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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36480 on: January 08, 2021, 09:02:17 AM »
Rayman Advance was on my copy of Rayman 3 too. Man, you can't see shit when it comes to upcoming obstacles. I imagine it wasn't like this on PS1.

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« Reply #36481 on: January 08, 2021, 05:30:28 PM »
A bit late to the party but I finally finished RDR2. Easily a top 10 game. John being all sweet to Abigail in the penultimate mission was so adorable.

Also I just realized that the land across the river from Beecher's Hope is actually explorable if you find the bridge. It's huge wtf, is this Mexico? The South/Southwest third of the map is all greyed out for me. Now I have to ride around and explore for a few hours more.

I think next on my list is Tell Me Why and Ace Combat 7. I wanna take a break from 60 hour adventure games, they take months for me to finish.

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« Reply #36482 on: January 08, 2021, 10:08:27 PM »
A bit late to the party but I finally finished RDR2. Easily a top 10 game. John being all sweet to Abigail in the penultimate mission was so adorable.

Also I just realized that the land across the river from Beecher's Hope is actually explorable if you find the bridge. It's huge wtf, is this Mexico? The South/Southwest third of the map is all greyed out for me. Now I have to ride around and explore for a few hours more.

I think next on my list is Tell Me Why and Ace Combat 7. I wanna take a break from 60 hour adventure games, they take months for me to finish.
??? You mean New Austin and that area? That's (half of) RDR1's map, basically without the Mexico half.
There's a couple of nice easter eggs and side missions to do, not much else unfortunately.

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« Reply #36483 on: January 09, 2021, 11:48:18 PM »
Kind of a weird take but I'm kinda feeling over Picross. That's weird, because that's like disliking crossword puzzles or math or something.

Playing S1 on Switch, I felt like for the first 20-40 puzzles there wasn't much/any guessing involved and if you process of elimination ran the numbers in the rows it'd all come together and was pretty satisfying. Like if you've got a 7 you don't know where those 7 are exactly, but you know the middle 4 blocks have to be solid either way so you can fill them in and work from them to figure out other lines.

But now I'm like 60 or 80 in and it feels like the difficulty has ramped up so even doing all that process of elimination stuff you're left with a ton where you have no idea where anything is. So for me it comes down to just randomly guessing where a row is that only has maybe 2-3 choices so the guess is 50% or 33% likely correct and then working the rest of the puzzle from there. Only most of the time I get to the end and it doesn't work, so my initial guess was wrong and I gotta try shifting things around and I just kinda give up and check for errors to finish it up.

Maybe I need to read some guides on how to be good at Picross, because maybe the way I'm doing it just isn't the most efficient and I need to git gud. Because right now it's just not very satisfying. Also all the pictures suck. I miss Picross 3DS with the cool 3d pixel art.

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« Reply #36484 on: January 10, 2021, 01:27:34 AM »
Finished act 3 in Divinity OS2 and got to the final act in Baldur's G~~~errr Arx City.

Yeah, I dunno what the developers were smoking when they said they expanded Act 3 with the DE and there's like 30 hours of content. I did everything on the Nameless Isle and I was out of there in about 9 hours. Still staying in-sync with the 20%/40%/10%/30% breakdown I saw of the acts, so sounds like the final act should be a nice meaty 30 hours of city questing. Would be curious to look up the DE changes for that act to see how much shorter it was even in the original release.

Act 3 was ok. Definitely an oddball section in this game. For a game that's all about questing/dialogue & combat, there were barely any quests on the island, very few people to talk to and almost no combat scenarios. Was just like a lot of walking around and puzzle solving and teleporting puzzles mostly. I get what they were going for with a deserted ancient jungle island to explore, but it just doesn't play to the strengths of the game.

Glad to be back in an area with lots of people to talk to and hopefully quests to take on. Guess I'll finish this in the next 1-2 weeks at this rate.

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« Reply #36485 on: January 10, 2021, 01:35:11 AM »
finally got aorund to checking out Dead Cells. Seems really cool so far, lovely graphics, animation and music. Gameplay loop and hooks seem solid.
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« Reply #36486 on: January 10, 2021, 03:06:21 AM »
So after being fatigued from a massive RPG that takes me a month+ to get through with Ď77, I obviously decided to go ahead and buy and start playing Persona 5 Royale with Cheese. Iíve been waiting a while for them to announce a Switch version. Knowing my luck, theyíll announce one in 2 months (year after original release).

