!?!?" as loud as I did when I finished that game.

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36890 on: March 14, 2021, 01:54:22 PM »
Duke Nukem Forever: The Doctor Who Cloned Me

This shit's mental but much more enjoyable than the original game :titus
Finished it.

Ok, for 88 cents :trumps
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36891 on: March 14, 2021, 03:01:46 PM »
About 5 hours in FFXV:RE.  Gotta say, I had no interest in this game when launched, but now, I am sucked.  Even watched Kingsglaive prior (which was actually not bad).  Although the battle system isnít as balls fun as FFVIIR is, but itís still fun.

Also jumped back into my second run of Strider (2014).  Originally played it on PS3, this time on PS4/5.  Finished getting all the fallen strider outfits last nightÖ  Itís such a damn shame that Amazon bought and destroyed Double Helix.  :( They did such a stellar job on this game.  They absolutely nailed 2.5D action platforming to such an immaculate degree.  This game is right up there with Bionic Commando: ReArmed.   

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36892 on: March 14, 2021, 09:06:38 PM »
Trying my hand at Horizon this game just screams "EARLY GEN TITLE!!" I feel like most of it exists to show off pretty landscapes. The faces would've blown my mind....back at the beginning of PS4. And the animation is stilted. The story is "meh" with some perplexing choices (Oh the Sun king wants to marry me after I talked to him twice) and the facial animation and overall animation is jank.  I am not a real fan of the combat so far as it seems to up its difficulty not by making enemies different or smarter, but just absorb more damage. I think if I had played this when it came out it would've blown my mind. But this late in the Gen? It's sorta underwhelming

Started 13 sentinels I'm really only about 1 hour in so far. Very surprised at how visual novel-esque it is. I know people said to expect it but so far it's been like 85% visual novel. I wasn't expecting the balance to be so one sided. Not that it's bad, I like VNs but still sorta surprised. Too early to tell, but I do have to laugh at the tropes  "Oh you have to pilot these naked? Of course! And he's dressed up like a hot school girl? Yeah, that's expected. And the big tough bad guy has conflicting feelings about school girl guy? Welp, I'd be surprised if he didn't!"

Yeah, the facial animation is one of the really low points of production value in H:ZD. Apparently the DLC has substantially better animation in its cutscenes, but by the time I finished the main storyline, the game had already overstayed its welcome with me.


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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36893 on: March 14, 2021, 09:09:57 PM »
I'm getting deep into Switch games that have no business being on the Switch. At present, I'm playing Thief Simulator. It's a proper 'bought it on Steam for 59p' janky-ass PC game but I'm fucking loving it. Nowt like mooching around in a burglary sandbox while the missus watches TV. I also grabbed Cooking Simulator and some Alaskan Wilds truck game that allowed you to adjust every last parameter for the axles (even individually adjusting ackerman angles). They're both funny in a 'these do not belong on a Nintendo' way, but neither measures up to Thief Simulator.

Next up: One of the American Truck Sims.

Edit: I should add that I wouldn't recommend anyone purchases any of this shit.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/704850/Thief_Simulator/
It's $20 on Steam, and there's a bundle for the VR version! I bet it's a puke-inducer in VR.

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36894 on: March 15, 2021, 09:15:28 AM »
About 5 hours in FFXV:RE.  Gotta say, I had no interest in this game when launched, but now, I am sucked.  Even watched Kingsglaive prior (which was actually not bad).  Although the battle system isnít as balls fun as FFVIIR is, but itís still fun.

Also jumped back into my second run of Strider (2014).  Originally played it on PS3, this time on PS4/5.  Finished getting all the fallen strider outfits last nightÖ  Itís such a damn shame that Amazon bought and destroyed Double Helix.  :( They did such a stellar job on this game.  They absolutely nailed 2.5D action platforming to such an immaculate degree.  This game is right up there with Bionic Commando: ReArmed.

