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chronovore

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36540 on: February 27, 2021, 07:59:36 PM »
Ultimate Game Pass SUNSET OVERDRIVE so I’m playing it, and WHO THOUGHT ADDING TOWER DEFENSE to an action traversal game is a good idea?

Enjoying just about everything else, but not that. Jesus. Marketing-driven decision, I’d bet $10.

Bebpo

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36541 on: February 27, 2021, 08:44:11 PM »
DQXI S - Got past all the intro stuff in Act 3 and to the final boss and the trials (did the first trial). Have like 20 new quests, the remaining 2 trials and everywhere to revisit I guess. Story-wise this is fine, but

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the whole erasing all the story stuff and character growth and arcs from act 2 by going back before that doesn't sit well with me.
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The xp from the enemies in the first trial kinda sucked, don't think my party gained a level and almost no one got pepped. Is there a good place to grind where metal slimes tend to appear even without electro light? Party is still ~lvl.60 and guessing for the next 2 trials and final boss I'll need some levels (as well as optional boss fights in this chapter).

Though maybe I should just do the optional boss fights in the chapter, I hear there's like 15. How do I find them? Are they just at the end of these new quests? Or do I need to go back to every town and talk to people and find something new to do?

Also demi, did you forge the supreme sword of light and was it worth it? I just got the recipe from trial 1 and it looks like it's gonna be tough to forge at 5 star difficulty and a bunch of mats I don't have.

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36542 on: February 27, 2021, 11:16:28 PM »
Ghosts N Goblins Resurrection - Cleared the first half of the game/first run before the remixed stages. Not gonna do a 2nd remixed run, will youtube it.

I feel like 70% of the level design/boss design is good and challenging but with patience can get through satisfyingly with hands sweating. Maybe even 80%, but that remaining 20% of just random bullshit spikes that you spend an hour on some tedious checkpoint is just not fun for me.

Also yeah you get "remixed" stages, but in terms of the stage count this game is really short. Like I gotta wonder how much actual budget/dev time this had because it's short af. I expected at least 1-2 more stages than were in the game, especially since the final stage is really tiny and mostly just the final boss.

For certain people this game will hit all the right notes and they'll love it, otherwise wouldn't really recommend, especially at the $30 price point. I'm surprised that most of the reviews from major sites gave it an 8/10. I think that's a bit high, I'd give it about a 6/10 personally though if I was a better gamer maybe a 7/10. I kind of have blind faith in Capcom games these days, but this doesn't feel up to their standards imo.

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36543 on: February 28, 2021, 01:15:57 AM »
DQXI S - Got past all the intro stuff in Act 3 and to the final boss and the trials (did the first trial). Have like 20 new quests, the remaining 2 trials and everywhere to revisit I guess. Story-wise this is fine, but

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the whole erasing all the story stuff and character growth and arcs from act 2 by going back before that doesn't sit well with me.
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The xp from the enemies in the first trial kinda sucked, don't think my party gained a level and almost no one got pepped. Is there a good place to grind where metal slimes tend to appear even without electro light? Party is still ~lvl.60 and guessing for the next 2 trials and final boss I'll need some levels (as well as optional boss fights in this chapter).

Though maybe I should just do the optional boss fights in the chapter, I hear there's like 15. How do I find them? Are they just at the end of these new quests? Or do I need to go back to every town and talk to people and find something new to do?

Also demi, did you forge the supreme sword of light and was it worth it? I just got the recipe from trial 1 and it looks like it's gonna be tough to forge at 5 star difficulty and a bunch of mats I don't have.

The last trial is where Metal King Slimes can spawn, and where you can get 300,000 with Electro Light

Go to Nautica, do that quest, you will get an item that tells you where you can do side-content

Yes forge the Supreme Sword of Light its the best 1H sword. You can forge anything even if you fail, you just can rework it if you want +3 down the road
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Bebpo

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36544 on: February 28, 2021, 01:19:02 AM »
DQXI S - Got past all the intro stuff in Act 3 and to the final boss and the trials (did the first trial). Have like 20 new quests, the remaining 2 trials and everywhere to revisit I guess. Story-wise this is fine, but

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the whole erasing all the story stuff and character growth and arcs from act 2 by going back before that doesn't sit well with me.
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The xp from the enemies in the first trial kinda sucked, don't think my party gained a level and almost no one got pepped. Is there a good place to grind where metal slimes tend to appear even without electro light? Party is still ~lvl.60 and guessing for the next 2 trials and final boss I'll need some levels (as well as optional boss fights in this chapter).

Though maybe I should just do the optional boss fights in the chapter, I hear there's like 15. How do I find them? Are they just at the end of these new quests? Or do I need to go back to every town and talk to people and find something new to do?

Also demi, did you forge the supreme sword of light and was it worth it? I just got the recipe from trial 1 and it looks like it's gonna be tough to forge at 5 star difficulty and a bunch of mats I don't have.

The last trial is where Metal King Slimes can spawn, and where you can get 300,000 with Electro Light

Go to Nautica, do that quest, you will get an item that tells you where you can do side-content

Yes forge the Supreme Sword of Light its the best 1H sword. You can forge anything even if you fail, you just can rework it if you want +3 down the road

Oh nice. Yeah  I was hoping for some direction on what I should be doing outside cleaning up quests and the remaining two trials. I'll start there.