I had a pretty good time with P4G a couple of years back, and this feels like a more refined version of that. Biggest improvements is having actual human-designed dungeons with actual level-design instead of the randomly generated dogshit from 4. Improvements to the combat system, and exploration are really cool too.

Iím 11 hours in, and about 70% through the first palace. The railroading is kinda ridiculous so far though, but Iím guessing the game opens up after Iím done with this ďtutorialĒ palace.
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« Reply #36487 on: January 10, 2021, 06:09:50 AM »
finally got aorund to checking out Dead Cells. Seems really cool so far, lovely graphics, animation and music. Gameplay loop and hooks seem solid.

If ur on pc get the castlevania ost mod

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« Reply #36488 on: January 10, 2021, 07:09:40 AM »
Kind of a weird take but I'm kinda feeling over Picross. That's weird, because that's like disliking crossword puzzles or math or something.

Playing S1 on Switch, I felt like for the first 20-40 puzzles there wasn't much/any guessing involved and if you process of elimination ran the numbers in the rows it'd all come together and was pretty satisfying. Like if you've got a 7 you don't know where those 7 are exactly, but you know the middle 4 blocks have to be solid either way so you can fill them in and work from them to figure out other lines.

But now I'm like 60 or 80 in and it feels like the difficulty has ramped up so even doing all that process of elimination stuff you're left with a ton where you have no idea where anything is. So for me it comes down to just randomly guessing where a row is that only has maybe 2-3 choices so the guess is 50% or 33% likely correct and then working the rest of the puzzle from there. Only most of the time I get to the end and it doesn't work, so my initial guess was wrong and I gotta try shifting things around and I just kinda give up and check for errors to finish it up.

Maybe I need to read some guides on how to be good at Picross, because maybe the way I'm doing it just isn't the most efficient and I need to git gud. Because right now it's just not very satisfying. Also all the pictures suck. I miss Picross 3DS with the cool 3d pixel art.
If you're after a change of pace, try Slither Loop on Switch. It's another logic game. Kind of a cross between Minesweeper and something else which I can't put my finger on right now.
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« Reply #36489 on: January 10, 2021, 07:23:02 AM »
Kind of a weird take but I'm kinda feeling over Picross. That's weird, because that's like disliking crossword puzzles or math or something.
It's not that weird. I recently finished most puzzles in S5 and even though I still enjoy the series I like them less for each release. I'd prefer fewer releases and more innovation.

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« Reply #36490 on: January 10, 2021, 11:55:47 PM »
After almost 175 hours, I'm finally up to the final boss of CS4. Will beat sometime this week... shit, this is perhaps the longest RPG I've ever played...
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« Reply #36491 on: January 11, 2021, 01:36:56 PM »
Star Renegades

I wasn't sure about this at first, but I've played 16 hours now and beaten it twice. The battle system is awesome (a timeline system based on interrupts and combos). The items are well-designed, characters can play very differently based on what you find. The leveling system is great at letting you customize too, experience is a shared resource so you might decide to level equally or to leave someone behind to get max level elsewhere. My only real complaint is how long each run takes, which goes against the idea of truly playing it like a roguelike. But if you think of it as a short rpg it's worth it just to beat it once.

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« Reply #36492 on: January 11, 2021, 09:28:05 PM »
Almost gave up on death stranding that beginning if AWFUL. But I stuck it out and it's starting to "click" a bit. You gotta play it for helping others, not so much for yourself. That makes it bearable and honestly a little intriguing.

But I actually totally see why it would be so hated. If you're wanting an Assassin's Creed, or God of War or even Metal Gear Solid, this is nowhere even close to any of those.

Still Kojima needs a "George Lucas's Wife". Someone there to tell him "No. Are you crazy? No." Someone really should have been "Do you REALLY need the grenades to be of poop?"
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« Reply #36493 on: January 12, 2021, 03:45:49 AM »
Star Renegades

I wasn't sure about this at first, but I've played 16 hours now and beaten it twice. The battle system is awesome (a timeline system based on interrupts and combos). The items are well-designed, characters can play very differently based on what you find. The leveling system is great at letting you customize too, experience is a shared resource so you might decide to level equally or to leave someone behind to get max level elsewhere. My only real complaint is how long each run takes, which goes against the idea of truly playing it like a roguelike. But if you think of it as a short rpg it's worth it just to beat it once.

