Author Topic: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread (Read 194699 times)

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #660 on:** February 05, 2011, 11:25:33 PM »

Jones

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #661 on:** February 05, 2011, 11:29:06 PM »

Wow they just gave Jones the title shot at Rua

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #662 on:** February 05, 2011, 11:49:39 PM »

Yeah Forrest is just too big for Rich. Rich shouldn't be fighting at 205. But because Silva beat him twice that's where he is stuck.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #663 on:** February 06, 2011, 12:22:05 AM »

Destruction silva

Fuck that was a nasty kick.

E-DuB · « **Reply #664 on:** February 06, 2011, 12:39:20 AM »

I'm in awe of what just happened...Silva is a damned monster.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #665 on:** February 06, 2011, 12:41:34 AM »

I know this sounds stupid but my first instinct was that the kick was somehow illegal. Like it was so brutal and so obvious that I thought somehow this wasn't right. Like my mind imagined that Belfort was on the ground and it was an illegal kick or something. Not even kidding.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #666 on:** February 06, 2011, 12:48:04 AM »

Also if they are going to do the GSP Silva superfight now is the time to do it. Neither guy could be higher right now in the public's mind. If they get the UFC hype machine behind it, this could be fucking huge.

I mean really, who wants to see GSP dust Jake Jake Shields which is what it would be. I'm less interested in that fight than I was to see GSP dust Kosh.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #667 on:** February 06, 2011, 01:12:30 AM »

Also

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Dana White was asked tonight in the UFC 126 post-fight press conference if Anderson Silva’s next opponent would be Georges St. Pierre. White answered, “If Georges wins his fight, that’ll probably be the fight we do”.

I totally think this is the right move but poor Yushin Okami gets screwed again.

Boogie · « **Reply #668 on:** February 06, 2011, 01:33:40 AM »

Quote from: Stoney Mason on February 06, 2011, 12:48:04 AM

I mean really, who wants to see GSP dust Jake Jake Shields which is what it would be. I'm less interested in that fight than I was to see GSP dust Kosh.

Who wants to see GSP dust Shields? I DO! 'course, I'm selfish, 'cause I'll be seeing it live.

But, really, GSP-Shields makes sense, because Shields is the last and final WW contender before GSP has well and truly cleaned out the division for the time being. And because there is a segment of the fanbase that calls GSP boring, and so a Fitch-esque drubbing of Shields would help hype GSP up a bit more.

And because Toronto is going to be a massive live event which could itself help the momentum for a GSP-Silva fight.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #669 on:** February 06, 2011, 01:40:44 AM »

Quote from: Boogie on February 06, 2011, 01:33:40 AM

Quote from: Stoney Mason on February 06, 2011, 12:48:04 AM
I mean really, who wants to see GSP dust Jake Jake Shields which is what it would be. I'm less interested in that fight than I was to see GSP dust Kosh.

Who wants to see GSP dust Shields? I DO! 'course, I'm selfish, 'cause I'll be seeing it live.

But, really, GSP-Shields makes sense, because Shields is the last and final WW contender before GSP has well and truly cleaned out the division for the time being. And because there is a segment of the fanbase that calls GSP boring, and so a Fitch-esque drubbing of Shields would help hype GSP up a bit more.

Oh I agree and technically Silva still has unfinished business with Sonnen and Okami. It's just one of those things where I give Shields no hope at all which colors my opinion. At least Hardy could punch. At least Kosh is like a much much much lesser version of GSP. I guess Shields has his BJJ but its such a foregone conclusion he's not going to be able to get into position to utilize it that I just don't care about the fight. And he just looked like shit in his first fight in the UFC. I don't even think he deserves a title shot. But I get why they are doing it.

In other news

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #670 on:** February 06, 2011, 02:15:54 AM »

You're right, Stoney, Silva-GSP needs to happen now. God, that shit was fucking disgusting. Joe Rogan couldn't stop saying I'VE NEVER SEEN A KNOCKOUT WITH A FRONT KICK TO THE FACE, he was so shocked. Jones-Shogun is cool, too. Jones was just a beast. Reminded me a bit of Silva, only with wrestling ability.