Ok, I'll do the second trial so I can get to the 3rd one. I reaaaaaally don't like the turn action limit thing on the bosses. Hated that on the Angri-La challenges and it's annoying here. For the first trial I did it in 12 turns out of the 25 but I literally just didn't heal at all just had every attack attack attack and try to kill the boss in time because the turn limits stress me the fuck out. Not looking forward to the next one where I'll probably not be as overpowered and able to do that.

I thought if you fail the weapon stats are nerfed to being broken shit tho? The 4 star forging stuff at the end of act 2 was pretty tight so 5 star scares me.

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36545 on: February 28, 2021, 02:34:10 AM »
Another reason to try to get to 70, the extra Focus really helps hitting +3s on endgame gear.

Bebpo

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36546 on: February 28, 2021, 03:08:04 AM »
So I did Nautica bit, which reminded me that it's slightly annoying there is no fast travel spot anywhere near the islands on the east side. The kalamari quest also made you go to that spot. Glad I didn't die on the boss since trekking there each time would suck.

It's funny how the conch thing is just text objectives. I thought there'd be like markers on the map or something. Is the Cobblestone quest just the rebuilding?

And yeah, metal slimes pay out good in this act. I'm just keeping Hero/Sylv/Jade regularly in my party and fighting normal monsters and when Sylv/Jade pep I bench them and when both are I save and do electro light and only reload if 2 enemies get away. Last fight 1 metal slime ran, but I still got 140k xp from the other two and got to 62. Will just keep doing electro light when those two get pepped and gain a level or two each time.

The bosses in Act 3 are pretty good fights. Only did the Nautica one and the Condor bird to save Derk but both were pretty legit battles and fun. Enjoying the start of this act. Still need to run around and collect all the new quests and pastwords. Probably do that first before the main new quests.

Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36547 on: February 28, 2021, 06:49:53 AM »
Ultimate Game Pass SUNSET OVERDRIVE so I’m playing it, and WHO THOUGHT ADDING TOWER DEFENSE to an action traversal game is a good idea?

Enjoying just about everything else, but not that. Jesus. Marketing-driven decision, I’d bet $10.

Yeah, I played it on GPU a few months ago too. Felt the same about tower defense. Thankfully there's not that many times you have to do it. Such a fun game, so unique.

Bebpo

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36548 on: February 28, 2021, 04:54:55 PM »
DQXI S

While doing the monster fights in Gondolia got everyone pepped and have some pep pops now (3) and a quest I have is gonna give me another 4 for 7 total, so after Gondolia I saved and then did Hallelujah -> Pep pop -> Electro Light -> Dirge (sleep, though still missed 1) -> kill.

And holy shit



Gained 5 levels. From 63->68. And I hear electro light at 70+ spawns metal kings instead for even more xp. Will definitely be doing this each time my party naturally gets pepped while doing quests. With this kind of xp will hit like lvl.80s no problem while wrapping up act 3 stuff.

Bebpo

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36549 on: February 28, 2021, 05:54:26 PM »
Also with Act 3 I gotta say this game has a fuck load of backtracking. Even in some of the 2d flashback areas. They really got a lot of re-use out of these dungeons/areas/towns.

I've been through the Cryptic Crypt like what 4 times? 5 times now for quests/trials/story/ultimate key unlocks

demi

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36550 on: February 28, 2021, 06:00:37 PM »
Just modern game design baby
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Bebpo

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36551 on: February 28, 2021, 07:17:09 PM »
Just modern game design baby

 :'(

Videogames had a good run

Bebpo

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36552 on: February 28, 2021, 10:01:56 PM »
While there's good gameplay, material hunting & crafting, costumes and buffs in Act III, I'm kinda agreeing that story-wise the game would've been better off without it and all this side-content gameplay should've just been available at the final dungeon of Act II.

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Going back and having the drama scenes play out for these characters over again because they don't remember going through this in Act II is just...boring.

The good Act III stuff are the towns/areas where it's not a bunch of cutscenes that are 90% the same stuff as Act II.
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Also the last two sets of Wheel of Harma are a pain. Gonna come back after finishing everything up at higher levels for this. Also the pacing & style of this act is kinda burning me out, especially all the backtracking and story repetition and quests that take some time. I don't think I'm gonna bother with the 10-15 new quests for the most part until very last like Harma. I've done a couple and there were zzz. I'll just finish these sub-event stories at each area and do the rest of the retro bits and then either do those last or just do the final boss and be done.

Bebpo

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36553 on: March 01, 2021, 01:56:56 AM »
DQXI S - Mostly done with Act 3. Feel like I need another 2 sessions to mop up the rest of the content and then 1 session for the remaining retro quests and that should be just about everything outside the casino locked high-end recipe/outfits/whip since after that day spent on the roulette quest I'm done with casino grinding for completion. At least the horse racing was super easy and took like 5 mins to get all the items.

I'd actually take my dislike of the story stuff in Act 3 further to the point where if I wasn't picky about missing out on story scenes I'd probably just skip all cutscenes at this point. I'm enjoying the endgame jrpg gameplay of beefing up in levels and getting/crafting all the ultimate weapons/armor and becoming unstoppable, but goddamn the story fucking sucks in Act 3.