How long is a run? And can you save mid-run?

Bebpo

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« Reply #36494 on: January 12, 2021, 03:47:34 AM »
At first I thought Arx city in Divinity OS2 chapter 4 was kinda small. But then I started going through the buildings and every building has its own story and like 30-90 mins of questing/exploring. Like Driftwood it's really dense even if the city size isn't Baldur's Gate or anything. Did a bunch and hit lvl.19. Definitely moving along. Probably covered like 1/4th the city so far.

Also the difficulty stat jumps in Act 4 are kinda bullshit. I looked it up and that's the general consensus. They just give every enemy thousands of HP/Armors and strong enough to 1-2 shot your characters. I've been sticking on classic difficulty and making it through so far (had a glitch in one major fight where one character, Ifan, became invincible and was at 0 HP but would never die lol), but every fight is like 30 mins+ battle because of the # grind.

I read a comment that said in the DE they halved player armor/HP but kept enemy armor/HP the same...because the original was too easy? Idk, I may drop down a difficulty just to speed up some of these fights. It's fun beating them when they're tough, but like I did a 20-30 min fight outside the school and the enemies just ran away when low on life after 20-30 mins of intense fighting which was not really satisfying -_-

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« Reply #36495 on: January 12, 2021, 05:22:23 AM »
." Someone really should have been "Do you REALLY need the grenades to be of poop?"

That was one of the only aspects of the game I enjoyed. Dick out, walking toward BTs and pissing on them.

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« Reply #36496 on: January 12, 2021, 06:19:16 AM »
Almost gave up on death stranding that beginning if AWFUL. But I stuck it out and it's starting to "click" a bit. You gotta play it for helping others, not so much for yourself. That makes it bearable and honestly a little intriguing.

But I actually totally see why it would be so hated. If you're wanting an Assassin's Creed, or God of War or even Metal Gear Solid, this is nowhere even close to any of those.

Still Kojima needs a "George Lucas's Wife". Someone there to tell him "No. Are you crazy? No." Someone really should have been "Do you REALLY need the grenades to be of poop?"

"Are you crazy? No." would ruin every Kojima game, though.

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« Reply #36497 on: January 12, 2021, 01:14:15 PM »
I picked up Sam and Max Hit The Road in the holiday sale. Definitely worth a couple bucks. Great performances, Sam is funny as hell compared to the telltale stuff where he's a little more restrained. The art and music must have been next level on release, as it still looks great. Very brief little game, only about six hours, but definitely made use of the time. A little much on the cartoon logic (corkscrew puzzle :| ) but that's just a sign of the times it was made in. Maybe I'll pick up Monkey Island 2 after this.

I'm going back and giving second chances to extremely popular games that I'd otherwise written off, meaning that I put a few hours into The Last Of Us yesterday. The performances were great and the dialogue is fine if overly expository, but good god what a bore to interact with. So much of this game is traversal - walking down hallways and moving dumpsters and boosting people up ledges, and none of it is anything other than strictly functional. At the same time, the atmosphere of the first couple clicker encounters was fun and tense, but the game is utterly unconvinced with curating that experience. Being an interactive work, these first impressions should matter - the moment when I turned around and realized the clickers were following my light steps was a genuinely fun one, and a moment I recall better than the actual cutscene in which the clickers were introduced, but in the five seconds that follow my ally comes STOMP STOMP STOMP sprinting through the scene, bantering over a previously tense moment. Lord help me for invoking Kojima, but just comparing the first clicker encounter to the first BT encounters in Death Stranding, the BT's have a clear authority that is not undermined in the same sequence they're introduced. It takes many hours to get the upper hand on the BT's. Yet here Joel's instinct mastery of bricks and your loud yet undetectable friends reveal them for the haunted house animatronics they are. The only authority clickers have is within a noninteractive context, utterly apathetic to the emotions that I feel while in control.

I'm reminded of the first shooting sequence in the game, cynically set against the waist high boxes we all know and love. The game goes to great lengths to establish just how few humans there are, and with Joel's daughter still fresh in the players mind to immediately throw you into a situation so knowingly disposable communicates it's goals more than anything else. It's a contrived scenario for a contrived medium, presenting to the player upfront the divorced atmosphere of its mechanical interactions against an ostensibly human backdrop. It knows that the gameplay doesn't amount to anything more than the shooting gallery filler between story beats and doesn't even do the bare minimum to acknowledge the tension of the interactive sequences.  Why would it? The story flows better if you pretend so many of these sequences don't exist. They're commercial breaks.