Boogie · « **Reply #671 on:** February 06, 2011, 02:18:25 AM »

I foresee an August/Sept date if GSP beats Shields.

Question is, what should the venue be?

Madison Square Garden, if the UFC can get MMA legalized in NY in time?

Cowboy Stadium?

return to Toronto for the Skydome?

Vegas?

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #672 on:** February 06, 2011, 02:21:27 AM »

I would buy a ticket if it were at MSG. God, that'd be fucking incredible.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #673 on:** February 06, 2011, 02:35:17 AM »

SILVA

what an amazing man, GSP is doomed

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #674 on:** February 06, 2011, 02:39:06 AM »

change the title to SILVA VS GSP PLEASE

Boogie · « **Reply #675 on:** February 06, 2011, 02:41:07 AM »

Quote from: CajoleJuice on February 06, 2011, 02:39:06 AM

change the title to SILVA VS GSP PLEASE

DO EEET!

Quote from: pilonv1 on February 06, 2011, 02:35:17 AM

SILVA

what an amazing man, GSP is doomed

Yes, because Silva KO'ing a headcase who hadn't fought in 15 months, had NEVER fought in the UFC at 185lbs, and had a history of wilting under pressure, and has nothing in common style-wise with GSP, means that GSP has no chance against SIlva. huh

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #676 on:** February 06, 2011, 02:42:44 AM »

Oh god, Hollywood made this thread, title ain't gonna change

pilonv1 · « **Reply #677 on:** February 06, 2011, 04:05:10 AM »

Quote from: Boogie on February 06, 2011, 02:41:07 AM

Yes, because Silva KO'ing a headcase who hadn't fought in 15 months, had NEVER fought in the UFC at 185lbs, and had a history of wilting under pressure, and has nothing in common style-wise with GSP, means that GSP has no chance against SIlva. huh

Silva is also a much larger guy than anyone GSP has fought. I just want anyone involved with Greg Jackson to lose.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #678 on:** February 06, 2011, 02:04:59 PM »

What does Silva do after a GSP fight if he wins? Go up to LHW and get an immediate title shot?

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #679 on:** February 06, 2011, 03:43:13 PM »

I think it would be a fascinating fight. The conventional wisdom is that Silva's size will create problems for GSP but then GSP is such an amazing wrestler which is the weakness of Silva.

OptimoPeach · « **Reply #680 on:** February 06, 2011, 05:46:08 PM »

That was one of the most surreal, bizarre moments I can recall in MMA, right up there with the Newton/Hughes double KO

chronovore · « **Reply #681 on:** February 06, 2011, 08:45:40 PM »

Quote from: Stoney Mason on February 06, 2011, 12:22:05 AM

Destruction silva

Fuck that was a nasty kick.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/blog/cagewriter/post/Steven-Seagal-helped-Anderson-Silva-with-KO-fron?urn=mma-317407

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #682 on:** February 06, 2011, 09:04:47 PM »

Quote from: chronovore on February 06, 2011, 08:45:40 PM

Quote from: Stoney Mason on February 06, 2011, 12:22:05 AM
Destruction silva

Fuck that was a nasty kick.
http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/blog/cagewriter/post/Steven-Seagal-helped-Anderson-Silva-with-KO-fron?urn=mma-317407

[youtube=560,345][/youtube]

E-DuB · « **Reply #683 on:** February 06, 2011, 09:18:15 PM »

Quote from: Boogie on February 06, 2011, 02:18:25 AM

I foresee an August/Sept date if GSP beats Shields.

Question is, what should the venue be?

Madison Square Garden, if the UFC can get MMA legalized in NY in time?

Cowboy Stadium?

return to Toronto for the Skydome?

Vegas?