And like Freyj said, the existence of Act 3 in this game contributes to Act 2's final dungeon/story/boss/ending feeling anti-climatic/lackluster and I think it makes the game journey a bit smaller feeling because it's 2/3rds the game. If all this gameplay was just available at the end of Act 2 and the final dungeon stuff was meatier and tougher it'd have been perfect. Act 3 was a bad idea imo and does bring the game down a bit. Between that and all the backtrackingggggg and repetition I'd say this is a great 9/10 jrpg but could've been a 10 for sure with some changes. DQ4-6 are still my favorite DQ games, though I'd put this over 8 and obviously 9. Still like 15-20 hours into the 3DS version of 7 and haven't played 1-3.

With Act 3

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It kinda just ruins all the interesting/good storytelling they did in Act 2 of the main game. The somber DQ stories like the Shrine Miko getting eaten by her son and it saves her son, Erik losing his memories, Serena dealing with her sisters death and moving on. DQ games are usually kinda melancholic as a franchise and Act 2 hit that, Act 3 is like this RETCON HAPPY MODE FOR EVERYONE and everyone in the party is shittier because they haven't had to deal with the same drama to overcome. I feel like I don't know my party members and my real party members were all left behind.

It's not like Act 2 was such a dark "world of darkness" that they had to do a retcon. I'd understand something like that in FF15 where it's like EVERYONE IN THE WORLD IS DEAD, but this wasn't even as bad as the FF6 world of darkness and the world generally seemed to be ok after Act 2's ending.

And not only is Act 3 hanging out with a shittier version of your party members doing lame ass happy mode retcons of almost everyone event you did in Act 2, but you also have to sit through all these cutscenes that are pretty much the same storyline just slightly happier ending.

Gameplay-wise Act 3 is fine outside some of the backtracking/repetition
Story-wise Act 3 is a pretty big miss
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36554 on: March 01, 2021, 11:50:35 AM »
Playing Age of Calamity.

It's fun. I'm typically not a fan of Mosuo games, but I really did enjoy Dragon Quest Warriors 2, until the end game (it just got to a point where it required co-op or online play).
BOTW being one of my top 10 games I obviously wanted the back story. So far it's been OK. I can see they're not going for dead serious with this yet (I mean it has a cute time travelling little egg guardian). But it's ok. I like the variety and it's obvious these people know how to make this kind of game. It just hasn't blown my socks off, and I sorta don't expect it to.
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36555 on: March 01, 2021, 05:53:53 PM »
These late game areas in Xenoblade :lawd

This is some straight up Metroid Prime vibes
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Bebpo

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36556 on: March 02, 2021, 02:09:04 AM »
DQXI S

Demi, so I was looking at what it takes to 1000/1000 this game since I'm pretty much doing everything anyhow. Looks like the only achievement I'll be missing is the all outfits one.

You seriously grinded the casino to get all the swimsuits and stuff?


I dunno even know why I'm doing everything. I'm already lvl.90+ party with pretty much the best weapons/armor/outfits on everyone. The Act 3 bosses I've been cleaning up are all a joke at these levels. Pretty sure I could take the Act 3 final boss no problem now. But it's just so easy to knock out all quests, forge all the endgame stuff (a bit of a grind for mats, but an easy stealing grind for serpent souls and stuff), I just keep doing everything. Definitely feels like a time waster. Just want to get all this done and beat the last boss and move on. There's no challenge left or real story or anything at this point. Just an OCD completion grind.

Almost done. ~75 hours save. Probably need another 5 hours + whatever the last few retro bits take.

demi

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36557 on: March 02, 2021, 02:30:49 AM »
To get all suits you need to beat the super ultimate boss, which has Jade's last (and absolutely broken) armor/suit
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« Reply #36558 on: March 02, 2021, 03:21:35 AM »
To get all suits you need to beat the super ultimate boss, which has Jade's last (and absolutely broken) armor/suit

Ah, I didn't know there was a super boss beyond the Act 3 boss. Someone the main last boss of Act 3 is the games super ultimate boss. Looking it up I see there's two more for post-post-game. Are they tough?

I still feel like grinding the casino for the couple of outfits there would be the most time consuming part of going for 1000/1000. I'm also missing the puff-puff achievement but I could just faq that and do it pretty quick.




Wheel of Harma final trial took me like 30 mins of retries and was a pain in the fucking ass at my lvl.90 party. Got lucky, did Serena + Veronica mighty mighty burst on the last part and ONE OF THE ENEMIES SURVIVED and I had no MP so Serena just equipped a spear and did like 120 damage normal attack and it killed it.

Then I had to try to make vicious red slimes appear because I was out of goobricant and needed three for the Legate blade. Took way too long. But got them eventually.



That's the way to forge stuff.



Ok, now done with everything other than the retro quests now and grinding out a few more serpent souls for Rab & Sylvando's last glam outfits and stealing 10 medals from slots to finish the metal board (at 100 now) and forge the final metal stuff. Might get it all done and the final boss tomorrow.


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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36559 on: March 02, 2021, 06:58:26 AM »
Picked up Windbound for cheap.

Cool little indie survival/exploration game. Plays well, but damn it could do with some better explanation sometimes.
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demi

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36560 on: March 02, 2021, 11:37:50 AM »
Ah, I didn't know there was a super boss beyond the Act 3 boss. Someone the main last boss of Act 3 is the games super ultimate boss. Looking it up I see there's two more for post-post-game. Are they tough?