Verdict: I was going to see this through to the end but it actively feels like it takes up too much of my time for how much enjoyment I'm getting out of this. This seems like a game best experienced in 50% fast forward on youtube. I actually had better memories of this.  :-\
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« Reply #36498 on: January 12, 2021, 04:01:11 PM »
Grandia for the Saturn. Not as magical as I remember it, but still charming. I'm one dungeon away from finishing disc 1.

I'm using this translation patch: https://segaxtreme.net/threads/translating-grandia.24330/page-34#post-179252

They've recently added subtitled cutscenes. Wasn't impossible to play before (I started with .85), but more complete more better. Finding the right version for patching can be a hassle. I can point the way if necessary.

Runs pretty much perfect using Mednafen, aside from a couple loading hitches before FMVs and voiced cutscenes (which might be accurate to real hardware, I don't know).

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« Reply #36499 on: January 12, 2021, 04:02:48 PM »
I picked up Sam and Max Hit The Road in the holiday sale. Definitely worth a couple bucks. Great performances, Sam is funny as hell compared to the telltale stuff where he's a little more restrained. The art and music must have been next level on release, as it still looks great. Very brief little game, only about six hours, but definitely made use of the time. A little much on the cartoon logic (corkscrew puzzle :| ) but that's just a sign of the times it was made in. Maybe I'll pick up Monkey Island 2 after this.

Still one of the GOATs from the 90s. :preach
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« Reply #36500 on: January 12, 2021, 04:05:01 PM »
Sam and Max Hit the Road was one of the first games I played when I got a CD-ROM drive for my PC in 1994. It was amazing. I replayed it about a year ago and I could still remember the solutions to all the puzzles, but yeah, they are a few that are pretty wack. I remembered being stuck on the Alligator puzzle forever for some reason, although it didn't really seem hard in retrospect.
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« Reply #36501 on: January 12, 2021, 04:51:47 PM »
Sam and Max Hit the Road was one of the first games I played when I got a CD-ROM drive for my PC in 1994. It was amazing. I replayed it about a year ago and I could still remember the solutions to all the puzzles, but yeah, they are a few that are pretty wack. I remembered being stuck on the Alligator puzzle forever for some reason, although it didn't really seem hard in retrospect.

Why do I have to set the bucket of fish on the dock before I can use it on the golf club?!  :rage

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« Reply #36502 on: January 12, 2021, 05:17:03 PM »
Grandia for the Saturn. Not as magical as I remember it, but still charming. I'm one dungeon away from finishing disc 1.

I'm using this translation patch: https://segaxtreme.net/threads/translating-grandia.24330/page-34#post-179252

They've recently added subtitled cutscenes. Wasn't impossible to play before (I started with .85), but more complete more better. Finding the right version for patching can be a hassle. I can point the way if necessary.

Runs pretty much perfect using Mednafen, aside from a couple loading hitches before FMVs and voiced cutscenes (which might be accurate to real hardware, I don't know).

I replayed Grandia 1 during the late PS2 era and thought it still held up pretty well. Not perfect, but it's a great adventure rpg and that soundtrack is godly.

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« Reply #36503 on: January 12, 2021, 05:19:15 PM »
Any specific reason you're playing the Saturn version of Grandia over the PS1 version, or the remaster for that matter?
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« Reply #36504 on: January 12, 2021, 05:24:20 PM »
So in Divinity OS2 one of the quests I did last night was like "Bad guys want to drop a nuke on the city, player choice afterwards 1) don't drop nuke on city, 2) drop nuke on city" and while I picked don't drop nuke on the city I'm actively questing in and is the location for the entire endgame, I looked up to see if picking to nuke the city just basically kills everyone and there's no more endgame story and you just walk to the ending because everyone good & bad are all dead.

...and yeah, that is what happens.

 :clap

That's what I want to see in my crpgs. Choices and actual logical follow up. I did another quest where a loan shark steals my soul for money, so I was wondering if I could find where she stashed it and pickpocket it back because that's logical. And I could! And I could even then tell her I stole it back and then she goes psycho and fights me. Apparently other options if you steal it back is when she comes to get the money back you can just say no and she can't do anything because she can't find your soul.