Cowboy's Stadium. If they can do a boxing match there, they can do GSP/Silva there no problem

chronovore · « **Reply #684 on:** February 07, 2011, 12:08:21 AM »

Quote from: Stoney Mason on February 06, 2011, 09:04:47 PM

Quote from: chronovore on February 06, 2011, 08:45:40 PM
Quote from: Stoney Mason on February 06, 2011, 12:22:05 AM
Destruction silva

Fuck that was a nasty kick.
http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/blog/cagewriter/post/Steven-Seagal-helped-Anderson-Silva-with-KO-fron?urn=mma-317407

[youtube=560,345][/youtube]

I shuttled through the whole video but didn't see that kick. At any point, does that fat bastard do ANYTHING that looks like Silva's face-level front snap-kick? I saw him kicking under knee level. I don't think Belfort's face was at knee-level until after the kick.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #685 on:** February 07, 2011, 12:15:42 AM »

No there's nothing there about the kick. I just posted it because I thought it was funny to see Seagal in that environment. As far as the kick who knows. Silva could just be trolling people.

chronovore · « **Reply #686 on:** February 07, 2011, 12:21:03 AM »

I suspect Silva is a fan of his movies, and is able to glean movement skills from him. Sure. And Seagal does have some slick combat aikido moves, no doubt. As out of shape as he is, I wouldn't want to be forced to face him unarmed.

With a donut in each hand, I'm pretty sure I could take him though.

Boogie · « **Reply #687 on:** February 09, 2011, 06:38:00 PM »

Boogie · « **Reply #688 on:** February 10, 2011, 10:08:45 PM »

Entire 42,000 tickets for UFC: Toronto sold out on first day of the pre-sale.

http://www.tsn.ca/mma/story/?id=353297

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Toronto's appetite for the UFC is proving to be near insatiable.

The mixed martial arts juggernaut enjoyed a record day at the box office Thursday, selling more than 42,000 tickets -- its entire original ticket block -- for UFC 129 on April 30 at the Rogers Centre.

"I LOVE CANADA!" UFC president Dana White told The Canadian Press in a text message.

The previous UFC attendance record was UFC 124 in Montreal, which drew 23,152 to the Bell Centre in December. White often refers to Canada as the mecca of mixed martial arts.

"To say the response was overwhelming would be an understatement," said Tom Wright, the UFC's director of Canadian operations.

"In less than an hour we were pretty well down to some singles (tickets)."

It took the UFC even less time -- just seven or eight minutes after tickets went on sale to members of the UFC Fight Club at 10 a.m. ET -- to decide it needed to make several thousand more tickets available so there would be some left when the general public gets a chance to buy them Saturday.

On Friday, another pre-sale is set for those who subscribe to the UFC newsletter.

Wright would not detail the possible total number of seats on sale but said 50,000 would be "pushing it."

"I'd love to see a first digit (of) five but time will tell."

...I did not get tickets. :'(

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #689 on:** February 12, 2011, 09:59:23 AM »

Not an especially interesting card but Fedor fights tonight.

Heavyweight Grand Prix quarterfinal bout: Fedor Emelianenko vs. Antonio Silva
Heavyweight Grand Prix quarterfinal bout: Andrei Arlovski vs. Sergei Kharitonov
Heavyweight Grand Prix reserve bout: Shane Del Rosario vs. Lavar Johnson
Heavyweight Grand Prix reserve bout: Chad Griggs vs. Gianpiero Villante
Heavyweight Grand Prix reserve bout: Valentijn Overeem vs. Ray Sefo

OptimoPeach · « **Reply #690 on:** February 12, 2011, 04:36:39 PM »

WTF Canada. That is crazy

And yeah, I didn't even know about this Strikeforce card until a week ago lol

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #691 on:** February 12, 2011, 11:55:47 PM »

Fedor just got beat again. Fight stopped before the 3rd round because of fucked up eye on Fedor. Silva ground and pounded him and dominated the second round and fucked up his eye.

OptimoPeach · « **Reply #692 on:** February 13, 2011, 12:02:43 AM »

:'( Talking about retiring

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #693 on:** February 13, 2011, 12:08:22 AM »

I have very mixed feelings about Fedor. Not about his legacy which is more than secure. But about how he handled the whole UFC thing. Not that I'm saying he had to sign. He didn't. I would have respected it more if his management had just been more open about things.