Honestly yes, the last few bosses are pretty tough. You can cheese many of them with Magic Burst + Elfin Elixirs + Pep Pops though.

Craft 8 Catholicon Ring +3s (100% prevent status)

Start battle all pepped -> Yggdragon's Blessing

Veronica -> Magic Burst

Anyone -> Elfin Elixir (available at Octagonia casino for 10000 tokens)

Anyone -> Pep Pop (available in Cobblestone for 200000 gold -> steal/drop Devilry Drinkers from Hula Hoopers at Manglegrove Whale Way Station for 30,000 a piece)

Anyone -> Gigaburst

Veronica (at any point) -> Magic Burst

Anyone -> Pep Pop (Yggdragon's Blessing)

repeat...

You can throw in Erik (Oomphle) -> Divide -> Double Down for great damage too
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36561 on: March 02, 2021, 09:57:41 PM »
I was thinking Crystalotl would stand out, that was the hardest fight in the entire game for me. And memorable since I coasted through everything until then, and it wiped me out easily. But I think I got there around level 50.



I'm up to chapter 6 of Ys 8 right now. Great game, but you can definitely feel the tension between the old and new design.

The single-character sections are way more intense because you can actually be killed. But at the same time, I like all the characters. Not sure how to combine those feelings.

The biggest issue seems to be that it is nearly impossible to die with a party since you can infinitely revive if you want to. The side effect of that is you can't die even if you want to! I wanted to play the game using my own rules, but it doesn't work because I can't instantly restart a boss fight if one character dies. I could put the controller down and still have to wait a long time for the whole party to die and let me restart.
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Bebpo

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36562 on: March 02, 2021, 10:15:11 PM »
DQXI S - Just finished the retro quests. Nothing left to do in the game besides 3 super-bosses, 2 of which I can't access until I finish Act 3 anyhow.

Everyone is lvl.99 except goddamn Rab at lvl 94, Serena at 95, Jade/Sylvando at 97. It's kinda nuts how the leveling isn't curved? Like Rab fell a few levels behind around lvl.40s by wiping on like 2-3 bosses and he just...never caught up and somehow got even more behind!

I've got 3 pep pops, 8 pep pips, 2 elfen elixers. Might just pop those real quick and hit some electric light to finish maxing everyone at 99.

Game time is ~77 hours and I finished Act 2 around 65, so Act 3 was pretty short even doing everything. I hear the true ending is good, so looking forward to that. Might make up for most of Act 3 being mehhhhhh


Gonna eat dinner and then maybe give Overweening Pride boss fight one or two attempts and then will just finish the game and give the Hall of Rememberance boss rush one or two attempts and Timewyrm one or two attempts and call it good. I've never been into 100%-ing jrpgs completely, so if I can't clear these 3 super bosses, will just move on rather than grind out peps/elfens.

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36563 on: March 02, 2021, 11:46:14 PM »
Ok, Overweening Pride down on first run. At first I thought I'm really not strategically setup for DQ superboss stuff as he killed most of my initial 4 including Hero, Sylvando & Erik. But I swapped them all out and left them dead and man, #8's Forbearance every turn + Serena casting "no instant kills at over 50% HP" on everyone  really saved my ass and kept everyone alive and slowly whittling the boss HP down with Kabloomes and Jade doing Pink Tornados.

Time to check out these new recipes and then on to the final boss.

Bebpo

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36564 on: March 03, 2021, 12:36:26 AM »
Demi, since you just finished it can you answer these plot questions if you know them. I thought there'd be more story in Act 3. Feels like if you were playing the PS4/PC launch versions without the 2d retro area you'd be like wtf are these Tockle things in the intro FMV.

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1. Why you kill Mordgedon in Act 3 he goes "you're not the only one that can go back in time mwahaha" ...this has like no further implication unless this is related to Timewyrm? Which wasn't even in the PS4/PC versions, so this line makes no sense.

2. Uhmmmm the game never explains the Tockle darkspawn that follows you around through time to free the Dark One and bring Eldwin Lantern down. Like it's a piece of the dark one as a Tockle but how did The Dark One become a Tockle and travel through time and bitchslap Mordgedon wtf. This was really underexplained.
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True ending was better than Act 2 ending, yeah. Still not much more than a few hours true ending beyond where Act 2's story ends.

demi

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36565 on: March 03, 2021, 01:02:09 AM »
Mordegon is talking about Calasmos, who I think hitched a ride with the Luminary without his knowing.

Calasmos swatted at Mordegon because he knew what happened in Act 2. No sword = no Lord of Shadow = no destroyed Lantern

As for why he is a tockle, I imagine it's something to do with when he was separated/imprisoned by Serenica & Co. but they don't really dive into it.

Calasmos is in the very beginning cutscene (the dark tockle that is wandering aimlessly)

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That said they really don't dive too much into Calasmos, he's kind of the surprise "true villain" in typical DQ fashion


If you think that's confusing, the ending goes even further and pulls some weird Skyward Sword shit
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36566 on: March 03, 2021, 01:40:46 AM »
Holy shit I beat End of Time on my first run along with all the Hall of Rememberance fights on the first run.