I wouldn't say that OS2 is as narratively complex in quest branching as the top Obsidian stuff like New Vegas/Pillars or Black Isle stuff like Fallout 2, but right behind that and heads & tails above most modern crpgs like Bioware/Bethesda and Outer Worlds Obsidian? Yeah, for sure.

And I'd argue that quest complexity & branching is the most important aspect of any crpg. You can have a weak story, you can have a whatever battle system, but if you have good quest designs, the game will be worth playing.

Hopefully OS1 and Baldur's Gate 3 are as good in complexity of quest branching. The closer I'm getting to finishing OS2 the more I think I'm gonna play OS1 even if I gotta just run through it with cheats because there's not much mod support and a lot of QoL stuff may be pretty rough. But I'm definitely interested in another full OS game full of good questing.

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« Reply #36505 on: January 12, 2021, 06:30:03 PM »
Any specific reason you're playing the Saturn version of Grandia over the PS1 version, or the remaster for that matter?
I was curious about the differences to the PS port, mostly. Some things are better on Saturn (sprites, ground and battle textures, less slowdown), some on PS (spell effects, actual transparencies). As for the remaster, I just didn't like the look of the upscaled assets. :doge

Here's a comparison of the Saturn version and HD remaster (which is based on the PS port):
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1932732522


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« Reply #36506 on: January 12, 2021, 06:54:38 PM »
Yeah, I remember the Saturn version being better. I played it on PS1.

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« Reply #36507 on: January 12, 2021, 07:46:57 PM »
Completed Control. Grew to love the game more and more as I got further in. Great stuff. Still got a few sidequests and achievements to knock out and I'm keen to play the DLC.

Question: are the DLCs self contained mini-campaigns, or do they add content to the core game? I will get the DLC straight away if they add locations to the main game.
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« Reply #36508 on: January 12, 2021, 08:30:58 PM »
They are self-contained metroidvanias but you access them from the main hub.

The first DLC is a legit good mini-metroidvania.
The Alan Wake DLC is weaker imo.

The Sceneman

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« Reply #36509 on: January 12, 2021, 08:57:00 PM »
Do your weapons and stats from the main game carry over? I will get the season pass as it's just a couple bucks more than buying a single DLC
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« Reply #36510 on: January 12, 2021, 09:27:20 PM »
Yeah, it's just like a new section in the main hub.

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« Reply #36511 on: January 12, 2021, 11:35:33 PM »
Star Renegades

I wasn't sure about this at first, but I've played 16 hours now and beaten it twice. The battle system is awesome (a timeline system based on interrupts and combos). The items are well-designed, characters can play very differently based on what you find. The leveling system is great at letting you customize too, experience is a shared resource so you might decide to level equally or to leave someone behind to get max level elsewhere. My only real complaint is how long each run takes, which goes against the idea of truly playing it like a roguelike. But if you think of it as a short rpg it's worth it just to beat it once.

How long is a run? And can you save mid-run?


Probably about 6-7 hours to win, but that's with taking time to plan out paths and moves. Losses were much faster because if you take risks trying to get optimal paths, you are more likely to lose early or be strong later. You can save and exit but there aren't multiple save slots.

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« Reply #36512 on: January 14, 2021, 11:41:02 AM »
Holy crap. I've been on this Chapter 3 of Death Stranding for about 23 hours. WTF? How long is this game?
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« Reply #36513 on: January 14, 2021, 11:52:34 AM »
Iím ripping through act 2 of Ghost of Tsushima and man they could sure fuckin use some variety in the missions, itís really overstaying its welcome.

Also, unskippable cutscenes and dialogue? Fuck you.

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« Reply #36514 on: January 14, 2021, 01:11:21 PM »
act 2 was where the game overstayed its welcome for me, even though i was really enjoying it until hitting a brick wall of "i dont want to do any of this shit anymore" :lol

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« Reply #36515 on: January 14, 2021, 02:16:45 PM »
Holy crap. I've been on this Chapter 3 of Death Stranding for about 23 hours. WTF? How long is this game?

Chapter 3 is the main game. The full game is about 40-50 hours.