But his legacy is secure. And honestly at this point, its becoming clear he wouldn't have dominated the UFC like some people thought. I mean he can continue fighting those guys in strikeforce which I have a feeling he will but it certainly doesn't have the same mythical drawing element to it that it once did.

edit: I didn't see the interview. I missed the interview talk but I guess some people are saying that he retired?

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #694 on:** February 13, 2011, 12:31:41 AM »

pilonv1 · « **Reply #695 on:** February 13, 2011, 05:47:45 AM »

ahahahahahahahahah

also

chronovore · « **Reply #696 on:** February 13, 2011, 10:31:24 AM »

Andrei neeeds to retiiiire.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #697 on:** February 13, 2011, 05:18:32 PM »

DANA

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #698 on:** March 12, 2011, 06:51:30 PM »

I said wow

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Strikeforce is no longer the UFC’s biggest competitor.

In a video interview with Ariel Helwani posted to MMAFighting.com on Saturday morning, UFC President Dana White announced that Zuffa has purchased the San Jose, Calif.-based fight promotion.

“It's literally official right now. We literally just purchased Strikeforce,” said White. “I don't want to disclose any of the details on how the deal was done, but the reality is that we now own Strikeforce.”

White explained the reasons behind the purchase in the interview, stating that expanding Zuffa's talent pool was a necessary step to take as the promotion ventures into more international endeavors.

“As we go out and [continue to expand], we need more fights. Let's face facts. Strikeforce is a brand that fans have come to like and [the fans] enjoy the fights that they're putting on. So it made sense to us,” said White. “Our job is to put on the big fights that fans want to see, and as we continue to travel [abroad], we have to put on the right fights in these other countries.”

While White would not disclose the exact length of the negotiation period, the UFC boss did confirm that the buyout “happened quickly,” when asked if the talks lasted less than six months.

White then revealed that while Strikeforce is now the property of Zuffa, Scott Coker's promotion would not be dissolved. Rather, Strikeforce will continue to operate independently under the supervision of its new parent company.

“Strikeforce is going to continue to run -- business as usual. There are contracts in place, and we honor contracts. These guys pull good ratings on Showtime, and all of those contracts are going to be honored. These guys are going to remain Strikeforce fighters.”

White then elaborated on that concept, asserting that Coker would continue in his role as Strikeforce head, maintaining the promotion's operations and managing the talent. According to White, this means that Coker will have license to re-sign fighters at his discretion, including talents with whom White takes issue, such as Paul Daley and Josh Barnett.

“We've signed a deal with Scott Coker. He's staying on. You've seen me battle with guys over the years, but I’ve never had a bad thing to say about Scott Coker. I’ve known Scott since the K-1 days. Scott is a good guy.”

http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/Zuffa-Purchases-Strikeforce-30800

OptimoPeach · « **Reply #699 on:** March 12, 2011, 07:32:40 PM »

O m g

I expect them to at least poach some of the prospects if not just dissolve them anyway in the nearish future

chronovore · « **Reply #700 on:** March 12, 2011, 08:48:22 PM »

Holy shit.

So... EA Sports MMA 2 will have EXCLUSIVELY imaginary fight franchises?

pilonv1 · « **Reply #701 on:** March 12, 2011, 09:47:21 PM »

EA MMA was dead 3 months ago, now Dana is skull fucking it in front of EA.

I'm guessing they'll be run separately like WEC was until some of the stupider contracts & the showtime deal expires then they'll be merged.

Boogie · « **Reply #702 on:** March 14, 2011, 09:39:14 PM »

From Dave Meltzer via Fightlinker:

http://www.fightlinker.com/how-strikeforce-ended-up-for-sale

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Elsewhere, Wrestling Observer writer Dave Meltzer is reporting that the financial relationship between Strikeforce and M-1 Global proved so burdensome to the former that they were forced to seek outside funding, allowing potential buyers in.

That's right. From that perspective, Fedor killed yet another MMA promotion.

Pride
Bodog
Affliction
Strikeforce

M-1 Global!

edit: or....MAYBE....