Did Strider 2014 ever get a physical release? I played the NES Strider a few months ago and that compelled me to want to give this one a try. Usually I have hestitation about western devs following up on Japanese classics but lately there's been some good ones (SOR4 and Monster Boy in particular).
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36895 on: March 15, 2021, 09:39:19 AM »
About 5 hours in FFXV:RE.  Gotta say, I had no interest in this game when launched, but now, I am sucked.  Even watched Kingsglaive prior (which was actually not bad).  Although the battle system isnít as balls fun as FFVIIR is, but itís still fun.

Also jumped back into my second run of Strider (2014).  Originally played it on PS3, this time on PS4/5.  Finished getting all the fallen strider outfits last nightÖ  Itís such a damn shame that Amazon bought and destroyed Double Helix.  :( They did such a stellar job on this game.  They absolutely nailed 2.5D action platforming to such an immaculate degree.  This game is right up there with Bionic Commando: ReArmed.

Did Strider 2014 ever get a physical release? I played the NES Strider a few months ago and that compelled me to want to give this one a try. Usually I have hestitation about western devs following up on Japanese classics but lately there's been some good ones (SOR4 and Monster Boy in particular).
Not sure about the physical aspect ( I want to say no), but if you like Strider in any shape or form; NES and/or the Genesis version or Strider 2 (PS1), you really ought to play this.  It is a Metroidvania too, not just an action game.  They put a lot of care into this reboot.  They pulled music tracks from both versions as well (NES & Genesis)  ;)
If this doesn't pump you up....  8)


It controls as tight as it looks too.  This game was most highly underrated imo. 
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36896 on: March 15, 2021, 02:45:18 PM »
Everything about Torna is just a fucking chore. Menus are slow, movement is slow, dialogue is slow. Thereís like a second of dead air between every spoken line and itís really painful. Also the cutscene direction is some of the worst Iíve ever seen. Random shots of characters out of frame, random shots of unimportant scenery or the sky, super stilted animations, weird zoom ins and outs. Who the hell is in charge of this dogshit? Anyways Iím enjoying the combat but thatís literally it. At least it has that going for it.
I'm playing XB2 right now. Is Torna something you do after you finish if you want? Is it worth doing?

Bebpo like I said DQVII was my favorite after III. That being said, after the DS remake and especially after XI it just hasn't aged well. Most people aren't good with investing the massive amount of time to get through it and I totally get it.
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36897 on: March 15, 2021, 04:10:51 PM »
Torna takes place before XB2 and is during Jin's time before he became all wishy washy evil

(hint: because he's a simp who cant let go)
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36898 on: March 15, 2021, 05:30:33 PM »
Bebpo like I said DQVII was my favorite after III. That being said, after the DS remake and especially after XI it just hasn't aged well. Most people aren't good with investing the massive amount of time to get through it and I totally get it.

Is 3 still gonna hold up after 4-6/7/11? Because I hear a lot of people like it since it was the first to have the job system, but after the job systems of the later games, especially if I play it right after 7, not sure if it'll just feel more restrictive.

I'm planning on playing 3 after 7 since people seem just kinda alright on 1/2 and they're short & simple (sounds like FF1/2) and I can play them last in my DQ catchup.

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36899 on: March 15, 2021, 06:34:58 PM »
Bebpo like I said DQVII was my favorite after III. That being said, after the DS remake and especially after XI it just hasn't aged well. Most people aren't good with investing the massive amount of time to get through it and I totally get it.

Is 3 still gonna hold up after 4-6/7/11? Because I hear a lot of people like it since it was the first to have the job system, but after the job systems of the later games, especially if I play it right after 7, not sure if it'll just feel more restrictive.

I'm planning on playing 3 after 7 since people seem just kinda alright on 1/2 and they're short & simple (sounds like FF1/2) and I can play them last in my DQ catchup.
I think the main reason that I love 3 so much is how it ties the first trilogy all together. I don't know how it would be without 1 and 2, but I do know it wouldn't be anywhere near as high in regard without that.
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