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« Reply #36516 on: January 15, 2021, 03:55:06 AM »
Finished Divinity OS2 - Act IV wasnít super long but was good. Overall great game. I like how thereís really no good ending because the game is surprisingly grey area morality. I always do lawful good hero runs but man I did a lot of fucked up shit in this because things had to get done and maybe some people (or hundreds) had to die to make it happen.

Itís pretty weird that one of the most interesting plot threads (Malady) doesnít really go anywhere in this game and is setup for a sequel. I donít see how you could even do a chronological sequel with all the ending choices. Apparently it was gonna be the story of the spin-off game Fallen Heroes that basically got canned. Oh well.

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« Reply #36517 on: January 15, 2021, 04:28:15 AM »
Ok, watched most of the ending variations play out. Really impressed on the choice branching. Feels like Fallout 2 ending slides.

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« Reply #36518 on: January 16, 2021, 05:33:34 PM »
Hmm, played an hour of Divinity OS1 and got to the city at the start. It's interesting how different the game is than OS2. I thought it would be mostly the same but less. But the combat, character builds, skills, magic, etc... is pretty different. It seems simpler in execution but maybe more complex & strategic in that there's fewer options and everything seems to matter more initially.

I picked a mage + archer for the main two and playing keep away with the mage freezing/teleporting while the archer picks them off and uses crafted arrows/grenades. Definitely feels pretty different combat.

Also elemental stuff seems way bigger deal here without magical armor to protect against it. Just touching a fire surface pretty much wipes your characters initially.

Game seems a lot less forgiving than OS2.

I think I may actually like the combat more here? It's slower & more strategic than BURST BURST BURST DAMAGE EVERYONE KILL ONE GUY AT A TIME OS2.

The quest journal is pretty bad for keeping track of quests, and there's like zero mod support, which sucks.

The music is a lot more in your face and is pretty good. The VA is ooooooooooohhhh booooooooy, BAD. Like OS2 has amazing VA and in this so far the English VA is really amateurish. The default guy voice in your party is fucking terrible. Yikes.

I might play through this.

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« Reply #36519 on: January 16, 2021, 06:54:23 PM »


Been listening to the Divinity OS2 ost. It really is great. It's so rare for a western game soundtrack to stick out because they focus so much on ambiance instead of loud forefront music. Last western rpg soundtrack that stood out to me was Mass Effect 1.


Also kinda random but I was thinking about how in OS2 tanking is really useless because every enemy has a teleport and first turn just flies somewhere in a large battle area. The only provoke/aggro move is a taunt move that is a really small AoE around the tank, so outside big non-moving heavies, it's almost impossible to aggro anyone and tanks just end up being low damage dealers, low utility. I feel like to make tanking work in OS2 you'd need the aggro/taunt skill to be a battle-wide AoE or have full range single enemy provoke skills.

OS2 battles were basically just "kill the enemies super fast and if you can't one turn shot them, then try to get rid of their armor and stun-lock them so they miss a turn and then kill them next turn"

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« Reply #36520 on: January 16, 2021, 07:26:37 PM »


Been listening to the Divinity OS2 ost. It really is great. It's so rare for a western game soundtrack to stick out because they focus so much on ambiance instead of loud forefront music. Last western rpg soundtrack that stood out to me was Mass Effect 1.


Also kinda random but I was thinking about how in OS2 tanking is really useless because every enemy has a teleport and first turn just flies somewhere in a large battle area. The only provoke/aggro move is a taunt move that is a really small AoE around the tank, so outside big non-moving heavies, it's almost impossible to aggro anyone and tanks just end up being low damage dealers, low utility. I feel like to make tanking work in OS2 you'd need the aggro/taunt skill to be a battle-wide AoE or have full range single enemy provoke skills.

OS2 battles were basically just "kill the enemies super fast and if you can't one turn shot them, then try to get rid of their armor and stun-lock them so they miss a turn and then kill them next turn"

Had a solid time with OS2, but the balancing from Act 3 (especially with how it funnels your party) onward and definitely Act 4 was beyond fucking stupid. Kind weird how the Definitive Edition never addressed those difficulty spikes.

Hated the split armour system too, but loved making use of deathfog barrels as a big fuck you to the annoying enemy balance.