The double 2 boss fight on Floor 3 almost destroyed me so many times. Had tons of parts where everyone was under 2 different status effects and couldn't do anything. No.8 did a Kerplunk at some point and brought everyone back and barely squeezed by.

Also yeah, Veronica's Magic Burst is insane. That really helped on these fights doing 2300 damage across the board at the start to make lower HP fights.

Everything done except Timewyrm which I will try now and totally die. Do I automatically have Yggdragon's Blessing? I have like 3 pep pops and 1 elfin elixer. Probably not enough to cheese the whole thing.

Also I've literally just been spamming snap, crackle pop on everyone on these fights while Sylv heals with hustle dance and No. 8 uses forbearance. Super defensive and slow but it's been working barely.

Bebpo

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36567 on: March 03, 2021, 02:00:45 AM »
Forgot to rest before going to fight Timewyrm. Had almost no MP on anyone, no one was pepped. Still lasted about 15 mins into his 2nd form haha. The first 2 phases don't seem bad, but it sounds like the 3rd combined phase is going to be horrible.

*edit* Yeah, got to the 3rd phase but without any pep pops left didn't stand a chance. Just like 6 attacks in a row or something wipes my team. I think I'm good at this point.
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36568 on: March 03, 2021, 03:17:51 AM »
Probably ending my obsession with RDR2/Online soon. Just too many times where it hangs on infinite load between modes or even between Moonshine Shack and the rest of Free Roam.

Nearly done with Sunset Overdrive I think. It’s fun and all, but the auto-traversal stuff gets fiddly and annoying when close quarters maneuvering is needed, sometimes during missions. Also: the "collect these items" missions have poor visibility of the needed items (possibly intentional) and bad messaging about when the item is already there, versus needing to be dropped by a final enemy (not intentional).

Risk of Rain 2 is $10 on sale in the US PS Store, so I grabbed that.
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36569 on: March 03, 2021, 09:02:19 AM »
I found a secondhand Wii U for 30 dollars so I am playing Bayonetta 2 (which I got for 7 dollars). This game is fuckin awesome. Also the Wii U fuckin sucks, Nintendo clearly had no idea what it was doing with this.

Luckily I have a bunch of Wii shit from a huge Wii Binge from 2 years ago (I skipped that console ENTIRELY and caught up on it with 100-yen games) so I’m playing it through the old Wii Pro Controller.

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36570 on: March 03, 2021, 09:09:02 AM »
I found a secondhand Wii U for 30 dollars so I am playing Bayonetta 2 (which I got for 7 dollars). This game is fuckin awesome. Also the Wii U fuckin sucks, Nintendo clearly had no idea what it was doing with this.

Luckily I have a bunch of Wii shit from a huge Wii Binge from 2 years ago (I skipped that console ENTIRELY and caught up on it with 100-yen games) so I’m playing it through the old Wii Pro Controller.

Have you played Sin and Punishment 2 for Wii? It's a must, probably the smoothest use of pointer controls I've seen with the console, and a barrage of nonstop action and great boss fights. Probably my favorite game (along with original Xenoblade) on the system.
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tiesto

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36571 on: March 03, 2021, 09:18:32 AM »
I beat Ys IX, and then did a quick run through Boss Rush on easy mode to pick up some trophies. Loved the game, though the city is a bit of a bland setting you really become attached to the crew of the Dandelion bar by the end of it. Storytelling is a bit better than the rest of the series, and it's a bit more mature than your typical Ys/Trails story... lots of grey areas and even the villain's motivation is pretty neat.

Up to post game in Mario 3D world. I'll probably start Moon: RPG Remix Adventure this weekend.
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36572 on: March 03, 2021, 09:47:52 AM »
I found a secondhand Wii U for 30 dollars so I am playing Bayonetta 2 (which I got for 7 dollars). This game is fuckin awesome. Also the Wii U fuckin sucks, Nintendo clearly had no idea what it was doing with this.

Luckily I have a bunch of Wii shit from a huge Wii Binge from 2 years ago (I skipped that console ENTIRELY and caught up on it with 100-yen games) so I’m playing it through the old Wii Pro Controller.
Yeah it's a weird machine sort of like a Switch beta test. Iwata wanted to drop the GamePad and cancel it actually.

Has some great games like The Wind Waker remaster, Pikmin 3, DKC Tropical Freeze, Xenoblade X, Mario Kart 8 etc. . Third party wise not that exciting   :doge

At this point Nintendo has ported about 80% of the library to Switch
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« Reply #36573 on: March 03, 2021, 12:12:10 PM »
I found a secondhand Wii U for 30 dollars so I am playing Bayonetta 2 (which I got for 7 dollars). This game is fuckin awesome. Also the Wii U fuckin sucks, Nintendo clearly had no idea what it was doing with this.

Luckily I have a bunch of Wii shit from a huge Wii Binge from 2 years ago (I skipped that console ENTIRELY and caught up on it with 100-yen games) so I’m playing it through the old Wii Pro Controller.

30 dollars holy shit thats like a steal
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36574 on: March 03, 2021, 12:22:51 PM »
Wii U's are still selling for like $200 on ebay.
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« Reply #36575 on: March 03, 2021, 12:52:42 PM »
As I recall the Wii U also wasn't very durable.
A lot of them broke down after 3 - 5 years and in the EU and US Nintendo didn't sell GamePads seperately.
Plus GamePads were region locked I believe.