M-1 Global has been working for Dana all along! They've been his long-term Trojan Horse to bring down competing promotions from within! Damn, Dana is one devious motherfucker!

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #703 on:** March 19, 2011, 11:00:38 AM »

Intriguing title fight tonight.

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Official fight card

Preliminary card
Catchweight (195 lb) bout: Nick Catone vs. Constantinos Philippou
Featherweight bout: Erik Koch vs. Raphael Assunção
Bantamweight bout: Joseph Benavidez vs. Ian Loveland

Preliminary card (Facebook)
Lightweight bout: Kurt Pellegrino vs. Gleison Tibau
Welterweight bout: Ricardo Almeida vs. Mike Pyle

Preliminary card (Spike TV)
Lightweight bout: Edson Barboza vs. Anthony Njokuani
Light Heavyweight bout: Eliot Marshall vs. Luiz Cane

Main card
Heavyweight bout: Brendan Schaub vs. Mirko Filipović
Middleweight bout: Nate Marquardt vs. Dan Miller
Lightweight bout: Jim Miller vs. Kamal Shalorus
Bantamweight bout: Urijah Faber vs. Eddie Wineland
Light Heavyweight Championship bout: Maurício Rua (c) vs. Jon Jones

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #704 on:** March 19, 2011, 01:05:54 PM »

Yeah, huge fight. I might miss it, and if I do, I will ignore forums and twitter until I download and watch it.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #705 on:** March 19, 2011, 07:22:45 PM »

I'm more interested in seeing Faber than the title fight.

OptimoPeach · « **Reply #706 on:** March 19, 2011, 08:46:14 PM »

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=424867

WTF

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #707 on:** March 19, 2011, 09:46:58 PM »

Quote from: pilonv1 on March 19, 2011, 07:22:45 PM

I'm more interested in seeing Faber than the title fight.

Good Lord why?

pilonv1 · « **Reply #708 on:** March 19, 2011, 10:14:51 PM »

Faber is dreamy

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #709 on:** March 19, 2011, 10:25:39 PM »

Why the fuck are we forced to watch these cro-crop fights. Is he desperately in need of money or something? Just fucking retire already.

Edit: oh lord. Schaub just got a point deducted. Which means cro-cop may win and I'll have to see him fight again. :'(

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #710 on:** March 19, 2011, 10:35:48 PM »

Sad to say but thank you. Fucking retire already.

chronovore · « **Reply #711 on:** March 20, 2011, 12:06:24 AM »

He should be running for office in Croatia by now. How many fights left on his UFC contract?

BTW, what was the point deduction for? I didn't see it in the live blogging of the fight.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #712 on:** March 20, 2011, 12:08:04 AM »

Quote from: chronovore on March 20, 2011, 12:06:24 AM

He should be running for office in Croatia by now. How many fights left on his UFC contract?

BTW, what was the point deduction for? I didn't see it in the live blogging of the fight.

I assume it was for a punch to the back of the head. Schaub was doing that a lot.

chronovore · « **Reply #713 on:** March 20, 2011, 12:25:09 AM »

Sounds like the KO punch was behind the ear, so it is apparently a strategy which works well for him.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #714 on:** March 20, 2011, 12:29:38 AM »

Shogun already looks gassed and its the first round.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #715 on:** March 20, 2011, 12:33:25 AM »

Jones is outclassing shogun big time.

OptimoPeach · « **Reply #716 on:** March 20, 2011, 12:39:26 AM »

Raped. Shogun looked kinda fat lol. I didn't think he would be coming back after a third knee surgery

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #717 on:** March 20, 2011, 12:40:13 AM »

Jones by rape!

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #718 on:** March 20, 2011, 12:41:41 AM »

lol at the nuthuggers in that gaf thread who thought shogun was gonna own jones.

chronovore · « **Reply #719 on:** March 20, 2011, 12:47:40 AM »

Holy schnikies, what a Cinderella story for Jones. I bet he's going to hold onto it for awhile. He's sharp.

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Author Topic: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread (Read 194699 times)