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36521 on: January 16, 2021, 07:31:42 PM »
The Foundation DLC in Control is so good. Loving the new story beats and mods, you can switch up your playstyle quite a bit. Awesome new locations which feel quite removed from the main game as well - was really impressed by the 'Warehouse' location. Grade A DLC.
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36522 on: January 16, 2021, 08:00:39 PM »


Been listening to the Divinity OS2 ost. It really is great. It's so rare for a western game soundtrack to stick out because they focus so much on ambiance instead of loud forefront music. Last western rpg soundtrack that stood out to me was Mass Effect 1.

Larian games have always had really fantastic scores. OS2 is certainly no exception, even though they had to bring in someone new after the death of their long-time composer Kirill Pokrovsky. BG3's soundtrack is quite nice, as well:

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36523 on: January 17, 2021, 01:48:49 AM »
The music is a lot more in your face and is pretty good. The VA is ooooooooooohhhh booooooooy, BAD. Like OS2 has amazing VA and in this so far the English VA is really amateurish. The default guy voice in your party is fucking terrible. Yikes.


OS2 is probably my favorite VA in any game, but OS is definitely my least favorite in any game. It must be the reason they focused on it so much for the sequel.

But yeah, elements are vastly better in OS. The reason it is hard to use them in OS2 is not only the armor system, but also because physical damage spells are so versatile. Maybe the craziest spell in the game is mass corpse explosion, which (despite being in the pyro category) does physical damage. And there are teleportation, blood storm, bloated corpse, grasp of the starved, healing (on undead). There are so many amazing damage and disabling spells without elements, that there is no need to use the elemental ones.


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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36524 on: January 17, 2021, 02:46:55 AM »
Yeah, people always talked about OS1/2 as moving around barrels and setting up environmental traps, etc...

But for the most part I didn't bother with any of that in OS2. Like you said, most of the stuff wasn't necessary + magic armor blocking things. My highest damage dealers in OS2 were my rogue who just backstabbed physical attacks and my archer who shot physical (mostly w/blood arrows which are just physical bonus damage) damage as well.

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« Reply #36525 on: January 17, 2021, 03:29:44 AM »
Also after 90 hours in 3 weeks of OS2, having crpg withdrawals. Really itching to jump into another game full of quest logs and xp gains.

But Hitman 3 is out in a few days and that's gonna be a 100 hour game and I'm still in the middle of DQXIs so really not a good time to start a crpg. Withdrawals are hard. I get seriously addicted to crpgs.

After Hitman 3, if I skip MH Rise in March, not playing anything new & lengthy until fall? So probably will jump into a few crpgs in the meantime. Probably play Baldur's Gate 2 EE next, though I may play the Beamdog Siege of Dragonspear campaign first since it's between BG1->BG2 and would also help getting me back in the swing of how to play BG.

Though if I want something short without the huge time commitment of a 50-100 hour crpg, might do Mass Effect 3 or KoTOR II Restored Edition or Witcher II. Maybe Vampire the Masquerade? I think that one's supposed to be <30 hours.

Probably save big long stuff like Divinity OS1 / Wasteland 3 until I'm done with BG2. Probably wanna play through Yakuza 7 this year too.

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36526 on: January 17, 2021, 05:19:34 AM »
You are getting Hitman on EGS and paying IOI another bit of cash to get your Hitman 2 levels imported?



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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36527 on: January 17, 2021, 07:38:50 AM »
Is there a graph of which Mario Kart tracks are available in which games including the remakes?  :thinking
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36528 on: January 17, 2021, 08:23:05 AM »
Is there a graph of which Mario Kart tracks are available in which games including the remakes?  :thinking
That graph already LOOKS LIKE a Mario Kart track, wtf.

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36529 on: January 17, 2021, 08:34:21 AM »
It's on Epic only? fugg :DDD

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36530 on: January 17, 2021, 09:10:31 AM »
Yeah for a year and you have to pay extra to import your Hitman 2 levels even if you already own it on steam

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36531 on: January 17, 2021, 09:47:58 AM »
Yeah for a year and you have to pay extra to import your Hitman 2 levels even if you already own it on steam
Yeah thats dumb, ill wait.

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36532 on: January 17, 2021, 10:38:11 AM »
I got Hitman 2 over christmas and by the time I'm done with it, I'll be able to get Hitman 3 at 50% off on steam  8)
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« Reply #36533 on: January 17, 2021, 11:10:57 AM »
Yeah, the Hitman Epic thing is crap, but you know how many times I replayed Hitman 1 maps in 2? Like once to check it out and then never again and put 100 hours into H2 content.