Cheap Ebay listings (30 - 50) are usually just for the console without anything else included.
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« Reply #36576 on: March 03, 2021, 06:46:24 PM »
The first hour (plus?) of the Outriders demo is an interesting choice, basically a walking simulator with tons of cutscenes. The tutorial part even suggests it's a cover shooter when it's not. I hit Esc and Space to skip so many cutscenes and conversations that I had to take a break when I finally got to the part with missions and quests.

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« Reply #36577 on: March 03, 2021, 07:21:46 PM »
60 hours into Xenoblade now, lvl 67.

Mopping up the capital of the Mechonis. These are some amazing environments. Monolith makes the best worlds.
Story wise it's one revelation after the other this late in the game. It's mix of a lot of things but it works really well.  :thinking

I'm surprised how much effort has been put in this unique late game content that between the original and this remake about 5%(?) of the players will ever experience.
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« Reply #36578 on: March 03, 2021, 07:29:55 PM »
I beat Ys IX, and then did a quick run through Boss Rush on easy mode to pick up some trophies. Loved the game, though the city is a bit of a bland setting you really become attached to the crew of the Dandelion bar by the end of it. Storytelling is a bit better than the rest of the series, and it's a bit more mature than your typical Ys/Trails story... lots of grey areas and even the villain's motivation is pretty neat.

Up to post game in Mario 3D world. I'll probably start Moon: RPG Remix Adventure this weekend.

Glad you liked Ys IX! Yeah, the story was good and the cast was good. I'd never been interested or cared about the worldview/world building/setting in Ys before, but now I'm actually like interested in future Ys stories exploring some of the other locations like the Rome or whatever the Roman Empire's capital city is.

I hear the city/game runs really smooth on PS5 in PS4 BC mode. Kinda tempted to boot it up and try. Should mean future Ys games should run really well on PS5 hardware.

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« Reply #36579 on: March 03, 2021, 07:30:43 PM »
I found a secondhand Wii U for 30 dollars so I am playing Bayonetta 2 (which I got for 7 dollars). This game is fuckin awesome. Also the Wii U fuckin sucks, Nintendo clearly had no idea what it was doing with this.

Luckily I have a bunch of Wii shit from a huge Wii Binge from 2 years ago (I skipped that console ENTIRELY and caught up on it with 100-yen games) so I’m playing it through the old Wii Pro Controller.

Wii U's main problem is the handheld side is just way too fucking huge.

I still have a boatload of Wii U backlog but I don't want to hook it up to a tv and it's too fugly for portable so meh.

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« Reply #36580 on: March 03, 2021, 07:40:11 PM »
DQVII 3DS - So in the mood for DQ and booted this up again and I have no idea what is going on or where I am, but looking at a guide I'm a bit after I got the wolf kid. My save is ~8 hours.

The most surprising thing is how at lvl.12, 8 hours in, I have zero combat abilities or spells. Like I have a basic heal spell & def up spell and otherwise just normal attack. My party members also have like 1 spell or skill and that's it. DQVII is definitely a slow build up game.

Unfortunately I think if I really ever want to play through this I'd need to just restart at this point. 8 hours isn't a ton and I just don't remember anything besides that you do an island in the past from the map room -> island appears in the present and you get a new map piece -> repeat. Which might be enough to get by but I don't remember who my party members are so yeah...

DQXI S - When I rebought this on the Switch import version, I paid the extra $$ for the deluxe version that came with audio dramas. But the audio dramas had huge spoiler warnings so I didn't touch them. Now that I'm done with DQXI, I started listening to them last night. There's ten 30 min episodes for ~5 hours total.

I think one of the games strengths and its weakness was its cast, who are good but also a bit underdeveloped (like the Hendrick/Jasper dynamic doesn't impact as well as it's supposed to imo), so 5 hours of character episodes giving more development to these characters might help. The first ep is a flashback to Hendrick/Jasper meeting as kids.

I looked to see if these were on youtube with at least google auto-translation but I guess since they were paid DLC SE takes them down. It kinda sucks that localization companies have never bothered putting in the effort for bringing over audio dramas with translations. I remember back in the PS2 days there were some good ones for like Xenosaga ep1 and Persona 3 and Tales of games. If they're canon it's nice getting extra development for some of these casts.


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« Reply #36581 on: March 03, 2021, 11:11:33 PM »
Outriders is kinda meh, I guess I was expecting it to be a little wilder being People Can Fly. It's not bad or anything, maybe I need to level up more though I'm already level 4 and the demo maxes out at 7. Weapons aren't all that exciting really so far. Haven't played it co-op with anybody. Might complete the main quest then do another character for one of the other types for that. I did pick a sorta safe class in that you leech damage rather than teleport or set people on fire or whatever. Probably won't try all four classes all the way through all the demo quests.

Been skipping everything so no idea if the lore/story/dialogue is any good, was mainly wanting to get to the gameplay to see if I want to actually play it for however many hours. Don't think I'll drop $60 on it when there's stuff I haven't played a ton of like Destiny or The Division that's similar and/or better. But somebody looking for something newish in that might want to check out the demo at least. There's people on ResetERA.com who have put tens of hours into it since it carries over into the full game, rerunning the quests trying to get drops to use in the rest of the game. And I'm definitely not that type, especially as more of a content tourist these days.

It's not a GaaS or thing with tons of DLC plans, it's supposed to be a full complete game at release and that's it. 30+ hours, then endgame content. Some people in the thread were saying Remnant might be a better version of it. Thought I had that free from somewhere, maybe EGS, might check that out if I have it.

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« Reply #36582 on: March 04, 2021, 12:02:27 AM »
The demo is awful and you barely get your dick wet with customization. It only just starts to get fun at the end when you're farming the captain for better loots.

I think it'll be a fun play. Will it last? Haha of course not.
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« Reply #36583 on: March 04, 2021, 12:50:58 AM »
DQVII 3ds - Figured out where I am and the story so far, got back in the hang of the gameplay and to the next area which is the town being attacked by robots. I might play this as my next rpg and finally get through 7. The music and town story stuff/npc dialogue is pretty nice. Music is better than DQXI.

Also I guess if I actually play through 7, since I'll have played all the single player DQs from 4-11 at that point, might as well do 1-3 since they're all pretty short.

Though I need to get back to AC Valhalla and finish that too.
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36584 on: March 04, 2021, 11:30:08 AM »
I loved DQ 7 for a while. It took me three tries before it "clicked" but it was my favorite for a while (well after III and IV).
But it really hasn't aged well, even the DS remake. The pace is just ridiculously slow. I remember in the original, 3 hours before your first fight.
If you have the time to really lose yourself in that world it's great but most people don't. The DS remake takes a lot of that out but still it's a very plodding game, by design.
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« Reply #36585 on: March 05, 2021, 09:48:32 PM »
Finished Ys 8. What the fuck? Was not expecting that ending. Overall, the game is an enjoyable mess of contradictions both in terms of gameplay and story.

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A third of the game is an intimate, small scale story about character development of a group of random people pulling together to survive a dangerous island, and then all of that is erased when we swerve into Lovecraftian cosmic horror and the entire PLANET is suddenly destroyed and none of that growth happened any more. The other third of the game, in Dana's time, is also contradicted, since everything with the first maiden is pointless when Dana already knows way more about what is happening than she does. Three wildly different stories in the same game that don't fit together, and unfortunately the story that dominates the ending is the most unsatisfying and least developed one.

With the gameplay, the Dana sections are awesome. She has 3 forms that all feel different to play, and (not coincidentally) her bosses are better designed. They could have easily designed a whole game around her. But with the party, even though you have 6 characters, any one of them has to be able to solo 99% of the game. So the 6 characters have less true variety than the 1 character, and their bosses are mostly more simplistic.

The party system as it exists here doesn't allow the Ys trademark of intense fights that can be instantly retried on failure. You can easily tank any fight in the game if you want, and you can't instant restart because you can't die. Levels are no longer meaningful because you randomly are given characters that could be 6 or more levels above you and everyone levels at different rates. Since levels aren't meaningful, they added enemy level scaling and grinding for upgrades/skills to replace that functionality. Many of the systems now feel vestigious or tacked on.

That said, having all the characters is fun. I played as Laxia for much of the game since I found her moveset most enjoyable. Long range thrusts for building skill points, efficient dagger throw damage (savage mask + jade pendant is so good), the heavy hitter that freezes the opponent. She's good but also does require aiming due to lack of spread attacks.

The regular enemies are also better than usual. Some of high level dino areas are honestly better than many bosses. Best regular enemies I've seen in a Ys game.
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« Reply #36586 on: March 06, 2021, 02:07:40 PM »
Finished up the past story I got to in DQVII with the town beset by killer robots. It was good! Also more of the depressing DQ writing that was missing a bit in DQXI.

Like you get to this small town that's fighting off killer robots and talk to the NPCs, then you go to the castle and sign up as a new recruit and meet the commander and troops worrying about the killer robot siege. Then word gets to the castle that the town is lost and you go back and all the NPCs including the church sister and a little kid playing are now replaced with fucking coffins.

Then the commanders brother who had a tragic story of loss and became obsessed with building robots and hiding away from real people ends up being convinced to build a counter-robot named after his lost love and you go to the enemy hideout and take out the demon controlling all the robots. Everyone in the town is happy now but still depressed about everyone who died. They start attacking the counter-robot because they hate all robots who killed everyone. So the brother guy runs away back to his little shed with his robots giving up on humanity again.

Jump to the future and you go to the shack and there's the corpse of the brother on the bed and his robot, that's all beat up and falling apart, keeps talking to the bones asking why he isn't responding and that the robot needs to be fixed.

Good depressing/melancholic stuff, pretty much how I think of DQ stories. Just another reason why DQXI Act 3 is lame.

Also hard endurance battles. No MP refresh on leveling up -> multi-stage boss fights already on top of high encounter rate dungeons before them and no MP refresh items at this point = decent challenge. The boss in the robot hideout was probably tougher than anything outside the post-game bosses in DQXI. Looking forward to reaching the job change temple at some point tho, need some more skills/flexibility as the boss fights are ramping up.

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36587 on: March 06, 2021, 05:02:05 PM »
The robot trying to feed his long-dead master is one of the most touching parts in the DQ series for me..