If your item unlocks carry over from Steam, I'm ok with that.

Hitman 2016 was my GoTY, 2018 was my #2 goty. These games are some of the best stealth games ever made. I'm not going to sit on it for a year because I can't play Hitman 2 levels and the storefront lacks features.


Also IOI almost went out of business trying to make these games. Hitman 2 bombed hard, Hitman 1 didn't even do well enough that SE booted them, Hitman 2 with Warner bombed, they used all their money to buy out the IP and are doing H3 indie. When was the last time you saw an indie AAA game with a budget like this?

Taking all these deals for exclusivity like Epic and PSVR got this game to exist and kept IOI alive. These are very talented devs making a high quality niche game very few people appreciate or at least purchase at or near full price. I can't hate and I'll deal with some Epic annoyances.

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36534 on: January 17, 2021, 11:14:53 AM »
I really liked doing those elusive missions in Hitman 1 though  :-\

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36535 on: January 17, 2021, 11:32:02 AM »
Well Hitman 1 maps are included free with pre-order and 2 had barely any elusives so not missing much there.

Still sucks though, sure. You can also see it as an epic store $15 tax, where if you want H2 stuff in H3 the game just costs $15 more.

Also if you want escalations (some of my favorite parts of these games) you have to pay $30 more for the deluxe edition. The base game will have them eventually, but like Hitman 2 had no escalations initially and the deluxe edition promises escalations on every level from the start.


fwiw, people are speculating that IOI really wanted and tried to get H1/2 content transferred to Epic store, but there's a good chance WB, who are dicks, aren't letting them give away content on a different store for free.

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« Reply #36536 on: January 17, 2021, 11:38:31 AM »
I understand WHY they're doing it, but it's completely counterintuitive to their whole World of Assassination thing.
If these were just 3 separate games, it'd be whatever.

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« Reply #36537 on: January 17, 2021, 11:40:32 AM »
At the end of the day, everything with Hitman has been a bit downhill since 2016/2017 season 1. This was supposed to be a GAAS game with 2018/2020 just being S2 and S3 within the same game and released episodically over two years with regular content updates.

But that's what happens when your big budget games don't sell and you keep trying to make them while keeping the lights on.

Most companies would've just bailed on the game and done something else with the hope of better sales. I think they're kind of dumb/stubborn to keep at it with Hitman, but it's obviously their passion and they have a small devoted fanbase that loves the games, so it works out for me and I'm not gonna complain.

Hope their James Bond project after this sells ok and uses some of the better ideas from these Hitman games.

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36538 on: January 17, 2021, 02:11:54 PM »
I've bought Hitman 1&2 and all DLC for both, probably put in a total of 8 or so hours into both games combined. I'd say I was a huge Hitman fan, beat 2 on expert and contracts on expert a while back. Beat Blood Money numerous times, a couple playthrus on professional. Even beat Absolution a couple of times and defended that entry in the franchise.

The series peak absolutely was Blood Money imo. I guess it's the combination of tone, level design, environmental themes and soundtrack. For those reasons and more, Blood Money stands out above the rest for me.

New Hitman feels really.....empty for whatever reason to me. Voice overs being blanket American accents across all locales is off putting, the scoring and xp systems being so ingrained with unlocks makes experimental play feel less rewarding. The humor and tone being so light-hearted makes everything you're doing feel cartoonish.

New Hitman does have stellar environmental design and the AI/density is also incredibly impressive. But it hasn't grabbed me or doesn't feel as compelling as past Hitman games.

Always online stuff also feels unneeded and I've had weird disconnect issues that hinder immersion and my enjoyment.
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36539 on: January 17, 2021, 02:59:06 PM »
I played through the campaign of Star Warz Battlefront II and tbh despite not being a shooter player and it seeming like some real basic bitch shooter shit anyway, I think I enjoyed it more than I did Fallen Order. Did a couple of MP games and got REKT, but spent some time in the squad mode in different eras playing against AI bots and tbh it was pretty fun.  I didn't win very many games but it was usually a time running out deal instead of just getting demolished and losing position. It does get oppressive late into the rounds when the star characters come in and can kill you in one shot and take roughly 1000 more hits to kill than the regular troops.