Anyways, I tried to play Moon: RPG Remix Adventure and honestly, couldn't make it very far. A lot of 'quirky' games don't really do much for me, and I am not a fan of 'right place right time' type puzzle solving, i.e. where you have to memorize NPC schedules like Majora's Mask. I want to give it more of a chance but I just keel over and die before I can figure anything out, and it's more of an adventure game not really an RPG. Not sure if I'll continue with this... I also started Seiken 3 on the Collection of Mana. It's nice playing this in English (last time I played was back when I imported it in 1996).
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« Reply #36588 on: March 06, 2021, 06:06:09 PM »
Still playing Xenoblade, 60 hours, lvl 72

about 20 hours ago I thought I was nearing the end

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« Reply #36589 on: March 06, 2021, 07:10:49 PM »
Maquette

Gave this a try today and played about 1-2 hours. It's Annapura hipster indie shit to the max, but I also have a soft spot for lovey-love relationship stuff so I'm enjoying it. There's some good music and the art aesthetic is nice too.

That being said, I sorta feel these kind of "games" work as a 1-2 hour thing. I had to look up a walkthrough a few times because I am dumb at puzzles and saw after 1-2 hours of playing I'm like 1/3rd through, so probably ~5 hour game, which might be too long for this kind of thing, idk. I'll see it.

I like it enough that I'll definitely stick with it and finish it in the next few days. Seems good for a free PS+ title.

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« Reply #36590 on: March 06, 2021, 07:15:30 PM »
Also was looking up who the VA for the guy is and I saw it's Bryce Howard's husband, so the VA couple is a real-life married couple. That's kind of cute.

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« Reply #36591 on: March 06, 2021, 11:06:09 PM »
I was thinking that it's kind of a shame that no one makes good looking jrpgs anymore except Square Enix.

Like playing DQXI S on PC which is the downgraded S version, it's still like the best looking jrpg in existence and it's gonna be 4 years old. Only competition is FF7 remake and Kingdom Hearts 3, both also SE.

Used to be that Namco Bandai could keep up, but Tales went down the shitter, Mistwalker died outside mobile, etc...

So basically with jrpgs it's like every 2 years we'll get a new FF or DQ or KH that'll look good and that's about it for the rest of our lives. Well, I guess there's always F2P Gatcha stuff from China like Genshin Impact and Black Desert Online from Korea. With how well those do, I wouldn't be surprised if the high-end graphics jrpg future is dominated by gatcha/mmo rpgs from Korea/China from this point on.

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« Reply #36592 on: March 07, 2021, 01:09:57 AM »
Persona, Tales of Arise, NinoKuni2, Yakuza7...

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« Reply #36593 on: March 07, 2021, 01:20:25 AM »
Tales of Berseria was amazing but go off king
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« Reply #36594 on: March 07, 2021, 01:28:44 AM »
Yakuza 7 has been  :delicious  so far, and you’ve got SMTV coming this year*.

If you count KH as a JRPG, then something like P5 Strikers is definitely one too, and I’m having a good time with it.

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« Reply #36595 on: March 07, 2021, 01:36:20 AM »
Forgot about Persona yeah. Every 5 years we get a good gfx game from Atlus.

Yakuza is great, but dunno if it scratches that same travel the world jrpg itch. Arise looks pretty shit, good luck with that. They finally kick out the Tales producer Baba after a million games and then the next one is a development mess that takes years.

Pretty sure Level 5 ain't making any more high production jrpgs since they're set to go out of business soon at this rate.

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« Reply #36596 on: March 07, 2021, 06:12:45 AM »
I dunno if you played smt iv but that game blew me away from what ive played so far
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36597 on: March 07, 2021, 11:06:15 AM »
I was thinking that it's kind of a shame that no one makes good looking jrpgs anymore except Square Enix.

Like playing DQXI S on PC which is the downgraded S version, it's still like the best looking jrpg in existence and it's gonna be 4 years old. Only competition is FF7 remake and Kingdom Hearts 3, both also SE.

Used to be that Namco Bandai could keep up, but Tales went down the shitter, Mistwalker died outside mobile, etc...

So basically with jrpgs it's like every 2 years we'll get a new FF or DQ or KH that'll look good and that's about it for the rest of our lives. Well, I guess there's always F2P Gatcha stuff from China like Genshin Impact and Black Desert Online from Korea. With how well those do, I wouldn't be surprised if the high-end graphics jrpg future is dominated by gatcha/mmo rpgs from Korea/China from this point on.

Monolith? Capcom if you count MH as RPG?

Even Gust and Falcom have been making some strides in the graphics department, although they're no where near the level of SE, Ryza and Kuro no Kiseki are big steps up from their predecessors in terms of gfx.
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« Reply #36598 on: March 07, 2021, 11:29:22 AM »
At this point, character designs, voice acting, and the writing/localization are the most important elements regarding JRPGs on a production level. We've come a long way in those areas, which matters a lot more than raw visual prowess imo.

For example, FFXV has great visuals, but so much about it falls short compared to more modestly budgeted JRPGs.
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« Reply #36599 on: March 07, 2021, 06:47:20 PM »
Started playing Inside. I thought Limbo was just ok and totally overrated so I ignored this until now.

Liking it, animation is amazing.